Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteRef to Garuda Purana - you'll get the gayatri for the planets in padma - different from the vedic ones suggested also in Padma + BPHS and the usual ones suggested. Herbs included in the yajna and subsequent sprinkle on the head (after normal bath @ 4:30/brahma muhurta), you can get from Guruji, I'm sure.A12/UL versus a planet in the 12th house 1. UL is lord of 12th - suggest fasting2. a Planet in 12th - suggest donation but this I reckon is one rina besides the planets that lord the other du-sthana, the 6th - your own body cleansing (indriyas) and 8th - family's debts. Since the 12th indicates an institution, I would certainly not equate this as our debt with the rest of the world. On your next point, you are not clear about what you would like to express. Which graha if associated with lagna? According to my Guru, the Sudarsana Kavaca covers all 360 degrees of the zodiac and basically lends its protective shield to the blessed wearer, so why do we associate a kavaca with only the lagna?If one has had the blessings of wearing a kavaca, it is because they have had that kavaca in a previous life - ref. Mahabharata (story of Sudarshan, striped of title and wealth and the subsequent marriage to the princess; Krishna was born with a kavaca, the others recollect the kavaca they were given from a previous life).Talking about which, on the Chapters in BPHS regarding malefics in 12th, it would make better sense if one was to read it in conjunction with two other puranani (puranas) that states the living conditions of the dead - elevated or the types of hell. This requires another chart, another chapter.[Contrary to this, if a graha is associated with Lagna then the native is not advised to give up or fast on such a day as the person is giving away the kavacha of their body.]I have the 12th lord sitting on my ascendant. You cannot give me this broad statement, since I have offered ekadashi fasts for over close to 30 years and there are tithis that fall on a Tuesday and all, I mean all spiritualists say that they see a lion (you know why).This PVR Narasimha chart gives me a headache and confirmed in BBC news clippings about his wanton ways and imprisonment - no complete success and laughing all the way to the Big House/Big Seat. It's in the  BBC archives. What you don't tell me is WHEN he wore that tantric infused "gem" :|love,SweeOn 14 Dec 2008, at 21:39, Visti Larsen wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Thanks for the references to Garuda Purana, I was looking through it recently reg. the same.My point reg. Upapada was not with reference to marriage instead I was referring to the A12's function as Vyayapada, i.e. that which causes loss, and therefore we fast (giving) to overcome the Rina/debts that we have to the world. Based on this Guruji has written in COVA that fasting or giving up the indications of the graha lording or placed in the twelfth house is advised to overcome these debts.Contrary to this, if a graha is associated with Lagna then the native is not advised to give up or fast on such a day as the person is giving away the kavacha of their body. Similarly donating gemstones of the Lagna was strictly advised against by Guruji as this amounts to the same, i.e. giving up the Lagna's Kavacha.Again, to prove that its not all cases where an afflicted graha should be donated in the form of a gemstone, PV Narasimha Rao (ex-president) has Mars joined Sun and aspected by Rahu in his chart, which amounts to a curse of brother from past life (despite the worst curse being that of an uncle indicated by Mercury). Yet, in his case he was not advised against the wearing of a Coral but was encouraged to do so. That advise is indeed in line with Gurujis teachings as per the Atri Classes on the same.I hope this clarifies my query and thoughts reg. the same.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti Swee Chan skrev:Jaya JagannathaDear Visti,NamasteOn Gems:UL - Venus + Jupiter are the karakas. The GP seems to concentrate more on the misery of women who wear a diamond. It does seem that for UL problems, the various coloured diamonds that pertain to the tutelary deities can be donated. As rare as eternal marriages come - like Visnu-Laksmi, Siva-Parvati, Raama-Sita, there are many vratas for both sexes. Aditi offered her penances and made herself so pure that her request for Visnu to take birth through her womb was granted. (He took birth as Vamana).The other hint that is vital for me is that the bone shards (from bala asura) that fell off the vajra became hexagonal gems - there are many varieties -in this category. But the main thing is that the six main portions of his body fell into various mountains (denotes the various supporting bones in our body), and the body part that fell on the diamond mines are mainly trigonal (some especially, blue sapphires) have the same trigonal crystallisation.On Metals:It is especially good to note that those who are stricken with any of the planets at birth or transits, should wear (on their bodies) the metals that pertain to them. The person should also bath and throw in the fire, the pieces of the metals/sandalwood representative of the planet that causes the malignant effect.The guardianship of the deity including their subordinates (interesting to note for Ketu, the mantra falls under Indra/Brhaspati (same plenary portions)Though mantras for some of the planets have a variation from those as suggested for the gems. - Ref GPGems are placed in the water pot. We did this for a certain puja (over here) and the pujari took off with the 5 gems, ruby, sapphire, yellow sapphire, diamond and orange garnet - well and good as that is the intention )love,Sweep/s back on SundayOn 11 Dec 2008, at 16:02, Visti Larsen wrote:हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Swee, Namaskar.Is the gemstone donation advised when it is associated with the 12th house/upapada or in other scenarios?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen----------www: http://srigaruda.com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Swee Chan skrev:Jaya JagannathaDear Chandan,NamasteMay I? The gayatri suggested by Parasara and in Padma P is to acknowledge the supreme energy that is causing the malfeasance. It does not say that by offering the gayatri, it nullifies the malfeasance of the planet in order that you can wear the gemstone.In times of strife caused by that planet, the Padma P suggests you donate that gemstone including other items besides Anusthan and homa which are all inclusive of quelling the planet's negativity towards the person.Crystal clear ;-))?love,SweeOn 11 Dec 2008, at 10:43, chandan486 wrote:> ||Aum namah shivaya||>> Dear Rafal,> Namaste.>> So , this means that imbibing a gem with gayatri from Rig Veda makes> it harmless ?? (physically atleast !)>> regards,> chandan s sabarwal.>> --- In , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme> wrote:>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*>> Dear Maja, Namaskar>>>> 2.>>>> Somanatha drekkana is for ojas, health and sexuality, if youll> perscribe>> gem of 2L you can destroy the marriage.>>>> First I see the favourable gems based on Rasi THEN I go to> divisions and>> if there are problems I leave the choice for the client and advise> the>> procedure of imbimbing the gem with gayatri from Rgveda.>>>> Regards,>> Rafal Gendarz>> ----------------------------->> http://rohinaa.com>> rafal>>>>> Maja S(trbac pisze:>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah>>>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaste>>>>>> OK... can you please finish that last sentence with:>>>>>> 1) ...as favorable choice of planets>>> 2) ...to avoid these planets>>>>>> Whichever one is correct (I suppose "2").>>>>>> If these bhavas are empty, then can we ignore Somanath Drekana?>>>>>> Warm Regards,>>> Maja Strbac>>>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat>>>>>>>>> --- On *Wed, 12/10/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme/* wrote:>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on> divisonal>>> charts ?>>> To: >>> Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 2:21 AM>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*>>> Dear Maja , Namaskar>>>>>> I cant comment its wrong but its new to me. Usually we see> planets>>> in 2,6,8.>>>>>> Regards,>>> Rafal Gendarz>>> ------------ --------- -------->>> http://rohinaa. com>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maja S(trbac pisze:>>>> Om Gurave Namah>>>>>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaste>>>>>>>> My logic was that Graha corresponding to chosen Gemstone> should>>>> not be inimical towards LL in Somanath Drekana, and that it>>>> should not be Graha lording 2nd bhava in Somanatha Drekana.> (I>>>> will survive if you say "your logic is bad" I give you a> green>>>> light to use this phrase No hard feelings)>>>>>>>> Warm Regards,>>>> Maja Strbac>>>>>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On *Wed, 12/10/08, Maja S(trbac /<majastrbacastro@>>>> >/* wrote:>>>>>>>> Maja S(trbac <majastrbacastro@ >>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on>>>> divisonal charts ?>>>> >>>> Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 1:00 AM>>>>>>>> Om Gurave Namah>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Rafal, Namaste>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (What would I do without you guys?)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are right. I just checked again email sent by Branka>>>> Larsen (on Serbian list, no point in giving you a link I>>>> suppose where she was mentioning Somanath Drekana and>>>> true, she never mentioned 2nd bhava when choosing a> Gemstone.>>>> I think I only mixed up few points I have learned about> this>>>> divisional chart separately from Gemstones... this is>>>> funny... until few minutes ago I could swear that I read> it>>>> in that email.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you in a mood for a few replies?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Warm Regards,>>>>>>>> Maja Strbac>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat>>>>>>>> --- On *Tue, 12/9/08, Rafal Gendarz /<starsuponme@> wp.pl>/*>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ wp.pl>>>>> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone> on>>>> divisonal charts ?>>>> >>>> Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 11:46 AM>>>>>>>> *om namo bhagavate narasimhaya*>>>> Dear Maja, Namaskar>>>>>>>> I was taught about bhavas in Somanath drekkana not> to see>>>> sambandha of 2L - where does it come from please?>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,>>>> Rafal Gendarz>>>> ------------ --------- -------->>>> http://rohinaa. com>>>> rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com>>>>>>>>>>>> Maja S(trbac pisze:>>>>> Om Gurave Namah>>>>>>>>>> Dear Chandan, Namaste>>>>>>>>>> As long as Graha corresponding to chosen Gemstone> is not>>>>> inimical towards Somanath Drekana Lagna lord, it is>>>>> quite OK. That was for divisional charts. (BTW be>>>>> careful and avoid lord of 2nd bhava in this> divisional>>>>> chart)>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Arudhas... that is Rasi chart also, where we> check>>>>> all Dosas usually >>>>>>>>>> So, you want to wear Gemstone for AK under curse>>>>> involved in Pravraja Yoga in 7th bhava. That is> brave...>>>>> Until August next year? OK... (Oh... and it is in> MKS>>>>> from AL )>>>>>>>>>> Man, but why are you choosing remedies for your own> chart?>>>>>>>>>> Regards,>>>>> Maja Strbac>>>>>>>>>> Hari Om Tat Sat>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- On *Tue, 12/9/08, Chandan Ssabarwal>>>>> /<wavelogix (AT) gmail (DOT) com>/* wrote:>>>>>>>>>> Chandan Ssabarwal <wavelogix (AT) gmail (DOT) com>>>>>> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing> gemstone on>>>>> divisonal charts ?>>>>> >>>>> Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:16 AM>>>>>>>>>> ||Aum namo bhagwate narasimhaya| |>>>>>>>>>> hey maja ,>>>>>>>>>> I was just trying to learn new ways , and> possibly>>>>> see if @ all gemstones are possible even when> rasi>>>>> and d-10 lagna's are inmical to each other !>>>>>>>>>> hwoever , i realized last night the IMPORTANCE> of>>>>> using gemstones from Arudha Lagna , as it is> what>>>>> manifests !>>>>>>>>>> i still remember , about you recommendation to>>>>> remove the yellow sapphire im wearing , and yes> i>>>>> will .. but i forgot to tell you , right now> running>>>>> Rahu AD , so maybe just until then >>>>>>>>>> also i have realized . gemstones are nt> everything ...>>>>>>>>>> mantras done with discipline and dedication are> also>>>>> very superior !>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> humble regards,>>>>> chandan s sabarwal.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------> -------------------->>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com>>>>>'>http://www.avg. com>>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1839 -> Release 2008-12-09 09:59>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------> ----------->>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com>>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release> 2008-12-09 16:53>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------> ------>>>>>>>>> >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com>>> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.16/1840 - Release Date:> 2008-12-09 16:53>>>>>>>>>>>> --->> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practice charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 Dear Swee Thanks a lot for that explanation. Really appreciate it. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Sun, 14/12/08, Swee Chan <swee wrote: Swee Chan <sweeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Sunday, 14 December, 2008, 8:14 PM Jaya Jagannatha Dear Rajarshi, Namaste If a planet regardless if it is natural benefic or not, if it is going to give negative effects according to the conditions mentioned: 1. Follow the suggested vedic mantras as in BPHS (Padma also suggests the same mantras). You asked about Sani - sannodevi... from RV 2. Do homa of that planet and offer iron into the fire. (according to Yajnavalkya in GP) 3. Bathe with the same to include herbs pertaining to the planet (ask your pujari) 4. Donate the gem + other items. WHEN to wear it when Saturn is a "functional" benefic in your chart: 1. Assess from rasi and the other nine = total 10 divisionals 2. If well placed; a natural malefic if placed in trines = well placed and gets vaiseshikamsa and is a yogada = bounty If when during Saturn's in your chart e.g., when it traverses on your ascendant, 8th or 10th house, propitiate regardless if he has provided for you in the recent past. Just remember Saturn's strength is in the last 3rd portion, so if it is traversing in negative places including the 12th house (soon for Kanya lagna), the time to pay attention is when it is crossing over from Simha to Kanya. love, Swee On 12 Dec 2008, at 15:39, rajarshi nandy wrote: Dear Maja and Swee I am getting a little confused with things.. can you please clarify this.. if a planet is bad and malefic.. as remedy we should do the following 1) Do pujas for the deity of the planet, like Shani Narayan? 2) Do homas and offer the metal ruled by the planet in the fire? Like mars - red chandan? 3) Now what should be done with gem, wear it or donate it? Thanks and appreciate your clarifications. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Fri, 12/12/08, Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Friday, 12 December, 2008, 4:35 PM Om Gurave Namah Dear Chandan, Namaste (Me jumping in again... Point of this whole thread is that choice of a gemstone should start with Rasi chart, not with divisional chart. What is Sukra in your Rasi chart? Check lordships, placement and yogas for this Graha in Rasi chart. How does it seem? If you get to "Great!" answer (and this is not the answer you will get if you ask me) only then jump to D10 where it is favorable. Why don't you write your birth data here on the list? Partial info about your chart can not be enough for making a choice which Gem you should wear. P.S. So far the only Graha in your Rasi chart which I would advice you to strengthen it with Gem is Chandra. (Especially because Mangal placed in 9th bhava) I would love to check this choice with Gurus included in this thread if you decide to post your birth data. Yet some divisional charts make this choice as less favorable. Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Fri, 12/12/08, Chandan Ssabarwal <wavelogix (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Chandan Ssabarwal <wavelogix (AT) gmail (DOT) com>[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Friday, December 12, 2008, 2:34 AM ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. so this means that i could possibly wear a gemstone which is yogakaraka for my d-10 and maraka for my Rasi chart , but merely by infusing it with the relevaent gayatri from the rig deva , coupled with the best muhurta , gives no physical side effects @ all .... after infusing it with the relevant gayatri , would still the placement from AL be need to considered ? or , the gem stone just becomes completely harmless.... ? humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Dear Guruji,How we can be sure that what He has attained was due to Coral? He still has few rajayogas..3L in Tenth is kind of duryoga and as was said we cant talk about exchanging results due to yuti not parivartana. Mars Mahadasa could be fine due to exchanging results but for gems only parivartana was advised. Mangal in Gemini is quite weak (similar to Cancer) and in 7H from AL should block His rise - again rajabhanga. So maybe He could attain more by not wearing it?RegardsRafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. -------------------Podziel siê op³atkiem na ¦wiêta Bo¿ego Narodzenia http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://podzielsieoplatkiem.pl&sid=582 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. He had to wear the coral to strengthen his Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga. Had he not then his time as Prime Minister during Mars Mahadasa would itself be in jeopardy, and he would have difficulty in lasting the tenure. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji, How we can be sure that what He has attained was due to Coral? He still has few rajayogas..3L in Tenth is kind of duryoga and as was said we cant talk about exchanging results due to yuti not parivartana. Mars Mahadasa could be fine due to exchanging results but for gems only parivartana was advised. Mangal in Gemini is quite weak (similar to Cancer) and in 7H from AL should block His rise - again rajabhanga. So maybe He could attain more by not wearing it? Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zosta³y zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. ------------------- Podziel siê op³atkiem na ¦wiêta Bo¿ego Narodzenia http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://podzielsieoplatkiem.pl & sid=582 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar How enemy graha can strengthed the planet? Why Mangal dasa should give bad? Mangal should give normally effect of Simhaansa-Budha so excellent dasa. Still I dont get why we advise the gem of duryoga-graha? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. He had to wear the coral to strengthen his Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga. Had he not then his time as Prime Minister during Mars Mahadasa would itself be in jeopardy, and he would have difficulty in lasting the tenure. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji, How we can be sure that what He has attained was due to Coral? He still has few rajayogas..3L in Tenth is kind of duryoga and as was said we cant talk about exchanging results due to yuti not parivartana. Mars Mahadasa could be fine due to exchanging results but for gems only parivartana was advised. Mangal in Gemini is quite weak (similar to Cancer) and in 7H from AL should block His rise - again rajabhanga. So maybe He could attain more by not wearing it? Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zostały zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. ------------------- Podziel się opłatkiem na Święta Bożego Narodzenia http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://podzielsieoplatkiem.pl & sid=582 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release 2008-12-14 12:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti and Rafal, Namaste I am really trying to follow, but... So at the end, this Budh and Mangal, do they give effects of one another due to Yuti or not? Or there is a catch with Varachakra, Kalachakra or Digchakra waiting behind the corner? Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: Rafal Gendarz <starsuponmeRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 5:21 AM om namo bhagavate narasimhayaDear Guruji, NamaskarHow enemy graha can strengthed the planet? Why Mangal dasa should give bad? Mangal should give normally effect of Simhaansa-Budha so excellent dasa. Still I dont get why we advise the gem of duryoga-graha?Regards,Rafal Gendarz ------------ --------- --------Consultations and Pages:http://rohinaa. com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comVisti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rafal, Namaskar.He had to wear the coral to strengthen his Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga. Had he not then his time as Prime Minister during Mars Mahadasa would itself be in jeopardy, and he would have difficulty in lasting the tenure.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji,How we can be sure that what He has attained was due to Coral? He still has few rajayogas..3L in Tenth is kind of duryoga and as was said we cant talk about exchanging results due to yuti not parivartana. Mars Mahadasa could be fine due to exchanging results but for gems only parivartana was advised. Mangal in Gemini is quite weak (similar to Cancer) and in 7H from AL should block His rise - again rajabhanga. So maybe He could attain more by not wearing it?RegardsRafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zostaÅ‚y zablokowane. हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure?Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- ----Podziel siÄ™ opÅ‚atkiem na ÅšwiÄ™ta Bożego Narodzenia http://klik. wp.pl/?adr= http://podzielsi eoplatkiem. pl & sid=582 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release 2008-12-14 12:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. Just as Dasas exchange effects of conjoined Grahas so do gemstones. Does that clarify? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Rafal Gendarz skrev: om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji, Namaskar How enemy graha can strengthed the planet? Why Mangal dasa should give bad? Mangal should give normally effect of Simhaansa-Budha so excellent dasa. Still I dont get why we advise the gem of duryoga-graha? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rafal, Namaskar. He had to wear the coral to strengthen his Bhadra Mahapurusha Yoga. Had he not then his time as Prime Minister during Mars Mahadasa would itself be in jeopardy, and he would have difficulty in lasting the tenure. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Rafal G skrev: Dear Guruji, How we can be sure that what He has attained was due to Coral? He still has few rajayogas..3L in Tenth is kind of duryoga and as was said we cant talk about exchanging results due to yuti not parivartana. Mars Mahadasa could be fine due to exchanging results but for gems only parivartana was advised. Mangal in Gemini is quite weak (similar to Cancer) and in 7H from AL should block His rise - again rajabhanga. So maybe He could attain more by not wearing it? Regards Rafal Gendarz Elementy potencjalnie niebezpieczne zostały zablokowane. हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a remedial measure? Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear swee and visti, namaste ! swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses and not simply conj.... conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have worn and not the red coral ... also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought it up !! humbly yours, chandan s sabarwal. ------------------- Podziel się opłatkiem na Święta Bożego Narodzenia http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http://podzielsieoplatkiem.pl & sid=582 Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.18/1848 - Release 2008-12-14 12:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rā meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarāga (ruby), pushparāga (topaz), indranīla (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidūrya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. Pushparāga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparāga can be regarded as equal to the indranīla (sapphire) or padmarāga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranīla (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparāga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranīla the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. Ratnakāraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and Rāhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst Rāhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kāraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kāma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparāga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun Padmarāga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter Pushparāga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn Indranīla Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu Vaidūrya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kāma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kāma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. Vārachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nīcha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the Somanātha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a māraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ---------- > www: http://srigaruda.com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste WOW! As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance". Thank you so much for shearing it with us! Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > dear swee and visti,> > namaste !> > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj....> > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa !> > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald.> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !!> > > > humbly yours,> > chandan s sabarwal.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste I was wondering about this: Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Can you please explain this "reversal"? Because I can catch up with Rahu/Guru and Sani/Surya pairs if we are using opposite directions for Grahas in Digchakra, but I can not fit remaining pair Chandra/Mangal in any way to this same logic. What is the principle that we are using here in first place? Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > dear swee and visti,> > namaste !> > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj....> > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa !> > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald.> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !!> > > > humbly yours,> > chandan s sabarwal.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Maja, Namaskar. Again Gunachakra. Sun, Moon and Jupiter are sattvic hence their gemstones are used to establish sattva in the ninth house. Remedy-> Sun (padmaraga) Moon (mukta) Jupiter (pushparaga) Malefic in ninth-> Saturn Mars Rahu (or Ketu) The given table shows the link. With Ketu in ninth we can however settle with wearing a Gold ring on the right hand ring finger. In all cases the remedy graha is worn on the right hand ring finger. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti Maja Å trbac skrev: Om Gurave Namah  Dear Visti Ji, Namaste  I was wondering about this:  Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Can you please explain this "reversal"? Because I can catch up with Rahu/Guru and Sani/Surya pairs if we are using opposite directions for Grahas in Digchakra, but I can not fit remaining pair Chandra/Mangal in any way to this same logic.  What is the principle that we are using here in first place?  Warm Regards, Maja Strbac  Hari Om Tat Sat  --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:  Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl  Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu  5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu  8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Dear Visti Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead of diamond? If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. 23rd march 1977 12:20 pm calcutta mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 16/12/08, Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro wrote: Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastroRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste WOW! As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance". Thank you so much for shearing it with us! Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > dear swee and visti,> > namaste !> > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj....> > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa !> > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald.> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !!> > > > humbly yours,> > chandan s sabarwal.> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste Thank you very much for clarifying this. Regards, Maja Strbac --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 10:44 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Maja, Namaskar.Again Gunachakra. Sun, Moon and Jupiter are sattvic hence their gemstones are used to establish sattva in the ninth house. Remedy-> Sun (padmaraga) Moon (mukta) Jupiter (pushparaga) Malefic in ninth-> Saturn Mars Rahu (or Ketu)The given table shows the link. With Ketu in ninth we can however settle with wearing a Gold ring on the right hand ring finger. In all cases the remedy graha is worn on the right hand ring finger.Hope this clarifies.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Maja Å trbac skrev: Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste I was wondering about this: Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Can you please explain this "reversal"? Because I can catch up with Rahu/Guru and Sani/Surya pairs if we are using opposite directions for Grahas in Digchakra, but I can not fit remaining pair Chandra/Mangal in any way to this same logic. What is the principle that we are using here in first place? Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > dear swee and visti,> > namaste !> > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj....> > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa !> > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald.> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !!> > > > humbly yours,> > chandan s sabarwal.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise then he would not have cancer. Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. Still the advise is the same. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti  Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail.  I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead of diamond?  If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great..  23rd march 1977 12:20 pm calcutta mithun lagna, mesh rasi..  -Regards  Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro > wrote: Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM Om Gurave Namah  Dear Visti Ji, Namaste  WOW!  As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance".  Thank you so much for shearing it with us!  Warm Regards, Maja Strbac  Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl  Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu  5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu  8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 om namo bhagavate narasimhaya Dear Guruji , Namaskar Yes. Lets say Meena Lagna Shani yuti Mangal - I should perscribe Neelam to give effect of bhagyesh Mangal? Regards, Rafal Gendarz ----------------------------- Consultations and Pages: http://rohinaa.com rafal Visti Larsen pisze: हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar. The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise then he would not have cancer. Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu. Still the advise is the same. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead of diamond? If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. 23rd march 1977 12:20 pm calcutta mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro > wrote: Maja Štrbac <majastrbacastro > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste WOW! As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance". Thank you so much for shearing it with us! Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृष्ण Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rā meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarāga (ruby), pushparāga (topaz), indranīla (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidūrya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. Pushparāga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparāga can be regarded as equal to the indranīla (sapphire) or padmarāga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranīla (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparāga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranīla the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. Ratnakāraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and Rāhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst Rāhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kāraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kāma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparāga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun Padmarāga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter Pushparāga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn Indranīla Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu Vaidūrya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kāma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kāma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. Vārachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nīcha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the Somanātha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a māraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dear Visti Thank you for the reply. Actually my confusion was that when two planets go into parivartan do they exchange ONLY they functional and positional characteristic in a chart or also their natrual characteristic. Like sun ruling father and moon ruling mother etc.. I have adviced the person to keep chanting mahamrityunjaya mantra, if that helps him.. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Wed, 17/12/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 1:40 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Rajarshi, Namaskar.The final effect is the same, as had the parivartana done otherwise then he would not have cancer.Yet, i don't believe the Cancer was solely caused by Jupiter in this case as we see Rahu involved in a curse of mother from past life and involving the sixth lord (roga) Ketu.Still the advise is the same.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com rajarshi nandy skrev: Dear Visti Thank you for sharing that information. Really wonderful mail. I was seeing a chart of a person who has been detected with liver cancer and doctors have given him six months time to live. In his chart jup is in exchance with venus. Should he wear a pokhraj instead of diamond? If you could kindly take a look and advice it woiuld be great.. 23rd march 1977 12:20 pm calcutta mithun lagna, mesh rasi.. -Regards Rajarshi The upsurge (of consciousness) is Bhairava - Shiva Sutra--- On Tue, 16/12/08, Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ > wrote: Maja Å trbac <majastrbacastro@ >Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 8:47 PM Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste WOW! As far as I am concerned, your email bellow is a "Marry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance". Thank you so much for shearing it with us! Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > dear swee and visti,> > namaste !> > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj....> > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa !> > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald.> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !!> > > > humbly yours,> > chandan s sabarwal.> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 ||Om namah Shivayah|| Pranam Vistiji Fantsatic rocking email!!! I could not understand some parts. If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). How do we apply this in reading? I mean after fidning which of the 3 ayanas are being exchanged how to understand which is the exact effect of the graha in the persons life. For example say for vrischik lagna person jupter and rahu in 10th house, So jup gives effects of rahu and say jup is in mithun navamsa. So jup gives effect of kama (mithun), artha (vrishab) and moksha (cancer) ayans of rahu. What does it mean in reality in application.. Also as per the vara chakra principles, any planet in 10,1 or 5th house will eclipse the effects of grahas in 3rd from it in varachakra. Does this work all throughout a persons life from birth, OR only during the dasa of the planet in the simhamsa house? As was given in the example for vara chakra, if sun was in 7th house and rahu in 10th and native was facing probelms in business/married life, would he still be advised to wear ruby? I mean in the particular example sun was in his own house so maleficience was less.. -Best Wishes Aparajita --- On Tue, 16/12/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Date: Tuesday, 16 December, 2008, 3:09 PM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£Dear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference):The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely.Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives.There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight.Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen------------ --------- --------- --------- ----www: http://srigaruda. com@: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comchandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya||dear visti,namaste.Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !!however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ?and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ?humble regards,Chandan S sabarwal., Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> ??? ??? ?????> Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar.> PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure?> Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen> ------------ --------- --------- --------- ----> www: http://srigaruda. com> @: visti > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev:> > ||aum namah shivaya||> > > > dear swee and visti,> > namaste !> > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million .> > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj....> > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa !> > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ...> > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald.> > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !!> > > > humbly yours,> > chandan s sabarwal.> >> Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti , namaste ... First of all , thanks a lot for sharing all the invalueable info. but after reading this , a simple question again pops up!! 1.If a person has mesha lagna and rahu is placed in 9th house , normally a Yellow sapphire would be advised , as you mentioned in the article .. but what if jupiter is conj sat ? then also would a yellow sapphire be advised ? or based on conj , a blue sapphire would now be choice ? and no unlock rahu in 9th house , a different gemstone based on varachakra would be used ? pls help clear thus understanding , humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Jai maaRespected Visti jipranamGuru ji in your writup you said if the parivartana between 6th & 9th lord happens then the gem of 6th lord will be helpful. in my chart i have 2 parivartana, 1. lagnesh Bu with 11th lord Ma (also 6th lord)2. 9th lord Sa with 2nd Lord Ch.this means if i want to improve my health, then i have to wear Moonga & for luck i have to wear Moti.my dob is 23 apr 1976, 09:35 am Ludhiana (Punjab) india.thanks--- On Wed, 17/12/08, Visti Larsen <visti wrote:Visti Larsen <vistiRe: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ?To: Date: Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 12:14 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Maja, Namaskar. Again Gunachakra. Sun, Moon and Jupiter are sattvic hence their gemstones are used to establish sattva in the ninth house. Remedy-> Sun (padmaraga) Moon (mukta) Jupiter (pushparaga) Malefic in ninth-> Saturn Mars Rahu (or Ketu) The given table shows the link. With Ketu in ninth we can however settle with wearing a Gold ring on the right hand ring finger. In all cases the remedy graha is worn on the right hand ring finger. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Maja Å trbac skrev: Om Gurave Namah Dear Visti Ji, Namaste I was wondering about this: Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Can you please explain this "reversal"? Because I can catch up with Rahu/Guru and Sani/Surya pairs if we are using opposite directions for Grahas in Digchakra, but I can not fit remaining pair Chandra/Mangal in any way to this same logic. What is the principle that we are using here in first place? Warm Regards, Maja Strbac Hari Om Tat Sat --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu 5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu 8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Get your preferred Email name! 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Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Dear Visti, Namaskar. A fantastic mail. For the first time I am learning about Gunachakra. If I remember correctly, in of your mails I read that performing Jivanyasa on a gem stone - it's bad side effect can be removed. Can you throw more light on this? Regards Jk On Behalf Of Visti LarsenTuesday, December 16, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? हरे राम कृष्णDear Chandan, Namaskar.Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share.I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. after all the articles you mentioned about gemstones , would it also be required to finally check the graha's placement from AL ? consdiering the graha meets all the other requirements ? Or if all the other requirements are met , placement from AL can be ignored ? humble regards, chandan s sabarwal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Manoj, Namaskar. Your assesment is correct. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ---------- www: http://srigaruda.com @: visti manoj sharma skrev: Jai maa Respected Visti ji pranam Guru ji in your writup you said if the parivartana between 6th & 9th lord happens then the gem of 6th lord will be helpful. in my chart i have 2 parivartana, 1. lagnesh Bu with 11th lord Ma (also 6th lord) 2. 9th lord Sa with 2nd Lord Ch. this means if i want to improve my health, then i have to wear Moonga & for luck i have to wear Moti. my dob is 23 apr 1976,   09:35 am Ludhiana (Punjab) india. thanks --- On Wed, 17/12/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Wednesday, 17 December, 2008, 12:14 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Maja, Namaskar. Again Gunachakra. Sun, Moon and Jupiter are sattvic hence their gemstones are used to establish sattva in the ninth house. Remedy-> Sun (padmaraga) Moon (mukta) Jupiter (pushparaga) Malefic in ninth-> Saturn Mars Rahu (or Ketu) The given table shows the link. With Ketu in ninth we can however settle with wearing a Gold ring on the right hand ring finger. In all cases the remedy graha is worn on the right hand ring finger. Hope this clarifies. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Maja Å trbac skrev: Om Gurave Namah  Dear Visti Ji, Namaste  I was wondering about this:  Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Can you please explain this "reversal"? Because I can catch up with Rahu/Guru and Sani/Surya pairs if we are using opposite directions for Grahas in Digchakra, but I can not fit remaining pair Chandra/Mangal in any way to this same logic.  What is the principle that we are using here in first place?  Warm Regards, Maja Strbac  Hari Om Tat Sat  --- On Tue, 12/16/08, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:  Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Choosing gemstone on divisonal charts ? Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 7:09 AM हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£ Dear Chandan, Namaskar. Excuse me for not answering in full in my last mail, I realise no one learns if no one shares, so here is what I have learned and have to share. I have gathered the following rules reg. gemstones with time (this will be republished on my website for reference): The prescription of metals or gemstones belongs to the concept of Tantra, i.e. Tanu+Trayi meaning to protect the body. This is best to advise when a person may be making a wrong decision and you want them to stick to the right one. Just as one can advise gemstones to protect the body, there are gemstones which can remove the protection of the body, hence one should advise these wisely. Sanskrit word for gemstone is ratna but does not literally mean gemstone, but can also refer to treasure, jewel, precious stone, and is derived from the word rÄ meaning a gift, goods, wealth or riches. (Monier-Williams) The word ratna specifically refers to nine types of treasure or jewels namely mukta (pearl), vajra (diamond), padmarÄga (ruby), pushparÄga (topaz), indranÄ«la (clear/stainless sapphire), marakata (emerald), vaidÅ«rya (cats eye), vidruma (coral) and gomeda (hessonite). For the same reason the word ratna also means nine in vedic numerology. PushparÄga has been translated as Topaz by most, however the Garuda Purana (Suta, 2007, p. 174) does state that different colours of the pushparÄga can be regarded as equal to the indranÄ«la (sapphire) or padmarÄga (ruby). Therefore, among the indranÄ«la (Sapphire) we must infer that certain shades (i.e. yellow) can be regarded as giving the effects of pushparÄga (topaz). Hence, whilst all sapphires fall in the same group of indranÄ«la the colour of them being different also differentiates the effects of wearing them greatly. Details should be learned from the Garuda Purana in this regard. The Deva are supposed to reside in the particle of a ratna which is clear, bright, without cracks or lines in it and has no unusual shades in it. Hence, the wearing of a ratna is for the sake of keeping a Deva next to you and protecting you. RatnakÄraka Ratna comes under the various metals known as Dhatu. Moon, Mars, Saturn and RÄhu signify the Dhatu and among them Moon rules over Ratna, whilst Mars rules over the earth, Saturn over the raw minerals such as oil and irons whilst RÄhu rules over the rare metals such as Gold and platinum. Hence, Moon is Ratna kÄraka and divisional charts as Somanatha Drekkana and Somanatha Navamsha are the most important to judge the effect of gemstones. As specifically the Drekkana refers to ones karma and this is signified by ones hands, the Somanatha drekkana is apt to judge the effects of gemstones. Specifically this divisional chart shows ones ojas and how one uses it. Strong ojas can grant fame, and hence this divisional chart can be used to see ones popularity as well as sexuality where ones ojas is used. The Moon signifying all gemstones is also known as gunatmaka, i.e .the self in the form of guna or attributes. Hence to understand the effects of a gemstone vis-a-vis other gemstones we use the gunachakra. This is also used for other purposes and is an integral part of Vedic numerology. This will be explained further below. Which finger to wear the gemstone on can be understood from Vedic Remedies in Astrology, by Sanjay Rath. The four fingers represent moksha, artha, dharma and kÄma respectively for the index, middle, ring and little fingers. No gem is advised on the index finger as it risks blocking moksha and increasing ahamkara. The following table has been culled out of the same work. Table 2: Finger and Ratna (Rath) Ratna Finger Ruby Ring (3rd from index) Pearl Ring or Little finger (3rd or 4th from index) Coral Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Emerald Middle or little fingers (2nd or 4th from index) Yellow Topaz/Yellow Sapphire Ring (3rd from index) Diamond Ring (3rd from index) Blue Sapphire Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Hessonite Middle or little finger (2nd or 4th from index) Cats eye Middle or ring finger (2nd or 3rd from index) Garuda Purana states that gemstones can do great good for the human race and they have natural (Naisargika) characteristics which will benefit everyone. Example: a lady wishing to be a mother would benefit greatly from wearing a pushparÄga (topaz) or pokhraj (yellow sapphire). Similarly a person having cancer should wear a diamond and recite mrtyunjaya mantra. These natural indications of gemstones can be applied to all the gemstones and the effects are given in Garuda Purana. Table 3: Ratna and Graha (Dikshita, 1992, p. 1.55) Graha Ratna Translation Sun PadmarÄga Ruby Moon Mukta Pearl Mars Vidruma Coral Mercury Marakata Emerald Jupiter PushparÄga Yellow Topaz Venus Vajra Diamond Saturn IndranÄ«la Blue Sapphire Rahu Gomeda Hessonite Ketu VaidÅ«rya Cats eye Tradition is everything when it comes to applying any advice and hereunder is some of the advice that I have gathered from my teacher. Ratna should be advised based on the first, fifth and ninth house lords in the Rashi (D1) chart. These are the best gemstones and will support the native in their purpose of life. The first lord protects the head and intelligence, the fifth protects the hands and torso, whilst the ninth protects the legs, and hence the native will always select the best path in life if the gemstone of the ninth lord is worn. Thus the ninth lord is the most auspicious gemstone. This can also be used to advise the best gemstone for disease in particular parts of the body. Malefics placed in the ninth house cause misfortune, and in such cases reversal gems are advised. Graha in 9th Gemstone advised Saturn Ruby (pink ruby for ladies) Rähu Yellow Sapphire or Yellow Topaz Ketu Gold ring Mars Pearl  Gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth house lords are inauspicious and cause strife, disease and loss respectively and should not be worn. To both the above there are exceptions which occur on account of Yoga. Yoga and Sambandha (reference: Atri Classes) The graha give their effects by affecting the four ayana or goals of the person’s life namely dharma, artha, kÄma and moksha symbolised by the first, second, third or fourth pada of a nakshatra, or fiery, earthy, airy and watery signs respectively. When a graha is in parivartana yoga with another, then the other graha will affect all four ayana of the former graha. Therefore, if the ninth lord is in parivartana with the sixth lord the gemstone of the sixth lord should be advised. Similarly when a graha is yuti another graha it takes on three of the four ayanas of the other graha. Which three ayana depends on i) the particular grahas Navamsha sign ii) the two signs adjacent that particular sign. Example: If Sun is joined Venus then Sun will give the effects of Venus. In such a case should Sun be placed in the Navamsha of Capricorn then it would give the effects of Venus’ Artha-ayana due to being in an earthy Navamsha, and further as the Navamsha before is that of a fiery sign and that after being an airy sign, the Sun would give the effects of Venus’ dharma-ayana (fiery) and kÄma-ayana (airy) as well, but not the moksha-ayana (watery). If three or more graha join then the interchange of effects will be decided based on the natural benefic/malefic indications of the graha, viz. if Jupiter, Saturn and Mercury join then the highest malefic and highest benefic will interchange results, thus causing Saturn and Jupiter to interchange results whilst Mercury will give not give the results of anyone. Similarly apply this to conjunction of more grahas. The two remaining Sambandha, viz. Samdristi and Parivartana dristi are not taken into account for this purpose as they only affect two or one ayana among the full four ayana of a graha, yet are still applied when timing events. VÄrachakra Table 4: Varachakra # Graha 1 Sun 2 Moon 3 Mars 4 Mercury 5 Jupiter 6 Venus 7 Saturn 8 Rähu 9 Ketu In some cases the gemstones of the sixth, eighth or twelfth lords needs to be given to as those graha are causing excessive problems to the native. This occurs when another graha is causing an eclipse on that graha and thus denying it of its positive effects. I.e. Sri Kashinatha Rath was recalled to have given the advice of wearing Ruby to a Pisces Lagna, as Sun was in the sixth and Rähu was placed in the tenth. In that specific scenario the native was suffering on account of repeated legal battles. The reason being on account of Rähu. This is further explained as: when a graha occupies the Simhasana bhavas (10th, 1st or 5th in that order) that graha causes an eclipse on the third graha in the order of the Varachakra. Viz. in the order of weekdays the third graha from Rähu is the Sun, hence when Rähu is in the tenth house the native will have problems on account of the house placement and lordship of the Sun in their life. Similarly if among the Simhasana Bhava only Mars is placed in the fifth house then the placement and lordship of Jupiter will be hampered. The Varachakra has many uses in matters of Jyotish, and this is the logic behind many principles in the Brighu Sutras. Gunachakra Table 1: Gunachakra # Graha Guna 1 Sun Satva 2 Moon 3 Jupiter 4 Rähu  5 Mercury Rajas 6 Venus 7 Ketu  8 Saturn Tamas 9 Mars Gunachakra is applied somewhat differently than the Varachakra. If a Graha is inauspicious then we can choose to lock or unlock its indications using the fourth or seventh graha in the gunachakra respectively. Example: cancer and tumours are caused by a malignant growth of cancer-cells in the body and is signified by an afflicted Jupiter. In the Gunachakra the fourth graha from Jupiter is Venus who can block the spread of cancer. Thus to remedy such a disease wearing diamond is advised along with Mrtyunjaya mantra. Similarly Mars can cause nervous system issues such as Parkinsons and the likes, and to block this issue a gemstone of Jupiter is advised along with the Mrtyunjaya bijas. Should a graha already be blocking the native in one aspect of life, then the unlocker (7th graha) is required. I.e. if for Taurus lagna the lord Venus is placed in Libra, the native will be bothered by constant disease on account of wrong application of intelligence. Therefore the intellect can be deemed as locked and wearing a Yellow Topaz/Sapphire is advised. Similarly if Moon is very badly placed and has no nÄ«cha bhanga then a Blue Sapphire is advised as Saturn is the seventh graha from the Moon in weekday order and can unlock these negatives. There are undoubtedly more applications of the Gunachakra in this regard, reg. gemstones, yet until I have been presented with them, this is what I have to share. Somanatha Drekkana Having ascertained the gemstone as per the Rashi chart it is worthwhile to check the SomanÄtha Drekkana. Herein graha lording the second house is a mÄraka to the ojas in the body and will curtail health and sexuality. This gemstone is therefore not advised, and neither is the lord of the twelfth as this is the sixth lord from the seventh house causing celibacy to the partner. Similarly the sixth and eighth lords affect the partner in a similar fashion and those gemstones should preferably also be avoided. Advising the third lord’s gem can increase the person’s libido significantly and advising this gemstone should be done thoughtfully. The gem of the lagna lord is the best and ensures good health and fame. Apply this advice intelligently. Hope this helps to share insight. Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- www: http://srigaruda. com @: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com chandan486 skrev: ||aum namah shivaya|| dear visti, namaste. Well , the point that he landed into troubles with the advent of Rahu Dasa , makes more sense now , but still you havent answered .. is mere conj enough to wear each other's gemstones ? or is it real parivartana that fulfils the condition for gemtsone exchange !! however , first we need to really understand , that conjunction actually makes planets behave like each other completely ? or only do they give each others effects in the dasha ? and if conj makes planets behave like each other ? then what does parivartana do ? does it also do the same ? if not the same , then whats different abt a parivartana then a conj ? humble regards, Chandan S sabarwal. @ . com, Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > ??? ??? ????? > Dear Chandan and Swee, Namaskar. > PV Narasimha Rao did see the legal issues and jail time, but through his > third and eighth lord Maha Dasa of Mars he was untouched. It was not > until Rahu Mahadasa that he saw problems, hence pointing out clearly > that the wearing of the Coral during Mars mahadasa was perfect advise... > Afterall he became Prime Minister after wearing it! How many can > astrologers can boast of a client attaining that once following a > remedial measure? > Yours sincerely, Visti Larsen > ------------ --------- --------- --------- ---- > www: http://srigaruda. com > @: visti > > Chandan Ssabarwal skrev: > > ||aum namah shivaya|| > > > > dear swee and visti, > > namaste ! > > > > swee - you are right abt PV Narasimha going to jail and also being > > held up in litigation (6th house effects) , that eventually came came > > upon unto him , after some of his own party members and associates > > (mercury), accused him of bribery and even showed the briefcase , in > > which he was actually deliveered INR 10 million . > > > > Visti - when you mentioned , that a red coral is being advised to worn > > simply based upon the conj of Mars and Mercury in 10th House , merc > > being lagnesha , i cannt somehow comprehend the basic theory behind > > this ... and i still remember reading somehwere on your website where > > you mentioned , only complete parivartana is actual exhange of houses > > and not simply conj.... > > > > conj simply gives results of each others in Dasas's ... but actual > > potency and maleficience / benificience is based upon Rasi / Dasamasa ! > > > > how could some one possibly advise a gemstone just based upon rasi and > > not even consider damasa , especially when career is concerend ? > > moreover , that Simhasana Yoga in Lagna in Narasimha's case , somehow > > makes me believe , it should have been the Emerald that he should have > > worn and not the red coral ... > > > > also , mercury forms a Nipuna Yoga with the Sun , so once again emerald. > > i had always wanted to pick up this thing with out , glad swee bought > > it up !! > > > > humbly yours, > > chandan s sabarwal. > > > Get your preferred Email name! 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