Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaramani Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Guys, Namaskar Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat ----- Original Message ----- Ramesh.F.Gangaramani To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 hare rama krsna Dear Guruji, But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right? Regards, Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru email: rafal www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Visti Larsen napisał(a): हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Guys, Namaskar Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat ----- Original Message ----- Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i @ . com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Rafal, Namaskar Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal Gendarz wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Guruji, But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right? Regards, Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) com www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Visti Larsen napisał(a): हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Guys, Namaskar Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat ----- Original Message ----- Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i @ . com Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namskar Can you please explain this, this is not very clear to me. Number/9= We obtain the Remainder which ..shows the Person thought of, how do we see this in navamsa is not very clear. Thanks Sharat - Visti Larsen Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:38 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Rafal, NamaskarYes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal Gendarz wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Guruji,But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Guys, NamaskarSharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum.Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar I have figured it out now. Thanks. The sign shown by the remainder in the second method when taken back to the prasna chart shows the person thought of. The Jhora makes it a bit easier as well Regards Sharat - Visti Larsen Saturday, May 05, 2007 11:38 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Rafal, NamaskarYes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal Gendarz wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Guruji,But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Guys, NamaskarSharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum.Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sharat, Thank you for your response. Can you use the same example, use quotient as lagna and remainder as rashi to interpret further please? This may give better understanding. thanks Ramesh Prasna, 070422 Natal Chart April 22, 2007 Time: 13:17:04 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 12 E 32' 00 " , 55 N 41' 00 " Frederiksberg, Denmark gidoc Sent by: 05/04/2007 05:38 PM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaramani Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? thanks Ramesh visti Sent by: 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Rafal, Namaskar Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal Gendarz wrote: hare rama krsna Dear Guruji, But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right? Regards, Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru email: rafal www.rohinaa.com (+48) 503 44 18 18 Visti Larsen napisa³(a): हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Guys, Namaskar Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i @ . com Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, When we fix the Prashna with the number used(100) we get this chart. Now here Plag shows the Number Rasi arrived at.(100/9= 11 as Q; 11+1=12 which is Pisces) The secret number lagna is as follows: 100/12: Q=8(96) R=4 4=cancer, 8+1=9 shows planet, which will be Ketu Count from Cancer to Pisces (Number Lagna Rasi) , which comes to 9. Count 9 from Ketu = 10 th House Thus the root issue here lies in the karma bhava, which sometimes the native is unaware of. Hope this is helpful. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaramani Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:37 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sharat, Thank you for your response. Can you use the same example, use quotient as lagna and remainder as rashi to interpret further please? This may give better understanding. thanks Ramesh Prasna, 070422 Natal Chart April 22, 2007 Time: 13:17:04 Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT) Place: 12 E 32' 00", 55 N 41' 00" Frederiksberg, Denmark gidoc (AT) ukfsn (DOT) org Sent by: 05/04/2007 05:38 PM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaramani Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, If I can answer that: The person thought of is seen from the Navamsa of the Number Rasi, when taken back to the Rasi. If you see my previous mail, the Navamsa of the Number lagna rasi(Pisc) is Cancer, when seen in Rasi, this is Lagna. He is thus thinking about himself. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaramani Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:45 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? thanks Ramesh visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com Sent by: 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Rafal, NamaskarYes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Rafal Gendarz wrote: hare rama krsnaDear Guruji,But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right?Regards,Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guruemail: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) comwww.rohinaa.com(+48) 503 44 18 18 Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Guys, NamaskarSharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum.Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar, If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. Regards Sharat - Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namaskar In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. Are these two different methods? thanks Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sharat, Namsakar I am not sure if this is in line the method explained by Sanjayji. I think he looks up this rashi from AL and in D1. Please not that here I am trying use Sanjayji's method to analyse the prasna drawn up by Visti in that lecture to see if both can be reconciled. Best regards Ramesh , " Sharat " <gidoc wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > If I can answer that: > The person thought of is seen from the Navamsa of the Number Rasi, when taken back to the Rasi. If you see my previous mail, the Navamsa of the Number lagna rasi(Pisc) is Cancer, when seen in Rasi, this is Lagna. > He is thus thinking about himself. > Regards > Sharat > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani > > Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:45 PM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? > thanks > Ramesh > > > > visti > Sent by: > 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to > > > > To > cc > Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > hare rama krsna > > Dear Guruji, > > But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right? > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > email: rafal > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ > > Dear Guys, Namaskar > Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum. > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > Sharat wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > Namaskar, > If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: > > The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. > The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. > The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi (Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. > > I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. > > I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. > > Regards > Sharat > > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > > In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; > > 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. > > 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. > > Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. > > Are these two different methods? > > thanks > Ramesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar This is how Visti has taught this usage based on Sanjay ji's teaching. He uses this in his paper as well. Sanjay ji has used this in this forum previously as well. Perhaps you have another source, so do elaborate on that so we can all understand it. Regards Sharat - Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, May 07, 2007 1:57 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Sharat, NamsakarI am not sure if this is in line the method explained by Sanjayji. I think he looks up this rashi from AL and in D1. Please not that here I am trying use Sanjayji's method to analyse the prasna drawn up by Visti in that lecture to see if both can be reconciled.Best regardsRamesh , " Sharat" <gidoc wrote:>> ||Namah Shivaya||> Dear Ramesh,> If I can answer that:> The person thought of is seen from the Navamsa of the Number Rasi, when taken back to the Rasi. If you see my previous mail, the Navamsa of the Number lagna rasi(Pisc) is Cancer, when seen in Rasi, this is Lagna.> He is thus thinking about himself.> Regards> Sharat> > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani > > Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:45 PM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? > thanks > Ramesh > > > > visti > Sent by: > 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to> > > > To > cc > Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > > > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > hare rama krsna> > Dear Guruji,> > But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right?> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Guys, Namaskar> Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum.> Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > Sharat wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > Namaskar, > If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: > > The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. > The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. > The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. > > I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. > > I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. > > Regards > Sharat > > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > > In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; > > 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. > > 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. > > Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. > > Are these two different methods? > > thanks > Ramesh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007  II Om Gurave Namah IIOm hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swahaHari OM Dear Sharat, Sanjayji taught in 2004 West Coast SJC Aug 21-Aug 29 at Sunnyvale, CA and i have understood differently.The track is something like , "Count from AL to Aries .We get the First house. What ? about himself , life, health First see the house;V about child IX about father what is that He is seeking. Now see what he is thinking about.Now From Aries to Aquarious Income gain etc . He is bit worried What you say.Friends .What do u think. You want to divide by 12 divide , you will get the exactly the same answer.The Navamsa is in Aquarious." This is from Track 12 From CD Number Four. BTW i did not know when Sanjay taught it on forum.May be before 2000.? that time I was not member of any forum.Any reference of Message related to these teachings.. Please understand I am not creating controvercy But am not understanding correctly as Mr Ramesh is having doubts So i to have also doubts? To me only way is working and veryfing with clients and reading what is being taught here. i request and Hope once again teachings can be re expalined with reference to Workshop where technique was taught. Unfortunately I did not get enough opportunity to try this method I use method of Nakshatra taught by Kapoor to know the subject in mind of querent. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Sharat Monday, May 07, 2007 6:44 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar This is how Visti has taught this usage based on Sanjay ji's teaching. He uses this in his paper as well. Sanjay ji has used this in this forum previously as well. Perhaps you have another source, so do elaborate on that so we can all understand it. Regards Sharat - Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, May 07, 2007 1:57 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Sharat, NamsakarI am not sure if this is in line the method explained by Sanjayji. I think he looks up this rashi from AL and in D1. Please not that here I am trying use Sanjayji's method to analyse the prasna drawn up by Visti in that lecture to see if both can be reconciled.Best regardsRamesh , " Sharat" <gidoc wrote:>> ||Namah Shivaya||> Dear Ramesh,> If I can answer that:> The person thought of is seen from the Navamsa of the Number Rasi, when taken back to the Rasi. If you see my previous mail, the Navamsa of the Number lagna rasi(Pisc) is Cancer, when seen in Rasi, this is Lagna.> He is thus thinking about himself.> Regards> Sharat> > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani > > Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:45 PM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? > thanks > Ramesh > > > > visti > Sent by: > 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to> > > > To > cc > Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > > > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > hare rama krsna> > Dear Guruji,> > But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right?> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Guys, Namaskar> Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum.> Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > Sharat wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > Namaskar, > If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: > > The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. > The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. > The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. > > I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. > > I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. > > Regards > Sharat > > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > > In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; > > 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. > > 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. > > Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. > > Are these two different methods? > > thanks > Ramesh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Srivastavaji, I havent followed this at all. I dont have access to this audio.Perhaps you need an example to explain what you are saying. What I have quoted follows Visti's teaching as per his paper. Regards Sharat - swami Monday, May 07, 2007 5:31 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  II Om Gurave Namah IIOm hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swahaHari OM Dear Sharat, Sanjayji taught in 2004 West Coast SJC Aug 21-Aug 29 at Sunnyvale, CA and i have understood differently.The track is something like , "Count from AL to Aries .We get the First house. What ? about himself , life, health First see the house;V about child IX about father what is that He is seeking. Now see what he is thinking about.Now >From Aries to Aquarious Income gain etc . He is bit worried What you say.Friends .What do u think. You want to divide by 12 divide , you will get the exactly the same answer.The Navamsa is in Aquarious." This is from Track 12 From CD Number Four. BTW i did not know when Sanjay taught it on forum.May be before 2000.? that time I was not member of any forum.Any reference of Message related to these teachings.. Please understand I am not creating controvercy But am not understanding correctly as Mr Ramesh is having doubts So i to have also doubts? To me only way is working and veryfing with clients and reading what is being taught here. i request and Hope once again teachings can be re expalined with reference to Workshop where technique was taught. Unfortunately I did not get enough opportunity to try this method I use method of Nakshatra taught by Kapoor to know the subject in mind of querent. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs :Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Sharat Monday, May 07, 2007 6:44 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar This is how Visti has taught this usage based on Sanjay ji's teaching. He uses this in his paper as well. Sanjay ji has used this in this forum previously as well. Perhaps you have another source, so do elaborate on that so we can all understand it. Regards Sharat - Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, May 07, 2007 1:57 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Sharat, NamsakarI am not sure if this is in line the method explained by Sanjayji. I think he looks up this rashi from AL and in D1. Please not that here I am trying use Sanjayji's method to analyse the prasna drawn up by Visti in that lecture to see if both can be reconciled.Best regardsRamesh , " Sharat" <gidoc wrote:>> ||Namah Shivaya||> Dear Ramesh,> If I can answer that:> The person thought of is seen from the Navamsa of the Number Rasi, when taken back to the Rasi. If you see my previous mail, the Navamsa of the Number lagna rasi(Pisc) is Cancer, when seen in Rasi, this is Lagna.> He is thus thinking about himself.> Regards> Sharat> > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani > > Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:45 PM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? > thanks > Ramesh > > > > visti > Sent by: > 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to> > > > To > cc > Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > > > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > hare rama krsna> > Dear Guruji,> > But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right?> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Guys, Namaskar> Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum.> Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > Sharat wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > Namaskar, > If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: > > The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. > The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. > The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. > > I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. > > I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. > > Regards > Sharat > > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > > In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; > > 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. > > 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. > > Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. > > Are these two different methods? > > thanks > Ramesh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007  II Om Gurave Namah IIOm hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swahaHari OM Dear Sharat, I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as attachment. In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr jim gave Number 97. I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference to time date and place of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji was in hurry.Method described was . 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries. Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna. From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is first house in prasna chart. So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom about thought is in mind of questioner) So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about spouse and so on. Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries is navasa trasposed to D1) Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc. In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter the person is thinking about. Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully. Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya. You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs:Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Sharat Monday, May 07, 2007 10:18 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Srivastavaji, I havent followed this at all. I dont have access to this audio.Perhaps you need an example to explain what you are saying. What I have quoted follows Visti's teaching as per his paper. Regards Sharat - swami Monday, May 07, 2007 5:31 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  II Om Gurave Namah IIOm hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swahaHari OM Dear Sharat, Sanjayji taught in 2004 West Coast SJC Aug 21-Aug 29 at Sunnyvale, CA and i have understood differently.The track is something like , "Count from AL to Aries .We get the First house. What ? about himself , life, health First see the house;V about child IX about father what is that He is seeking. Now see what he is thinking about.Now >From Aries to Aquarious Income gain etc . He is bit worried What you say.Friends .What do u think. You want to divide by 12 divide , you will get the exactly the same answer.The Navamsa is in Aquarious." This is from Track 12 From CD Number Four. BTW i did not know when Sanjay taught it on forum.May be before 2000.? that time I was not member of any forum.Any reference of Message related to these teachings.. Please understand I am not creating controvercy But am not understanding correctly as Mr Ramesh is having doubts So i to have also doubts? To me only way is working and veryfing with clients and reading what is being taught here. i request and Hope once again teachings can be re expalined with reference to Workshop where technique was taught. Unfortunately I did not get enough opportunity to try this method I use method of Nakshatra taught by Kapoor to know the subject in mind of querent. OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaB.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, JyotishiTel: +91 562-2232323/4001223;Mob 9412268768 Email: swami_rcs :Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Sharat Monday, May 07, 2007 6:44 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar This is how Visti has taught this usage based on Sanjay ji's teaching. He uses this in his paper as well. Sanjay ji has used this in this forum previously as well. Perhaps you have another source, so do elaborate on that so we can all understand it. Regards Sharat - Ramesh F. Gangaramani Monday, May 07, 2007 1:57 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Sharat, NamsakarI am not sure if this is in line the method explained by Sanjayji. I think he looks up this rashi from AL and in D1. Please not that here I am trying use Sanjayji's method to analyse the prasna drawn up by Visti in that lecture to see if both can be reconciled.Best regardsRamesh , " Sharat" <gidoc wrote:>> ||Namah Shivaya||> Dear Ramesh,> If I can answer that:> The person thought of is seen from the Navamsa of the Number Rasi, when taken back to the Rasi. If you see my previous mail, the Navamsa of the Number lagna rasi(Pisc) is Cancer, when seen in Rasi, this is Lagna.> He is thus thinking about himself.> Regards> Sharat> > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani > > Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:45 PM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis> > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? > thanks > Ramesh > > > > visti > Sent by: > 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to> > > > To > cc > Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > > > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar> Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > hare rama krsna> > Dear Guruji,> > But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right?> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru> email: rafal www.rohinaa.com> (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Guys, Namaskar> Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum.> Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > Sharat wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > Namaskar, > If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: > > The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. > The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. > The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi(Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. > > I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. > > I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. > > Regards > Sharat > > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > > In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; > > 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. > > 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. > > Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. > > Are these two different methods? > > thanks > Ramesh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar The method is not different. Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself. Exampe: Number 97. The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha. 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and check the same sign in rasi. But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives mind. Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote:   II Om Gurave Namah II Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha Hari OM Dear Sharat, I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as attachment. In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr jim gave Number 97. I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference to time date and place of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji was in hurry.Method described was . 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder  represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries. Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna. From audio  track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is first house in prasna chart. So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom about thought is in mind of questioner) So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about spouse and so on. Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries is navasa trasposed to D1) Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc. In essence the method gives Person thought about  and subject matter the person is thinking about. Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully. Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya. You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could  be Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different  from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding.       OM TATSAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223; Mob 9412268768  Email: swami_rcs :Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." ----- Original Message ----- Sharat To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Srivastavaji, I havent followed this at all. I dont have access to this audio.Perhaps you need an example to explain what you are saying. What I have quoted follows Visti's teaching as per his paper. Regards Sharat  ----- Original Message ----- swami To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis   II Om Gurave Namah II Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha Hari OM Dear Sharat, Sanjayji taught in 2004 West Coast SJC Aug 21-Aug 29 at Sunnyvale, CA and i have understood differently.The track is something like , "Count from AL to Aries .We get the First house. What ? about himself , life, health First see the house;V about child IX about father what is that He is seeking. Now see what he is thinking about.Now >From Aries to Aquarious  Income gain etc . He is bit worried What you say.Friends .What do u think. You want to divide by 12  divide , you will get the exactly the same answer.The Navamsa is in Aquarious." This is from Track 12 From CD Number Four. BTW i did not know when Sanjay taught it on forum.May be before 2000.? that time I was not member of any forum.Any reference of Message related to these teachings.. Please understand I am not creating controvercy But am not understanding correctly as Mr Ramesh is having doubts So i to have also doubts? To me only way is working and veryfing with clients and reading what is being taught here.  i request and Hope once again teachings can be re expalined with reference to Workshop where technique was taught. Unfortunately I did not get enough opportunity to try this method I use method of Nakshatra taught by Kapoor to know the subject in mind of querent.   OM TATSAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava B.Sc., Grad ; Telecom Engg: Grad Ayurveda, Jyotishi Tel: +91 562-2232323/4001223; Mob 9412268768  Email: swami_rcs :Skype: swami daivayga ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." ----- Original Message ----- Sharat To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis  ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar This is how Visti has taught this usage based on Sanjay ji's teaching. He uses this in his paper as well. Sanjay ji has used this in this forum previously as well. Perhaps you have another source, so do elaborate on that so we can all understand it. Regards Sharat  ----- Original Message ----- Ramesh F. Gangaramani To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Sharat, Namsakar I am not sure if this is in line the method explained by Sanjayji. I think he looks up this rashi from AL and in D1. Please not that here I am trying use Sanjayji's method to analyse the prasna drawn up by Visti in that lecture to see if both can be reconciled. Best regards Ramesh , " Sharat" <gidoc wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > If I can answer that: > The person thought of is seen from the Navamsa of the Number Rasi, when taken back to the Rasi. If you see my previous mail, the Navamsa of the Number lagna rasi(Pisc) is Cancer, when seen in Rasi, this is Lagna. > He is thus thinking about himself. > Regards > Sharat > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaramani > > Sunday, May 06, 2007 1:45 PM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > I agree he said this will show the person the native is thinking about. Counting from that rashi to the quotient plus 1 rashi will show the subject. If we use this in the chart used by you, the person would be sibling (Cancer being 3rd from AL in D1) and subject dharma, father, matters related to 9H. It takes us in different direction than the one discussed in the lecture. How do we reconcile both? > thanks > Ramesh > > > > visti > Sent by: > 05/05/2007 06:38 AM Please respond to > > > > To > cc > Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > > > > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > Yes. This is used to find which PERSON the native is thinking about. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > hare rama krsna > > Dear Guruji, > > But the rasi in the 2nd method will show the rasi seen in the navamsa (counted from cardinals) and taken to the rasi, right? > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz - SJC Guru > email: rafal > www.rohinaa.com > (+48) 503 44 18 18 > > Visti Larsen napisaÅ‚(a): > > à ¤¹à ¤°à ¥‡ à ¤°à ¤¾à ¤® à ¤•à ¥ƒà ¤·à ¥Âà ¤£à ¥¥ > > Dear Guys, Namaskar > Sharat is right. And this was taught by Sanjayji in the past on this forum. > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda. com > > Sharat wrote: > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > Dear Ramesh, > Namaskar, > If I can take the liberty of answering part of this: > > The division of the number given, by 9, helps us arrive at the Number Lagna Rasi; in this case 100/9, gave 11 which raised to the next integer(which is the dictum) gives us 12, meaning Pisces. The Number Lagna Rasi in the Prasna chart, shows the focus of the mind of the client and from where the question will arise. > The other technique used is the Secret Number Lagna where by the real issue behind the question can be seen. This is calculated by division of the same number by 12, thus 100/12, gives 8 as the quotient and 4 as the remainder. The quotient represents a Planet(as per vara) while the remainder shows a Rasi. This was quoted by Guru Visti ( 4 being Cancer) however this was not used by him any further. > The way it is done is, in the Prasna chart, to count from the Rasi so obtained( eg Cancer in this case) to the Number Lagna Rasi (Pisces in this case) and arrive at a number, which will be 9, in this example. The same number when counted from the Planet( as ascertained by the quotient) in the Prasna chart leads us to the sign known as the Secret Number Lagna. > > I am not aware of the method used by Sanjay ji, perhaps if you will be kind enough to let me know the source I will be grateful. > > I hope Guru Visti will further enlighten us. > > Regards > Sharat > > > - > Ramesh.F.Gangaraman i > > Friday, May 04, 2007 9:27 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis > > > > Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat > > Dear Visti, Namaskar > > In the above lecture you have discussed using Prasna to find out what are native's thoughts. I gathered following from your talk; > > 1. Since AL is in 11H, the native is thinking of gains and since dispositor of AL also lords 4H, gains could be related to 4 and 11H. Planets in strength aspecting AL like Jupiter, could also influence the thoughts. > > 2. Quotient from 100/9 plus rounded remainder = 12 and hence 9H conjoining Pisces further shows thought process. I couldn't figure out the use of remainder 4. Can you please clarify? Kindly also add important points that I may have missed. > > Sanjayji in one of lectures suggests using rashi tulya method to get that remainder rashi (cancer) to D1 and checking it placement from AL, in this 3H to find the focus. For subject he suggests count from Cancer to Pisces, i.e. 9H matters. > > Are these two different methods? > > thanks > Ramesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar, Thanks for Sanjay ji's post, I did read it previously but the charts in it had not come out, hence it wasnt clear. So Prasna Arudha is the one which has the secret answer and one has to calculate it separately. So can this be used as a direction or answer to the Q posed? What is your experience of this? Thanks Regards Sharat , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥> > Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar> The method is not different.> Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself.> > Exampe: Number 97.> The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha.> 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi > Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not > navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi > chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and > check the same sign in rasi.> > But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the > Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, > whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives > mind.> > Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the > questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the > arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna > which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with.> > Yours sincerely,> > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark> email: visti <visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com>> > swami wrote:> >> > > >> > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> > Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha> > Hari OM> > Dear Sharat,> > I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as > > attachment.> > In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr > > jim gave Number 97.> > I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference > > to time date and place> > of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji > > was in hurry.Method described was .> > 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign > > is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder> > represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries.> > Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna.> > From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is > > first house in prasna chart.> > So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom > > about thought is in mind of questioner)> > So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about > > spouse and so on.> > Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries > > is navasa trasposed to D1)> > Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc.> > In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter > > the person is thinking about.> > Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully.> > Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya.> > You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be > > Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different> > from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. > > Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Sharat, Namaskar This prasna arudha shows the real source of the problem. In most cases we get to know this, but sometimes its necessary to use this. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar, Thanks for Sanjay ji's post, I did read it previously but the charts in it had not come out, hence it wasnt clear. So Prasna Arudha is the one which has the secret answer and one has to calculate it separately. So can this be used as a direction or answer to the Q posed? What is your experience of this? Thanks Regards Sharat , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ > > Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar > The method is not different. > Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself. > > Exampe: Number 97. > The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha. > 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi > Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not > navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi > chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and > check the same sign in rasi. > > But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the > Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, > whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives > mind. > > Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the > questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the > arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna > which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > swami wrote: > > > >  > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha > > Hari OM > > Dear Sharat, > > I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as > > attachment. > > In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr > > jim gave Number 97. > > I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference > > to time date and place > > of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji > > was in hurry.Method described was . > > 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign > > is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder > > represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries. > > Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna. > > From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is > > first house in prasna chart. > > So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom > > about thought is in mind of questioner) > > So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about > > spouse and so on. > > Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries > > is navasa trasposed to D1) > > Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc. > > In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter > > the person is thinking about. > > Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully. > > Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya. > > You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be > > Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different > > from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. > > Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 II Om Gurave Namah IIOm hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swahaHari OM Dear Visti, Without old mail It was simply impossible to understand the teachings by me . I am really grateful to You for posting it.Credit goes to sarvShee Ramesh ji, and Sharat ji to enter into dialogue. My thanks to both of them till I am able to digest and learn its application. just I feel You may like to Edit the PDF titled " principals of Prasna " with regards. OM TAT SAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Visti Larsen Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:50 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Sharat, NamaskarThis prasna arudha shows the real source of the problem. In most cases we get to know this, but sometimes its necessary to use this. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar, Thanks for Sanjay ji's post, I did read it previously but the charts in it had not come out, hence it wasnt clear. So Prasna Arudha is the one which has the secret answer and one has to calculate it separately. So can this be used as a direction or answer to the Q posed? What is your experience of this? Thanks Regards Sharat , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥> > Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar> The method is not different.> Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself.> > Exampe: Number 97.> The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha.> 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi > Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not > navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi > chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and > check the same sign in rasi.> > But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the > Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, > whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives > mind.> > Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the > questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the > arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna > which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with.> > Yours sincerely,> > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark> email: visti <visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com>> > swami wrote:> >> > > >> > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> > Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha> > Hari OM> > Dear Sharat,> > I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as > > attachment.> > In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr > > jim gave Number 97.> > I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference > > to time date and place> > of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji > > was in hurry.Method described was .> > 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign > > is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder> > represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries.> > Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna.> > From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is > > first house in prasna chart.> > So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom > > about thought is in mind of questioner)> > So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about > > spouse and so on.> > Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries > > is navasa trasposed to D1)> > Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc.> > In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter > > the person is thinking about.> > Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully.> > Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya.> > You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be > > Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different> > from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. > > Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Srivastava, Namaskar On your note, i have corrected the PDF to fine tune a calculation i missed and use the same terminology that Guruji uses. Its available for download at the site now. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: II Om Gurave Namah II Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha Hari OM Dear Visti, Without old mail It was simply impossible to understand the teachings by me . I am really grateful to You for posting it.Credit goes to sarvShee Ramesh ji, and Sharat ji to enter into dialogue. My thanks to both of them till I am able to digest and learn its application. just I feel You may like to Edit the PDF titled " principals of Prasna " with regards. OM TAT SAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Visti Larsen Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:50 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Sharat, Namaskar This prasna arudha shows the real source of the problem. In most cases we get to know this, but sometimes its necessary to use this. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar, Thanks for Sanjay ji's post, I did read it previously but the charts in it had not come out, hence it wasnt clear. So Prasna Arudha is the one which has the secret answer and one has to calculate it separately. So can this be used as a direction or answer to the Q posed? What is your experience of this? Thanks Regards Sharat , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ > > Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar > The method is not different. > Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself. > > Exampe: Number 97. > The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha. > 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi > Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not > navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi > chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and > check the same sign in rasi. > > But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the > Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, > whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives > mind. > > Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the > questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the > arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna > which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > swami wrote: > > > >  > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha > > Hari OM > > Dear Sharat, > > I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as > > attachment. > > In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr > > jim gave Number 97. > > I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference > > to time date and place > > of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji > > was in hurry.Method described was . > > 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign > > is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder > > represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries. > > Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna. > > From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is > > first house in prasna chart. > > So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom > > about thought is in mind of questioner) > > So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about > > spouse and so on. > > Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries > > is navasa trasposed to D1) > > Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc. > > In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter > > the person is thinking about. > > Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully. > > Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya. > > You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be > > Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different > > from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. > > Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2007 Report Share Posted May 8, 2007 II Om Gurave Namah IIOm hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swahaHari OM Thanks Visti How cairing You are. May god bless You! OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Visti Larsen Tuesday, May 08, 2007 7:05 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Srivastava, NamaskarOn your note, i have corrected the PDF to fine tune a calculation i missed and use the same terminology that Guruji uses. Its available for download at the site now. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: II Om Gurave Namah IIOm hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swahaHari OM Dear Visti, Without old mail It was simply impossible to understand the teachings by me . I am really grateful to You for posting it.Credit goes to sarvShee Ramesh ji, and Sharat ji to enter into dialogue. My thanks to both of them till I am able to digest and learn its application. just I feel You may like to Edit the PDF titled " principals of Prasna " with regards. OM TAT SAT------------------------R.C.Srivastava------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding." - Visti Larsen Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:50 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Sharat, NamaskarThis prasna arudha shows the real source of the problem. In most cases we get to know this, but sometimes its necessary to use this. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC GuruJaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comFor consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar, Thanks for Sanjay ji's post, I did read it previously but the charts in it had not come out, hence it wasnt clear. So Prasna Arudha is the one which has the secret answer and one has to calculate it separately. So can this be used as a direction or answer to the Q posed? What is your experience of this? Thanks Regards Sharat , Visti Larsen <visti wrote:>> हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥> > Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar> The method is not different.> Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself.> > Exampe: Number 97.> The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha.> 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi > Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not > navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi > chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and > check the same sign in rasi.> > But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the > Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, > whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives > mind.> > Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the > questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the > arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna > which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with.> > Yours sincerely,> > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru> Jaimini SJC - Denmark> email: visti <visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com>> > swami wrote:> >> > > >> > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> > Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha> > Hari OM> > Dear Sharat,> > I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as > > attachment.> > In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr > > jim gave Number 97.> > I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference > > to time date and place> > of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji > > was in hurry.Method described was .> > 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign > > is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder> > represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries.> > Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna.> > From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is > > first house in prasna chart.> > So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom > > about thought is in mind of questioner)> > So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about > > spouse and so on.> > Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries > > is navasa trasposed to D1)> > Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc.> > In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter > > the person is thinking about.> > Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully.> > Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya.> > You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be > > Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different> > from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. > > Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namsakar Thank you for sending Sanjayji's old mail and for clarifying the subject. I have a question regarding calculations in your article. Your article counts the Leo to Capricorn as 6th and suggests counting the same number from Number planet Moon. Now since Moon is placed in 4H, prashna arudha should fall in 9H and not 10H as stated. Is that right? regards Ramesh visti Sent by: 05/08/2007 09:35 AM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Srivastava, Namaskar On your note, i have corrected the PDF to fine tune a calculation i missed and use the same terminology that Guruji uses. Its available for download at the site now. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: II Om Gurave Namah II Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha Hari OM Dear Visti, Without old mail It was simply impossible to understand the teachings by me . I am really grateful to You for posting it.Credit goes to sarvShee Ramesh ji, and Sharat ji to enter into dialogue. My thanks to both of them till I am able to digest and learn its application. just I feel You may like to Edit the PDF titled " principals of Prasna " with regards. OM TAT SAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " - Visti Larsen Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:50 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Sharat, Namaskar This prasna arudha shows the real source of the problem. In most cases we get to know this, but sometimes its necessary to use this. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar, Thanks for Sanjay ji's post, I did read it previously but the charts in it had not come out, hence it wasnt clear. So Prasna Arudha is the one which has the secret answer and one has to calculate it separately. So can this be used as a direction or answer to the Q posed? What is your experience of this? Thanks Regards Sharat , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ > > Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar > The method is not different. > Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself. > > Exampe: Number 97. > The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha. > 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi > Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not > navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi > chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and > check the same sign in rasi. > > But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the > Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, > whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives > mind. > > Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the > questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the > arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna > which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > swami wrote: > > > >  > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha > > Hari OM > > Dear Sharat, > > I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as > > attachment. > > In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr > > jim gave Number 97. > > I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference > > to time date and place > > of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji > > was in hurry.Method described was . > > 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign > > is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder > > represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries. > > Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna. > > From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is > > first house in prasna chart. > > So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom > > about thought is in mind of questioner) > > So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about > > spouse and so on. > > Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries > > is navasa trasposed to D1) > > Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc. > > In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter > > the person is thinking about. > > Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully. > > Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya. > > You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be > > Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different > > from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. > > Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Please ignore my question. regards Ramesh Ramesh.F.Gangaramani Sent by: 05/09/2007 02:26 PM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat Dear Visti, Namsakar Thank you for sending Sanjayji's old mail and for clarifying the subject. I have a question regarding calculations in your article. Your article counts the Leo to Capricorn as 6th and suggests counting the same number from Number planet Moon. Now since Moon is placed in 4H, prashna arudha should fall in 9H and not 10H as stated. Is that right? regards Ramesh visti Sent by: 05/08/2007 09:35 AM Please respond to To cc Subject Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Srivastava, Namaskar On your note, i have corrected the PDF to fine tune a calculation i missed and use the same terminology that Guruji uses. Its available for download at the site now. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com swami wrote: II Om Gurave Namah II Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha Hari OM Dear Visti, Without old mail It was simply impossible to understand the teachings by me . I am really grateful to You for posting it.Credit goes to sarvShee Ramesh ji, and Sharat ji to enter into dialogue. My thanks to both of them till I am able to digest and learn its application. just I feel You may like to Edit the PDF titled " principals of Prasna " with regards. OM TAT SAT ------------------------ R.C.Srivastava ------------------------ " Let us meditate on the glorious effulgence of that Divine Being who has created the three worlds.May He Direct our understanding. " - Visti Larsen Tuesday, May 08, 2007 4:50 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture 070422 on Chart Analysis हरे राम कृष्ण॥ Dear Sharat, Namaskar This prasna arudha shows the real source of the problem. In most cases we get to know this, but sometimes its necessary to use this. Yours sincerely, -- Visti Larsen - SJC Guru Jaimini SJC - Denmark email: visti For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com Sharat wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Visti, Namaskar, Thanks for Sanjay ji's post, I did read it previously but the charts in it had not come out, hence it wasnt clear. So Prasna Arudha is the one which has the secret answer and one has to calculate it separately. So can this be used as a direction or answer to the Q posed? What is your experience of this? Thanks Regards Sharat , Visti Larsen <visti wrote: > > हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥ > > Dear Ramesh and Srivastava, Namaskar > The method is not different. > Here is the method employed by Sanjayji and myself. > > Exampe: Number 97. > The lagna in the prasna is Kumbha and Arudha lagna is in Mesha. > 97/9= qoutient of 10 and remainder of 7. This amounts to the rasi > Aquarius and the navamsa of Aries. Now see Aries in the RASI (not > navamsa). Jhora does not take this last bit into account in the rasi > chart itself, so to find this sign you must see the navamsa first and > check the same sign in rasi. > > But the quotient-lagna is also important and Sanjayji taught during the > Hyderabad conference that this will show what is on the persons mind, > whilst the navamsa will show WHO or what OBJECT is occupying the natives > mind. > > Now, in my article i have explained to look at the Arudha lagna for the > questions which come to mind. What is not explained is to treat the > arudha lagna as lagna and reckon this with reference to the number-lagna > which now has been attained. This i leave you to work with. > > Yours sincerely, > > -- > Visti Larsen - SJC Guru > Jaimini SJC - Denmark > email: visti <visti > For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com > <http://srigaruda.com> > > swami wrote: > > > >  > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Om hrim gam hrim Mahaganapatayai namah swaha > > Hari OM > > Dear Sharat, > > I qouted Reference.Being copyright material I could not post track as > > attachment. > > In track 11 the method is re-taught after its teaching in New York.Mr > > jim gave Number 97. > > I could not follow method well.Reason in track there is no reference > > to time date and place > > of conducting exercise.It was end of CD4 prasna conference.Sanjay ji > > was in hurry.Method described was . > > 97 , divide by 9 we get 10 sign complete and remainder seven so sign > > is eleventh i.e.Aquarious.Remainder > > represents Navamsa. the 7 th Navamsa in Aquarious is Aries. > > Now we are to apply Rasi tulya navamsa .Count is made from Arudh Lagna. > > From audio track count is made from AL to Aries.Track says it is > > first house in prasna chart. > > So health ,life, self ,about question could be.( it is person whom > > about thought is in mind of questioner) > > So first we see house ex if it is 5 may be children 7 may be about > > spouse and so on. > > Next step is take Aquarious Count from Aries to Aquarious( here Aries > > is navasa trasposed to D1) > > Aries to Aquarious is 11 So subject is Income gain friend etc. > > In essence the method gives Person thought about and subject matter > > the person is thinking about. > > Lastly as i did not have access to data , i could not compehend fully. > > Here is what Ramsh ji is talking about, by saying Rasi tulya. > > You have pasted output of 108 Prasna chart.May be you could be > > Right.But method taught by Sanjay ji is different > > from J hora method and method employed by Sh Visti. > > Hope i am able to clarify my misunderstanding. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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