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Hello Members:

 

I had done my Shiva Naadi reading 11 years back, when I was studying. Although,

I was astonished at that time with the accuracy , what made my belief even more

stronger was everything that was predicted until now has come true. I remember

the nadi reader himself went to v. koil to get my nadi leaves. Well,

unfortunately my parents lost the cassette recording, while I was abroad. Also,

I could not trace the reader. Due to some issues in my life, I decided to go for

my Nadi reading again. I must mention that I collected feedback from the emails

in this group to visit these centres.

 

In the last two weeks, I happened to visit two centers - one in Ramanthapur

(Maha and the other in Nallakunta (Agasthiya /vidya-nagar colony) and I must

point out to some discrepancies:

 

- Although the general content of most recent past life karmas was the same, the

location and all the names were different in all the three centres (including

the one I visited 11 years back).HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?I wonder if the general

content is same for everyone.

 

- While one suggested that this was my last birth, the other suggested I had

another. 11 years back, my genuine nadi reader told me that I was supposed to be

born again.HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?

 

- The one at Nallakunta asked me for time of birth? I wondered if this should

not be in the sukshma Nadi itself. I specifically asked the reader this query,

for which he did not have any answer.

 

- At both centres, I felt like I was being tricked into the questions. Every

question followed a logical sequence based on the answers I gave. I thought

these were random leaves..based on my thumb imprint. for instance

 

-- Does your mother's name start with XX? Y/N

Some irrelevant questions in between........

-- If yes, then your mother's ends with YY?

Some irrelevant questions in between........

-- Your mother contains the following in the middle ...... (y/n)

 

Finally, they used this technique to get my fathers name, information about

siblings, profession..etc. Eventually, when they are done with this information

- they clubbed together all the information.

 

- Further,some of the future events predicted by either of these centres do NOT

match by year. For instance, while one centre predicts my father will have a

major health related problem in 10 years, other predicts in 20 years. Similarly,

while one predicts, at 48, I will face an issue as far as health is concerned,

other completely ignores it.

 

- Shanti and Deeksha kandams are completely different in all 3 centres. They

need me to perform different pujas or visit completely different set of temples

or deities. How is this possible again?

 

Surely, I feel offended since 2 of these centres are bogus, since they seem to

be duping me. further the pariharams they suggest are nearly worth Rs.15000 at

each place (this after almost spending rs 4000 on the whole). This is

ridiculous.

 

Agreed, these leaves were written by different sages - However how did so many

aspects mismatch?

 

Please help me in the following ways:

 

- confirming if any (or both) of these centres are fake. If yes, please share

your experience.

- If there is a genuine Nadi Reader in Hyderabad - I still want to get my

genuine reading...

- Any fool - proof test to know if the reader is genuine (I will appreciate if

you are specific).

- Although unlikely, if I have misinterpreted these readings.

 

Appreciate all your posts and look forward to your reply...

 

Thank You

Sudeep

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Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.

They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi

centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will

get angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle

game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

 

 

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will ask

Is your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su,sa,ma like that...then

candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then

it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa

Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa

suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,

Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

 

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?

Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother

name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi,thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its

end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu

name?( to decide srinivas,satyanarayan,venkatesan,if candidate will agree for

vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm

blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will

start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like

that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your

mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

 

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are

1. Candidate mother's name start s with su

2 ends with thi

3.one word only

4.three letters only

 

I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence

or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is

enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

 

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings,

your year of birth, month of birth, father name.

At the final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way

your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and

they will tell we found your leaf.

 

I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or

use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.

There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.

From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short,

lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our

thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.

 

I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa

blaas.

Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name,

and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will come right?

see my name chandra sekhar

and my date of birth ..................

and my father name.................

Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it

matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that

is my leaf right?

 

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters,

and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions

regarding my family.

 

Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.

naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.

But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your

birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may

be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)

 

if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they

will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your

situations.

may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no

I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical

way.

 

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.(

I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related

to Siva or Vishnu)

 

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and

economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.

 

I think no need to ask any one is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader

and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is

the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth

and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give

any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression

and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about

you according to naadi sastra.

 

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi

astrology mail me i will explain.

 

I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)

Thank you,

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Visit Durai subburathinam at Tambaram. Genuine reader and I have known him for 9 years.

The other person is Mathiazagan from the Brighu centre at Ashok Nagar.

 

Mohan--- On Mon, 1/6/09, deshmukh_sudeep <dsudeep wrote:

deshmukh_sudeep <dsudeep My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Monday, 1 June, 2009, 7:35 AM

 

 

Hello Members:I had done my Shiva Naadi reading 11 years back, when I was studying. Although, I was astonished at that time with the accuracy , what made my belief even more stronger was everything that was predicted until now has come true. I remember the nadi reader himself went to v. koil to get my nadi leaves. Well, unfortunately my parents lost the cassette recording, while I was abroad. Also, I could not trace the reader. Due to some issues in my life, I decided to go for my Nadi reading again. I must mention that I collected feedback from the emails in this group to visit these centres.In the last two weeks, I happened to visit two centers - one in Ramanthapur (Maha and the other in Nallakunta (Agasthiya /vidya-nagar colony) and I must point out to some discrepancies:- Although the general content of most recent past life karmas was the same, the location and all the names were different in all the three centres

(including the one I visited 11 years back).HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?I wonder if the general content is same for everyone. - While one suggested that this was my last birth, the other suggested I had another. 11 years back, my genuine nadi reader told me that I was supposed to be born again.HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?- The one at Nallakunta asked me for time of birth? I wondered if this should not be in the sukshma Nadi itself. I specifically asked the reader this query, for which he did not have any answer. - At both centres, I felt like I was being tricked into the questions. Every question followed a logical sequence based on the answers I gave. I thought these were random leaves..based on my thumb imprint. for instance-- Does your mother's name start with XX? Y/NSome irrelevant questions in between..... ...-- If yes, then your mother's ends with YY?Some irrelevant questions in between..... ...-- Your mother

contains the following in the middle ...... (y/n)Finally, they used this technique to get my fathers name, information about siblings, profession.. etc. Eventually, when they are done with this information - they clubbed together all the information.- Further,some of the future events predicted by either of these centres do NOT match by year. For instance, while one centre predicts my father will have a major health related problem in 10 years, other predicts in 20 years. Similarly, while one predicts, at 48, I will face an issue as far as health is concerned, other completely ignores it. - Shanti and Deeksha kandams are completely different in all 3 centres. They need me to perform different pujas or visit completely different set of temples or deities. How is this possible again? Surely, I feel offended since 2 of these centres are bogus, since they seem to be duping me. further the pariharams they suggest are nearly

worth Rs.15000 at each place (this after almost spending rs 4000 on the whole). This is ridiculous.Agreed, these leaves were written by different sages - However how did so many aspects mismatch? Please help me in the following ways:- confirming if any (or both) of these centres are fake. If yes, please share your experience.- If there is a genuine Nadi Reader in Hyderabad - I still want to get my genuine reading... - Any fool - proof test to know if the reader is genuine (I will appreciate if you are specific).- Although unlikely, if I have misinterpreted these readings. Appreciate all your posts and look forward to your reply...Thank YouSudeep

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4 June 2009

 

Dear all

 

I have been to many Naadi Readers but NONE of them have

satisfied me. I still believe that FAKE can only take place  if there is a REAL

one.  And I am looking for the REAL one.  Can anybody help me?

 

RG

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of chandra chandra

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:04 AM

 

Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and

Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I

am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.

They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi

centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get

angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle

game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

For

example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will ask

Is your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su,sa,ma like that...then

candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then

it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa

Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa

suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,

Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

 

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?

Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother

name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi,thu like that. candidate will tell yeah

its end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name

Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanarayan,venkatesan,if candidate will

agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after

a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes

reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so

like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is

your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

 

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are

1. Candidate mother's name start s with su

2 ends with thi

3.one word only

4.three letters only

 

I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much

intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good

memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

 

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of

siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.

At the final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast

way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers

and they will tell we found your leaf.

 

I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations

or use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.

There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.

From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall,

short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way

of attraction to naadi astrology.

 

I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa

blaas.

Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father

name, and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will come right?

see my name chandra sekhar

and my date of birth ..................

and my father name.................

Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if

it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf

that is my leaf right?

 

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth,

sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any

questions regarding my family.

 

Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.

naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.

But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know

your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take

time may be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)

 

if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they

will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your

situations.

may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology

,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a

logical way.

 

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go

there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name

related to Siva or Vishnu)

 

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and

economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.

 

I think no need to ask any one is

Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader

and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is

the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of

birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one.

Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression and 3 points of

information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to

naadi sastra.

 

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi

astrology mail me i will explain.

 

I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)

Thank you,

 

 

 

 

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Pl give me their contact details.

 

RG

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of Mohan Nagendram

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 2:23 AM

 

Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and

Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Visit Durai subburathinam at Tambaram. Genuine reader and

I have known him for 9 years.

 

 

The other person is Mathiazagan from the Brighu centre at

Ashok Nagar.

 

 

 

 

 

Mohan

 

--- On Mon, 1/6/09, deshmukh_sudeep <dsudeep

wrote:

 

 

 

deshmukh_sudeep <dsudeep

My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres

in Hyderabad...

 

Monday, 1 June, 2009, 7:35 AM

 

 

 

Hello Members:

 

I had done my Shiva Naadi reading 11 years back, when I was studying.

Although, I was astonished at that time with the accuracy , what made my

belief even more stronger was everything that was predicted until now has

come true. I remember the nadi reader himself went to v. koil to get my nadi

leaves. Well, unfortunately my parents lost the cassette recording, while I

was abroad. Also, I could not trace the reader. Due to some issues in my

life, I decided to go for my Nadi reading again. I must mention that I

collected feedback from the emails in this group to visit these centres.

 

In the last two weeks, I happened to visit two centers - one in Ramanthapur

(Maha and the other in Nallakunta (Agasthiya /vidya-nagar colony) and I must

point out to some discrepancies:

 

- Although the general content of most recent past life karmas was the same,

the location and all the names were different in all the three centres

(including the one I visited 11 years back).HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?I wonder if

the general content is same for everyone.

 

- While one suggested that this was my last birth, the other suggested I had

another. 11 years back, my genuine nadi reader told me that I was supposed to

be born again.HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?

 

- The one at Nallakunta asked me for time of birth? I wondered if this should

not be in the sukshma Nadi itself. I specifically asked the reader this

query, for which he did not have any answer.

 

- At both centres, I felt like I was being tricked into the questions. Every

question followed a logical sequence based on the answers I gave. I thought

these were random leaves..based on my thumb imprint. for instance

 

-- Does your mother's name start with XX? Y/N

Some irrelevant questions in between..... ...

-- If yes, then your mother's ends with YY?

Some irrelevant questions in between..... ...

-- Your mother contains the following in the middle ...... (y/n)

 

Finally, they used this technique to get my fathers name, information about

siblings, profession.. etc. Eventually, when they are done with this information

- they clubbed together all the information.

 

- Further,some of the future events predicted by either of these centres do

NOT match by year. For instance, while one centre predicts my father will

have a major health related problem in 10 years, other predicts in 20 years.

Similarly, while one predicts, at 48, I will face an issue as far as health

is concerned, other completely ignores it.

 

- Shanti and Deeksha kandams are completely different in all 3 centres. They

need me to perform different pujas or visit completely different set of

temples or deities. How is this possible again?

 

Surely, I feel offended since 2 of these centres are bogus, since they seem

to be duping me. further the pariharams they suggest are nearly worth

Rs.15000 at each place (this after almost spending rs 4000 on the whole).

This is ridiculous.

 

Agreed, these leaves were written by different sages - However how did so

many aspects mismatch?

 

Please help me in the following ways:

 

- confirming if any (or both) of these centres are fake. If yes, please share

your experience.

- If there is a genuine Nadi Reader in Hyderabad - I still want to get my

genuine reading...

- Any fool - proof test to know if the reader is genuine (I will appreciate

if you are specific).

- Although unlikely, if I have misinterpreted these readings.

 

Appreciate all your posts and look forward to your reply...

 

Thank You

Sudeep

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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HI Chandrashekar,

 

Nice to see your mail.

 

I also faced same issue. I went to tambaram, Thiru balasubramaniyam.

 

In the same way they also asked me. After getting my leaf, he went down for 10 min. Then he told about my place of planets is it matching with my horoscope?

 

I also thought once he know the DOB, anybody can determine the planet positions.

But he has not given which chapter I requested. Instead he only selected few chapters and given the reading. So I am also confused wheather it is worth to go....

 

So only once I went to nadi astrology and could not believe much on this. Planning to visit Chennai reader near Philip - as lot of people in this forum are telling he is gunine.

 

But I am re-thinking. Is ther any really genuine reader? Can pls somebody tellArun

 

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, chandra chandra <chandras_csk wrote:

chandra chandra <chandras_cskRe: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get angry)They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will askIs your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its end with thi,Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray

an,venkatesan, if candidate will agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are 1. Candidate mother's name start s with su2 ends with thi3.one word only4.three letters only I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.At the

final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and they will tell we found your leaf.I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or use computer through your date of birth only.Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa blaas.Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name, and my date of birth and my name.With these three

combination s no one will come right?see my name chandra sekhar and my date of birth ............ ......and my father name........ .........Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that is my leaf right?Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions regarding my family.Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may be months or years.and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my

opinion)if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your situations.may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical way.If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related to Siva or Vishnu)I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.I think no need to ask any one is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?If any reader, reading without logical way

questions then he is a good reader and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to naadi sastra.If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi astrology mail me i will explain. I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)Thank you,

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Hi Chandra,You are on the dot with what happened at the Nadi centres. I believe, through these posts, it should be established whether certain nadi readers and nadi centers are genuine and action should be taken against those which are not. I believe the two centres, I had been to are completely fake. However, the reason I went to one of the centres (Nallakunta) is due to one of the encouraging messages, I saw on this post.

Still, is there any centre in Hyderabad, which is genuine?Thanks.SudeepOn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, chandra chandra <chandras_csk wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.

They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi

centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will

get angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle

game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

 

 

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will ask

Is your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su,sa,ma like that...then

candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then

it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa

Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa

suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,

Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

 

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?

Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother

name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi,thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its

end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu

name?( to decide srinivas,satyanarayan,venkatesan,if candidate will agree for

vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm

blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will

start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like

that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your

mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

 

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are

 1. Candidate mother's name start s with su

2 ends with thi

3.one word only

4.three letters only

 

I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence

or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is

enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

 

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings,

your year of birth, month of birth, father name.

At the final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way

your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and

they will tell we found your leaf.

 

I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or

use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.

There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.

From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short,

lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our

thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.

 

I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa

blaas.

Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name,

and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will come right?

see my name chandra sekhar

and my date of birth ..................

and my father name.................

Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it

matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that

is my leaf right?

 

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters,

and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions

regarding my family.

 

Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.

naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.

But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your

birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may

be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)

 

if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist  ,they

will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your

situations.

may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no

I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical

way.

 

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.(

I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related

to Siva or Vishnu)

 

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and

economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.

 

I think no need to ask any one  is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader

and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is

the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth

and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give

any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression

and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about

you according to naadi sastra.

 

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi

astrology mail me i will explain.

 

I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)

Thank you,

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even i have been to ramanthapur. to put it brief, i think they should ve 2 sets of leaves (if not 1 that has the entire life). 1 set has the base details like dob, name, father's name, mom's name, sibling's name, spouse's name etc.,

 

they got the first part right. i mean all the names in my family are very unique and very difficult to decipher. they had it all right. but when it came down to reading my life details, he went in for about 1.5 hrs and came down with a natal chart!!!!!! just like any other astrolgoer and looked at the chart and told me the predictions like if that, then this, else this!!!!

 

if our life has been written on a leaf already, how can it have ifs and buts??? :) so they are missing the second set of leaves in ramanthapur atleast, leaves which tell the details of this janma. and they are cheating clients just by making natal charts and predicting from those.

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aru kum <haiaru123Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 11:39 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HI Chandrashekar,

 

Nice to see your mail.

 

I also faced same issue. I went to tambaram, Thiru balasubramaniyam.

 

In the same way they also asked me. After getting my leaf, he went down for 10 min. Then he told about my place of planets is it matching with my horoscope?

 

I also thought once he know the DOB, anybody can determine the planet positions.

But he has not given which chapter I requested. Instead he only selected few chapters and given the reading. So I am also confused wheather it is worth to go....

 

So only once I went to nadi astrology and could not believe much on this. Planning to visit Chennai reader near Philip - as lot of people in this forum are telling he is gunine.

 

But I am re-thinking. Is ther any really genuine reader? Can pls somebody tellArun

 

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ > wrote:

chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ >Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get angry)They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

 

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will askIs your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its end with thi,Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray

an,venkatesan, if candidate will agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are 1. Candidate mother's name start s with su2 ends with thi3.one word only4.three letters only I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.At the

final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and they will tell we found your leaf.I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or use computer through your date of birth only.Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa blaas.Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name, and my date of birth and my name.With these three

combination s no one will come right?see my name chandra sekhar and my date of birth ............ ......and my father name........ .........Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that is my leaf right?Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions regarding my family.Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may be months or years.and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my

opinion)if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your situations.may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical way.If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related to Siva or Vishnu)I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.I think no need to ask any one is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?If any reader, reading without logical way

questions then he is a good reader and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information.

 

Through your thumb impression and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to naadi sastra.If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi astrology mail me i will explain. I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)Thank you,

 

 

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dear memebers of nadiastrologyi shall like to ask you one question that is there any memeber wholse whole life prediction has proved right by the nadi astrologers. don;t tell about past pls. only the future--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep wrote:Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeepRe: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 8:42 PM

 

Hi Chandra,You are on the dot with what happened at the Nadi centres. I believe, through these posts, it should be established whether certain nadi readers and nadi centers are genuine and action should be taken against those which are not. I believe the two centres, I had been to are completely fake. However, the reason I went to one of the centres (Nallakunta) is due to one of the encouraging messages, I saw on this post.

Still, is there any centre in Hyderabad, which is genuine?Thanks.SudeepOn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.

They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi

centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will

get angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle

game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

 

 

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will ask

Is your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then

candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then

it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa

Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa

suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,

Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

 

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?

Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother

name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its

end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu

name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray an,venkatesan, if candidate will agree for

vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm

blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will

start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like

that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your

mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

 

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are

1. Candidate mother's name start s with su

2 ends with thi

3.one word only

4.three letters only

 

I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence

or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is

enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

 

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings,

your year of birth, month of birth, father name.

At the final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way

your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and

they will tell we found your leaf.

 

I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or

use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.

There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.

From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short,

lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our

thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.

 

I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa

blaas.

Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name,

and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will come right?

see my name chandra sekhar

and my date of birth ............ ......

and my father name........ .........

Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it

matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that

is my leaf right?

 

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters,

and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions

regarding my family.

 

Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.

naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.

But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your

birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may

be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)

 

if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they

will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your

situations.

may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no

I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical

way.

 

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.(

I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related

to Siva or Vishnu)

 

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and

economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.

 

I think no need to ask any one is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader

and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is

the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth

and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give

any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression

and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about

you according to naadi sastra.

 

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi

astrology mail me i will explain.

I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)

Thank you,

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gentleman,only one and that is god knows about future and nobody else.--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Ravinder Grover <rgrover wrote:Ravinder Grover <rgroverRE: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 8:34 AM

 

 

 

4 June 2009 Dear all I have been to many Naadi Readers but NONE of them have

satisfied me. I still believe that FAKE can only take place if there is a REAL

one. And I am looking for the REAL one. Can anybody help me? RG

 

 

[naadiastrol ogy ] On

Behalf Of chandra chandra

Wednesday, June 03, 2009 1:04 AM

 

Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and

Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep, I

am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.

They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi

centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get

angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle

game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way. For

example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will ask

Is your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then

candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then

it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa

Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa

suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,

Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

 

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?

Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother

name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah

its end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name

Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray an,venkatesan, if candidate will

agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after

a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes

reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so

like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is

your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

 

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are

1. Candidate mother's name start s with su

2 ends with thi

3.one word only

4.three letters only

 

I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much

intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good

memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

 

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of

siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.

At the final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast

way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers

and they will tell we found your leaf.

 

I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations

or use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.

There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.

From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall,

short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way

of attraction to naadi astrology.

 

I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa

blaas.

Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father

name, and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will come right?

see my name chandra sekhar

and my date of birth ............ ......

and my father name........ .........

Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if

it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf

that is my leaf right?

 

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth,

sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any

questions regarding my family.

 

Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.

naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.

But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know

your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take

time may be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)

 

if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they

will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your

situations.

may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology

,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a

logical way.

 

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go

there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name

related to Siva or Vishnu)

 

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and

economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.

 

I think no need to ask any one is

Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader

and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is

the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of

birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one.

Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information. Through your thumb impression and 3 points of

information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to

naadi sastra.

 

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi

astrology mail me i will explain.

 

I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)

Thank you,

 

 

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Dear Chandra Shekhar and Friends

 

My comments on your following remarks;

 

I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-

Through your thumb impression

and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about

you according to naadi sastra.On this issue there was discussion with many Chiefs of Naadi centre in the conference in Pune on 14 Oct 2007.

 

The system of asking many Questions for reaching the correct leaf is creating great deal of suspicion in the minds of visitors. As it is, every one is skeptical about the prediction system and wishes to know the details as fast as possible. Your present method is time consuming too. If you could concentrate only on the names of say, father then mother and in the last the name of the self , that will reduce the time and build confidence in the visitor's' mind.Why can't you people adjust to the new method?Reply was that being a traditional system we can not suddenly change to your suggested method but as the situation demands we will change accordingly. But it may take time. Similarly many other suggestions for better and smooth running of centres were suggested . If any one wishes to know them I can put that on this forum.

Thus It is our duty to create awareness IN THEM. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0981901049, Pune. India.--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep wrote:Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeepRe: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 5:12 PM

 

Hi Chandra,You are on the dot with what happened at the Nadi centres. I believe, through these posts, it should be established whether certain nadi readers and nadi centers are genuine and action should be taken against those which are not. I believe the two centres, I had been to are completely fake. However, the reason I went to one of the centres (Nallakunta) is due to one of the encouraging messages, I saw on this post.

Still, is there any centre in Hyderabad, which is genuine?Thanks.SudeepOn Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.

They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi

centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will

get angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle

game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

 

 

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will ask

Is your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then

candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then

it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa

Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa

suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,

Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

 

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?

Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother

name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its

end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu

name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray an,venkatesan, if candidate will agree for

vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm

blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will

start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like

that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your

mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

 

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are

1. Candidate mother's name start s with su

2 ends with thi

3.one word only

4.three letters only

 

I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence

or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is

enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

 

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings,

your year of birth, month of birth, father name.

At the final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way

your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and

they will tell we found your leaf.

 

I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or

use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.

There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.

From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short,

lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our

thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.

 

I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa

blaas.

Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name,

and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will come right?

see my name chandra sekhar

and my date of birth ............ ......

and my father name........ .........

Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it

matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that

is my leaf right?

 

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters,

and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions

regarding my family.

 

Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.

naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.

But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your

birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may

be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)

 

if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they

will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your

situations.

may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no

I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical

way.

 

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.(

I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related

to Siva or Vishnu)

 

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and

economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.

 

I think no need to ask any one is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader

and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is

the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth

and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give

any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression

and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about

you according to naadi sastra.

 

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi

astrology mail me i will explain.

 

I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)

Thank you,

 

 

 

 

 

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is it possible to get the orignial nadi leaves, i know the question sounds stupid, iam a practicing astrologer and have been searching for nadi astrology clues since a decade. Any hint will be helpful.Is there any place on this planet where the orginal agastiya nadi or bhrigu nadi available for reference, no matter what language it may be.

RegardsOn Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:16 AM, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

even i have been to ramanthapur. to put it brief, i think they should ve 2 sets of leaves (if not 1 that has the entire life). 1 set has the base details like dob, name, father's name, mom's name, sibling's name, spouse's name etc.,

 

they got the first part right. i mean all the names in my family are very unique and very difficult to decipher. they had it all right. but when it came down to reading my life details, he went in for about 1.5 hrs and came down with a natal chart!!!!!! just like any other astrolgoer and looked at the chart and told me the predictions like if that, then this, else this!!!!

 

if our life has been written on a leaf already, how can it have ifs and buts??? :) so they are missing the second set of leaves in ramanthapur atleast, leaves which tell the details of this janma. and they are cheating clients just by making natal charts and predicting from those.

--- On Wed, 6/3/09, aru kum <haiaru123 wrote:

aru kum <haiaru123Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 11:39 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HI Chandrashekar,

 

Nice to see your mail.

 

I also faced same issue. I went to tambaram, Thiru balasubramaniyam.

 

In the same way they also asked me. After getting my leaf, he went down for 10 min. Then he told about my place of planets is it matching with my horoscope?

 

I also thought once he know the DOB, anybody can determine the planet positions.

But he has not given which chapter I requested. Instead he only selected few chapters and given the reading. So I am also confused wheather it is worth to go....

 

So only once I went to nadi astrology and could not believe much on this. Planning to visit Chennai reader near Philip - as lot of people in this forum are telling he is gunine.

 

But I am re-thinking. Is ther any really genuine reader? Can pls somebody tellArun

 

--- On Tue, 2/6/09, chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ > wrote:

chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ >Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

Tuesday, 2 June, 2009, 6:34 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

 

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will askIs your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray

an,venkatesan, if candidate will agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are 1. Candidate mother's name start s with su2 ends with thi3.one word only4.three letters only I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.At the

final stage they will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and they will tell we found your leaf.I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa blaas.Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name, and my date of birth and my name.

With these three

combination s no one will come right?see my name chandra sekhar and my date of birth ............ ......and my father name........ .........Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that is my leaf right?

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions regarding my family.Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my

opinion)if you know your birth details try to go for one good astrologist  ,they will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your situations.may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical way.

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related to Siva or Vishnu)

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.I think no need to ask any one  is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way

questions then he is a good reader and that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information.

 

Through your thumb impression and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to naadi sastra.

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi astrology mail me i will explain.  I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)Thank you,

 

 

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Dear Sudeep,

I have been reading your posts in the Forum and I think time has come to share some of my experience with the members for after all this is one of the objectives of this Forum. I had when I joined the forum committed that I would share my long experience with Naadi predictions for the guidance and benefit of the members .I have been visiting Nadi centres located in various places in the country for more than twenty -two years with mixed results, sometimes rubbish and sometimes simply mind boggling.

Apart from Nallakunta and Ramanthapur Centres, I visited two more naadi centres- one in Picket,Sec'bad and the other in Yousufguda where I resided. The Yousufguda centre experience was really stunning so far as the past events were concerned. The naadi reader while checking out and confirming the identity of my wife told her husband's name ie my name , her father's name and her mother's name.without beating around the bush.Then he said that my wife was the offspring of her father's first wife and that she has one elder brother and one younger brother.Amazingly true and confirmed her unique identity in the world ! ( Now, let somebody who is good at logic work out the no. of questions that would be required and the time in hours to touch upon these events for the purpose of identification) .But as regards future events/ predictions they were all off the mark! Not a single event came to pass. Not only that the Naadi

even failed to warn that very soon my wife would be battling for her life in ICU with ventilators and other life support systems for four days as she suffered from acute COPD attack.. Before this traumatic experience she was hospitalised for stenting procedure on her kidney- renal artery which was blocked.Both these procedures cost me a bomb and caused considerable anxiety and tension.Now, tell me how do I assess this Naadi Centre ? In what way I was benefited ? Can I blame the Naadi reader who is also destined to be there for his livelihood and not for doing any charitable /social work ? He has nothing whatsoever to do with what reading you get from him, good-bad-ugly. You get only what you are destined to get from him and pay for it.I may also mention here that not a single Naadi reader ever told me that that I would suffer from heart attack and would be operated upon for the same. Now should I blame all the naadi readers whom I met ? This blame

game is therefore quite unnecessary and meaningless.If at all you want to blame somebody or something you blame it on to your fate or destiny which took you to the Naadi Centre.May be there is lesson to be learnt.like I have been learning for more than 22 years in this Naadi business.But it is an amazing experience one should not miss in life regardless whether it helps or not. Nevertheless, there are some lucky persons in the Forum like W/Cdr Shashikant Oak saheb who probably got much more mileage from Naadi than others. It is indeed a dicey business !

We would also do well to remember that like any other profession Naadi is also not without its quota of black sheep and if people are fooled they have only their luck to blame !

I have over the years collected a good deal of experience and information which can fill a book but today in my declining years I have neither the energy nor the stamina to undertake this exercise. I will however post mails on the subject as and when I am inclined.

Wishing you best of luck,

VBDeshmukh.--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep wrote:

Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeepRe: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 5:12 PM

 

 

Hi Chandra,You are on the dot with what happened at the Nadi centres. I believe, through these posts, it should be established whether certain nadi readers and nadi centers are genuine and action should be taken against those which are not. I believe the two centres, I had been to are completely fake. However, the reason I went to one of the centres (Nallakunta) is due to one of the encouraging messages, I saw on this post. Still, is there any centre in Hyderabad, which is genuine?Thanks.Sudeep

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get angry)They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will askIs your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its end with thi,Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray an,venkatesan, if

candidate will agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are 1. Candidate mother's name start s with su2 ends with thi3.one word only4.three letters only I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.At the final stage they

will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and they will tell we found your leaf.I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or use computer through your date of birth only.Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa blaas.Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name, and my date of birth and my name.With these three combination s no one will

come right?see my name chandra sekhar and my date of birth ............ ......and my father name........ .........Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that is my leaf right?Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions regarding my family.Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may be months or years.and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)if you know your

birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your situations.may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical way.If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related to Siva or Vishnu)I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.I think no need to ask any one is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader and

that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to naadi sastra.If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi astrology mail me i will explain. I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)Thank you,

 

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Respected mr. VB Deshmukh

                                               I read ur nadi experience . on ur paart u r doing a great service to members by sharing ur exp.

Kindly tell abt.these -

1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?

2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?

3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam ?

4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?

5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ? Did you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision praved to be suicidal?

6. How many remedies were u told to do in last 22 years ? How many did u actually do? I mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?

7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?

8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers ?

 

Your experience will be helpful to all.

I wish you all the best .

 

Nitin

 

 

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Dear Mr. Nitin,

 

I wish to state here my own experience although your post is targeted for Mr.

Deshmuk.

 

Respected mr. VB Deshmukh

 

1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?

 

a: off 4 I saw all are totally 50% correct on their predicted points (happended

50%)

 

2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?

 

a: if we ask 5 points in that 2/3 would happen

 

3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam?

 

a:yes

 

4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?

 

a: for few points he changed

 

5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ? Did

you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision praved to

be suicidal?

 

a: A strong no. I didn't take important decisions based on naadis as I use them

as guidance and a guide can be utilised just like a Torch in a dark night.

 

6. How many remedies were u told to do in years ? How many did u actually do? I

mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?

 

a: each and every time I see a prasanna naadi or a regular nadi (once), in that

for sure there was atleast one remedy except in my marriage, employment

chapters) and I did them except for last time. When I went to Karunakaran of

Sukar naadi, he was giving a list of so called remedies and and also his reading

is completely wrong in all context as a prasannam chapter written in leafs won't

come in the way he read and it was like that Big kanchipuram fellow I exposed

here some months ago. This fellow was keen only on money via so called remedies.

 

7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?

 

a:Only in general & santhi chapters I encountered past life points and not in

prasanam chapters.

 

8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers ?

 

a:No read that chapter.

 

I posted my relies as I found your questions were relevant to be answered by

others as I too have some personal experience on your asked points.

 

Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer

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I too would like to state my experience at Ramanthapur center (I was listening to the cassette recording again).

 

 

My name (which is very uncommon), DOB, Parent's name, spouse's name, including sibling details (sibling's kids etc) were told correct.

Reader took more than 1.5 hrs time to come up with the readings (I had a tough time waiting).

The cassette has the natal chart analysis (planetary positions) and very very strangely and surprisingly, all the positions mentioned by the reader doesnt indicate what my natal chart is. (for example, he said Venus is in my 2nd second, whereas my current computer generated natal chart (and the charts the astrologers produced too) has Ve in 8th house and same goes with other planets and houses.

The above is still a question to me - as to how the reader came up with a totally different chart, but still could say what other mundane astrologers say about my chart!!

There were many contradictory stuff like for example, you have so many yogas, still you will suffer, and again said you have all those yogas and you will flourish in those areas - contradictory.

He is a tamil guy and I am a telugu, and his Telugu is really bad, so there could be a chance he wasnt conveying properly what he wanted to convey, cuz of the language barrier.

I have yet to see if his predictions come true or not.

But the part where he gave the names of my family and told my sibling and his kids is amazing.

In total, I am perplexed as to they are doing mundane astrology for the prediction part (even if we think so, the natal chart seems to be entirely different from my present natal chart) or he has read the leaves. Though he is read in Tamil some stanzas (like reading from leaves/text), still I doubt he used the natal chart for predictions - not sure about that.

I will let the group know if the predictions come true, it will take a couple of years to happen. Also, he had said that Saturn phase will be coming in 2.5 yrs, which again doesnt go with my Vimshottari Dasha (where Saturn MahaDasha is already over). - so on what basis he had said all those is perplexing.

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

 

 

 

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rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477 Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:00 PM

 

 

Dear Mr. Nitin,I wish to state here my own experience although your post is targeted for Mr. Deshmuk. Respected mr. VB Deshmukh1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?a: off 4 I saw all are totally 50% correct on their predicted points (happended 50%)2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?a: if we ask 5 points in that 2/3 would happen3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam?a:yes4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?a: for few points he changed5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ? Did you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision praved to be suicidal?a: A strong no. I didn't take important decisions based on naadis as I use them as guidance and a guide can be utilised just like a Torch in a

dark night. 6. How many remedies were u told to do in years ? How many did u actually do? I mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?a: each and every time I see a prasanna naadi or a regular nadi (once), in that for sure there was atleast one remedy except in my marriage, employment chapters) and I did them except for last time. When I went to Karunakaran of Sukar naadi, he was giving a list of so called remedies and and also his reading is completely wrong in all context as a prasannam chapter written in leafs won't come in the way he read and it was like that Big kanchipuram fellow I exposed here some months ago. This fellow was keen only on money via so called remedies.7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?a:Only in general & santhi chapters I encountered past life points and not in prasanam chapters.8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers

?a:No read that chapter.I posted my relies as I found your questions were relevant to be answered by others as I too have some personal experience on your asked points. Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer

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Mr. Dhinakar

                    thank you for your reply. I hope others also will contribute their experience . it will help all.

 

But about mr Karunakaran of sughar nadi , i know that he is extremely famous . How come he has started wrong practice ?

Or may be the Sughar nadi is read in detail in prashana kanda , with many remedies . And he charges very high , i know that .

 

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Dear VB Deshmukh (and other fellow members),Thanks for taking time to replying to my post. You have suggested that your past and present were accurately predicted by the Nadi readers you visited. However, you can see from my first experience from Nadi, I have had my future predictions coming true ( Nadi readings that I had taken 11 years back and what happened until now have been true). It is my bad luck that I lost track of the reader. The reader in Hyderabad at that point was so genuine that he said he did not have my leaf and went to v-koil to get it . I believe the reader's name was Arvind Swamy in Hyderabad. Would anyone know if such a reader is still based here?

 I'm a firm believer in Nadi!!! Recently - however I have met readers, who are not genuine in letting me know that they either dont have my leaf or  are just genuinely fake. I went to Ramantapur and Nallakunta centres in quest of genuine Nadi reading. I'm inclined to try Khairtabad branch as well, before I go to v-koil. See, there are so many discrepancies in the predictions of these centres that I do not have a reference point for my near future, forget the past and present.

So in essence - I have the following specific questions regarding a genuine Nadi Reader in Hyderabad:-  who does not exhaust all possible combinations of questions to get all your details - past and present?

- whose most future predictions from the leaves have been  true?- Who cares for the  benefit of Nadi readings than the money involved!!! I understand this differs from the nadi centres to the people who go to get the readings. Assuming that quite a few people have been to these centres in Hyderabad, I think a polling based on these questions would help in determining a) genuine reader b) genuine nadi centre.

Looking forward to replies from all the Nadi group people who have had experience in Hyderabad!Thank you in advance...Regards,SudeepOn Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:17 AM, <deshmukhv wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I have been reading your posts in the Forum and I think time has come to share some of my experience with the members for after all this is one of the objectives of this Forum. I had when I joined the forum committed that I would share my long experience with Naadi predictions for the guidance and benefit of the members .I have been visiting Nadi centres located in various places in the country for more than twenty -two years with mixed results, sometimes rubbish and sometimes simply mind boggling.

Apart from Nallakunta and Ramanthapur Centres, I visited two more naadi centres- one in Picket,Sec'bad and the other in Yousufguda where I resided. The Yousufguda centre experience was really stunning so far as the past events were concerned. The naadi reader while checking out and confirming the identity of my wife told her husband's name ie my name , her father's name and her mother's name.without beating around the bush.Then he said that my wife was the offspring of her father's first wife and that she has one elder brother and one younger brother.Amazingly true and confirmed her unique identity in the world ! ( Now, let somebody who is good at logic work out the no. of questions that would be required and the time in hours to touch upon these events for the purpose of identification)  .But as regards future events/ predictions  they  were all off the mark!  Not a single event came to pass. Not only that the Naadi

even failed to warn that very soon my wife would be battling for her life in ICU with ventilators and other life support systems for four days as she suffered from acute COPD attack.. Before this traumatic experience she was hospitalised for stenting procedure on her kidney- renal artery which was blocked.Both these procedures cost me a bomb and caused considerable anxiety and tension.Now, tell me how do I assess this Naadi Centre ? In what way I was benefited ? Can I blame the Naadi reader who is also destined to be there for his livelihood and not for doing any charitable /social work ? He has nothing whatsoever to do with what reading you get from him, good-bad-ugly. You get only what you are destined to get from him and pay for it.I may also mention here that not a single Naadi reader ever told me that that I would suffer from heart attack and would be operated upon for the same. Now should I blame all the naadi readers whom I met ? This blame

game is therefore quite unnecessary  and meaningless.If at all you want to blame somebody or something you blame it on to your fate or destiny which took you to the Naadi Centre.May be there is lesson to be learnt.like I have been learning for more than 22 years in this Naadi business.But it is an amazing experience one should not miss in life regardless whether it helps or not. Nevertheless, there are some lucky persons in the Forum like W/Cdr Shashikant Oak saheb who probably got  much more mileage from Naadi  than others. It is indeed a dicey business !

We would also do well to remember that like any other profession Naadi is also not without its quota of black sheep and if people are fooled they have only their luck to blame !

I have over the years collected a good deal of experience and information which can fill a book but today in my declining years I have neither the energy nor the stamina to undertake this exercise. I will however post mails on the subject as and when I am inclined.

Wishing you best of luck,

VBDeshmukh.--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep wrote:

Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeepRe: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

Date: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 5:12 PM

 

 

Hi Chandra,You are on the dot with what happened at the Nadi centres. I believe, through these posts, it should be established whether certain nadi readers and nadi centers are genuine and action should be taken against those which are not. I believe the two centres, I had been to are completely fake. However, the reason I went to one of the centres (Nallakunta) is due to one of the encouraging messages, I saw on this post.

Still, is there any centre in Hyderabad, which is genuine?Thanks.Sudeep

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will askIs your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray an,venkatesan, if

candidate will agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are 1. Candidate mother's name start s with su2 ends with thi3.one word only4.three letters only I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.At the final stage they

will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and they will tell we found your leaf.I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa blaas.Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name, and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will

come right?see my name chandra sekhar and my date of birth ............ ......and my father name........ .........Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that is my leaf right?

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions regarding my family.Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)if you know your

birth details try to go for one good astrologist  ,they will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your situations.may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical way.

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related to Siva or Vishnu)

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.I think no need to ask any one  is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader and

that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to naadi sastra.

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi astrology mail me i will explain.  I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)Thank you,

 

 

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Hi Serenity,Can you let me know the name of the Nadi Reader? Also in 1.5 hours, did he keep asking you questions like:- Does your mother's name start with alphabet ?Some irrelevant questions.

- Does it end with? a.b.c.d,....(until you say yes)Some irrelevant questions/- Is it some " x " number of letters?Did he convey even one detail - which you did not even mention regarding names, date of birth, profession ...etc (only to identify your leaf) ?

The reader I had was one Mr. Devendra.Thanks!On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:13 AM, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too  would like to state my experience at Ramanthapur center (I was listening to the cassette recording again).

 

 

My name (which is very uncommon), DOB, Parent's name, spouse's name, including sibling details (sibling's kids etc) were told correct.

Reader took more than 1.5 hrs time to come up with the readings (I had a tough time waiting).

The cassette has the natal chart analysis (planetary positions) and very very strangely and surprisingly, all the positions mentioned by the reader doesnt indicate what my natal chart is. (for example, he said Venus is in my 2nd second, whereas my current computer generated natal chart (and the charts the astrologers produced too) has Ve in 8th house and same goes with other planets and houses.

The above is still a question to me - as to how the reader came up with a totally different chart, but still could say what other mundane astrologers say about my chart!!

There were many contradictory stuff like for example, you have so many yogas, still you will suffer, and again said you have all those yogas and you will flourish in those areas - contradictory.

He is a tamil guy and I am a telugu, and his Telugu is really bad, so there could be a chance he wasnt conveying properly what he wanted to convey, cuz of the language barrier.

I have yet to see if his predictions come true or not.

But the part where he gave the names of my family and told my sibling and his kids is amazing.

In total, I am perplexed as to they are doing mundane astrology for the prediction part (even if we think so, the natal chart seems to be entirely different from my present natal chart) or he has read the leaves. Though he is read in Tamil some stanzas (like reading from leaves/text), still I doubt he used the natal chart for predictions - not sure about that.

I will let the group know if the predictions come true, it will take a couple of years to happen. Also, he had said that Saturn phase will be coming in 2.5 yrs, which again doesnt go with my Vimshottari Dasha (where Saturn MahaDasha is already over). - so on what basis he had said all those is perplexing.

 

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477 wrote:

rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477 Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:00 PM

 

 

Dear Mr. Nitin,I wish to state here my own experience although your post is targeted for Mr. Deshmuk. Respected mr. VB Deshmukh1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?a: off 4 I saw all are totally 50% correct on their predicted points (happended 50%)

2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?a: if we ask 5 points in that 2/3 would happen3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam?a:yes

4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?a: for few points he changed5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ? Did you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision praved to be suicidal?

a: A strong no. I didn't take important decisions based on naadis as I use them as guidance and a guide can be utilised just like a Torch in a

dark night. 6. How many remedies were u told to do in years ? How many did u actually do? I mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?a: each and every time I see a prasanna naadi or a regular nadi (once), in that for sure there was atleast one remedy except in my marriage, employment chapters) and I did them except for last time. When I went to Karunakaran of Sukar naadi, he was giving a list of so called remedies and and also his reading is completely wrong in all context as a prasannam chapter written in leafs won't come in the way he read and it was like that Big kanchipuram fellow I exposed here some months ago. This fellow was keen only on money via so called remedies.

7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?a:Only in general & santhi chapters I encountered past life points and not in prasanam chapters.8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers

?a:No read that chapter.I posted my relies as I found your questions were relevant to be answered by others as I too have some personal experience on your asked points. Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer

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Dear Sudeep, all other friends and specially to Shri. VB Deshmukh Sir,All in one sentence:-You get only what you are destined to get from him and pay for it.VB sir,Your experience on Predictive methods including Naadi astrology i enormous, I am bachha in this field.Kindly keep guiding us.Hope for best of health. Wing Commander Shashikant Oak. Mo No: 0981901049, Pune. India.Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep Sent: Tuesday, 16 June, 2009 12:42:21 AMRe: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

 

Dear VB Deshmukh (and other fellow members),Thanks for taking time to replying to my post. You have suggested that your past and present were accurately predicted by the Nadi readers you visited. However, you can see from my first experience from Nadi, I have had my future predictions coming true ( Nadi readings that I had taken 11 years back and what happened until now have been true). It is my bad luck that I lost track of the reader. The reader in Hyderabad at that point was so genuine that he said he did not have my leaf and went to v-koil to get it . I believe the reader's name was Arvind Swamy in Hyderabad. Would anyone know if such a reader is still based here?

I'm a firm believer in Nadi!!! Recently - however I have met readers, who are not genuine in letting me know that they either dont have my leaf or are just genuinely fake. I went to Ramantapur and Nallakunta centres in quest of genuine Nadi reading. I'm inclined to try Khairtabad branch as well, before I go to v-koil. See, there are so many discrepancies in the predictions of these centres that I do not have a reference point for my near future, forget the past and present.

So in essence - I have the following specific questions regarding a genuine Nadi Reader in Hyderabad:- who does not exhaust all possible combinations of questions to get all your details - past and present?

- whose most future predictions from the leaves have been true?- Who cares for the benefit of Nadi readings than the money involved!!! I understand this differs from the nadi centres to the people who go to get the readings. Assuming that quite a few people have been to these centres in Hyderabad, I think a polling based on these questions would help in determining a) genuine reader b) genuine nadi centre.

Looking forward to replies from all the Nadi group people who have had experience in Hyderabad!Thank you in advance...Regards,SudeepOn Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:17 AM, <deshmukhv (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I have been reading your posts in the Forum and I think time has come to share some of my experience with the members for after all this is one of the objectives of this Forum. I had when I joined the forum committed that I would share my long experience with Naadi predictions for the guidance and benefit of the members .I have been visiting Nadi centres located in various places in the country for more than twenty -two years with mixed results, sometimes rubbish and sometimes simply mind boggling.

Apart from Nallakunta and Ramanthapur Centres, I visited two more naadi centres- one in Picket,Sec'bad and the other in Yousufguda where I resided. The Yousufguda centre experience was really stunning so far as the past events were concerned. The naadi reader while checking out and confirming the identity of my wife told her husband's name ie my name , her father's name and her mother's name.without beating around the bush.Then he said that my wife was the offspring of her father's first wife and that she has one elder brother and one younger brother.Amazingly true and confirmed her unique identity in the world ! ( Now, let somebody who is good at logic work out the no. of questions that would be required and the time in hours to touch upon these events for the purpose of identification) .But as regards future events/ predictions they were all off the mark! Not a single event came to pass. Not only that the Naadi

even failed to warn that very soon my wife would be battling for her life in ICU with ventilators and other life support systems for four days as she suffered from acute COPD attack.. Before this traumatic experience she was hospitalised for stenting procedure on her kidney- renal artery which was blocked.Both these procedures cost me a bomb and caused considerable anxiety and tension.Now, tell me how do I assess this Naadi Centre ? In what way I was benefited ? Can I blame the Naadi reader who is also destined to be there for his livelihood and not for doing any charitable /social work ? He has nothing whatsoever to do with what reading you get from him, good-bad-ugly. You get only what you are destined to get from him and pay for it.I may also mention here that not a single Naadi reader ever told me that that I would suffer from heart attack and would be operated upon for the same. Now should I blame all the naadi readers whom I met ? This blame

game is therefore quite unnecessary and meaningless. If at all you want to blame somebody or something you blame it on to your fate or destiny which took you to the Naadi Centre.May be there is lesson to be learnt.like I have been learning for more than 22 years in this Naadi business.But it is an amazing experience one should not miss in life regardless whether it helps or not. Nevertheless, there are some lucky persons in the Forum like W/Cdr Shashikant Oak saheb who probably got much more mileage from Naadi than others. It is indeed a dicey business !

We would also do well to remember that like any other profession Naadi is also not without its quota of black sheep and if people are fooled they have only their luck to blame !

I have over the years collected a good deal of experience and information which can fill a book but today in my declining years I have neither the energy nor the stamina to undertake this exercise. I will however post mails on the subject as and when I am inclined.

Wishing you best of luck,

VBDeshmukh.--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 5:12 PM

 

 

Hi Chandra,You are on the dot with what happened at the Nadi centres. I believe, through these posts, it should be established whether certain nadi readers and nadi centers are genuine and action should be taken against those which are not. I believe the two centres, I had been to are completely fake. However, the reason I went to one of the centres (Nallakunta) is due to one of the encouraging messages, I saw on this post.

Still, is there any centre in Hyderabad, which is genuine?Thanks.Sudeep

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:04 AM, chandra chandra <chandras_csk@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sudeep,

I am chandra sekhar.i read your mail. You are exactly right what you told.They are just cheating the people, not only one person, every one in naadi centers any where even vaideeswarankovil place.( may be so many persons will get angry)

They are asking questions in a logical way and they are playing words puzzle game only.They will get answers from you only in a logical way.

For example one person mother's name sumathi ,they will askIs your mother name start with ra,sa,va,su, sa,ma like that...then candidate will yeah its start with su.if candidate will not say su,then it will take more time (hahahahahaha) to identify your leaf.

then reader will go for another leaf and will say Omm blaaa blaa blaa Are you married,then candidate will tell no,and again omm blaa blaa blaa suddenly they will ask do u have only one sister,Candidate answer yes with glowing face ( if he has only one sister)

Then again blaa blaa is your mother name only one word or two words?Candidate will tell one word only, may be immediate question is your mother name ends with pa,ma,tha,thi, thu like that. candidate will tell yeah its end with thi,

Again omm blaa blaa blaa he will come to fathers name, is your father name Vishnu name?( to decide srinivas,satyanaray an,venkatesan, if

candidate will agree for vishnu name)if candidate tell no, then reader will ask after a few omm blaa blaa blaa is your father name siva related? if yes reader will start again questions like is your father name start with sa,shi,so like that, after a few blaa blaa blaa again he will come to mothers name ,is your mother name 3 letters? Candidate will tell yes.

So finally the hints of candidate mother’s name are 1. Candidate mother's name start s with su2 ends with thi3.one word only4.three letters only I think to tell candidate mother's name no need of any leaf or too much intelligence or supernatural powers. just if you know the names list and good memory that is enough to tell candidate mothers name is sumathi.

Like this way they will confirm each and every thing of your number of siblings, your year of birth, month of birth, father name.At the final stage they

will finalize and they will read one by one in fast way your father name, mother name, date of birth, number of sisters, brothers and they will tell we found your leaf.I hope in all naadi centers one astrologer is there, he will do calculations or use computer through your date of birth only.

Some times they will come directly to your month of birth. or star.There are specific properties are there for birth star and raasi.From that information astrologers can tell persons body measures like tall, short, lean, and fatty, like that. That subject is such a big ocean.

They will not do any thing with our thumb impression .that is just one way of attraction to naadi astrology.I went to naadi center and requested him after some times of Omm blaa blaa blaas.Don’t waste your time and energy I will give some information like my father name, and my date of birth and my name.

With these three combination s no one will

come right?see my name chandra sekhar and my date of birth ............ ......and my father name........ .........Check all patras and in any leaf showing my name and check date of birth, if it matches and check father name, where 3 hints exactly mentioned in any leaf that is my leaf right?

Then from that leaf tell me my place of birth, mother name, time of birth, sisters, and brothers details with out mismatching and don't ask me any questions regarding my family.Like that I requested. hahahaha the reader didn't agree for that.

I am sure; there is no reader to agree in this way.naadi astrology may be one of good astrology subject.But the readers will tell through your birth details only. if you know your birth details you will get your leaf very fast. Otherwise it will take time may be months or years.

and they have good contacts from one center to another center ( my opinion)if you know your

birth details try to go for one good astrologist ,they will draw some charts and do some calculations .may be they will explain your situations.may be in this group someone will think I am against to naadi astrology ,no I am not, ,I just explained how they are knowing our birth details in a logical way.

If any reader ,reading leaf in a different way please tell me I will go there.( I hope every reader will start with omm blaa blaa is your father name related to Siva or Vishnu)

I heard some other locations depends on the candidate hurry or worry and economical situation they are charging thousands of rupees, its too bad.I think no need to ask any one is Chennai center good? Bangalore center good? Delhi centers good?

If any reader, reading without logical way questions then he is a good reader and

that is good center. If they should all questions like this then what is the use of your thumb impression? You can give 3 details your name, date of birth and ask them for remaining details with out choices and exact one. Don’t give any details and no need to discuss on any information.

Through your thumb impression and 3 points of information if they get leaf, you will get all details about you according to naadi sastra.

If any one need still depth explanation and what is the logic in naadi astrology mail me i will explain. I am expecting may be Mr.Oak will raise questions :-)Thank you,

 

 

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15 June 2009

 

Dear Sir

 

1.

Are you born around Sun set time?

2.

Is your computer generated chart gives your Lagna as Aries?

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

On

Behalf Of serenity forever

Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:13 AM

 

Re: Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and

Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too would like to state my experience at

Ramanthapur center (I was listening to the cassette recording again).

 

 

 

 

 

My name (which is very uncommon), DOB,

Parent's name, spouse's name, including sibling details (sibling's kids

etc) were told correct.

Reader took more than 1.5 hrs time to come

up with the readings (I had a tough time waiting).

The cassette has the natal chart analysis

(planetary positions) and very very strangely and surprisingly, all the

positions mentioned by the reader doesnt indicate what my natal chart

is. (for example, he said Venus is in my 2nd second, whereas my current

computer generated natal chart (and the charts the astrologers produced

too) has Ve in 8th house and same goes with other planets and houses.

The above is still a question to me - as

to how the reader came up with a totally different chart, but still

could say what other mundane astrologers say about my chart!!

There were many contradictory stuff like

for example, you have so many yogas, still you will suffer, and again

said you have all those yogas and you will flourish in those areas -

contradictory.

He is a tamil guy and I am a telugu, and

his Telugu is really bad, so there could be a chance he wasnt conveying

properly what he wanted to convey, cuz of the language barrier.

I have yet to see if his predictions come

true or not.

But the part where he gave the names of my

family and told my sibling and his kids is amazing.

In total, I am perplexed as to they are

doing mundane astrology for the prediction part (even if we think so,

the natal chart seems to be entirely different from my present natal

chart) or he has read the leaves. Though he is read in Tamil some

stanzas (like reading from leaves/text), still I doubt he used the natal

chart for predictions - not sure about that.

I will let the group know if the

predictions come true, it will take a couple of years to happen. Also,

he had said that Saturn phase will be coming in 2.5 yrs, which again

doesnt go with my Vimshottari Dasha (where Saturn MahaDasha is already

over). - so on what basis he had said all those is perplexing.

 

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Serenity.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477

wrote:

 

 

 

rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477

Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta

centres in Hyderabad...

 

Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:00 PM

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Nitin,

 

I wish to state here my own experience although your post is targeted for Mr.

Deshmuk.

 

Respected mr. VB Deshmukh

 

1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?

 

a: off 4 I saw all are totally 50% correct on their predicted points

(happended 50%)

 

2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?

 

a: if we ask 5 points in that 2/3 would happen

 

3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam?

 

a:yes

 

4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?

 

a: for few points he changed

 

5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ?

Did you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision

praved to be suicidal?

 

a: A strong no. I didn't take important decisions based on naadis as I use

them as guidance and a guide can be utilised just like a Torch in a dark

night.

 

6. How many remedies were u told to do in years ? How many did u actually do?

I mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?

 

a: each and every time I see a prasanna naadi or a regular nadi (once), in

that for sure there was atleast one remedy except in my marriage, employment

chapters) and I did them except for last time. When I went to Karunakaran of

Sukar naadi, he was giving a list of so called remedies and and also his

reading is completely wrong in all context as a prasannam chapter written in

leafs won't come in the way he read and it was like that Big kanchipuram

fellow I exposed here some months ago. This fellow was keen only on money via

so called remedies.

 

7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?

 

a:Only in general & santhi chapters I encountered past life points and not

in prasanam chapters.

 

8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers ?

 

a:No read that chapter.

 

I posted my relies as I found your questions were relevant to be answered by

others as I too have some personal experience on your asked points.

 

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Mr. Nitin thanks for your post. Some years back in my scrutiny of past posts

here in this forum, I saw some posts on that gentleman karunakaran. They too

were on his cheating attitude.

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Dear S

I am curious to see the chart given by the Naadi Reader. From the planetary positions it is not difficult to find the month and year as per the Gregorian Calendar we all use in our official and civil work. We can also know the date of birth if planetary positions are given with degrees especially the Sun.. From the House position of the Sun in the chart we can know the time of birth within two hours and from the degree,sign and house of Moon and Ascendant we can further refine the time.Once I do that I will cross-check my findings with you for further examination..

Pl. do not send me any other details now.

Let us see what's what.

Regds.

VBDeshmukh

 

--- On Mon, 15/6/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

serenity forever <serenity_forever4Re: Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 9:43 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too would like to state my experience at Ramanthapur center (I was listening to the cassette recording again).

 

 

My name (which is very uncommon), DOB, Parent's name, spouse's name, including sibling details (sibling's kids etc) were told correct.

Reader took more than 1.5 hrs time to come up with the readings (I had a tough time waiting).

The cassette has the natal chart analysis (planetary positions) and very very strangely and surprisingly, all the positions mentioned by the reader doesnt indicate what my natal chart is. (for example, he said Venus is in my 2nd second, whereas my current computer generated natal chart (and the charts the astrologers produced too) has Ve in 8th house and same goes with other planets and houses.

The above is still a question to me - as to how the reader came up with a totally different chart, but still could say what other mundane astrologers say about my chart!!

There were many contradictory stuff like for example, you have so many yogas, still you will suffer, and again said you have all those yogas and you will flourish in those areas - contradictory.

He is a tamil guy and I am a telugu, and his Telugu is really bad, so there could be a chance he wasnt conveying properly what he wanted to convey, cuz of the language barrier.

I have yet to see if his predictions come true or not.

But the part where he gave the names of my family and told my sibling and his kids is amazing.

In total, I am perplexed as to they are doing mundane astrology for the prediction part (even if we think so, the natal chart seems to be entirely different from my present natal chart) or he has read the leaves. Though he is read in Tamil some stanzas (like reading from leaves/text) , still I doubt he used the natal chart for predictions - not sure about that.

I will let the group know if the predictions come true, it will take a couple of years to happen. Also, he had said that Saturn phase will be coming in 2.5 yrs, which again doesnt go with my Vimshottari Dasha (where Saturn MahaDasha is already over). - so on what basis he had said all those is perplexing.

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477@ .co. in> wrote:

rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477@ .co. in> Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:00 PM

 

 

Dear Mr. Nitin,I wish to state here my own experience although your post is targeted for Mr. Deshmuk. Respected mr. VB Deshmukh1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?a: off 4 I saw all are totally 50% correct on their predicted points (happended 50%)2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?a: if we ask 5 points in that 2/3 would happen3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam?a:yes4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?a: for few points he changed5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ? Did you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision praved to be suicidal?a: A strong no. I didn't take important decisions based on naadis as I use them as guidance and a guide can be utilised just like a Torch in a

dark night. 6. How many remedies were u told to do in years ? How many did u actually do? I mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?a: each and every time I see a prasanna naadi or a regular nadi (once), in that for sure there was atleast one remedy except in my marriage, employment chapters) and I did them except for last time. When I went to Karunakaran of Sukar naadi, he was giving a list of so called remedies and and also his reading is completely wrong in all context as a prasannam chapter written in leafs won't come in the way he read and it was like that Big kanchipuram fellow I exposed here some months ago. This fellow was keen only on money via so called remedies.7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?a:Only in general & santhi chapters I encountered past life points and not in prasanam chapters..8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers

?a:No read that chapter.I posted my relies as I found your questions were relevant to be answered by others as I too have some personal experience on your asked points. Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer

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Hi Sudeep,

 

It's the Ramanthpur center (shiva nadi). Reader should be shiva guru swamy. And yes in the initial phase (After the thumb print), he did tell about my name, etc., (I have said that in my earlier post).

 

And actually he took 1.5 hrs (he asked myself and my cousin who accompanied me to wait outside) before he told the detailed stuff like predictions etc.,

 

He did ask all those q's like 'ur mom's name starts with...etc" and I dont see any wrong in those questions, just cuz they have a thumb impression doesnt mean they will have an exact leaf. there will be many nadis matching with that thumb, so they need to eliminate to get ur nadi.

 

Regards,

Serenity.--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeep wrote:

Sudeep Deshmukh <dsudeepRe: Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 12:51 AM

 

 

Hi Serenity,Can you let me know the name of the Nadi Reader? Also in 1.5 hours, did he keep asking you questions like:- Does your mother's name start with alphabet ?Some irrelevant questions.- Does it end with? a.b.c.d,.... (until you say yes)Some irrelevant questions/- Is it some "x" number of letters?Did he convey even one detail - which you did not even mention regarding names, date of birth, profession ...etc (only to identify your leaf) ?The reader I had was one Mr. Devendra.Thanks!

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:13 AM, serenity forever <serenity_forever4@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too would like to state my experience at Ramanthapur center (I was listening to the cassette recording again).

 

 

My name (which is very uncommon), DOB, Parent's name, spouse's name, including sibling details (sibling's kids etc) were told correct.

Reader took more than 1.5 hrs time to come up with the readings (I had a tough time waiting).

The cassette has the natal chart analysis (planetary positions) and very very strangely and surprisingly, all the positions mentioned by the reader doesnt indicate what my natal chart is. (for example, he said Venus is in my 2nd second, whereas my current computer generated natal chart (and the charts the astrologers produced too) has Ve in 8th house and same goes with other planets and houses.

The above is still a question to me - as to how the reader came up with a totally different chart, but still could say what other mundane astrologers say about my chart!!

There were many contradictory stuff like for example, you have so many yogas, still you will suffer, and again said you have all those yogas and you will flourish in those areas - contradictory.

He is a tamil guy and I am a telugu, and his Telugu is really bad, so there could be a chance he wasnt conveying properly what he wanted to convey, cuz of the language barrier.

I have yet to see if his predictions come true or not.

But the part where he gave the names of my family and told my sibling and his kids is amazing.

In total, I am perplexed as to they are doing mundane astrology for the prediction part (even if we think so, the natal chart seems to be entirely different from my present natal chart) or he has read the leaves. Though he is read in Tamil some stanzas (like reading from leaves/text) , still I doubt he used the natal chart for predictions - not sure about that.

I will let the group know if the predictions come true, it will take a couple of years to happen. Also, he had said that Saturn phase will be coming in 2.5 yrs, which again doesnt go with my Vimshottari Dasha (where Saturn MahaDasha is already over). - so on what basis he had said all those is perplexing.

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477@ .co. in> wrote:

rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477@ .co. in> Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:00 PM

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Nitin,I wish to state here my own experience although your post is targeted for Mr. Deshmuk. Respected mr. VB Deshmukh1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?a: off 4 I saw all are totally 50% correct on their predicted points (happended 50%)2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?a: if we ask 5 points in that 2/3 would happen3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam?a:yes4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?a: for few points he changed5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ? Did you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision praved to be suicidal?a: A strong no. I didn't take important decisions based on naadis as I use them as guidance and a guide can be utilised just like a Torch in a

dark night. 6. How many remedies were u told to do in years ? How many did u actually do? I mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?a: each and every time I see a prasanna naadi or a regular nadi (once), in that for sure there was atleast one remedy except in my marriage, employment chapters) and I did them except for last time. When I went to Karunakaran of Sukar naadi, he was giving a list of so called remedies and and also his reading is completely wrong in all context as a prasannam chapter written in leafs won't come in the way he read and it was like that Big kanchipuram fellow I exposed here some months ago. This fellow was keen only on money via so called remedies.7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?a:Only in general & santhi chapters I encountered past life points and not in prasanam chapters.8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers

?a:No read that chapter.I posted my relies as I found your questions were relevant to be answered by others as I too have some personal experience on your asked points. Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer

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Hello Sir,

 

I have re-checked the notebook they gave me. there is my natal chart in that book (in the very first page, which I overlooked before). And another surprise for me, the natal chart in the notebook given by the nadi reader almost matched with the one the astrologers produce (except for Me - in the chart I have got from various astrologers, Me is in 8th house whereas this natal chart given by nadi reader has Me in 7th house). But I am still surprised as to when I was listening to the cassette, why the reader has said different positions for the planets, like for example, in notebook (chart) has Ve in 8th house, but in the cassette he said Ve in 2nd house! (I believe Shukra is Sanskrit is Venus in English).

 

Regards,

Serenity.--- On Tue, 6/16/09, vbdeshmukh <deshmukhv wrote:

vbdeshmukh <deshmukhvRe: Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Cc: serenity_forever4Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 6:03 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Dear S

I am curious to see the chart given by the Naadi Reader. From the planetary positions it is not difficult to find the month and year as per the Gregorian Calendar we all use in our official and civil work. We can also know the date of birth if planetary positions are given with degrees especially the Sun.. From the House position of the Sun in the chart we can know the time of birth within two hours and from the degree,sign and house of Moon and Ascendant we can further refine the time.Once I do that I will cross-check my findings with you for further examination..

Pl. do not send me any other details now.

Let us see what's what.

Regds.

VBDeshmukh

 

--- On Mon, 15/6/09, serenity forever <serenity_forever4 wrote:

serenity forever <serenity_forever4Re: Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad... Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 9:43 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I too would like to state my experience at Ramanthapur center (I was listening to the cassette recording again).

 

 

My name (which is very uncommon), DOB, Parent's name, spouse's name, including sibling details (sibling's kids etc) were told correct.

Reader took more than 1.5 hrs time to come up with the readings (I had a tough time waiting).

The cassette has the natal chart analysis (planetary positions) and very very strangely and surprisingly, all the positions mentioned by the reader doesnt indicate what my natal chart is. (for example, he said Venus is in my 2nd second, whereas my current computer generated natal chart (and the charts the astrologers produced too) has Ve in 8th house and same goes with other planets and houses.

The above is still a question to me - as to how the reader came up with a totally different chart, but still could say what other mundane astrologers say about my chart!!

There were many contradictory stuff like for example, you have so many yogas, still you will suffer, and again said you have all those yogas and you will flourish in those areas - contradictory.

He is a tamil guy and I am a telugu, and his Telugu is really bad, so there could be a chance he wasnt conveying properly what he wanted to convey, cuz of the language barrier.

I have yet to see if his predictions come true or not.

But the part where he gave the names of my family and told my sibling and his kids is amazing.

In total, I am perplexed as to they are doing mundane astrology for the prediction part (even if we think so, the natal chart seems to be entirely different from my present natal chart) or he has read the leaves. Though he is read in Tamil some stanzas (like reading from leaves/text) , still I doubt he used the natal chart for predictions - not sure about that.

I will let the group know if the predictions come true, it will take a couple of years to happen. Also, he had said that Saturn phase will be coming in 2.5 yrs, which again doesnt go with my Vimshottari Dasha (where Saturn MahaDasha is already over). - so on what basis he had said all those is perplexing.

 

Regards,

Serenity.

 

 

 

 

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477@ .co. in> wrote:

rdhinakar4477 <rdhinakar4477@ .co. in> Re: My experience at Ramanthapur and Nallakunta centres in Hyderabad...Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:00 PM

 

 

Dear Mr. Nitin,I wish to state here my own experience although your post is targeted for Mr. Deshmuk. Respected mr. VB Deshmukh1. How was your experience abt. prashana kandam ?a: off 4 I saw all are totally 50% correct on their predicted points (happended 50%)2 please tell some incidences which were forecasted but did not happen ?a: if we ask 5 points in that 2/3 would happen3. When these incidences did not happen , did u ask in prashna kandam?a:yes4. did the nadi reader change his own prediction in subsequent reading ?a: for few points he changed5.Did you take some important life descision on basis of nadi prediction ? Did you have to suffer when the prediction went false and your discision praved to be suicidal?a: A strong no. I didn't take important decisions based on naadis as I use them as guidance and a guide can be utilised just like a Torch in a

dark night. 6. How many remedies were u told to do in years ? How many did u actually do? I mean what was the ratio of Pooja told and pooja done by you ?a: each and every time I see a prasanna naadi or a regular nadi (once), in that for sure there was atleast one remedy except in my marriage, employment chapters) and I did them except for last time. When I went to Karunakaran of Sukar naadi, he was giving a list of so called remedies and and also his reading is completely wrong in all context as a prasannam chapter written in leafs won't come in the way he read and it was like that Big kanchipuram fellow I exposed here some months ago. This fellow was keen only on money via so called remedies.7. How much was difference in past life told by different readers ?a:Only in general & santhi chapters I encountered past life points and not in prasanam chapters..8 Is there difference in next life told by diff. readers

?a:No read that chapter.I posted my relies as I found your questions were relevant to be answered by others as I too have some personal experience on your asked points. Dhinakar Rajaram Iyer

 

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