Is this some Bhooth / Preth Group - Mr. Mohanram

[Guest guest]

Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in silence. If

that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy id and

put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such jobs. He

can also create a id for him.

 

Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such things are

possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on these

things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

 

We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to reality.

 

This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's novel.

 

Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his identity so

that members can belive that they are two separate people and not one.

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Kishore:

 

Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking it....

 

Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming from my

id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he writes

from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to be

missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over another

fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in Trivandrum

while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it does

not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

 

Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by Somerset

Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel by R.L.

Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in august

groups like these.

 

Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait for the

truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

itself!

 

Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and applies

to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your level

of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is false.

 

There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold such a

view point, why do you believe astrology which does to such

concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is wider

than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research was

being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using Psi

energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are quoting

from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

superstitions!

 

Selective belief is the bane of our society.

 

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology , " kishore.bijlani "

<kishore.bijlani wrote:

>

>

> Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in silence. If

> that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy id and

> put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such jobs. He

> can also create a id for him.

>

> Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such things

are

> possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on these

> things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

>

> We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to reality.

>

> This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's novel.

>

> Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his identity so

> that members can belive that they are two separate people and not

one.

>

[Guest guest]

Honestly if Mohanraaamji comes out in the public it will be a great

relief for me because it will exonerate me.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Dear Shri. Kishore:

>

> Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking it....

>

> Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming from

my

> id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

> messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he writes

> from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

> also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to be

> missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over another

> fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in Trivandrum

> while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it

does

> not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

>

> Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by Somerset

> Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel by

R.L.

> Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in august

> groups like these.

>

> Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait for

the

> truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

> itself!

>

> Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and

applies

> to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your level

> of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is false.

>

> There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold such

a

> view point, why do you believe astrology which does to

such

> concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

> dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is

wider

> than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

> aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research was

> being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using Psi

> energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are

quoting

> from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

> superstitions!

>

> Selective belief is the bane of our society.

>

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology , " kishore.bijlani "

> <kishore.bijlani@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in silence.

If

> > that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy id

and

> > put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such jobs.

He

> > can also create a id for him.

> >

> > Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such things

> are

> > possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on

these

> > things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

> >

> > We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to reality.

> >

> > This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's novel.

> >

> > Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his identity

so

> > that members can belive that they are two separate people and not

> one.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

And he should appear with His Army Service No., Pensions details

etc.. sothat we can verify him with Indian Army Head Quarter, New

Delhi.

 

 

Why don't u ask him to write a mail from within the Group-

Moderator's computor, All the doubts will be subsidised.

 

See, The Game is Over.

 

One should not try to reincarnate him, there are serious pitfalls in

the story and in ur acceptance that he uses ur computor to post mails

to the group.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Honestly if Mohanraaamji comes out in the public it will be a great

> relief for me because it will exonerate me.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Kishore:

> >

> > Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking it....

> >

> > Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming from

> my

> > id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

> > messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he

writes

> > from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

> > also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to

be

> > missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over another

> > fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in

Trivandrum

> > while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it

> does

> > not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

> >

> > Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by

Somerset

> > Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel by

> R.L.

> > Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in august

> > groups like these.

> >

> > Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait for

> the

> > truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

> > itself!

> >

> > Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and

> applies

> > to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your

level

> > of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is false.

> >

> > There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold

such

> a

> > view point, why do you believe astrology which does to

> such

> > concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

> > dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is

> wider

> > than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

> > aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research was

> > being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using Psi

> > energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are

> quoting

> > from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

> > superstitions!

> >

> > Selective belief is the bane of our society.

> >

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " kishore.bijlani "

> > <kishore.bijlani@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in silence.

> If

> > > that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy id

> and

> > > put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such

jobs.

> He

> > > can also create a id for him.

> > >

> > > Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such

things

> > are

> > > possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on

> these

> > > things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

> > >

> > > We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to

reality.

> > >

> > > This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's novel.

> > >

> > > Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his

identity

> so

> > > that members can belive that they are two separate people and

not

> > one.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

 

Below is an introduction mail from Shri MohanRam in which he clearly

says he is using an assumed name!. Message # 68934 dt Dec.20, 2005 Sub :

Re. Vedik Astrology Courses sought.

 

Regards

Sarman

 

 

vedic astrology , mohan ram <mohanraaam wrote:

>

> Dear Shri.Shaw,

>

> I am posting this under my assumed name(mohanram is

> not my real name; it is actually the id under which

> Guruji used to chat with me and teach me astrology

> some years back. I added extra " a " s (mohanraaam

> instead of guruji's id mohanram which he no longer

> uses and assumed this id as a mark of respect to him).

> I am not a practising astrologer. I learnt astrology

> basically to understand myself, my inner motivations

> and to know the dynamics of others with whom I enter

> into relationships. I find that this works perfectly

> well for me. I also give free readings and also

> contribute my views from time to time in forums like

> these.

>

> I would consider the astrological course under my

> Guruji. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI to be one of the

> best for any level of student. His teaching will make

> even complicated concepts easy to grasp.

>

> But, there are certain disadvantages of a course under

> him:

>

> 1) Firstly, he does not award any degree or

> certificate to his students. He teaches astrology in

> the traditional gurukul type of system and feels

> certificate is only a paper and real knowledge should

> really shine no matter what....

>

> 2) Secondly, he may not easily accept a student under

> his guidance. Only if the students satisfy certain

> criteria he takes them in.

>

> But, from my experience, I can tell you, a 3 month

> beginner course in vedic astrology under him will

> really set you on the highroads of astrological

> achievement.

>

> Though he also trains some people through email

> communication, it is best to attend his classes

> personally at Chennai. If you are dedicated, you can

> learn the vital basics in even 1 month and progress to

> the advanced levels when you will no longer need the

> guidance of a teacher. So, try to make it convenient

> for you to attend his classes personally.

>

> You can contact Guruji directly in this regard at the

> following email addresses:

> dakshinastrologer or at the email id

> which panditji uses to post messages in this forum.

>

> Best wishes.

 

On 8/6/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Honestly if Mohanraaamji comes out in the public it will be a great

> relief for me because it will exonerate me.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> " dakshinastrologer "

>

> <dakshinastrologer wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Kishore:

> >

> > Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking it....

> >

> > Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming from

> my

> > id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

> > messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he writes

> > from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

> > also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to be

> > missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over another

> > fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in Trivandrum

> > while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it

> does

> > not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

> >

> > Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by Somerset

> > Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel by

> R.L.

> > Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in august

> > groups like these.

> >

> > Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait for

> the

> > truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

> > itself!

> >

> > Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and

> applies

> > to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your level

> > of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is false.

> >

> > There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold such

> a

> > view point, why do you believe astrology which does to

> such

> > concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

> > dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is

> wider

> > than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

> > aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research was

> > being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using Psi

> > energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are

> quoting

> > from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

> > superstitions!

> >

> > Selective belief is the bane of our society.

> >

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>,

> " kishore.bijlani "

> > <kishore.bijlani@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in silence.

> If

> > > that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy id

> and

> > > put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such jobs.

> He

> > > can also create a id for him.

> > >

> > > Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such things

> > are

> > > possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on

> these

> > > things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

> > >

> > > We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to reality.

> > >

> > > This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's novel.

> > >

> > > Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his identity

> so

> > > that members can belive that they are two separate people and not

> > one.

> > >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

He is assuming a name, an id used by Panditji and using his computer..

 

lol..

 

and there is no connection between these two.

 

regards,

Lalit.

 

 

 

vedic astrology , " ANS Sarman " <sarman

wrote:

>

> Dear Pandit Dakshinamoorthiji,

>

> Below is an introduction mail from Shri MohanRam in which

he clearly

> says he is using an assumed name!. Message # 68934 dt Dec.20,

2005 Sub :

> Re. Vedik Astrology Courses sought.

>

> Regards

> Sarman

>

>

> vedic astrology , mohan ram <mohanraaam@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri.Shaw,

> >

> > I am posting this under my assumed name(mohanram is

> > not my real name; it is actually the id under which

> > Guruji used to chat with me and teach me astrology

> > some years back. I added extra " a " s (mohanraaam

> > instead of guruji's id mohanram which he no longer

> > uses and assumed this id as a mark of respect to him).

> > I am not a practising astrologer. I learnt astrology

> > basically to understand myself, my inner motivations

> > and to know the dynamics of others with whom I enter

> > into relationships. I find that this works perfectly

> > well for me. I also give free readings and also

> > contribute my views from time to time in forums like

> > these.

> >

> > I would consider the astrological course under my

> > Guruji. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI to be one of the

> > best for any level of student. His teaching will make

> > even complicated concepts easy to grasp.

> >

> > But, there are certain disadvantages of a course under

> > him:

> >

> > 1) Firstly, he does not award any degree or

> > certificate to his students. He teaches astrology in

> > the traditional gurukul type of system and feels

> > certificate is only a paper and real knowledge should

> > really shine no matter what....

> >

> > 2) Secondly, he may not easily accept a student under

> > his guidance. Only if the students satisfy certain

> > criteria he takes them in.

> >

> > But, from my experience, I can tell you, a 3 month

> > beginner course in vedic astrology under him will

> > really set you on the highroads of astrological

> > achievement.

> >

> > Though he also trains some people through email

> > communication, it is best to attend his classes

> > personally at Chennai. If you are dedicated, you can

> > learn the vital basics in even 1 month and progress to

> > the advanced levels when you will no longer need the

> > guidance of a teacher. So, try to make it convenient

> > for you to attend his classes personally.

> >

> > You can contact Guruji directly in this regard at the

> > following email addresses:

> > dakshinastrologer@ or at the email id

> > which panditji uses to post messages in this forum.

> >

> > Best wishes.

>

> On 8/6/07, dakshinastrologer <dakshinastrologer wrote:

> >

> > Honestly if Mohanraaamji comes out in the public it will be a

great

> > relief for me because it will exonerate me.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

40>,

> > " dakshinastrologer "

> >

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri. Kishore:

> > >

> > > Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking

it....

> > >

> > > Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming

from

> > my

> > > id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

> > > messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he

writes

> > > from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

> > > also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to

be

> > > missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over

another

> > > fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in

Trivandrum

> > > while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it

> > does

> > > not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

> > >

> > > Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by

Somerset

> > > Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel by

> > R.L.

> > > Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in august

> > > groups like these.

> > >

> > > Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait

for

> > the

> > > truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

> > > itself!

> > >

> > > Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and

> > applies

> > > to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your

level

> > > of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is

false.

> > >

> > > There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold

such

> > a

> > > view point, why do you believe astrology which does to

> > such

> > > concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

> > > dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is

> > wider

> > > than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

> > > aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research

was

> > > being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using

Psi

> > > energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are

> > quoting

> > > from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

> > > superstitions!

> > >

> > > Selective belief is the bane of our society.

> > >

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology <vedic astrology%

40>,

> > " kishore.bijlani "

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> > > >

> > > > Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in

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> > If

> > > > that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy

id

> > and

> > > > put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such

jobs.

> > He

> > > > can also create a id for him.

> > > >

> > > > Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such

things

> > > are

> > > > possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on

> > these

> > > > things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

> > > >

> > > > We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to

reality.

> > > >

> > > > This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's

novel.

> > > >

> > > > Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his

identity

> > so

> > > > that members can belive that they are two separate people and

not

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

My English may not be good - just as you may not be good in Hindi.

Even when it comes to knowledge you may have more knowledge on

astrology and other shashtras than most people. That does not allow

you to treat others without respect.

 

You say - Please get your facts right before you post in august

groups like these.

 

I was wrong in some place but what is the use of lecturing on

mantras and shashtra when the foundation is weak - people are not

clear whether you and Mr. Mohanram is one.

 

You have said correctly that Mr. Mohanram should come out in the

open and clear this mistry. Your name is also cleared of all doubts.

 

If he can use your computer, why he cannot use some other computer.

If he is such a powerful person or bhooth then he should be able to

send message without computer also. Or better than that instead of

writing mails and arguing with people let him change people's mind

without any mails. So there is no argument.

 

I am surprised that the elders and learned people in the group are

silently observing this. It is the usual Indian attitude - " It does

not concern me, I do not care " .

 

Ramsay and other horror film producers have enough masala available

for making a film.

 

vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

<dakshinastrologer wrote:

>

> Honestly if Mohanraaamji comes out in the public it will be a

great

> relief for me because it will exonerate me.

>

> Blessed be.

> Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shri. Kishore:

> >

> > Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking

it....

> >

> > Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming

from

> my

> > id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

> > messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he

writes

> > from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

> > also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to

be

> > missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over

another

> > fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in

Trivandrum

> > while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it

> does

> > not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

> >

> > Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by

Somerset

> > Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel by

> R.L.

> > Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in

august

> > groups like these.

> >

> > Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait

for

> the

> > truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

> > itself!

> >

> > Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and

> applies

> > to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your

level

> > of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is false.

> >

> > There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold

such

> a

> > view point, why do you believe astrology which does to

> such

> > concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

> > dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is

> wider

> > than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

> > aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research

was

> > being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using

Psi

> > energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are

> quoting

> > from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

> > superstitions!

> >

> > Selective belief is the bane of our society.

> >

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " kishore.bijlani "

> > <kishore.bijlani@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in

silence.

> If

> > > that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy

id

> and

> > > put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such

jobs.

> He

> > > can also create a id for him.

> > >

> > > Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such

things

> > are

> > > possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on

> these

> > > things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

> > >

> > > We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to

reality.

> > >

> > > This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's

novel.

> > >

> > > Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his

identity

> so

> > > that members can belive that they are two separate people and

not

> > one.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri Kishore:

 

Rather than my foundations, it is your foundation which is

weak....Even in criminal justice system, a person is innocent unless

proved guilty.....What is there in your hands to say that I am guilty?

 

My basics are strong. Casting serious aspersions on a person's

character just on the basis of hearsay and your own beliefs is the

sign of a weak basic ethic and you have that.

 

If you Engish is wrong, no body would worry..but you represented a

false fact and passed it of as genuine. With such flawed

intelligence, can you judge others? That was what I tried to bring

out......

 

If you know dharma shaastra you will know that there is nothing much

to gain in this world by cheating....the sin and the consequences

will far outweight the seeming advantages......Yet, you people think

that I - who speak of dharma always would have done that....That is

your level of maturity!

 

You have not judged me fairly....you people selectively pick up

evidences from here and there, and then impute motives, and damn

me...this is unfair.

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHIvedic-

astrology , " kishore.bijlani " <kishore.bijlani

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> My English may not be good - just as you may not be good in Hindi.

> Even when it comes to knowledge you may have more knowledge on

> astrology and other shashtras than most people. That does not allow

> you to treat others without respect.

>

> You say - Please get your facts right before you post in august

> groups like these.

>

> I was wrong in some place but what is the use of lecturing on

> mantras and shashtra when the foundation is weak - people are not

> clear whether you and Mr. Mohanram is one.

>

> You have said correctly that Mr. Mohanram should come out in the

> open and clear this mistry. Your name is also cleared of all doubts.

>

> If he can use your computer, why he cannot use some other computer.

> If he is such a powerful person or bhooth then he should be able to

> send message without computer also. Or better than that instead of

> writing mails and arguing with people let him change people's mind

> without any mails. So there is no argument.

>

> I am surprised that the elders and learned people in the group are

> silently observing this. It is the usual Indian attitude - " It does

> not concern me, I do not care " .

>

> Ramsay and other horror film producers have enough masala available

> for making a film.

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Honestly if Mohanraaamji comes out in the public it will be a

> great

> > relief for me because it will exonerate me.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri. Kishore:

> > >

> > > Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking

> it....

> > >

> > > Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming

> from

> > my

> > > id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

> > > messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he

> writes

> > > from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

> > > also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to

> be

> > > missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over

> another

> > > fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in

> Trivandrum

> > > while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it

> > does

> > > not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

> > >

> > > Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by

> Somerset

> > > Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel

by

> > R.L.

> > > Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in

> august

> > > groups like these.

> > >

> > > Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait

> for

> > the

> > > truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

> > > itself!

> > >

> > > Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and

> > applies

> > > to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your

> level

> > > of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is

false.

> > >

> > > There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold

> such

> > a

> > > view point, why do you believe astrology which does

to

> > such

> > > concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

> > > dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is

> > wider

> > > than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

> > > aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research

> was

> > > being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using

> Psi

> > > energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are

> > quoting

> > > from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

> > > superstitions!

> > >

> > > Selective belief is the bane of our society.

> > >

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " kishore.bijlani "

> > > <kishore.bijlani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in

> silence.

> > If

> > > > that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy

> id

> > and

> > > > put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such

> jobs.

> > He

> > > > can also create a id for him.

> > > >

> > > > Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such

> things

> > > are

> > > > possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on

> > these

> > > > things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

> > > >

> > > > We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to

> reality.

> > > >

> > > > This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's

> novel.

> > > >

> > > > Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his

> identity

> > so

> > > > that members can belive that they are two separate people and

> not

> > > one.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shri. Kishore:

 

Just because someone suspects somebody, it does not imply that the

suspected person loses credibility.

 

You say that people do not know if Mohanraamji and I are same.....how

many people here want to know it?

 

Only the person Lalith who abused my generosity by begging for

discount which I gladly offered to help him and he is doing

this....Yourself in a misguided way.....Shri. Karunaakaram Raaghavam

who had some hot exchanged with Mohanraaamji......Shri. Sarman who is

also a recent entrant.......

 

Just 4 of you in a group of more than 7000 members have an active

doubt; there may be some 100 who may have passive doubt - like may be

it is true...maybe it is not true.....What about the rest?

 

Think before you accuse someone without evidence! If you think a

person who has studies dharma shaastra and lives a vedic life can

cheat and tell lies, it shows you know nothing about dharma shaastra.

 

I have not propogated any view here; I have only answered queries

from genuine querents. I have even offered to quit the group. What

more do you people want? What are you trying to prove? Above

all...what will you gain by this meaningless harassment of a vedic

brahmin?

 

Whom have I cheated here? Did I abuse the trust? Did I con people

into consultations? Ask the members here!

 

Actually, I am hard pressed for time and I cannot afford to write in

different ids. Use your common sense; my appointments are tight and

well=scheduled. I write in different websites and clarify the doubts

of various persons throughout the day. If you think after all this

and my usual poojas I will still have time for typing mails at the

death of night....am I a superman to survive without sleep? Why

don't you people think of this simple truth?

 

Blessed be.

Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHIvedic-

astrology , " kishore.bijlani " <kishore.bijlani

wrote:

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> My English may not be good - just as you may not be good in Hindi.

> Even when it comes to knowledge you may have more knowledge on

> astrology and other shashtras than most people. That does not allow

> you to treat others without respect.

>

> You say - Please get your facts right before you post in august

> groups like these.

>

> I was wrong in some place but what is the use of lecturing on

> mantras and shashtra when the foundation is weak - people are not

> clear whether you and Mr. Mohanram is one.

>

> You have said correctly that Mr. Mohanram should come out in the

> open and clear this mistry. Your name is also cleared of all doubts.

>

> If he can use your computer, why he cannot use some other computer.

> If he is such a powerful person or bhooth then he should be able to

> send message without computer also. Or better than that instead of

> writing mails and arguing with people let him change people's mind

> without any mails. So there is no argument.

>

> I am surprised that the elders and learned people in the group are

> silently observing this. It is the usual Indian attitude - " It does

> not concern me, I do not care " .

>

> Ramsay and other horror film producers have enough masala available

> for making a film.

>

> vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> >

> > Honestly if Mohanraaamji comes out in the public it will be a

> great

> > relief for me because it will exonerate me.

> >

> > Blessed be.

> > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> >

> > vedic astrology , " dakshinastrologer "

> > <dakshinastrologer@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Shri. Kishore:

> > >

> > > Please open your eyes and understand things before speaking

> it....

> > >

> > > Mohanraaamji has not written from my " id " ....messages coming

> from

> > my

> > > id are mine only! They are authentic. The doubt is only about

> > > messages coming from the id " Mohanraaam " which he claims he

> writes

> > > from my own IP address, and which I have traced once before

> > > also.....that too with an engineer from this group who seems to

> be

> > > missing....He was another Mishra....You are glossing over

> another

> > > fact that the engineer found one mail from his own IP in

> Trivandrum

> > > while I was at Chennai.....why did you ignore that? Because it

> > does

> > > not serve the purpose of smearing mud on me? Is it so?

> > >

> > > Another thing.....Dr. Jekkyl and Mr. Hyde Novel is not by

> Somerset

> > > Maugham! Please update your knowledge levels! It is a novel

by

> > R.L.

> > > Stevenson. Please get your facts right before you post in

> august

> > > groups like these.

> > >

> > > Real Intelligence can accept different possibilities and wait

> for

> > the

> > > truth; but shallow intelligence will accept nothing better than

> > > itself!

> > >

> > > Please meditate on my last sentence; it has a wide import and

> > applies

> > > to your belief systems. Just because something is beyond your

> level

> > > of comprehension, it does not necessarily mean the fact is

false.

> > >

> > > There is nothing wrong about Bhoot/ Pret beliefs. If you hold

> such

> > a

> > > view point, why do you believe astrology which does

to

> > such

> > > concepts like " curse of serpents " , " curse of ancestors (preta

> > > dosha) " , etc.? Study any concept in its entirely..the world is

> > wider

> > > than you believe.....People in the NASA are researching on

> > > aliens.....It is a fact that during the cold War era research

> was

> > > being done on remote viewing, Remote control of objects using

> Psi

> > > energies, etc. You are probably unaware of all that, and are

> > quoting

> > > from your 8th standard civics text books decrying so called

> > > superstitions!

> > >

> > > Selective belief is the bane of our society.

> > >

> > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology , " kishore.bijlani "

> > > <kishore.bijlani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mr Mohanram can send mails through others computers in

> silence.

> > If

> > > > that is possible then why he should use Shri. Dakshinamurthy

> id

> > and

> > > > put him in trouble. He can use any other id for doing such

> jobs.

> > He

> > > > can also create a id for him.

> > > >

> > > > Do the learned and elderly people in this Group feel such

> things

> > > are

> > > > possible. Surprising that moderator and members are silent on

> > these

> > > > things. It looks as if we are in some Bhooth / Preth group.

> > > >

> > > > We are fooling ourselves by closing our eyes and ears to

> reality.

> > > >

> > > > This is like Dr.Jekeyll and Mr. Hide - Somerset Maugham's

> novel.

> > > >

> > > > Why not Mr. Mohanram come out in the open and prove his

> identity

> > so

> > > > that members can belive that they are two separate people and

> not

> > > one.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sir,

 

Namaskar. Please do not leave the group. It is very disturbing to see good

people like you getting into such a controversy. Please let us move on and leave

everything in the hands of GOD.

Regards,

Archana

 

 

 

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