Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Om Shri Mahaganpataye Namah Om Shri Hare Rama Krishan Om Shri Guruve Namah Rescpected Dakshinmoorti Ji and Raffel Ji, Pranam Now It is clear that we must have 108 (One Mala Jap) at least for any mantra. Now I think it is more important to know 1. How mantra affects us, our environment, mind, body etc. ? 2. Which mantra should I choose to chat ? 3. What is the theory of selection of mantras ? with regards sushil dikshit vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit wrote: > > > Resp. Sri Murthy Adavi, > > Thanx, u seem logical.... but u know there are myths. > > one myth is attack of destructive forces. See, your mantra and ur God is > always capable of taking care of all destructive forces. it's beyond > descipline and what descipline, descipline is our perception. > > like, if u switch on an electric bulb, it emits light,wherever it's > located. > > so, when u start chanting mantra, when ur single minded, no thought with > intensity is there in ur mind, whatever force is there, if any, will get > automatically repelled and u w'd hardly come to know about what happened > around. > > like, i used to chant devi kavach given in durga shapthshati, then after > a point, i realized it's just nothing but my own effort to condition my > mind, mother is always there, why and what i fear. > > u know, but i m not sthitpragya, still deviation comes in mind and i try > to understand where is the root, sometimes, it is fun too, like u get > frineds to njoy ur time, same way, I consulted with Pandit ji to know > the reason why i m not getting good proposals for my marriage, that was > a fun sort of thing, till 32 i was busy in my struggle for a good Job of > my liking and exploring the spirituality after the sharada temple's > incident, after that, i saw my old father and mother, wants me to get > married, I was not sure what i should do, but then i thought deeply, and > accpted the option of getting married. > > Let's see when it happens, I have made a time frame, then i w'd move on, > there is much to discover and rediscover in the field of spirituality > for my satisfactin and for all , like relationship and control of body, > mind and soul. so many questions needs to be answered. > > U know even getting God's vision is not enough, still, karma is left to > burn out. > > regards, > Lalit. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , asmp2k02@ wrote: > > > > Resp Sri Lalitji, > > Thanks for your mail.But please also read GuruDakshinamurthyiji's > mail(addressing me) also on this,which brings in more clarity to the > applicability principles to my mail. > > I meant that both are necessity but to what degree of time(it varies > from saadhaka to saadhaka) to get such inbuilt maturity such that that > the count will be taken care of by Divine forces after some initial > period of saadhana. > > Morover the type of bio matter present in the japa maala(which is > symbolic for ritualism as well as from practical point of view for our > count) will help in keeping away destructive forces acting on us .Thus > the symbolic rituals will indirectly help us in keeping away from > negative thoughts and also trains our memory to be object oriented.If > our memory grows and retentive capacity increase the Gnaana will > increase ,but at the same time destructive forces (diversions) also > becomes powerful.Thus the symbolic procedures will come in handy to > successfully fight the negative forces.The rituals may be Rising > early(if possible during Braahmi muhurta),Taking bath,Japaanusthaan, > attending to the livelihood job etc etc in defined times as discipline > helps indirectly tune our memory through keeping our body healthy. > > Thus ultimately we conclude that the so called symbolic procedures are > not actually symbolic(it got branded as such) but a necessity for our > own good if we practice to the extent we can. > > > > Quoting mishra.lalit@: > > > > > Resp. Sri Murthy Adavi, > > > > Yes, what you said is perfectly right, we count or dont count,target > > is realization of god's love within, I got it with no counting, > > someone may get it with counting. > > > > Thanx, for the writing. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , srinivasa murthy adavi > > asmp2k02@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Learned Members, > > > > > > Both views may be correct when the views have/or with the goal as > > development of Love/Devotion towards adhistana Devatha of the Mantra > > as Base. > > > In the initial stage only you need the count;as one develops the > > habit the biological tuning of the intellect/body will automatically > > take care of the practice(without count-help of malas etc). > > > It's like if with the help of Alarm clock if we wake up for 2 or 3 > > days at some appointed hour,then automatically we wakeup at the same > > time every day without help of alarm. > > > > > > With due Respects > > > > > > smadavi > > > > > > > > > Quoting starsuponme@: > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > Definitely we should count our Mantra Japa on Mala. Your view is > > against > > > Vedic Authorities and Sages, so should be rejected. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri, > > > > > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop > > counting > > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then > > > > frustration if u dont get desired results. > > > > > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may be > > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur part > > is > > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will be, > > god > > > > will ensure it for u. > > > > > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited > > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth. > > > > > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for ur's > > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic astrology% 40>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree: > > > > > > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and > > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful > > > > esoteric > > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your wonderful > > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful. > > > > > > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the Universe. > > > > But, > > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there are > > > > various > > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices. 108 is > > a > > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have > > understood > > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that > > there > > > > are > > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the information of > > > > the > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic- > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com <astrology% > > 40>, > > > > " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is away > > from > > > > the > > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away > > from the > > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter. > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to deities > > too. > > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of Lord > > > > > Narayana. > > > > > > > > > > > > jayasree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic astrology% 40>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, " sushil.dikshit " > > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Babu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good question. > > > > > > > Actually > > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4 Charan > > so > > > > > total > > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3 degree > > and > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to 108 > > it > > > > > comes > > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This cycle > > > > > > > represetns > > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and > > nakshatra > > > > > are > > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope. So > > > > > chanting a > > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further One > > who > > > > > has > > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is > > brahmagyani he > > > > > is > > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, babu mon > > > > > <muthappan111@ > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > > for 108 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Om Shri Mahaganpataye Namah Om Shri Hare Rama Krishan Om Shri Guruve Namah Rescpected Members, Pranam Now It is clear that we must have 108 (One Mala Jap) at least for any mantra. Now I think it is more important to know 1. How mantra affects us, our environment, mind, body etc. ? 2. Which mantra should I choose to chat ? 3. What is the theory of selection of mantras ? with regards sushil dikshit > vedic astrology , " litsol " <mishra.lalit@> > wrote: > > > > > > Resp. Sri Murthy Adavi, > > > > Thanx, u seem logical.... but u know there are myths. > > > > one myth is attack of destructive forces. See, your mantra and ur > God is > > always capable of taking care of all destructive forces. it's > beyond > > descipline and what descipline, descipline is our perception. > > > > like, if u switch on an electric bulb, it emits light,wherever > it's > > located. > > > > so, when u start chanting mantra, when ur single minded, no thought > with > > intensity is there in ur mind, whatever force is there, if any, > will get > > automatically repelled and u w'd hardly come to know about what > happened > > around. > > > > like, i used to chant devi kavach given in durga shapthshati, then > after > > a point, i realized it's just nothing but my own effort to > condition my > > mind, mother is always there, why and what i fear. > > > > u know, but i m not sthitpragya, still deviation comes in mind and > i try > > to understand where is the root, sometimes, it is fun too, like u > get > > frineds to njoy ur time, same way, I consulted with Pandit ji to > know > > the reason why i m not getting good proposals for my marriage, that > was > > a fun sort of thing, till 32 i was busy in my struggle for a good > Job of > > my liking and exploring the spirituality after the sharada temple's > > incident, after that, i saw my old father and mother, wants me to > get > > married, I was not sure what i should do, but then i thought > deeply, and > > accpted the option of getting married. > > > > Let's see when it happens, I have made a time frame, then i w'd > move on, > > there is much to discover and rediscover in the field of > spirituality > > for my satisfactin and for all , like relationship and control of > body, > > mind and soul. so many questions needs to be answered. > > > > U know even getting God's vision is not enough, still, karma is > left to > > burn out. > > > > regards, > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , asmp2k02@ wrote: > > > > > > Resp Sri Lalitji, > > > Thanks for your mail.But please also read GuruDakshinamurthyiji's > > mail(addressing me) also on this,which brings in more clarity to the > > applicability principles to my mail. > > > I meant that both are necessity but to what degree of time(it > varies > > from saadhaka to saadhaka) to get such inbuilt maturity such that > that > > the count will be taken care of by Divine forces after some initial > > period of saadhana. > > > Morover the type of bio matter present in the japa maala(which is > > symbolic for ritualism as well as from practical point of view for > our > > count) will help in keeping away destructive forces acting on > us .Thus > > the symbolic rituals will indirectly help us in keeping away from > > negative thoughts and also trains our memory to be object > oriented.If > > our memory grows and retentive capacity increase the Gnaana will > > increase ,but at the same time destructive forces (diversions) also > > becomes powerful.Thus the symbolic procedures will come in handy to > > successfully fight the negative forces.The rituals may be Rising > > early(if possible during Braahmi muhurta),Taking bath,Japaanusthaan, > > attending to the livelihood job etc etc in defined times as > discipline > > helps indirectly tune our memory through keeping our body healthy. > > > Thus ultimately we conclude that the so called symbolic > procedures are > > not actually symbolic(it got branded as such) but a necessity for > our > > own good if we practice to the extent we can. > > > > > > Quoting mishra.lalit@: > > > > > > > Resp. Sri Murthy Adavi, > > > > > > Yes, what you said is perfectly right, we count or dont > count,target > > > is realization of god's love within, I got it with no counting, > > > someone may get it with counting. > > > > > > Thanx, for the writing. > > > > > > regards, > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology , srinivasa murthy adavi > > > asmp2k02@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Learned Members, > > > > > > > > Both views may be correct when the views have/or with the goal > as > > > development of Love/Devotion towards adhistana Devatha of the > Mantra > > > as Base. > > > > In the initial stage only you need the count;as one develops the > > > habit the biological tuning of the intellect/body will > automatically > > > take care of the practice(without count-help of malas etc). > > > > It's like if with the help of Alarm clock if we wake up for 2 > or 3 > > > days at some appointed hour,then automatically we wakeup at the > same > > > time every day without help of alarm. > > > > > > > > With due Respects > > > > > > > > smadavi > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting starsuponme@: > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Litsol, > > > > > > > > Definitely we should count our Mantra Japa on Mala. Your view is > > > against > > > > Vedic Authorities and Sages, so should be rejected. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > litsol napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Jayashri, > > > > > > > > > > A thought came, why i should not share with u, U pls. stop > > > counting > > > > > mantra chantings, counting mantra gives false ego and then > > > > > frustration if u dont get desired results. > > > > > > > > > > leave it to the god, god counts the mantra chanted by you may > be > > > > > 108, 1008 or whatsoever, let him count, it's his part and ur > part > > > is > > > > > to chant the mantra. when the mantra has to awaken, it will > be, > > > god > > > > > will ensure it for u. > > > > > > > > > > sometimes we try to become more intelligent with out limited > > > > > intellect and that creates obstacles in our spiritual growth. > > > > > > > > > > So, forget about counts, forget about the time u put in for > ur's > > > > > sadhana, invoke the god with pure heart. purity counts. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Lalit. > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic astrology% > 40>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Ms. Jayashree: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think this topic on 108 is getting very interesting and > > > > > > enlightening for all members. Yesterday we had a wonderful > > > > > esoteric > > > > > > explanation from Shri. Sushil Dikshit, and today your > wonderful > > > > > > explanation of numerical symmetry of the cosmos! Wonderful. > > > > > > > > > > > > There definitely exists a " numerical symphony " in the > Universe. > > > > > But, > > > > > > not only 108.....as I mentioned in my earlier post, there > are > > > > > various > > > > > > other numerals that are significant in occult practices. > 108 is > > > a > > > > > > powerful and all-purpose perfect number...While we have > > > understood > > > > > > the glory of 108, we should not lose sight of the fact that > > > there > > > > > are > > > > > > other powerful numbers also. This is just for the > information of > > > > > the > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > My apprecitation again for this wonderful response. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. vedic- > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com <astrology% > > > 40>, > > > > > " jayasartn " <jayasartn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In cosmology, 108 has this significance - the moon is away > > > from > > > > > the > > > > > > > earth 108 times its (moon's) diameter and the sun is away > > > from the > > > > > > > earth, 108 times its diameter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps this reality of distances is applicable to deities > > > too. > > > > > > > Perhaps this has been indicated by the 108 divya desas of > Lord > > > > > > Narayana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jayasree > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic astrology% > 40>, " dakshinastrologer " > > > > > > > <dakshinastrologer@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Sushil: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a wonderful answer you have given. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Blessed be. > > > > > > > > Pandit R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, " sushil.dikshit " > > > > > > > > <sushil.dikshit@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Babu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is not a silly question but it is a very good > question. > > > > > > > > Actually > > > > > > > > > there are 27 Nakshatras and every Nakshtras has 4 > Charan > > > so > > > > > > total > > > > > > > > > charans are 27 x 4 = 108 Charan. Each Charan has 3 > degree > > > and > > > > > > 20 > > > > > > > > > minutes so if you multiply 3 degree and 20 minutes to > 108 > > > it > > > > > > comes > > > > > > > > > out to be 360 degress i.e. one cycle (Circle). This > cycle > > > > > > > > represetns > > > > > > > > > whole brahmand because all the rashis, planets and > > > nakshatra > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > between these 360 degree in 2 dimensional horoscope. > So > > > > > > chanting a > > > > > > > > > Mantra completes one cycle of this brahmand. Further > One > > > who > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > visited Brahamand at least one time i.e. he is > > > brahmagyani he > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > entitiled to place 108 Shri before his name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sushil dikshit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, babu mon > > > > > > <muthappan111@ > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may be a silly matter for all of you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to know what is the reason that some remedies > > > > > > recomended > > > > > > > > > for 108 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I dont know any thing about astrology. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope you may pleased to provide a reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Babu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > > > > > > > > > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers > from > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > > > > Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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