Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Supriti, I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com supriti108 napisał(a): |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Rafal, My comments below. Thank you for helping me understand this. Regards Supriti sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > conflicts. [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun. Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > highlighted during that time. [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in Kendra in D9 though. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct." > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects. > > > > My birth details: > > September 18, 1970 > > Time: 17:48:30 > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00" > > Kolkata, India > > > > Thanks > > Supriti > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > Yogas. > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > posited > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > bhava > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > the > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Manoj > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > in-jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish->> > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > > Part- > > > > 1.pdf > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-> > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > this > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) .. This will allow > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Mike, Nope, if Parivartana contains good bhavas then the result is different from Dainya-Parivartana. Seventh lord connected to ninth bhava is Raja yoga (Lakshmi-Narayana Yoga). Marriage can be in wealthy family. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Michael Travass napisa?(a): > > Dear Rafal, > In a similar vien what would excange of 7th lord saturn with 10th lord > Mars in Dasama mean. > And in the same situation if the 9th lord is exalted in the 7th house > and the 7th lord debilitaed in 10th house. in Dasama. > Thanks and regards, > Mike > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > [vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > 26 July 2007 10:27 > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th > rafal ji > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Shreeya, > > In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to get > money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H. > > In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - this > will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally > native can like or have karma connected to short-terms relationships. > > I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, this > was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. It was > > 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) <rafal%40rohinaa.com> com > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > venusgaal2003 napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what > > does it indicate? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Regards > > Shreeya > > > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > Yogas. > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > posited > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > bhava > > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > the > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should > > be > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Manoj > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->> > .blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->> > .blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->> > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > > Part- > > > > 1.pdf > > > > <http:// > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->> > .org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- > > <http:// > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->> > .org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-> > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > this > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Rafal, If 7th lord cojoining 9th lord is Shiva yoga and a blessing and if it is in 6th house, it indicates broadening knowledge used for research, then what does this conjunciton (that of 9th lord and 7th lord) indicate if it happens in 7th house? And further are the indications different if that 9th lord conjoining the 7th lord is exhalted and teh 7th lord is in own house. many thanks peace charu sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva > Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava > then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and > demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic > in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > My comments below. > > Thank you for helping me understand this. > > Regards > > Supriti > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > > > conflicts. > > > > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord > > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun. > > > > > > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > > > highlighted during that time. > > > > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to > > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. > > > > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. > > > > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is > > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in > > Kendra in D9 though. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I > > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. > > > > > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas > > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and > > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. > > > > > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana > > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation > > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where > > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. > > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct. " > > > > > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting > > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th > > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects. > > > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > September 18, 1970 > > > > Time: 17:48:30 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 " > > > > Kolkata, India > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > > > Yogas. > > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > > > posited > > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > > > bhava > > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > > > the > > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > > > jyotish- > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > > > in-jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish->> > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > > > > Part- > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > Class-2-Part- > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-> > > > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Rafal, Thank you once again. With regards to this parivartana query I think I have not been able to word my query properly. However, as usual the conversation has been very enlightening. My question is if there is a parivartana between a upachaya/dushtana and a kendra house, In this example, 6th and 7th. If at the same time, current Narayana dasa aspects the kendra and current Vimsottari dasa is related to upachaya/dushtana, how do we decide which dasa will give its fruits. Regards Supriti sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva > Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava > then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and > demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic > in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > My comments below. > > Thank you for helping me understand this. > > Regards > > Supriti > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > > > conflicts. > > > > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord > > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun. > > > > > > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > > > highlighted during that time. > > > > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to > > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. > > > > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. > > > > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is > > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in > > Kendra in D9 though. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I > > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. > > > > > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas > > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and > > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. > > > > > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana > > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation > > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where > > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. > > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct. " > > > > > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting > > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th > > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects. > > > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > September 18, 1970 > > > > Time: 17:48:30 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 " > > > > Kolkata, India > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > > > Yogas. > > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > > > posited > > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > > > bhava > > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > > > the > > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > > > jyotish- > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > > > in-jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish->> > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > > > > Part- > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > Class-2-Part- > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-> > > > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Supriti, I just told You, read my comment again. Contemplate difference between Vimshottari and Narayana Dasa and You will know. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com supriti108 napisał(a): |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Rafal, Thank you once again. With regards to this parivartana query I think I have not been able to word my query properly. However, as usual the conversation has been very enlightening. My question is if there is a parivartana between a upachaya/dushtana and a kendra house, In this example, 6th and 7th. If at the same time, current Narayana dasa aspects the kendra and current Vimsottari dasa is related to upachaya/dushtana, how do we decide which dasa will give its fruits. Regards Supriti sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva > Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava > then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and > demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic > in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > My comments below. > > Thank you for helping me understand this. > > Regards > > Supriti > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > > > conflicts. > > > > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord > > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun. > > > > > > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > > > highlighted during that time. > > > > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to > > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. > > > > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. > > > > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is > > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in > > Kendra in D9 though. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I > > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. > > > > > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas > > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and > > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. > > > > > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana > > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation > > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where > > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. > > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct." > > > > > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting > > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th > > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects. > > > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > September 18, 1970 > > > > Time: 17:48:30 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00" > > > > Kolkata, India > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > > > Yogas. > > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > > > posited > > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > > > bhava > > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > > > the > > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > > > jyotish- > > > > > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > > > in-jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish->> > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > > > > Part- > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > Class-2-Part- > > > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-> > > > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern > > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence > > > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Rafal, I am not sure if I have understood it right. I am writing my interpretation below. Quoting from Varahamihira Blogspot " Though the name does not suggest much differences it has as compared to the vimshottari dasa system, in actual practice, this dasa is more deterministic and fixed and shows the wishes of Narayana, whereas the vimshottari dasa shows the reaction of normal mortals to the situations they are placed in. " So this would mean that Narayana wishes for the tattwa change via parivartana etc. The manifestation of this wish is court cases, separation, argument, etc. Regards Supriti sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > I just told You, read my comment again. > > Contemplate difference between Vimshottari and Narayana Dasa and You > will know. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thank you once again. With regards to this parivartana query I think > > I have not been able to word my query properly. However, as usual the > > conversation has been very enlightening. > > > > My question is if there is a parivartana between a upachaya/dushtana and > > a kendra house, In this example, 6th and 7th. If at the same time, > > current Narayana dasa aspects the kendra and current Vimsottari dasa is > > related to upachaya/dushtana, how do we decide which dasa will give its > > fruits. > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is > > Shiva > > > Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava > > > then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and > > > demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with > > Malefic > > > in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > My comments below. > > > > Thank you for helping me understand this. > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > > > > > conflicts. > > > > > > > > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord > > > > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord > > Sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > > > > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will > > be > > > > > highlighted during that time. > > > > > > > > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to > > > > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. > > > > > > > > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > > > > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. > > > > > > > > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is > > > > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in > > > > Kendra in D9 though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one > > concept. I > > > > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few > > parivartanas > > > > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th > > and > > > > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. > > > > > > > > > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana > > > > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good > > situation > > > > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again > > where > > > > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great > > friendship. > > > > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very > > correct. " > > > > > > > > > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa > > (aspecting > > > > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed > > in 6th > > > > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects. > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > > > September 18, 1970 > > > > > > Time: 17:48:30 > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 " > > > > > > Kolkata, India > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. > > com>, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > > > > > Yogas. > > > > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > > > > > posited > > > > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for > > bad > > > > > > bhava > > > > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially > > from > > > > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time > > of > > > > > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this > > 'touch' > > > > > > the > > > > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this > > should be > > > > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti > > ji > > > > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > in- > > > > > > jyotish- > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > > > > > in-jyotish- > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > in-jyotish->> > > > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > Class-2- > > > > > > Part- > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > > > Class-2-Part- > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > Class-2-Part-> > > > > > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day- dreamings, > > > > > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2007 Report Share Posted July 27, 2007 Dear Supriti, I may be late to respond to your Qs, just wanted to bring attention to couple of things. Ju and Mo give Raya Joga, good wealth, after marriage likely. Re your dasas periods, I feel you've wanted some explanation. In Vimsottari, AD may take over MD, so many astrologers set MD aside and predict based on AD. It's all about how we perceive the world. Narayana Dasa, on the other hand tells us 'what the world has in stake for you' and Maha Dasa is the King, always. Antara may add some info, but unlike in Vimsottari, Maha Dasa sets up the stage for related events. If one event is conferred by both dasas you can do fine tuning. I hope this answers your Q Regards, Anna Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Dear Rafalji Please would you elaborate on the shiva yoga you mention here? If 7th lord with 9th lord in 6th house is shiva yoga which shows broadening of knowledge specifically used for research, the what does that yoga mean if it takes place in 7th house? Thank you peace charu sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva > Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava > then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and > demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic > in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > My comments below. > > Thank you for helping me understand this. > > Regards > > Supriti > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > > > conflicts. > > > > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord > > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun. > > > > > > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > > > highlighted during that time. > > > > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to > > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. > > > > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. > > > > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is > > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in > > Kendra in D9 though. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I > > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. > > > > > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas > > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and > > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. > > > > > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana > > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation > > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where > > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. > > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct. " > > > > > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting > > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th > > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects. > > > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > September 18, 1970 > > > > Time: 17:48:30 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 " > > > > Kolkata, India > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > > > Yogas. > > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > > > posited > > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > > > bhava > > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > > > the > > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > > > jyotish- > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > > > in-jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish->> > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > > > > Part- > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > Class-2-Part- > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-> > > > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Charu, Then this needs the activity of seventh bhava..buisness..partner..spouse..travel etc. Its very good yoga. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com charu2250 napisał(a): Dear Rafalji Please would you elaborate on the shiva yoga you mention here? If 7th lord with 9th lord in 6th house is shiva yoga which shows broadening of knowledge specifically used for research, the what does that yoga mean if it takes place in 7th house? Thank you peace charu sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > I dont know what to comment here. Seventh lord with ninth lord is Shiva > Yoga which broaden knowledge, its blessing. If this is in sixth bhava > then this will be used for research (other kind than eight bhava) and > demands hard work to made it visible (9H from 10H). Buddha with Malefic > in sixth gives argumentation and often court cases. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > My comments below. > > Thank you for helping me understand this. > > Regards > > Supriti > > sohamsa@ .com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > > > conflicts. > > > > [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord > > in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun. > > > > > > Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > > > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > > > highlighted during that time. > > > > [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to > > satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. > > > > See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > > > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. > > > > [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is > > in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in > > Kendra in D9 though. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I > > > > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. > > > > > > > > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas > > > > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and > > > > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. > > > > > > > > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana > > > > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation > > > > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where > > > > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. > > > > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct." > > > > > > > > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting > > > > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th > > > > house). How do I know which one will show its effects. > > > > > > > > My birth details: > > > > September 18, 1970 > > > > Time: 17:48:30 > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > > > > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00" > > > > Kolkata, India > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > > > Yogas. > > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > > > posited > > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > > > bhava > > > > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > > > the > > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ....> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > > > jyotish- > > > > > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > > > in-jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-> > > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > > > > Part- > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- > > Class-2-Part- > > > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern > > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence > > > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear SS, Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that? Best Sharat sohamsa , "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak wrote:>> Dear Bharat,> > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays - > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the > contrary likes green the best!> What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am skeptical > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > brgds,> SS> > > sohamsa , "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> >> > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring > Sarala> > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may > suffer but> > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations > even> > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything > needs to> > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya > numerical> > yantra.> > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native > can wear> > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart > chakra.> > > > Thanks and Regards> > Bharat> > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > >> > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain > what u> > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the> > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over > Lagna> > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > >> > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be> > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in> > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone> > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to> > > treat this Ke (in 12h).> > >> > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest > stone> > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange> > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.> > >> > > Thanx a tonne> > > SS> > >> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, Rafal > Gendarz> > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > >> > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > >> > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > >> > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than> > > occult. In> > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. > This> > > yoga> > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > loose morals.> > > >> > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.> > > >> > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > >> > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana > with> > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will> > > afflict> > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > >> > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish> > > Vedanga.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > email: rafal@> > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > >> > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h> > > (marana> > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into > occult.> > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > meditative> > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > >> > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta > (weak),> > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange > b/w> > > Ju> > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be > good or> > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the> > > lagna> > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh > (and> > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > >> > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?> > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > >> > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion > seems> > > to be> > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur > reply> > > > > there)> > > > >> > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > SS> > > > >> > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Asha,> > > > > >> > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > ------------ --------- -----> > > > > >> > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > >> > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are> > > > > Oopachaya> > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please > refer> > > my> > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house> > > from> > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for> > > example> > > > > in> > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which > gives> > > > > occult> > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad > and> > > > > shows> > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and> > > faith> > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this > bhavas I> > > was> > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.> > > > > >> > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > >> > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform > of> > > > > Dusthanas.> > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana> > > lord> > > > > and> > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on > being in> > > > > Sura or> > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize > Buddha> > > & > > > > > Venus> > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives > occult> > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive > nature,> > > > > advise> > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can > give> > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also > there -> > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > > > > >> > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading > the> > > > > results.> > > > > >> > > > > > Hope it helps.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Rafal ji,> > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?> > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > asha> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Sharat, But not for lordship. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Sharat napisał(a): ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear SS, Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that? Best Sharat sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak" <soulsadhak@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Bharat, > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays - > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the > contrary likes green the best! > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ...but am skeptical > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > brgds, > SS > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring > Sarala > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may > suffer but > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations > even > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything > needs to > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya > numerical > > yantra. > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native > can wear > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart > chakra. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain > what u > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over > Lagna > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest > stone > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > SS > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40grou ps.com>, Rafal > Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than > > > occult. In > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. > This > > > yoga > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana > with > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will > > > afflict > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h > > > (marana > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into > occult. > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > meditative > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta > (weak), > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange > b/w > > > Ju > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be > good or > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the > > > lagna > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh > (and > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion > seems > > > to be > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur > reply > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please > refer > > > my > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house > > > from > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for > > > example > > > > > in > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which > gives > > > > > occult > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad > and > > > > > shows > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and > > > faith > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this > bhavas I > > > was > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform > of > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana > > > lord > > > > > and > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on > being in > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize > Buddha > > > & > > > > > Venus > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives > occult > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive > nature, > > > > > advise > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can > give > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also > there - > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading > the > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Namaste Sri Soul8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It is in a powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in overcoming the problems faced in 9th house. Thanks and Regards BharatOn 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Dear Bharat, Thanx a tonne for ur input. The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays - perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the contrary likes green the best! What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am skeptical about placement of the same in dusthana. brgds, SS sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Sri Soul > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring Sarala > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may suffer but > health should not except for minor ailments. > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations even > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything needs to > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya numerical > yantra. > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native can wear > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart chakra. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over Lagna > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > Thanx a tonne > > SS > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro ups.com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than > > occult. In > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This > > yoga > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > loose morals. > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will > > afflict > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish > > Vedanga. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h > > (marana > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult. > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak), > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w > > Ju > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the > > lagna > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems > > to be > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply > > > > there) > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > SS > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer > > my > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house > > from > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for > > example > > > > in > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > > > > occult > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > > shows > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and > > faith > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I > > was > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana > > lord > > > > and > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > > > > Sura or > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha > > & > > > > Venus > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > > > > advise > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > > > > Parasara) > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Rafal, Yes, thanks for catching that. Best Sharatsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Sharat,> > But not for lordship.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > Sharat napisa?(a):> >> > ||Namah Shivaya||> >> > Dear SS,> >> > Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that?> >> > Best> >> > Sharat> >> >> > sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak" soulsadhak@ ..> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bharat,> > >> > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays -> > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the> > > contrary likes green the best!> > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's> > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ...but am skeptical> > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > >> > > brgds,> > > SS> > >> > >> > > sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology"> > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > >> > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring> > > Sarala> > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may> > > suffer but> > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > >> > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations> > > even> > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything> > > needs to> > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya> > > numerical> > > > yantra.> > > >> > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native> > > can wear> > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart> > > chakra.> > > >> > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > Bharat> > > >> > > >> > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > >> > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain> > > what u> > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the> > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over> > > Lagna> > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > >> > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be> > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in> > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone> > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to> > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).> > > > >> > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest> > > stone> > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange> > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.> > > > >> > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > SS> > > > >> > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40grou ps.com>, Rafal> > > Gendarz> > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than> > > > > occult. In> > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS.> > > This> > > > > yoga> > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > loose morals.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth.> > > > > >> > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > >> > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana> > > with> > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will> > > > > afflict> > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > >> > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish> > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h> > > > > (marana> > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into> > > occult.> > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha /> > > meditative> > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta> > > (weak),> > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange> > > b/w> > > > > Ju> > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be> > > good or> > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the> > > > > lagna> > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh> > > (and> > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment?> > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion> > > seems> > > > > to be> > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur> > > reply> > > > > > > there)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > SS> > > > > > >> > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Asha,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are> > > > > > > Oopachaya> > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please> > > refer> > > > > my> > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house> > > > > from> > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for> > > > > example> > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which> > > gives> > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad> > > and> > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and> > > > > faith> > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this> > > bhavas I> > > > > was> > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform> > > of> > > > > > > Dusthanas.> > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana> > > > > lord> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on> > > being in> > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize> > > Buddha> > > > > & > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives> > > occult> > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive> > > nature,> > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can> > > give> > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also> > > there -> > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading> > > the> > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hope it helps.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?> > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear SS, If you have malefcics in dusthana then its good because they are not in place of support and wishes, but if they are strong then they can give court cases and hostility. Now we ve been taught that Asura Grahas dwell well in Randhr bhava while Sura ones in second bhava, but still if tenth lord is in eight then it is Duryoga, but there will be no so much suffering like with Sura being in eight bhava. Its connected to Mandara Mountain. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Soul Sadhak napisał(a): Dear Rafal and Sharat, thanx again, but what is meant by "not good for lordship" does it mean a. not good for the hs it lords when placed in 8h - as in this native's chart or b. does it mean that Me lording 8h is not good - as in my chart L-8 in 12h Thanx a tonne SS sohamsa@ ..com, "Sharat" <gidoc wrote: > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > Dear Rafal, > > Yes, thanks for catching that. > > Best > > Sharat > sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Sharat, > > > > But not for lordship. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal@ > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > Sharat napisa?(a): > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > Dear SS, > > > > > > Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that? > > > > > > Best > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak" soulsadhak@ ..> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays - > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on > the > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is > it's > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ....but am skeptical > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will > bring > > > > Sarala > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may > > > > suffer but > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > significations > > > > even > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If > anything > > > > needs to > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya > > > > numerical > > > > > yantra. > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The > native > > > > can wear > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain > > > > what u > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > the > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over > > > > Lagna > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not > be > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - > the > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes > in > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that > stone > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better > to > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still > suggest > > > > stone > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in > exchange > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro u ps.com>, > Rafal > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per > BPHS. > > > > This > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in > parivartana > > > > with > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which > will > > > > > > afflict > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish > > > > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in > 8h > > > > > > (marana > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into > > > > occult. > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta > > > > (weak), > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's > exchange > > > > b/w > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be > > > > good or > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm > the > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from > lagnesh > > > > (and > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion > > > > seems > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur > > > > reply > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal > Gendarz > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This > are > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial > (please > > > > refer > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth > house > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native > (for > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which > > > > gives > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very > bad > > > > and > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra > and > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) .. So while mentioning this > > > > bhavas I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on > platform > > > > of > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between > dusthana > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on > > > > being in > > > > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize > > > > Buddha > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it > gives > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive > > > > nature, > > > > > > > > advise > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth > can > > > > give > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also > > > > there - > > > > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in > reading > > > > the > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and > 12th? > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Namaste Sri SoulWhat is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or its adverse placement? Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Thanx again Bharat, but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely affected simultaneously? brgds, SS sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote:>> Namaste Sri Soul > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It is in a> powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in overcoming the> problems faced in 9th house. > > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak wrote:> >> > Dear Bharat,> >> > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays -> > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the> > contrary likes green the best!> > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am skeptical> > about placement of the same in dusthana.> >> > brgds,> > SS> >> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, " Bharat - > > Hindu Astrology " > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Sri Soul> > >> > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring > > Sarala> > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may> > suffer but> > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > >> > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations > > even> > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything> > needs to> > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya> > numerical > > > yantra.> > >> > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native> > can wear> > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart > > chakra.> > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > >> > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain> > what u> > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over> > Lagna> > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > >> > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be> > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone> > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to> > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > >> > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest> > stone> > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.> > > >> > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > SS> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%40gro > > ups.com>, Rafal> >> > Gendarz> > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > >> > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > >> > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than > > > > occult. In> > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS.> > This> > > > yoga > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > loose morals.> > > > >> > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > > > >> > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > >> > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana > > with> > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will> > > > afflict> > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > >> > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish> > > > Vedanga.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > >> > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h > > > > (marana> > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into> > occult.> > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > > meditative> > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > >> > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta > > (weak),> > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange> > b/w> > > > Ju> > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be > > good or> > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the> > > > lagna> > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh > > (and> > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > >> > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion > > seems> > > > to be> > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur> > reply> > > > > > there)> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > < vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Asha,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > ------------ --------- -----> > > > > > >> > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are> > > > > > Oopachaya> > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please > > refer> > > > my> > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house> > > > from> > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for > > > > example> > > > > > in> > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which> > gives> > > > > > occult > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad> > and> > > > > > shows> > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and > > > > faith> > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this> > bhavas I> > > > was> > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform > > of> > > > > > Dusthanas.> > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana> > > > lord> > > > > > and > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on> > being in> > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize > > Buddha> > > > & > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives> > occult> > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive > > nature,> > > > > > advise> > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can> > give> > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also > > there -> > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading > > the> > > > > > results.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hope it helps.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji,> > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th?> > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear SS, Namaskar 8H in D4 afflicts comforts. Lagnesh in eight gives knowledge of occult and hazardous mentality per Parasara. If malefic is there it can hamper longevity (Sani for sure) or gives ilness, if there is kona lord then Raja Yoga (laksmi or raja) will come in abnormal or shortlasted situation. Nakshatra lord of Moon will tell how long.. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Soul Sadhak napisał(a): Dear Rafal, Then Me as L-1 and L-4 in 8h will damage 1h and 4h signifactions? Thanx a tonne SS sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear SS, > > If you have malefcics in dusthana then its good because they are not in > place of support and wishes, but if they are strong then they can give > court cases and hostility. Now we ve been taught that Asura Grahas dwell > well in Randhr bhava while Sura ones in second bhava, but still if tenth > lord is in eight then it is Duryoga, but there will be no so much > suffering like with Sura being in eight bhava. Its connected to Mandara > Mountain. > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa. fora.pl > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafal and Sharat, > > > > thanx again, but what is meant by "not good for lordship" does it > > mean > > > > a. not good for the hs it lords when placed in 8h - as in this > > native's chart > > > > or > > > > b. does it mean that Me lording 8h is not good - as in my chart L- 8 > > in 12h > > > > Thanx a tonne > > SS > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > "Sharat" <gidoc@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Yes, thanks for catching that. > > > > > > Best > > > > > > Sharat > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Sharat, > > > > > > > > But not for lordship. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > Sharat napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > > > > > > > > > Dear SS, > > > > > > > > > > Mercury in 8H is considered a good position. Did you know that? > > > > > > > > > > Best > > > > > > > > > > Sharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Soul Sadhak" soulsadhak@ ..> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > Wednesdays - > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native > > on > > > the > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see > > is > > > it's > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ...but am > > skeptical > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > > > > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha > > will > > > bring > > > > > > Sarala > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house > > may > > > > > > suffer but > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > > significations > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If > > > anything > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a > > Surya > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > yantra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The > > > native > > > > > > can wear > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the > > heart > > > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you > > explain > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh > > wrt > > > the > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very > > bad and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern > > over > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native > > shd not > > > be > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > (sohamsa) - > > > the > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly > > mistakes > > > in > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that > > > stone > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him > > better > > > to > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still > > > suggest > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in > > > exchange > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40gro u > > ps.com>, > > > Rafal > > > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma > > than > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per > > > BPHS. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until > > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in > > > parivartana > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises > > which > > > will > > > > > > > > afflict > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in > > Jyotish > > > > > > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, > > Mo in > > > 8h > > > > > > > > (marana > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving > > into > > > > > > occult. > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in > > Ta > > > > > > (weak), > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's > > > exchange > > > > > > b/w > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will > > it be > > > > > > good or > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it > > harm > > > the > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from > > > lagnesh > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may > > veiw > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > punishment? > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the > > discussion > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may > > skip ur > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal > > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. > > This > > > are > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial > > > (please > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that > > fifth > > > house > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of > > native > > > (for > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord > > which > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > very > > > bad > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to > > mantra > > > and > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning > > this > > > > > > bhavas I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on > > > platform > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between > > > dusthana > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas > > depending on > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra > > eugolize > > > > > > Buddha > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it > > > gives > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and > > secretive > > > > > > nature, > > > > > > > > > > advise > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in > > twelfth > > > can > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is > > also > > > > > > there - > > > > > > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in > > > reading > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and > > > 12th? > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 So you can strengthen Mercury right?Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak > wrote: Hi Bharat, I wud think placement in dusthana. brds, SS sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Sri Soul > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or its adverse > placement? > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely affected > > simultaneously? > > > > brgds, > > > > SS > > > > > > sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It is in a > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in overcoming the > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on Wednesdays - > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native on the > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see is it's > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am skeptical > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > SS > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat - > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring > > > > Sarala > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may > > > > suffer but > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations > > > > even > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything > > > > needs to > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya > > > > numerical > > > > > yantra. > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native > > > > can wear > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain > > > > what u > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over > > > > Lagna > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest > > > > stone > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro ups.com > > ><sohamsa%40gro > > > > ups.com>, Rafal > > > > > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > This > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana > > > > with > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will > > > > > > afflict > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish > > > > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h > > > > > > (marana > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into > > > > occult. > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta > > > > (weak), > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange > > > > b/w > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be > > > > good or > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh > > > > (and > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion > > > > seems > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur > > > > reply > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please > > > > refer > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which > > > > gives > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad > > > > and > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this > > > > bhavas I > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform > > > > of > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on > > > > being in > > > > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize > > > > Buddha > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive > > > > nature, > > > > > > > > advise > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can > > > > give > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also > > > > there - > > > > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading > > > > the > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask the writer's blog for the same. Now:A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given more benevolence. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: how do we reconcile this statement then: " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th), they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent benefic nature to do good. " http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-i.html brds and thanx a tonne SS sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: > > > > Hi Bharat, > > > > I wud think placement in dusthana. > > > > brds, > > SS > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat - > > Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or its > > adverse > > > placement? > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely affected > > > > simultaneously? > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat - > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It > > is in a > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in > > overcoming the > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > Wednesdays - > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native > > on the > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see > > is it's > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am > > skeptical > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > > > > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa% > > 40>, " Bharat - > > > > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha > > will bring > > > > > > Sarala > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house > > may > > > > > > suffer but > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > significations > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If > > anything > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a > > Surya > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > yantra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The > > native > > > > > > can wear > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the > > heart > > > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you > > explain > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh > > wrt the > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very > > bad and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > over > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native > > shd not be > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly > > mistakes in > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing > > that stone > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him > > better to > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still > > suggest > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in > > exchange > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa%40gro > > ups.com > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro > > > > > > ups.com>, Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma > > than > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga > > per BPHS. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in > > parivartana > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises > > which will > > > > > > > > afflict > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in > > Jyotish > > > > > > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > (marana > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving > > into > > > > > > occult. > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in > > Ta > > > > > > (weak), > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's > > exchange > > > > > > b/w > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will > > it be > > > > > > good or > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it > > harm the > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from > > lagnesh > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may > > veiw > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > punishment? > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the > > discussion > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may > > skip ur > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. > > This are > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial > > (please > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that > > fifth house > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of > > native (for > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord > > which > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > very bad > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to > > mantra and > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning > > this > > > > > > bhavas I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on > > platform > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between > > dusthana > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas > > depending on > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra > > eugolize > > > > > > Buddha > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it > > gives > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and > > secretive > > > > > > nature, > > > > > > > > > > advise > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in > > twelfth can > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is > > also > > > > > > there - > > > > > > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in > > reading > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and > > 12th? > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear SS, Nope, Yogakaraka in dusthana is still rajayoga, this is in my article from Jyotish Digest. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Soul Sadhak napisał(a): how do we reconcile this statement then: "Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th), they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent benefic nature to do good." http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- i.html brds and thanx a tonne SS sohamsa@ ..com, "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" <astrologyhindu@ ...> wrote: > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hi Bharat, > > > > I wud think placement in dusthana. > > > > brds, > > SS > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com>, "Bharat - > > Hindu Astrology" > > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or its > > adverse > > > placement? > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely affected > > > > simultaneously? > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com>, "Bharat - > > Hindu Astrology" > > > > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It > > is in a > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in > > overcoming the > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > Wednesdays - > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native > > on the > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see > > is it's > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ...but am > > skeptical > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > > > > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com><sohamsa% > > 40. com>, "Bharat - > > > > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology" > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha > > will bring > > > > > > Sarala > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house > > may > > > > > > suffer but > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > significations > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If > > anything > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a > > Surya > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > yantra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The > > native > > > > > > can wear > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the > > heart > > > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you > > explain > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh > > wrt the > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very > > bad and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern > > over > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native > > shd not be > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly > > mistakes in > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing > > that stone > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him > > better to > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still > > suggest > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in > > exchange > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com><sohamsa% 40gro > > ups.com > > > > ><sohamsa%40gr o > > > > > > ups.com>, Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma > > than > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga > > per BPHS. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in > > parivartana > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises > > which will > > > > > > > > afflict > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in > > Jyotish > > > > > > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > (marana > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving > > into > > > > > > occult. > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in > > Ta > > > > > > (weak), > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's > > exchange > > > > > > b/w > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will > > it be > > > > > > good or > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it > > harm the > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from > > lagnesh > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may > > veiw > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > punishment? > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the > > discussion > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may > > skip ur > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. > > This are > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial > > (please > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that > > fifth house > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of > > native (for > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord > > which > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > very bad > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to > > mantra and > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning > > this > > > > > > bhavas I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on > > platform > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between > > dusthana > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas > > depending on > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra > > eugolize > > > > > > Buddha > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it > > gives > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and > > secretive > > > > > > nature, > > > > > > > > > > advise > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in > > twelfth can > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is > > also > > > > > > there - > > > > > > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in > > reading > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and > > 12th? > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2007 Report Share Posted August 3, 2007 || Jaya Jagannath || Dear all, There are few things to note here, 1. If lords of good houses such as Kendra or Kona are in dusthanas, it is simply a bad yoga, which can diminish the capacity of the Kendra or kona lords to give good results and their houses suffer as well. The problem heightens, if they are afflicted. 2. If there is a yoga formation in the dusthanas due to the placement of the Kendra and kona lords, then the above condition is reversed and if planets are strongly placed, the yoga will fructify, however in the area shown by the dusthana or after events related to the dusthanas. 3. If a yogakaraka planet is placed in dusthana, then the yoga giving power of the planet is considerably affected, unless it happens to be Saturn, the karaka of the dusthanas. 4. If above planets placed in dusthanas are strong, they give better results than when they are weak and / or afflicted. As of the dictum mentioned below, if you are selecting a gemstone, you need to be very careful of what kind of results it can give. A planet give results due to three conditions, which are: 1. Based on its inherent nature (highest when it is not conjoined or aspected) – it has most impact on the nature of the person 2. Based on its lordship (highest when there are no planets when in its house) – it has most impact on the situations and circumstances 3. Based on its placement (highest when it is placed in the bhava madhya) – it has most impact on the situation and circumstances The above results are even modified by aspects, conjunctions, argala etc. When you are selecting a gemstone, you have to weigh all the positives and negatives of the planet. If the planet is positive from various aspects and negatives from some aspects, then you can chose it. It will not however, prevent from the negatives from happening… Its just that the positives outweigh the negatives. Best Wishes Sarajit sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz Friday, August 03, 2007 1:03 PM sohamsa Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji hraum namah adityaya Dear SS, Nope, Yogakaraka in dusthana is still rajayoga, this is in my article from Jyotish Digest. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Rohinaa ashram: http://www.rohinaa.fora.pl Soul Sadhak napisa³(a): how do we reconcile this statement then: " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th), they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent benefic nature to do good. " http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- i.html brds and thanx a tonne SS sohamsa@ .com, " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu@ ...> wrote: > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ ...> wrote: > > > > Hi Bharat, > > > > I wud think placement in dusthana. > > > > brds, > > SS > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com>, " Bharat - > > Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or its > > adverse > > > placement? > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > Bharat > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely affected > > > > simultaneously? > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com>, " Bharat - > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > <astrologyhindu@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi. It > > is in a > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in > > overcoming the > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > Wednesdays - > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the native > > on the > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i see > > is it's > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine) ....but am > > skeptical > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > > > > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ ..com <sohamsa% 40. com><sohamsa% > > 40. com>, " Bharat - > > > > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha > > will bring > > > > > > Sarala > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house > > may > > > > > > suffer but > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > significations > > > > > > even > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If > > anything > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a > > Surya > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > yantra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The > > native > > > > > > can wear > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the > > heart > > > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you > > explain > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh > > wrt the > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very > > bad and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > over > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native > > shd not be > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly > > mistakes in > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing > > that stone > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him > > better to > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still > > suggest > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in > > exchange > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com><sohamsa% 40gro > > ups.com > > > > ><sohamsa%40gr o > > > > > > ups.com>, Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma > > than > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga > > per BPHS. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in > > parivartana > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises > > which will > > > > > > > > afflict > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in > > Jyotish > > > > > > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > (marana > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving > > into > > > > > > occult. > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in > > Ta > > > > > > (weak), > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's > > exchange > > > > > > b/w > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will > > it be > > > > > > good or > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it > > harm the > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from > > lagnesh > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may > > veiw > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > punishment? > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the > > discussion > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may > > skip ur > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology@ . com > > > > > > > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. > > This are > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial > > (please > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that > > fifth house > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of > > native (for > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord > > which > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > very bad > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to > > mantra and > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning > > this > > > > > > bhavas I > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on > > platform > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between > > dusthana > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas > > depending on > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra > > eugolize > > > > > > Buddha > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it > > gives > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and > > secretive > > > > > > nature, > > > > > > > > > > advise > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in > > twelfth can > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is > > also > > > > > > there - > > > > > > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in > > reading > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and > > 12th? > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Namaste Sri Soul Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered helpless in many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to protect the significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best to do Puja, strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a protection against any malefic results. Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury also aspects Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna lord. In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to be strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's numerical Yantra in a Silver locket. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Dear Bharat,certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in question. it is commonplace for those who start studing astrology or for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly) conflicting statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution. Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who read thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard. ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is that if fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening it (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a malefic placement)now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results - if this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect from Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me. so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic effect or enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)? esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or aspect it.brgds and thanx for putting up SSsohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote:> > I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask> the writer's blog for the same.> > Now:> A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can> give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a> kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not> happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it> to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome> the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which> is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord> Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden> changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given> more benevolence.> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:> >> > how do we reconcile this statement then: > >> > " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th> > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),> > they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent > > benefic nature to do good. " > >> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- i.html> >> > brds and thanx a tonne> > SS> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat -> > Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > >> > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Bharat, > > > >> > > > I wud think placement in dusthana.> > > >> > > > brds,> > > > SS> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%> > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or> > its> > > > adverse> > > > > placement?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat> > > > >> > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > >> > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely> > affected> > > > > > simultaneously?> > > > > > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > >> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa% > > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi.> > It> > > > is in a> > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in> > > > overcoming the> > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > > > Wednesdays -> > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the> > native> > > > on the> > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i> > see> > > > is it's> > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am > > > > skeptical> > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%> > > > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha> > > > will bring> > > > > > > > Sarala> > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th> > house> > > > may > > > > > > > > suffer but> > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > > > significations> > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If> > > > anything > > > > > > > > needs to> > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear> > a> > > > Surya> > > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > > > yantra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person.> > The > > > > native> > > > > > > > can wear> > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the> > > > heart > > > > > > > > chakra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you> > > > explain> > > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from> > Lagnesh> > > > wrt the > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very> > > > bad and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my > > concern> > > > over> > > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native> > > > shd not be> > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > > > (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly> > > > mistakes in> > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing> > > > that stone> > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done> > him> > > > better to> > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u> > still> > > > suggest> > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also> > in> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the > > question.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%40gro> > > > ups.com> > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro> > > > > > > > ups.com >, Rafal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more> > dharma> > > > than> > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga> > > > per BPHS. > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until> > > > childbirth.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in> > > > parivartana> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises> > > > which will > > > > > > > > > > afflict> > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in> > > > Jyotish> > > > > > > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in> > 8h,> > > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > > > (marana> > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify> > delving> > > > into > > > > > > > > occult.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for> > moksha /> > > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke> > is in> > > > Ta> > > > > > > > (weak),> > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but> > there's > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > b/w> > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,> > will> > > > it be> > > > > > > > good or> > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but> > wont it > > > > harm the> > > > > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th> > from > > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > (and> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native> > may> > > > veiw> > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > > > punishment?> > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, > > india.> > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the> > > > discussion> > > > > > > > seems> > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may> > > > skip ur> > > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > < vedic astrology%40>, Rafal> > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.> > > > This are> > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural> > zodial> > > > (please> > > > > > > > refer> > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that> > > > fifth house> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of> > > > native (for> > > > > > > > > > example> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana> > Lord> > > > which> > > > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > are> > > > very bad> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem> > to> > > > mantra and> > > > > > > > > > faith> > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning> > > > this> > > > > > > > bhavas I> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move> > on> > > > platform> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha> > between> > > > dusthana> > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas> > > > depending on> > > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra> > > > eugolize > > > > > > > > Buddha> > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in > > eight it> > > > gives> > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and> > > > secretive > > > > > > > > nature,> > > > > > > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in> > > > twelfth can> > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is> > > > also > > > > > > > > there -> > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER> > PRIORITY in> > > > reading > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th> > and> > > > 12th?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Bharat, Should you not actually strengthen the karaka of the house..if you feel the lord is weak or in MKS; not specifically here though. Best Sharat PS: I dont recollect her natal chart now, so cant comment on that - Bharat - Hindu Astrology sohamsa Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:00 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji Namaste Sri Soul Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered helpless in many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to protect the significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best to do Puja, strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a protection against any malefic results. Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury also aspects Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna lord. In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to be strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's numerical Yantra in a Silver locket. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak > wrote: Dear Bharat,certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in question. it is commonplace for those who start studing astrology or for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly) conflicting statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution. Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who read thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard. ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is that if fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening it (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a malefic placement)now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results - if this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect from Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me. so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic effect or enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)? esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or aspect it.brgds and thanx for putting up SSsohamsa , "Bharat - Hindu Astrology" <astrologyhindu wrote:> > I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask> the writer's blog for the same.> > Now:> A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can> give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a> kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not> happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it> to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome> the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which> is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord> Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden> changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given> more benevolence.> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:> >> > how do we reconcile this statement then: > >> > "Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th> > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),> > they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent > > benefic nature to do good."> >> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- i.html> >> > brds and thanx a tonne> > SS> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, "Bharat -> > Hindu Astrology"> > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > >> > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Bharat, > > > >> > > > I wud think placement in dusthana.> > > >> > > > brds,> > > > SS> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40> <sohamsa%> > 40>, "Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology"> > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or> > its> > > > adverse> > > > > placement?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat> > > > >> > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > >> > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely> > affected> > > > > > simultaneously?> > > > > > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > >> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa% > > 40>, "Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology"> > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi.> > It> > > > is in a> > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in> > > > overcoming the> > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > > > Wednesdays -> > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the> > native> > > > on the> > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i> > see> > > > is it's> > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am > > > > skeptical> > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%> > > > 40>, "Bharat -> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology"> > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha> > > > will bring> > > > > > > > Sarala> > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th> > house> > > > may > > > > > > > > suffer but> > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > > > significations> > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If> > > > anything > > > > > > > > needs to> > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear> > a> > > > Surya> > > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > > > yantra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person.> > The > > > > native> > > > > > > > can wear> > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the> > > > heart> > > > > > > > chakra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you> > > > explain> > > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from> > Lagnesh> > > > wrt the > > > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very> > > > bad and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my > > concern> > > > over> > > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native> > > > shd not be> > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > > > (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly> > > > mistakes in> > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing> > > > that stone> > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done> > him> > > > better to> > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u> > still> > > > suggest> > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also> > in> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the > > question.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%40gro> > > > ups.com> > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro> > > > > > > > ups.com >, Rafal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more> > dharma> > > > than> > > > > > > > > > occult. In> > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga> > > > per BPHS. > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until> > > > childbirth.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in> > > > parivartana> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises> > > > which will > > > > > > > > > > afflict> > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in> > > > Jyotish> > > > > > > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in> > 8h,> > > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > > > (marana> > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify> > delving> > > > into> > > > > > > > occult.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for> > moksha /> > > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke> > is in> > > > Ta> > > > > > > > (weak),> > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but> > there's > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > b/w> > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,> > will> > > > it be> > > > > > > > good or> > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but> > wont it > > > > harm the> > > > > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th> > from> > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > (and> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native> > may> > > > veiw> > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > > > punishment?> > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, > > india.> > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the> > > > discussion> > > > > > > > seems> > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may> > > > skip ur> > > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > < vedic astrology%40>, Rafal> > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.> > > > This are> > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural> > zodial> > > > (please> > > > > > > > refer> > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that> > > > fifth house> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of> > > > native (for> > > > > > > > > > example> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana> > Lord> > > > which> > > > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > are> > > > very bad> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem> > to> > > > mantra and> > > > > > > > > > faith> > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning> > > > this> > > > > > > > bhavas I> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move> > on> > > > platform> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha> > between> > > > dusthana> > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas> > > > depending on> > > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra> > > > eugolize > > > > > > > > Buddha> > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in > > eight it> > > > gives> > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and> > > > secretive > > > > > > > > nature,> > > > > > > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in> > > > twelfth can> > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is> > > > also > > > > > > > > there -> > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER> > PRIORITY in> > > > reading > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th> > and> > > > 12th?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2007 Report Share Posted August 4, 2007 Namaste Sri SharatYou can provided it is not a major functional malefic.In this case, Rahu is aspecting Mercury by Rashi Drishti. Personally, I take rashi drishti to effect change in the kshetra and not the graha. Therefore, for practical purposes strengthening of Mercury will help in this case. It is also important from the point of view of longevity. The person is only 13 years old and I do not think he should wear a Blue Sapphire right now. Moreover the main question was about something else and that is why I had specified the said remedies in my first post. Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/4/07, Sharat <gidoc wrote: ||Namah Shivaya|| Dear Bharat, Should you not actually strengthen the karaka of the house..if you feel the lord is weak or in MKS; not specifically here though. Best Sharat PS: I dont recollect her natal chart now, so cant comment on that - Bharat - Hindu Astrology sohamsa Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:00 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji Namaste Sri Soul Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered helpless in many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to protect the significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best to do Puja, strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a protection against any malefic results. Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury also aspects Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna lord. In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to be strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's numerical Yantra in a Silver locket. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Dear Bharat,certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in question. it is commonplace for those who start studing astrology or for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly) conflicting statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution. Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who read thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard. ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is that if fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening it (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a malefic placement)now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results - if this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect from Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me. so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic effect or enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)? esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or aspect it.brgds and thanx for putting up SSsohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote:> > I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have to ask> the writer's blog for the same.> > Now:> A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic grahas can> give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets a> kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment does not> happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard for it> to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can overcome> the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th house, which> is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna lord> Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations and sudden> changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is given> more benevolence.> > Thanks and Regards> Bharat> > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote:> >> > how do we reconcile this statement then: > >> > " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, 5th> > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th),> > they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent > > benefic nature to do good. " > >> > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- i.html> >> > brds and thanx a tonne> > SS> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat -> > Hindu Astrology " > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > >> > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > >> > > Thanks and Regards> > > Bharat> > >> > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Hi Bharat, > > > >> > > > I wud think placement in dusthana.> > > >> > > > brds,> > > > SS> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro ups.com> <sohamsa%> > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it Mercury or> > its> > > > adverse> > > > > placement?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > Bharat> > > > >> > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > >> > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely> > affected> > > > > > simultaneously?> > > > > > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > >> > > > > > SS> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40><sohamsa% > > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the Yogi.> > It> > > > is in a> > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in> > > > overcoming the> > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Bharat,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input.> > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > > > Wednesdays -> > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the> > native> > > > on the> > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though what i> > see> > > > is it's> > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am > > > > skeptical> > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > brgds,> > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%> > > > 40>, " Bharat -> > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha> > > > will bring> > > > > > > > Sarala> > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th> > house> > > > may > > > > > > > > suffer but> > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > > > significations> > > > > > > > even> > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If> > > > anything > > > > > > > > needs to> > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear> > a> > > > Surya> > > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > > > yantra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person.> > The > > > > native> > > > > > > > can wear> > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the> > > > heart> > > > > > > > chakra.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards> > > > > > > > > Bharat> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you> > > > explain> > > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from> > Lagnesh> > > > wrt the > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very> > > > bad and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my > > concern> > > > over> > > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native> > > > shd not be> > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > > > (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly> > > > mistakes in> > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing> > > > that stone> > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done> > him> > > > better to> > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u> > still> > > > suggest> > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also> > in> > > > exchange> > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the > > question.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa%> > 40><sohamsa%40gro> > > > ups.com> > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro> > > > > > > > ups.com >, Rafal> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more> > dharma> > > > than> > > > > > > > > > occult. In> > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga> > > > per BPHS. > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until> > > > childbirth.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in> > > > parivartana> > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises> > > > which will > > > > > > > > > > afflict> > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in> > > > Jyotish> > > > > > > > > > Vedanga.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in> > 8h,> > > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > > > (marana> > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify> > delving> > > > into> > > > > > > > occult.> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for> > moksha /> > > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke> > is in> > > > Ta> > > > > > > > (weak),> > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but> > there's > > > > exchange> > > > > > > > b/w> > > > > > > > > > Ju> > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye,> > will> > > > it be> > > > > > > > good or> > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but> > wont it > > > > harm the> > > > > > > > > > lagna> > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th> > from> > > > lagnesh> > > > > > > > (and> > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native> > may> > > > veiw> > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > > > punishment?> > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, > > india.> > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the> > > > discussion> > > > > > > > seems> > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may> > > > skip ur> > > > > > > > reply> > > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne,> > > > > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology> > > > > > > > > > > > < vedic astrology%40>, Rafal> > > > Gendarz> > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara.> > > > This are> > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural> > zodial> > > > (please> > > > > > > > refer> > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that> > > > fifth house> > > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of> > > > native (for> > > > > > > > > > example> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana> > Lord> > > > which> > > > > > > > gives> > > > > > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > are> > > > very bad> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > shows> > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem> > to> > > > mantra and> > > > > > > > > > faith> > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning> > > > this> > > > > > > > bhavas I> > > > > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move> > on> > > > platform> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha> > between> > > > dusthana> > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas> > > > depending on> > > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or> > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra> > > > eugolize > > > > > > > > Buddha> > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus> > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in > > eight it> > > > gives> > > > > > > > occult> > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and> > > > secretive > > > > > > > > nature,> > > > > > > > > > > > advise> > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in> > > > twelfth can> > > > > > > > give> > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is> > > > also > > > > > > > > there -> > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara)> > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER> > PRIORITY in> > > > reading > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > > results.> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th> > and> > > > 12th?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed]> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 6, 2007 Report Share Posted August 6, 2007 Namaste Sri SoulMercury is viveka, discrimination, ability to reason. Suppose you want to reason out what is right or wrong, then, you would need the knowledge of Dharma to do so. If is not able to see Dharma in true light, then, one's judgement will be faulty. This is the reason why Budha-Aditya Yoga is so important. It lets a person takes decision in the light of Trikalajnani Surya Devta. In case when Mercury is associated with malefic grahas (through conjunction or graha drishti), then it may lose its ability to judge in light of dharma. Then, the standards may become the significations of the aspecting of grahas, etc. For example, in the chart under discussion, Mercury is with Moon. So the native is prone to reactiveness and emotional decision making that may be rash to some extent. The person, even on small things, is likely to think that others have disrespected him. Considering this why Emerald?. Because it is the Yogi. Being a Yogi, even when it is away from Surya, it has the capacity to make rational decision making. It needs strength to overcome emotional being. Rahu's rashi drishti will make the environment around him a little deceptive in nature. A strong Mercury can see through the deception of Rahu, especially blessed by Surya and Chandra (being a yogi). Hope the above helps.Thanks and RegardsBharatOn 8/6/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak > wrote: Thanx Bharat and Sharat (that rhymes!) all that is so interesting. it is understandable that a natural benefic that is weak should be strenghthened, however, Me is a nat ben only when well placed - isnt it? and Me acquires nature of aspecting planets - here it is conj Mo (nat ben) and asp by Ra and Ke (rasi drishti). (Yantra and Pooja are agreeable, though) But why wud we consider Neelam, Sa lords dusthana as well, and placed in 9h as L-9 is being troublesome to father too or spares father since lord wud not harm it's own hs, however, placed with nat karaka for father Su? Sharat: details are: 09/mar/1994, 12:53 hrs, Amritsar Thanx a tonne. sohamsa , " Bharat - Hindu Astrology " <astrologyhindu wrote: > > Namaste Sri Sharat > > You can provided it is not a major functional malefic. > > In this case, Rahu is aspecting Mercury by Rashi Drishti. Personally, I take > rashi drishti to effect change in the kshetra and not the graha. Therefore, > for practical purposes strengthening of Mercury will help in this case. It > is also important from the point of view of longevity. > > The person is only 13 years old and I do not think he should wear a Blue > Sapphire right now. Moreover the main question was about something else and > that is why I had specified the said remedies in my first post. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 8/4/07, Sharat <gidoc wrote: > > > > ||Namah Shivaya|| > > Dear Bharat, > > Should you not actually strengthen the karaka of the house..if you feel > > the lord is weak or in MKS; not specifically here though. > > Best > > Sharat > > PS: I dont recollect her natal chart now, so cant comment on that > > > > > > - > > ** Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu > > *To:* sohamsa > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:00 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th > > rafal ji > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > Due to the malefic effect, the functional benefic is rendered helpless in > > many cases and unable to give its effects, thereby, unable to protect the > > significations of the houses it owns. In such a case, it is best to do Puja, > > strengthen the graha using gemstone and also wearing a Yantra as a > > protection against any malefic results. > > > > Another thing to understand is, we tend to see the malefic results > > onesidedly. If Rahu aspects Mercury (7th aspect), then, Mercury also aspects > > Rahu. In Rahu's dasha, Mercury shall add benefit being the lagna lord. > > > > In this case, Mercury is also the Yogi and therefore, requires to be > > strengthened. If there be any doubt, then wear it with Mercury's numerical > > Yantra in a Silver locket. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > On 8/4/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > certainly it was not your responsibility but my clarification in > > > question. it is commonplace for those who start studing astrology or > > > for that matter any subject to come across (seemingly) conflicting > > > statements and hence seek to arrive at some resolution. > > > Many thanx for providing your opinion and contributing to the > > > learning process - sicnerely hoping it will help all those who read > > > thru this forum to resolve their own conflicts in this regard. > > > > > > ok! so basically if i understand correctly what you said, is that if > > > fallen in bad placement, it shd be resurrected by strengthening it > > > (esp when there is no malefic effect, and Me in 8h is no a malefic > > > placement) > > > now, if malefic aspect is there it can produce malefic results - if > > > this is so, then in this case, the Me is recieving rasi aspect from > > > Ra and Ke, that wud increase the malefic results produced by Me. > > > so gemstone of Me here wud help Me to overcome the malefic effect or > > > enhance it's maleficence (acquired from Ra-Ke)? > > > esp so since Me adapts the effect of those that conjoin or aspect it. > > > > > > brgds and thanx for putting up > > > SS > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40>, " Bharat - > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am not responsible for what is written by someone else. You have > > > to ask > > > > the writer's blog for the same. > > > > > > > > Now: > > > > A graha, even when lagnesh, in dusthana if aspected by malefic > > > grahas can > > > > give malefic results. Why so? Because in a dusthana the graha meets > > > a > > > > kshetra where it is repeatedly frustrated and desire fulfillment > > > does not > > > > happen. If it is further aspected by malefics, it becomes very hard > > > for it > > > > to overcome near impossible odds. However, if it is strong it can > > > overcome > > > > the Kshetra and rule over it. In this case, Mercury is in 8th > > > house, which > > > > is not considered as a malefic house for Mercury. A stronger lagna > > > lord > > > > Mercury, in 8th house can help overcome a zillion transformations > > > and sudden > > > > changes in life with viveka and determination. Being a Yogi, it is > > > given > > > > more benevolence. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/3/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > how do we reconcile this statement then: > > > > > > > > > > " Hence it must be remembered that a good planet (lords of Lagna, > > > 5th > > > > > and 9th) / Yoga- karaka if placed in a dusthana (6th / 8th/ 12th), > > > > > they can also give malefic results in addition to their inherent > > > > > benefic nature to do good. " > > > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in- jyotish- > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > brds and thanx a tonne > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%40gro ups.com> <sohamsa% > > > 40>, " Bharat - > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So you can strengthen Mercury right? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bharat, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud think placement in dusthana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brds, > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa%40gro > > > ups.com> > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40>, " Bharat - > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is causing the significations to suffer - Is it > > > Mercury or > > > > > its > > > > > > > adverse > > > > > > > > placement? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/2/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again Bharat, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but wud'nt the signifactions of 1h and 4h get adversely > > > > > affected > > > > > > > > > simultaneously? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa% > > > 40><sohamsa% > > > > > 40>, " Bharat - > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > > > > <astrologyhindu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8th house is where Mercury flourishes. It is also the > > > Yogi. > > > > > It > > > > > > > is in a > > > > > > > > > > powerful navamsha and in Mars's nakshatra and helps in > > > > > > > overcoming the > > > > > > > > > > problems faced in 9th house. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/1/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bharat, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne for ur input. > > > > > > > > > > > The native was advised to donate greens (veggies) on > > > > > > > Wednesdays - > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps due to Me being in 8h (dusthana), however the > > > > > native > > > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > > contrary likes green the best! > > > > > > > > > > > What wud be ur reason of advising Emerald - though > > > what i > > > > > see > > > > > > > is it's > > > > > > > > > > > for lagna lord/yogakaraka (lord kendra+trine)...but am > > > > > > > skeptical > > > > > > > > > > > about placement of the same in dusthana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brgds, > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa > > > <sohamsa%40><sohamsa% > > > 40><sohamsa% > > > > > 40><sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40>, " Bharat - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hindu Astrology " > > > > > > > > > > > astrologyhindu@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Sri Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's > > > dasha > > > > > > > will bring > > > > > > > > > > > Sarala > > > > > > > > > > > > Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th > > > > > house > > > > > > > may > > > > > > > > > > > suffer but > > > > > > > > > > > > health should not except for minor ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house > > > > > > > significations > > > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > > > more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's > > > eye. If > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > > > > needs to > > > > > > > > > > > > be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, > > > wear > > > > > a > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > > numerical > > > > > > > > > > > > yantra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this > > > person. > > > > > The > > > > > > > native > > > > > > > > > > > can wear > > > > > > > > > > > > it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant > > > on the > > > > > > > heart > > > > > > > > > > > chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Bharat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak soulsadhak@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > cud you > > > > > > > explain > > > > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from > > > > > Lagnesh > > > > > > > wrt the > > > > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > very > > > > > > > bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my > > > > > concern > > > > > > > over > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, > > > native > > > > > > > shd not be > > > > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg > > > > > > > (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day- dreamings, > > > silly > > > > > > > mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > wearing > > > > > > > that stone > > > > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > done > > > > > him > > > > > > > better to > > > > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u > > > > > still > > > > > > > suggest > > > > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju- Ve are > > > also > > > > > in > > > > > > > exchange > > > > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the > > > > > question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa <sohamsa% 40><sohamsa% > > > 40><sohamsa% > > > > > 40><sohamsa%40gro > > > > > > > ups.com > > > > > > > > > ><sohamsa%40gro > > > > > > > > > > > ups.com >, Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more > > > > > dharma > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada > > > yoga > > > > > > > per BPHS. > > > > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage > > > until > > > > > > > childbirth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its > > > in > > > > > > > parivartana > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity > > > rises > > > > > > > which will > > > > > > > > > > > > > afflict > > > > > > > > > > > > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good > > > ability in > > > > > > > Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedanga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is > > > in > > > > > 8h, > > > > > > > Mo in 8h > > > > > > > > > > > > > (marana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify > > > > > delving > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > > occult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for > > > > > moksha / > > > > > > > > > > > meditative > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but > > > Ke > > > > > is in > > > > > > > Ta > > > > > > > > > > > (weak), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but > > > > > there's > > > > > > > exchange > > > > > > > > > > > b/w > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ju > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats > > > eye, > > > > > will > > > > > > > it be > > > > > > > > > > > good or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but > > > > > wont it > > > > > > > harm the > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th > > > > > from > > > > > > > lagnesh > > > > > > > > > > > (and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the > > > native > > > > > may > > > > > > > veiw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a > > > > > > > punishment? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, > > > > > india. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the > > > > > > > discussion > > > > > > > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > to be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u > > > may > > > > > > > skip ur > > > > > > > > > > > reply > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < vedic astrology% 40>, > > > Rafal > > > > > > > Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and > > > Hara. > > > > > > > This are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural > > > > > zodial > > > > > > > (please > > > > > > > > > > > refer > > > > > > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see > > > that > > > > > > > fifth house > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows > > > likings of > > > > > > > native (for > > > > > > > > > > > > > example > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as > > > Karana > > > > > Lord > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM > > > LAGNESH > > > > > are > > > > > > > very bad > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also > > > problem > > > > > to > > > > > > > mantra and > > > > > > > > > > > > > faith > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while > > > mentioning > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > bhavas I > > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we > > > move > > > > > on > > > > > > > platform > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha > > > > > between > > > > > > > dusthana > > > > > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas > > > > > > > depending on > > > > > > > > > > > being in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sura or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that > > > Sastra > > > > > > > eugolize > > > > > > > > > > > Buddha > > > > > > > > > > > > > & > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in > > > > > eight it > > > > > > > gives > > > > > > > > > > > occult > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and > > > > > > > secretive > > > > > > > > > > > nature, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advise > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh > > > in > > > > > > > twelfth can > > > > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when > > > Shukra is > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > there - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parasara) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER > > > > > PRIORITY in > > > > > > > reading > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about > > > 8th > > > > > and > > > > > > > 12th? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the > > > result > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the > > > result? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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