Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Rafal ji, Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? asha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Asha, Lets start with basics: -------------------------- SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are Oopachaya house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example in my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives occult vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and shows what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith (maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was referring to placement from Lagnesh. EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of Dusthanas. Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord and Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in Sura or Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & Venus position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, advise for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - Parasara) but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the results. Hope it helps. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com ASHA napisa?(a): > > > Rafal ji, > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > asha > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual with lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to sacrifice/giving tendencies. Can you please clarify bhagavathi vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Asha, > > Lets start with basics: > -------------------------- > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are Oopachaya > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example in > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives occult > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and shows > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > (maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of Dusthanas. > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord and > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in Sura or > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & Venus > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, advise > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - Parasara) > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the results. > > Hope it helps. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > asha > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Dear Rafal, in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult. Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak), aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and Mo/chandra-rasi)? Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw self/body/own intelligence/perception as a punishment? what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems to be in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply there) Thanx a tonne, SS vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Asha, > > Lets start with basics: > -------------------------- > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are Oopachaya > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example in > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives occult > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and shows > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > (maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of Dusthanas. > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord and > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in Sura or > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & Venus > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, advise > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - Parasara) > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the results. > > Hope it helps. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > asha > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Dear Rafalji, Dear Rafalji, Suppose somebody has lagnesh in the 8th house and he moves to foreign country with his parents in his childhood. will that be considered going to foreign country or he has to move again when he grows up? Thanks, Nutan - In vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Asha, > > Lets start with basics: > -------------------------- > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are Oopachaya > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example in > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives occult > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and shows > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > (maraka from mantra-bhava). So while mentioning this bhavas I was > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of Dusthanas. > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord and > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in Sura or > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & Venus > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, advise > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > sacrificing/donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - Parasara) > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the results. > > Hope it helps. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > asha > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Bhagavati, *EVERY benefic in second and/or twelfth gives comfort - Shubha Yoga, but that is not neccesarily good for marriage. *Secret diseases? Whats that? you mean adhisthana or way of forming? Badhakesh rather gives that..otherwise vyaya bhava has nothing to do with private parts. *Venus in Twelfth can give good donations. This should be also seen from Karakamsa (See BPHS). If You mean donation of material good then without checking AL you will be misguided *Lagnesh placement ALONE, has nothing to do with morality. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com bhagavathi_hariharan napisa?(a): > > Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When > Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material > comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret > diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual with > lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to sacrifice/giving > tendencies. Can you please clarify > > bhagavathi > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > Lets start with basics: > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > Oopachaya > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example > in > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > occult > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > shows > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > Dusthanas. > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord > and > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > Sura or > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & > Venus > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > advise > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > Parasara) > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > results. > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Soul Sadhak, 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than occult. In bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This yoga is in Upapada also so spouse can have loose morals. 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will afflict comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish Vedanga. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > Dear Rafal, > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult. > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak), > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems to be > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply > there) > > Thanx a tonne, > SS > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > Lets start with basics: > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > Oopachaya > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example > in > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > occult > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > shows > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > Dusthanas. > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord > and > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > Sura or > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & > Venus > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > advise > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > Parasara) > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > results. > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Rafalji, I am indeed thankful to you for prompt resposes. I feel this group is now enriched with your presence. let us use this only for knowledge sake. My humble pranams vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Bhagavati, > > *EVERY benefic in second and/or twelfth gives comfort - Shubha Yoga, but > that is not neccesarily good for marriage. > > *Secret diseases? Whats that? you mean adhisthana or way of forming? > Badhakesh rather gives that..otherwise vyaya bhava has nothing to do > with private parts. > > *Venus in Twelfth can give good donations. This should be also seen from > Karakamsa (See BPHS). If You mean donation of material good then without > checking AL you will be misguided > > *Lagnesh placement ALONE, has nothing to do with morality. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > bhagavathi_hariharan napisa?(a): > > > > Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When > > Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material > > comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret > > diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual with > > lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to sacrifice/giving > > tendencies. Can you please clarify > > > > bhagavathi > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > Oopachaya > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example > > in > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > > occult > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > > Dusthanas. > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord > > and > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > > Sura or > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & > > Venus > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > > advise > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > > Parasara) > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > > results. > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Yes, It's true. Rafal is a great teacher and a great student, both togather. He is obliging us by sharing his knowledge and there are other good astroogers too, and those arrogants with their vision problems are filtered out. regards, Lalit. vedic astrology , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Rafalji, > > I am indeed thankful to you for prompt resposes. I feel this group is > now enriched with your presence. let us use this only for knowledge > sake. > > My humble pranams > > vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Bhagavati, > > > > *EVERY benefic in second and/or twelfth gives comfort - Shubha > Yoga, but > > that is not neccesarily good for marriage. > > > > *Secret diseases? Whats that? you mean adhisthana or way of > forming? > > Badhakesh rather gives that..otherwise vyaya bhava has nothing to > do > > with private parts. > > > > *Venus in Twelfth can give good donations. This should be also seen > from > > Karakamsa (See BPHS). If You mean donation of material good then > without > > checking AL you will be misguided > > > > *Lagnesh placement ALONE, has nothing to do with morality. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal@ > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > bhagavathi_hariharan napisa?(a): > > > > > > Rafalji, just for learning interest- I am having a doubt. When > > > Lagnesh venus is in 12th, Venus in that place gives material > > > comforts. Aspect on 6th house, Venus in that house gives secret > > > diseases. What about the character/morality of that individual > with > > > lagnesh in 12th. How can venus in 12th give raise to > sacrifice/giving > > > tendencies. Can you please clarify > > > > > > bhagavathi > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > > Oopachaya > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer > my > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house > from > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for > example > > > in > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > > > occult > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > shows > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and > faith > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I > was > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > > > Dusthanas. > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana > lord > > > and > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > > > Sura or > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha > & > > > Venus > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > > > advise > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > > > Parasara) > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > > > results. > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Dear Rafal, thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over Lagna 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to treat this Ke (in 12h). Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. Thanx a tonne SS vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than occult. In > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This yoga > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > loose morals. > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will afflict > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish Vedanga. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult. > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak), > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems to be > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply > > there) > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > SS > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > Oopachaya > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example > > in > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > > occult > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > > Dusthanas. > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord > > and > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > > Sura or > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & > > Venus > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > > advise > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > > Parasara) > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > > results. > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Soul Sadhak, 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would be in seventh bhava we will perscribe Coral and everything will be nice..No its not like that. Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. Yes, Ucchista Ganapati worship is neccesary. 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in ninth) with Kamala Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated). This will allow to marry without delay. Then after that Narayana Mantra will be important to sustain marriage. He has 3 yogas which shows gain from inheritance. He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, interest in medicine and good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and will be strong warrior and he can have buisness with printing books or working with publishing. He can also gain from occult and will be know as sensitive and dynamic person. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Soul Sadhak napisał(a): Dear Rafal, thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over Lagna 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to treat this Ke (in 12h). Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. Thanx a tonne SS sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than occult. In > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This yoga > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > loose morals. > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will afflict > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish Vedanga. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult. > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak), > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems to be > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply > > there) > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > SS > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > Oopachaya > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example > > in > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > > occult > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > > Dusthanas. > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord > > and > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > > Sura or > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & > > Venus > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > > advise > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > > Parasara) > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > > results. > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Soul Sadhak, 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather Purna-Yoga which cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if L,LL, AL are involved). One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or rather should go). Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. These kind of people doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 to Lagna). Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com Soul Sadhak napisał(a): Dear Rafal, Thanx so much again for ur response and further elaboration, however i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a logic for Ma/coral or any other logic - my question is that by exchnage if Ra is now in 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka sthana - and for Ra in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence was the question that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the stone or avoid it. I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using this pg as the ref: http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- i.html the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by what pg279 point 3) in VRA says. So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa to arrive at the mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this chart: http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- 1.pdf Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra is also in ninth, wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the latter factor? Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but wud not apply here since it is inimical to Me? Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra recommended or do we go only for the lord of 9h for mantra? Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt this chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over Lagna being 6th from lagnesh. Thanx again SS sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would be in seventh bhava we > will perscribe Coral and everything will be nice..No its not like that. > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. Yes, Ucchista Ganapati > worship is neccesary. > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in ninth) with Kamala > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow to marry without delay. > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be important to sustain marriage. > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from inheritance. > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, interest in medicine and > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and will be strong warrior > and he can have buisness with printing books or working with publishing. > He can also gain from occult and will be know as sensitive and dynamic > person. > > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern over Lagna > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question. > > > > Thanx a tonne > > SS > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than > > occult. In > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This > > yoga > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > loose morals. > > > > > > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > > > > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon... > > > > > > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with > > > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will > > afflict > > > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life. > > > > > > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish > > Vedanga. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h > > (marana > > > > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult. > > > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative > > > > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now) > > > > > > > > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak), > > > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w > > Ju > > > > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or > > > > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the > > lagna > > > > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and > > > > Mo/chandra-rasi) ? > > > > > > > > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw > > > > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify? > > > > > > > > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india. > > > > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems > > to be > > > > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply > > > > there) > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne, > > > > SS > > > > > > > > vedic astrology > > > > <vedic- astrology% 40. com>, Rafal Gendarz > > > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Asha, > > > > > > > > > > Lets start with basics: > > > > > ------------ --------- ----- > > > > > > > > > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana) > > > > > > > > > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > > > Oopachaya > > > > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer > > my > > > > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house > > from > > > > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for > > example > > > > in > > > > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives > > > > occult > > > > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > > > shows > > > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and > > faith > > > > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I > > was > > > > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana) > > > > > > > > > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of > > > > Dusthanas. > > > > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana > > lord > > > > and > > > > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in > > > > Sura or > > > > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha > > & > > > > Venus > > > > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult > > > > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature, > > > > advise > > > > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there - > > > > Parasara) > > > > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H). > > > > > > > > > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > > > > results. > > > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASHA napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rafal ji, > > > > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result > > > > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result? > > > > > > asha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Dear Rafalji, What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus with Taurus ascendant. Regards Manoj --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > Purna-Yoga which > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > L,LL, AL are involved). > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > rather should go). > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > These kind of people > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > to Lagna). > > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > elaboration, however > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > logic for Ma/coral > > or any other logic - my question is that by > exchnage if Ra is now in > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > sthana - and for Ra > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > was the question > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > stone or avoid it. > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > this pg as the ref: > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > i.html > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-i.html> > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > what pg279 point 3) in > > VRA says. > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > to arrive at the > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > chart: > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > 1.pdf > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-1.pdf> > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > is also in ninth, > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > latter factor? > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > wud not apply here > > since it is inimical to Me? > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > recommended or do we go > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > this > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > very bad and > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > over Lagna being 6th > > from lagnesh. > > > > Thanx again > > SS > > > > sohamsa@ .com > <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > be in seventh bhava > > we > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > nice..No its not like > > that. > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > Yes, Ucchista > > Ganapati > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > ninth) with Kamala > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > to marry without > > delay. > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > important to sustain > > marriage. > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > inheritance. > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > interest in medicine > > and > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > will be strong > > warrior > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > working with > > publishing. > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > sensitive and > > dynamic > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > cud you explain > > what u > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > are very bad and > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > my concern over > > Lagna > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > marriage, native shd not be > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > silly mistakes in > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > wearing that stone > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > done him better to > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > wud u still suggest > > stone > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > are also in exchange > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > the question. > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > SS > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > <sohamsa% > > 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > more dharma than > > > > occult. In > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > This > > > > yoga > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Rafal, How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. Thank you. Regards Supriti sohamsa , Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000 wrote: > > Dear Rafalji, > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > with Taurus ascendant. > Regards > Manoj > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > Purna-Yoga which > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > rather should go). > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > These kind of people > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > to Lagna). > > > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > elaboration, however > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > logic for Ma/coral > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > sthana - and for Ra > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > was the question > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > this pg as the ref: > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > i.html > > > > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- i.html> > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > VRA says. > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > to arrive at the > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > chart: > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > 1.pdf > > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-1.pdf> > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > is also in ninth, > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > latter factor? > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > wud not apply here > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > recommended or do we go > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > this > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > very bad and > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > over Lagna being 6th > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > Thanx again > > > SS > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa%40>, > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > be in seventh bhava > > > we > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > nice..No its not like > > > that. > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > Yes, Ucchista > > > Ganapati > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > to marry without > > > delay. > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > important to sustain > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > interest in medicine > > > and > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > will be strong > > > warrior > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > working with > > > publishing. > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > sensitive and > > > dynamic > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > cud you explain > > > what u > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > are very bad and > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > my concern over > > > Lagna > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > silly mistakes in > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > wearing that stone > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > done him better to > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > wud u still suggest > > > stone > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > are also in exchange > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > <sohamsa% > > > 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > more dharma than > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > This > > > > > yoga > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Supriti, We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of Yogas. Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet posited in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad bhava (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of particular activities in life. Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' the native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com supriti108 napisa?(a): > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > Dear Rafal, > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > Thank you. > > Regards > Supriti > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > with Taurus ascendant. > > Regards > > Manoj > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > rather should go). > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > These kind of people > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > elaboration, however > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > was the question > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-> > i.html> > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > to arrive at the > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > chart: > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > 1.pdf > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > is also in ninth, > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > wud not apply here > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > recommended or do we go > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > this > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > very bad and > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > SS > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > we > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > nice..No its not like > > > > that. > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > Ganapati > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > to marry without > > > > delay. > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > important to sustain > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > interest in medicine > > > > and > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > will be strong > > > > warrior > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > working with > > > > publishing. > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > sensitive and > > > > dynamic > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > cud you explain > > > > what u > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > my concern over > > > > Lagna > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > done him better to > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > wud u still suggest > > > > stone > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > <sohamsa% > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > more dharma than > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > This > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Dear Rafal ji Pranams. I am an eager reader of astrology. I love to go through all such knowledgeable posts whenever I can. I deeply appreciate your sincere efforts at teaching astrology. I wish I could take up a guru like you and take to the study of astrology - that is on my mind and maybe I would do it some time in future. You have said Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and should be seen during the dasas for predicting events. I have Parivartana of 8th and 12th House in Navamsa between Libra and Aquarius. There is Rahu and Saturn in Libra and Venus in Aquarius. What would that mean during Rahu dasa/Saturn dasa/Venus dasa? Venus in 12th is supposed to be bad for marriage. Would that effect be shown in Rahu dasa? In addition, Rahu is AK. And there is Sun & Ketu in Aries in 2nd house. What can we make of such a postioning? I look forward to your words which are my blessings. Om Namo Narayanayah! Thanking you Regards Smitha vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of Yogas. > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet posited > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad bhava > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > particular activities in life. > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' the > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Rafal, What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what does it indicate? Thanks, Regards Shreeya vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of Yogas. > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet posited > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad bhava > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > particular activities in life. > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' the > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards > > Supriti > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40>, > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > Regards > > > Manoj > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > rather should go). > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > These kind of people > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > was the question > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-> > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > chart: > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- Part- > > 1.pdf > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > this > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > very bad and > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > we > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > that. > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > to marry without > > > > > delay. > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > important to sustain > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > and > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > will be strong > > > > > warrior > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > working with > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > sensitive and > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > cud you explain > > > > > what u > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > my concern over > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > stone > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > This > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Shreeya, In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to get money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H. In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - this will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally native can like or have karma connected to short-terms relationships. I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, this was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. It was 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com venusgaal2003 napisa?(a): > > > Dear Rafal, > > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what > does it indicate? > > Thanks, > > Regards > Shreeya > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > Yogas. > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > posited > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > bhava > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > particular activities in life. > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > the > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should > be > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Regards > > > Supriti > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40>, > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > Regards > > > > Manoj > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > was the question > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > jyotish- > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->> > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > chart: > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > Part- > > > 1.pdf > > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-> > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > we > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > and > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > working with > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Rafal, Thanks for your reply.what if the grahas are jupiter and venus ? Jupiter being in navamsa lagna and venus in the 8th.Venus additionally being the LL in rasi as well and atamkarka too. Thanks, Regards Shreeya vedic astrology , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Shreeya, > > In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to get > money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H. > > In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - this > will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally > native can like or have karma connected to short-terms relationships. > > I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, this > was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. It was > 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > venusgaal2003 napisa?(a): > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what > > does it indicate? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Regards > > Shreeya > > > > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > Yogas. > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > posited > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > > bhava > > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > > the > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should > > be > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > 40>, > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Manoj > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > jyotish- > > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in- jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->> > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class- 2- > > Part- > > > > 1.pdf > > > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2- Part- > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-> > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > this > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Shreeya, Venus connected to eight can show betrayal. But that should be seen also in Rasi [upapada]. I have few examples with those kind of cases. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com venusgaal2003 napisa?(a): > > Dear Rafal, > > Thanks for your reply.what if the grahas are jupiter and venus ? > Jupiter being in navamsa lagna and venus in the 8th.Venus > additionally being the LL in rasi as well and atamkarka too. > > Thanks, > > Regards > Shreeya > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Shreeya, > > > > In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to > get > > money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H. > > > > In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - > this > > will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally > > native can like or have karma connected to short-terms > relationships. > > > > I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, > this > > was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. > It was > > 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > venusgaal2003 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what > > > does it indicate? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Regards > > > Shreeya > > > > > > vedic astrology > <vedic astrology%40> > > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > > <starsuponme@> wrote: > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > > > Yogas. > > > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > > > posited > > > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for > bad > > > bhava > > > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially > from > > > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time > of > > > > particular activities in life. > > > > > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and > this 'touch' > > > the > > > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this > should > > > be > > > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti > ji > > > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Supriti > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > > > 40>, > > > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Manoj > > > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > > > was the question > > > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > > > jyotish- > > > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in- > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-> > jyotish- > > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>> > > > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > > > chart: > > > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class- > 2- > > > Part- > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2- > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-> > Part- > > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->> > > > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > > > working with > > > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Rafal, Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. Visti ji has said and I quote: " Here the parivartana being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct. " My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th house). How do I know which one will show its effects. My birth details: September 18, 1970 Time: 17:48:30 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 88 E 22' 00 " , 22 N 34' 00 " Kolkata, India Thanks Supriti sohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of Yogas. > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet posited > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad bhava > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > particular activities in life. > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' the > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards > > Supriti > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40>, > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > Regards > > > Manoj > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > rather should go). > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > These kind of people > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > was the question > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-> > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > chart: > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- Part- > > 1.pdf > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > this > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > very bad and > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > we > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > that. > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > to marry without > > > > > delay. > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > important to sustain > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > and > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > will be strong > > > > > warrior > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > working with > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > sensitive and > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > cud you explain > > > > > what u > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > my concern over > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > stone > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > This > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Supriti, So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and conflicts. Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be highlighted during that time. See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com supriti108 napisał(a): |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Dear Rafal, Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me. I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and 7th lord. 7th house is my HL. Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship. Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct." My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th house). How do I know which one will show its effects. My birth details: September 18, 1970 Time: 17:48:30 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00" Kolkata, India Thanks Supriti sohamsa@ ..com, Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > Dear Supriti, > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of Yogas. > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet posited > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad bhava > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > particular activities in life. > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' the > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > email: rafal > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Dear Rafal, > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards > > Supriti > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > Regards > > > Manoj > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > rather should go). > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > These kind of people > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > was the question > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira ..blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-> > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > chart: > > > > > http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- Part- > > 1.pdf > > <http:// ..org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > this > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > very bad and > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > we > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > that. > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > to marry without > > > > > delay. > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > important to sustain > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > and > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > will be strong > > > > > warrior > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > working with > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > sensitive and > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > cud you explain > > > > > what u > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence > > > > my concern over > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > stone > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > This > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH|Dear Rafal, My comments below. Thank you for helping me understand this.RegardsSupritisohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote:>> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Supriti,> > So dasa of planet in sixth bhava is bad, it means seperation and > conflicts. [sM] How does this work with the parivartana. Ma is 2nd and 9th lord in conjunction with 7th lord Me which is in exchange with 6th lord Sun. Narayana Dasa shows what the world want to give You and drsti > on seventh bhava shows that relationship, buisness and travel will be > highlighted during that time. [sM] OK, so Visti ji's words regarding transformation of rajasic to satwic wrt marriage/alliance work with this. See which of Jupiter or Mo/Ve are in > Kendra/Kona to determine which Dasa will work better. [sM] None of the planets are in Kendra/Kona, so I am confused. Mo is in the 2nd house and Ju, Ve are in the 8th house. Ve and Mo are in Kendra in D9 though.> > > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz> Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > > > supriti108 napisa?(a):> >> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > Dear Rafal,> >> > Thank you for your response. I am still not clear on one concept. I> > would really appreciate it if you could clarify it for me.> >> > I am adding my details for this question. I have a few parivartanas> > in my chart. I am particularly refering to the exchange of 6th and> > 7th lord. 7th house is my HL.> >> > Visti ji has said and I quote: "Here the parivartana> > being between a good and an evil house must cause a good situation> > (marriage) to turn sour (enmity). Later this will reverse again where> > a bitter situation (enmity) becomes the cause of a great friendship.> > Your inference about your Näräyaëa daçä is very correct."> >> > My question, although I am coming up on Pi Narayana Dasa (aspecting> > 7th house), I am also going through Ma vimsottari dasa (placed in 6th> > house). How do I know which one will show its effects.> >> > My birth details:> > September 18, 1970> > Time: 17:48:30> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00"> > Kolkata, India> >> > Thanks> > Supriti> >> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%40>, > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Supriti,> > >> > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of> > Yogas.> > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet> > posited> > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad> > bhava> > > (dusthana/3H) .Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from> > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of> > > particular activities in life.> > >> > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch'> > the> > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order).> > >> > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should be> > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > email: rafal@> > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > >> > > supriti108 napisa?(a):> > > >> > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji> > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods.> > > >> > > > Thank you.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Supriti> > > >> > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%> > 40. com>,> > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Rafalji,> > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th> > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to> > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem> > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus> > > > > with Taurus ascendant.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Manoj> > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > >> > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather> > > > > > Purna-Yoga which> > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if> > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved).> > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native.> > > > > >> > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or> > > > > > rather should go).> > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture.> > > > > > These kind of people> > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6> > > > > > to Lagna).> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > >> > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further> > > > > > elaboration, however> > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a> > > > > > logic for Ma/coral> > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by> > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in> > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka> > > > > > sthana - and for Ra> > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence> > > > > > was the question> > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the> > > > > > stone or avoid it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using> > > > > > this pg as the ref:> > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/> > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish-> > > > > > > i.html> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in-> > jyotish-> > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- > > in-jyotish- > > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->>> > > > i.html>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by> > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in> > > > > > > VRA says.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa> > > > > > to arrive at the> > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this> > > > > > chart:> > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/> > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part-> > > > > > > 1.pdf> > > > > >> > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-> > Part-> > > > 1.pdf> > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part->> > 1.pdf>>> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra> > > > > > is also in ninth,> > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the> > > > > > latter factor?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but> > > > > > wud not apply here> > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me?> > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra> > > > > > recommended or do we go> > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on:> > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt> > > > > > this> > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are> > > > > > very bad and> > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU" - hence my concern> > > > > > over Lagna being 6th> > > > > > > from lagnesh.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanx again> > > > > > > SS> > > > > > >> > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>,> > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would> > > > > > be in seventh bhava> > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be> > > > > > nice..No its not like> > > > > > > that.> > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription.> > > > > > Yes, Ucchista> > > > > > > Ganapati> > > > > > > > worship is neccesary.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in> > > > > > ninth) with Kamala> > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow> > > > > > to marry without> > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be> > > > > > important to sustain> > > > > > > marriage.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from> > > > > > inheritance.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti,> > > > > > interest in medicine> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and> > > > > > will be strong> > > > > > > warrior> > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or> > > > > > working with> > > > > > > publishing.> > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as> > > > > > sensitive and> > > > > > > dynamic> > > > > > > > person.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > > > > > > email: rafal@> > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a):> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls> > > > > > cud you explain> > > > > > > what u> > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th> > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the> > > > > > > > > chart. "while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH> > > > > > are very bad and> > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU" - hence> > > > > > my concern over> > > > > > > Lagna> > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to> > > > > > marriage, native shd not be> > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another> > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the> > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings,> > > > > > silly mistakes in> > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after> > > > > > wearing that stone> > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have> > > > > > done him better to> > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h).> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or> > > > > > wud u still suggest> > > > > > > stone> > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve> > > > > > are also in exchange> > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence> > > > > > the question.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne> > > > > > > > > SS> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com> > > > > > <sohamsa%> > > > > > > 40. com>,> > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow> > > > > > more dharma than> > > > > > > > > occult. In> > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth.> > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is> > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS.> > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > yoga> > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> > > > > > > > > > loose morals.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Namaste Sri Soul I hope I am not interrupting anything here. Rahu's dasha will bring Sarala Yoga and vipreet raja yoga into action. However 9th house may suffer but health should not except for minor ailments. Ketu being in Sun's nakshatra may harm the 9th house significations even more. I won't advise this person to wear a cat's eye. If anything needs to be done, then, it is worship of Surya Devta. Also, wear a Surya numerical yantra. In Gemstones, an Emerald is likely to suit this person. The native can wear it in gold as a ring or better still as a pendant on the heart chakra. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 7/25/07, Soul Sadhak <soulsadhak wrote: Dear Rafal, thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls cud you explain what u said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt the chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern over Lagna 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained.Also, if Ke is causing such touble to marriage, native shd not be wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another mssg (sohamsa) - the native was facing problem like day-dreamings, silly mistakes in studies etc. which he says were reduced after wearing that stone (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have done him better to treat this Ke (in 12h). Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or wud u still suggest stone for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve are also in exchange here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence the question.Thanx a tonne SSsohamsa , Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: >> *hraum namah adityaya*> > Dear Soul Sadhak,> > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow more dharma than occult. In > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is Sharada yoga per BPHS. This yoga > is in Upapada also so spouse can have> loose morals.> > 2. Ke in twelfth gives arguments in marriage until childbirth. > > 3. Cats eye? Sixth lord? Shad ripus? Comeon...> > 4. Ra here is in Ayur-uccha placement, and its in parivartana with > Mangal so Fortune gets spoiled and big enmity rises which will afflict > comforts and afflict native's rise & marriage life.> > 5. Sikhi in Navamsa Lagna gives very good ability in Jyotish Vedanga.> > Regards,> Rafal Gendarz > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> email: rafal Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com> > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > in the chart undermentioned, Lagnesh (Me) is in 8h, Mo in 8h (marana> > karaka sthana) - Me and Mo in 8h wud signify delving into occult. > > Ke in 12h again native may want to look for moksha / meditative> > tendency? (skipping nav/d-20 for now)> >> > Ke 5th from Lagnesh (likings as u said), but Ke is in Ta (weak), > > aspecting Ju from 5h and Ju aspects 9h (but there's exchange b/w Ju> > and Ve too) - now if the native wears cats eye, will it be good or> > bad - good from spiritual point of veiw - but wont it harm the lagna> > or wud it be beneficieal to lagnesh, being 5th from lagnesh (and> > Mo/chandra-rasi) ?> >> > Lagna itself comes 6th to lagnesh, so the native may veiw> > self/body/own intelligence/ perception as a punishment? > > what wud Ra (in Sc) 11th from lagnesh signify?> >> > birth details: 9th/mar/94, 12:53pm, amritsar, india.> > (have posted this at sohamsa too, but here the discussion seems to be> > in the direction that i am looking for - so u may skip ur reply> > there)> >> > Thanx a tonne,> > SS> >> > vedic astrology > > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > > <starsuponme@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > *hraum namah adityaya*> > >> > > Dear Asha,> > > > > > Lets start with basics:> > > ------------ --------- -----> > >> > > SIXTH AND ELEVENTH (Upachaya Sthana)> > >> > > Sixth and eleventh are houses of Danda and Hara. This are > > Oopachaya> > > house lorded by Buddha and Sani in natural zodial (please refer my> > > article about free will). Especially we see that fifth house from> > > Lagnesh is very beneficial and shows likings of native (for example> > in> > > my chart its Chandra in eight bhava as Karana Lord which gives> > occult> > > vidya), while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are very bad and> > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU. This gives also problem to mantra and faith> > > (maraka from mantra-bhava) . So while mentioning this bhavas I was> > > referring to placement from Lagnesh. > > >> > > EIGHT AND TWELFTH (Dus-sthana)> > >> > > Now if we talk about eight and twelfth we move on platform of> > Dusthanas.> > > Now this depends on placement and sambandha between dusthana lord> > and> > > Lagnesh, and also about category of grahas depending on being in> > Sura or> > > Asura group, therefore You will see that Sastra eugolize Buddha & > > Venus> > > position in Randhrabhava. If lagnesh is in eight it gives occult> > > knowledge (Parasara), hazardous attitude and secretive nature,> > advise> > > for these people are to go abroad. Lagnesh in twelfth can give > > > sacrificing/ donating nature (esp when Shukra is also there -> > Parasara)> > > but also quarrelsome tendency (asp on 6H).> > >> > > Of course other factors can have HIGHER PRIORITY in reading the > > results.> > >> > > Hope it helps.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Rafal Gendarz> > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru> > > email: rafal@ > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com> > >> > >> > > ASHA napisa?(a):> > > >> > > >> > > > Rafal ji,> > > > Lagnesh in 6th and 11th is bad-what about 8th and 12th? > > > > if lagnesh is placed in 8th whats the result> > > > and if lagnesh is in 12th whats the result?> > > > asha> > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Dear Rafal, In a similar vien what would excange of 7th lord saturn with 10th lord Mars in Dasama mean. And in the same situation if the 9th lord is exalted in the 7th house and the 7th lord debilitaed in 10th house. in Dasama. Thanks and regards, Mike vedic astrology [vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz 26 July 2007 10:27 vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Re: lagnesh in 8th or 12th rafal ji *hraum namah adityaya* Dear Shreeya, In Dasamsa it means that native like short-projects and like to get money quickly (quickly retire). Similar to 10L in 5H. In Navamsa it would show reasons for break of 1st relationship - this will be the quality of native represented by that Graha. Generally native can like or have karma connected to short-terms relationships. I have chart where girl broke due to character traits of native, this was especially connnected to His quality of being harsh and cold. It was 2nd relationship and 3L Sani was in Lagna. Regards, Rafal Gendarz Sri Jagannath Center Guru email: rafal (AT) rohinaa (DOT) <rafal%40rohinaa.com> com Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com venusgaal2003 napisa?(a): > > > Dear Rafal, > > What if there is exchange between navamasa LL and 8th lord ?what > does it indicate? > > Thanks, > > Regards > Shreeya > > vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> > <vedic astrology%40>, Rafal Gendarz > <starsuponme wrote: > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > Dear Supriti, > > > > We can use all dasas while timing activation of those kind of > Yogas. > > Dainya and Khala Parivartana show good when the dasa of planet > posited > > in good bhava [not good lord] is acting. This is opposite for bad > bhava > > (dusthana/3H).Sookshma Parivartana should be seen especially from > > Antardasa perspective while Karaka-Parivartana refers to time of > > particular activities in life. > > > > Transformation of Tattwa and Guna is independent and this 'touch' > the > > native if self is engaged (means L,LL or AL int that order). > > > > Parivartana in Navamsa shows reversal of fortune and this should > be > > especially seen when looking at Dasas for predicting events. > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > email: rafal > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa.com > > > > > > supriti108 napisa?(a): > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > How do we time the transformation due to parivartana. Visti ji > > > mentioned using Narayana Dasa. Are there any other methods. > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Regards > > > Supriti > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa% > 40>, > > > Manoj Sharma <manojsharma662000@ ...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rafalji, > > > > What is the remedy for lagna lord in 12th and the 12th > > > > lord in lagna. This yoga gives abject poverty. How to > > > > offset this lagna by remedial measures. The problem > > > > becomes compounded because the lagna lord is Venus > > > > with Taurus ascendant. > > > > Regards > > > > Manoj > > > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > 1. Parivartana doesnt change placement, its rather > > > > > Purna-Yoga which > > > > > cause reversal of fortune and transformation (if > > > > > L,LL, AL are involved). > > > > > One good Devi Mantra will be enough for the native. > > > > > > > > > > 2. If Lagnesh is in eight then one goes abroad (or > > > > > rather should go). > > > > > Sixth from it will be Lagna - birthplace/culture. > > > > > These kind of people > > > > > doesnt like roots, but are very good at fighting (6 > > > > > to Lagna). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx so much again for ur response and further > > > > > elaboration, however > > > > > > i wud like to clarify that i never meant to put a > > > > > logic for Ma/coral > > > > > > or any other logic - my question is that by > > > > > exchnage if Ra is now in > > > > > > 9h, it will be considered to be in marana-karaka > > > > > sthana - and for Ra > > > > > > in mks, then stone for Ju is to be given - hence > > > > > was the question > > > > > > that Ju is badhaka in this case - shd we give the > > > > > stone or avoid it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wud anticipate a no in answer, since i was using > > > > > this pg as the ref: > > > > > > http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ > > > > > 10/gemstones- in-jyotish- > > > > > > i.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://varahamihira .blogspot. com/2004/ 10/gemstones- in- > jyotish- > > > <http://varahamihira <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-> ..blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish- > <http://varahamihira <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish-> ..blogspot.com/2004/10/gemstones-in-jyotish->> > > > i.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > the same (Ju inimical to lagnesh) also goes by > > > > > what pg279 point 3) in > > > > > > VRA says. > > > > > > > > > > > > So probably Guru Mantra wud be better? > > > > > > > > > > > > and we wud also look at nakshatra dispositing Sa > > > > > to arrive at the > > > > > > mantra: the ref. wrt 9h (Aq with Sa) for this > > > > > chart: > > > > > > http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ > > > > > SJC-Atri- Class-2-Part- > > > > > > 1.pdf > > > > > > > > > <http:// .org/sjc_ delhi/pdfs/ SJC-Atri- Class-2- > Part- > > > 1.pdf > > > <http:// <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-> ..org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part- > <http:// <http://.org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-> ..org/sjc_delhi/pdfs/SJC-Atri-Class-2-Part-> > 1.pdf>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now Sa is in Ra's nakshatra, and by exchange if Ra > > > > > is also in ninth, > > > > > > wud Durga Mantra be added, maybe regardless of the > > > > > latter factor? > > > > > > > > > > > > Now for Sa in 9h, stone for Su can be given - but > > > > > wud not apply here > > > > > > since it is inimical to Me? > > > > > > Considering Ma in 9h - any further mantra > > > > > recommended or do we go > > > > > > only for the lord of 9h for mantra? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, Still awaiting any elaboration on: > > > > > > ur mssg below re. 6th and 11th from Lagnesh wrt > > > > > this > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH are > > > > > very bad and > > > > > > shows what one sees as RIPU " - hence my concern > > > > > over Lagna being 6th > > > > > > from lagnesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx again > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > <sohamsa% 40. com>, > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.Ok, so Your logic is like that: if Mars would > > > > > be in seventh bhava > > > > > > we > > > > > > > will perscribe Coral and everything will be > > > > > nice..No its not like > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > Please read VRA section about Gem perscription. > > > > > Yes, Ucchista > > > > > > Ganapati > > > > > > > worship is neccesary. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I would rather advise Devi worship (Sani in > > > > > ninth) with Kamala > > > > > > > Mahavidya (Venus debiliatated) . This will allow > > > > > to marry without > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > Then after that Narayana Mantra will be > > > > > important to sustain > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He has 3 yogas which shows gain from > > > > > inheritance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > He will be quite spiritual person with bhakti, > > > > > interest in medicine > > > > > > and > > > > > > > good knowledge, but can go easily into fight and > > > > > will be strong > > > > > > warrior > > > > > > > and he can have buisness with printing books or > > > > > working with > > > > > > publishing. > > > > > > > He can also gain from occult and will be know as > > > > > sensitive and > > > > > > dynamic > > > > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Center Guru > > > > > > > email: rafal@ > > > > > > > Jyotish pages: www.rohinaa. com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Soul Sadhak napisa?(a): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanx a tonne for ur explaination, however pls > > > > > cud you explain > > > > > > what u > > > > > > > > said in mssg below to Asha re. 6th and 11th > > > > > from Lagnesh wrt the > > > > > > > > chart. " while sixth and eleventh FROM LAGNESH > > > > > are very bad and > > > > > > > > > > shows > > > what one sees as RIPU " - hence > > > > > my concern over > > > > > > Lagna > > > > > > > > 6th from lagnesh - Ra u have explained. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, if Ke is causing such touble to > > > > > marriage, native shd not be > > > > > > > > wearing cats eye - as i expressed in another > > > > > mssg (sohamsa) - the > > > > > > > > native was facing problem like day-dreamings, > > > > > silly mistakes in > > > > > > > > studies etc. which he says were reduced after > > > > > wearing that stone > > > > > > > > (hence my amazement). Ganesha worship wud have > > > > > done him better to > > > > > > > > treat this Ke (in 12h). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like no stone is suitable for him, or > > > > > wud u still suggest > > > > > > stone > > > > > > > > for Ju (considering Ra-Ma exchange?) - Ju-Ve > > > > > are also in exchange > > > > > > > > here, but Ju is badhaka for Ge lagna - hence > > > > > the question. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanx a tonne > > > > > > > > SS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sohamsa@ .com > > > > > <sohamsa% > > > > > > 40. com>, > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *hraum namah adityaya* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Soul Sadhak, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Yes, but tendency will be also to follow > > > > > more dharma than > > > > > > > > occult. In > > > > > > > > > bhava chalit chakra Lagnesh is in ninth. > > > > > > > > > Mo with Me (kona placement to Me/Ju) is > > > > > Sharada yoga per BPHS. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > yoga > > > > > > > > > is in Upapada also so spouse can have > > > > > > > > > loose morals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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