4 step theory

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Dear Gondhalekar

 

Planet Ke: Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7 Sublord of Ke is Ju: Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju{10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7) Here, Ketu signifies Mercury, Mercury conjoins Venus and venus is aspected by Jupiter are considered..

It is said that the 4 step theory was developed incorporating all the k.p.rules. But Mr.KSK did not tell anywhere to take the conjoined planets of signlord and aspecting planet of that conjoined planet. If we go like this there is no end for this.

 

Can you give reference where you have taken this rule?

 

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: 4 step theory Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:15 AM

 

 

Pl read FIRST the Four Step book yourself to understand fully and if the authority of the 4 step says it is wrong, then it will be explained referring his book.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Tin Win> > This is reference to the chart posted in the file section for study.> > "For the practical discussion, the KP chart of Sushma's daughter, which seems interesting for KP learning, is TEMPORARILY posted in the file section of this group under "Sushma's Daughter", and the 4 step primary significators of the KPAstro 3.0 print out are giev below:> > KP marriage> - Page 1 -> Astrologer: Tin Win, , , - . EMail: tw853 > Man Machine Systems, Ph:(044)-22580377. URL: www.system. com

> Printed on: August 08 2008> > > 4 Step Significators> > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Ve, Sa> Planets in own stars (*): Mo> > Sa conj 6> Me conj Ve> Ra conj Ma> > Me is aspected by Ju> Ju is aspected by Me, Ve> Ve is aspected by Ju> Ke is aspected by Ma> Sa aspects 12> > Planet Ke:> Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7> Sublord of Ke is Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju{10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)> > > My doubt:> While taking Ketu signification in the star level,> 1) Ketu is posited in 12 o.k.> 2) Ketu¢s star Mars o.k. > 3) Ketu is in the sign of Mecury representing houses 4, 9 o.k.> 4) Mercury conjoins with Venus> 5) Venus is aspected by

Jupiter.> > Here, Mercury conjoins Venus, venus is aspected by Jupiter are considered. Is it necessary to consider this chain.. Whether the 4 step theory says like that.> > Not only for Ketu, the same type of combination is considered for all the planets in the star level. I am new to this theory. I did not come across this type of combination. > > Dhanabalan> >

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Dear Gondhalekar

 

In 4 step theory, it is mentioned that the Rahu/Ketu has the 7th aspect.

 

It is also mentioned that a well known practioner does not use the 7th aspect of planets.

 

Rahu/Ketu being the shadowy planets, they have no aspect is the basic rule in k.p.

 

It seems this rule is contradictory to the k.p. rules.

 

Dhanabalan

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dear dhanabalan,

in 4 step theory,rahu/ketu aspects only if they are on cusp and if strong.they dont

aspect each other.

in my practice i use aspect/conj.and it gives me the success.the theory

is open to everybody and which rules to be applied/omitted are depends

on each and every astrologer.i cant say to stop them.

in general 4 step theory is having contradictory rules to original kp method.

but each and every rule is taken from KSK principles.

whether it is agrred by each and everyone is not at all necessary.

thanks -sunil gondhalekar

On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar

 

In 4 step theory, it is mentioned that the Rahu/Ketu has the 7th aspect.

 

It is also mentioned that a well known practioner does not use the 7th aspect of planets.

 

Rahu/Ketu being the shadowy planets, they have no aspect is the basic rule in k.p.

 

It seems this rule is contradictory to the k.p. rules.

 

Dhanabalan

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Dear Gondhalekar

 

I understand that Rahu/Ketu do not aspect each other(No planetary aspect).

According to 4 step theory, any planet within 3.20’ degree orb to the cusp, that planet becomes the primary significator of that cusp.

 

If Rahu/Ketu is within 3.20’ degree orb to the cusp, it becomes the primary significator of that cusp like any other planet and the Rahu/Ketu will aspect the 7th cusp also.

 

If Rahu/Ketu is a primary significator, it will represent the conjoined and aspected planets also.

 

The following is taken from Mr.Tin Win’s study notes on 4 step theory,

 

“Whether to take into consideration of all primary significators or to exclude some of them, especially significators by 7th aspect is up to the own judgement and preference of an astrologer. If 7th aspect is not taken in to consideration, Rahu/Ketu’s opposite 7th aspect on a cusp will be automatically ruled out. Depending on which option is chosen, the result can be entirely different.”

 

My doubt:

It is said that the result can be entirely different if 7th aspect is not taken.

If it is so, the author should not leave the chance to the astrologer to choose the 7th aspect of the significators. The author must be specific.

 

Whether the author recommends the 7th planetary aspect of significators or not?

Whether the author recommends the 7th cusp aspect of significators or not?

 

Thank you

Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/12/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: 4 step theory Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:17 AM

 

 

 

dear dhanabalan,

in 4 step theory,rahu/ ketu aspects only if they are on cusp and if strong.they dont

aspect each other.

in my practice i use aspect/conj. and it gives me the success.the theory

is open to everybody and which rules to be applied/omitted are depends

on each and every astrologer.i cant say to stop them.

in general 4 step theory is having contradictory rules to original kp method.

but each and every rule is taken from KSK principles.

whether it is agrred by each and everyone is not at all necessary.

thanks -sunil gondhalekar

On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar

 

In 4 step theory, it is mentioned that the Rahu/Ketu has the 7th aspect.

 

It is also mentioned that a well known practioner does not use the 7th aspect of planets.

 

Rahu/Ketu being the shadowy planets, they have no aspect is the basic rule in k.p.

 

It seems this rule is contradictory to the k.p. rules.

 

Dhanabalan

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dear dhanabalan,

specific rules are given in my book.better study that instead of studying

guide provided by someone else.

my views are clear and if somebody uses its own rules then how i can answer

to your queries-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/12/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar I understand that Rahu/Ketu do not aspect each other(No planetary aspect).

According to 4 step theory, any planet within 3.20' degree orb to the cusp, that planet becomes the primary significator of that cusp.

If Rahu/Ketu is within 3.20' degree orb to the cusp, it becomes the primary significator of that cusp like any other planet and the Rahu/Ketu will aspect the 7th cusp also. If Rahu/Ketu is a primary significator, it will represent the conjoined and aspected planets also. The following is taken from Mr.Tin Win's study notes on 4 step theory, "Whether to take into consideration of all primary significators or to exclude some of them, especially significators by 7th aspect is up to the own judgement and preference of an astrologer. If 7th aspect is not taken in to consideration, Rahu/Ketu's opposite 7th aspect on a cusp will be automatically ruled out. Depending on which option is chosen, the result can be entirely different."

My doubt:

It is said that the result can be entirely different if 7th aspect is not taken.

If it is so, the author should not leave the chance to the astrologer to choose the 7th aspect of the significators. The author must be specific.

Whether the author recommends the 7th planetary aspect of significators or not? Whether the author recommends the 7th cusp aspect of significators or not? Thank you Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/12/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka

Re: 4 step theory Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:17 AM

 

 

 

 

dear dhanabalan,

in 4 step theory,rahu/ ketu aspects only if they are on cusp and if strong.they dont

aspect each other.

in my practice i use aspect/conj. and it gives me the success.the theory

is open to everybody and which rules to be applied/omitted are depends

on each and every astrologer.i cant say to stop them.

in general 4 step theory is having contradictory rules to original kp method.

but each and every rule is taken from KSK principles.

whether it is agrred by each and everyone is not at all necessary.

thanks -sunil gondhalekar

On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar

 

In 4 step theory, it is mentioned that the Rahu/Ketu has the 7th aspect.

 

It is also mentioned that a well known practioner does not use the 7th aspect of planets.

 

Rahu/Ketu being the shadowy planets, they have no aspect is the basic rule in k.p.

 

It seems this rule is contradictory to the k.p. rules.

 

Dhanabalan

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Dear Gondhalekar

 

Thank you

 

The problem is the books are not available at chennai or salem. Can you tell the place where I can get your books

 

Dhanabalan--- On Wed, 8/13/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalakaRe: 4 step theory Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 5:30 AM

 

 

 

dear dhanabalan,

specific rules are given in my book.better study that instead of studying

guide provided by someone else.

my views are clear and if somebody uses its own rules then how i can answer

to your queries-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/12/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar I understand that Rahu/Ketu do not aspect each other(No planetary aspect).

According to 4 step theory, any planet within 3.20' degree orb to the cusp, that planet becomes the primary significator of that cusp.

If Rahu/Ketu is within 3.20' degree orb to the cusp, it becomes the primary significator of that cusp like any other planet and the Rahu/Ketu will aspect the 7th cusp also. If Rahu/Ketu is a primary significator, it will represent the conjoined and aspected planets also. The following is taken from Mr.Tin Win's study notes on 4 step theory, "Whether to take into consideration of all primary significators or to exclude some of them, especially significators by 7th aspect is up to the own judgement and preference of an astrologer. If 7th aspect is not taken in to consideration, Rahu/Ketu's opposite 7th aspect on a cusp will be automatically ruled out. Depending on which option is chosen, the result can be entirely different."

My doubt:

It is said that the result can be entirely different if 7th aspect is not taken.

If it is so, the author should not leave the chance to the astrologer to choose the 7th aspect of the significators. The author must be specific.

Whether the author recommends the 7th planetary aspect of significators or not? Whether the author recommends the 7th cusp aspect of significators or not? Thank you Dhanabalan--- On Tue, 8/12/08, sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

sunil gondhalekar <sunilalaka (AT) gmail (DOT) com>Re: 4 step theory@gro ups.comTuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:17 AM

 

 

 

dear dhanabalan,

in 4 step theory,rahu/ ketu aspects only if they are on cusp and if strong.they dont

aspect each other.

in my practice i use aspect/conj. and it gives me the success.the theory

is open to everybody and which rules to be applied/omitted are depends

on each and every astrologer.i cant say to stop them.

in general 4 step theory is having contradictory rules to original kp method.

but each and every rule is taken from KSK principles.

whether it is agrred by each and everyone is not at all necessary.

thanks -sunil gondhalekar

On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar

 

In 4 step theory, it is mentioned that the Rahu/Ketu has the 7th aspect.

 

It is also mentioned that a well known practioner does not use the 7th aspect of planets.

 

Rahu/Ketu being the shadowy planets, they have no aspect is the basic rule in k.p.

 

It seems this rule is contradictory to the k.p. rules.

 

Dhanabalan

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Dear dhanabalan,

as per me ketu's signification will be

PLANET : KETUItself :-------------- Ketu:- 12 Rashi-Swami Mercury 4 9 12It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (6) (2) (7) It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 10 3 6 It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Ketu:- (12) Rashi-Swami Mercury (4) (9) 12,star lord mars(6)(2)(7)

Itself aspects :------ 6i have never said signlord of nodes again to be judged.

thats why i always mention that read the text book and not guide.

-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gondhalekar

 

Planet Ke: Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7 Sublord of Ke is Ju: Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju{10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)

Here, Ketu signifies Mercury, Mercury conjoins Venus and venus is aspected by Jupiter are considered..

It is said that the 4 step theory was developed incorporating all the k.p.rules. But Mr.KSK did not tell anywhere to take the conjoined planets of signlord and aspecting planet of that conjoined planet. If we go like this there is no end for this.

 

Can you give reference where you have taken this rule?

 

Dhanabalan--- On Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: 4 step theory

Date: Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:15 AM

 

 

Pl read FIRST the Four Step book yourself to understand fully and if the authority of the 4 step says it is wrong, then it will be explained referring his book.@gro ups.com, Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>

wrote:>> Dear Tin Win> > This is reference to the chart posted in the file section for study.> > " For the practical discussion, the KP chart of Sushma's daughter,

which seems interesting for KP learning, is TEMPORARILY posted in the file section of this group under " Sushma's Daughter " , and the 4 step primary significators of the KPAstro 3.0 print out are giev

below:> > KP marriage> - Page 1 -> Astrologer: Tin Win, , , - . EMail: tw853 > Man Machine Systems, Ph:(044)-22580377. URL: www.system. com > Printed on: August 08 2008

> > > 4 Step Significators> > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9> Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Ve, Sa> Planets in own stars (*): Mo> > Sa conj 6

> Me conj Ve> Ra conj Ma> > Me is aspected by Ju> Ju is aspected by Me, Ve> Ve is aspected by Ju> Ke is aspected by Ma> Sa aspects 12> > Planet Ke:> Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7

> Sublord of Ke is Ju:> Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju{10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)> > > My doubt:> While taking Ketu signification in the star level,

> 1) Ketu is posited in 12 o.k.> 2) Ketu¢s star Mars o.k. > 3) Ketu is in the sign of Mecury representing houses 4, 9 o.k.> 4) Mercury conjoins with Venus> 5) Venus is aspected by Jupiter.

> > Here, Mercury conjoins Venus, venus is aspected by Jupiter are considered. Is it necessary to consider this chain.. Whether the 4 step theory says like that.> > Not only for Ketu, the same type of combination is considered for

all the planets in the star level. I am new to this theory. I did not come across this type of combination. > > Dhanabalan> >

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Dear Sunil Gondhalekar ji,

1. It is automatically taking of Ketu's signlord Mercury's conjunction with Venus and consequently Venus aspected by Jupiter as per your rules of the "conjunction of planets" (say guide point 13 in the file section, "A Study Note on 4 Step") and the "aspects between planets" (guide point 19) respectively becacuse it is not mentioned in the 4 step book that those two rules are not applicable in the case of Rahu/Ketu's signlord.

2. If you mean to make this restriction, please make it clear and for the benefit of the 4 step lovers, it will be a pleasure to accordingly revise the 4 step primary significators in the KPAstro 3.0.

3. Please kindly confirm to make this restriction to be no more doubt.

Thanks and regards,

tw , "sunil gondhalekar" <sunilalaka wrote:>> Dear dhanabalan,> as per me ketu's signification will be> PLANET : KETU> Itself :-------------- Ketu:- 12 Rashi-Swami Mercury 4 9 12> It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (6) (2) (7)> It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 10 3 6> It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Ketu:- (12) Rashi-Swami Mercury (4) (9)> 12,star lord mars(6)(2)(7)> Itself aspects :------ 6> i have never said signlord of nodes again to be judged.> thats why i always mention that read the text book and not guide.> -sunil gondhalekar> > On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan wrote:> >> > Dear Gondhalekar> >> > Planet Ke:> > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7> > Sublord of Ke is Ju:> > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju{10,> > 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)> >> > Here, Ketu signifies Mercury, Mercury conjoins Venus and venus is> > aspected by Jupiter are considered..> > It is said that the 4 step theory was developed incorporating all the> > k.p.rules. But Mr.KSK did not tell anywhere to take the conjoined planets of> > signlord and aspecting planet of that conjoined planet. If we go like this> > there is no end for this.> >> > Can you give reference where you have taken this rule?> >> > Dhanabalan> >> >> > --- On *Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 tw853* wrote:> >> > tw853 tw853 > Re: 4 step theory> > > > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:15 AM> >> > Pl read FIRST the Four Step book yourself to understand fully and if> > the authority of the 4 step says it is wrong, then it will be> > explained referring his book.> >> > @gro ups.com <%40>,> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win> > >> > > This is reference to the chart posted in the file section for> > study.> > >> > > "For the practical discussion, the KP chart of Sushma's daughter,> > which seems interesting for KP learning, is TEMPORARILY posted in> > the file section of this group under "Sushma's Daughter", and the 4> > step primary significators of the KPAstro 3.0 print out are giev> > below:> > >> > > KP marriage> > > - Page 1 -> > > Astrologer: Tin Win, , , - . EMail: tw853 > > > Man Machine Systems, Ph:(044)-22580377. URL: www.system.> > com> > > Printed on: August 08 2008> > >> > >> > > 4 Step Significators> > >> > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9> > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Ve, Sa> > > Planets in own stars (*): Mo> > >> > > Sa conj 6> > > Me conj Ve> > > Ra conj Ma> > >> > > Me is aspected by Ju> > > Ju is aspected by Me, Ve> > > Ve is aspected by Ju> > > Ke is aspected by Ma> > > Sa aspects 12> > >> > > Planet Ke:> > > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7> > > Sublord of Ke is Ju:> > > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju> > {10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)> > >> > >> > > My doubt:> > > While taking Ketu signification in the star level,> > > 1) Ketu is posited in 12 o.k.> > > 2) Ketu¢s star Mars o.k.> > > 3) Ketu is in the sign of Mecury representing houses 4, 9 o.k.> > > 4) Mercury conjoins with Venus> > > 5) Venus is aspected by Jupiter.> > >> > > Here, Mercury conjoins Venus, venus is aspected by Jupiter are> > considered. Is it necessary to consider this chain.. Whether the 4> > step theory says like that.> > >> > > Not only for Ketu, the same type of combination is considered for> > all the planets in the star level. I am new to this theory. I did> > not come across this type of combination.> > >> > > Dhanabalan> > >> > >> >> >> > > >>

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Dear Sunil Gondhalekar,

 

It is not necessary to show the secondary significators, which are not

shown in the 4 step book and not used in the 4 step?.

 

As per your book, the KPAstro shows only the 4 step primary

significators.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

, " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka

wrote:

>

> Dear dhanabalan,

> as per me ketu's signification will be

> PLANET : KETU

> Itself :-------------- Ketu:- 12 Rashi-Swami Mercury 4 9 12

> It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (6) (2) (7)

> It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 10 3 6

> It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Ketu:- (12) Rashi-Swami Mercury (4) (9)

> 12,star lord mars(6)(2)(7)

> Itself aspects :------ 6

> i have never said signlord of nodes again to be judged.

> thats why i always mention that read the text book and not guide.

> -sunil gondhalekar

>

> On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gondhalekar

> >

> > Planet Ke:

> > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7

> > Sublord of Ke is Ju:

> > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju{10,

> > 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)

> >

> > Here, Ketu signifies Mercury, Mercury conjoins Venus and venus is

> > aspected by Jupiter are considered..

> > It is said that the 4 step theory was developed incorporating all

the

> > k.p.rules. But Mr.KSK did not tell anywhere to take the conjoined

planets of

> > signlord and aspecting planet of that conjoined planet. If we go

like this

> > there is no end for this.

> >

> > Can you give reference where you have taken this rule?

> >

> > Dhanabalan

> >

> >

> > --- On *Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 tw853* wrote:

> >

> > tw853 tw853

> > Re: 4 step theory

> >

> > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:15 AM

> >

> > Pl read FIRST the Four Step book yourself to understand fully and if

> > the authority of the 4 step says it is wrong, then it will be

> > explained referring his book.

> >

> > @gro ups.com <%40>,

> > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tin Win

> > >

> > > This is reference to the chart posted in the file section for

> > study.

> > >

> > > " For the practical discussion, the KP chart of Sushma's daughter,

> > which seems interesting for KP learning, is TEMPORARILY posted in

> > the file section of this group under " Sushma's Daughter " , and the 4

> > step primary significators of the KPAstro 3.0 print out are giev

> > below:

> > >

> > > KP marriage

> > > - Page 1 -

> > > Astrologer: Tin Win, , , - . EMail: tw853

> > > Man Machine Systems, Ph:(044)-22580377. URL: www.system.

> > com

> > > Printed on: August 08 2008

> > >

> > >

> > > 4 Step Significators

> > >

> > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9

> > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Ve, Sa

> > > Planets in own stars (*): Mo

> > >

> > > Sa conj 6

> > > Me conj Ve

> > > Ra conj Ma

> > >

> > > Me is aspected by Ju

> > > Ju is aspected by Me, Ve

> > > Ve is aspected by Ju

> > > Ke is aspected by Ma

> > > Sa aspects 12

> > >

> > > Planet Ke:

> > > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7

> > > Sublord of Ke is Ju:

> > > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju

> > {10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)

> > >

> > >

> > > My doubt:

> > > While taking Ketu signification in the star level,

> > > 1) Ketu is posited in 12 o.k.

> > > 2) Ketu¢s star Mars o.k.

> > > 3) Ketu is in the sign of Mecury representing houses 4, 9 o.k.

> > > 4) Mercury conjoins with Venus

> > > 5) Venus is aspected by Jupiter.

> > >

> > > Here, Mercury conjoins Venus, venus is aspected by Jupiter are

> > considered. Is it necessary to consider this chain.. Whether the 4

> > step theory says like that.

> > >

> > > Not only for Ketu, the same type of combination is considered for

> > all the planets in the star level. I am new to this theory. I did

> > not come across this type of combination.

> > >

> > > Dhanabalan

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

dera shri tinwin,

software develper has given both choices.

primary houses are shown in brackets,which are used in 4 step

-sunil gondhalekar

On 8/15/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil Gondhalekar,It is not necessary to show the secondary significators, which are notshown in the 4 step book and not used in the 4 step?.As per your book, the KPAstro shows only the 4 step primary

significators.Thanks and regards,tw , " sunil gondhalekar " <sunilalaka

wrote:>> Dear dhanabalan,> as per me ketu's signification will be> PLANET : KETU> Itself :-------------- Ketu:- 12 Rashi-Swami Mercury 4 9 12> It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (6) (2) (7)

> It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 10 3 6> It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Ketu:- (12) Rashi-Swami Mercury (4) (9)> 12,star lord mars(6)(2)(7)> Itself aspects :------ 6> i have never said signlord of nodes again to be judged.

> thats why i always mention that read the text book and not guide.> -sunil gondhalekar>> On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan wrote:> >> > Dear Gondhalekar

> >> > Planet Ke:> > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7> > Sublord of Ke is Ju:> > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju{10,> > 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)

> >> > Here, Ketu signifies Mercury, Mercury conjoins Venus and venus is> > aspected by Jupiter are considered..> > It is said that the 4 step theory was developed incorporating all

the> > k.p.rules. But Mr.KSK did not tell anywhere to take the conjoinedplanets of> > signlord and aspecting planet of that conjoined planet. If we golike this> > there is no end for this.

> >> > Can you give reference where you have taken this rule?> >> > Dhanabalan> >> >> > --- On *Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 tw853* wrote:> >

> > tw853 tw853 > Re: 4 step theory> >

> > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:15 AM> >> > Pl read FIRST the Four Step book yourself to understand fully and if> > the authority of the 4 step says it is wrong, then it will be

> > explained referring his book.> >> > @gro ups.com <%40>, > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tin Win> > >> > > This is reference to the chart posted in the file section for

> > study.> > >> > > " For the practical discussion, the KP chart of Sushma's daughter,> > which seems interesting for KP learning, is TEMPORARILY posted in> > the file section of this group under " Sushma's Daughter " , and the 4

> > step primary significators of the KPAstro 3.0 print out are giev> > below:> > >> > > KP marriage> > > - Page 1 -> > > Astrologer: Tin Win, , , - . EMail: tw853

> > > Man Machine Systems, Ph:(044)-22580377. URL: www.system.> > com> > > Printed on: August 08 2008> > >> > >> > > 4 Step Significators> > >

> > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9> > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Ve, Sa> > > Planets in own stars (*): Mo> > >> > > Sa conj 6> > > Me conj Ve

> > > Ra conj Ma> > >> > > Me is aspected by Ju> > > Ju is aspected by Me, Ve> > > Ve is aspected by Ju> > > Ke is aspected by Ma> > > Sa aspects 12

> > >> > > Planet Ke:> > > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7> > > Sublord of Ke is Ju:> > > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju> > {10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)

> > >> > >> > > My doubt:> > > While taking Ketu signification in the star level,> > > 1) Ketu is posited in 12 o.k.> > > 2) Ketu¢s star Mars o.k.

> > > 3) Ketu is in the sign of Mecury representing houses 4, 9 o.k.> > > 4) Mercury conjoins with Venus> > > 5) Venus is aspected by Jupiter.> > >> > > Here, Mercury conjoins Venus, venus is aspected by Jupiter are

> > considered. Is it necessary to consider this chain.. Whether the 4> > step theory says like that.> > >> > > Not only for Ketu, the same type of combination is considered for

> > all the planets in the star level. I am new to this theory. I did> > not come across this type of combination.> > >> > > Dhanabalan> > >> > >> >

> >> >> >>

[Guest guest]

dear tinwin,

nodes signlord is not to be judged again for aspect/

conjunctions.

in my opinion,nodes signlord gives last priority.

-sunil gondhalekar

 

 

, " tw853 " <tw853 wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sunil Gondhalekar ji,

>

> 1. It is automatically taking of Ketu's signlord Mercury's

conjunction

> with Venus and consequently Venus aspected by Jupiter as per your

rules

> of the " conjunction of planets " (say guide point 13 in the file

> section, " A Study Note on 4 Step " ) and the " aspects between

planets "

> (guide point 19) respectively becacuse it is not mentioned in the

4 step

> book that those two rules are not applicable in the case of

Rahu/Ketu's

> signlord.

>

> 2. If you mean to make this restriction, please make it clear and

for

> the benefit of the 4 step lovers, it will be a pleasure to

accordingly

> revise the 4 step primary significators in the KPAstro 3.0.

>

> 3. Please kindly confirm to make this restriction to be no more

doubt.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> tw

>

> , " sunil gondhalekar "

<sunilalaka@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear dhanabalan,

> > as per me ketu's signification will be

> > PLANET : KETU

> > Itself :-------------- Ketu:- 12 Rashi-Swami Mercury 4 9 12

> > It's N.Swami :-------- Mars:- (6) (2) (7)

> > It's Sub :------------ Jupiter:- 10 3 6

> > It's Sub's N.Swami :-- Ketu:- (12) Rashi-Swami Mercury (4) (9)

> > 12,star lord mars(6)(2)(7)

> > Itself aspects :------ 6

> > i have never said signlord of nodes again to be judged.

> > thats why i always mention that read the text book and not guide.

> > -sunil gondhalekar

> >

> > On 8/11/08, Dhanabalan R r.dhanabalan@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Gondhalekar

> > >

> > > Planet Ke:

> > > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7

> > > Sublord of Ke is Ju:

> > > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by Ju

{10,

> > > 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)

> > >

> > > Here, Ketu signifies Mercury, Mercury conjoins Venus and venus

is

> > > aspected by Jupiter are considered..

> > > It is said that the 4 step theory was developed incorporating

all

> the

> > > k.p.rules. But Mr.KSK did not tell anywhere to take the

conjoined

> planets of

> > > signlord and aspecting planet of that conjoined planet. If we

go

> like this

> > > there is no end for this.

> > >

> > > Can you give reference where you have taken this rule?

> > >

> > > Dhanabalan

> > >

> > >

> > > --- On *Sun, 8/10/08, tw853 tw853@* wrote:

> > >

> > > tw853 tw853@

> > > Re: 4 step theory

> > >

> > > Sunday, August 10, 2008, 11:15 AM

> > >

> > > Pl read FIRST the Four Step book yourself to understand fully

and if

> > > the authority of the 4 step says it is wrong, then it will be

> > > explained referring his book.

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com <%

40>,

> > > Dhanabalan R <r.dhanabalan@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Tin Win

> > > >

> > > > This is reference to the chart posted in the file section for

> > > study.

> > > >

> > > > " For the practical discussion, the KP chart of Sushma's

daughter,

> > > which seems interesting for KP learning, is TEMPORARILY posted

in

> > > the file section of this group under " Sushma's Daughter " , and

the 4

> > > step primary significators of the KPAstro 3.0 print out are

giev

> > > below:

> > > >

> > > > KP marriage

> > > > - Page 1 -

> > > > Astrologer: Tin Win, , , - . EMail: tw853

> > > > Man Machine Systems, Ph:(044)-22580377. URL:

www.system.

> > > com

> > > > Printed on: August 08 2008

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > 4 Step Significators

> > > >

> > > > Empty houses: 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9

> > > > Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Su, Ve, Sa

> > > > Planets in own stars (*): Mo

> > > >

> > > > Sa conj 6

> > > > Me conj Ve

> > > > Ra conj Ma

> > > >

> > > > Me is aspected by Ju

> > > > Ju is aspected by Me, Ve

> > > > Ve is aspected by Ju

> > > > Ke is aspected by Ma

> > > > Sa aspects 12

> > > >

> > > > Planet Ke:

> > > > Starlord of Ke is Ma: 6; 2-7

> > > > Sublord of Ke is Ju:

> > > > Starlord of Ju is Ke: 12; Sgl Me(4, 9, Cnj Ve[4, 1-8, Asp by

Ju

> > > {10, 3}]);Stl Ma(6, 2-7)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > My doubt:

> > > > While taking Ketu signification in the star level,

> > > > 1) Ketu is posited in 12 o.k.

> > > > 2) Ketu¢s star Mars o.k.

> > > > 3) Ketu is in the sign of Mecury representing houses 4, 9

o.k.

> > > > 4) Mercury conjoins with Venus

> > > > 5) Venus is aspected by Jupiter.

> > > >

> > > > Here, Mercury conjoins Venus, venus is aspected by Jupiter

are

> > > considered. Is it necessary to consider this chain.. Whether

the 4

> > > step theory says like that.

> > > >

> > > > Not only for Ketu, the same type of combination is

considered for

> > > all the planets in the star level. I am new to this theory. I

did

> > > not come across this type of combination.

> > > >

> > > > Dhanabalan

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>