Deepak Chopra

December 21, 2000

Namaste Brendan,

Deepak Chopra got a very powerfull tehnique called

Bliss tehnique for healing with mantras from Maharishi Mahesh

Yogi. He thought and helped many. However, both Guru and

Shukra are neecha in navamsa chart. I feel it is Mithuna navamsa

with mercury in lagna and chandra in trines, that would put

neecha guru+ketu in 8th house, that could form Asura Yoga(however

it should be checked)

In Dasha of Combust guru and neecha in navamsa( no remedy

for navamsa neecha) he broke away from his Guru, which is expected

having neecha Surya, which I personally do not like. Note as well

kaal sarpa yoga involving dharmakarmadhipati yoga(exhange of 9th

and 10th lords). About this use of his own meditaion/charge of consultation

of 3000 US $ it is predominance of papas in 9th house of religion. He had

his chance anyway..Oncoming shani dasha will put him on the trone, while

endanger his own health, having chandra dispositor in 8th house(ashtama dosha)

which is quite odd for a doctor of such a reputee. Strange and unfathomable

are the laws of karma..

Best wishes,

Zoran

Bpfeeley wrote:

> In a message dated 12/19/2000 3:28:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> srath writes:

>

> Jaya Jagganatha

>

> Namaste Gurudev & Christian

>

> The data that I have for Deepak Chopra, M.D. is below. I have followed his

> career over the years and although I don't know all the details, I have a

> general picture. He is a medical doctor and throughout the 1980's he was

> closely associated with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. Around 1990 he published his

> first book on Ayurveda, Jupiter/Mercury vimshottari dasa. In Jup/Ketu and

> Jup/Ven he became widely popular and wrote some more books. As he gained

> fame, he broke away from his Guru and became a Guru of sorts himself. It is

> said that his knowledge of Ayurveda is not very deep and he simply took some

> very basic concepts and the American public was starving for such

> knowledge/approach to health, especially coming from a medical doctor.

>

> His popularity continued to grow and about 4 - 5 years ago I heard he was

> charging $3,000 for a one hour consultation at his clinic in California. He

> became popular with the Hollywood actors and actresses.

>

> It is said that he did not author his own books and this of course this is

> not unusual in the U.S. today. It is easy to employ a ghost writer, an expert

> in the field, to write for you. He had lots of people around him in the TM

> movement who knew about Ayurveda and some of them approached him with the

> book already written. He had the credentials as a medical doctor and he also

> had the chart for success and presumably those people/writer's were

> delighted. He has a parivarthna yoga in both the rasi and dasamsa between 9th

> and 10th lords.

>

> A few years ago he introduced his own meditation technique referred to as

> Primordial Sound Meditation, his own invention. The sound he gives people is

> based on the letters/sound determined from the jamna nakshatra, the pada

> occupied by the Moon. He trains teachers around the country to " initiate "

> people into this sound and they have to fax the date/time of birth to his

> office to receive the sound to be used for meditation.

>

> I've had some of his teachers consult me over the past few years and I was

> able to tell them the sound that they were given for meditation, much to

> their surprize.

> Gurudev, what do you think of this? Does this have any support from the

> glorious vedic tradition for the selection of mantras?. I suspect not!

>

> I do not see the Asura yoga in this chart?

>

> Regards,

> Brendan

>

> Date of Birth: October 22, 1946

> Time of Birth: 3:45:00 pm

> Time Zone of Birth: 5:30 East of GMT

> Longitude of Birth: 77 E 12

> Latitude of Birth: 28 N 36

> Lunar month (maasa): Aswayuja

> Lunar day (tithi): Krishna Trayodasi

> Tithi balance: 0.4706

> Nakshatra balance: 0.3258

> Sun-Moon Yoga: Indra

> Sun-Moon Karana: Vanija

> Vara (weekday): Tuesday

>

> Sunrise = 6:25 am (Apparent rise - upper limb)

> Ayanamsa = 23-06-34

> Dasa year length chosen = 365.2425 days

>

> Planet Position Pada CharaK

>

> Ascdt 24 Aq 22 Poo.Bhaa. 2 -

> Sun 5 Li 18 Chitra 4 DK

> Moon 5 Vi 39 U.Pha. 3 GK

> Mars 25 Li 59 Visakha 2 AmK

> Mercury 27 Li 23 Visakha 3 AK

> Jupiter 12 Li 37 Swathi 2 MK

> Venus 8 Sc 45 Anuradha 2 PK

> Saturn 15 Cn 00 Pushyami 4 BK

> Rahu 20 Ta 46 Rohini 4 PiK

> Ketu 20 Sc 46 Jyeshtha 2 -

> BhavaLg 24 Aq 41 Poo.Bhaa. 2 -

> HoraLg 14 Cn 28 Pushyami 4 -

> GhatiLg 13 Vi 49 Hastha 2 -

>

> > Dear Christian,

> >

> > I do not know of the chart of Anandamayi and it maybe advisable to look

> into

> > this a little more in depth, especially try to get the authenticity of the

> > time. About Deepak Chopra, I do not know about his spiritual activities and

> > cannot comment. Is he the one who is the management Guru? The Lagna itself

> > is very important also. For example if Sagittarius rises and Guru is

> exalted

> > in 8th house, the implications are totally different and you won't hear

> > " Asura Yoga " from me.

> >

> > I was not writing in Isolation about this point, but was trying to put it

> > into the right perspective when the basics about disease etc were not being

> > spelt out.

> > Best wishes

> > Sanjay Rath

> >

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Info: varahamihira/info.html

December 24, 2000

In a message dated 12/21/2000 3:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, ahimsa

writes:

Namaste Zoran,

His Ayurvedic consultation cost $3000. His meditation instruction approx

$250?? In any case, how do we explain his great international fame during

Guru vomshottari dasa?

If we use Moola dasa, Venus started in 10/89 and it is placed in 10th with

Ketu (in own sign. It continued to 10/99 and corresponds to his period of

fame, rise and writing. Yes, Venus is neecha in D-9 and D-10, but in D-9 his

dispositor Mercury is very strong (especially if we use Gemini lagna). It is

in GL in D-10, in virgo.

Despite the weakness of Venus (neecha is many vargas) it is highest in

shadbala.

Regards,

Brendan

> Namaste Brendan,

> Deepak Chopra got a very powerfull tehnique called

> Bliss tehnique for healing with mantras from Maharishi Mahesh

> Yogi. He thought and helped many. However, both Guru and

> Shukra are neecha in navamsa chart. I feel it is Mithuna navamsa

> with mercury in lagna and chandra in trines, that would put

> neecha guru+ketu in 8th house, that could form Asura Yoga(however

> it should be checked)

> In Dasha of Combust guru and neecha in navamsa( no remedy

> for navamsa neecha) he broke away from his Guru, which is expected

> having neecha Surya, which I personally do not like. Note as well

> kaal sarpa yoga involving dharmakarmadhipati yoga(exhange of 9th

> and 10th lords). About this use of his own meditaion/charge of consultation

> of 3000 US $ it is predominance of papas in 9th house of religion. He had

> his chance anyway..Oncoming shani dasha will put him on the trone, while

> endanger his own health, having chandra dispositor in 8th house(ashtama

> dosha)

> which is quite odd for a doctor of such a reputee. Strange and unfathomable

> are the laws of karma..

> Best wishes,

> Zoran

>

December 25, 2000

Hare Rama Krishna

Pranaam Sanjay,

> Jaya Jagannath

> Dear Brendan & Zoran,

> For Guru droha, a malefic should strongly influence the ninth house

in the

> Dramamsa (Navamsa). Asura Yoga is for Rasi and I don't know if this

can be

> extended to Navamsa.

> Try Narayana dasa for deepak chopra.

> Best Wishes

> Sanjay Rath

I have Taurus lagna in navamsa. Though you questioned it on the list

earlier, you clarified to me privately that you thought my navamsa

lagna (in Taurus) was correct and you started the argument to make

some points to students.

I have Jupiter in Sg in dharmamsa (D-9). He is in 8th. I was afraid

this constituted Asura yoga in navamsa. Though the exact definition

in Phala Deepika is not satisfied, your modified definition (just

Jupiter in 8th) is satisfied.

I am relieved when you say that Asura yoga is for rasi. But I wonder

why it cannot be extended to dharmamsa, considering that whether one

is an asura or not relates mainly to one's dharma.

I have Sun in the 9th house (Cp) in my D-9. Should Sun (a saattwik

sura) be considered a malefic when seeing the influence of malefics

on 9th in D-9?

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

December 25, 2000

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Brendan & Zoran,

For Guru droha, a malefic should strongly influence the ninth house in the

Dramamsa (Navamsa). Asura Yoga is for Rasi and I don't know if this can be

extended to Navamsa.

Try Narayana dasa for deepak chopra.

Best Wishes

Sanjay Rath

-

<Bpfeeley

Sunday, December 24, 2000 3:50 PM

Re: [sri Guru] Deepak Chopra

> In a message dated 12/21/2000 3:26:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ahimsa

> writes:

>

> Namaste Zoran,

>

> His Ayurvedic consultation cost $3000. His meditation instruction approx

> $250?? In any case, how do we explain his great international fame during

> Guru vomshottari dasa?

>

> If we use Moola dasa, Venus started in 10/89 and it is placed in 10th with

> Ketu (in own sign. It continued to 10/99 and corresponds to his period of

> fame, rise and writing. Yes, Venus is neecha in D-9 and D-10, but in D-9

his

> dispositor Mercury is very strong (especially if we use Gemini lagna). It

is

> in GL in D-10, in virgo.

>

> Despite the weakness of Venus (neecha is many vargas) it is highest in

> shadbala.

>

> Regards,

> Brendan

>

> > Namaste Brendan,

> > Deepak Chopra got a very powerfull tehnique called

> > Bliss tehnique for healing with mantras from Maharishi Mahesh

> > Yogi. He thought and helped many. However, both Guru and

> > Shukra are neecha in navamsa chart. I feel it is Mithuna navamsa

> > with mercury in lagna and chandra in trines, that would put

> > neecha guru+ketu in 8th house, that could form Asura Yoga(however

> > it should be checked)

> > In Dasha of Combust guru and neecha in navamsa( no remedy

> > for navamsa neecha) he broke away from his Guru, which is expected

> > having neecha Surya, which I personally do not like. Note as well

> > kaal sarpa yoga involving dharmakarmadhipati yoga(exhange of 9th

> > and 10th lords). About this use of his own meditaion/charge of

consultation

> > of 3000 US $ it is predominance of papas in 9th house of religion. He

had

> > his chance anyway..Oncoming shani dasha will put him on the trone,

while

> > endanger his own health, having chandra dispositor in 8th house(ashtama

> > dosha)

> > which is quite odd for a doctor of such a reputee. Strange and

unfathomable

> > are the laws of karma..

> > Best wishes,

> > Zoran

> >

>

> OM TAT SAT

> Archive: varahamihira

> Info: varahamihira/info.html

>

December 10, 2007

Dear Krishna and All,

Deepak's chart has been discussed (from different perspectives) several

times on both this and the previous JV group. I came across one such

discussion whilst looking for something else. See message #3024

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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" Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, December 10, 2007 2:52 PM

Re: Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house

Dear Krishna,

Let me see how far I can get with Deepak's chart before I have to leave the

computer for awhile...

First important feature is lagna lord Saturn in 6th house. No doubt lagna

lord in this house gives a keen interest in 6th house affairs. I can speak

from personal experience in this instance as I too have lagnesh Sani in 6th.

Deepak graduated from the Institute of Medical Sciences in 1968 during RA/JU

dasa...Saturn dasa didn't come into effect until 1999 (31yrs later).

For myself also, I first entered the nursing profession towards the end of

Rahu dasa - Rahu tightly conjunct Jupiter and both in nakshatra of 9th lord

Mercury. When Saturn dasa began (1975) I had long since left the medical

profession.

You might like to offer your views, but, to my mind, Saturn was not the

direct cause for entering the medical profession in either instance.

Hope to be able to spend more time on this soon but, for now I must be

away...

PS: A feature of Saturn dasa (for Deepak) has been the obstacles he's faced

due to litigations involving plagiarism.

(all of which, to the best of my knowledge, have come out in his favour)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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" Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, December 10, 2007 12:57 AM

Re: Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house

Dear Krishna,

///I look forward to your comments on Deepak Chopra's chart.///

Most certainly; there are some interesting points I'd love to discuss.

Unfortunately it's now almost 1:00am here now (with daylight saving) and I

don't want to slip back into that (hard to break) habit of not getting my

proper rest...

Will definitely offer my comments on Deepak's chart tomorrow :-)

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

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" Krishnamurthy Seetharama " <krishna_1998

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, December 10, 2007 12:46 AM

Re: Re: Sun-Jupiter in same house

Dear Wendy,

I look forward to your comments on Deepak Chopra's chart. Also, please do

share any other doctor's chart if you can.

It is good to hear that your grand children and great-grand children have

moved to Australia. It would be a delight for you, I can imagine. My grand

daughter is almost one year now, has started taking a few steps without any

support. It is so wonderful to watch!

Regards,

Krishna

December 11, 2007

Dear Wendy,

I browsed through some of those messages. Thanks for providing the pointer. It

was very useful read those messages along with many incidents in his life

particularly the law suits portion for and against.

I think these discussions happened few weeks before I joined this list.

Regards,

Krishna

Wendy Vasicek <jyotishvidya wrote: