Ashtakavarga System

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Though I aware of the existence of this System, I do not use

Krushna's Ashtakavarga System. My opinions in the recent messages

were not based on this system.

 

Swamy.

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Hopefully members won't object (too much) if I add my thoughts on

this...

>

> I agree with Swamy that, on the face of it, Saturn's transit

through the

> sign which he contributes a positive point would logically be

considered

> more favourable than when his contribution is negative. In pdk's

chart,

> Saturn contributes a positive point in the first kaksha (if I'm not

> mistaken).

> However, in my opinion, Ashtakavarga is a complex system with it's

own

> unique method for prediction, just as the Parashara and Jaimini

systems

> (also) have their own unique methods.

>

> As an example I paste (below) some basic questions (and answers)

from a

> recognised teacher of the Ashtakavarga system...more can be seen

from the

> following website http://krushna.sageasita.com

>

> **1) What about traditional planetary classifications such as

benefic,

> malefic, and neutral?

> Benefic planets are those that receive more than 4 points in their

> ashtakavarga.

> Malefic planets are those that receive less than 4 points in their

> ashtakavarga.

> Neutral planets are those that receive exactly 4 points in their

> ashtakavarga.

>

> 2) What about traditional aspects? Do they apply?

> Standard Vedic aspects apply: All planets aspect the 7th from

themselves:

> Saturn aspects the 3rd, 7th, and 10th from itself; Mars aspects the

4th,

> 7th, and 8th from itself, while Jupiter aspects the 5th, 7th, and

9th from

> itself. However, the aspects of benefics are always malefic, while

the

> aspects of malefics are always benefic. This is the special effect

we get in

> KAS - which stands for Krushna's Ashtakavarga System.

>

> Benefics (planets with more than 4 points) aspect malefically with

equal

> points. (If Jupiter has 6 points, he aspects malefically with 6

points.)

> Malefics (planets with less than 4 points) aspects benefically with

their

> point minus 8. (If Saturn has 3 points, he aspects benefically with

5

> points.)

> Neutrals (planets with 4 points) aspect neutral with 4 points. (If

Mercury

> has 4 points, he aspects with 4 neutral points.) Refer to Lesson 3

for more

> clarity

>

> 3) Why are natural benefics supposed to be bad in Kendras?

> Again, natural benefics usually have more than 4 points, meaning

that their

> aspect on the Kendra being aspected will be negative. Since

Kendra's are

> more important houses for action, a negative aspect causes more

problems

> here than on other houses.**

>

> So we can clearly see there's a fundamental difference here between

the

> malefic/benefic classifications as per the Ashtakavarga system and

> Parashara's system (as per lordship).

>

> Considering pdk's chart for a moment, it should be noted that Saturn

> transiting Leo will aspect bhukti lord Moon; and, according to the

rules of

> Parashara, Saturn is a functional malefic who's aspect is

unfavourable. One

> might consider this in light of the recent discussions had with pdk

> regarding his health problem and the connection Moon has with

Jupiter. I

> won't delve into this any further as my opinion was already given

to pdk and

> I have nothing more to add to that.

>

> I just wanted to point out (mainly) that Ashtakavarga is a unique

and

> complex system that has it's own set of rules...

>

> Please Note:

> This is my opinion only and is not intended to challenge anyone

else's.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Swamy,

 

Indeed there are different applications, as too, there are differing

opinions amongst the sages regarding whether or not to use the ascendant

ashtakavarga. There are also four discrepancies between HoraSara and

Parasara Hora relating to Moon's Moon, Moon's Mars, Moon's Jupiter, and

Venus' Mars.

As Braha says: It's difficult to know whether the discrepancies are due to

different opinions between the sages, typographical errors, or errors in the

actual translations...

 

I can only repeat however that Ashtakavrga, as a separate technique, is my

opinion only, and not intended to challenge anyone else's. Believe me, I

don't mean to ruffle any feathers, just offering my opinion...

 

Perhaps my point could be best made by using another analogy:

Within the medical profession, legal profession, as well as most scientific

fraternities; there are specific areas of expertise (or specialties) - which

we also find in jyotish. One may wish to specialise in one particular area

in order to gain proficiency...as, for instance, Krushna's guru who

specialised exclusively in the study of ashtakavarga. Such focused study of

a given technique is necessary, in my opinion, to gain a thorough

understanding.

Even BV Raman in his book " Ashtakavarga System of Prediction " admitted that

his understanding of this system was limited and he avoided the

controversial issues such as whether the ashtakavarga of Rahu and Lagna are

to be considered, or whether the ashtakavarga should be reckoned on the

basis of Rasis or Bhavas (in BPHS some reference is made to the reckoning if

a Rasi extends to two Bhavas) etc, etc..

 

Of course we know that BPHS is a compilation of many different techniques.

The clear rules favoured by Parashara's vimsottari system are found side by

side with Jaimini techniques, ashtakavarga and so forth. I don't advocate

one being superior to the other...rather it is Parashara's opinion that

vimsottari is supreme in this age of KaliYuga.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

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" muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar

<jyotish-vidya >

Monday, June 25, 2007 2:55 PM

Re: Ashtakavarga System

 

 

Though I aware of the existence of this System, I do not use

Krushna's Ashtakavarga System. My opinions in the recent messages

were not based on this system.

 

Swamy.