Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Dear bhaskarji, //There are different results attributed to the Vargottama planets in general, for each planet.// Could you explain this please? Thx. Rgds, manasa Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 I remember a discussion on a froum on a chart that had 7 vargottam planets including ra ke man rose to leading industrialist of our nation even though he had a humble beginning kind regs jiger shah - Bhaskar<bhaskar_jyotish jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:43 PM Re: Your view vargothama Dear Manasa, Vargottama planets bestow following results- The Sun- Firmness of mind. Sound health, Popularity, Status in Life,, desire to acquire knowledge. The Moon - Intellect,good memory, Desires fulfilled,Justice mindedness. Mars - desire to learn astrology. courage, encouragement. Mercury - Sharp intellect, convincing capability, impressiveness,desire to learn astrology. Jupiter - Intelligent,well developed physique, truth searcher, capacity to understand others. Venus - Capacity to understand all views related to a subject, knowledge of astrology. Saturn - hindrance in physical development, longevity, can control desires,excersises restraints. In case of Rising ascendant with Vargottama Navamshas, the native concerned would be the head of the respective class represented by the various signs. For instance Leo Ascendant with Leo Navamsha would make him King of Kings. The above of course has to be translated in times of today wherever the result seems inappropriate or undigestable. This would be my last mail on this thread, unless some specific enquiry. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>, manasa sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear bhaskarji, > > //There are different results > > attributed to the Vargottama planets in general, > > for each planet.// > > Could you explain this please? > > Thx. > Rgds, > manasa > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.<http://ca.answers./> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Dear Bhaskarji We have performed her marriage in June. It was arranged but our son in law is known to her. May I kinow what made you arrive at this conclusion. There is one school of thought which says that Chandra and Sukra combination brings love marriage. I request you to enlighten me. Thanks savithri Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Savithriji, Please pardon me for asking, but did she have any Love marriage recently ? regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Group > > I have my daughter's chart wherein as many as 6 planets are vargothama. The rasi and amsa chart looks similar. There are three planets in Pushkara navamsa. > > The planets in vargothama are Rahu Kuja Budha Guru chandra and Ketu. > > The planets in Pushkara mavamsa are Ravi Chandra and Rahu. > > She is born on 3-11-1981 at 4.30PM at Hyderabad. > > I request the members to offer their views. > > savithri > > m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear group, > > I request your view on the following.. > > " A planet in vargottama is as powerful as it is in its own house " . > > As per that such a planet in kendra should give benefic results. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Manasa > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Dear Bhaskarji You are right. Though she is an Engineer she is into finance. She is working as a financial analyst in an American MNC. However she has not invested in shares directly but through mutual funds. regards savithri Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Savithriji, I would consider 4 Planets as Vargottama ( Ignoring Rahu and ketu), and this too is a very important feature in itself. It is seldom that we get to see such charts. Please check the SAV of the Houses in which these Vargottama planets are positioned. If more than 30-40, then they would be very much benefic for her.There are different results attributed to the Vargottama planets in general, for each planet. But your daughter has very good scope to earn huge amounts and profits in the Share Market, is what I noticed. She should be certainly connected to Financial markets, to make good money, specially to invest in Budh and Guru antardashas , she can earn unexpectedly good volumes. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Group > > I have my daughter's chart wherein as many as 6 planets are vargothama. The rasi and amsa chart looks similar. There are three planets in Pushkara navamsa. > > The planets in vargothama are Rahu Kuja Budha Guru chandra and Ketu. > > The planets in Pushkara mavamsa are Ravi Chandra and Rahu. > > She is born on 3-11-1981 at 4.30PM at Hyderabad. > > I request the members to offer their views. > > savithri > > m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear group, > > I request your view on the following.. > > " A planet in vargottama is as powerful as it is in its own house " . > > As per that such a planet in kendra should give benefic results. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Manasa > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Dear Bhaskarji Thanks for your prompt reply. Of course for the love marriage the combination of 5th and 7th house/lords is necessary. You have beautifully analysed and put forth your analysis.You have touched Bhava chart and taken the position of Guru.from Bhava chart. What is your opinion of Sani in Kanya the 7th house, it being 11 and 12 lord. She is v much inclined to take risk enter into business. Much before privatisation and globalisation she questioned me why the Railways are not privatised? Now that you have given a positive view point I am at peace. Thanks again savithri Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Savithriji. Thank You for writing back. I was feeling that I may have offended you and hence you are not replying. Her Rahu MD is on. Guru antar begun on April . Rahu itself signifies the 7th Cusp very strongly, being in P.Vasu which is Gurus constellation Guru is placed in the 7th in the Bhava Chalit. Guru is placed in the 7th as mentioned above, and is in Chitra nakshatra owned by Mars. Mars is placed in the 5th in the cuspal chart, and the owner of the 2nd house . Thus as soon as Guru entered , all the important significators, 2 (Family happiness),5th (Love), and also the 7th (Marriage, got triggered). Hence I assumed that she must have had a Love marriage. In fact after posting the mail, I thought immediately, that I should have written love-cum-arranged marriage, and tried to stop the message from going away, but it got posted. Actually the planets do not matter much. They would only increase or decrease the intensity of the love and the nature and expression of the same as per the planets involved, more physical,or more platonic, or just infatuation, or just mature, or just intellectual plain love etc. The connection for the Love marriage must mandatorily involve the 5th house to be connected to the 7th house, in some way or the other. Hence the prediction was made. The above combination would also give her,what I mentioned in my last mail - Lots of profits in Share Market speculations. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji > > We have performed her marriage in June. It was arranged but our son in law is known to her. > May I kinow what made you arrive at this conclusion. > > There is one school of thought which says that Chandra and Sukra combination brings love marriage. > > I request you to enlighten me. > > Thanks > > savithri > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Savithriji, > > Please pardon me for asking, but did she have any Love > marriage recently ? > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH > <savithri_mahesh2000@> wrote: > > > > Dear Group > > > > I have my daughter's chart wherein as many as 6 planets are > vargothama. The rasi and amsa chart looks similar. There are three > planets in Pushkara navamsa. > > > > The planets in vargothama are Rahu Kuja Budha Guru chandra and Ketu. > > > > The planets in Pushkara mavamsa are Ravi Chandra and Rahu. > > > > She is born on 3-11-1981 at 4.30PM at Hyderabad. > > > > I request the members to offer their views. > > > > savithri > > > > m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth@> wrote: > > > > Dear group, > > > > I request your view on the following.. > > > > " A planet in vargottama is as powerful as it is in its own house " . > > > > As per that such a planet in kendra should give benefic results. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > Manasa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Dear Savithri ji I would like share my humble experience. A vargothama planet could be stronger. But the result the planet is going to give is based on its placement in a particular star and its owner. But definitely not in a sign. The lord of the sign has got limited role, but lord of star in which a planet is posited will give the result of that star lord only. This system is called stellar system. Regards MK Viswanath hyderabad 9440 346 285 www.venusmatrimony.com (free matrimonial website) SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: Dear Bhaskarji We have performed her marriage in June. It was arranged but our son in law is known to her. May I kinow what made you arrive at this conclusion. There is one school of thought which says that Chandra and Sukra combination brings love marriage. I request you to enlighten me. Thanks savithri Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Savithriji, Please pardon me for asking, but did she have any Love marriage recently ? regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Group > > I have my daughter's chart wherein as many as 6 planets are vargothama. The rasi and amsa chart looks similar. There are three planets in Pushkara navamsa. > > The planets in vargothama are Rahu Kuja Budha Guru chandra and Ketu. > > The planets in Pushkara mavamsa are Ravi Chandra and Rahu. > > She is born on 3-11-1981 at 4.30PM at Hyderabad. > > I request the members to offer their views. > > savithri > > m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear group, > > I request your view on the following.. > > " A planet in vargottama is as powerful as it is in its own house " . > > As per that such a planet in kendra should give benefic results. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Manasa > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Dear Bhaskarji, Thanks for the wonderful information. Would serve as a ready reckoner . I was able to co-relate all the points you have mentioned based on the karakatwa, except for venus. Would you please let me know how would venus contribute in understanding and learning of astrology? Best Regards, Sripathi --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Manasa, > > Vargottama planets bestow following results- > > The Sun- Firmness of mind. Sound health, > Popularity, Status in Life,, desire to acquire > knowledge. > > The Moon - Intellect,good memory, Desires > fulfilled,Justice mindedness. > > Mars - desire to learn astrology. courage, > encouragement. > > Mercury - Sharp intellect, convincing capability, > impressiveness,desire to learn astrology. > > Jupiter - Intelligent,well developed physique, > truth searcher, capacity to understand others. > > Venus - Capacity to understand all views related > to a subject, knowledge of astrology. > > Saturn - hindrance in physical development, > longevity, can control desires,excersises > restraints. > > In case of Rising ascendant with Vargottama > Navamshas, the native concerned would be the > head of the respective class > represented by the various signs. > For instance Leo Ascendant with Leo > Navamsha would make him King of Kings. > > The above of course has to be translated > in times of today wherever the result seems > inappropriate or undigestable. > > This would be my last mail on this thread, > unless some specific enquiry. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > jyotish-vidya , manasa > sangeeth <m2sangeeth > wrote: > > > > Dear bhaskarji, > > > > //There are different results > > > > attributed to the Vargottama planets in general, > > > > for each planet.// > > > > Could you explain this please? > > > > Thx. > > Rgds, > > manasa > > > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers > from real people. > Go to Answers and share what you know at > http://ca.answers. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > ______________________________\ ____Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 > > . > Hii taking abt Vargotamma planets .... wat when a planet is vargotamma as well as Retrograde..??? for egs June 18..1986... 9 00 pm...Palallad...;in Kerala ... I have my lord of 4rth and 11th Mars as vakra-vargtamma in Dhanus in 12th house..... and Rahu -Ketu r also vargotmma .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Hello In our opinion a retrograde planet in natal chart does not have any specific negative or positive effect, though Uthara kalamritha says that retrograde planets are equalent to exaltation. Regards MK Viswanath www.venusmatrimony.com (free matrimonial website) Chandramohan S <cmsiit wrote: > > . > Hii taking abt Vargotamma planets .... wat when a planet is vargotamma as well as Retrograde..??? for egs June 18..1986... 9 00 pm...Palallad...;in Kerala ... I have my lord of 4rth and 11th Mars as vakra-vargtamma in Dhanus in 12th house..... and Rahu -Ketu r also vargotmma .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 MK Viswanath, As the (main) focus here is Parashara, it would be good to recognise/promote the basic principles as taught in BPHS sutras. As we know, a planet in retrograde motion is considered stronger than normal. Members can ignore these basic principles and follow their own if they wish but it would be helpful to, at least, present novice astrologers with the basic Parashara principles. They are then well enough informed to make up their own minds...don't you agree? As for the notion that retrograde planets behave as if exalted, it's important to note whether the retrograde planet is travelling towards it's degree of exaltation, or away from it. This conversation has been had many times over on Jyotish-Vidya. Please see BPHS Ch.27 http://jyotishvidya.com/ch27.htm **21-23. PLANETARY MOTIONS (MARS TO SATURN): Eight kinds of motions are attributed to planets. These are Vakra (retrogression), Anuvakra (entering the previous sign in retrograde motion), Vikala (devoid of Motion or in stationary position), Manda (somewhat slower motion than usual), Mandatara (slower than the previous mentioned motion), Sama (somewhat increasing in motion as against Manda), Chara (faster than Sama), and Atichara (entering next sign in accelerated motion). The strengths allotted due to such 8 motions are : 60, 30, 15, 30, 15, 7.5, 45, and 30.** Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Astrologer_vishy Nair " <astrologervishy_nair <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:40 PM Re: Re: Your view vargothama Hello In our opinion a retrograde planet in natal chart does not have any specific negative or positive effect, though Uthara kalamritha says that retrograde planets are equalent to exaltation. Regards MK Viswanath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Dear Mr Viswanath Thanks for ur mail. The stellar Astrology is another branch and I am enlightened. savithri Astrologer_vishy Nair <astrologervishy_nair wrote: Dear Savithri ji I would like share my humble experience. A vargothama planet could be stronger. But the result the planet is going to give is based on its placement in a particular star and its owner. But definitely not in a sign. The lord of the sign has got limited role, but lord of star in which a planet is posited will give the result of that star lord only. This system is called stellar system. Regards MK Viswanath hyderabad 9440 346 285 www.venusmatrimony.com (free matrimonial website) SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: Dear Bhaskarji We have performed her marriage in June. It was arranged but our son in law is known to her. May I kinow what made you arrive at this conclusion. There is one school of thought which says that Chandra and Sukra combination brings love marriage. I request you to enlighten me. Thanks savithri Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Savithriji, Please pardon me for asking, but did she have any Love marriage recently ? regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , SAVITHRI MAHESH <savithri_mahesh2000 wrote: > > Dear Group > > I have my daughter's chart wherein as many as 6 planets are vargothama. The rasi and amsa chart looks similar. There are three planets in Pushkara navamsa. > > The planets in vargothama are Rahu Kuja Budha Guru chandra and Ketu. > > The planets in Pushkara mavamsa are Ravi Chandra and Rahu. > > She is born on 3-11-1981 at 4.30PM at Hyderabad. > > I request the members to offer their views. > > savithri > > m2sangeeth <m2sangeeth wrote: > > Dear group, > > I request your view on the following.. > > " A planet in vargottama is as powerful as it is in its own house " . > > As per that such a planet in kendra should give benefic results. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Manasa > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 hii thanks for enlightening me ..... Lagna Vargotamma and Lagnesh vargotama should produce similar results? I am June 18, 1986...9 00 pm ..Palakkad in Kerala.... I have missed Makara Lagna..but have missed vargotamma for lagna....its navamsa in Aquarius... but Lagnesh (Saturn) in scorpio with Navamsa in libra (exalted) and aspected Lagna.... I plan to do Research ... Research is associated with Saturn and Ketu and I have Ketu in Libra in 10th with Navamsa in Scorpio.... how to you look at my prospects... I am currently persuing my undergrad at IIT Madras and aspire to do PhD abroad and work in R & D field.... suggestions? thanks a million for your clarifications looking forward to hear from you CMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 hii thanks a million for your informative mail... so Libra associated with acting ....Aquarius with spirituality and Leo with Royalty... so wat can be expected for Makara Lagnam? people of which profession is indicated by saturn? so Vargotamma Makara lagnam person should have wat traits in profession? looking forward to hear from you CMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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