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Dear Ramadas and all, Just sharing ought in continuation of my previous post: 5th H of any house is trinal house- to me that, in general, implies favorable attitude toward parenting, as well as compatibility- and, as we've seen, this world and children still exist, Thank Lord Bad parenting we unfortunately see too often, and from my long-term observations, that happens when the parent's chart and Moon are badly afflicted, fifthL and fifthH involved in this negative pattern as well. However we shouldn't go another extreme /all parents are the same and/or all kids are the same- bcs THEY are not!/ and not recognize the differences in parenting patterns. At the first sight we can see that:watch Lagna and 5th house and you may get a pretty good impression, all other things being eqal, of a parenting style. As Zoran said, for CN Lagna fifth is

Vrishchika, so, just knowing two of this, Motherly, nurturing Lagna, & Intense Vrischika, we may comfortably conclude that Cn Lagna is overly-protective, over-possessive of their children/among other related to L. and 5th; When we ad mutual aspects positions from frrom other, etc...the picture change quickly no matter what the Lagna is. Regards, Anna

 

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Dear Shri Ramdas rao garu, thank you for your mail and kind words. i know that the chart that has been given by you belongs to a senior and respected group member. regards, Kishore patnaik

On 07 Apr 2007 08:32:47 -0700, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

 

 

 

 

ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥ ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥

Dear Kishore Ji, I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has

Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40

' and 280 Degs.54'13 " .The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God fearing,learn occult studies.

So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not analyse one's character but we have to look into other planets positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear picture of the character of a person.Even if a person is a good palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret one's character.

Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to

you.That is for your analysis. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.

kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09@

gmail.com> wrote: Sir, Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has

brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. Hope this clears, kishore patnaik On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

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राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥ ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥ Dear Anna,

Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.

I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao.

108ar <bona_mente wrote:

Dear Ramadas, Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh- " popular " astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this.

Regards, AnnaRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

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लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥ Dear Kishore Ji, You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : Date of Birth : 23/03/1952 Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs. Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east )

Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59 " Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59 " With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

Ramadas Rao. nix_nixen <

nix_nixen wrote: Om Gurave Namah,Dear Kishore,One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn this will be the opposite? Warm regards,Tijana

sohamsa , " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:>> Dear Tijana,> > You wrote:> Dear Kishore,> Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of >

Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > You wrote:> > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > My comments:> > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri and tula> are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and airy.> Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority belong to> capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer lagnas.> > > > > > Warm regards,> Tijana> > Warm regards,> > Kishore patnaik> > > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Kishore,> > Certainly it is not the

coincidence that these two are signs of > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa

<sohamsa%40>, " kishorepatnaik " > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > stotram that> > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of

> > kaliyuga> > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > caring

for > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures or> > simply do> > > not know how to raise a child.> > >> > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less

> > in> > > others.> > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything for> > the sake> > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the

> > modern> > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > >> > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat away> > his own> > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic gains.> > > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these lagnas-> > >> > > a) Cancerian gives to

children To compensate this, the 5th lord ie> > mars act> > > as Yoga karaka> > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > lagna lord> > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna

> > >> > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with examples.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Kishore patnaik> > >

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Dear supriti, let me be quick on the chart presented by you, this lady though must have had materialistic comforts did not have a happy family life... i may be wrong and let me correct myself later... but her main support was her first male child, who did well in life. please correct me as i hv done this in a hurry, Kishore patnaik On 05 Apr 2007 09:05:24 -0700, supriti108 <

supriti108 wrote:

 

 

 

 

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Pranaam Kishore ji,

 

This has been my experience too. I am posting a chart of a lady with

Cp Lagna that we can discuss.

 

Regards

Supriti

 

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Lady A

Natal Chart

 

October 1, 1939

Time: 14:04:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 88 E 12' 00 " , 22 N 42' 00 "

Nabadwip, India

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramathi - Bhadrapada

Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (41.17% left)

Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (85.16% left)

Yoga: Harshana (Su) (53.27% left)

Karana: Vishti (Sa) (82.35% left)

Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)

Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Pi)

Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)

 

Sunrise: 5:31:54

Sunset: 17:22:13

Janma Ghatis: 21.3375

 

Ayanamsa: 23-01-04.90

Sidereal Time: 15:03:31

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

 

Lagna 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Srav 1 Cp Ar

Sun - PiK 14 Vi 15' 08.03 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

Moon - MK 15 Ar 18' 40.97 " Bhar 1 Ar Le

Mars - GK 9 Cp 52' 17.24 " USha 4 Cp Pi

Mercury - BK 21 Vi 01' 31.09 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

Jupiter ® - PK 10 Pi 16' 11.25 " UBha 3 Pi Li

Venus - AmK 21 Vi 05' 12.70 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

Saturn ® - DK 6 Ar 22' 30.20 " Aswi 2 Ar Ta

Rahu - AK 7 Li 23' 26.32 " Swat 1 Li Sg

Ketu 7 Ar 23' 26.32 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge

Maandi 1 Aq 05' 43.62 " Dhan 3 Aq Li

Gulika 18 Cp 00' 57.79 " Srav 3 Cp Ge

Uranus ® 28 Ar 29' 17.99 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

Neptune 0 Vi 35' 22.39 " UPha 2 Vi Cp

Pluto 9 Cn 39' 06.81 " Push 2 Cn Vi

Bhava Lagna 21 Cp 55' 39.92 " Srav 4 Cp Cn

Hora Lagna 29 Ta 57' 10.18 " Mrig 2 Ta Vi

Ghati Lagna 24 Ge 01' 40.97 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

Vighati Lagna 24 Li 24' 14.92 " Visa 2 Li Ta

Varnada Lagna 12 Aq 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Aq Vi

Sree Lagna 5 Pi 38' 58.62 " UBha 1 Pi Le

Pranapada Lagna 24 Aq 45' 13.28 " PBha 2 Aq Ta

Indu Lagna 15 Vi 18' 40.97 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

Dhooma 27 Cp 35' 08.03 " Dhan 2 Cp Vi

Vyatipata 2 Ge 24' 51.97 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

Parivesha 2 Sg 24' 51.97 " Mool 1 Sg Ar

Indra Chapa 27 Cn 35' 08.03 " Asre 4 Cn Pi

Upaketu 14 Le 15' 08.03 " PPha 1 Le Le

Kaala 24 Vi 07' 33.05 " Chit 1 Vi Le

Mrityu 3 Sc 55' 06.47 " Anu 1 Sc Le

Artha Prahara 23 Sc 27' 02.59 " Jye 3 Sc Aq

Yama Ghantaka 13 Sg 41' 05.59 " PSha 1 Sg Le

Prana Sphuta 19 Sg 13' 40.13 " PSha 2 Sg Vi

Deha Sphuta 20 Ta 30' 25.54 " Rohi 4 Ta Cn

Mrityu Sphuta 20 Ar 21' 52.54 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

Sookshma TriSphuta 0 Pi 05' 58.21 " PBha 4 Pi Cn

TriSphuta 15 Sc 34' 11.23 " Anu 4 Sc Sc

ChatusSphuta 29 Ar 49' 19.25 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

PanchaSphuta 7 Sc 12' 45.57 " Anu 2 Sc Vi

V2 12 Ta 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ta Sg

V3 12 Ge 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ge Ta

V4 12 Vi 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Vi Ar

V5 12 Li 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Li Ta

V6 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Cp Sg

V7 12 Aq 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Aq Vi

V8 12 Ta 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ta Sg

V9 12 Ge 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ge Ta

V10 12 Vi 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Vi Ar

V11 12 Li 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Li Ta

V12 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Cp Sg

Kunda 1 Li 37' 49.90 " Chit 3 Li Li

 

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ Md / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Ma \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|JuR x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Gk / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / SaR \ 10 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| AL Mo x Ra |

| \ / \ / |

| \ Ke / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / Ve |

|HL x x Me Su |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / GL \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

+--------------+

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Ven Ven 1936-10-28 Sun 1940-02-10 Moon 1941-02-04

Mars 1942-09-27 Rah 1943-11-21 Jup 1946-11-05

Sat 1949-06-22 Merc 1952-08-05 Ket 1955-05-22

Sun Sun 1956-07-15 Moon 1956-10-31 Mars 1957-04-29

Rah 1957-09-02 Jup 1958-07-23 Sat 1959-05-07

Merc 1960-04-13 Ket 1961-02-13 Ven 1961-06-19

Moon Moon 1962-06-14 Mars 1963-04-10 Rah 1963-11-06

Jup 1965-04-29 Sat 1966-08-22 Merc 1968-03-14

Ket 1969-08-06 Ven 1970-03-04 Sun 1971-10-25

Mars Mars 1972-04-22 Rah 1972-09-16 Jup 1973-09-29

Sat 1974-08-31 Merc 1975-10-04 Ket 1976-09-25

Ven 1977-02-19 Sun 1978-04-15 Moon 1978-08-19

Rah Rah 1979-03-17 Jup 1981-11-13 Sat 1984-03-26

Merc 1987-01-16 Ket 1989-07-22 Ven 1990-08-04

Sun 1993-07-19 Moon 1994-06-08 Mars 1995-11-30

Jup Jup 1996-12-12 Sat 1999-01-19 Merc 2001-07-19

Ket 2003-10-13 Ven 2004-09-13 Sun 2007-05-01

Moon 2008-02-13 Mars 2009-06-07 Rah 2010-05-09

Sat Sat 2012-09-19 Merc 2015-09-07 Ket 2018-05-03

Ven 2019-06-06 Sun 2022-07-20 Moon 2023-06-27

Mars 2025-01-17 Rah 2026-02-20 Jup 2028-12-12

Merc Merc 2031-06-12 Ket 2033-10-26 Ven 2034-10-18

Sun 2037-08-03 Moon 2038-06-05 Mars 2039-10-28

Rah 2040-10-19 Jup 2043-04-25 Sat 2045-07-19

Ket Ket 2048-03-14 Ven 2048-08-08 Sun 2049-10-02

Moon 2050-02-05 Mars 2050-09-03 Rah 2051-01-28

Jup 2052-02-10 Sat 2053-01-11 Merc 2054-02-14

 

sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

<kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha

stotram that

> there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of

kaliyuga

> that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not

caring for

> them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures or

simply do

> not know how to raise a child.

>

> However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less

in

> others.

>

> For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything for

the sake

> of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the

modern

> politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

>

> On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat away

his own

> children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic gains.

>

> It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these lagnas-

>

> a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord ie

mars act

> as Yoga karaka

> b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the

lagna lord

> saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna

>

> I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with examples.

>

> regards,

>

> Kishore patnaik

>

> 98492 70729

>

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ॐ श्री राघवेन्द्राय नमः॥ ॐ श्री लक्ष्मीन्रुसिंहाय नमः॥ Dear Kishore Ji, You are most welcome. With śrī hari vāyu guru nāma smaraṇa Ramadas rao. kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: Dear Shri Ramdas rao garu, thank you for your mail and kind words. i know that the chart that has been given by you belongs to a senior and respected group member. regards, Kishore patnaik On 07 Apr 2007 08:32:47 -0700, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯

नमः॥ ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥ Dear Kishore Ji, I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40 ' and 280 Degs.54'13".The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God fearing,learn occult studies. So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not analyse

one's character but we have to look into other planets positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear picture of the character of a person.Even if a person is a good palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret one's character. Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to you.That is for your analysis. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09@ gmail.com> wrote: Sir,

Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. Hope this clears, kishore patnaik On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥ ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥ Dear Anna, Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself. I hope this helps. With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama

Smarana, Ramadas Rao. 108ar <bona_mente > wrote: Dear Ramadas, Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh-"popular" astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this. Regards, AnnaRamadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯

नमः॥ ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥ Dear Kishore Ji, You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : Date of Birth : 23/03/1952 Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs. Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east ) Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59" Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59" With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, Ramadas Rao. nix_nixen < nix_nixen > wrote: Om Gurave Namah,Dear Kishore,One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn this will be the opposite? Warm regards,Tijana sohamsa , "kishore patnaik" <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:>> Dear Tijana,> >

You wrote:> Dear Kishore,> Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > You wrote:> > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > My comments:> > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri and tula> are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and airy.> Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority belong to> capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer lagnas.> > > > > > Warm regards,> Tijana> > Warm regards,> > Kishore

patnaik> > > Om Gurave Namah> > Dear Kishore,> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> >> > sohamsa <sohamsa%40>, "kishorepatnaik"> > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > >> > > Dear all,> > >> > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > stotram that> > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect

of > > kaliyuga> > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > caring for > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures or> > simply do> > > not know how to raise a child.> > >> > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less > > in> > > others.> > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything for> > the sake> > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the > > modern> > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > >> > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat away> > his own> > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic gains.> > > > > > It is

interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these lagnas-> > >> > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord ie> > mars act> > > as Yoga karaka> > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > lagna lord> > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna > > >> > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with examples.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Kishore patnaik> > > > > > 98492 70729> > >> >> > > >> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Don't pick lemons.See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Here�s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Zoranji,

It`s nice you`ve joined the discussion as we don`t have much chance

to see you on our list...I didn`t get the impression that anyone is

claiming or generalize anything but looking for the rationale behind

the main characteristics of the signs that are (whether we like it or

not) given by every Jyotish script.

By intelligence you meant buddhi i suppose, rulled by Jupiter

primarily? Just because of it I would say that general attitude (if

we would like to generalize anything) is decided by lagna and lagna

lord. The stronger Buddhi/Jupiter, the better attitude...surely noone

here won`t forget positions, lordships, karakas etc.

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

 

 

sohamsa , " Zoran Radosavljevic " <ahimsa

wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Friends,

> Having an attitude towards children is not generally decided by

Lagna as stated by some of the list members. Lagna is intelligence

and we can think that having children for me or for you is good or

bad. But the behaviour towards one children will AMONG other things

depend on the lord of the 5th house /sign in the 5th or 9th in Stri

Jataka. So Cancer lagna are extreme towards their children and over

protective, vrischika being in 5th house ruled by Ketu *headless body

guard:)) and Mangala. So please do not generalize about the nature

of one's lagna,otherwise we will be beating around the bush, as Ana

rightly stated that there are no good or bad signs, and here we will

enter what is good or bad/ the concept of mana-right?

> Best wishes

>

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE

> www.siva-edu.com

> -

> kishore patnaik

> sohamsa

> Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:12 PM

> Re: Re: selfishness towards children

>

>

> Sir,

>

> Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and

being born in a specific lagna is all together different.

>

> In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this

difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the

basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the

forefront.

>

> there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the

general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the

general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the

combinations present.

>

> In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the

argument instead of condemning the same in toto.

>

> Hope this clears,

>

> kishore patnaik

>

>

>

> On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

>

> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯

नमः॥

> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°

à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥

>

> Dear Anna,

> Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a

conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best

Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra

as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious

Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.

> I hope this helps.

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

> 108ar <bona_mente wrote:

> Dear Ramadas,

> Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly

reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all

comes from a western Sun-sigh- " popular " astrology, and it has been

treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this

more credit than this.

> Regards,

> Anna

>

> Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯

नमः॥

> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°

à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥

> Dear Kishore Ji,

> You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also

for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the

following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara :

> Date of Birth : 23/03/1952

> Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.

> Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east )

> Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59 "

> Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59 "

> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

> nix_nixen <nix_nixen wrote:

> Om Gurave Namah,

> Dear Kishore,

> One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave

Tula lagna

> aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs

of Mars`

> debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the

Jupiter`s

> situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the

Mother. Now,

> in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will

give that

> discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the

Cancer lagna

> mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of

Capricorn

> this will be the opposite?

> Warm regards,

> Tijana

>

> sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Tijana,

> >

> > You wrote:

> > Dear Kishore,

> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are

signs of

> > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.

> >

> > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my

notice.

> >

> > You wrote:

> >

> > If the fact that 5th lord becoming

> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their

general attitude

> > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna

regarding this?

> >

> > My comments:

> >

> > We need to explore. You will notice that all three,

cancer, capri

> and tula

> > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-

watery, earthy and

> airy.

> > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness,

the majority

> belong to

> > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to

cancer

> lagnas.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Tijana

> >

> > Warm regards,

> >

> > Kishore patnaik

> >

> >

> > Om Gurave Namah

> > > Dear Kishore,

> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two

are signs of

> > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that

5th lord

> becoming

> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their

general attitude

> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna

regarding this?

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Tijana

> > >

> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

> 40>, " kishorepatnaik "

> > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear all,

> > > >

> > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi

aparatha

> > > stotram that

> > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is

the effect of

> > > kaliyuga

> > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their

children, not

> > > caring for

> > > > them in their eternal search for more and more

carnal pleasures

> or

> > > simply do

> > > > not know how to raise a child.

> > > >

> > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna

people and less

> > > in

> > > > others.

> > > >

> > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can

sacrifice anything

> for

> > > the sake

> > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be

seen from the

> > > modern

> > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

> > > >

> > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water

snake can eat

> away

> > > his own

> > > > children to quench their own hunger for more

materialistic

> gains.

> > > >

> > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work

in these

> lagnas-

> > > >

> > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this,

the 5th lord

> ie

> > > mars act

> > > > as Yoga karaka

> > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To

compensate this, the

> > > lagna lord

> > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna

ie Tarus lagna

> > > >

> > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on

these with

> examples.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Kishore patnaik

> > > >

> > > > 98492 70729

> > > >

> > >

> > >

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Pranaam Kishore ji,

 

You are right. She clings to her first male child, to the point

that she is ready to destroy all of his other relationships. She is

fanatical about him and will go to any extent to keep him all to

herself. He is very protective about her and does not see through

any of her manipulations. Neither does he understand how she has

single-handedly destroyed his married life.

 

Regards

Supriti

 

sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

<kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

> Dear supriti,

>

> let me be quick on the chart presented by you, this lady though

must have

> had materialistic comforts did not have a happy family life... i

may be

> wrong and let me correct myself later... but her main support was

her first

> male child, who did well in life.

>

> please correct me as i hv done this in a hurry,

>

> Kishore patnaik

>

> On 05 Apr 2007 09:05:24 -0700, supriti108 <supriti108 wrote:

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Pranaam Kishore ji,

> >

> > This has been my experience too. I am posting a chart of a lady

with

> > Cp Lagna that we can discuss.

> >

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > -------------------------

> >

> > Lady A

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > October 1, 1939

> > Time: 14:04:00

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 88 E 12' 00 " , 22 N 42' 00 "

> > Nabadwip, India

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramathi - Bhadrapada

> > Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (41.17% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> > Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (85.16% left)

> > Yoga: Harshana (Su) (53.27% left)

> > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (82.35% left)

> > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)

> > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Pi)

> > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)

> >

> > Sunrise: 5:31:54

> > Sunset: 17:22:13

> > Janma Ghatis: 21.3375

> >

> > Ayanamsa: 23-01-04.90

> > Sidereal Time: 15:03:31

> >

> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> >

> > Lagna 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Srav 1 Cp Ar

> > Sun - PiK 14 Vi 15' 08.03 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

> > Moon - MK 15 Ar 18' 40.97 " Bhar 1 Ar Le

> > Mars - GK 9 Cp 52' 17.24 " USha 4 Cp Pi

> > Mercury - BK 21 Vi 01' 31.09 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > Jupiter ® - PK 10 Pi 16' 11.25 " UBha 3 Pi Li

> > Venus - AmK 21 Vi 05' 12.70 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > Saturn ® - DK 6 Ar 22' 30.20 " Aswi 2 Ar Ta

> > Rahu - AK 7 Li 23' 26.32 " Swat 1 Li Sg

> > Ketu 7 Ar 23' 26.32 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge

> > Maandi 1 Aq 05' 43.62 " Dhan 3 Aq Li

> > Gulika 18 Cp 00' 57.79 " Srav 3 Cp Ge

> > Uranus ® 28 Ar 29' 17.99 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

> > Neptune 0 Vi 35' 22.39 " UPha 2 Vi Cp

> > Pluto 9 Cn 39' 06.81 " Push 2 Cn Vi

> > Bhava Lagna 21 Cp 55' 39.92 " Srav 4 Cp Cn

> > Hora Lagna 29 Ta 57' 10.18 " Mrig 2 Ta Vi

> > Ghati Lagna 24 Ge 01' 40.97 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > Vighati Lagna 24 Li 24' 14.92 " Visa 2 Li Ta

> > Varnada Lagna 12 Aq 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Aq Vi

> > Sree Lagna 5 Pi 38' 58.62 " UBha 1 Pi Le

> > Pranapada Lagna 24 Aq 45' 13.28 " PBha 2 Aq Ta

> > Indu Lagna 15 Vi 18' 40.97 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

> > Dhooma 27 Cp 35' 08.03 " Dhan 2 Cp Vi

> > Vyatipata 2 Ge 24' 51.97 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

> > Parivesha 2 Sg 24' 51.97 " Mool 1 Sg Ar

> > Indra Chapa 27 Cn 35' 08.03 " Asre 4 Cn Pi

> > Upaketu 14 Le 15' 08.03 " PPha 1 Le Le

> > Kaala 24 Vi 07' 33.05 " Chit 1 Vi Le

> > Mrityu 3 Sc 55' 06.47 " Anu 1 Sc Le

> > Artha Prahara 23 Sc 27' 02.59 " Jye 3 Sc Aq

> > Yama Ghantaka 13 Sg 41' 05.59 " PSha 1 Sg Le

> > Prana Sphuta 19 Sg 13' 40.13 " PSha 2 Sg Vi

> > Deha Sphuta 20 Ta 30' 25.54 " Rohi 4 Ta Cn

> > Mrityu Sphuta 20 Ar 21' 52.54 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > Sookshma TriSphuta 0 Pi 05' 58.21 " PBha 4 Pi Cn

> > TriSphuta 15 Sc 34' 11.23 " Anu 4 Sc Sc

> > ChatusSphuta 29 Ar 49' 19.25 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

> > PanchaSphuta 7 Sc 12' 45.57 " Anu 2 Sc Vi

> > V2 12 Ta 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ta Sg

> > V3 12 Ge 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ge Ta

> > V4 12 Vi 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Vi Ar

> > V5 12 Li 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Li Ta

> > V6 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Cp Sg

> > V7 12 Aq 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Aq Vi

> > V8 12 Ta 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ta Sg

> > V9 12 Ge 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ge Ta

> > V10 12 Vi 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Vi Ar

> > V11 12 Li 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Li Ta

> > V12 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Cp Sg

> > Kunda 1 Li 37' 49.90 " Chit 3 Li Li

> >

> > Rasi

> > +--------------+

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ Md / \ / |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / Ma \ / |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > |JuR x As x |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ Gk / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / SaR \ 10 / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | AL Mo x Ra |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ Ke / \ / |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / \ / Ve |

> > |HL x x Me Su |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / GL \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > +--------------+

> >

> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> >

> > Ven Ven 1936-10-28 Sun 1940-02-10 Moon 1941-02-04

> > Mars 1942-09-27 Rah 1943-11-21 Jup 1946-11-05

> > Sat 1949-06-22 Merc 1952-08-05 Ket 1955-05-22

> > Sun Sun 1956-07-15 Moon 1956-10-31 Mars 1957-04-29

> > Rah 1957-09-02 Jup 1958-07-23 Sat 1959-05-07

> > Merc 1960-04-13 Ket 1961-02-13 Ven 1961-06-19

> > Moon Moon 1962-06-14 Mars 1963-04-10 Rah 1963-11-06

> > Jup 1965-04-29 Sat 1966-08-22 Merc 1968-03-14

> > Ket 1969-08-06 Ven 1970-03-04 Sun 1971-10-25

> > Mars Mars 1972-04-22 Rah 1972-09-16 Jup 1973-09-29

> > Sat 1974-08-31 Merc 1975-10-04 Ket 1976-09-25

> > Ven 1977-02-19 Sun 1978-04-15 Moon 1978-08-19

> > Rah Rah 1979-03-17 Jup 1981-11-13 Sat 1984-03-26

> > Merc 1987-01-16 Ket 1989-07-22 Ven 1990-08-04

> > Sun 1993-07-19 Moon 1994-06-08 Mars 1995-11-30

> > Jup Jup 1996-12-12 Sat 1999-01-19 Merc 2001-07-19

> > Ket 2003-10-13 Ven 2004-09-13 Sun 2007-05-01

> > Moon 2008-02-13 Mars 2009-06-07 Rah 2010-05-09

> > Sat Sat 2012-09-19 Merc 2015-09-07 Ket 2018-05-03

> > Ven 2019-06-06 Sun 2022-07-20 Moon 2023-06-27

> > Mars 2025-01-17 Rah 2026-02-20 Jup 2028-12-12

> > Merc Merc 2031-06-12 Ket 2033-10-26 Ven 2034-10-18

> > Sun 2037-08-03 Moon 2038-06-05 Mars 2039-10-28

> > Rah 2040-10-19 Jup 2043-04-25 Sat 2045-07-19

> > Ket Ket 2048-03-14 Ven 2048-08-08 Sun 2049-10-02

> > Moon 2050-02-05 Mars 2050-09-03 Rah 2051-01-28

> > Jup 2052-02-10 Sat 2053-01-11 Merc 2054-02-14

> >

> > sohamsa <sohamsa%

40>, " kishorepatnaik "

> >

> > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha

> > stotram that

> > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of

> > kaliyuga

> > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not

> > caring for

> > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal

pleasures or

> > simply do

> > > not know how to raise a child.

> > >

> > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and

less

> > in

> > > others.

> > >

> > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice

anything for

> > the sake

> > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the

> > modern

> > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

> > >

> > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat

away

> > his own

> > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic

gains.

> > >

> > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these

lagnas-

> > >

> > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th

lord ie

> > mars act

> > > as Yoga karaka

> > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the

> > lagna lord

> > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus

lagna

> > >

> > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with

examples.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> > > 98492 70729

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Om krishna guru,

respected ramadasji .

namaskrar and pranams.

Thanks for informativ and valuable post.

can u tell me abt the persons born in abhijit janma nakshatra (within the specified degrees) and differrence between abhijit in day and nite muhurta if some body borns in that time .I heard from some sourses that indian indipendence selected in abhijit nite muhurta.

what effect it will giv other than normal birth or whether we should take it when deliniating the charts as it will show in software as differrent nakhasatra other than abhijit.And also dasas in moon vimshottarry.

with deep respect.

your sisya sunil nair .

om shreem maha laxmai namah.

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear Kishore Ji,> I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40' and 280 Degs.54'13".The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God fearing,learn occult studies.> So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not analyse one's character but we have to look into other planets positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear picture of the character of a person.Even if a person is a good palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret one's character.> Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to you.That is for your analysis.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > > kishore patnaik kishorepatnaik09 wrote:> Sir, > > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. > > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. > > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. > > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. > > Hope this clears, > > kishore patnaik > > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> > Dear Anna,> Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.> I hope this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao. > > 108ar bona_mente wrote:> > Dear Ramadas,> Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh-"popular" astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this.> Regards,> Anna> > Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote:> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> Dear Kishore Ji,> You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952> Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.> Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east ) > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59"> Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59"> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao.> > > nix_nixen nix_nixen wrote:> Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Kishore,> One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna > aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that > discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn > this will be the opposite? > Warm regards,> Tijana > > sohamsa , "kishore patnaik" > kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:> >> > Dear Tijana,> > > > You wrote:> > Dear Kishore,> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > > > You wrote:> > > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > > > My comments:> > > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri > and tula> > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and > airy.> > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority > belong to> > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer > lagnas.> > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Kishore,> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord > becoming> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%> 40>, "kishorepatnaik"> > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > >> > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > > stotram that> > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of> > > kaliyuga> > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > > caring for > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures > or> > > simply do> > > > not know how to raise a child.> > > >> > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less> > > in> > > > others.> > > > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything > for> > > the sake> > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the> > > modern> > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > > >> > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat > away> > > his own> > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic > gains.> > > > > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these > lagnas-> > > >> > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord > ie> > > mars act> > > > as Yoga karaka> > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > > lagna lord> > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna> > > >> > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with > examples.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > >> > > > 98492 70729> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > Don't pick lemons.> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers>

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Om krishna guru,

respected ramadasji .

namaskrar and pranams.

Thanks for informativ and valuable post.

can u tell me abt the persons born in abhijit janma nakshatra (within the specified degrees) and differrence between abhijit in day and nite muhurta if some body borns in that time .I heard from some sourses that indian indipendence selected in abhijit nite muhurta.

what effect it will giv other than normal birth or whether we should take it when deliniating the charts as it will show in software as differrent nakhasatra other than abhijit.And also dasas in moon vimshottarry.

with deep respect.

your sisya sunil nair .

om shreem maha laxmai namah.

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear Kishore Ji,> I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40' and 280 Degs.54'13".The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God fearing,learn occult studies.> So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not analyse one's character but we have to look into other planets positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear picture of the character of a person.Even if a person is a good palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret one's character.> Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to you.That is for your analysis.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > > kishore patnaik kishorepatnaik09 wrote:> Sir, > > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. > > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. > > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. > > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. > > Hope this clears, > > kishore patnaik > > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> > Dear Anna,> Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.> I hope this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao. > > 108ar bona_mente wrote:> > Dear Ramadas,> Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh-"popular" astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this.> Regards,> Anna> > Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote:> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> Dear Kishore Ji,> You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952> Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.> Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east ) > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59"> Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59"> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao.> > > nix_nixen nix_nixen wrote:> Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Kishore,> One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna > aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that > discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn > this will be the opposite? > Warm regards,> Tijana > > sohamsa , "kishore patnaik" > kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:> >> > Dear Tijana,> > > > You wrote:> > Dear Kishore,> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > > > You wrote:> > > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > > > My comments:> > > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri > and tula> > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and > airy.> > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority > belong to> > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer > lagnas.> > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Kishore,> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord > becoming> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%> 40>, "kishorepatnaik"> > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > >> > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > > stotram that> > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of> > > kaliyuga> > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > > caring for > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures > or> > > simply do> > > > not know how to raise a child.> > > >> > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less> > > in> > > > others.> > > > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything > for> > > the sake> > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the> > > modern> > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > > >> > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat > away> > > his own> > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic > gains.> > > > > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these > lagnas-> > > >> > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord > ie> > > mars act> > > > as Yoga karaka> > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > > lagna lord> > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna> > > >> > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with > examples.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > >> > > > 98492 70729> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > Don't pick lemons.> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers>

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Dear Kishore,

 

Was I sharp? I never realized that. I was merely stating what was

apparent. As I see it the Dharma trikona rests on the foundation of 5th

and 9th bhava and as such if the lagna bhava is to survive it can not

take away from either the 5th or the 9th bhava. That is why the rasis

that are in trine to each other belong to mutual friends. That also is

the reason I do not see any rasi by itself being capable of taking away

from or delivering something additional to the 5th bhava, whether Cancer

or Capricorn. Afflictions to these bhavas can only occur if planets that

are malefic occupy of aspect the bhavas. As I remember that Parashara

says that trikona lords are always shubha for a lagna.

 

May I know your astrological logic for thinking that cancer gives to the

5th whereas Capricorn takes away from it, or something to that effect?

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

kishore patnaik wrote:

>

> Dear chandra sekhar,

>

> 1. There is nothing personal in this as neither I nor any of my near and

> dear ones have those two lagnas. Even if that were the case, I would

> never take principles going in favour or against one's understanding of

> a person, personally in Jyotish discussions.

>

> My comments: Your response was very untypically sharp and with the

> preamble

> not to mind your words, your sharpness was indeed deliberate. Hence,

> it was

> my perception that it was personal. It does not matter whether it is

> personal or not, so long as I learn a new point (or, if god is great,

> a good

> lot of them) from your posts. In fact, it would have been better if it

> were

> personal, since you would have quoted examples you knew intimately. .

>

> What I was trying to point out was that there appeared to be no basis in

> astrological texts for the statement that Cancer ascendant people give

> to children and neither is there anything in the texts to show that

> Capricorn people take from children.

>

> My comments: How can you say that? Kindly post your astrological basis to

> discuss the selfishness towards children of various signs. So be it, if it

> is established that capricorn people are the most tear jerking sacrificing

> parents in the world. I have nothing personal in it, too

>

> The examples of Sonia or Deve Gowda

> only tell what is general and that is every politician of the Indian

> origin wants her/his dynasty to be established through bringing his/her

> progeny into politics. There was no sacrifice involved in both cases,

> only political compulsions masquerading as sacrifice. In the first case

> no sacrifice had entered the mind when claiming to form a government

> with her as the leader during the earlier failed attempt at forming the

> Government, courtesy Mulayamsingh, and in later case it was a face

> saving exercise, in view of the total revolt by party members that could

> have led to the worthy's imminent expulsion from his party.

>

> My comments: I am not talking of sonia gandhi or deve gowda are not

> selfish. In spite of their selfish thinking, when it comes to the

> children,

> they have sacrificed. Sonia gandhi shunned politics till her children were

> out of danger and it is inner story that deve gowda had to sacrifice a lot

> for his son to become chief minister.

>

> I do not think all dictum are generalizations and even when they appear

> to be so, they have some basis in established principles of astrology.

> But as I said sometime back I am a bit orthodox in matters astrological,

> and those more knowledgeable than me might hold a different view.

>

> My comments: I am orthodox too and I condemn anyone who do not follow

> dictums or try to make up their own rules. Not that I am against new

> dictums but I am not sure that the modern man can makeup the right

> dictums.

>

> I once again request you to kindly share your knowledge on the subject,

> debating the points either for or against, as your knowledge and

> experiences

> be, for the benefit of the group in general and for my benefit in

> particular.

>

> regards,

>

> kishore patnaik

>

>

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Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Tijana,

There are different shades of budhi, signified by different lagnas. That is why each lagna will have different sign in the 5th house showing the different attitude towars the kids. Get it?

Best wishes

Zoran RadosavljevicAdministrator at SIVA INSTITUTEwww.siva-edu.com

 

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nix_nixen

sohamsa

Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:45 PM

Re: selfishness towards children

 

 

Om Gurave NamahDear Zoranji,It`s nice you`ve joined the discussion as we don`t have much chance to see you on our list...I didn`t get the impression that anyone is claiming or generalize anything but looking for the rationale behind the main characteristics of the signs that are (whether we like it or not) given by every Jyotish script. By intelligence you meant buddhi i suppose, rulled by Jupiter primarily? Just because of it I would say that general attitude (if we would like to generalize anything) is decided by lagna and lagna lord. The stronger Buddhi/Jupiter, the better attitude...surely noone here won`t forget positions, lordships, karakas etc.Warm regards,Tijanasohamsa , "Zoran Radosavljevic" <ahimsa wrote:>> Om Namah Shivaya,> Dear Friends,> Having an attitude towards children is not generally decided by Lagna as stated by some of the list members. Lagna is intelligence and we can think that having children for me or for you is good or bad. But the behaviour towards one children will AMONG other things depend on the lord of the 5th house /sign in the 5th or 9th in Stri Jataka. So Cancer lagna are extreme towards their children and over protective, vrischika being in 5th house ruled by Ketu *headless body guard:)) and Mangala. So please do not generalize about the nature of one's lagna,otherwise we will be beating around the bush, as Ana rightly stated that there are no good or bad signs, and here we will enter what is good or bad/ the concept of mana-right?> Best wishes> > Zoran Radosavljevic> Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE> www.siva-edu.com> - > kishore patnaik > sohamsa > Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:12 PM> Re: Re: selfishness towards children> > > Sir, > > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. > > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. > > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. > > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. > > Hope this clears, > > kishore patnaik > > > > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> > Dear Anna,> Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.> I hope this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > 108ar <bona_mente wrote:> Dear Ramadas,> Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh-"popular" astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this.> Regards,> Anna> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> Dear Kishore Ji,> You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952> Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.> Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east ) > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59"> Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59"> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao.> > > nix_nixen <nix_nixen wrote:> Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Kishore,> One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna > aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that > discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn > this will be the opposite? > Warm regards,> Tijana > > sohamsa , "kishore patnaik" > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> >> > Dear Tijana,> > > > You wrote:> > Dear Kishore,> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > > > You wrote:> > > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > > > My comments:> > > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri > and tula> > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and > airy.> > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority > belong to> > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer > lagnas.> > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Kishore,> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord > becoming> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%> 40>, "kishorepatnaik"> > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > >> > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > > stotram that> > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of> > > kaliyuga> > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > > caring for > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures > or> > > simply do> > > > not know how to raise a child.> > > >> > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less> > > in> > > > others.> > > > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything > for> > > the sake> > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the> > > modern> > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > > >> > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat > away> > > his own> > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic > gains.> > > > > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these > lagnas-> > > >> > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord > ie> > > mars act> > > > as Yoga karaka> > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > > lagna lord> > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna> > > >> > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with > examples.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > >> > > > 98492 70729> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -----------------------------> Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > -------------------------------> Don't pick lemons.> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers>

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Om Gurave Namah

Dear Zoran,

Different shades of buddhi signified by DIFFERENT LAGNAS was exactly

my point. Is it our sanskrit that creating confusion...maybe?

Warm regards,

Tijana

 

 

sohamsa , " Zoran Radosavljevic " <ahimsa

wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Dear Tijana,

> There are different shades of budhi, signified by different lagnas.

That is why each lagna will have different sign in the 5th house

showing the different attitude towars the kids. Get it?

> Best wishes

> Zoran Radosavljevic

> Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE

> www.siva-edu.com

> -

> nix_nixen

> sohamsa

> Saturday, April 07, 2007 7:45 PM

> Re: selfishness towards children

>

>

> Om Gurave Namah

> Dear Zoranji,

> It`s nice you`ve joined the discussion as we don`t have much

chance

> to see you on our list...I didn`t get the impression that anyone

is

> claiming or generalize anything but looking for the rationale

behind

> the main characteristics of the signs that are (whether we like

it or

> not) given by every Jyotish script.

> By intelligence you meant buddhi i suppose, rulled by Jupiter

> primarily? Just because of it I would say that general attitude

(if

> we would like to generalize anything) is decided by lagna and

lagna

> lord. The stronger Buddhi/Jupiter, the better attitude...surely

noone

> here won`t forget positions, lordships, karakas etc.

> Warm regards,

> Tijana

>

> sohamsa , " Zoran Radosavljevic " <ahimsa@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Dear Friends,

> > Having an attitude towards children is not generally decided by

> Lagna as stated by some of the list members. Lagna is

intelligence

> and we can think that having children for me or for you is good

or

> bad. But the behaviour towards one children will AMONG other

things

> depend on the lord of the 5th house /sign in the 5th or 9th in

Stri

> Jataka. So Cancer lagna are extreme towards their children and

over

> protective, vrischika being in 5th house ruled by Ketu *headless

body

> guard:)) and Mangala. So please do not generalize about the

nature

> of one's lagna,otherwise we will be beating around the bush, as

Ana

> rightly stated that there are no good or bad signs, and here we

will

> enter what is good or bad/ the concept of mana-right?

> > Best wishes

> >

> > Zoran Radosavljevic

> > Administrator at SIVA INSTITUTE

> > www.siva-edu.com

> > -

> > kishore patnaik

> > sohamsa

> > Saturday, April 07, 2007 2:12 PM

> > Re: Re: selfishness towards children

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and

> being born in a specific lagna is all together different.

> >

> > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this

> difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the

> basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to

the

> forefront.

> >

> > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the

> general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar,

the

> general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the

> combinations present.

> >

> > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the

> argument instead of condemning the same in toto.

> >

> > Hope this clears,

> >

> > kishore patnaik

> >

> >

> >

> > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> >

> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥? राà¤~वà¥?नà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯

> नमà¤f॥

> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥? लà¤.à¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥?नà¥à¤°

> à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤,हाय नमà¤f॥

> >

> > Dear Anna,

> > Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a

> conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the

best

> Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this

Nakshatra

> as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other

auspicious

> Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.

> > I hope this helps.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> > 108ar <bona_mente@> wrote:

> > Dear Ramadas,

> > Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly

> reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it

all

> comes from a western Sun-sigh- " popular " astrology, and it has

been

> treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give

this

> more credit than this.

> > Regards,

> > Anna

> >

> > Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥? राà¤~वà¥?नà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯

> नमà¤f॥

> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥? लà¤.à¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥?नà¥à¤°

> à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤,हाय नमà¤f॥

> > Dear Kishore Ji,

> > You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also

> for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of

the

> following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara :

> > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952

> > Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.

> > Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east )

> > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59 "

> > Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59 "

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> > nix_nixen <nix_nixen@> wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah,

> > Dear Kishore,

> > One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave

> Tula lagna

> > aside for nowâ?¦Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs

> of Mars`

> > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the

> Jupiter`s

> > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the

> Mother. Now,

> > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will

> give that

> > discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the

> Cancer lagna

> > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of

> Capricorn

> > this will be the opposite?

> > Warm regards,

> > Tijana

> >

> > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tijana,

> > >

> > > You wrote:

> > > Dear Kishore,

> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are

> signs of

> > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.

> > >

> > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my

> notice.

> > >

> > > You wrote:

> > >

> > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming

> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their

> general attitude

> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna

> regarding this?

> > >

> > > My comments:

> > >

> > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three,

> cancer, capri

> > and tula

> > > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-

> watery, earthy and

> > airy.

> > > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness,

> the majority

> > belong to

> > > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to

> cancer

> > lagnas.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Tijana

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Dear Kishore,

> > > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two

> are signs of

> > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that

> 5th lord

> > becoming

> > > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their

> general attitude

> > > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna

> regarding this?

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > Tijana

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

> > 40>, " kishorepatnaik "

> > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi

> aparatha

> > > > stotram that

> > > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is

> the effect of

> > > > kaliyuga

> > > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their

> children, not

> > > > caring for

> > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more

> carnal pleasures

> > or

> > > > simply do

> > > > > not know how to raise a child.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna

> people and less

> > > > in

> > > > > others.

> > > > >

> > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can

> sacrifice anything

> > for

> > > > the sake

> > > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be

> seen from the

> > > > modern

> > > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

> > > > >

> > > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water

> snake can eat

> > away

> > > > his own

> > > > > children to quench their own hunger for more

> materialistic

> > gains.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work

> in these

> > lagnas-

> > > > >

> > > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this,

> the 5th lord

> > ie

> > > > mars act

> > > > > as Yoga karaka

> > > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To

> compensate this, the

> > > > lagna lord

> > > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna

> ie Tarus lagna

> > > > >

> > > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on

> these with

> > examples.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Kishore patnaik

> > > > >

> > > > > 98492 70729

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Muhurta.Now let me clear about Abhiji Nakshatra which I was referring in my previous mail.This Nakshatra is also called as " VEGAS " by Greeks.I have already mentioned about the longitude of this Nakshatra which is presided by Lord Brahma.For those who have born in this Nakshatra, it is mentioned that Ashtottari Dasa can be used.Any planet located in this Nakshatra will cause Vedha to the planets posited in Rohini Nakshatra and vice versa.More than the Graha Chandra here,Surya here will be very auspicious in anybody's chart.Surya will be more powerful than his Uccha Sthana or his own house.The native with Surya in this Nakshatra will have highest longevity as no evil effect can be caused by any other planet as the native will be under a Kavacha or cover.He/ she will enjoy maximum power and authority in his own birth country.Similar is the position of Guru in this Nakshatra.Eventhough he is debilitated in this Makara Rashi, any other malefic planets' evil

effects will be nullified and Guru's debilitation will get cancelled.The native attains a top position in the government, or a minister etc.Even Ketu here gives good results.Kuja is also good.Shukra delays marraige but will give stable marriage life.Budha does not give any effects in this Nakshatra.Shani and Rahu give malefic results. Now I will come to Abhijin( Abhijit ) Muhurta : A Muhurta is an auspicious time for the beginning of any new event.In selecting a Muhurta, Bhrigu Maharshi or Shukracharya says that a Samvatsara ( a year ),Ritu ( 2 solar months ),Masa ( Half of a Ritu or a solar month ),Paksha ( a fortnight ), Dina, ( a week day ),Muhurta ( 2 Ghatikas or 48 minutes of time ) are stronger in the ascending order.So this means Muhurta is strongest than all.But there is another factor called Nadika which is 1 Ghatika or 24 minutes of time which is the strongest

of all the above in selecting a Muhurta.In this context,I would like to give some detailed information about Nadika as explained by Maharshi Shukracharya. He clarifies that the most auspicious Muhurta as chosen by Guru Brihaspaty is Abhijit which removes all the malefic influences of all the Grahas.But he goes one step ahead and says the Nadika or 1 Ghatika time is the best in all Muhurtas.This information Acharya Bhrigu gives to Lord Devendra.The reason was Lord Devendra asked Bhrigu Maharshi why the forests He constructed burnt completely.Then Acharya Bhrigu says that Devendra selected a Muhurta on a Tuesday but the Nadika was Dahana which is ruled by Agni Nakshatra Krittika.So even if the Muhurta is auspicious Nadika also must be auspicious otherwise all the efforts will be in vain. We know that in a day 24 Muhurtas are there and 60 nadikas in one day counted from Sun rise to

next day Sun Rise.These Nadikas are named after 27 nakshatras staring from Vishakha to Swati,then Jyotsna, Sandhya and Maitri.So all in all 30 Nadikas repeating again 30 Nadikas constitute 24 Hrs. of time.The Nadikas are none other than the Avashtas of transitting Chandra.Irrespective of the week day, the Nadika starts from Vishakha and ends with Maitri in the 2nd round ie., 60th Nadika. Now as an example,in India's Independence chart,the Muhurta Lagna selected was 00 :00 Hrs. on 14th night of 1947.The muhurta at that time was Vidhatri ( Brahma ) ,the creator and the Nadika was ruled by Rohini ( 46th Nadika )which means great gains through enemies.Its lord is Guru.So even the Muhurta Lagna is afflicted by nodes Rahu- Ketu,because of the best Nadika and Muhurta, India even after fighting with its neigbouring country,it got victory.India is slowly progressing towards a powerful nation again. I hope

this helps you. With śrī hari vāyu guru nāma smaraṇa Ramadas Rao. astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Om krishna guru, respected ramadasji . namaskrar and pranams. Thanks for informativ and valuable post. can u tell me abt the persons born in abhijit janma nakshatra (within the specified degrees) and differrence between abhijit in day and nite muhurta if some body borns in that time .I heard from some sourses that indian indipendence

selected in abhijit nite muhurta. what effect it will giv other than normal birth or whether we should take it when deliniating the charts as it will show in software as differrent nakhasatra other than abhijit.And also dasas in moon vimshottarry. with deep respect. your sisya sunil nair . om shreem maha laxmai namah. sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;

& #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear Kishore Ji,> I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40' and 280 Degs.54'13".The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God fearing,learn occult studies.> So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not analyse one's character but we have to look

into other planets positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear picture of the character of a person.Even if a person is a good palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret one's character.> Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to you.That is for your analysis.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > > kishore patnaik kishorepatnaik09 wrote:> Sir, > > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. > > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. > > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are

discussing the general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. > > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. > > Hope this clears, > > kishore patnaik > > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> > Dear Anna,> Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.> I hope

this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao. > > 108ar bona_mente wrote:> > Dear Ramadas,> Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh-"popular" astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this.> Regards,> Anna> > Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote:> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> Dear Kishore Ji,> You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952> Time of Birth :

03:35:39 Hrs.> Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east ) > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59"> Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59"> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao.> > > nix_nixen nix_nixen wrote:> Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Kishore,> One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna > aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that > discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn > this will be the opposite? > Warm regards,> Tijana > > sohamsa , "kishore

patnaik" > kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:> >> > Dear Tijana,> > > > You wrote:> > Dear Kishore,> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > > > You wrote:> > > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > > > My comments:> > > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri > and tula> > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and > airy.> > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority > belong to> >

capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer > lagnas.> > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Kishore,> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord > becoming> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%> 40>, "kishorepatnaik"> > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > >

>> > > > Dear all,> > > >> > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > > stotram that> > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of> > > kaliyuga> > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > > caring for > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures > or> > > simply do> > > > not know how to raise a child.> > > >> > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less> > > in> > > > others.> > > > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything > for> > > the sake> > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from

the> > > modern> > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > > >> > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat > away> > > his own> > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic > gains.> > > > > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these > lagnas-> > > >> > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord > ie> > > mars act> > > > as Yoga karaka> > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > > lagna lord> > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna> > > >> > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with > examples.>

> > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > >> > > > 98492 70729> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > Don't pick lemons.> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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ॐ श्री राघवेन्द्राय नमः॥ ॐ श्री लक्ष्मीन्रुसिंहाय नमः॥ Dear Anna, I agree with you but I add some more points.We have to look for the 9th house also which is the strongest Trikona along with Lagna and 5th house, their

lords,planets placed there ,aspects,their position in Navamsha chart ,Lagna and Moon's position in Trimshamsha etc. With úrî hari vâyu guru nâma smaraṇa Ramadas Rao.108ar <bona_mente wrote: Dear Ramadas and all, Just sharing ought in continuation of my previous post: 5th H of any house is trinal house- to me that, in general, implies favorable attitude toward parenting, as well as compatibility- and, as we've seen, this world and children still exist, Thank Lord Bad parenting we unfortunately see too often, and from my long-term observations, that happens when the parent's chart and Moon are badly afflicted, fifthL and fifthH involved in this negative pattern as well. However we shouldn't go another extreme /all parents are the same and/or all kids are the same- bcs THEY are not!/ and not recognize the differences in parenting patterns. At the first sight we can see that:watch Lagna and 5th house and you may get a pretty good impression, all other things being eqal, of a parenting style. As Zoran said, for CN Lagna fifth is

Vrishchika, so, just knowing two of this, Motherly, nurturing Lagna, & Intense Vrischika, we may comfortably conclude that Cn Lagna is overly-protective, over-possessive of their children/among other related to L. and 5th; When we ad mutual aspects positions from frrom other, etc...the picture change quickly no matter what the Lagna is. Regards, Anna Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut.

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Supriti,Is the eldest a daughter as per the Saptamsa? 9th Lord Venus is conjoined Moon and Mercury indicating a female. 2nd pregnancy is seen from the 7th which is ruled by Jupiter conjoined Rahu - the eldest Son?Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]supriti108 <supriti108sohamsa Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:55:15 AM Re: selfishness towards children

 

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

Pranaam Kishore ji,

 

You are right. She clings to her first male child, to the point

that she is ready to destroy all of his other relationships. She is

fanatical about him and will go to any extent to keep him all to

herself. He is very protective about her and does not see through

any of her manipulations. Neither does he understand how she has

single-handedly destroyed his married life.

 

Regards

Supriti

 

sohamsa@ .com, "kishore patnaik"

<kishorepatnaik09@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear supriti,

>

> let me be quick on the chart presented by you, this lady though

must have

> had materialistic comforts did not have a happy family life... i

may be

> wrong and let me correct myself later... but her main support was

her first

> male child, who did well in life.

>

> please correct me as i hv done this in a hurry,

>

> Kishore patnaik

>

> On 05 Apr 2007 09:05:24 -0700, supriti108 <supriti108@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

> > Pranaam Kishore ji,

> >

> > This has been my experience too. I am posting a chart of a lady

with

> > Cp Lagna that we can discuss.

> >

> > Regards

> > Supriti

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -

> >

> > Lady A

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > October 1, 1939

> > Time: 14:04:00

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 88 E 12' 00", 22 N 42' 00"

> > Nabadwip, India

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramathi - Bhadrapada

> > Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (41.17% left)

> > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

> > Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (85.16% left)

> > Yoga: Harshana (Su) (53.27% left)

> > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (82.35% left)

> > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)

> > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Pi)

> > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)

> >

> > Sunrise: 5:31:54

> > Sunset: 17:22:13

> > Janma Ghatis: 21.3375

> >

> > Ayanamsa: 23-01-04.90

> > Sidereal Time: 15:03:31

> >

> > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

> >

> > Lagna 12 Cp 14' 32.47" Srav 1 Cp Ar

> > Sun - PiK 14 Vi 15' 08.03" Hast 2 Vi Ta

> > Moon - MK 15 Ar 18' 40.97" Bhar 1 Ar Le

> > Mars - GK 9 Cp 52' 17.24" USha 4 Cp Pi

> > Mercury - BK 21 Vi 01' 31.09" Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > Jupiter ® - PK 10 Pi 16' 11.25" UBha 3 Pi Li

> > Venus - AmK 21 Vi 05' 12.70" Hast 4 Vi Cn

> > Saturn ® - DK 6 Ar 22' 30.20" Aswi 2 Ar Ta

> > Rahu - AK 7 Li 23' 26.32" Swat 1 Li Sg

> > Ketu 7 Ar 23' 26.32" Aswi 3 Ar Ge

> > Maandi 1 Aq 05' 43.62" Dhan 3 Aq Li

> > Gulika 18 Cp 00' 57.79" Srav 3 Cp Ge

> > Uranus ® 28 Ar 29' 17.99" Krit 1 Ar Sg

> > Neptune 0 Vi 35' 22.39" UPha 2 Vi Cp

> > Pluto 9 Cn 39' 06.81" Push 2 Cn Vi

> > Bhava Lagna 21 Cp 55' 39.92" Srav 4 Cp Cn

> > Hora Lagna 29 Ta 57' 10.18" Mrig 2 Ta Vi

> > Ghati Lagna 24 Ge 01' 40.97" Puna 2 Ge Ta

> > Vighati Lagna 24 Li 24' 14.92" Visa 2 Li Ta

> > Varnada Lagna 12 Aq 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Aq Vi

> > Sree Lagna 5 Pi 38' 58.62" UBha 1 Pi Le

> > Pranapada Lagna 24 Aq 45' 13.28" PBha 2 Aq Ta

> > Indu Lagna 15 Vi 18' 40.97" Hast 2 Vi Ta

> > Dhooma 27 Cp 35' 08.03" Dhan 2 Cp Vi

> > Vyatipata 2 Ge 24' 51.97" Mrig 3 Ge Li

> > Parivesha 2 Sg 24' 51.97" Mool 1 Sg Ar

> > Indra Chapa 27 Cn 35' 08.03" Asre 4 Cn Pi

> > Upaketu 14 Le 15' 08.03" PPha 1 Le Le

> > Kaala 24 Vi 07' 33.05" Chit 1 Vi Le

> > Mrityu 3 Sc 55' 06.47" Anu 1 Sc Le

> > Artha Prahara 23 Sc 27' 02.59" Jye 3 Sc Aq

> > Yama Ghantaka 13 Sg 41' 05.59" PSha 1 Sg Le

> > Prana Sphuta 19 Sg 13' 40.13" PSha 2 Sg Vi

> > Deha Sphuta 20 Ta 30' 25.54" Rohi 4 Ta Cn

> > Mrityu Sphuta 20 Ar 21' 52.54" Bhar 3 Ar Li

> > Sookshma TriSphuta 0 Pi 05' 58.21" PBha 4 Pi Cn

> > TriSphuta 15 Sc 34' 11.23" Anu 4 Sc Sc

> > ChatusSphuta 29 Ar 49' 19.25" Krit 1 Ar Sg

> > PanchaSphuta 7 Sc 12' 45.57" Anu 2 Sc Vi

> > V2 12 Ta 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Ta Sg

> > V3 12 Ge 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Ge Ta

> > V4 12 Vi 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Vi Ar

> > V5 12 Li 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Li Ta

> > V6 12 Cp 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Cp Sg

> > V7 12 Aq 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Aq Vi

> > V8 12 Ta 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Ta Sg

> > V9 12 Ge 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Ge Ta

> > V10 12 Vi 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Vi Ar

> > V11 12 Li 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Li Ta

> > V12 12 Cp 14' 32.47" Aswi 1 Cp Sg

> > Kunda 1 Li 37' 49.90" Chit 3 Li Li

> >

> > Rasi

> > +----------- --------- --------- --------- --------- +

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> > | \ / Ma \ / |

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> > | / \ Gk / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / SaR \ 10 / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | AL Mo x Ra |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ Ke / \ / |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / \ / |

> > | \ / \ / Ve |

> > |HL x x Me Su |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

> > | / GL \ / \ |

> > | / \ / \ |

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> >

> > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

> >

> > Ven Ven 1936-10-28 Sun 1940-02-10 Moon 1941-02-04

> > Mars 1942-09-27 Rah 1943-11-21 Jup 1946-11-05

> > Sat 1949-06-22 Merc 1952-08-05 Ket 1955-05-22

> > Sun Sun 1956-07-15 Moon 1956-10-31 Mars 1957-04-29

> > Rah 1957-09-02 Jup 1958-07-23 Sat 1959-05-07

> > Merc 1960-04-13 Ket 1961-02-13 Ven 1961-06-19

> > Moon Moon 1962-06-14 Mars 1963-04-10 Rah 1963-11-06

> > Jup 1965-04-29 Sat 1966-08-22 Merc 1968-03-14

> > Ket 1969-08-06 Ven 1970-03-04 Sun 1971-10-25

> > Mars Mars 1972-04-22 Rah 1972-09-16 Jup 1973-09-29

> > Sat 1974-08-31 Merc 1975-10-04 Ket 1976-09-25

> > Ven 1977-02-19 Sun 1978-04-15 Moon 1978-08-19

> > Rah Rah 1979-03-17 Jup 1981-11-13 Sat 1984-03-26

> > Merc 1987-01-16 Ket 1989-07-22 Ven 1990-08-04

> > Sun 1993-07-19 Moon 1994-06-08 Mars 1995-11-30

> > Jup Jup 1996-12-12 Sat 1999-01-19 Merc 2001-07-19

> > Ket 2003-10-13 Ven 2004-09-13 Sun 2007-05-01

> > Moon 2008-02-13 Mars 2009-06-07 Rah 2010-05-09

> > Sat Sat 2012-09-19 Merc 2015-09-07 Ket 2018-05-03

> > Ven 2019-06-06 Sun 2022-07-20 Moon 2023-06-27

> > Mars 2025-01-17 Rah 2026-02-20 Jup 2028-12-12

> > Merc Merc 2031-06-12 Ket 2033-10-26 Ven 2034-10-18

> > Sun 2037-08-03 Moon 2038-06-05 Mars 2039-10-28

> > Rah 2040-10-19 Jup 2043-04-25 Sat 2045-07-19

> > Ket Ket 2048-03-14 Ven 2048-08-08 Sun 2049-10-02

> > Moon 2050-02-05 Mars 2050-09-03 Rah 2051-01-28

> > Jup 2052-02-10 Sat 2053-01-11 Merc 2054-02-14

> >

> > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

40. com>, "kishorepatnaik"

> >

> > <kishorepatnaik09@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear all,

> > >

> > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha

> > stotram that

> > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of

> > kaliyuga

> > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not

> > caring for

> > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal

pleasures or

> > simply do

> > > not know how to raise a child.

> > >

> > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and

less

> > in

> > > others.

> > >

> > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice

anything for

> > the sake

> > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the

> > modern

> > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

> > >

> > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat

away

> > his own

> > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic

gains.

> > >

> > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these

lagnas-

> > >

> > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th

lord ie

> > mars act

> > > as Yoga karaka

> > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the

> > lagna lord

> > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus

lagna

> > >

> > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with

examples.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> > > 98492 70729

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

 

 

 

 

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sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:

>

> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;

& #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352

; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;

> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;

& #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352

; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351;

& #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;

> Dear Sushil Nair,

> That is a very good question.Abhijit Nakshatra is different from

that of Abhijit Muhurta which occurs two times in 24 Hrs.This comes

under Muhurta.Now let me clear about Abhiji Nakshatra which I was

referring in my previous mail.This Nakshatra is also called as "

VEGAS " by Greeks.I have already mentioned about the longitude of

this Nakshatra which is presided by Lord Brahma.For those who have

born in this Nakshatra, it is mentioned that Ashtottari Dasa can be

used.Any planet located in this Nakshatra will cause Vedha to the

planets posited in Rohini Nakshatra and vice versa.More than the

Graha Chandra here,Surya here will be very auspicious in anybody's

chart.Surya will be more powerful than his Uccha Sthana or his own

house.The native with Surya in this Nakshatra will have highest

longevity as no evil effect can be caused by any other planet as

the native will be under a Kavacha or cover.He/ she will enjoy

maximum power and authority in his own birth country.Similar

> is the position of Guru in this Nakshatra.Eventhough he is

debilitated in this Makara Rashi, any other malefic planets' evil

effects will be nullified and Guru's debilitation will get

cancelled.The native attains a top position in the government, or a

minister etc.Even Ketu here gives good results.Kuja is also

good.Shukra delays marraige but will give stable marriage life.Budha

does not give any effects in this Nakshatra.Shani and Rahu give

malefic results.

> Now I will come to Abhijin( Abhijit ) Muhurta :

> A Muhurta is an auspicious time for the beginning of any new

event.In selecting a Muhurta, Bhrigu Maharshi or Shukracharya says

that a Samvatsara ( a year ),Ritu ( 2 solar months ),Masa ( Half of

a Ritu or a solar month ),Paksha ( a fortnight ), Dina, ( a week

day ),Muhurta ( 2 Ghatikas or 48 minutes of time ) are stronger in

the ascending order.So this means Muhurta is strongest than all.But

there is another factor called Nadika which is 1 Ghatika or 24

minutes of time which is the strongest of all the above in selecting

a Muhurta.In this context,I would like to give some detailed

information about Nadika as explained by Maharshi Shukracharya.

> He clarifies that the most auspicious Muhurta as chosen by Guru

Brihaspaty is Abhijit which removes all the malefic influences of

all the Grahas.But he goes one step ahead and says the Nadika or 1

Ghatika time is the best in all Muhurtas.This information Acharya

Bhrigu gives to Lord Devendra.The reason was Lord Devendra asked

Bhrigu Maharshi why the forests He constructed burnt completely.Then

Acharya Bhrigu says that Devendra selected a Muhurta on a Tuesday

but the Nadika was Dahana which is ruled by Agni Nakshatra

Krittika.So even if the Muhurta is auspicious Nadika also must be

auspicious otherwise all the efforts will be in vain.

> We know that in a day 24 Muhurtas are there and 60 nadikas in

one day counted from Sun rise to next day Sun Rise.These Nadikas are

named after 27 nakshatras staring from Vishakha to Swati,then

Jyotsna, Sandhya and Maitri.So all in all 30 Nadikas repeating again

30 Nadikas constitute 24 Hrs. of time.The Nadikas are none other

than the Avashtas of transitting Chandra.Irrespective of the week

day, the Nadika starts from Vishakha and ends with Maitri in the 2nd

round ie., 60th Nadika.

> Now as an example,in India's Independence chart,the Muhurta

Lagna selected was 00 :00 Hrs. on 14th night of 1947.The muhurta at

that time was Vidhatri ( Brahma ) ,the creator and the Nadika was

ruled by Rohini ( 46th Nadika )which means great gains through

enemies.Its lord is Guru.So even the Muhurta Lagna is afflicted by

nodes Rahu- Ketu,because of the best Nadika and Muhurta, India even

after fighting with its neigbouring country,it got victory.India is

slowly progressing towards a powerful nation again.

> I hope this helps you.

> With

> & #347;r & #299; hari v & #257;yu guru n & #257;ma smara & #7751;a

> Ramadas Rao.

>

>

>

>

>

> astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

> Om krishna guru,

> respected ramadasji .

> namaskrar and pranams.

> Thanks for informativ and valuable post.

> can u tell me abt the persons born in

abhijit janma nakshatra (within the specified degrees) and

differrence between abhijit in day and nite muhurta if some body

borns in that time .I heard from some sourses that indian

indipendence selected in abhijit nite muhurta.

> what effect it will giv other than normal birth or whether we

should take it when deliniating the charts as it will show in

software as differrent nakhasatra other than abhijit.And also dasas

in moon vimshottarry.

> with deep respect.

> your sisya sunil nair .

> om shreem maha laxmai namah.

>

> sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:

> >

> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;

& #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352

; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;

> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368;

& #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352

; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351;

& #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;

> > Dear Kishore Ji,

> > I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna

Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma

Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta

Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and

Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm

hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40' and

280 Degs.54'13 " .The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is

Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna

Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God

fearing,learn occult studies.

> > So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not

analyse one's character but we have to look into other planets

positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear

picture of the character of a person.Even if a person is a good

palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur

Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret

one's character.

> > Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to

you.That is for your analysis.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> >

> > kishore patnaik kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:

> > Sir,

> >

> > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and

being born in a specific lagna is all together different.

> >

> > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this

difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the

basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the

forefront.

> >

> > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the

general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the

general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the

combinations present.

> >

> > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the

argument instead of condemning the same in toto.

> >

> > Hope this clears,

> >

> > kishore patnaik

> >

> > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:

ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥

> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°

à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥

> >

> > Dear Anna,

> > Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a

conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best

Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this

Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other

auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.

> > I hope this helps.

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > 108ar bona_mente@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ramadas,

> > Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded

that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes

from a western Sun-sigh- " popular " astrology, and it has been treated

mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more

credit than this.

> > Regards,

> > Anna

> >

> > Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:

> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯

नमः॥

> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°

à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥

> > Dear Kishore Ji,

> > You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for

their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the

following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara :

> > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952

> > Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.

> > Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east )

> > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59 "

> > Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59 "

> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> >

> > nix_nixen nix_nixen@ wrote:

> > Om Gurave Namah,

> > Dear Kishore,

> > One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula

lagna

> > aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars`

> > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the

Jupiter`s

> > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother.

Now,

> > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give

that

> > discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer

lagna

> > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of

Capricorn

> > this will be the opposite?

> > Warm regards,

> > Tijana

> >

> > sohamsa , " kishore patnaik "

> > kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Tijana,

> > >

> > > You wrote:

> > > Dear Kishore,

> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs

of

> > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.

> > >

> > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.

> > >

> > > You wrote:

> > >

> > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming

> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general

attitude

> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding

this?

> > >

> > > My comments:

> > >

> > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer,

capri

> > and tula

> > > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery,

earthy and

> > airy.

> > > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the

majority

> > belong to

> > > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer

> > lagnas.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Tijana

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > >

> > > Kishore patnaik

> > >

> > >

> > > Om Gurave Namah

> > > > Dear Kishore,

> > > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs

of

> > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord

> > becoming

> > > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general

attitude

> > > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding

this?

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > Tijana

> > > >

> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%

> > 40>, " kishorepatnaik "

> > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear all,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi

aparatha

> > > > stotram that

> > > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the

effect of

> > > > kaliyuga

> > > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their

children, not

> > > > caring for

> > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal

pleasures

> > or

> > > > simply do

> > > > > not know how to raise a child.

> > > > >

> > > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people

and less

> > > > in

> > > > > others.

> > > > >

> > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice

anything

> > for

> > > > the sake

> > > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from

the

> > > > modern

> > > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

> > > > >

> > > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can

eat

> > away

> > > > his own

> > > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic

> > gains.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in

these

> > lagnas-

> > > > >

> > > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th

lord

> > ie

> > > > mars act

> > > > > as Yoga karaka

> > > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate

this, the

> > > > lagna lord

> > > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus

lagna

> > > > >

> > > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with

> > examples.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Kishore patnaik

> > > > >

> > > > > 98492 70729

> > > > >

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|| Jaga Jagannatha ||

 

Gurujis Namaskar,

 

This is the birth detail of Sri. K.S.Krishnamurthy ,the founder of

KP system.

 

November 1, 1908 @ 12:11 PM Thiruvaiyaru, Tamil Nadu.

( 79 E 00 ) ( 10 N 58 ) ??.

 

His Lagna falls 10 or 11 degree in Makaram. Chandra also at 11 deg

49 mts in Makaram.

 

So his Lagna and Moon falls in Abhijit Nakshathiram. ??

 

 

Thanks to Guru Ramadas rao ji.

 

sarasalai siva

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Dear Ramdas Rao ji,

Thanks for this excellent explanation.

Can you please guide how to obtain Abhijit muhurath with nadika in a partcicular day, as the same doesnt show up on J Hora.

 

Many thanks

Sharat

 

 

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Ramadas Rao

sohamsa

Monday, April 09, 2007 5:31 AM

Re: Re: selfishness towards children

 

 

 

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ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥

Dear Sushil Nair,

That is a very good question.Abhijit Nakshatra is different from that of Abhijit Muhurta which occurs two times in 24 Hrs.This comes under Muhurta.Now let me clear about Abhiji Nakshatra which I was referring in my previous mail.This Nakshatra is also called as " VEGAS " by Greeks.I have already mentioned about the longitude of this Nakshatra which is presided by Lord Brahma.For those who have born in this Nakshatra, it is mentioned that Ashtottari Dasa can be used.Any planet located in this Nakshatra will cause Vedha to the planets posited in Rohini Nakshatra and vice versa.More than the Graha Chandra here,Surya here will be very auspicious in anybody's chart.Surya will be more powerful than his Uccha Sthana or his own house.The native with Surya in this Nakshatra will have highest longevity as no evil effect can be caused by any other planet as the native will be under a Kavacha or cover.He/ she will enjoy maximum power and authority in his own birth country.Similar is the position of Guru in this Nakshatra.Eventhough he is debilitated in this Makara Rashi, any other malefic planets' evil effects will be nullified and Guru's debilitation will get cancelled.The native attains a top position in the government, or a minister etc.Even Ketu here gives good results.Kuja is also good.Shukra delays marraige but will give stable marriage life.Budha does not give any effects in this Nakshatra.Shani and Rahu give malefic results.

Now I will come to Abhijin( Abhijit ) Muhurta :

A Muhurta is an auspicious time for the beginning of any new event.In selecting a Muhurta, Bhrigu Maharshi or Shukracharya says that a Samvatsara ( a year ),Ritu ( 2 solar months ),Masa ( Half of a Ritu or a solar month ),Paksha ( a fortnight ), Dina, ( a week day ),Muhurta ( 2 Ghatikas or 48 minutes of time ) are stronger in the ascending order.So this means Muhurta is strongest than all.But there is another factor called Nadika which is 1 Ghatika or 24 minutes of time which is the stronges t of all the above in selecting a Muhurta.In this context,I would like to give some detailed information about Nadika as explained by Maharshi Shukracharya.

He clarifies that the most auspicious Muhurta as chosen by Guru Brihaspaty is Abhijit which removes all the malefic influences of all the Grahas.But he goes one step ahead and says the Nadika or 1 Ghatika time is the best in all Muhurtas.This information Acharya Bhrigu gives to Lord Devendra.The reason was Lord Devendra asked Bhrigu Maharshi why the forests He constructed burnt completely.Then Acharya Bhrigu says that Devendra selected a Muhurta on a Tuesday but the Nadika was Dahana which is ruled by Agni Nakshatra Krittika.So even if the Muhurta is auspicious Nadika also must be auspicious otherwise all the efforts will be in vain.

We know that in a day 24 Muhurtas are there and 60 nadikas in one day counted from Sun rise to next day Sun Rise.These Nadikas are named after 27 nakshatras staring from Vishakha to Swati,then Jyotsna, Sandhya and Maitri.So all in all 30 Nadikas repeating again 30 Nadikas constitute 24 Hrs. of time.The Nadikas are none other than the Avashtas of transitting Chandra.Irrespective of the week day, the Nadika starts from Vishakha and ends with Maitri in the 2nd round ie., 60th Nadika.

Now as an example,in India's Independence chart,the Muhurta Lagna selected was 00 :00 Hrs. on 14th night of 1947.The muhurta at that time was Vidhatri ( Brahma ) ,the creator and the Nadika was ruled by Rohini ( 46th Nadika )which means great gains through enemies.Its lord is Guru.So even the Muhurta Lagna is afflicted by nodes Rahu- Ketu,because of the best Nadika and Muhurta, India even after fighting with its neigbouring country,it got victory.India is slowly progressing towards a powerful nation again.

I hope this helps you.

With

Å›rÄ« hari vÄyu guru nÄma smaraṇa

Ramadas Rao.

 

 

 

astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

 

Om krishna guru,

respected ramadasji .

namaskra r and pranams.

Thanks for informativ and valuable post.

can u tell me abt the persons born in abhijit janma nakshatra (within the specified degrees) and differrence between abhijit in day and nite muhurta if some body borns in that time .I heard from some sourses that indian indipendence selected in abhijit nite muhurta.

what effect it will giv other than normal birth or whether we should take it when deliniating the charts as it will show in software as differrent nakhasatra other than abhijit.And also dasas in moon vimshottarry.

with deep respect.

your sisya sunil nair .

om shreem maha laxmai namah.

sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear Kishore Ji,> I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40' and 280 Degs.54'13".The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God fearing,learn occult studies.> So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not analyse one's character but we have to look into other planets positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear picture of the character of a person.Even if a person is a good palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret one's character.> Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to you.That is for your analysis.> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao.> > > > kishore patnaik kishorepatnaik09 wrote:> Sir, > > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. > > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. > > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. > > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. > > Hope this clears, > > kishore patnaik > > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote: ॠशà¥Âरी राघवेनà¥Âदà¥Âराय नमः॥> ॠशà¥Âरी लकà¥Âषà¥Âमीनà¥Âरà¥Âसिंहाय नमः॥> > Dear Anna,> Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.> I hope this helps. > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> Ramadas Rao. > > 108ar bona_mente wrote:> > Dear Ramadas,> Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh-"popular" astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this.> Regards,> Anna> > Ramadas Rao ramadasrao wrote:> ॠशà¥Âरी राघवेनà¥Âदà¥Âराय नमः॥> ॠशà¥Âरी लकà¥Âषà¥Âमीनà¥Âरà¥Âसिंहाय नमः॥> Dear Kishore Ji,> You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952> Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.> Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east ) > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59"> Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59"> With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > Ramadas Rao.> > > nix_nixen nix_nixen wrote:> Om Gurave Namah,> Dear Kishore,> One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna > aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that > discipline problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn > this will be the opposite? > Warm regards,> Tijana > > sohamsa , "kishore patnaik" > kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:> >> > Dear Tijana,> > > > You wrote:> > Dear Kishore,> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > > > You wrote:> > > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > > > My comments:> > > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri > and tula> > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and > airy.> > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority > belong to> > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer > lagnas.> > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > Tijana> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > Dear Kishore,> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord > becoming> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > >> > > sohamsa <sohamsa%> 40>, "kishorepatnaik"> > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear all,> > > >> > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > > stotram that> > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of> > > kaliyuga> > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > > caring for > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures > or> > > simply do> > > > not know how to raise a child.> > > >> > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less> > > in> > > > others.> > > > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything > for> > > the sake> > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the> > > modern> > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > > >> > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat > away> > > his own> > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic > gains.> > > > > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these > lagnas-> > > >> > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord > ie> > > mars act> > > > as Yoga karaka> > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > > lagna lord> > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna> > > >> > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with > examples.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > Kishore patnaik> > > >> > > > 98492 70729> > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > Don't pick lemons.> See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers>

 

 

 

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Dear Michal,

 

She had 2 miscarriages. So the eldest is male (2nd pregnancy) and

the youngest is a female (4th pregnancy).

 

Regards

Supriti

 

sohamsa , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

wrote:

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Supriti,

>

> Is the eldest a daughter as per the Saptamsa? 9th Lord Venus is

conjoined Moon and Mercury indicating a female. 2nd pregnancy is

seen from the 7th which is ruled by Jupiter conjoined Rahu - the

eldest Son?

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

>

> supriti108 <supriti108

> sohamsa

> Sunday, April 8, 2007 9:55:15 AM

> Re: selfishness towards children

>

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>

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>

|OM GURAVE NAMAH|

>

> Pranaam Kishore ji,

>

>

>

> You are right. She clings to her first male child, to the point

>

> that she is ready to destroy all of his other relationships. She

is

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> fanatical about him and will go to any extent to keep him all to

>

> herself. He is very protective about her and does not see through

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> any of her manipulations. Neither does he understand how she has

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> single-handedly destroyed his married life.

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>

>

> Regards

>

> Supriti

>

>

>

> sohamsa@ .com, " kishore patnaik "

>

> <kishorepatnaik09@ ...> wrote:

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> >

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> > Dear supriti,

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> >

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> > let me be quick on the chart presented by you, this lady though

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> must have

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> > had materialistic comforts did not have a happy family life... i

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> may be

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> > wrong and let me correct myself later... but her main support was

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> her first

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> > male child, who did well in life.

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> >

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> > please correct me as i hv done this in a hurry,

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> > Kishore patnaik

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> >

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> > On 05 Apr 2007 09:05:24 -0700, supriti108 <supriti108@ ...> wrote:

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> > >

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> > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH|

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> > > Pranaam Kishore ji,

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> > >

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> > > This has been my experience too. I am posting a chart of a lady

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> with

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> > > Cp Lagna that we can discuss.

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> > > Regards

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> > > Supriti

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> > > Lady A

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> > > Natal Chart

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> > > October 1, 1939

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> > > Time: 14:04:00

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> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

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> > > Place: 88 E 12' 00 " , 22 N 42' 00 "

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> > > Nabadwip, India

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> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

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> > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramathi - Bhadrapada

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> > > Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (41.17% left)

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> > > Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su)

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> > > Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (85.16% left)

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> > > Yoga: Harshana (Su) (53.27% left)

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> > > Karana: Vishti (Sa) (82.35% left)

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> > > Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Ar)

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> > > Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Pi)

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> > > Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn)

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> > > Sunrise: 5:31:54

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> > > Sunset: 17:22:13

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> > > Janma Ghatis: 21.3375

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> > > Ayanamsa: 23-01-04.90

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> > > Sidereal Time: 15:03:31

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> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

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> > > Lagna 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Srav 1 Cp Ar

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> > > Sun - PiK 14 Vi 15' 08.03 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

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> > > Moon - MK 15 Ar 18' 40.97 " Bhar 1 Ar Le

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> > > Mars - GK 9 Cp 52' 17.24 " USha 4 Cp Pi

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> > > Mercury - BK 21 Vi 01' 31.09 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

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> > > Jupiter ® - PK 10 Pi 16' 11.25 " UBha 3 Pi Li

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> > > Venus - AmK 21 Vi 05' 12.70 " Hast 4 Vi Cn

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> > > Saturn ® - DK 6 Ar 22' 30.20 " Aswi 2 Ar Ta

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> > > Rahu - AK 7 Li 23' 26.32 " Swat 1 Li Sg

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> > > Ketu 7 Ar 23' 26.32 " Aswi 3 Ar Ge

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> > > Maandi 1 Aq 05' 43.62 " Dhan 3 Aq Li

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> > > Gulika 18 Cp 00' 57.79 " Srav 3 Cp Ge

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> > > Uranus ® 28 Ar 29' 17.99 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

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> > > Neptune 0 Vi 35' 22.39 " UPha 2 Vi Cp

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> > > Pluto 9 Cn 39' 06.81 " Push 2 Cn Vi

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> > > Bhava Lagna 21 Cp 55' 39.92 " Srav 4 Cp Cn

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> > > Hora Lagna 29 Ta 57' 10.18 " Mrig 2 Ta Vi

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> > > Ghati Lagna 24 Ge 01' 40.97 " Puna 2 Ge Ta

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> > > Vighati Lagna 24 Li 24' 14.92 " Visa 2 Li Ta

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> > > Varnada Lagna 12 Aq 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Aq Vi

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> > > Sree Lagna 5 Pi 38' 58.62 " UBha 1 Pi Le

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> > > Pranapada Lagna 24 Aq 45' 13.28 " PBha 2 Aq Ta

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> > > Indu Lagna 15 Vi 18' 40.97 " Hast 2 Vi Ta

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> > > Dhooma 27 Cp 35' 08.03 " Dhan 2 Cp Vi

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> > > Vyatipata 2 Ge 24' 51.97 " Mrig 3 Ge Li

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> > > Parivesha 2 Sg 24' 51.97 " Mool 1 Sg Ar

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> > > Indra Chapa 27 Cn 35' 08.03 " Asre 4 Cn Pi

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> > > Upaketu 14 Le 15' 08.03 " PPha 1 Le Le

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> > > Kaala 24 Vi 07' 33.05 " Chit 1 Vi Le

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> > > Mrityu 3 Sc 55' 06.47 " Anu 1 Sc Le

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> > > Artha Prahara 23 Sc 27' 02.59 " Jye 3 Sc Aq

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> > > Yama Ghantaka 13 Sg 41' 05.59 " PSha 1 Sg Le

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> > > Prana Sphuta 19 Sg 13' 40.13 " PSha 2 Sg Vi

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> > > Deha Sphuta 20 Ta 30' 25.54 " Rohi 4 Ta Cn

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> > > Mrityu Sphuta 20 Ar 21' 52.54 " Bhar 3 Ar Li

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> > > Sookshma TriSphuta 0 Pi 05' 58.21 " PBha 4 Pi Cn

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> > > TriSphuta 15 Sc 34' 11.23 " Anu 4 Sc Sc

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> > > ChatusSphuta 29 Ar 49' 19.25 " Krit 1 Ar Sg

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> > > PanchaSphuta 7 Sc 12' 45.57 " Anu 2 Sc Vi

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> > > V2 12 Ta 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ta Sg

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> > > V3 12 Ge 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ge Ta

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> > > V4 12 Vi 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Vi Ar

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> > > V5 12 Li 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Li Ta

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> > > V6 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Cp Sg

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> > > V7 12 Aq 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Aq Vi

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> > > V8 12 Ta 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ta Sg

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> > > V9 12 Ge 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Ge Ta

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> > > V10 12 Vi 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Vi Ar

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> > > V11 12 Li 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Li Ta

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> > > V12 12 Cp 14' 32.47 " Aswi 1 Cp Sg

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> > > Kunda 1 Li 37' 49.90 " Chit 3 Li Li

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> > > sohamsa@ .com <sohamsa%

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> 40. com>, " kishorepatnaik "

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> > >

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> > > <kishorepatnaik09@ > wrote:

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> > > >

>

> > > > Dear all,

>

> > > >

>

> > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha

>

> > > stotram that

>

> > > > there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect

of

>

> > > kaliyuga

>

> > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children,

not

>

> > > caring for

>

> > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal

>

> pleasures or

>

> > > simply do

>

> > > > not know how to raise a child.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and

>

> less

>

> > > in

>

> > > > others.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice

>

> anything for

>

> > > the sake

>

> > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the

>

> > > modern

>

> > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat

>

> away

>

> > > his own

>

> > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic

>

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Then the choice of words would have been different. However, matter not of

astrological interest. So let it be.

 

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On 06 Apr 2007 11:10:47 -0700, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46

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> That is because I treat everybody else as having more knowledge than me,

> in vedic astrology.

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> Chandrashekhar.

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> > Namaste Sri Chandrashekharji

> >

> > " Of course this is my personal opinion and others more knowledgeable

> > than me

> > might have a different opinion. "

> >

> > Why can't people less knowledgeable than you have a different opinion?

> And

> > comparison based on knowledge would be a contradiction.

> >

> > Just a thought.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

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ॐ ॐ श्री राघवेन्द्राय नमः॥ श्री लक्ष्मीन्रुसिंहाय नमः॥ Dear Sarasalai Siva, That is a fantastic Horoscope of Late Shri K.P.Krishna Murty, founder of K.P.System of Astrology.He was born during Abhijin Muhurtam, his Lagna

and Chandra are in Abhijit Nakshatra.Everybody can see how he became famous and even after his expiry from this world, still people follow his unique Astrology system. Thanks Siva for giving his birth data. With śrī hari vāyu guru nāma smaraṇa Ramadas Rao.sarasalai_siva <sarasalai_siva wrote: sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao wrote:>> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> Dear Sushil Nair,> That is

a very good question.Abhijit Nakshatra is different from that of Abhijit Muhurta which occurs two times in 24 Hrs.This comes under Muhurta.Now let me clear about Abhiji Nakshatra which I was referring in my previous mail.This Nakshatra is also called as " VEGAS " by Greeks.I have already mentioned about the longitude of this Nakshatra which is presided by Lord Brahma.For those who have born in this Nakshatra, it is mentioned that Ashtottari Dasa can be used.Any planet located in this Nakshatra will cause Vedha to the planets posited in Rohini Nakshatra and vice versa.More than the Graha Chandra here,Surya here will be very auspicious in anybody's chart.Surya will be more powerful than his Uccha Sthana or his own house.The native with Surya in this Nakshatra will have highest longevity as no evil effect can be caused by any other planet as the native will be under a Kavacha or cover.He/ she will enjoy maximum power and

authority in his own birth country.Similar> is the position of Guru in this Nakshatra.Eventhough he is debilitated in this Makara Rashi, any other malefic planets' evil effects will be nullified and Guru's debilitation will get cancelled.The native attains a top position in the government, or a minister etc.Even Ketu here gives good results.Kuja is also good.Shukra delays marraige but will give stable marriage life.Budha does not give any effects in this Nakshatra.Shani and Rahu give malefic results.> Now I will come to Abhijin( Abhijit ) Muhurta :> A Muhurta is an auspicious time for the beginning of any new event.In selecting a Muhurta, Bhrigu Maharshi or Shukracharya says that a Samvatsara ( a year ),Ritu ( 2 solar months ),Masa ( Half of a Ritu or a solar month ),Paksha ( a fortnight ), Dina, ( a week day ),Muhurta ( 2 Ghatikas or 48 minutes of time ) are stronger in the ascending order.So this

means Muhurta is strongest than all.But there is another factor called Nadika which is 1 Ghatika or 24 minutes of time which is the strongest of all the above in selecting a Muhurta.In this context,I would like to give some detailed information about Nadika as explained by Maharshi Shukracharya.> He clarifies that the most auspicious Muhurta as chosen by Guru Brihaspaty is Abhijit which removes all the malefic influences of all the Grahas.But he goes one step ahead and says the Nadika or 1 Ghatika time is the best in all Muhurtas.This information Acharya Bhrigu gives to Lord Devendra.The reason was Lord Devendra asked Bhrigu Maharshi why the forests He constructed burnt completely.Then Acharya Bhrigu says that Devendra selected a Muhurta on a Tuesday but the Nadika was Dahana which is ruled by Agni Nakshatra Krittika.So even if the Muhurta is auspicious Nadika also must be auspicious otherwise all the efforts will

be in vain.> We know that in a day 24 Muhurtas are there and 60 nadikas in one day counted from Sun rise to next day Sun Rise.These Nadikas are named after 27 nakshatras staring from Vishakha to Swati,then Jyotsna, Sandhya and Maitri.So all in all 30 Nadikas repeating again 30 Nadikas constitute 24 Hrs. of time.The Nadikas are none other than the Avashtas of transitting Chandra.Irrespective of the week day, the Nadika starts from Vishakha and ends with Maitri in the 2nd round ie., 60th Nadika.> Now as an example,in India's Independence chart,the Muhurta Lagna selected was 00 :00 Hrs. on 14th night of 1947.The muhurta at that time was Vidhatri ( Brahma ) ,the creator and the Nadika was ruled by Rohini ( 46th Nadika )which means great gains through enemies.Its lord is Guru.So even the Muhurta Lagna is afflicted by nodes Rahu- Ketu,because of the best Nadika and Muhurta, India even after fighting with its

neigbouring country,it got victory.India is slowly progressing towards a powerful nation again.> I hope this helps you.> With > & #347;r & #299; hari v & #257;yu guru n & #257;ma smara & #7751;a> Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala wrote:> Om krishna guru,> respected ramadasji .> namaskrar and pranams.> Thanks for informativ and valuable post.> can u tell me abt the persons born in abhijit janma nakshatra (within the specified degrees) and differrence between abhijit in day and nite muhurta if some body borns in that time .I heard from some sourses that indian indipendence selected in abhijit nite muhurta.> what effect it will giv other than normal birth or whether we should take it when deliniating the charts as it will show in software as differrent nakhasatra other than

abhijit.And also dasas in moon vimshottarry.> with deep respect.> your sisya sunil nair .> om shreem maha laxmai namah.> > sohamsa , Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao@> wrote:> >> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2352; & #2366; & #2328; & #2357; & #2375; & #2344; & #2381; & #2342; & #2381; & #2352; & #2366; & #2351; & #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> > & #2384; & #2358; & #2381; & #2352; & #2368; & #2354; & #2325; & #2381; & #2359; & #2381; & #2350; & #2368; & #2344; & #2381; & #2352; & #2369; & #2360; & #2367; & #2306; & #2361; & #2366; & #2351;

& #2344; & #2350; & #2307; & #2405;> > Dear Kishore Ji,> > I never discouraged you.Also I gave some examples of Lagna Nakshatra which is different from Chandra's Nakshatra or Janma Nakshatra.Makara Lagna has Uttarashada,Shravana and Dhanishta Nakshatras and I wrote to you about the birth in Abhijit and Shravana Lagna Nakshatras will make a person hard working, warm hearted, loves his family etc.Abhijit falls between 276 Degs.40' and 280 Degs.54'13".The presiding deity of this special Nakshatra is Lord Brahma and the persons born in this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra, they come up very fast in the life,they are highly God fearing,learn occult studies.> > So what I meant to say is that just by Lagna only we can not analyse one's character but we have to look into other planets positions in Rashi and Navamsha charts and that will give us a clear picture of the

character of a person.Even if a person is a good palmist,then by looking into Pitru Rekha, Matru Rekha and Ayur Rekhas ( Lines of life,head and heart ),one can easily interpret one's character.> > Well, I am not going to analyse the chart which I gave to you.That is for your analysis.> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > > > kishore patnaik kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:> > Sir, > > > > Having a nakshatra is one thing- which is related to moon and being born in a specific lagna is all together different. > > > > In fact, it is Parasara who has tried to demarcate this difference and has brought the science of reading a chart on the basis of zodiac, rather than on the basis of the nakshatras, to the forefront. > > > > there is no good or bad zodiac signs. We are discussing the

general principles and as I have replied to sri chandrasekhar, the general principles can take a u turn in some charts thanks to the combinations present. > > > > In any case, please post your ideas, in favor of or against the argument instead of condemning the same in toto. > > > > Hope this clears, > > > > kishore patnaik > > > > On 07 Apr 2007 00:50:37 -0700, Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote: ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> > > > Dear Anna,> > Thanks for your reply.So it means we can not come to a conclusion by looking into few charts only.In Makara Rashi, the best Nakshatra Abhijit comes.So how when a person born with this Nakshatra as Lagna Nakshatra can deprive of his children ? The other

auspicious Nakshatra is Shravana whose Lord is Lord Vishnu Himself.> > I hope this helps. > > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana,> > Ramadas Rao. > > > > 108ar bona_mente@ wrote:> > > > Dear Ramadas,> > Thank you for your patience- Some have to be repeatedly reminded that one sign astrology is - onesided=wrong. I know it all comes from a western Sun-sigh-"popular" astrology, and it has been treated mostly as fun- not even western astrologer would give this more credit than this.> > Regards,> > Anna> > > > Ramadas Rao ramadasrao@ wrote:> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ राघवेनà¥à¤¦à¥à¤°à¤¾à¤¯ नमः॥> > ॠशà¥à¤°à¥€ लकà¥à¤·à¥à¤®à¥€à¤¨à¥à¤°à¥à¤¸à¤¿à¤‚हाय नमः॥> > Dear Kishore Ji,> > You said Makara Lagna natives will sell their children also for their

selfishness.Now can you please check the character of the following native ( Male ) whose Lagna is Makara : > > Date of Birth : 23/03/1952> > Time of Birth : 03:35:39 Hrs.> > Time Zone : 5-30 Hrs.from GMT ( east ) > > Lat.: 12 Degs.N 58'59"> > Long.: 74 Degs.E 46'59"> > With Shri Hari Vaayu Guru Naama Smarana, > > Ramadas Rao.> > > > > > nix_nixen nix_nixen@ wrote:> > Om Gurave Namah,> > Dear Kishore,> > One more thing came to my mind. I think we should leave Tula lagna > > aside for now…Cancer and Capricorn are also the signs of Mars` > > debilitation/exaltation which stands in opposition to the Jupiter`s > > situation. Jupiter-Mars yoga will give blessing of the Mother. Now, > > in the case of the Cancer, debilitation of the Mars will give that > > discipline

problem that was mentioned and that`s way the Cancer lagna > > mothers will be so tender and caring, and in the case of Capricorn > > this will be the opposite? > > Warm regards,> > Tijana > > > > sohamsa , "kishore patnaik" > > kishorepatnaik09@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Tijana,> > > > > > You wrote:> > > Dear Kishore,> > > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation.> > > > > > My comments: Wonderful observation. This has escaped my notice.> > > > > > You wrote:> > > > > > If the fact that 5th lord becoming> > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general

attitude > > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this?> > > > > > My comments:> > > > > > We need to explore. You will notice that all three, cancer, capri > > and tula> > > are chara lagnas but they have different natures-watery, earthy and > > airy.> > > Those who come to me with problems of childlessness, the majority > > belong to> > > capri and tula lagnas. Only very rarely they belong to cancer > > lagnas.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards,> > > Tijana> > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > Kishore patnaik> > > > > > > > > Om Gurave Namah> > > > Dear Kishore,> >

> > Certainly it is not the coincidence that these two are signs of > > > > Jupiter`s exaltation/debilitation. If the fact that 5th lord > > becoming> > > > yoga karaka for some lagnas has to do with their general attitude> > > > towards children, what can we say about Tula lagna regarding this? > > > > Warm regards,> > > > Tijana> > > >> > > > sohamsa <sohamsa%> > 40>, "kishorepatnaik"> > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear all,> > > > >> > > > > It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha > > > > stotram that> > > > > there are bad sons but not

bad mothers. But it is the effect of> > > > kaliyuga> > > > > that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not> > > > caring for > > > > > them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures > > or> > > > simply do> > > > > not know how to raise a child.> > > > >> > > > > However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less> > > > in> > > > > others.> > > > > > > > > > For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything > > for> > > > the sake> > > > > of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the> > > > modern> > > > > politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda. > > > >

>> > > > > On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat > > away> > > > his own> > > > > children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic > > gains.> > > > > > > > > > It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these > > lagnas-> > > > >> > > > > a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord > > ie> > > > mars act> > > > > as Yoga karaka> > > > > b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the> > > > lagna lord> > > > > saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna> > > > >> > > > > I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with > >

examples.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Kishore patnaik> > > > >> > > > > 98492 70729> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't pick lemons.> > See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what

you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers> >> > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers|| Jaga Jagannatha ||Gurujis Namaskar,This is the birth detail of Sri. K.S.Krishnamurthy ,the founder of KP system.November 1, 1908 @ 12:11 PM Thiruvaiyaru, Tamil Nadu.( 79 E 00 ) ( 10 N 58 ) ??.His Lagna falls 10 or 11 degree in Makaram. Chandra also at 11 deg49 mts in Makaram.So his Lagna and Moon falls in Abhijit Nakshathiram. ??Thanks to Guru

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Dear Chandrashekhar, Barat,

I remember many years ago I also asked /myself/ that Q, and it appeared 'false

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Bharat - Hindu Astrology <astrologyhindu wrote:

Then the choice of words would have been different. However, matter

not of

astrological interest. So let it be.

 

Thanks and Regards

Bharat

 

On 06 Apr 2007 11:10:47 -0700, Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46

wrote:

>

> Dear Bharat,

>

> That is because I treat everybody else as having more knowledge than me,

> in vedic astrology.

>

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

> Bharat - Hindu Astrology wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sri Chandrashekharji

> >

> > " Of course this is my personal opinion and others more knowledgeable

> > than me

> > might have a different opinion. "

> >

> > Why can't people less knowledgeable than you have a different opinion?

> And

> > comparison based on knowledge would be a contradiction.

> >

> > Just a thought.

> >

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Bharat

> >

> >

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Dear wendy,

 

thank you for letting the things be but still i can not see how posting of

an academic question can be spamming, when all these groups meant for just

that! My interest is to reach as many people as possible and get as many

diversified opinions and various charts as possible. For eg., if i have

posted in vedic astrology and not here,certainly, i would not have heard

from you, right? And I dont know whether you know what is happening in

Sohamsa where there are not less than 50 mails are there.

 

I am against spamming too and in my opinion, spamming means litter the same

group with unwarranted querries or messages(repeatedly if need be) so as to

attract attention which is otherwise being denied to one, even at the cost

of causing irritation and inconvenience to others. I hope you agree with

me.

 

as per the chart, please let me know the reason for staying away from the

children.

 

Kiishore patnaik

 

On 09 Apr 2007 23:02:53 -0700, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Kishore,

>

> //I can not see what is wrong if i have posted this message to 12(or more

> groups) simultaneously. I am a member of all these groups and what i have

> posted has to do with academic discussion of astrology. please delete the

> message from your group if it is against your group principles.//

>

> It's called spamming and is considered bad etiquette. I made it quite

> clear

> that I normally do not respond under such circumstances in the hope that

> members would desist from this practice. However, as the subject matter

> interested me, I decided to respond in this instance. The point is Mr.

> Patnaik that whilst you may be a member of all these groups others may not

> be and are therefore unable to take part in (or benefit in any way) from

> the

> other discussions.

>

> //if you fix lagna, the fifth house is also fixed.//

>

> Of course it is! However, in regards to children, this speaks more of the

> innate nature of children themselves...in the same way that Lagna

> indicates

> the innate nature of the native. As I'm sure you know, even the worst

> natured person can be a devoted parent whilst the sweetest natured person

> can abandon their children under the right circumstances. I reiterate;

> abandonment of children (irrespective of lagna) is determined by

> afflictions

> to 5th and or karaka, Jupiter.

>

> I have an example here of a native with Jupiter in Pisces lagna who has

> suffered separation from children. Based purely on this, could you offer

> any

> explanation?

>

> I will give the data so you can view the chart proper.

>

> Male

> 28 Jan 1964 (10:50am)

> Melbourne, Australia

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

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> jyotish-vidya

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> " kishore patnaik "

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> <jyotish-vidya <jyotish-vidya%40>>

> Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:42 PM

> Re: selfishness towards children

>

> Dear wendy,

>

> I can not see what is wrong if i have posted this message to 12(or more

> groups) simultaneously. I am a member of all these groups and what i have

> posted has to do with academic discussion of astrology. please delete the

> message from your group if it is against your group principles.

>

> now, coming to the question, no doubt 5th house is what is to be looked

> into to look at children but here, we are discussing the basic nature of a

> native depending upon particular lagna. if you fix lagna, the fifth house

> is also fixed.

>

> no doubt, the planetary combinations and janma rasi, divisional charts etc

> will change the person to a large extent. but surely lagna has its own

> role

> to play.

>

> Kishore patnaik

>

>

>

 

 

 

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Mr Kishore

 

That is pretty good analysis and new dimension abt Karka and Makara Lagna

parents.

 

The Karka lagna people also have heartburn and anxieties about their children

whereas Makara Lagna people benefit and derive enjoyment from their progeny due

to malefic and benefic lordship of the 5th house.respectively.

 

savithri

 

Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote:

Dear Kishore,

 

I hope you do not mind, but this is generalization at its extreme. If I

remember right, and I could be wrong as age does not spare anyone,

Indira Gandhi also had cancer lagna and there were all sorts of rumors

about Sanjay Gandhi's accident. Is there any large scale data to support

this theory, like charts of mothers who have abandoned their children

and who reared even their illegitimate children having Capricorn and

Cancer lagnas respectively? Otherwise this must remain a speculation at

its best.

 

Of course this is my personal opinion and others more knowledgeable than

me might have a different opinion.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

kishore patnaik wrote:

>

> Dear all,

>

> It is Sankaracarya who said in his all famous Devi aparatha stotram that

> there are bad sons but not bad mothers. But it is the effect of kaliyuga

> that we find mothers and fathers abandoning their children, not caring for

> them in their eternal search for more and more carnal pleasures or

> simply do

> not know how to raise a child.

>

> However, these tendencies are more in some lagna people and less in

> others.

>

> For eg, even the most selfish cancerians can sacrifice anything for

> the sake

> of their children Two fantastic examples can be seen from the modern

> politics- Sonia gandhi and Deve gowda.

>

> On the other hand, capricorn, the sign of water snake can eat away his own

> children to quench their own hunger for more materialistic gains.

>

> It is interesting to see how the yoga karakas work in these lagnas-

>

> a) Cancerian gives to children To compensate this, the 5th lord ie

> mars act

> as Yoga karaka

> b) Capricorn takes from their children. To compensate this, the lagna lord

> saturn has to act as Yoga karaka to the 5th lagna ie Tarus lagna

>

> I appreciate if the group can kindly discuss on these with examples.

>

> regards,

>

> Kishore patnaik

>

> 98492 70729

>

>

[Guest guest]

sairaman good morning 6 36 am 20th april 2007

 

 

what y have said is perfect no doubt each people can realise their effcts

 

when malefics rules 5th and 9th house or occupying 5th and 9th house

 

 

more particularly slow moving that is a horoscope of trouble and unhapiness

 

 

if y have lot of money if yr stomatch do not digest food giving lot of trouble

and yr children are robost and resist and not terms with y there will be no

hapiness

 

y cannot eat y have to worry through yr children through yr life who give

disgrace ato yr family

when malefic rules and occupies 5th and 9th or 4th and 12th what is life with

large amount of money with y

 

nowadays people travel lot for foreign country 12th house operation buy lot of

property and materials car etc 4th house earn lot ofmoney 2nd house these are

the 12th 8th and 10th house of houses of children ie 5th

 

now y can find less children or no children either one or two and that too

resists parents throught the life no courtesy no respect tro elders no love

passion however childredn are taken care very well than those days mostly it is

like this

 

very rare families children parents get along well in good terms

 

 

 

thank y sir

 

 

 

kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

>

>

> The Karka lagna people also have heartburn and anxieties about their

> children whereas Makara Lagna people benefit and derive enjoyment from their

> progeny due to malefic and benefic lordship of the 5th house.respectively.

>

>

> savithri

>

 

dear savithri,

 

you have put it very well. this was exactly what i have noticed. please let

me know if you have any charts.

 

Kishore patnaik

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