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Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

 

You have asked :

 

Framaan no.6

 

Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni karta hai shukra se

 

How does it manifest the results in a kundali?

 

**********************

 

In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka jhagara'. Moon

represents the mother and venus the wife, and that there is a

tarditional hostility between the two. If the two are

together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki tarah ka prabhav hoga ya

aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat keechar ki tarah hogi'

 

with naman to all gurujan,

 

bhuwan

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Bhuwanji,

 

The definition you give is already given

in ‘chandra-shukra yuti’

page. There are many instances where the fight between ‘saas and bahu’ is not

there.

 

How should we interpret the role of two

in a kundli?

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

 

 

 

 

 

 

bhuwanvashishtha

[bhuwanvashishtha]

21 October 2004 11:26

 

chandra

& shukra

 

 

 

Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

 

You have asked :

 

Framaan no.6

 

Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni karta

hai shukra se

 

How does it manifest the results in a kundali?

 

**********************

 

In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka jhagara'.

Moon

represents the mother and venus the wife, and that

there is a

tarditional hostility between the two. If the two

are

together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki tarah

ka prabhav hoga ya

aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat

keechar ki tarah hogi'

 

with naman to all gurujan,

 

bhuwan

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Aadarneeya Parvez bhai,

 

I am afraid , it might not be a suitable time to discuss planets

yet. All the planets could be discussed when the group comes to it.

Since you have raised the querry I would just point out a few things.

 

[ a ] If the two planets , moon & venus , are together then the

result of their house 4 , 2 & 7 will be 'manda'.

[ b ] If moon aspects venus { ie if the moon is in the earlier

houses } he may be either ' ba kamal sidhdh faqeer' or ' a

nashebaaz'. And if venus aspects moon , he might hate women.

[ c ] The placement of both the planets , either together or

seperately, gives various results.Just to give an example If both of

them are together in the first house , the health of the natives

wife might be adversely effected or she might have a mental disease.

On the other hand if the moon is in the first and the venus in the

7th , the natives mother and wife would live like mother and

daughter. The relations between the two will be very cordial.

And so on.

 

With regards, and naman to all,

 

bhuwan

 

 

 

 

 

, " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

<pervez@s...> wrote:

> Bhuwanji,

>

> The definition you give is already given in `chandra-shukra yuti'

page.

> There are many instances where the fight between `saas and bahu'

is not

> there.

>

> How should we interpret the role of two in a kundli?

>

> bye

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

> _____

>

> bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

> 21 October 2004 11:26

>

> chandra & shukra

>

>

> Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

>

> You have asked :

>

> Framaan no.6

>

> Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni karta hai shukra se

>

> How does it manifest the results in a kundali?

>

> **********************

>

> In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka jhagara'. Moon

> represents the mother and venus the wife, and that there is a

> tarditional hostility between the two. If the two are

> together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki tarah ka prabhav hoga ya

> aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat keechar ki tarah hogi'

>

> with naman to all gurujan,

>

> bhuwan

>

>

 

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Bhuwanji,

 

I could not communicate properly

earlier.

 

I try again: It was said Chandra is sam of Shukra but chandra has enmity to Shukra – what does this mean and how to interpret in

horoscope when it is enemy or not.

 

You say that Chandra aspects Shukra i.e. if moon is in earlier houses … but again,

… my understanding is that aspects are very precise and from house to

house and not, … as you mention … just by being in an earlier

house.

 

Please remember, my knowledge is very,

very limited and these issues boggle my understanding … any light onto

them shall help.

 

LK is very mysterious and as beautifully

expressed by Kulbirji … continuous re-reading

of LK brings new dimensions … and this effort to proceed farman by farman is an excellent

effort … hopefully, with our discussions we shall be able to remove all

doubts. So … my questions … are in this direction …

 

 

 

 

bye

Sheikh Pervez Hameed

 

 

 

 

 

 

bhuwanvashishtha

[bhuwanvashishtha]

21 October 2004 17:11

 

Re:

chandra & shukra

 

 

 

Aadarneeya Parvez bhai,

 

I am afraid , it might not be a suitable time to

discuss planets

yet. All the planets could be discussed when the

group comes to it.

Since you have raised the querry I would just

point out a few things.

 

[ a ] If the two planets , moon & venus , are

together then the

result of their house 4 , 2 & 7 will be 'manda'.

[ b ] If moon aspects venus { ie if the moon is in

the earlier

houses } he may be either ' ba kamal sidhdh

faqeer' or ' a

nashebaaz'. And if venus aspects moon , he might

hate women.

[ c ] The placement of both the planets , either

together or

seperately, gives various results.Just to give an

example If both of

them are together in the first house , the health

of the natives

wife might be adversely effected or she might have

a mental disease.

On the other hand if the moon is in the first and

the venus in the

7th , the natives mother and wife would live like

mother and

daughter. The relations between the two will be

very cordial.

And so on.

 

With regards, and naman to all,

 

bhuwan

 

 

 

 

 

, " Sheikh

Pervez Hameed "

<pervez@s...> wrote:

> Bhuwanji,

>

> The definition you give is already given in

`chandra-shukra yuti'

page.

> There are many instances where the fight

between `saas and bahu'

is not

> there.

>

> How should we interpret the role of two in a

kundli?

>

> bye

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

> _____

>

> bhuwanvashishtha

[bhuwanvashishtha]

> 21 October 2004 11:26

>

> chandra & shukra

>

>

> Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

>

> You have asked :

>

> Framaan no.6

>

> Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni

karta hai shukra se

>

> How does it manifest the results in a

kundali?

>

>

**********************

>

> In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka

jhagara'. Moon

> represents the mother and venus the wife, and

that there is a

> tarditional hostility between the two. If the

two are

> together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki

tarah ka prabhav hoga ya

> aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat

keechar ki tarah hogi'

>

> with naman to all gurujan,

>

> bhuwan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Aadarneeya Parvez Bhai,

 

[ 1 ] There is a misprint in Arun sanhita page # 7 where the details

of planetary friendships and enemities are given. It says " chandra

shukra sam hein par chandra dushmani karta hai shukra se " . Instead

it should have been shukra dushmani karta hai chandra se.

 

The mistake is carried on from the original Lal Kitab 1952. I

checked it and found the same mistake on page # 31 where it says "

chandra shukra barabar hein magar chandra dushmani karta hai shukra

se " . I think it is a misprint.

 

Chandra as a mother doesnot consider any planet as its enemy. It has

either friends or neutrals { sam }. Even in the Vedic astrology , it

is the same. Moon doesnot consider any planet as an enemy.

 

[ 2 ] As regards the aspect issue , in brief now , planets in the

earlier houses { from house 1 to 6 } aspect the later houses ;

planets in the later houses do not aspect the previous houses except

for the 8th . For example a planet in the 3rd house would aspect

the 9th and the 11th. Therefore, if moon is inthe 3rd house and

venus in the 9th or 11th then it would be said that moon is

aspecting venus. And if Venus is in the 3rd house and moon is in the

9th or the 11th house , in that case venus would aspect moon.

 

with regards and naman to gurujan,

 

bhuwan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

<pervez@s...> wrote:

> Bhuwanji,

>

> I could not communicate properly earlier.

>

> I try again: It was said Chandra is sam of Shukra but chandra has

enmity to

> Shukra – what does this mean and how to interpret in horoscope

when it is

> enemy or not.

>

> You say that Chandra aspects Shukra i.e. if moon is in earlier

houses … but

> again, … my understanding is that aspects are very precise and

from house to

> house and not, … as you mention … just by being in an earlier

house.

>

> Please remember, my knowledge is very, very limited and these

issues boggle

> my understanding … any light onto them shall help.

>

> LK is very mysterious and as beautifully expressed by Kulbirji …

continuous

> re-reading of LK brings new dimensions … and this effort to

proceed farman

> by farman is an excellent effort … hopefully, with our discussions

we shall

> be able to remove all doubts. So … my questions … are in this

direction …

>

>

>

> bye

> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>

> _____

>

> bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

> 21 October 2004 17:11

>

> Re: chandra & shukra

>

>

> Aadarneeya Parvez bhai,

>

> I am afraid , it might not be a suitable time to discuss planets

> yet. All the planets could be discussed when the group comes to

it.

> Since you have raised the querry I would just point out a few

things.

>

> [ a ] If the two planets , moon & venus , are together then the

> result of their house 4 , 2 & 7 will be 'manda'.

> [ b ] If moon aspects venus { ie if the moon is in the earlier

> houses } he may be either ' ba kamal sidhdh faqeer' or ' a

> nashebaaz'. And if venus aspects moon , he might hate women.

> [ c ] The placement of both the planets , either together or

> seperately, gives various results.Just to give an example If both

of

> them are together in the first house , the health of the natives

> wife might be adversely effected or she might have a mental

disease.

> On the other hand if the moon is in the first and the venus in the

> 7th , the natives mother and wife would live like mother and

> daughter. The relations between the two will be very cordial.

> And so on.

>

> With regards, and naman to all,

>

> bhuwan

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

> <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > Bhuwanji,

> >

> > The definition you give is already given in `chandra-shukra

yuti'

> page.

> > There are many instances where the fight between `saas and bahu'

> is not

> > there.

> >

> > How should we interpret the role of two in a kundli?

> >

> > bye

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> >

> > _____

> >

> > bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

> > 21 October 2004 11:26

> >

> > chandra & shukra

> >

> >

> > Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

> >

> > You have asked :

> >

> > Framaan no.6

> >

> > Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni karta hai shukra se

> >

> > How does it manifest the results in a kundali?

> >

> > **********************

> >

> > In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka jhagara'. Moon

> > represents the mother and venus the wife, and that there is a

> > tarditional hostility between the two. If the two are

> > together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki tarah ka prabhav hoga ya

> > aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat keechar ki tarah

hogi'

> >

> > with naman to all gurujan,

> >

> > bhuwan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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thanx bhuwan even umesh told me about it a long ago but as you know

what an idiot i am i ignored it. i appreciate your approach about

decoding this book from life. but how do we realate this dushmani

while analysing the kundali. what are its manifestations. i am not

sure but i think i have an answer but you also think about it then we

shall discuss this in detail. i found this manifestation important

that's why i am insisting if some other member has some explanation

kind work on it thorughly we shall take the topic after two days i

have noted it somewhere in my notes so i want to recheck it before

posting.

thanx

kulbir bains , " bhuwanvashishtha "

<bhuwanvashishtha> wrote:

>

> Aadarneeya Parvez Bhai,

>

> [ 1 ] There is a misprint in Arun sanhita page # 7 where the

details

> of planetary friendships and enemities are given. It says " chandra

> shukra sam hein par chandra dushmani karta hai shukra se " . Instead

> it should have been shukra dushmani karta hai chandra se.

>

> The mistake is carried on from the original Lal Kitab 1952. I

> checked it and found the same mistake on page # 31 where it says "

> chandra shukra barabar hein magar chandra dushmani karta hai shukra

> se " . I think it is a misprint.

>

> Chandra as a mother doesnot consider any planet as its enemy. It

has

> either friends or neutrals { sam }. Even in the Vedic astrology ,

it

> is the same. Moon doesnot consider any planet as an enemy.

>

> [ 2 ] As regards the aspect issue , in brief now , planets in the

> earlier houses { from house 1 to 6 } aspect the later houses ;

> planets in the later houses do not aspect the previous houses

except

> for the 8th . For example a planet in the 3rd house would aspect

> the 9th and the 11th. Therefore, if moon is inthe 3rd house and

> venus in the 9th or 11th then it would be said that moon is

> aspecting venus. And if Venus is in the 3rd house and moon is in

the

> 9th or the 11th house , in that case venus would aspect moon.

>

> with regards and naman to gurujan,

>

> bhuwan

>

, " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

> <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > Bhuwanji,

> >

> > I could not communicate properly earlier.

> >

> > I try again: It was said Chandra is sam of Shukra but chandra has

> enmity to

> > Shukra – what does this mean and how to interpret in horoscope

> when it is

> > enemy or not.

> >

> > You say that Chandra aspects Shukra i.e. if moon is in earlier

> houses … but

> > again, … my understanding is that aspects are very precise and

> from house to

> > house and not, … as you mention … just by being in an earlier

> house.

> >

> > Please remember, my knowledge is very, very limited and these

> issues boggle

> > my understanding … any light onto them shall help.

> >

> > LK is very mysterious and as beautifully expressed by Kulbirji …

> continuous

> > re-reading of LK brings new dimensions … and this effort to

> proceed farman

> > by farman is an excellent effort … hopefully, with our

discussions

> we shall

> > be able to remove all doubts. So … my questions … are in this

> direction …

> >

> >

> >

> > bye

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> >

> > _____

> >

> > bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

> > 21 October 2004 17:11

> >

> > Re: chandra & shukra

> >

> >

> > Aadarneeya Parvez bhai,

> >

> > I am afraid , it might not be a suitable time to discuss planets

> > yet. All the planets could be discussed when the group comes to

> it.

> > Since you have raised the querry I would just point out a few

> things.

> >

> > [ a ] If the two planets , moon & venus , are together then the

> > result of their house 4 , 2 & 7 will be 'manda'.

> > [ b ] If moon aspects venus { ie if the moon is in the earlier

> > houses } he may be either ' ba kamal sidhdh faqeer' or ' a

> > nashebaaz'. And if venus aspects moon , he might hate women.

> > [ c ] The placement of both the planets , either together or

> > seperately, gives various results.Just to give an example If both

> of

> > them are together in the first house , the health of the natives

> > wife might be adversely effected or she might have a mental

> disease.

> > On the other hand if the moon is in the first and the venus in

the

> > 7th , the natives mother and wife would live like mother and

> > daughter. The relations between the two will be very cordial.

> > And so on.

> >

> > With regards, and naman to all,

> >

> > bhuwan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

> > <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > > Bhuwanji,

> > >

> > > The definition you give is already given in `chandra-shukra

> yuti'

> > page.

> > > There are many instances where the fight between `saas and

bahu'

> > is not

> > > there.

> > >

> > > How should we interpret the role of two in a kundli?

> > >

> > > bye

> > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

> > > 21 October 2004 11:26

> > >

> > > chandra & shukra

> > >

> > >

> > > Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

> > >

> > > You have asked :

> > >

> > > Framaan no.6

> > >

> > > Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni karta hai shukra se

> > >

> > > How does it manifest the results in a kundali?

> > >

> > > **********************

> > >

> > > In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka jhagara'. Moon

> > > represents the mother and venus the wife, and that there is a

> > > tarditional hostility between the two. If the two are

> > > together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki tarah ka prabhav hoga

ya

> > > aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat keechar ki tarah

> hogi'

> > >

> > > with naman to all gurujan,

> > >

> > > bhuwan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I think there is confusion regarding planetary friendship amongst few members.

1. As per vedic astrology No planet consider himself as enemy to moon. Please

note it carefully .

2. Moon is Enemy of three planets i.e. Saturn,Mercury and Venus

 

For more clarification You can download the 1.exe from the

file section of the group. This is is a self extracting word document. I am also

uploading the zip version of the document

 

======= At 2004-10-21, 18:50:57 you wrote: =======

 

>

>

>Aadarneeya Parvez Bhai,

>

>[ 1 ] There is a misprint in Arun sanhita page # 7 where the details

>of planetary friendships and enemities are given. It says " chandra

>shukra sam hein par chandra dushmani karta hai shukra se " . Instead

>it should have been shukra dushmani karta hai chandra se.

>

>The mistake is carried on from the original Lal Kitab 1952. I

>checked it and found the same mistake on page # 31 where it says "

>chandra shukra barabar hein magar chandra dushmani karta hai shukra

>se " . I think it is a misprint.

>

>Chandra as a mother doesnot consider any planet as its enemy. It has

>either friends or neutrals { sam }. Even in the Vedic astrology , it

>is the same. Moon doesnot consider any planet as an enemy.

>

>[ 2 ] As regards the aspect issue , in brief now , planets in the

>earlier houses { from house 1 to 6 } aspect the later houses ;

>planets in the later houses do not aspect the previous houses except

>for the 8th . For example a planet in the 3rd house would aspect

>the 9th and the 11th. Therefore, if moon is inthe 3rd house and

>venus in the 9th or 11th then it would be said that moon is

>aspecting venus. And if Venus is in the 3rd house and moon is in the

>9th or the 11th house , in that case venus would aspect moon.

>

>with regards and naman to gurujan,

>

>bhuwan

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

><pervez@s...> wrote:

>> Bhuwanji,

>>

>> I could not communicate properly earlier.

>>

>> I try again: It was said Chandra is sam of Shukra but chandra has

>enmity to

>> Shukra – what does this mean and how to interpret in horoscope

>when it is

>> enemy or not.

>>

>> You say that Chandra aspects Shukra i.e. if moon is in earlier

>houses … but

>> again, … my understanding is that aspects are very precise and

>from house to

>> house and not, … as you mention … just by being in an earlier

>house.

>>

>> Please remember, my knowledge is very, very limited and these

>issues boggle

>> my understanding … any light onto them shall help.

>>

>> LK is very mysterious and as beautifully expressed by Kulbirji …

>continuous

>> re-reading of LK brings new dimensions … and this effort to

>proceed farman

>> by farman is an excellent effort … hopefully, with our discussions

>we shall

>> be able to remove all doubts. So … my questions … are in this

>direction …

>>

>>

>>

>> bye

>> Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>>

>> _____

>>

>> bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

>> 21 October 2004 17:11

>>

>> Re: chandra & shukra

>>

>>

>> Aadarneeya Parvez bhai,

>>

>> I am afraid , it might not be a suitable time to discuss planets

>> yet. All the planets could be discussed when the group comes to

>it.

>> Since you have raised the querry I would just point out a few

>things.

>>

>> [ a ] If the two planets , moon & venus , are together then the

>> result of their house 4 , 2 & 7 will be 'manda'.

>> [ b ] If moon aspects venus { ie if the moon is in the earlier

>> houses } he may be either ' ba kamal sidhdh faqeer' or ' a

>> nashebaaz'. And if venus aspects moon , he might hate women.

>> [ c ] The placement of both the planets , either together or

>> seperately, gives various results.Just to give an example If both

>of

>> them are together in the first house , the health of the natives

>> wife might be adversely effected or she might have a mental

>disease.

>> On the other hand if the moon is in the first and the venus in the

>> 7th , the natives mother and wife would live like mother and

>> daughter. The relations between the two will be very cordial.

>> And so on.

>>

>> With regards, and naman to all,

>>

>> bhuwan

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

>> <pervez@s...> wrote:

>> > Bhuwanji,

>> >

>> > The definition you give is already given in `chandra-shukra

>yuti'

>> page.

>> > There are many instances where the fight between `saas and bahu'

>> is not

>> > there.

>> >

>> > How should we interpret the role of two in a kundli?

>> >

>> > bye

>> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

>> >

>> > _____

>> >

>> > bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

>> > 21 October 2004 11:26

>> >

>> > chandra & shukra

>> >

>> >

>> > Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

>> >

>> > You have asked :

>> >

>> > Framaan no.6

>> >

>> > Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni karta hai shukra se

>> >

>> > How does it manifest the results in a kundali?

>> >

>> > **********************

>> >

>> > In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka jhagara'. Moon

>> > represents the mother and venus the wife, and that there is a

>> > tarditional hostility between the two. If the two are

>> > together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki tarah ka prabhav hoga ya

>> > aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat keechar ki tarah

>hogi'

>> >

>> > with naman to all gurujan,

>> >

>> > bhuwan

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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Sh. Bhjuvan ji,

In 1940 Edi. Farmaan no. 152-153 page no. 247 pandit ji clearly write

" Chandra shukra aapas main smaan hey magar chandra dushmani karega

shukra sey. shukra Estri aur chandra mata yun Sas ka jhagra bhi hota

hey aur dono brabar bhi magar Sas hi dushmani dushmani karegi.

Karak Rashi:- Ghar ka swami chandrma hey jo Shukr se dushmani karta

hey, Brihspati unch karta hey jissey shukra khudh dushmani karta hey,

Mangal neech karta hey jo shukra ke smaan hey. Esliye Estri do hon.

Char saal khub aaram, Bagh-Bagichey khub lagaye jab brihspti ka asar

ho jo kisi sey dushmani nahin karta aur shukra bhi chandra se

dushmani nahi karta.

with Love

pkhera

, " bhuwanvashishtha "

<bhuwanvashishtha> wrote:

>

> Aadarneeya Parvez Bhai,

>

> [ 1 ] There is a misprint in Arun sanhita page # 7 where the

details

> of planetary friendships and enemities are given. It says " chandra

> shukra sam hein par chandra dushmani karta hai shukra se " . Instead

> it should have been shukra dushmani karta hai chandra se.

>

> The mistake is carried on from the original Lal Kitab 1952. I

> checked it and found the same mistake on page # 31 where it says "

> chandra shukra barabar hein magar chandra dushmani karta hai shukra

> se " . I think it is a misprint.

>

> Chandra as a mother doesnot consider any planet as its enemy. It

has

> either friends or neutrals { sam }. Even in the Vedic astrology ,

it

> is the same. Moon doesnot consider any planet as an enemy.

>

> [ 2 ] As regards the aspect issue , in brief now , planets in the

> earlier houses { from house 1 to 6 } aspect the later houses ;

> planets in the later houses do not aspect the previous houses

except

> for the 8th . For example a planet in the 3rd house would aspect

> the 9th and the 11th. Therefore, if moon is inthe 3rd house and

> venus in the 9th or 11th then it would be said that moon is

> aspecting venus. And if Venus is in the 3rd house and moon is in

the

> 9th or the 11th house , in that case venus would aspect moon.

>

> with regards and naman to gurujan,

>

> bhuwan

>

, " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

> <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > Bhuwanji,

> >

> > I could not communicate properly earlier.

> >

> > I try again: It was said Chandra is sam of Shukra but chandra has

> enmity to

> > Shukra – what does this mean and how to interpret in horoscope

> when it is

> > enemy or not.

> >

> > You say that Chandra aspects Shukra i.e. if moon is in earlier

> houses … but

> > again, … my understanding is that aspects are very precise and

> from house to

> > house and not, … as you mention … just by being in an earlier

> house.

> >

> > Please remember, my knowledge is very, very limited and these

> issues boggle

> > my understanding … any light onto them shall help.

> >

> > LK is very mysterious and as beautifully expressed by Kulbirji …

> continuous

> > re-reading of LK brings new dimensions … and this effort to

> proceed farman

> > by farman is an excellent effort … hopefully, with our

discussions

> we shall

> > be able to remove all doubts. So … my questions … are in this

> direction …

> >

> >

> >

> > bye

> > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> >

> > _____

> >

> > bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

> > 21 October 2004 17:11

> >

> > Re: chandra & shukra

> >

> >

> > Aadarneeya Parvez bhai,

> >

> > I am afraid , it might not be a suitable time to discuss planets

> > yet. All the planets could be discussed when the group comes to

> it.

> > Since you have raised the querry I would just point out a few

> things.

> >

> > [ a ] If the two planets , moon & venus , are together then the

> > result of their house 4 , 2 & 7 will be 'manda'.

> > [ b ] If moon aspects venus { ie if the moon is in the earlier

> > houses } he may be either ' ba kamal sidhdh faqeer' or ' a

> > nashebaaz'. And if venus aspects moon , he might hate women.

> > [ c ] The placement of both the planets , either together or

> > seperately, gives various results.Just to give an example If both

> of

> > them are together in the first house , the health of the natives

> > wife might be adversely effected or she might have a mental

> disease.

> > On the other hand if the moon is in the first and the venus in

the

> > 7th , the natives mother and wife would live like mother and

> > daughter. The relations between the two will be very cordial.

> > And so on.

> >

> > With regards, and naman to all,

> >

> > bhuwan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Sheikh Pervez Hameed "

> > <pervez@s...> wrote:

> > > Bhuwanji,

> > >

> > > The definition you give is already given in `chandra-shukra

> yuti'

> > page.

> > > There are many instances where the fight between `saas and

bahu'

> > is not

> > > there.

> > >

> > > How should we interpret the role of two in a kundli?

> > >

> > > bye

> > > Sheikh Pervez Hameed

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > bhuwanvashishtha [bhuwanvashishtha]

> > > 21 October 2004 11:26

> > >

> > > chandra & shukra

> > >

> > >

> > > Aadarneeya Kulbir jee,

> > >

> > > You have asked :

> > >

> > > Framaan no.6

> > >

> > > Chandra shukra sam hain par chandra dushamni karta hai shukra se

> > >

> > > How does it manifest the results in a kundali?

> > >

> > > **********************

> > >

> > > In my opinion it menifests as ' sas bahu ka jhagara'. Moon

> > > represents the mother and venus the wife, and that there is a

> > > tarditional hostility between the two. If the two are

> > > together 'doodh mein mitti mili hui ki tarah ka prabhav hoga

ya

> > > aiasa paani jis mein mitti ghuli ho. kismat keechar ki tarah

> hogi'

> > >

> > > with naman to all gurujan,

> > >

> > > bhuwan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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