Four Step Theory & Karr theory

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Dear Shan,

 

Mrs. Ketheeswaran, April 26, 1978, 23:40 PM, Colombo, 06N56, 79E51,

NKPA 23:27:51, Asc Sag 28:43:56, Ketu Dasa Bal 6Y:6M:9D (KPAstro 3.0)

 

5th cusp Sbl is Saturn and its primary significators are:

 

Planet Sa: Cnj 8

Starlord of Sa is Ke: 3; Sgl Ju(6, 1-12); Stl Sa(8, 2, Cnj 8)

Sublord of Sa is Ke:

Starlord of Ke is Sa: 8; 2; Cnj 8

 

Child birth is promised because of 2 in steps 2 & 4.

 

Previous Dasa ending 06 Nov 2004 is Venus and its primary

significators are:

 

Planet Ve+: 5; 10; Asp 11; Cnj 5

Starlord of Ve is Su: 4

Sublord of Ve is Me*: 3

Starlord of Me is Me*: 3

 

Despite of 5 & 11 in first step, no child was born.

 

In this chart Punar-poo is not found as per definition of Dr. Kar in

K.P. & Astrology 1996, page 79 (referring KP Reader IV page 76-77

and Reader VI page 179) as well as repeated in Vaikari Ramamurthy's

Punarphoo book, page 1-2. Anyway Punarphoo is mainly related to

delay and obstacles in marriage as per Guruji KSK. (Here it may be

due to Sbl Mer[3,6,7,9] of 5th Sbl Venus as per KP.)

 

Current running Dasa is Sun and its primary significators are:

 

Planet Su:

Starlord of Su is Ke: 3; Sgl Ju(6, 1-12); Stl Sa(8, 2, Cnj 8)

Sublord of Su is Me*: 3

Starlord of Me is Me*: 3

 

Sun Dasa is capable of giving child birth because of " 2 " in first

step.

Moon Bhukti of 2, " 5,11 " can be chosen.

Karaka Jupiter Anthara of " 9.11 " can be chosen.

Then to check the transit for this DBA.

 

(Pl note Dasa lord Sun is not conducive to child 's birth as per KP

in all levels of Plt Sun(4], Stl Ketu[3,6,7,9,6,1,3,12] and Sbl Mer

[3,6,7,9]).

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

4 Step Significators (KPAstro 3.0)

 

Empty houses: 1, 2, 10, 12

Planets with no planets in their stars (+): Ma, Ju, Ve

Planets in own stars (*): Me

 

Mo conj 12

Ve conj 5

Sa conj 8

 

Mo aspects 6

Ve aspects 11

 

Planet Ke:

Starlord of Ke is Sa: 8; 2; Cnj 8

Sublord of Ke is Su:

Starlord of Su is Ke: 3; Sgl Ju(6, 1-12); Stl Sa(8, 2, Cnj 8)

 

Planet Ve+: 5; 10; Asp 11; Cnj 5

Starlord of Ve is Su: 4

Sublord of Ve is Me*: 3

Starlord of Me is Me*: 3

 

Planet Su:

Starlord of Su is Ke: 3; Sgl Ju(6, 1-12); Stl Sa(8, 2, Cnj 8)

Sublord of Su is Me*: 3

Starlord of Me is Me*: 3

 

Planet Mo: Cnj 12

Starlord of Mo is Ke: 3; Sgl Ju(6, 1-12); Stl Sa(8, 2, Cnj 8)

Sublord of Mo is Ve+: 5; 10; Asp 11; Cnj 5

Starlord of Ve is Su: 4

 

Planet Ma+: 7

Starlord of Ma is Sa: 8; 2; Cnj 8

Sublord of Ma is Ma+: 7

Starlord of Ma is Sa: 8; 2; Cnj 8

 

Planet Ra:

Starlord of Ra is Mo: 11; Asp 6; Cnj 12

Sublord of Ra is Mo: Cnj 12

Starlord of Mo is Ke: 3; Sgl Ju(6, 1-12); Stl Sa(8, 2, Cnj 8)

 

Planet Ju+: 6; 1-12

Starlord of Ju is Ra: 9; Sgl Me(3); Stl Mo(11, Asp 6, Cnj 12)

Sublord of Ju is Ju+: 6; 1-12

Starlord of Ju is Ra: 9; Sgl Me(3); Stl Mo(11, Asp 6, Cnj 12)

 

Planet Sa: Cnj 8

Starlord of Sa is Ke: 3; Sgl Ju(6, 1-12); Stl Sa(8, 2, Cnj 8)

Sublord of Sa is Ke:

Starlord of Ke is Sa: 8; 2; Cnj 8

 

Planet Me*: 3

Starlord of Me is Me*: 3

Sublord of Me is Ve+: 5; 10; Asp 11; Cnj 5

Starlord of Ve is Su: 4

 

 

 

 

, srishan Vinasithamby

<sri_shan25 wrote:

>

> Dear Members,

>

>

> A.R.Raichur: I have to thank you for your early reply to my

query regarding the child birth for Mrs. Ketheeswaran who is married

for the last sixyears without a child.

>

> Her Birth particulars are given below for easy reference.;

>

> D.O.B = 26/4/1978

> T.O.B = 11.40pm

> P.O.B = 6N51: 79E52

> Timing an event is a fairly difficult task. However we boast

that prediction upto the time of occurance of an event can be

predicted by the K.P System and the Anthra is a long period.

> Further when there is no " Punarbu Dosa " the Bukthi lord can be

selected after the Dasa lord by the four step theory and by the

elimination of the Bukthi in the cyclic order.

>

> In this case there is Punarbu Dosa beacuse Moon is in the Kethu

star who is in Sat star .

> according to KARR'S theory and supported by K. Balachandran.

>

> This is the reason why she did not have a child during Venus

Dasa though a good significator.Next Dasa Sun is connected to Sat

and significator of 2 & 3 ( supporting house 5).Sun is also in the

BLRP.So we have to take the last bukthi connected to Sat from the

Dasa lord.Here it is Venus connected to Sat as Ven is in the star of

Sun in the star of Keth

> in the star of Sat.And there are no plannets in Ven star.So Ven

can be the bukthi lord.

> Ven also appears in BLRP.

> By the four step theory Ven signify 2,5, & 11

> Now Anthra must be a plannet in someway connected to the cuspal

planets of 2,5,11.

> Here ven in the star of Sun,in the star of keth in the star of

sat.

> Sat is lord of 2, sub lord of 2, star lord of 11, sub lord of 11.

>

> Ven the anthra lord is the lord of 5.

> Now the period is Sun - Ven - Ven from 3/11/09 to 3/1/2010

> On 25/11/09 Sun was at 218deg 58mts . In Mars sign Sat star Ven

sub . Mars is a significator and in BLRP.

> Sat in the star of Kethu a significator and in BLRP.Ven a

significator and in BLRP.

> So the child birth is on 25/11/09.

> If you agree , pl give the date of conceiving.

> Otherwise please give your date of delivery and concieving with

reasons.

>

> Please oblige.

>

> Shan

>

>

> Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

> dear srishan Vinasithamby

> So far so good.

> Now for timing, check the Dasa,Bhukty, and Antara Lords. These

amongst them should signify 5,2,and 11th houses. Star with Dasa,

Proceed to Bhuti, and then Antara.

>

>

> srishan Vinasithamby <sri_shan25 wrote:

> Dear Members, & Tin Win 853,

>

> I have to thank Tin Win 853 for his detailed analysis of my

query under four step theory, dated 27/11/07 regarding the marraige

of Param.

>

> Mrs. Ketheeswaran is married for the last six years without a

child.She had twice attempted artificial fertilisation without

sucess and is continuing.

>

> Her birth particulars are

> :

> D.O.B 26/04/1978

> T.O.B 11.40pm

> P.O.B 6N51 : 79E52

> According to four step theory sub lord of 5 is Sat.

> Sat -----

> Sat in the star of Kethu 3P - Jup(6p - 12p -1p) star Sat 8p -

2p .

> Sat in the sub of Kethu -----

> Kethu in the star of Sat 8p -2p.

> So sub lord Sat signify 2 , 1 (supporting 11) , 3 child coming

out of stomach ,6 sickness ,8 use of instruments, hospitalisation.

As Mars is not involved, there is no cutting and delivery will be

normal.This means there will be child birth.

>

> According to the theory of Karr:

> Sub lord Sat in the S/S of sun in the S/S of Rahu in the star of

moon in 11.So there is child birth.

>

> Please comment and give probable period of concieving and period

of delivery.

>

>

> Please oblige.

>

>

> Shan

>

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