NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

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Dear All,

 

Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following reasons:

 

1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of opinion,

disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not left

to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect provided

they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord of

the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is

deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the significator

of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

 

2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article " Mars Dosha-

A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that

the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without

taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by Mars

from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does

not suit our modern age.

 

3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a house

is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with suggestion

for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars

Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.

 

4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars Dosha,

naturally, each one will have their own say according to their whims

and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to run

from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given which

has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is the

public who suffers.

 

5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100

foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the Multi-

marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha in

38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

 

6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles " by

Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11

rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103 single

marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule

of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying

1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage

charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars Dosha

has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

 

7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.

 

Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for

KP lovers.

 

Regards,

 

tw

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Dear Shri TinWinji

Namaskar

I was indeed very much awed to read your learned

explanation on the supposedly irrelevance of Mars

dosha.In my humble opinion learned members like you

should publicise such horoscopes of successfully

wedded couples who have unattended mars dosha yet they

are leading a perfectly normal married life.Like for

example in my parents case my father has mars in the

4th house while my mother does not have it, yet they

are still going on strong in their life.Ofcourse my

mother has had some health problems throughout which

some astrologers have ascribed to the mars dosha in my

father's horoscope.Also in such cases we should see

what other planetary combinations are present to

cancel the supposedly malefic effect of mars dosha.

Like some say there should be saturn in opposition in

the other partner's chart or some say rahu should be

there and such explanation are given to counter the

absence of malefescence of mars.Again some say that if

mars is in benign planets rashi then mar's effect is

mellowed.So what I mean to say that the supposedly

malefic effect or the general perception about mars

dosha should be removed with certain irrevocable

evidence.

thanks for your time.

With regards

yours sincerely

jayant giri

--- tw853 <tw853 wrote:

 

> Dear All,

>

> Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the

> following reasons:

>

> 1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of

> opinion,

> disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple

> it is not left

> to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable

> effect provided

> they happen to be deposited in such a position, that

> the sublord of

> the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or

> the sublord is

> deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is

> the significator

> of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

>

> 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his

> article " Mars Dosha-

> A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to

> conclude that

> the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are

> meaningless without

> taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects

> received by Mars

> from other planets, its stellar position etc, and

> Mars Dosha does

> not suit our modern age.

>

> 3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says

> that when a house

> is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree

> with suggestion

> for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another

> one with Mars

> Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is

> already in fire.

>

> 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}:

> Regarding Mars Dosha,

> naturally, each one will have their own say

> according to their whims

> and fancies, and due to this it is the general

> public pushed to run

> from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction

> is given which

> has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc.

> Finally it is the

> public who suffers.

>

> 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA-

> rated 100

> foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had

> used for the Multi-

> marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts,

> mitigated Dosha in

> 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10%

> only.

>

> 6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP

> Principles " by

> Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this

> Group, the 11

> rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB

> AA-rated 103 single

> marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only

> the 2nd rule

> of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of

> Mars, and occupying

> 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%)

> single-marriage

> charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts,

> indicating Mars Dosha

> has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

>

> 7) No other attention has been given in the KP

> literature.

>

> Any `particular' experience of learned members will

> be helpful for

> KP lovers.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

>

>

 

 

Jayant Giri

 

 

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Dear tw853, Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII... Earlier also,I had voiced this same opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it... If you remember,in the past,many astrologers had passed similar opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book " Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts... In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs to be done... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following reasons:1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion, disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not left to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect provided they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord of the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12". 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars Dosha-A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by Mars from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does

not suit our modern age.3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a house is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with suggestion for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars Dosha, naturally, each one will have their own say according to their whims and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to run from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given which has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is the public who suffers. 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100 foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the Multi-marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha in 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11 rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103 single marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for KP lovers.Regards,tw

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Dear TW

 

I agree with you regarding (i)

 

Khas

 

tw853 <tw853 Sent: Wednesday, 14 November, 2007 12:53:56 AM NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

 

Dear All,Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following reasons:1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion, disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not left to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect provided they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord of the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12". 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars Dosha-A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by Mars from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does not suit our modern age.3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof.

Krishnamurti says that when a house is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with suggestion for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars Dosha, naturally, each one will have their own say according to their whims and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to run from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given which has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is the public who suffers. 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100 foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the Multi-marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha in 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only. 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa

as per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11 rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103 single marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for KP lovers.Regards,tw

 

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Dear All,

 

Mars Dosha Rule 1: " Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying

any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12 " in the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as

per KP Principles " by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of

this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is

significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-

rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out

of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such

Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.

 

Regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear tw853,

> Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate

when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying

houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...

> Earlier also,I had voiced this same

opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...

> If you remember,in the past,many astrologers

had passed similar

> opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "

Punarphoo " written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam

appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...

> In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too

early to " totally write off " Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs

to be done...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following

reasons:

>

> 1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of opinion,

> disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not

left

> to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

provided

> they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord

of

> the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is

> deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the

significator

> of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

>

> 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article " Mars

Dosha-

> A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that

> the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without

> taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by

Mars

> from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does

> not suit our modern age.

>

> 3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a

house

> is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with

suggestion

> for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars

> Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.

>

> 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars

Dosha,

> naturally, each one will have their own say according to their

whims

> and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to

run

> from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given

which

> has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is

the

> public who suffers.

>

> 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100

> foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the

Multi-

> marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha

in

> 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

>

> 6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles " by

> Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11

> rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103

single

> marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule

> of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying

> 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage

> charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars

Dosha

> has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

>

> 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.

>

> Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for

> KP lovers.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

 

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Dear tw863, Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments... Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure... With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying

any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.Regards,tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear tw853,> Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> Earlier also,I had voiced this same opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> If you

remember,in the past,many astrologers had passed similar > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book " Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs to be done...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao. > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear All,> > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following reasons:> > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion, > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not left > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect provided > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord of > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the

sublord is > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the significator > of 6 or 10 or 12". > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars Dosha-> A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by Mars > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does > not suit our modern age.> > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a house > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with suggestion > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.> > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars Dosha, > naturally,

each one will have their own say according to their whims > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to run > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given which > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is the > public who suffers. > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100 > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the Multi-> marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha in > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only. > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11 > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103 single > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule > of "Any planet

deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars Dosha > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for > KP lovers.> > Regards,> > tw> > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. >

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Dear All,

 

It would be highly appreciated if any member could provide the KP

literature reference for the following type of Mars Dosha because I

can't find it.

 

Mars Dosha Rule 1: " Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying

any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12 "

 

Thanks and regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear tw863,

> Pl. read the book " Punarphoo " and then give

your comments...

> Also,making such sweeping statements that

details of Mars Dosha,as mentioned by me, " cannot be found in K.P.

literature " , should not be made,because if the reference page number

and the name of the book is given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...

> With best wishes,

> L.Y.Rao.

>

>

>

>

> tw853 <tw853 wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Mars Dosha Rule 1: " Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying

> any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12 " in the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as

> per KP Principles " by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section'

of

> this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is

> significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-

> rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)

out

> of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating

such

> Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.

>

> Regards,

>

> tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear tw853,

> > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate

> when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying

> houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...

> > Earlier also,I had voiced this same

> opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...

> > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers

> had passed similar

> > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "

> Punarphoo " written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam

> appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...

> > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too

> early to " totally write off " Mars Dosha...A lot more research

needs

> to be done...

> > With best wishes,

> > L.Y.Rao.

> >

> >

> > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following

> reasons:

> >

> > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of opinion,

> > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not

> left

> > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

> provided

> > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord

> of

> > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord

is

> > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the

> significator

> > of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

> >

> > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article " Mars

> Dosha-

> > A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude

that

> > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without

> > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by

> Mars

> > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha

does

> > not suit our modern age.

> >

> > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a

> house

> > is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with

> suggestion

> > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars

> > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.

> >

> > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars

> Dosha,

> > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their

> whims

> > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to

> run

> > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given

> which

> > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is

> the

> > public who suffers.

> >

> > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100

> > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the

> Multi-

> > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha

> in

> > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

> >

> > 6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles "

by

> > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11

> > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103

> single

> > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule

> > of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and

occupying

> > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage

> > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars

> Dosha

> > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

> >

> > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.

> >

> > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful

for

> > KP lovers.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Regarding Mars Dosha,I have read in some books ,that mars along with saturn ,or Kaliyuga itself thereis no such Dosha.Thanks,Narayantw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All, It would be highly appreciated if any member could provide the KP literature reference for the following type of Mars Dosha because I can't find it. Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" Thanks and regards, tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: > > Dear tw863, > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments... > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure... > With best wishes, > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote: > Dear All, > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as >

per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA- > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%) out > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage. > > Regards, > > tw > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > wrote: > > > > Dear tw853, > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII... > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak

had written about it... > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers > had passed similar > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book " > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts... > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs > to be done... > > With best wishes, > > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following > reasons: > > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion, > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not > left > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such

undesirable effect > provided > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord > of > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the > significator > > of 6 or 10 or 12". > > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars > Dosha- > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by > Mars > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does > > not suit our modern age. > > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a > house > > is in fire, we throw

water and send." does not agree with > suggestion > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire. > > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars > Dosha, > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their > whims > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to > run > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given > which > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is > the > > public who suffers. > > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100 > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the > Multi- > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts,

mitigated Dosha > in > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only. > > > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11 > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103 > single > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars > Dosha > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage. > > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature. > > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for > >

KP lovers. > > > > Regards, > > > > tw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > > > > > > > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. >

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Dear tw853, There are quite a few references to Mars Dosha in K.P. literature...here is one : Mars Doshsa(Kuja Dosha). If mars is posited in houses II,IV,VII,VIII & XII and none of these houses are owned by Mars or aspected by Jupiter...Mars Dosha is said to take effect...further additions were made later,making it more specific to say that if Mars was posited in own star,or Sun's star...etc... more references can be provided...but the most telling one is provided here... Ref : Astrosecrets & K.P., (1969 Edition),an excellent treatise by K.Subramaniam & the late Shri M.P. Shanmugham...p.95,( this treatise is available in three parts,and has a foreword by KSK himself)... You are requested to read K.P. literature a little more carefully in future,before "pontificating" as you have attempted to needlessly...and confused many a K.P. follower. With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote: Dear All,It would be highly appreciated if any member could provide the KP literature reference for the following type of Mars Dosha because I can't find it.Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12"Thanks

and regards,tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear tw863,> Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments...> Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > tw853 <tw853 wrote:> Dear All,> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is

> significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> > Regards,> > tw> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1@> > wrote:> >> > Dear tw853,> > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> > Earlier also,I had voiced this same > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers > had passed similar > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but

eventually, a book " > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs > to be done...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > tw853 <tw853@> wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following > reasons:> > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion, > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not > left > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect > provided > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord > of > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or

12 or the sublord is > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the > significator > > of 6 or 10 or 12". > > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars > Dosha-> > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by > Mars > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does > > not suit our modern age.> > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a > house > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with > suggestion > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in

fire.> > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars > Dosha, > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their > whims > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to > run > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given > which > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is > the > > public who suffers. > > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100 > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the > Multi-> > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha > in > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only. > > > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by > > Kanak and

Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11 > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103 > single > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars > Dosha > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for > > KP lovers.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a

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Dear L.Y.Rao,

Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which is entirely different from Punarphoo.

Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that

1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by byT.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)

(in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP )

Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason behind it?

Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?

Thanks and regards,

tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote:>> Dear tw863,> Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments...> Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> With best wishes,> L.Y.Rao.> > > > > tw853 tw853 wrote:> Dear All,> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> > Regards,> > tw> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@ > wrote:> >> > Dear tw853,> > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> > Earlier also,I had voiced this same > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers > had passed similar > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book " > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs > to be done...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao. > > > > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following > reasons:> > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion, > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not > left > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect > provided > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord > of > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the > significator > > of 6 or 10 or 12". > > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars > Dosha-> > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by > Mars > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does > > not suit our modern age.> > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a > house > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with > suggestion > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.> > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars > Dosha, > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their > whims > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to > run > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given > which > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is > the > > public who suffers. > > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100 > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the > Multi-> > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha > in > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only. > > > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11 > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103 > single > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars > Dosha > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for > > KP lovers.> > > > Regards,> > > > tw> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > >> > > > > > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. >

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Dear Members,

I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on.

In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that:

Quote

"When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual interpretation of the results."

Unquote.

From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives.

My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:

1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).

2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed.

 

I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done….(message # 15390)

 

Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha.

 

Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

 

I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

 

Subhash Ektare

 

 

, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > KP lovers.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > >>

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Dear Friends,

Is Mars Dosha in KP?

1. Is Mars Dosha in KP to say it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP?

a) Is there any practical example by Guruji KSK reminding Mars Dosha?

b) What Shri Shanmugam says about Mars Dosha?

c) Does Shri Bhatt mention anything about Mars dosha?

d) Any other well known KP astrologer who says about Mars Dosha?

e) Is there anything said in the 4 step about Mars Dosha?

f) Any statistical study for the existance of Mars Dosha in KP?

2. It's free to believe it or not.

Practical Study

3. Shri Raichur's study is that if Mars Dosha is found in multi-marriage charts, it's supposed that Mars Dosha has effect on multi-marrige. Pl note in 52 charts (out of 100) there was NO Mars Dosha.

4. In the study of Kanak and Rangarajan it is found that in 103 one-time marrige charts, 15 charts (15/103x100= 14.56%) satisfies R1, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R1 is found in 15 charts out of 103; 47 charts (45.63%) satisfies R2, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R2 is found in 47 charts; zero chart (zero%) satisfies R3, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R3 is not found in any chart; 2 charts (1.94%) satisfies R4, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R4 is found in 2 charts; -------; 3charts (2.91%) satisfies R10, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R10 is found in 3 charts; 4 charts (3.88%) satisfies R11, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R11 is found in 4 charts out of 103.

5. It is a simple testing of rule by rule 1 to 11 in 103 charts how each rule is satisfied or how Mars Dosha as per each rule is found. The most satisfied rule is R2 (45.63%) and the least satisfied rule is R3 (zero %).

6. By adding the satisfied results of R1 to R11 and saying 86.4% is satisfied for Mars Dosha means satisfied for all R1 to R11 which does not make sense.

7. The most satisfied rule is R2. Mars Dosha as per R2 is found in 47 (45.63% ) of one-marrige charts 103. But such Mars Dosha as per R2 is found only in 10 charts (38.46%) of two-marriage charts 26 and 5 charts (33.33%) of five-marriage 15 charts. The higher rate is found only in 17 charts (73.91%) of four-marrige 23 charts. It is not found in 5 charts of six-seven-nine-marriage charts. That is why such Mars Dosha does not effect single or multi marriage, i.e. nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

Bottom line

8. The study is whether Mars Dosha is the cause of multi-marrige only. A practical KP study of Mars Dosha on marrige will be a great contribution to KP.

Thanks and regards,

tw

 

 

 

 

, "Subhash" <subhash_ektare wrote:>> > Dear Members,> > I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP> principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have> analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one> marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on.> > In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that:> > Quote> > "When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if> a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit> "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™> program for a manual interpretation of the results."> > Unquote.> > From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see> whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The> analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the> natives.> > My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:> > 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%,> R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all> (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one> rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may> satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).> > 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage> of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.> > 3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage> of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)> > 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage> of Mars Dosha is 86.68%> > So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as> claimed.> > > > I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to> "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research> needs to be done….(message # 15390)> > > > Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His> observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there> was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha.> (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also> had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for> occurrence of dosha.> > > > Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the> conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi> marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars> Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.> > > > I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar> ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am> wrong with their valued opinion.> > > > Subhash Ektare> > > > > > > , "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> >> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> > is entirely different from Punarphoo.> >> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> >> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> > T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> >> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in> KP> > )> >> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> > behind it?> >> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> >> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw863,> > > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments...> > > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> > mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> > made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> > given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear tw853,> > > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> > > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > > had passed similar> > > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> > > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too> > > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > > to be done...> > > > With best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > >> > > >> > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > > reasons:> > > >> > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > > left> > > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > > provided> > > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > > of> > > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > > significator> > > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > > >> > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > > Dosha-> > > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > > Mars> > > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > > not suit our modern age.> > > >> > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > > house> > > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > > suggestion> > > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.> > > >> > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > > Dosha,> > > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > > whims> > > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > > run> > > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > > which> > > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > > the> > > > public who suffers.> > > >> > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > > Multi-> > > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > > in> > > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.> > > >> > > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > > single> > > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > > Dosha> > > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > > >> > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > > >> > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > > KP lovers.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > > >> >>

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Dear Mr.Subhash Ektare,

Mars Dosha does exist...regardless of what Tin Win and Kanak observations have been... I am RESTATING below the K.P. position...

Mars in Sun's star,or own star,and occupying the houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII,alone can cause Mars Dosha...

I hope unless more properly designed studies are performed I stand by the K.P. position...

Wishing you the very best,

L.Y.Rao.

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

 

Subhash <subhash_ektare Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 5:02:03 AM Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

 

 

Dear Members,

I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on.

In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that:

Quote

"When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel â„¢ program for a manual interpretation of the results."

Unquote.

From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives.

My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:

1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).

2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed.

 

I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done….(message # 15390)

 

Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha.

 

Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

 

I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

 

Subhash Ektare

 

 

@gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your

comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > of the tested

TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > appeared on the scene to dismiss all

doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > deposited

in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > Dosha like adding more

fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10%

only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > KP lovers.> > >> >

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Dear Sirs,Excuse me for the interruption.In 2002, Shri K.Hariharan of Chennai, as the Chief Guest of our 3rd Anniversary function of our "PAVARS" association in Salem, when questioned by me on this "Mars Dosha", replied:"There is nothing called 'Mars Dosha' in real effect, certainly not as the traditional astrologers and the public believe it to be. It has nothing to do with the life span of the couples as it is assumed wrongly."I again said, "Sir, you say that, but the consulting public are so scared of it to take our point. How to convince them?"He answered me: "As KP astrologers, it is our duty to explain

them. Keep telling them repeatedly. It may take time. May be after 50 years from now, people will realise slowly what is what. You can try showing them evidences to support our idea. That is how we should take it to public for betterment."Yes, I took his words to the heart. And I have been advising my clients accordingly since then. With thanks and warm regards,MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English TutorAdvanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006Cell: 99443-07025Subhash <subhash_ektare Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:02:03 AM Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

 

Dear Members, I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on. In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that: Quote "When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual interpretation of the results." Unquote. From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives. My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows: 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time). 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%. 3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above) 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68% So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed. I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done…..(message # 15390) Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha. Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha. I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion. Subhash Ektare

 

 

@gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl.

read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11

charts (15.94%)out> > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam>

> appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or

the sublord is> > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12"..> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with

Mars> > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post......In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38

charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for>

> > KP lovers.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > >>

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Dear tw853

If the 7th sub lord is placed in a dual sign and its star is placed in dual sign or Mer.acts as above the native goes for multiple marriages.

Where does Mars dosha appear here.

Particularly if Mars is lord of 7th sub ,he being not a dual sign lord , upholds only single marriage.

Hence mars dosha cannot be a cause for dual marriage.

Again in the case the study dual married people could have had Mars dosha,which is certainly not relevant that Mars dosha ppl would go for dual marriage.

Thanks

Regards

tkp ghopal--- On Fri, 10/24/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

tw853 <tw853 Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 3:28 AM

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

Is Mars Dosha in KP?

1. Is Mars Dosha in KP to say it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP?

a) Is there any practical example by Guruji KSK reminding Mars Dosha?

b) What Shri Shanmugam says about Mars Dosha?

c) Does Shri Bhatt mention anything about Mars dosha?

d) Any other well known KP astrologer who says about Mars Dosha?

e) Is there anything said in the 4 step about Mars Dosha?

f) Any statistical study for the existance of Mars Dosha in KP?

2. It's free to believe it or not.

Practical Study

3. Shri Raichur's study is that if Mars Dosha is found in multi-marriage charts, it's supposed that Mars Dosha has effect on multi-marrige. Pl note in 52 charts (out of 100) there was NO Mars Dosha.

4. In the study of Kanak and Rangarajan it is found that in 103 one-time marrige charts, 15 charts (15/103x100= 14.56%) satisfies R1, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R1 is found in 15 charts out of 103; 47 charts (45.63%) satisfies R2, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R2 is found in 47 charts; zero chart (zero%) satisfies R3, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R3 is not found in any chart; 2 charts (1.94%) satisfies R4, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R4 is found in 2 charts; -------; 3charts (2.91%) satisfies R10, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R10 is found in 3 charts; 4 charts (3.88%) satisfies R11, i.e. Mars Dosha as per R11 is found in 4 charts out of 103.

5. It is a simple testing of rule by rule 1 to 11 in 103 charts how each rule is satisfied or how Mars Dosha as per each rule is found. The most satisfied rule is R2 (45.63%) and the least satisfied rule is R3 (zero %).

6. By adding the satisfied results of R1 to R11 and saying 86.4% is satisfied for Mars Dosha means satisfied for all R1 to R11 which does not make sense.

7. The most satisfied rule is R2. Mars Dosha as per R2 is found in 47 (45.63% ) of one-marrige charts 103. But such Mars Dosha as per R2 is found only in 10 charts (38.46%) of two-marriage charts 26 and 5 charts (33.33%) of five-marriage 15 charts. The higher rate is found only in 17 charts (73.91%) of four-marrige 23 charts. It is not found in 5 charts of six-seven-nine- marriage charts. That is why such Mars Dosha does not effect single or multi marriage, i.e. nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

Bottom line

8. The study is whether Mars Dosha is the cause of multi-marrige only. A practical KP study of Mars Dosha on marrige will be a great contribution to KP.

Thanks and regards,

tw

 

 

 

 

@gro ups.com, "Subhash" <subhash_ektare@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Members,> > I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP> principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have> analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one> marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on.> > In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that:> > Quote> > "When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if> a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit> "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™> program for a manual interpretation of the results."> > Unquote.> > From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see> whether Mars Dosha Rules

listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The> analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the> natives.> > My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:> > 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%,> R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all> (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one> rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may> satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).> > 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage> of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.> > 3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage> of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)> > 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall

percentage> of Mars Dosha is 86.68%> > So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as> claimed.> > > > I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to> "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research> needs to be done….(message # 15390)> > > > Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His> observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there> was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha.> (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also> had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for> occurrence of dosha.> > > > Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the> conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or

multi> marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars> Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.> > > > I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar> ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am> wrong with their valued opinion.> > > > Subhash Ektare> > > > > > > @gro ups.com, "tw853" tw853@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> >> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> > is entirely different from Punarphoo.> >> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> >> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> > T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this

group)> >> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in> KP> > )> >> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> > behind it?> >> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> >> > Thanks and regards,> >> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw863,> > > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments...> > > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> > mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> > made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> > given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > > With best

wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > Regards,> > >> > > tw> >

>> > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear tw853,> > > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > > had passed similar> > > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> > > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too> > > early to "totally write off" Mars

Dosha...A lot more research needs> > > to be done...> > > > With best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > >> > > >> > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > > reasons:> > > >> > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > > left> > > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > > provided> > > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > > of> > > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > > deposited in a constellation,

the lord of which is the> > > significator> > > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > > >> > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > > Dosha-> > > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > > Mars> > > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > > not suit our modern age.> > > >> > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > > house> > > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > > suggestion> > > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with

another one with Mars> > > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.> > > >> > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > > Dosha,> > > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > > whims> > > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > > run> > > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > > which> > > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > > the> > > > public who suffers.> > > >> > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > > Multi-> > > >

marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > > in> > > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.> > > >> > > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > > single> > > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > > Dosha> > > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > > >> > >

> 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > > >> > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > > KP lovers.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > > >> >>

[Guest guest]

That is why it's said on the bais of hundred charts, Mars Dosha is

nothing to do with multimarriage.

 

If one can, pl show us how Mars Dosha effects marriage with support

of practical charts to convince it is in KP.

 

 

, Tkp Ghopal <astrogopalji_tkp

wrote:

>

> Dear tw853

> If the 7th sub lord is placed in a dual sign and its star is placed

in dual sign or Mer.acts as above the native goes for multiple

marriages.

> Where does Mars dosha appear here.

> Particularly if Mars is lord of 7th sub ,he being not a dual sign

lord , upholds only single marriage.

> Hence mars dosha cannot be a cause for dual marriage.

> Again in the case the study dual married people could have had Mars

dosha,which is certainly not relevant that Mars dosha ppl would go

for dual marriage.

> Thanks

> Regards

> tkp ghopal

>

> --- On Fri, 10/24/08, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

> tw853 <tw853

> Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

>

> Friday, October 24, 2008, 3:28 AM

>

Dear Friends,

> Is Mars Dosha in KP?

> 1. Is Mars Dosha in KP to say it is too early to   " totally write

off " Mars Dosha from KP?

> a) Is there any practical example by Guruji KSK reminding Mars

Dosha?

> b) What  Shri Shanmugam says about Mars Dosha?

> c) Does Shri Bhatt mention anything about Mars dosha?

> d) Any other well known KP astrologer who says about Mars Dosha?

> e) Is there anything said in the 4 step about Mars Dosha?

> f) Any statistical study for the existance of Mars Dosha in KP?

> 2. It's free to believe it or not.

> Practical Study 

> 3. Shri Raichur's study is that if Mars Dosha is found in multi-

marriage charts, it's supposed that Mars Dosha has effect on multi-

marrige. Pl note in 52 charts (out of 100) there was NO Mars Dosha.

> 4. In the study of Kanak and Rangarajan it is found that in 103 one-

time marrige charts, 15 charts (15/103x100= 14.56%) satisfies R1,

i.e. Mars Dosha as per R1 is found in 15 charts out of 103; 47 charts

(45.63%) satisfies R2, i.e.  Mars Dosha as per R2 is found in 47

charts; zero chart (zero%) satisfies R3, i.e.  Mars Dosha as per R3

is not found in any chart; 2 charts (1.94%) satisfies R4, i.e.  Mars

Dosha as per R4 is found in 2 charts; -------; 3charts (2.91%)

satisfies R10, i.e.  Mars Dosha as per R10 is found in 3 charts; 4

charts (3.88%) satisfies R11, i.e.  Mars Dosha as per R11 is found

in 4 charts out of 103.

> 5. It is a simple testing of rule by rule 1 to 11 in 103 charts how

each rule is satisfied or how Mars Dosha as per each rule is found.

The most satisfied rule is R2 (45.63%) and the least satisfied rule

is R3 (zero %).

> 6. By adding the satisfied results of R1 to R11 and saying 86.4% is

satisfied for Mars Dosha means satisfied for all R1 to R11 which does

not make sense. 

> 7. The most satisfied rule is R2. Mars Dosha as per R2 is found in

47 (45.63% ) of one-marrige charts 103. But  such Mars Dosha as per

R2  is found only in 10 charts (38.46%) of two-marriage charts 26 and

5 charts (33.33%) of five-marriage 15 charts. The higher rate is

found only in 17 charts (73.91%) of four-marrige 23 charts. It

is  not found in 5 charts of six-seven-nine- marriage charts. That is

why such Mars Dosha does not effect single or multi marriage, i.e.

nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

> Bottom line

> 8. The study is whether Mars Dosha is the cause of multi-marrige

only. A practical KP study of Mars Dosha on marrige will be a great

contribution to KP.

> Thanks and regards,

> tw

>  

>  

>  

>  

>

>

> @gro ups.com, " Subhash " <subhash_ektare@ ...>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > I have gone through the Article " Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP

> > principles " in the file section. In this article the authors have

> > analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103

having one

> > marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so

on.

> >

> > In the " Analysis Methodology " it is clearly mentioned that:

> >

> > Quote

> >

> > " When looking at each chart, the program would emit " yes " if

> > a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit

> > " no " . The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™

> > program for a manual interpretation of the results. "

> >

> > Unquote.

> >

> > From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see

> > whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or

not. The

> > analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the

> > natives.

> >

> > My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as

follows:

> >

> > 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in

14.56%,

> > R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all

> > (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per

one

> > rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may

> > satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one

time).

> >

> > 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall

percentage

> > of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

> >

> > 3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage

> > of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

> >

> > 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage

> > of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

> >

> > So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as

> > claimed.

> >

> >

> >

> > I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to

> > " totally write off " Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research

> > needs to be done….(message # 15390)

> >

> >

> >

> > Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His

> > observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts

there

> > was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated

Dosha.

> > (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur

also

> > had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for

> > occurrence of dosha.

> >

> >

> >

> > Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to

the

> > conclusion that " Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi

> > marriage. " This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars

> > Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

> >

> >

> >

> > I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji,

Gondhalekar

> > ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me

if I am

> > wrong with their valued opinion.

> >

> >

> >

> > Subhash Ektare

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > @gro ups.com, " tw853 " tw853@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear L.Y.Rao,

> > >

> > > Firstly, the book " Punarphoo " is nothing to do with " Mars

Dosha " which

> > > is entirely different from Punarphoo.

> > >

> > > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that

> > >

> > > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by

> > > T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)

> > >

> > > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New

Horizons in

> > KP

> > > )

> > >

> > > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the

reason

> > > behind it?

> > >

> > > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear tw863,

> > > > Pl. read the book " Punarphoo " and then give your comments...

> > > > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars

Dosha,as

> > > mentioned by me, " cannot be found in K.P. literature " , should

not be

> > > made,because if the reference page number and the name of the

book is

> > > given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...

> > > > With best wishes,

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: " Mars in own star or in Sun star, and

occupying

> > > > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12 " in the study on " Analysis of Mars

Dosa as

> > > > per KP Principles " by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file

section' of

> > > > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is

> > > > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB

AA-

> > > > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts

(15.94%)out

> > > > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts,

indicating such

> > > > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi

lyrastro1@

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate

> > > > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is

occupying

> > > > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...

> > > > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same

> > > > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...

> > > > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers

> > > > had passed similar

> > > > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "

> > > > Punarphoo " written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam

> > > > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...

> > > > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too

> > > > early to " totally write off " Mars Dosha...A lot more research

needs

> > > > to be done...

> > > > > With best wishes,

> > > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > > Dear All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following

> > > > reasons:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of opinion,

> > > > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is

not

> > > > left

> > > > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

> > > > provided

> > > > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the

sublord

> > > > of

> > > > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the

sublord is

> > > > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the

> > > > significator

> > > > > of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his

article " Mars

> > > > Dosha-

> > > > > A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to

conclude that

> > > > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless

without

> > > > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects

received by

> > > > Mars

> > > > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars

Dosha does

> > > > > not suit our modern age.

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that

when a

> > > > house

> > > > > is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with

> > > > suggestion

> > > > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with

Mars

> > > > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in

fire.

> > > > >

> > > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars

> > > > Dosha,

> > > > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to

their

> > > > whims

> > > > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public

pushed to

> > > > run

> > > > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is

given

> > > > which

> > > > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally

it is

> > > > the

> > > > > public who suffers.

> > > > >

> > > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated

100

> > > > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for

the

> > > > Multi-

> > > > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated

Dosha

> > > > in

> > > > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

> > > > >

> > > > > 6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP

Principles " by

> > > > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group,

the 11

> > > > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated

103

> > > > single

> > > > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd

rule

> > > > > of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and

occupying

> > > > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%) single-

marriage

> > > > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating

Mars

> > > > Dosha

> > > > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be

helpful for

> > > > > KP lovers.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > tw

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click

here.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Also pl refer Msg#1303 0f this group.

 

 

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Subhash Ektare,

>

                                   

    Mars Dosha does exist...regardless of what Tin Win and Kanak

observations have been... I am RESTATING below the K.P. position...

>

                                   

    Mars in Sun's star,or own star,and occupying the houses

I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII,alone can cause Mars Dosha...

>

                                   

    I hope unless more properly designed studies are performed I

stand by the K.P. position...

>

                                   

    Wishing you the very best,

>

                                   

     L.Y.Rao.

>

                                   

                     GOOD LUCK !

>   

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Subhash <subhash_ektare

>

> Friday, 24 October, 2008 5:02:03 AM

> Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

>

>

> Dear Members,

> I have gone through the Article " Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP

principles " in the file section. In this article the authors have

analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having

one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so

on.

> In the " Analysis Methodology " it is clearly mentioned that:

> Quote

> " When looking at each chart, the program would emit " yes " if a

particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit " no " . The

result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel â„¢ program for a manual

interpretation of the results. "

> Unquote.

> From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see

whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not.

The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the

natives.

> My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:

> 1.     In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied

in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus

in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as

per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts

may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one

time).  

> 2.     In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall

percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

> 3.     In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall

percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

> 4.     In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall

percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

> So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as

claimed.

>  

> I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early

to " totally write off " Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs

to be done….(message # 15390)

>  

> Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His

observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there

was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated

Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr.

Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha

but only for occurrence of dosha.

>  

> Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to

the conclusion that " Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or

multi marriage. " This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of

Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

>  

> I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji,

Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please

correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

>  

> Subhash Ektare

>

>  

>  

> @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear L.Y.Rao,

> >

> > Firstly, the book " Punarphoo " is nothing to do with " Mars Dosha "

which

> > is entirely different from Punarphoo.

> >

> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that

> >

> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by

> > T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)

> >

> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons

in KP

> > )

> >

> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the

reason

> > behind it?

> >

> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear tw863,

> > > Pl. read the book " Punarphoo " and then give your comments...

> > > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars

Dosha,as

> > mentioned by me, " cannot be found in K.P. literature " , should not

be

> > made,because if the reference page number and the name of the

book is

> > given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...

> > > With best wishes,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: " Mars in own star or in Sun star, and

occupying

> > > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12 " in the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa

as

> > > per KP Principles " by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file

section' of

> > > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is

> > > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-

> > > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)

out

> > > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating

such

> > > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate

> > > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying

> > > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...

> > > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same

> > > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...

> > > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers

> > > had passed similar

> > > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "

> > > Punarphoo " written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam

> > > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...

> > > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too

> > > early to " totally write off " Mars Dosha...A lot more research

needs

> > > to be done...

> > > > With best wishes,

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following

> > > reasons:

> > > >

> > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of opinion,

> > > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not

> > > left

> > > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

> > > provided

> > > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the

sublord

> > > of

> > > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the

sublord is

> > > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the

> > > significator

> > > > of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

> > > >

> > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article " Mars

> > > Dosha-

> > > > A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude

that

> > > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without

> > > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received

by

> > > Mars

> > > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha

does

> > > > not suit our modern age.

> > > >

> > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a

> > > house

> > > > is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with

> > > suggestion

> > > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with

Mars

> > > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in

fire.

> > > >

> > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars

> > > Dosha,

> > > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their

> > > whims

> > > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed

to

> > > run

> > > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given

> > > which

> > > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it

is

> > > the

> > > > public who suffers.

> > > >

> > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100

> > > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the

> > > Multi-

> > > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated

Dosha

> > > in

> > > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

> > > >

> > > > 6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP

Principles " by

> > > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the

11

> > > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103

> > > single

> > > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd

rule

> > > > of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and

occupying

> > > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%) single-

marriage

> > > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars

> > > Dosha

> > > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

> > > >

> > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.

> > > >

> > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be

helpful for

> > > > KP lovers.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click

here.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

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> > >

> >

>

>

>

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Let me add Msg#1303 as follows:

 

 

Mars Dosha...! ? Message List

 

Reply | Forward Message #1303 of 20491 < Prev | Next >

 

Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:41 am

 

Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1

 

Dear Members,

 

As per Traditional Astrology various

Treatises, Textbooks & Magazines etc., all seem to

give a multiplicity of rules,for " MARS DOSHA " ,and

insist on predicting dire consequences,such that,it is

extremely confusing and as good as saying that ALL of

us,as per one " rule " or the other are " covered " under

Mars Dosha...and face dire consequences...!

 

IN REAL LIFE,THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN...

 

KRISHNAMURTHI PADHDHATI IS VERY CLEAR :

 

1) A person's marital status can be

weakened or separation caused ONLY by two houses that

are malefic to marriiage and married life...the VIth &

the XIIth.

 

2) In the girl's chart the lord of the

VIIth should NOT be in any way,connected with VIth &

XIIth houses of the boy's chart.

 

3) Similarly,in a boy's chart,the lord

of the VIIth should NOT be in any way,connected with

the VIth & XIIth houses of the girl's chart...

 

Added to this,the other important

analysis of longevity,children,health etc., while

matching of horoscopes,will certainly enable to give a

happy married life to the couple...

If,the VIIth lord is connected to the

VIth & XIIth,even when " NO 'Mars dosha'exists " ,married

life will become a veritable " hell-on-earth " ...! !

 

Traditional Astrology only serves to

INSTILL an EXAGGERATED AND NON EXISTING FEAR of MARS

DOSHA...and some astrologers also prescribe all sorts

of 'shantis' and 'remedies' which only strain the

purse of most innocent victims...

 

(Ref:Astrosecrets & K.P.,by K.Subramaniam,pp 39-45.)

 

GOOD LUCK !

 

 

 

 

 

, Mohan Kumar Ragunathan

<kpmk_astrology wrote:

>

> Dear Sirs,

> Excuse me for the interruption.

>

> In 2002, Shri K.Hariharan of Chennai, as the Chief Guest of our 3rd

Anniversary function of our " PAVARS " association in Salem, when

questioned by me on this " Mars Dosha " , replied:

> " There is nothing called 'Mars Dosha' in real effect, certainly

not as the traditional astrologers and the public believe it to be.

It has nothing to do with the life span of the couples as it is

assumed wrongly. "

>

> I again said, " Sir, you say that, but the consulting public are so

scared of it to take our point. How to convince them? "

>

> He answered me: " As KP astrologers, it is our duty to explain them.

Keep telling them repeatedly. It may take time. May be after 50 years

from now, people will realise slowly what is what. You can try

showing them evidences to support our idea. That is how we should

take it to public for betterment. "

>

> Yes, I took his words to the heart. And I have been advising my

clients accordingly since then.

>

> With thanks and warm regards,

>

> MK (Mohan Kumar.R.)

> Scientific Astrologer & Spoken English Tutor

> Advanced Stellar Astrology Research Academy (KP based)

> 219/84, Moongapadi St.,Gugai, SALEM - 636 006

> Cell: 99443-07025

>

>

>

>

> Subhash <subhash_ektare

>

> Friday, October 24, 2008 5:02:03 AM

> Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

>

>

> Dear Members,

> I have gone through the Article " Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP

principles " in the file section. In this article the authors have

analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having

one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so

on.

> In the " Analysis Methodology " it is clearly mentioned that:

> Quote

> " When looking at each chart, the program would emit " yes " if a

particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit " no " . The

result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual

interpretation of the results.. "

> Unquote.

> From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see

whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not..

The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the

natives.

> My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:

> 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in

14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in

all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per

one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may

satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).

> 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall

percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

> 3.. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall

percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

> 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall

percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

> So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as

claimed.

>

> I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early

to " totally write off " Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs

to be done….(message # 15390)

>

> Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His

observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there

was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated

Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr.

Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha

but only for occurrence of dosha.

>

> Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to

the conclusion that " Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or

multi marriage. " This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of

Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

>

> I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji,

Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please

correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

>

> Subhash Ektare

>

>

>

> @gro ups.com, " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear L.Y.Rao,

> >

> > Firstly, the book " Punarphoo " is nothing to do with " Mars Dosha "

which

> > is entirely different from Punarphoo.

> >

> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that

> >

> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by

> > T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)

> >

> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons

in KP

> > )

> >

> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the

reason

> > behind it?

> >

> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear tw863,

> > > Pl. read the book " Punarphoo " and then give your comments...

> > > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars

Dosha,as

> > mentioned by me, " cannot be found in K.P. literature " , should not

be

> > made,because if the reference page number and the name of the

book is

> > given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...

> > > With best wishes,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: " Mars in own star or in Sun star, and

occupying

> > > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12 " in the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa

as

> > > per KP Principles " by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file

section' of

> > > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is

> > > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-

> > > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)

out

> > > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating

such

> > > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate

> > > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying

> > > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...

> > > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same

> > > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...

> > > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers

> > > had passed similar

> > > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "

> > > Punarphoo " written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam

> > > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...

> > > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too

> > > early to " totally write off " Mars Dosha....A lot more research

needs

> > > to be done...

> > > > With best wishes,

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following

> > > reasons:

> > > >

> > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of opinion,

> > > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not

> > > left

> > > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

> > > provided

> > > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the

sublord

> > > of

> > > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the

sublord is

> > > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the

> > > significator

> > > > of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

> > > >

> > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article " Mars

> > > Dosha-

> > > > A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude

that

> > > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without

> > > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received

by

> > > Mars

> > > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha

does

> > > > not suit our modern age.

> > > >

> > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a

> > > house

> > > > is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with

> > > suggestion

> > > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with

Mars

> > > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in

fire.

> > > >

> > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars

> > > Dosha,

> > > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their

> > > whims

> > > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed

to

> > > run

> > > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given

> > > which

> > > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it

is

> > > the

> > > > public who suffers.

> > > >

> > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100

> > > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the

> > > Multi-

> > > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated

Dosha

> > > in

> > > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

> > > >

> > > > 6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP

Principles " by

> > > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the

11

> > > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103

> > > single

> > > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd

rule

> > > > of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and

occupying

> > > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%) single-

marriage

> > > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars

> > > Dosha

> > > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

> > > >

> > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.

> > > >

> > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be

helpful for

> > > > KP lovers.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click

here.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India.

> > >

> >

>

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raichur anant mumbai--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Subhash <subhash_ektare wrote:Subhash <subhash_ektare Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:02 AM

Dear Members, I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on. In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that: Quote "When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual interpretation of the results." Unquote. From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives. My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows: 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time). 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%. 3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above) 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68% So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed. I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done….(message # 15390) Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha. Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha. I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion. Subhash Ektare

 

 

, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your

comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > of the tested

TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > appeared on the scene to dismiss all

doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > deposited

in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > Dosha like adding more

fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10%

only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > KP lovers.> > >> >

> Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > >>

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dear sirplease remember thtt a Marsa Dosa creates 'obstruion before/during or with a yeat of marriajeraichur anant mumbai--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Subhash <subhash_ektare wrote:Subhash <subhash_ektare Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:02 AM

Dear Members, I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on. In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that: Quote "When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual interpretation of the results." Unquote. From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives. My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows: 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time). 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%. 3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above) 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68% So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed. I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done….(message # 15390) Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha. Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha. I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion. Subhash Ektare

 

 

, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your

comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > of the tested

TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > appeared on the scene to dismiss all

doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > deposited

in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > Dosha like adding more

fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10%

only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > KP lovers.> > >> >

> Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > >>

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Those who discuss Mars, Dosha must first, in clear terms, define what

exactly this Dosh is.

sujatkaram. , Raichur-a-r

<raichurar wrote:

>

> dear sir

> please remember thtt a Marsa Dosa creates 'obstruion before/during

or with a yeat of marriaje

>

> raichur anant mumbai

>

> --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Subhash <subhash_ektare wrote:

> Subhash <subhash_ektare

> Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

>

> Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:02 AM

>

>

>

Dear Members,

> I have gone through the Article " Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP

principles " in the file section. In this article the authors have

analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having

one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so

on.

> In the " Analysis Methodology " it is clearly mentioned that:

> Quote

> " When looking at each chart, the program would emit " yes " if a

particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit " no " . The

result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual

interpretation of the results. "

> Unquote.

> From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see

whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not.

The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the

natives.

> My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as

follows:

> 1.     In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in

14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in

all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per

one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may

satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).  

> 2.     In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall

percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

> 3.     In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall

percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1

above)

> 4.     In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall

percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

> So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as

claimed.

>  

> I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early

to " totally write off " Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs

to be done….(message # 15390)

>  

> Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His

observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there

was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated

Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr.

Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha

but only for occurrence of dosha.

>  

> Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to

the conclusion that " Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or

multi marriage. " This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of

Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

>  

> I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji,

Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please

correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

>  

> Subhash Ektare

>

>  

>  

> , " tw853 " <tw853@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear L.Y.Rao,

> >

> > Firstly, the book " Punarphoo " is nothing to do with " Mars Dosha "

which

> > is entirely different from Punarphoo.

> >

> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that

> >

> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by

> > T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)

> >

> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons

in KP

> > )

> >

> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the

reason

> > behind it?

> >

> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?

> >

> > Thanks and regards,

> >

> > tw

> >

> > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear tw863,

> > > Pl. read the book " Punarphoo " and then give your comments...

> > > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars

Dosha,as

> > mentioned by me, " cannot be found in K.P. literature " , should not

be

> > made,because if the reference page number and the name of the

book is

> > given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...

> > > With best wishes,

> > > L.Y.Rao.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > Dear All,

> > >

> > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: " Mars in own star or in Sun star, and

occupying

> > > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12 " in the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa

as

> > > per KP Principles " by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file

section' of

> > > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is

> > > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-

> > > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)

out

> > > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating

such

> > > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > tw

> > >

> > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear tw853,

> > > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate

> > > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying

> > > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...

> > > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same

> > > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...

> > > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers

> > > had passed similar

> > > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "

> > > Punarphoo " written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam

> > > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...

> > > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too

> > > early to " totally write off " Mars Dosha...A lot more research

needs

> > > to be done...

> > > > With best wishes,

> > > > L.Y.Rao.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:

> > > > Dear All,

> > > >

> > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following

> > > reasons:

> > > >

> > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: " To cause difference of opinion,

> > > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not

> > > left

> > > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect

> > > provided

> > > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the

sublord

> > > of

> > > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the

sublord is

> > > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the

> > > significator

> > > > of 6 or 10 or 12 " .

> > > >

> > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article " Mars

> > > Dosha-

> > > > A Myth " (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude

that

> > > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without

> > > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received

by

> > > Mars

> > > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha

does

> > > > not suit our modern age.

> > > >

> > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: " Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a

> > > house

> > > > is in fire, we throw water and send. " does not agree with

> > > suggestion

> > > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with

Mars

> > > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in

fire.

> > > >

> > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars

> > > Dosha,

> > > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their

> > > whims

> > > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed

to

> > > run

> > > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given

> > > which

> > > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it

is

> > > the

> > > > public who suffers.

> > > >

> > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100

> > > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the

> > > Multi-

> > > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated

Dosha

> > > in

> > > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.

> > > >

> > > > 6) In the study on " Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP

Principles " by

> > > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the

11

> > > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103

> > > single

> > > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd

rule

> > > > of " Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and

occupying

> > > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12 " is significant for 47 (46%) single-

marriage

> > > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars

> > > Dosha

> > > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.

> > > >

> > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.

> > > >

> > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be

helpful for

> > > > KP lovers.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > tw

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click

here.

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India.

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Friends,

 

2 cents worth of info from personal experience. Over 2 yrs ago,I was sifting thru various horoscopes of young ladies , whilst checking for my elder son. My son was 34 then, so the ladies were in late 20s or earlier 30 s. In most case it showed prominently 2 things.

 

1. Delayed marriages,Mars had its contribution.

 

2. Excellent qualifications,particularly in Engg/IT.Additionally they were career oriented.

 

My son did not have so called Mars Dosha.Was married end '06.

 

 

Regards,

 

Satish

 

--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Raichur-a-r <raichurar wrote:

Raichur-a-r <raichurarRe: Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 6:43 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

dear sirplease remember thtt a Marsa Dosa creates 'obstruion before/during or with a yeat of marriaje

raichur anant mumbai--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:

Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP@gro ups.comFriday, October 24, 2008, 5:02 AM

 

Dear Members,

I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on.

In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that:

Quote

"When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual interpretation of the results."

Unquote.

From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives.

My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:

1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).

2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed.

 

I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done….(message # 15390)

 

Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha.

 

Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

 

I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

 

Subhash Ektare

 

 

@gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give

your comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > of the

tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > appeared on the scene to dismiss

all doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > >

deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > Dosha like

adding more fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10

charts, ie.10% only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > KP lovers.> >

>> > > Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > >>

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Respected Raichur ji,

 

Thanks for the reply and your opinion.

Sir, I agree with you totally. This means you are also of opinion that Mars Dosha exists in KP.

And it has some effects as enumerated by you. But in the article under consideration the

authers have concluded that there is no mars dosha in KP. In fact the article deals with

occurance of Mars Dosha only and not its effects. Mars dosha cannot be written off on the

analysis based on its occurance or existance in any number of charts.That is why Mr. LYR Lajmi ji

observed that "to write off" Mars Dosha totally....more research needs to be done.

 

Regards

Subhash ektare

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:13:05 AMRe: Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

 

 

 

 

 

dear sirplease remember thtt a Marsa Dosa creates 'obstruion before/during or with a yeat of marriaje

raichur anant mumbai--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:

Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP@gro ups.comFriday, October 24, 2008, 5:02 AM

 

Dear Members,

I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on.

In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that:

Quote

"When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual interpretation of the results."

Unquote.

From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives.

My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:

1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).

2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed.

 

I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done….(message # 15390)

 

Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha.

 

Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

 

I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

 

Subhash Ektare

 

 

@gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your

comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > of the tested

TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > appeared on the scene to dismiss all

doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > deposited

in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > Dosha like adding more

fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10%

only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > KP lovers.> > >> >

> Regards,> > >> > > tw> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ---> > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > >>

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Pl refer 11 Rules defined in the research article.

 

, "sujatkaram" <sujatkaram wrote:>> Those who discuss Mars, Dosha must first, in clear terms, define what > exactly this Dosh is.> sujatkaram. , Raichur-a-r > raichurar@ wrote:> >> > dear sir> > please remember thtt a Marsa Dosa creates 'obstruion before/during > or with a yeat of marriaje> > > > raichur anant mumbai> > > > --- On Fri, 10/24/08, Subhash subhash_ektare@ wrote:> > Subhash subhash_ektare@> > Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP> > > > Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:02 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP > principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have > analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having > one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so > on. > > In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that: > > Quote > > "When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a > particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The > result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual > interpretation of the results." > > Unquote. > > From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see > whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. > The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the > natives. > > My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as > follows: > > 1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in > 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in > all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per > one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may > satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time). > > 2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall > percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%. > > 3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall > percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 > above) > > 4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall > percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68% > > So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as > claimed. > > > > I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early > to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs > to be done….(message # 15390) > > > > Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His > observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there > was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated > Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. > Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha > but only for occurrence of dosha. > > > > Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to > the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or > multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of > Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha. > > > > I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, > Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please > correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion. > > > > Subhash Ektare> > > > > > > > , "tw853" <tw853@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > > > > > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" > which> > > is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > > > > > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > > > > > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> > > T.R.RAGHUNATH-MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > > > > > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons > in KP> > > )> > > > > > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the > reason> > > behind it?> > > > > > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > > > > > Thanks and regards,> > > > > > tw> > > > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear tw863,> > > > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your comments...> > > > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars > Dosha,as> > > mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not > be> > > made,because if the reference page number and the name of the > book is> > > given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > > > With best wishes,> > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and > occupying> > > > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa > as> > > > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file > section' of> > > > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > > > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > > > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)> out> > > > of the tested TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating > such> > > > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> > > >> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > tw> > > >> > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear tw853,> > > > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > > > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > > > houses I,II,IV,VII,VIII & XII...> > > > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > > > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > > > had passed similar> > > > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > > > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > > > appeared on the scene to dismiss all doubts...> > > > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn't it too> > > > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research > needs> > > > to be done...> > > > > With best wishes,> > > > > L.Y.Rao.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > > > Dear All,> > > > >> > > > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > > > reasons:> > > > >> > > > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > > > left> > > > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > > > provided> > > > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the > sublord> > > > of> > > > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the > sublord is> > > > > deposited in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > > > significator> > > > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > > > >> > > > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > > > Dosha-> > > > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude > that> > > > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received > by> > > > Mars> > > > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha > does> > > > > not suit our modern age.> > > > >> > > > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > > > house> > > > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > > > suggestion> > > > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with > Mars> > > > > Dosha like adding more fire to a house which is already in > fire.> > > > >> > > > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > > > Dosha,> > > > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > > > whims> > > > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed > to> > > > run> > > > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > > > which> > > > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it > is> > > > the> > > > > public who suffers.> > > > >> > > > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > > > Multi-> > > > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated > Dosha> > > > in> > > > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10% only.> > > > >> > > > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP > Principles" by> > > > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the > 11> > > > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > > > single> > > > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd > rule> > > > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and > occupying> > > > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-> marriage> > > > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > > > Dosha> > > > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > > > >> > > > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > > > >> > > > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be > helpful for> > > > > KP lovers.> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > tw> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Chat on a cool, new interface. No download required. Click > here.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > Find a mall, hotel or ATM in any part of India. > > > >> > >> >>

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i agree. raichur anant mumbai--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektare wrote:Subhash Ektare <subhash_ektareRe: Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 3:46 AM

Respected Raichur ji,

 

Thanks for the reply and your opinion.

Sir, I agree with you totally. This means you are also of opinion that Mars Dosha exists in KP.

And it has some effects as enumerated by you. But in the article under consideration the

authers have concluded that there is no mars dosha in KP. In fact the article deals with

occurance of Mars Dosha only and not its effects. Mars dosha cannot be written off on the

analysis based on its occurance or existance in any number of charts.That is why Mr. LYR Lajmi ji

observed that "to write off" Mars Dosha totally....more research needs to be done.

 

Regards

Subhash ektare

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Raichur-a-r <raichurar Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 6:13:05 AMRe: Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP

 

 

 

 

 

dear sirplease remember thtt a Marsa Dosa creates 'obstruion before/during or with a yeat of marriaje

raichur anant mumbai--- On Fri, 10/24/08, Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > wrote:

Subhash <subhash_ektare@ > Re: NO MARS DOSHA IN KP@gro ups.comFriday, October 24, 2008, 5:02 AM

 

Dear Members,

I have gone through the Article "Analysis of Mars Dosha as per KP principles" in the file section. In this article the authors have analyzed 172 charts in all. Out of these charts there are 103 having one marriage, 26 having 2 marriages and 23 having 4 marriages and so on.

In the "Analysis Methodology" it is clearly mentioned that:

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"When looking at each chart, the program would emit "yes" if a particular rule was satisfied on the chart, or would emit "no". The result was then loaded into Miscosoft Excel ™ program for a manual interpretation of the results."

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From this it is very clear that these charts were analyzed to see whether Mars Dosha Rules listed in the Article are satisfied or not. The analysis, in no way, deals with the effects of Mars Dosha on the natives.

My interpretation of the analysis in the said Article is as follows:

1. In case of 103 single marriage charts, R1 is satisfied in 14.56%, R2 is satisfied in 45.63%, R4 in 1.94% etc and so on. Thus in all (adding all percentages) in 86.4% charts Mars Dosha exists as per one rule or other. (This % may be little less because some charts may satisfy more than one rule and may get counted more than one time).

2. In case of 26 charts having two marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosh is 65.4%.

3. In case of 23 charts having 4 marriages, the overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 117.4% (Please refer note in para 1 above)

4. In case of 15 charts having 5 marriages this overall percentage of Mars Dosha is 86.68%

So about 86% of charts are having Mars Dosha and not 14% or so as claimed.

 

I totally agree with Mr. L Y R Lajmi ji that it is too early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha from KP. A lot more research needs to be done….(message # 15390)

 

Mr. A. R. Raichur has also studied 100 foreign born charts. His observation was in 52 charts there was Mars Dosha, in 38 charts there was mitigated Dosha and in 10 charts only there was unmitigated Dosha. (Refer Point 5 of Message # 15375). Please note that Mr. Raichur also had not analyzed the charts for effects of Mars Dosha but only for occurrence of dosha.

 

Further referring to message # 15375, point 6, I do not agree to the conclusion that "Mars Dosha has nothing to do with single or multi marriage." This is because analysis deals with Occurrence of Mars Dosha and does not deal with the Effects of Mars Dosha.

 

I will request respected Mr. A.R. Raichur ji, LYR Lajmi ji, Gondhalekar ji and Tin Win ji and other learned members to please correct me if I am wrong with their valued opinion.

 

Subhash Ektare

 

 

@gro ups.com, "tw853" <tw853 wrote:>> > Dear L.Y.Rao,> > Firstly, the book "Punarphoo" is nothing to do with "Mars Dosha" which> is entirely different from Punarphoo.> > Secondly, already said in Msg#20423 that> > 1. This rule is not taught by Guruji KSK but written by by> T.R.RAGHUNATH- MADRAS-44. (Pl refer Msg#10694 of this group)> > (in page 240, Astrosecretc & KP Part II, 2003, under New Horizons in KP> )> > Now the real question is why author considers SUN? What is the reason> behind it?> > Do you know? Could you kindly expalin us?> > Thanks and regards,> > tw> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> wrote:> >> > Dear tw863,> > Pl. read the book "Punarphoo" and then give your

comments...> > Also,making such sweeping statements that details of Mars Dosha,as> mentioned by me,"cannot be found in K.P. literature", should not be> made,because if the reference page number and the name of the book is> given,TW you'll cut a sorry figure...> > With best wishes,> > L.Y.Rao.> >> >> >> >> > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > Dear All,> >> > Mars Dosha Rule 1: "Mars in own star or in Sun star, and occupying> > any of 1,2,4,7,8 or 12" in the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as> > per KP Principles" by Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of> > this Group 'cannot be found' in the KP literature, and it is> > significant for only 15 charts (14.56%)out of the tested TOB AA-> > rated 103 single marriage charts and for only 11 charts (15.94%)out> > of the tested

TOB AA-rated 69 multi-marriage charts, indicating such> > Mars Dosha has 'nothing to do' with single or multi marriage.> >> > Regards,> >> > tw> >> > @gro ups.com, Yogesh Rao Lajmi lyrastro1@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear tw853,> > > Mars Dosha,as per K.P., is seen to operate> > when, Mars occupies Sun's star,or his own star,and is occupying> > houses I,II,IV,VII, VIII & XII...> > > Earlier also,I had voiced this same> > opinion...when Raichur and Kanak had written about it...> > > If you remember,in the past,many astrologers> > had passed similar> > > opinions about Punarphoo Yoga...but eventually, a book "> > Punarphoo" written by Shri Vaikari Ramamurthi & K.Subramaniam> > appeared on the scene to dismiss all

doubts...> > > In my humble opinion therefore,isn' t it too> > early to "totally write off" Mars Dosha...A lot more research needs> > to be done...> > > With best wishes,> > > L.Y.Rao.> > >> > >> > > tw853 tw853@ wrote:> > > Dear All,> > >> > > Mars Dosha is not valid in KP on the basis of the following> > reasons:> > >> > > 1) KP Reader IV page 69: "To cause difference of opinion,> > > disagreement, dispute, divorce etc. among the couple it is not> > left> > > to Mars alone, any planet can cause such undesirable effect> > provided> > > they happen to be deposited in such a position, that the sublord> > of> > > the planet is the significator of 6 or 10 or 12 or the sublord is> > > deposited

in a constellation, the lord of which is the> > significator> > > of 6 or 10 or 12".> > >> > > 2) N. Sarangan quoted the above statement in his article "Mars> > Dosha-> > > A Myth" (KP & Astrology Year Book 2002, page 48) to conclude that> > > the traditional ideas about Mars Dosha are meaningless without> > > taking into consideration of the beneficial aspects received by> > Mars> > > from other planets, its stellar position etc, and Mars Dosha does> > > not suit our modern age.> > >> > > 3) KP Reader VI page 319: "Prof. Krishnamurti says that when a> > house> > > is in fire, we throw water and send." does not agree with> > suggestion> > > for a native with Mars Dosha to marry with another one with Mars> > > Dosha like adding more

fire to a house which is already in fire.> > >> > > 4) Astrosecrets & KP, Part 1 (Sri Shanmugam}: Regarding Mars> > Dosha,> > > naturally, each one will have their own say according to their> > whims> > > and fancies, and due to this it is the general public pushed to> > run> > > from pillar to post.....In several ways a prediction is given> > which> > > has neither clarity nor a systematic approach etc. Finally it is> > the> > > public who suffers.> > >> > > 5) Shri Raichur has found in a study on the TOB AA- rated 100> > > foreign born charts of multi-marriages Kanak had used for the> > Multi-> > > marriage study that no Marsl Dosha in 52 charts, mitigated Dosha> > in> > > 38 charts and unmitigated Dosha in 10 charts, ie.10%

only.> > >> > > 6) In the study on "Analysis of Mars Dosa as per KP Principles" by> > > Kanak and Rangarajan in the `file section' of this Group, the 11> > > rules of Mars Dosha have been tested for the TOB AA-rated 103> > single> > > marriage charts and 69 multi-marriage charts. Only the 2nd rule> > > of "Any planet deposited in the star or sub of Mars, and occupying> > > 1, 2, 4, 7, 8 or 12" is significant for 47 (46%) single-marriage> > > charts and for 34 (49%) multi-marriage charts, indicating Mars> > Dosha> > > has nothing to do with single or multi marriage.> > >> > > 7) No other attention has been given in the KP literature.> > >> > > Any `particular' experience of learned members will be helpful for> > > KP lovers.> > >> >

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