Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 no they are not poor by wealth. regards. sanjay rathod " bina.vyas " <bina.vyas wrote: Dear Wendy, Respected Swamy, One unusual thought has come to my mind.Please share your views. All Marines & Land solders who remain away from their loved ones,(i call this isolation ) fight war & many times they become depressed looking at disasters created by themselves. Due to this they go in sever depression. Will most of this solders or some of them have KEMDRUM YOGA? jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > ///It is absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology./// > > I certainly agree with this! What I question is their (all too often) > erroneous application which occurs, in my opinion, due to ignorance of the > fundamental principles. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:11 AM > Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Dear Vyas, > > I agree with you to the extent that nothing goes unmanifested. It is > absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology. There is no doubt that one should consider the existence > of a yoga and then its cancellation. Even a yoga is gets cancelled, > certainly there exists some inherent weakness in a particular area.. > The question is how strong the manifestation is or would be? The > point is that one should not press the panic button unnecessarily. > There are more than 10 conditions attached to this yoga for its > cancellation. Hence in most of the charts, in one way or the other, > the yoga gets cancelled. The main idea is that the student should in > first place know all exceptions before pronouncing the results for a > combination. > > See the dispositor of Moon in rashi chart. See the position of Moon > in Navamsa. Note the Navamsa dispositor of Moon and his condition. > If they are in a good position, much of the intensity of the results > attributed to this yoga is minimized. At what age one is going to > enjoy the dasha of Moon. > > The results which are more practical in a day to day life of > unsupported Moon in a chart are irritation, frustration in mild form > and depression in a severe case. When it happens? It happens > when the transit Moon goes to 8th from the radical Moon. Malefic > transits like Astama Sani or Kantaka Sani or Sade-Sathi then one feel > himself or herself being isolated. > > Swamy. > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Dear Bina Vyas, We should distinguish between emotional and physical isolation/separation. We should also consider Moon's lordship and house position before speculating on possible results. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " bina.vyas " <bina.vyas <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 6:46 PM Re: kemdrum yoga Dear Wendy, Respected Swamy, One unusual thought has come to my mind.Please share your views. All Marines & Land solders who remain away from their loved ones,(i call this isolation ) fight war & many times they become depressed looking at disasters created by themselves. Due to this they go in sever depression. Will most of this solders or some of them have KEMDRUM YOGA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 They do not have kemyoga sure. sanjay sanjay sanjay <sanaloe64 wrote: no they are not poor by wealth. regards. sanjay rathod " bina.vyas " <bina.vyas wrote: Dear Wendy, Respected Swamy, One unusual thought has come to my mind.Please share your views. All Marines & Land solders who remain away from their loved ones,(i call this isolation ) fight war & many times they become depressed looking at disasters created by themselves. Due to this they go in sever depression. Will most of this solders or some of them have KEMDRUM YOGA? jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Swamy, > > ///It is absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology./// > > I certainly agree with this! What I question is their (all too often) > erroneous application which occurs, in my opinion, due to ignorance of the > fundamental principles. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > jyotish-vidya > ___ > > > - > " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar > <jyotish-vidya > > Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:11 AM > Re: kemdrum yoga > > > Dear Vyas, > > I agree with you to the extent that nothing goes unmanifested. It is > absolutely right that yogas are the important area in Hindu > Astrology. There is no doubt that one should consider the existence > of a yoga and then its cancellation. Even a yoga is gets cancelled, > certainly there exists some inherent weakness in a particular area.. > The question is how strong the manifestation is or would be? The > point is that one should not press the panic button unnecessarily. > There are more than 10 conditions attached to this yoga for its > cancellation. Hence in most of the charts, in one way or the other, > the yoga gets cancelled. The main idea is that the student should in > first place know all exceptions before pronouncing the results for a > combination. > > See the dispositor of Moon in rashi chart. See the position of Moon > in Navamsa. Note the Navamsa dispositor of Moon and his condition. > If they are in a good position, much of the intensity of the results > attributed to this yoga is minimized. At what age one is going to > enjoy the dasha of Moon. > > The results which are more practical in a day to day life of > unsupported Moon in a chart are irritation, frustration in mild form > and depression in a severe case. When it happens? It happens > when the transit Moon goes to 8th from the radical Moon. Malefic > transits like Astama Sani or Kantaka Sani or Sade-Sathi then one feel > himself or herself being isolated. > > Swamy. > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Know how! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Prashant ji, Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly one year my junior! :-) On a more serious front, I do not believe much in yogas--I think that an understanding of the significances of grahas and their house lordship is more important than looking at yogas. ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = income or less./// The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th lord Chandra. ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by gods help , one of my business client and my mom's brother sponsered me to do my higher study in Australia./// This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord would have implied that you would have had to struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th [overseas journeys]. ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we had an affair for 4 -5 years/// You broke up when you were around 29, right? This would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. I am sure that some of the problems you have faced--especially those relating to loneliness and isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors too have had a hand. ~~~~~~~~~ Balaji Narasimhan Author & Editor http://www.balaji.ind.in/ ~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________\ ____ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Dear Balaji, Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do not work,at times, though apparently they should. Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy task, but to predict for future, is, what is required. that comes by experience of years. regards, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > Prashant ji, > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > one year my junior! :-) > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > more important than looking at yogas. > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > income or less./// > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > lord Chandra. > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > Australia./// > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > would have implied that you would have had to > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > [overseas journeys]. > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > too have had a hand. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Dear balaji, Rahu takes away what it gives. What is the autheticity of this statement ? I mean the classical authenticity and not individual opinion. I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. Such statements scare me and would scare others. Please explain with quotes from classics. regards, Bhaskar. -- In jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Balaji, > > Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us > Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should > believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga > not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, > as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. > > If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do > not work,at times, though apparently they should. > > Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any > doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future > is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. > To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy > task, but to predict for future, is, > what is required. > > that comes by experience of years. > > regards, > Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > Prashant ji, > > > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > > one year my junior! :-) > > > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > > more important than looking at yogas. > > > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > > income or less./// > > > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > > lord Chandra. > > > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > > Australia./// > > > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > > would have implied that you would have had to > > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > > [overseas journeys]. > > > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > > too have had a hand. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > Balaji Narasimhan > > Author & Editor > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Bhaskar, Rahu+Mars I have seen in the charts of many celebrities and athletes. You have Mars in Leo with Rahu, Mars is Raj Yoga Karak too. Assuming you have passed through Mars dasha before Rahu dasha, how was this period for you? Gain of property, logn travels? Rich. jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear balaji, > > Rahu takes away what it gives. > What is the autheticity of this statement ? > I mean the classical authenticity and not individual > opinion. > I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. > Such statements scare me and would scare others. > Please explain with quotes from classics. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > -- In jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Balaji, > > > > Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us > > Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should > > believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga > > not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, > > as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. > > > > If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do > > not work,at times, though apparently they should. > > > > Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any > > doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future > > is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. > > To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy > > task, but to predict for future, is, > > what is required. > > > > that comes by experience of years. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > Prashant ji, > > > > > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > > > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > > > one year my junior! :-) > > > > > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > > > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > > > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > > > more important than looking at yogas. > > > > > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > > > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > > > income or less./// > > > > > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > > > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > > > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > > > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > > > lord Chandra. > > > > > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > > > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > > > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > > > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > > > Australia./// > > > > > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > > > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > > > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > > > would have implied that you would have had to > > > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > > > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > > > [overseas journeys]. > > > > > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > > > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > > > > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > > > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > > > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > > > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > > > > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > > > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > > > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > > > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > > > too have had a hand. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > Balaji Narasimhan > > > Author & Editor > > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, ///Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should believe in them./// The internet is a very poor medium for conversations as misunderstandings can easily develop if we haven't followed a particular thread from its beginning. I'm quite sure Balaji was simply referring to the many conversations we've had here about the need to fully understand the conditions that can render a yoga ineffective. It's a bad practice to interpret a chart based on yogas learnt parrot-fashion and not fully understood... ///Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy task, but to predict for future, is, what is required./// It's good that you brought up the comparison with doctors as I'm sure you'd agree no group of doctors would offer medical advice on a public forum. It would be highly unethical and unbeneficial for the patient to receive so many, often conflicting, opinions. A doctor takes full responsibility for the ongoing care of his patients as should the astrologer take responsibility for the care of those seeking his advice. A public forum is not the place for this! The alarming trend today of jyotish students practicing their skills by offering free readings on these open forums is bringing this divine science into disrepute. Those looking for free readings often show great disrespect towards the astrologer whilst astrologers frequently argue amongst themselves in an effort to gain some recognition. Jyotish-Vidya is, and will remain, a discussion forum for astrologers and students of astrology wishing to further their understanding of jyotish through meaningful discussion with one another. Those wishing a personal reading should seek a personal consultation with a professional astrologer. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish <jyotish-vidya > Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:27 AM Re: kemdrum yoga Dear Balaji, Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do not work,at times, though apparently they should. Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy task, but to predict for future, is, what is required. that comes by experience of years. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 Dear Prashu, Thank you for sharing this information with us! Balaji has given a good response and (hopefully) other members may wish to comment some more on Moon's isolation...as will I as soon as time permits. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " Prashant Doshi " <prashuastro <jyotish-vidya > Friday, June 15, 2007 12:08 PM Re: Re: kemdrum yoga Dear Wendy ji, Sorry for the delay in replying as i was busy with office work. Ok here it is yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = income or less. I have got this kemdrum yog , and my moon is in the 8th house with nothing before and after the moon. At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we had an affair for 4 -5 years , In this four to five years , i spent everything i had , and also my family had .Secondly ,i had not finished my education so did not get a job.Ihad started business but every deal i do , would give me money , but on the other hand i would have expenses more then the income. When my affair ended( Very badly) , and when i sat and saw back ,i felt , i have nothing , noo money , no degree, and no saving . Had lost everything . There was a time when we had no money in our house , and no food too. But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by gods help , one of my business client and my mom's brother sponsered me to do my higher study in Australia.Even when i came to australia , i had no money except for eating and travelling , and uni fees. But time passed and one things was that i was able to clear my bank loan which i had to take from the bank to come to Australia. Even today there is debts for me to clear . No matter how much work i do , in the end i have debts to pay. I have seen a lot of people get some stable strong income which last for 20 -30 years ,which make them stable and self sufficient. I wonder thoughs people are luck atleast they dont have to worrry Pls feel free to ask question , i would shurely answer it Thanking you Prashu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear List, Where is Kemadruma Yoga in this chart? It is said that presence of planets in angles from the lagna leads to cancellation of Kemadruma yoga, in classics. In the chart under consideration, Mercury, Jupiter and Sun are placed in Lagna. Mars is located in an angle from lagna in the 4th house. Lagna is treated as an angle; it is the instruction of Parashara. It is said that presence of planets in angles from the moon leads to cancellation of Kemadruma yoga, in classics. In the chart under consideration, Saturn is placed in the 10th house from Moon. When Moon is located in his friendly sign and aspected by Jupiter leads to cancellation of kemadurma yoga, in classics. Mercury is placed in the sign of Mercury and aspected by Jupiter from his own sign. It is considered that Moon is inherently weak when it is not supported by planets from either side of her. Here Moon is located in 8th house from lagna and the Mercury being retro goes to Lagna leads balarishta situation. Lagna Lord Saturn is with a malefic Kethu in 5th house. The individual enjoyed the dasha of Moon at this birth for roughly about three and half years. The individual has been bailed out of that situation because of the presence of natural benefic Jupiter in lagna. At the most the individual could have suffered from primary complexes which he can't even remember now. At the most one can attribute the results regarding the state of lack of money at his disposal etc. etc. to the placement of Jupiter from Moon in 8th. Jupiter's placement from Moon in 6th, 8th and 12th causes to rise Shakata yoga. The results generally attributed to this yoga are one has to toil always, indigent, and having fluctuating fortunes. Strictly speaking, Jupiter should not be in a Kendra to cause this Shakata Yoga. Here when reckoned from Moon he is in 6th house, but in a Kendra reckoned from lagna. The lordship of Jupiter in this chart are the gains, accumulated savings etc. etc. Considering these significations and his placement from Moon (in 6th house of struggles) with 8th lord Mercury from lagna, one can very well justify the situation of the individual regarding his finances. I wish to draw attention of the members to From Lagna, Mars the 10th lord aspects his own house. From Lagna Saturn and 5th lord exchange their houses but this 5th lord owns the 8th house too. From Moon, 6th and 10th lord exchange their houses. In D-10, Jupiter the 6th lord moves to 10th house. 8th lord Saturn from Lagna aspects the 10th house. Swamy. PS: I do not understand the statement freely used in the jyotish lists that of, what Rahu gives would be taken by himself at the end of his own Dasha.??? Can anybody bother to throw light on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 PS:I wrote in my earlier message. >>>>>When Moon is located in his friendly sign and aspected by Jupiter leads to cancellation of kemadurma yoga, in classics. Mercury is placed in the sign of Mercury and aspected by Jupiter from his own sign.>>>>> Please read as: When Moon is located in his friendly sign and aspected by Jupiter leads to cancellation of kemadurma yoga, in navamsa, in classics. Moon isplaced in the sign of Mercury and aspected by Jupiter from his own sign in navamsa. Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, Would you please share your experience/chart in more details? Placement and aspects of Rahu are also very important. How was the previous, Mars MD? Regards, Anna Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear balaji, Rahu takes away what it gives. What is the autheticity of this statement ? I mean the classical authenticity and not individual opinion. I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. Such statements scare me and would scare others. Please explain with quotes from classics. regards, Bhaskar. -- In jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Balaji, > > Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us > Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should > believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga > not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, > as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. > > If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do > not work,at times, though apparently they should. > > Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any > doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future > is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. > To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy > task, but to predict for future, is, > what is required. > > that comes by experience of years. > > regards, > Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > Prashant ji, > > > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > > one year my junior! :-) > > > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > > more important than looking at yogas. > > > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > > income or less./// > > > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > > lord Chandra. > > > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > > Australia./// > > > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > > would have implied that you would have had to > > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > > [overseas journeys]. > > > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > > too have had a hand. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > Balaji Narasimhan > > Author & Editor > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ________ > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Anna, Thanks for your interest. My chart is not easy to judge. I am aware of the nuances involved when judging the results of Nodes. I check the results of the Nodes- Rahu/Ketu in following way normally, before delineating the results of the same. (SACR -Star of Node, Aspects to Node, Conjunction with Node and Raashi or Sign in which Node placed). Details- Rahu in which Cusp. (Results of this placement) Constellation Lord of Rahu placed where (Results) and Lord of which Cusps . (Results) Aspect to Rahu (Not from Rahu, but to Rahu) Planet aspecting placed in which cusp (results) and Lord of which Cusps . (Results). and its constellational results. Planet in conjunction with Rahu (I only prefer 4 degrees Conjunction). Lord of which houses , and of course its constellational results again. Finally Sign in which Node is placed. The Lord of the sign, its Lordship over which other house, and of course its constellational effects. The proper mix of above can only give the results of the Nodes . I have found this method as the most effective in my few years of serious study of astrology. In My Chart- Rahu in Leo 06.41.33 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha. Mars in Leo 06.19.02 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha If I tell you the results of Mars Mahadasha , then probably the same may be taken for Rahu , which may be right, or may not be. If one has to solve the puzzle,then no clues should come, apart from my method which I use above. I will let you know how I have derived my own results for Rahu Mahadasha, using above method, with Placidus House division , but later on. Since KP or Placidus is not spoken on this Forum, I will need permission from Mrs. Wendy to do so., for this individual case. My Birth details. 28th June 1961. Time- 10.14am Place- Eluru (Andhra Pradesh- India) Latitude -16.45 North Long. 81.09 E Ascendant - Leo 15.52.04 Not a single person on these Forums, has been able to give me correct results for Rahu, nor the few who are considered the best in Indian Nakshatra padhaty. Its not a good signal, that those few, who are solving blind charts,and apparently can predict within half an hour to a incident on these blind charts, fail miserably, when it comes to Live Chart of Live person, and on such a broad timed MahaDasha like Rahu, where none of them have to predict for upto one day, but for 18 years general prediction, but they could, since it considered the Nodes. I had done some extensive research on Nodes, only because I was going to face this Dasha in my Life, thus I got to the crux, otherwise probably not spent much time like the others. Still we are not impeccable. But at least some beginning has been made. Let me also confess here, that among all the Astrological Forums , which number I think, around 300, if at all I value anyones comment on my Chart , then it would be Mrs Wendy's among , all the astrologers in these. She is the only sincere and honest, and aware , hardworking astrologer I ever met on any forum. Okay now my chart is game for You. Please shoot. Await to hear from you, what Rahu MahaDasha would give me. Will it make me, or break me ? All are invited to comment, those who wish to, of course. Best wishes, Bhaskar. jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > Would you please share your experience/chart in more details? Placement and aspects of Rahu are also very important. How was the previous, Mars MD? > Regards, > Anna > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear balaji, > > Rahu takes away what it gives. > What is the autheticity of this statement ? > I mean the classical authenticity and not individual > opinion. > I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. > Such statements scare me and would scare others. > Please explain with quotes from classics. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > -- In jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Balaji, > > > > Yogas have been made by the same persons who have given us > > Lordships of houses and their significances. So we should > > believe in them. You should search for the reason of the Yoga > > not manisfesting in the life of the native, in your own self, > > as a astrologer,rather than, not believeing in Yogas. > > > > If you are open minded I can tell you the reason why they do > > not work,at times, though apparently they should. > > > > Another point, postmartem on dead bodies is possible by any > > doctor, but to forecast what can happen to the native in future > > is, a feat which is a pre-requisite of a astrologer. > > To connect a past event with astrological pointers is an easy > > task, but to predict for future, is, > > what is required. > > > > that comes by experience of years. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , Balaji Narasimhan > > <sherlockbalaji@> wrote: > > > > > > Prashant ji, > > > > > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > > > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > > > one year my junior! :-) > > > > > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > > > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > > > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > > > more important than looking at yogas. > > > > > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > > > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > > > income or less./// > > > > > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > > > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > > > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > > > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > > > lord Chandra. > > > > > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > > > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > > > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > > > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > > > Australia./// > > > > > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > > > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > > > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > > > would have implied that you would have had to > > > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > > > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > > > [overseas journeys]. > > > > > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > > > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > > > > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > > > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > > > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > > > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > > > > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > > > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > > > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > > > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > > > too have had a hand. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > Balaji Narasimhan > > > Author & Editor > > > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative > > vehicles. Visit the Auto Green Center. > > > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Answers. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2007 Report Share Posted June 16, 2007 Dear Balaji, Pranam, Very good interpretation Appreciated ,but i would like to say 5 cent of my knowledge. 1)Rahu in 11th , in guru nakshatra and guru lord of 2nd and the 11th , with its Mahadasa running , would definitely make a difference. Venus in the 12th house is the one of the good house Venus can be,but it is bad with respect ot extra marital affairs. Mer and Sat are in parivartan, which also indicate Sat is in Kumbha , and lord of its own house making a powerful parivartan involving lagna lord. Kemedum Yoga is brings poverty or u can say makes one start life from Zero , but , it does that only once in a life time. As u can see rahu in 11th , indicates alot of friends ,and rahu in labhesh means labh from friends. Also with KP sYSTEM rAHU IS IN 10TH HOUSE, indicating very high Professional like . With respect ot loneliness , I would like to say one thing, Yes i feel little lonely , or u can say , i dont trust any one,that's y i don't have best friend . I have heaps of friends , but no best friend .But i do a lot of Bhakti and i believe in god alot which helps me survive in this world. Usually i have heard , that if rahu dasa is bad, then the Jup dasa is good. Yes rahu took away every thing it gave . EX: 1) My gf gone 2) We had a shop ,this shop was my total source of income thought it was on my mom;s name but i used to take money from there got sold off as we needed money. 3) I lost alot of friends as soon as my rahu dasa was going to end . It was not that we had a fight but each one went in their own way. If you would like to discuss more , and exchange your views , I would be very happy, to do so. Pls dont feel offended with my opinion , I may be wrong , this is what i known from my knowledge. Will wait for your reply mate. Kind Regards Prashu On 6/15/07, Balaji Narasimhan <sherlockbalaji wrote: > > Prashant ji, > > Though your mail is addressed to Wendy ji, I thought I > would have a look--after all, you are almost exactly > one year my junior! :-) > > On a more serious front, I do not believe much in > yogas--I think that an understanding of the > significances of grahas and their house lordship is > more important than looking at yogas. > > ///yes there has alway been a shortage of money in my > house alway , No matter what we will have expenses = > income or less./// > > The lord of the 2nd is in the 12th from the 2nd in > Rahu's star. The 2nd and the 11th are afflicted by the > aspect of Sani, the lord of the 12th. The lord of the > 9th house of luck is in the 12th, in the star of 6th > lord Chandra. > > ///But becuase of the break up and shortage of cash , > made me stronger and made me finish my degree, and by > gods help , one of my business client and my mom's > brother sponsered me to do my higher study in > Australia./// > > This is indicated by the presence of 9th lord [higher > education/long distance travel] Sukra in the 12th > [stay abroad]. Sukra's presence in star of 6th lord > would have implied that you would have had to > struggle. But the 6th also rules maternal uncle, and > the lord of the 6th is in own star in the 8th > [overseas journeys]. > > ///At the age of 24 i fell in love with a female , we > had an affair for 4 -5 years/// > > You broke up when you were around 29, right? This > would have been around 2003, when Rahu's MD ended, > right? Rahu takes away what he gives. In your chart, > he is in the star of Ketu, aspected by 12th lord Sani. > > I am sure that some of the problems you have > faced--especially those relating to loneliness and > isolation--can be traced back to Kemadruma Yoga. But, > in the main, as can be seen, a lot of other factors > too have had a hand. > > ~~~~~~~~~ > Balaji Narasimhan > Author & Editor > http://www.balaji.ind.in/ > ~~~~~~~~~ > > ________ > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. > Visit the Auto Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, With due regards and respect to everybody, the dasha results (malefic side) of Rahu are overemphasized. No astrologer is perfect here. He or she can't claim that he or she understood the Parashara completely. I am talking in a general tone and not of any particular astrologer in these lists. My teacher once said, " after 60 years of practising astrology and who is known world wide, he understood the techniques of Parashara only to the extent of 3 per cent and the least understood planets are the nodes " (meaning thereby they are not easily understandable how they behave). What to talk of others. That is why I always prefer to remain a silent member of these lists since very long and never try to contest what they write. If you write anything they would say it is a futile exercise. It is waste of your time, energy and your money spending on the bandwidth. They are absolutely right. Now I realize. At times there are good points rarely you can get in these lists. It is my dasha and transit that they support me that I have to communicate (write) and get into arguments. Once it is over (the dasha) I would stop writing. Once I said this in the list of Andrew, he got annoyed and even he closed his list long ago. Now Goravani followed suit for the best reasons known to him. (Of course Andrew and Goravani are astrologers in their own right). I recall one of my friends words now " get away when you are not comfortable in a place rather than contesting and arguing " because the astrologers are the most egoistic persons available on this planet and it applies to me also. One says Rahu has no spiritual side. This is the most objectionable and ludicrous sweeping statement ever I have heard about Rahu; though I contested it was unnoticed by everybody in this forum including the moderator. Read Bhavartha Ratnakara, you would know the spiritual side of Rahu. Even people scared of talking of Indira Gandhi during her Rahu periods about her visible political activities. But certain astrologers do not know how the spiritual side of Rahu manifested in her life silently, during those periods. Nehru was always opposing and condemning astrology openly, when Rahu manifested he started keeping the Gita under his pillow. Every planet has to give its dahsa results or (their significations) according to its placement, aspects on them and their conjunctions. We know well, nodes have certain special rules. The mutual placement of planets from Rahu during a particular period matters much. Of course, the dasha chidra always play the game when a malefic dasha is to end and a benefic dasha to start (status of natural benefics which I am talking of). Which are the significations is meant to be used for a particular person in a chart during the dasha of a planet. To find out that one needs patience and experience, that is the trick of this game. It is not possible to teach this knack through these lists. You have to attain it. Your own chart and dasha should support it. Read Sarvartha chintamani – the word used for him is " Chattrakaraka " . How this book treats Rahu as an excellent planet in certain ways. See how valuable points are given in that treatise to interpret him. Read Uttra Kalamirta – what are the significations given to Rahu and how to interpret them? Though Jatakabharanam does not deal with the results of dasha of Rahu in various houses but it gives valuable clues. It is highly pertinent to quote here, one clue in regard to the chart of Parasu is that " Rahu in the 3rd, 6th and 11th houses aspected by benefics is strongly protective. ( I doubt even that gentlemen read my message about his chart.) If I elaborate this area another controversy of aspects on node would start. I can't afford to argue. In that instant chart there is no kemadruma and Rahu is placed in 11th and aspected by Malefic Mars. What would be the result? It is obvious. Why blame Rahu? Mars clearly says make your self-efforts if you want to rise in your professional area and subsequently get your gains. See the Saturn and Jupiter's placement and what they say about the 7th house affairs. Who are they aspecting the 7th house. What are the results? Why blame Rahu? Why at all Rahu has given the affairs in his dasha in the first place? What is the role of Moon in this? One should try to understand this first and come to a conclusion with the help of the very accepted principles and less controversial points attached to Rahu. See the effect of this sweeping statement. At the first instance you yourself scared and stated in one of the messages, you are worried of Rahu's major period because of the sweeping statement. Another member already scared of Rahu's Sub-period in the Jupiter's major period regarding the separation of his partner from him. No sweeping statement such as this recent one (about Rahu) should be made blindly which can create unnecessary fear in the mind of the reader. Every chart is different from one another as no two persons behave alike. Do not worry much about your Rahu major period. I already enjoyed my Rahu and Jupiter major periods. Don't panic. Don't take the rules literally and apply them liberally with your commonsense considering the changing times. I do not write my observations on your chart simply because you have already expressed a sort of misconceived notion about the sincerity and honesty of the astrologers present in this forum except one. Swamy. jyotish-vidya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Anna, > > Thanks for your interest. > My chart is not easy to judge. > > I am aware of the nuances involved when judging the > results of Nodes. I check the results of the Nodes- > Rahu/Ketu in following way normally, > before delineating the results of the same. > > (SACR -Star of Node, Aspects to Node, Conjunction > with Node and Raashi or Sign in which Node placed). > > Details- > Rahu in which Cusp. (Results of this placement) > Constellation Lord of Rahu placed where (Results) > and Lord of which Cusps . (Results) > Aspect to Rahu (Not from Rahu, but to Rahu) > Planet aspecting placed in which cusp (results) > and Lord of which Cusps . (Results). > and its constellational results. > Planet in conjunction with Rahu (I only prefer 4 degrees > Conjunction). Lord of which houses , and of course > its constellational results again. > Finally Sign in which Node is placed. > The Lord of the sign, its Lordship over > which other house, and of course its > constellational effects. > > The proper mix of above can only give the results of > the Nodes . I have found this method as the most > effective in my few years of serious study of astrology. > > In My Chart- > Rahu in Leo 06.41.33 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha. > Mars in Leo 06.19.02 degrees in Nakshatra of Magha > > If I tell you the results of Mars Mahadasha , then probably > the same may be taken for Rahu , which may be right, or > may not be. If one has to solve the > puzzle,then no clues should come, apart from > my method which I use above. > > I will let you know how I have derived my own results > for Rahu Mahadasha, using above method, with > Placidus House division , but later on. Since > KP or Placidus is not spoken on this Forum, I will need > permission from Mrs. Wendy to do so., for this > individual case. > > My Birth details. > 28th June 1961. Time- 10.14am > Place- Eluru (Andhra Pradesh- India) > Latitude -16.45 North Long. 81.09 E > Ascendant - Leo 15.52.04 > > Not a single person on these Forums, has been able to give > me correct results for Rahu, nor the few who are considered the > best in Indian Nakshatra padhaty. Its not a good signal, > that those few, who are solving blind charts,and apparently > can predict within half an hour to a incident > on these blind charts, fail miserably, when it > comes to Live Chart of Live person, and on such a broad > timed MahaDasha like Rahu, where none of them have to > predict for upto one day, but for 18 years general > prediction, but they could, since it considered the Nodes. > > I had done some extensive research on Nodes, only because > I was going to face this Dasha in my Life, thus I got > to the crux, otherwise probably not spent much time > like the others. Still we are not impeccable. But > at least some beginning has been made. > > Let me also confess here, that among all the Astrological > Forums , which number I think, around 300, if at all > I value anyones comment on my Chart , then it would be > Mrs Wendy's among , all the astrologers in these. > She is the only sincere and honest, and aware , > hardworking astrologer I ever met on any forum. > > Okay now my chart is game for You. > Please shoot. > Await to hear from you, what Rahu MahaDasha > would give me. Will it make me, or break me ? > All are invited to comment, those who wish > to, of course. > > Best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " A.R. " <bonamente108@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Would you please share your experience/chart in more details? > Placement and aspects of Rahu are also very important. How was the > previous, Mars MD? > > Regards, > > Anna > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear balaji, > > > > Rahu takes away what it gives. > > What is the autheticity of this statement ? > > I mean the classical authenticity and not individual > > opinion. > > I am running Rahu Mahadasha and it has given me good. > > Such statements scare me and would scare others. > > Please explain with quotes from classics. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Swamy, ///I am extremely sorry if I have offended you in any way by my words. My intention was truly not that./// Everything is fine, dear Swamy. We all suffer from the same condition, called humanity, which is subject to many frailties...even saints do not escape this! I have seen Maharishi driven to anger during a television interview; and Christ's anger in the temple is yet another example of the human condition that none can entirely escape from whilst connected to this physical body. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com jyotish-vidya ___ - " muthukumaraswamydesigar " <muthukumaraswamydesigar <jyotish-vidya > Tuesday, June 19, 2007 12:11 AM Re: kemdrum yoga Dear Mrs. Wendy, >>>>This statement leaves me utterly bewildered? I'm just at a loss as to how the best of intentions can result in all these ill-feelings. However, having had no sleep whatsoever last night (with my son in emergency) and only managing to catch a couple of hours (of sleep) today,I'm more than ready to withdraw from this discussion.>>> I am extremely sorry if I have offended you in any way by my words. My intention was truly not that. Swamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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