re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

November 17, 2009

Dear Manni ji,

*Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of improvement.* As

I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted in

your chart.

In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am sure

that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both Job

and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, wrote:

> Dear Pandit Punit ji,

>

> Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear a

> rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which has a

> moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is a rud

> raksh - is this ok?

>

> My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right leg,

> vericose veins.

>

> Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at the

> begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance contract,

> on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, but this

> is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my family.

> I have been looking for a job also.

>

> What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I might

> get it?

>

> Many thanks for your help once again

>

> Manni

>

> --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>*

wrote:punitp<wrote%3Apunitp

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp

> Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab

> Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

>

> Dear Manni ji,

> As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. Till the

> time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the solution. In

> your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced by

> Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury will be

> affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your job

> affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji visiting

> your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know Mercury

> represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> Mercury’s fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are in its

> influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house get the

> first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very powerful.

> Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more badly.

> Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of Jupiter,

> it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> Perform following remedies –

> 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with Saturn due

> to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin around

> your

> neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will reduce

> your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with remedies,

> but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

>

> 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter. Moon

> in 8th house doesn’t look strong enough to me that can support Jupiter. So

> situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can give

> Moon’s support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver on

> your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of Moon’s

> placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

>

> You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform any

> remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your birth

> chart and not in annual chart.

> Hope it helps.

> Wish you all the best.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any health

> related problem recently?

>

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7reha\

l (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > Punit Pandit ji,

> >

> > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an interview

> > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> previous

> > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present job was

> > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored, then in

> mid

> > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery in a

> > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later led to

> > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> >

> > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i have

> > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due to

> start

> > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr income.

> >

> > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some of the

> > money to put down as deposit.

> >

> > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> >

> > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and shani

> > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and sun

> moving

> > from my 8th house? is this true,

> >

> > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be good in

> my

> > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> >

> > many thanks to all who help me

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in><kulbirbains%

> 40.co.in>>

>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com><lalkitab%

> 40>

>

> > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> >

> > Dear jitin;

> > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial downfall,

> he

> > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> > yes i know

> > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> >

> > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i gave

> you

> > the context to look into.

> > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to stock.

> > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> duress.

> > hope this clarifies.

> > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th house,

> it

> > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> >

> > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> >

> > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi chal,

> dos

> > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> 12houses.

> >

> > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but then

> > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive matters

> like

> > tewa darusti.

> >

> > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with saturn

> 1o

> > constructing a house and losing a job.

> >

> > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > participating;

> > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand what

> i

> > mean.

> > regards

> > kulbir

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > my thoughts??

> > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala saap "

> > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of malefic

> > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would know

> > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled by 2

> > > completely different planets.

> > >

> > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do i need

> > to

> > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani 7 (in

> > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to you.

> > >

> > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's life in

> > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at the

> > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if conjoined

> > > by enemy (sun11).

> > >

> > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing your

> > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the best in

> > > helping this native.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Jitin Syal

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> >

> > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

> > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

> HOGA

> > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN

> SAB

> > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > for further explanation

> > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

> > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> TARAH

> > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> UMADA

> > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > >

> > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > >

> > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > >

> > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

> job

> > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > >

> > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

> > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at

> > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

> we

> > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > >

> > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked

> > > me

> > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > >

> > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

> > > job??

> > > > >

> > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

> > > khana

> > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

> > > karta

> > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

> in

> > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > >

> > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> > > neither

> > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > constructing a

> > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

> > > it's

> > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > >

> > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > adversities.

> > > > >

> > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

> > > 1976, it

> > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

> it

> > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7

> > > in

> > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could

> > > be

> > > > > bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

> > > might

> > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

> > > signs of

> > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

> > > shani 9

> > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

> > > age.

> > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

> > > should

> > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i

> > > lost

> > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

November 17, 2009

Dear Sleekha Ji,

Â

I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what things

are related to saturn and rahu?

Â

We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I wear a

blue scissor chappal?

Â

I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my job.

Â

Many thanks

Â

Manni

--- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

sleekhas <sleekhas

[lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

lalkitab

Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

Â

dear mani

what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to Saturn or

rahu.

the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please get rid of

old chappal from your house,

did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some painted

flower pots or decorative glass items

regards,

leekha s.

lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sleekha ji,

> Ã‚Â

> I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> Ã‚Â

> Thanks

> Ã‚Â

> MANNI

>

> --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .> wrote:

>

> sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .>

> [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab@ s.com

> Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

>

> Ã‚Â

>

> manni ji

>

> the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period) when lots

of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was due to two

reason

>

> i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not relevent)

but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo pey.........

>

> ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

>

> this may be due to folowing

>

> this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half year

prior to job loss)

>

> keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

>

> or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of cost.

>

> annoying any labourer of blind person.

>

> please check and revert.

>

> regards,

> leekha

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL HOGA JISKA FAISLA

KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK

JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH

UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > for further explanation

> > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI KAM SE

KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE MAAN DHAN

KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA PRABHAC HOGA.

3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> >

> > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus shani in

varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> >

> > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> >

> > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he

constructs a house.?

> >

> > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that tewa

darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will. it

happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't know from

the posted message.

> >

> > now what are your thoughts?

> >

> > regards

> > kulbir

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > >

> > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked me

> > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > >

> > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's job??

> > >

> > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein khana

> > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar karta

> > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why in

> > > 33rd year.

> > >

> > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and neither

> > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after constructing a

> > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda " it's

> > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > >

> > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > adversities.

> > >

> > > what's your thoughts??

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Jitin Syal

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov 1976, it

> > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > >

> > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even it

> > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7 in

> > > varshphal.

> > > >

> > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could be

> > > bad.

> > > >

> > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir.

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > >

> > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart might

> > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows signs of

> > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with shani 9

> > > struggling in their life.

> > > > >

> > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > >

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i should

> > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i lost

> > > ,my job.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > confused.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > >

> > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > manni

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

November 17, 2009

Dear,

Â

Punit ji,

Â

Shall i wear a copper coin using white thread and then put it around my kneck,

Do you want me to remove the traingle which holds a moti, moonga and pukraj(

which has a rud raksh at the bottom of the triangle) ?

Â

Also which day shall i out this on, wednesday?

Â

I really appreciate your time and consideration, as times are hard and trying to

support family is also very hard.

Â

Thank you once again.

Â

Manni

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp

Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

lalkitab

Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

Dear Manni ji,

*Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of improvement.* As

I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted in

your chart.

In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am sure

that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both Job

and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, wrote:

>Â Â Â Dear Pandit Punit ji,

>

> Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear a

> rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which has a

> moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is a rud

> raksh -Â is this ok?

>

> My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right leg,

> vericose veins.

>

> Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at the

> begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance contract,

> on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, but this

> is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my family.

> I have been looking for a job also.

>

> What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I might

> get it?

>

> Many thanks for your help once again

>

> Manni

>

> --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>*

wrote:punitp<wrote%3Apunitp

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp

> Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab

> Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

>

>Â Â Â Dear Manni ji,

> As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. Till the

> time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the solution. In

> your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced by

> Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury will be

> affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your job

> affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji visiting

> your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know Mercury

> represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> Mercuryâ€™s fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are in its

> influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house get the

> first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very powerful.

> Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more badly.

> Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of Jupiter,

> it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> Perform following remedies â€“

> 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with Saturn due

> to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin around

> your

> neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will reduce

> your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with remedies,

> but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

>

> 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter. Moon

> in 8th house doesnâ€™t look strong enough to me that can support Jupiter. So

> situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can give

> Moonâ€™s support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver on

> your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of Moonâ€™s

> placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

>

> You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform any

> remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your birth

> chart and not in annual chart.

> Hope it helps.

> Wish you all the best.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any health

> related problem recently?

>

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7reha\

l (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > Punit Pandit ji,

> >

> > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an interview

> > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> previous

> > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present job was

> > made to senior from manager.Â i was getting bored, really bored, then in

> mid

> > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery in a

> > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later led to

> > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> >

> > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i have

> > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due to

> start

> > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr income.

> >

> > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some of the

> > money to put down as deposit.

> >

> > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> >

> > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and shani

> > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and sun

> moving

> > from my 8th house? is this true,

> >

> > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be good in

> my

> > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> >

> > many thanks to all who help me

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in><kulbirbains%

> 40.co.in>>

>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com><lalkitab%

> 40>

>

> > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> >

> > Dear jitin;

> > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial downfall,

> he

> > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> > yes i know

> > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> >

> > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i gave

> you

> > the context to look into.

> > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to stock.

> > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> duress.

> > hope this clarifies.

> > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th house,

> it

> > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> >

> > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> >

> > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi chal,

> dos

> > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> 12houses.

> >

> > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but then

> > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive matters

> like

> > tewa darusti.

> >

> > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with saturn

> 1o

> > constructing a house and losing a job.

> >

> > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > participating;

> > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand what

> i

> > mean.

> > regards

> > kulbir

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > my thoughts??

> > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala saap "

> > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of malefic

> > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would know

> > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled by 2

> > > completely different planets.

> > >

> > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do i need

> > to

> > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani 7 (in

> > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to you.

> > >

> > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's life in

> > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at the

> > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if conjoined

> > > by enemy (sun11).

> > >

> > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing your

> > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the best in

> > > helping this native.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Jitin Syal

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> >

> > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

> > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

> HOGA

> > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN

> SAB

> > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > for further explanation

> > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

> > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> TARAH

> > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> UMADA

> > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > >

> > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > >

> > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > >

> > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

> job

> > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > >

> > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

> > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at

> > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

> we

> > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > >

> > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> >Â > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked

> > > me

> > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > >

> > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

> > > job??

> > > > >

> > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

> > > khana

> > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

> > > karta

> > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

> in

> > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > >

> > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> > > neither

> > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > constructing a

> > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

> > > it's

> > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > >

> > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > adversities.

> > > > >

> > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

> > > 1976, it

> > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

> it

> > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7

> > > in

> > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could

> > > be

> > > > > bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

> > > might

> > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

> > > signs of

> > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

> > > shani 9

> > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

> > > age.

> > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

> > > should

> > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i

> > > lost

> > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

November 18, 2009

Manni Ji,

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November 18, 2009

dear manni,

i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

iii) getting jobs date already given,

upay for speeding up the process are,

i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south of your

house, for 43 days.

regards,

leekha s

lalkitab , wrote:

>

> Dear Sleekha Ji,

> Â

> I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what things

are related to saturn and rahu?

> Â

> We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I wear a

blue scissor chappal?

> Â

> I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my job.

> Â

> Many thanks

> Â

> Manni

>

> --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

>

> sleekhas <sleekhas

> [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab

> Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

>

> Â

>

> dear mani

>

> what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to Saturn or

rahu.

>

> the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please get rid

of old chappal from your house,

>

> did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some painted

flower pots or decorative glass items

>

> regards,

> leekha s.

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > Ã‚Â

> > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Thanks

> > Ã‚Â

> > MANNI

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> >

> > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab@ s.com

> > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> >

> > manni ji

> >

> > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period) when

lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was due to

two reason

> >

> > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not relevent)

but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo pey.........

> >

> > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> >

> > this may be due to folowing

> >

> > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half year

prior to job loss)

> >

> > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> >

> > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of cost.

> >

> > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> >

> > please check and revert.

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL HOGA JISKA FAISLA

KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK

JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH

UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > for further explanation

> > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI KAM SE

KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE MAAN DHAN

KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA PRABHAC HOGA.

3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > >

> > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus shani in

varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > >

> > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > >

> > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if

he constructs a house.?

> > >

> > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that tewa

darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will. it

happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't know from

the posted message.

> > >

> > > now what are your thoughts?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked me

> > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > >

> > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's job??

> > > >

> > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein khana

> > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar karta

> > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why in

> > > > 33rd year.

> > > >

> > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and neither

> > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after constructing a

> > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda " it's

> > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > >

> > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > adversities.

> > > >

> > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Jitin Syal

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov 1976, it

> > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even it

> > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7 in

> > > > varshphal.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could be

> > > > bad.

> > > > >

> > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > kulbir.

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart might

> > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows signs of

> > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with shani 9

> > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i should

> > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i lost

> > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > confused.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

November 18, 2009

Dear

Â

Leekha ji,

Â

Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you confrim this.

Â

Many thanks

Â

Manni

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

sleekhas <sleekhas

[lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

lalkitab

Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

Â

dear manni,

i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

iii) getting jobs date already given,

upay for speeding up the process are,

i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south of your

house, for 43 days.

regards,

leekha s

lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Sleekha Ji,

> Ã‚Â

> I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what things

are related to saturn and rahu?

> Ã‚Â

> We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I wear a

blue scissor chappal?

> Ã‚Â

> I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my job.

> Ã‚Â

> Many thanks

> Ã‚Â

> Manni

>

> --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .> wrote:

>

> sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .>

> [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab@ s.com

> Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

>

> Ã‚Â

>

> dear mani

>

> what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to Saturn or

rahu.

>

> the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please get rid

of old chappal from your house,

>

> did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some painted

flower pots or decorative glass items

>

> regards,

> leekha s.

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > Thanks

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > MANNI

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> >

> > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab@ s.com

> > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> >

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> >

> > manni ji

> >

> > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period) when

lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was due to

two reason

> >

> > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not relevent)

but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo pey.........

> >

> > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> >

> > this may be due to folowing

> >

> > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half year

prior to job loss)

> >

> > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> >

> > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of cost.

> >

> > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> >

> > please check and revert.

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL HOGA JISKA FAISLA

KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK

JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH

UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > for further explanation

> > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI KAM SE

KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE MAAN DHAN

KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA PRABHAC HOGA.

3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > >

> > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus shani in

varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > >

> > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > >

> > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if

he constructs a house.?

> > >

> > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that tewa

darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will. it

happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't know from

the posted message.

> > >

> > > now what are your thoughts?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked me

> > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > >

> > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's job??

> > > >

> > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein khana

> > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar karta

> > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why in

> > > > 33rd year.

> > > >

> > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and neither

> > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after constructing a

> > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda " it's

> > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > >

> > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > adversities.

> > > >

> > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Jitin Syal

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov 1976, it

> > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > >

> > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even it

> > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7 in

> > > > varshphal.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could be

> > > > bad.

> > > > >

> > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > kulbir.

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart might

> > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows signs of

> > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with shani 9

> > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i should

> > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i lost

> > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > confused.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

November 18, 2009

dear manni

if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work which is

related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also your

saturn is in house no 10th.

the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn is in

10th house.

if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn is in

10th house.

if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious of 5

meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out (means ghar

ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then saturn

is in 9th.

regards,

leekha

lalkitab , wrote:

>

> Dear

> Â

> Leekha ji,

> Â

> Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you confrim this.

> Â

> Many thanks

> Â

> Manni

>

> --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

>

> sleekhas <sleekhas

> [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab

> Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

>

> Â

>

> dear manni,

>

> i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> iii) getting jobs date already given,

>

> upay for speeding up the process are,

>

> i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

>

> ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south of

your house, for 43 days.

>

> regards,

> leekha s

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > Ã‚Â

> > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what

things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > Ã‚Â

> > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I wear

a blue scissor chappal?

> > Ã‚Â

> > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my job.

> > Ã‚Â

> > Many thanks

> > Ã‚Â

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> >

> > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab@ s.com

> > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> >

> > dear mani

> >

> > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to Saturn or

rahu.

> >

> > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please get rid

of old chappal from your house,

> >

> > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some painted

flower pots or decorative glass items

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha s.

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > Thanks

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > MANNI

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > >

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > manni ji

> > >

> > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period) when

lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was due to

two reason

> > >

> > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not

relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo

pey.........

> > >

> > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> > >

> > > this may be due to folowing

> > >

> > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half year

prior to job loss)

> > >

> > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > >

> > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of cost.

> > >

> > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > >

> > > please check and revert.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL HOGA JISKA

FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI 3-9-15-21-27-

33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI KISMAT GANESH JI

KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > for further explanation

> > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI KAM

SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE MAAN

DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA PRABHAC HOGA.

3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > >

> > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus shani

in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > >

> > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > >

> > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's job

if he constructs a house.?

> > > >

> > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that tewa

darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will. it

happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't know from

the posted message.

> > > >

> > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked me

> > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > >

> > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's job??

> > > > >

> > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

khana

> > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

karta

> > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why in

> > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > >

> > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and neither

> > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after constructing

a

> > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda " it's

> > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > >

> > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > adversities.

> > > > >

> > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov 1976,

it

> > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even it

> > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7 in

> > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could be

> > > > > bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart might

> > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows signs

of

> > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with shani

9

> > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

should

> > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i

lost

> > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

November 18, 2009

Dear Sleeks ji,

Â

I have appended my comments in red.

Â

if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work which is

related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

My nana was working in block of flats which was owned by the government, not

wokking directly for the government.

if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also your

saturn is in house no 10th.Â N/A

the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn is in

10th house.

yes, there was

if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn is in

10th house.

No, third from last

if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious of 5

meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.NO, it was at 15m

if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out (means ghar

ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

Yes there was and is.

if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then saturn

is in 9th.

No, but she has problems with her legs now.

Â

will that mean my shani is in 9th or 10th, its a bit confusing.

Â

Thanks

Â

Manni

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

sleekhas <sleekhas

[lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

lalkitab

Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 10:14

Â

dear manni

if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work which is

related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also your

saturn is in house no 10th.

the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn is in

10th house.

if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn is in

10th house.

if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious of 5

meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out (means ghar

ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then saturn

is in 9th.

regards,

leekha

lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear

> Ã‚Â

> Leekha ji,

> Ã‚Â

> Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you confrim this.

> Ã‚Â

> Many thanks

> Ã‚Â

> Manni

>

> --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .> wrote:

>

> sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .>

> [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab@ s.com

> Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

>

> Ã‚Â

>

> dear manni,

>

> i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> iii) getting jobs date already given,

>

> upay for speeding up the process are,

>

> i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

>

> ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south of

your house, for 43 days.

>

> regards,

> leekha s

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what

things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I wear

a blue scissor chappal?

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my job.

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > Many thanks

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> >

> > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab@ s.com

> > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> >

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> >

> > dear mani

> >

> > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to Saturn or

rahu.

> >

> > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please get rid

of old chappal from your house,

> >

> > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some painted

flower pots or decorative glass items

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha s.

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > Thanks

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > MANNI

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > >

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > manni ji

> > >

> > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period) when

lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was due to

two reason

> > >

> > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not

relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo

pey.........

> > >

> > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> > >

> > > this may be due to folowing

> > >

> > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half year

prior to job loss)

> > >

> > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > >

> > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of cost.

> > >

> > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > >

> > > please check and revert.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL HOGA JISKA

FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI 3-9-15-21-27-

33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI KISMAT GANESH JI

KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > for further explanation

> > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI KAM

SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE MAAN

DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA PRABHAC HOGA.

3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > >

> > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus shani

in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > >

> > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > >

> > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's job

if he constructs a house.?

> > > >

> > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that tewa

darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will. it

happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't know from

the posted message.

> > > >

> > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked me

> > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > >

> > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's job??

> > > > >

> > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

khana

> > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

karta

> > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why in

> > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > >

> > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and neither

> > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after constructing

a

> > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda " it's

> > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > >

> > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > adversities.

> > > > >

> > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov 1976,

it

> > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even it

> > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7 in

> > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could be

> > > > > bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart might

> > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows signs

of

> > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with shani

9

> > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

should

> > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i

lost

> > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

November 18, 2009

Dear Punit ji,

Â

I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on wednesday

18th November at 5.15pm.Â the size of the coin is 2.5cm in diameter.

Â

I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

Â

Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and pukraj and i

have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger.Â is this ok.

Â

Many thanks for your help.

Â

But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have purhcased a

house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do shani pooja for this.

Â

Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to buying house(

shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

Â

Many thanks for your help.

Â

Manni.

--- On Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

Punit Pandey <punitp

Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

lalkitab

Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

Dear Manni ji,

*Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of improvement.* As

I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted in

your chart.

In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am sure

that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both Job

and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, wrote:

>Â Â Â Dear Pandit Punit ji,

>

> Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear a

> rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which has a

> moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is a rud

> raksh -Â is this ok?

>

> My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right leg,

> vericose veins.

>

> Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at the

> begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance contract,

> on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, but this

> is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my family.

> I have been looking for a job also.

>

> What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I might

> get it?

>

> Many thanks for your help once again

>

> Manni

>

> --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>*

wrote:punitp<wrote%3Apunitp

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp

> Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab

> Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

>

>Â Â Â Dear Manni ji,

> As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. Till the

> time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the solution. In

> your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced by

> Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury will be

> affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your job

> affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji visiting

> your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know Mercury

> represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> Mercuryâ€™s fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are in its

> influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house get the

> first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very powerful.

> Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more badly.

> Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of Jupiter,

> it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> Perform following remedies â€“

> 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with Saturn due

> to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin around

> your

> neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will reduce

> your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with remedies,

> but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

>

> 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter. Moon

> in 8th house doesnâ€™t look strong enough to me that can support Jupiter. So

> situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can give

> Moonâ€™s support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver on

> your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of Moonâ€™s

> placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

>

> You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform any

> remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your birth

> chart and not in annual chart.

> Hope it helps.

> Wish you all the best.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any health

> related problem recently?

>

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7reha\

l (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >wrote:

>

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > Punit Pandit ji,

> >

> > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an interview

> > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> previous

> > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present job was

> > made to senior from manager.Â i was getting bored, really bored, then in

> mid

> > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery in a

> > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later led to

> > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> >

> > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i have

> > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due to

> start

> > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr income.

> >

> > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some of the

> > money to put down as deposit.

> >

> > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> >

> > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and shani

> > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and sun

> moving

> > from my 8th house? is this true,

> >

> > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be good in

> my

> > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> >

> > many thanks to all who help me

> >

> > thanks

> >

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> >

> > kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in><kulbirbains%

> 40.co.in>>

>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com><lalkitab%

> 40>

>

> > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> >

> > Dear jitin;

> > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial downfall,

> he

> > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> > yes i know

> > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> >

> > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i gave

> you

> > the context to look into.

> > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to stock.

> > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> duress.

> > hope this clarifies.

> > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th house,

> it

> > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> >

> > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> >

> > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi chal,

> dos

> > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> 12houses.

> >

> > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but then

> > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive matters

> like

> > tewa darusti.

> >

> > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with saturn

> 1o

> > constructing a house and losing a job.

> >

> > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > participating;

> > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand what

> i

> > mean.

> > regards

> > kulbir

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > my thoughts??

> > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala saap "

> > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of malefic

> > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would know

> > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled by 2

> > > completely different planets.

> > >

> > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do i need

> > to

> > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani 7 (in

> > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to you.

> > >

> > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's life in

> > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at the

> > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if conjoined

> > > by enemy (sun11).

> > >

> > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing your

> > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the best in

> > > helping this native.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Jitin Syal

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> >

> > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

> > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

> HOGA

> > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN

> SAB

> > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > for further explanation

> > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

> > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> TARAH

> > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> UMADA

> > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > >

> > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > >

> > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > >

> > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

> job

> > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > >

> > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

> > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at

> > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

> we

> > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > >

> > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> >Â > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked

> > > me

> > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > >

> > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

> > > job??

> > > > >

> > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

> > > khana

> > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

> > > karta

> > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

> in

> > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > >

> > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> > > neither

> > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > constructing a

> > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

> > > it's

> > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > >

> > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > adversities.

> > > > >

> > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

> > > 1976, it

> > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

> it

> > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7

> > > in

> > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could

> > > be

> > > > > bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

> > > might

> > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

> > > signs of

> > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

> > > shani 9

> > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

> > > age.

> > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

> > > should

> > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i

> > > lost

> > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

November 19, 2009

Thanks a lot Leekhaji for great information- absolutely accurate in all cases

Amitabh

--- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

sleekhas <sleekhas

[lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

lalkitab

Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 10:14 AM

Â

dear manni

if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work which is

related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also your

saturn is in house no 10th.

the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn is in

10th house.

if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn is in

10th house.

if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious of 5

meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out (means ghar

ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then saturn

is in 9th.

regards,

leekha

lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear

> Ã‚Â

> Leekha ji,

> Ã‚Â

> Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you confrim this.

> Ã‚Â

> Many thanks

> Ã‚Â

> Manni

>

> --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .> wrote:

>

> sleekhas <sleekhas@.. .>

> [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab@ s.com

> Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

>

> Ã‚Â

>

> dear manni,

>

> i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> iii) getting jobs date already given,

>

> upay for speeding up the process are,

>

> i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

>

> ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south of

your house, for 43 days.

>

> regards,

> leekha s

>

> lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what

things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I wear

a blue scissor chappal?

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my job.

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > Many thanks

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> >

> > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab@ s.com

> > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> >

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> >

> > dear mani

> >

> > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to Saturn or

rahu.

> >

> > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please get rid

of old chappal from your house,

> >

> > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some painted

flower pots or decorative glass items

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha s.

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > Thanks

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > MANNI

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > >

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > manni ji

> > >

> > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period) when

lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was due to

two reason

> > >

> > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not

relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo

pey.........

> > >

> > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> > >

> > > this may be due to folowing

> > >

> > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half year

prior to job loss)

> > >

> > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > >

> > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of cost.

> > >

> > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > >

> > > please check and revert.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL HOGA JISKA

FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI 3-9-15-21-27-

33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI KISMAT GANESH JI

KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > for further explanation

> > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI KAM

SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE MAAN

DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA PRABHAC HOGA.

3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > >

> > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus shani

in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > >

> > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > >

> > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's job

if he constructs a house.?

> > > >

> > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that tewa

darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will. it

happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't know from

the posted message.

> > > >

> > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked me

> > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > >

> > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's job??

> > > > >

> > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

khana

> > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

karta

> > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why in

> > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > >

> > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and neither

> > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after constructing

a

> > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda " it's

> > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > >

> > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > adversities.

> > > > >

> > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov 1976,

it

> > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even it

> > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7 in

> > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could be

> > > > > bad.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart might

> > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows signs

of

> > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with shani

9

> > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

should

> > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i

lost

> > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

November 19, 2009

Dear Manni,

so long we have been talking about your new house,

lets see what your ancestral house says;

as mentioned by punit ji, the period you are running is attributed to mercury,

so its role cannot be undermined;

you have mercury with sun in house no. 11.

if the persons residing in your ancestral house by any means indulge in

activities relating to poison, acts which are considered derogatory to ethics,

morality, religon, the ill effects will be transferred immediately to your

horoscope,

so try to look into this aspect;

the floor/land of your now inhabited house also should not be used for such

purposes as poison storing, manufacturing, related articles etc.

regards

kulbir.

lalkitab , " sleekhas " <sleekhas wrote:

>

> dear manni

>

> if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work which

is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

>

> if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also your

saturn is in house no 10th.

>

> the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn is in

10th house.

>

> if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn is in

10th house.

>

> if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious of 5

meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

>

> if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out (means

ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

>

> if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then saturn

is in 9th.

>

> regards,

> leekha

>

> lalkitab , wrote:

> >

> > Dear

> > Â

> > Leekha ji,

> > Â

> > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you confrim

this.

> > Â

> > Many thanks

> > Â

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> >

> > sleekhas <sleekhas@>

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab

> > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> >

> > Â

> >

> > dear manni,

> >

> > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> >

> > upay for speeding up the process are,

> >

> > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> >

> > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south of

your house, for 43 days.

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha s

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what

things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I

wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my job.

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > Many thanks

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > Manni

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > >

> > > Ã‚Â

> > >

> > > dear mani

> > >

> > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to Saturn

or rahu.

> > >

> > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please get

rid of old chappal from your house,

> > >

> > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some painted

flower pots or decorative glass items

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha s.

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > Thanks

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > MANNI

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > >

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > >

> > > > manni ji

> > > >

> > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period) when

lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was due to

two reason

> > > >

> > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not

relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo

pey.........

> > > >

> > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> > > >

> > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > >

> > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half

year prior to job loss)

> > > >

> > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > >

> > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of cost.

> > > >

> > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > >

> > > > please check and revert.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > leekha

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for you

> > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL HOGA JISKA

FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI 3-9-15-21-27-

33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI KISMAT GANESH JI

KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI KAM

SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE MAAN

DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA PRABHAC HOGA.

3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > >

> > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus shani

in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > >

> > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > >

> > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's job

if he constructs a house.?

> > > > >

> > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will. it

happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't know from

the posted message.

> > > > >

> > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > kulbir

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you asked

me

> > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

job??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

khana

> > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

karta

> > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why in

> > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

neither

> > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

constructing a

> > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

it's

> > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume) and

> > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu ketu's

> > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

1976, it

> > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even it

> > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no 7

in

> > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that could

be

> > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

might

> > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

signs of

> > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

shani 9

> > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

age.

> > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

should

> > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why i

lost

> > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

November 19, 2009

Dear Leekha ji,

From where did you get " o/s/h/m/n/k " . Are these namakshar giving somehwere

in Lal Kitab?

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

>

> dear manni

>

> if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work

> which is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

>

> if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also

> your saturn is in house no 10th.

>

> the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn is

> in 10th house.

>

> if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn is

> in 10th house.

>

> if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious of 5

> meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

>

> if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out (means

> ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

>

> if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then

> saturn is in 9th.

>

> regards,

> leekha

>

> lalkitab <lalkitab%40>,

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear

> > Ã‚

> > Leekha ji,

> > Ã‚

>

> > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you confrim

> this.

> > Ã‚

> > Many thanks

> > Ã‚

> > Manni

> >

> > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

> >

> > sleekhas <sleekhas

> > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>

> > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > dear manni,

> >

> > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> >

> > upay for speeding up the process are,

> >

> > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> >

> > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south

> of your house, for 43 days.

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha s

> >

> > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

>

> > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what

> things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

>

> > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I

> wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

>

> > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my

> job.

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > Many thanks

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

>

> > > Manni

> > >

> > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > >

> > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > >

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > >

> > > dear mani

> > >

> > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to

> Saturn or rahu.

> > >

> > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please

> get rid of old chappal from your house,

> > >

> > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some

> painted flower pots or decorative glass items

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha s.

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

>

> > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > Thanks

> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

>

> > > > MANNI

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > >

> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > manni ji

> > > >

> > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period)

> when lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was

> due to two reason

> > > >

> > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not

> relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo

> pey.........

> > > >

> > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> > > >

> > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > >

> > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half

> year prior to job loss)

> > > >

> > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > >

> > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of

> cost.

> > > >

> > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > >

> > > > please check and revert.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > leekha

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for

> you

> > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> taraf maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

> HOGA JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI

> KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

> KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE

> MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA

> PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > >

> > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > >

> > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > >

> > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

> job if he constructs a house.?

> > > > >

> > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

> tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will.

> it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't

> know from the posted message.

> > > > >

> > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > kulbir

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> asked me

> > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

> job??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

> khana

> > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

> karta

> > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

> in

> > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> neither

> > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> constructing a

> > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

> it's

> > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume)

> and

> > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> ketu's

> > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

> 1976, it

> > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

> it

> > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no

> 7 in

> > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> could be

> > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

> might

> > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

> signs of

> > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

> shani 9

> > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

> age.

> > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

> should

> > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why

> i lost

> > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

November 19, 2009

Dear Manni ji,

I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house and your

job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two independent

events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter and

Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies for the

same.

I wish you all the best.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote:

> Dear Punit ji,

>

> I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on

> wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

> diameter.

>

> I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

>

> Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and pukraj

> and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger. is

> this ok.

>

> Many thanks for your help.

>

> But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have

> purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do shani

> pooja for this.

>

> Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to buying

> house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

>

> Many thanks for your help.

>

> Manni.

>

> --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp* wrote:

>

> Punit Pandey <punitp

> Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> lalkitab

>

> Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

>

> Dear Manni ji,

>

> *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of improvement.*

> As

> I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted in

> your chart.

>

> In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

>

> As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am sure

> that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both Job

> and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

>

> Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7reha\

l (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >wrote:

>

> > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

> >

> > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear a

> > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which has

> a

> > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is a

> rud

> > raksh - is this ok?

> >

> > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right leg,

> > vericose veins.

> >

> > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at the

> > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

> contract,

> > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, but

> this

> > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my

> family.

> > I have been looking for a job also.

> >

> > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I might

> > get it?

> >

> > Many thanks for your help once again

> >

> > Manni

> >

>

> > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>*

wrote:punitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@gmail\

..com>

>

<wrote%3Apunitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp@\

gmail.com>

> >

> > Punit Pandey

<punitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp >

> >

> > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com>

>

> > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

> >

> > Dear Manni ji,

> > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. Till

> the

> > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the solution.

> In

> > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced by

> > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury will be

> > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your job

> > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji visiting

> > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know Mercury

> > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> > Mercury’s fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are in

> its

> > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house get

> the

> > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very powerful.

> > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more badly.

> > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of

> Jupiter,

> > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> > Perform following remedies –

> > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with Saturn

> due

> > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin around

> > your

> > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will reduce

> > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

> remedies,

> > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

> >

> > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter.

> Moon

> > in 8th house doesn’t look strong enough to me that can support Jupiter.

> So

> > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can give

> > Moon’s support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver on

> > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of

> Moon’s

> > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

> >

> > You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform any

> > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your birth

> > chart and not in annual chart.

> > Hope it helps.

> > Wish you all the best.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any health

> > related problem recently?

> >

> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7reha\

l (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> > >wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Dear

> > >

> > > Punit Pandit ji,

> > >

> > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

> interview

> > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> > previous

> > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present job

> was

> > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored, then

> in

> > mid

> > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery in a

> > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later led to

> > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> > >

> > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i

> have

> > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due to

> > start

> > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr income.

> > >

> > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some of

> the

> > > money to put down as deposit.

> > >

> > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> > >

> > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and shani

> > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and sun

> > moving

> > > from my 8th house? is this true,

> > >

> > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be good in

> > my

> > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> > >

> > > many thanks to all who help me

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > Manni

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in

> ><kulbirbains%

> > 40.co.in>>

> >

> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com>

> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

> ><lalkitab%

> > 40>

> >

> > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> > >

> > > Dear jitin;

> > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial downfall,

> > he

> > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> > > yes i know

> > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> > >

> > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i gave

> > you

> > > the context to look into.

> > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to stock.

> > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> > duress.

> > > hope this clarifies.

> > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th house,

> > it

> > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> > >

> > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> > >

> > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi chal,

> > dos

> > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> > 12houses.

> > >

> > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but then

> > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive matters

> > like

> > > tewa darusti.

> > >

> > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with

> saturn

> > 1o

> > > constructing a house and losing a job.

> > >

> > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > > participating;

> > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand

> what

> > i

> > > mean.

> > > regards

> > > kulbir

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > my thoughts??

> > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala

> saap "

> > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of malefic

> > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would know

> > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled by

> 2

> > > > completely different planets.

> > > >

> > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do i

> need

> > > to

> > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani 7

> (in

> > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to you.

> > > >

> > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's life

> in

> > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at the

> > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

> conjoined

> > > > by enemy (sun11).

> > > >

> > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing your

> > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the best

> in

> > > > helping this native.

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Jitin Syal

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > >

> > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for

> you

> > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> taraf

> > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

> > HOGA

> > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN

> > SAB

> > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

> > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> > TARAH

> > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> > UMADA

> > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > >

> > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > >

> > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > >

> > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

> > job

> > > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > > >

> > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

> > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets

> at

> > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

> > we

> > > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > > >

> > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > kulbir

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> asked

> > > > me

> > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

> > > > job??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

> > > > khana

> > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

> > > > karta

> > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

> > in

> > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> > > > neither

> > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > constructing a

> > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

> > > > it's

> > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume)

> and

> > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> ketu's

> > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

> > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

> > it

> > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no

> 7

> > > > in

> > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> could

> > > > be

> > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

> > > > might

> > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

> > > > signs of

> > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

> > > > shani 9

> > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

> > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

> > > > should

> > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why

> i

> > > > lost

> > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

November 19, 2009

dear punit ji,

it is there how,

saturn 10 will be bad if house no 4 melafic of occupied by enemies of saturn

i.e. sun,moon and/or mars.

now,

S is from numeric 1 (sun/mars)

K is from numeric 2 (shuker/brihspat) here this k reflectes nature of chachi

also (the aunt will always be busy in doing makeups etc, sara samaey sajney

sawareney mein lagati hogi)

M is from numeric 4 moon

N is from numeric 5 sun

when the houses are fixed in LK so the numbers also, nine stars and 9 numbers.

the person with saturn in 10th will only approach you when he will be in

trouble, then first we have to confirm placemnet by any way,

regards,

leekha

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Leekha ji,

>

> From where did you get " o/s/h/m/n/k " . Are these namakshar giving somehwere

> in Lal Kitab?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:44 PM, sleekhas <sleekhas wrote:

>

> >

> > dear manni

> >

> > if your grand father (nana or dada) is in government job or doing work

> > which is related to government. then your saturn should be 10th house.

> >

> > if your uncles (chachas) name starts with alphabet o/s/h/m/n/k then also

> > your saturn is in house no 10th.

> >

> > the house you born in if have andheri kothi (dark room) then your saturn is

> > in 10th house.

> >

> > if your house where u born, is the last house of lane then your saturn is

> > in 10th house.

> >

> > if the house y born was having peepal/neem tree near by(within radious of 5

> > meters) then your saturn is in 9th house.

> >

> > if the house u born was having some sort of tap (nalka) in side out (means

> > ghar ke ander se nalka bahar gaya ho) then it means saturn in 9th house.

> >

> > if mother had some problem related to legs when u were 16 year old then

> > saturn is in 9th.

> >

> > regards,

> > leekha

> >

> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>,

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear

> > > Ã‚

> > > Leekha ji,

> > > Ã‚

> >

> > > Many thanks for your reply, I purchased my house in sep/oct 2008.

> > > Also according to my software shani is in my 9th house, can you confrim

> > this.

> > > Ã‚

> > > Many thanks

> > > Ã‚

> > > Manni

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 18/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@> wrote:

> > >

> > > sleekhas <sleekhas@>

> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>

> > > Wednesday, 18 November, 2009, 6:42

> > >

> > > Ã‚

> > >

> > > dear manni,

> > >

> > > i) did u given token money for this house in 2007 jan period.

> > > ii) any old broken chappal to be thrown out of house

> > > iii) getting jobs date already given,

> > >

> > > upay for speeding up the process are,

> > >

> > > i) donate 1 pearl (moti) x four days in temple.

> > >

> > > ii) after that keep 2 almonds (sabut badaam) in temple which is in south

> > of your house, for 43 days.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > leekha s

> > >

> > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sleekha Ji,

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > > > I dont remember buying anything in jan 2007, but give me an idead what

> > things are related to saturn and rahu?

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > > > We have many chappals, in the house, is it me chappal?, what colour, I

> > wear a blue scissor chappal?

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > > > I am really confused, i help people get jobs, and i end up losing my

> > job.

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > Many thanks

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > > > Manni

> > > >

> > > > --- On Mon, 16/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 19:00

> > > >

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > >

> > > > dear mani

> > > >

> > > > what did you bought in jan or near jan 2007, any thing related to

> > Saturn or rahu.

> > > >

> > > > the things will improve from 15 nov to 28 nov this year 2009. please

> > get rid of old chappal from your house,

> > > >

> > > > did you painted your painted flowere pots recently. or bought some

> > painted flower pots or decorative glass items

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > leekha s.

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, <manni7rehal@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sleekha ji,

> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > > > > I buyed house in 2008 sept/oct when i was 32 years of age.

> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> >

> > > > > MANNI

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, sleekhas <sleekhas@ .> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > sleekhas <sleekhas@ .>

> > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com

> > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 5:37

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > >

> > > > > manni ji

> > > > >

> > > > > the period you have mentioned loss of job (was the 6 months period)

> > when lots of peoples of sat 9th and sat 10th have lost their jobs, that was

> > due to two reason

> > > > >

> > > > > i) bad placement of saturn in gochar(here in lk segement it is not

> > relevent) but lal kitab says, greho ka phal hoga insaan, pashu aur parindo

> > pey.........

> > > > >

> > > > > ii) here in your case the saturn has been made melafic by deeds how,

> > > > >

> > > > > this may be due to folowing

> > > > >

> > > > > this job loss is effect of its dhaiya, (house buy exactly 2 and half

> > year prior to job loss)

> > > > >

> > > > > keeping rahu's things in west side of your house

> > > > >

> > > > > or getting saturn things as gift (wine/electronics items0 free of

> > cost.

> > > > >

> > > > > annoying any labourer of blind person.

> > > > >

> > > > > please check and revert.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > leekha

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ ...> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for

> > you

> > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> > taraf maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

> > HOGA JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN SAB KI

> > KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

> > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR TARAH SE

> > MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI UMADA

> > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

> > job if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

> > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets at will.

> > it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that we don't

> > know from the posted message.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> > asked me

> > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

> > job??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

> > khana

> > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

> > karta

> > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

> > in

> > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> > neither

> > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > constructing a

> > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

> > it's

> > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume)

> > and

> > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> > ketu's

> > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

> > 1976, it

> > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

> > it

> > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no

> > 7 in

> > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> > could be

> > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

> > might

> > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

> > signs of

> > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

> > shani 9

> > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

> > age.

> > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

> > should

> > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why

> > i lost

> > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

November 20, 2009

dear punit ji

i was wondering how is mercury effected me. I mean is this due to the placement

of mercury during varshpal. Because another maser ji of mine was with us in

august 2006 i did not loose my job then. Infact two months later oct 2006 i got

a new and better job. So i am a bit confused. can you please throw some light

on this matter?

Thanks

manni

Punit Pandey wrote:

> Dear Manni ji,

> I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house and your

> job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two independent

> events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter and

> Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies for the

> same.

> I wish you all the best.

> Thanks & Regards,

> Punit Pandey

> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote:

>> Dear Punit ji,

>>

>> I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on

>> wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

>> diameter.

>>

>> I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

>>

>> Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and pukraj

>> and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger. is

>> this ok.

>>

>> Many thanks for your help.

>>

>> But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have

>> purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do shani

>> pooja for this.

>>

>> Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to buying

>> house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

>>

>> Many thanks for your help.

>>

>> Manni.

>>

>> --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp* wrote:

>>

>> Punit Pandey <punitp

>> Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

>> lalkitab

>>

>> Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

>>

>> Dear Manni ji,

>>

>> *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of improvement.*

>> As

>> I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted in

>> your chart.

>>

>> In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

>>

>> As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am sure

>> that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both Job

>> and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

>>

>> Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

>>

>> Thanks & Regards,

>>

>> Punit Pandey

>>

>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7reha\

l (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

>> >wrote:

>>

>> > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

>> >

>> > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear a

>> > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which has

>> a

>> > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is a

>> rud

>> > raksh - is this ok?

>> >

>> > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

>> > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right leg,

>> > vericose veins.

>> >

>> > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at the

>> > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

>> contract,

>> > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

>> > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, but

>> this

>> > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my

>> family.

>> > I have been looking for a job also.

>> >

>> > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I might

>> > get it?

>> >

>> > Many thanks for your help once again

>> >

>> > Manni

>> >

>>

>> > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>*

wrote:punitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@gmail\

..com>

>>

<wrote%3Apunitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp@\

gmail.com>

>> >

>> > Punit Pandey

<punitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp >

>> >

>> > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

>> > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com>

>>

>> > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

>> >

>> > Dear Manni ji,

>> > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. Till

>> the

>> > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the solution.

>> In

>> > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced by

>> > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury will be

>> > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your job

>> > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji visiting

>> > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know Mercury

>> > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

>> > Mercuryâ€™s fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are in

>> its

>> > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house get

>> the

>> > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very powerful.

>> > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more badly.

>> > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of

>> Jupiter,

>> > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

>> > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

>> > Perform following remedies â€“

>> > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with Saturn

>> due

>> > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin around

>> > your

>> > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will reduce

>> > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

>> remedies,

>> > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

>> > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

>> >

>> > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter.

>> Moon

>> > in 8th house doesnâ€™t look strong enough to me that can support Jupiter.

>> So

>> > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can give

>> > Moonâ€™s support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver on

>> > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of

>> Moonâ€™s

>> > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

>> >

>> > You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform any

>> > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your birth

>> > chart and not in annual chart.

>> > Hope it helps.

>> > Wish you all the best.

>> >

>> > Thanks & Regards,

>> >

>> > Punit Pandey

>> >

>> > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

>> > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any health

>> > related problem recently?

>> >

>> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7reha\

l (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

>> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

>> > >wrote:

>> >

>> > >

>> > > Dear

>> > >

>> > > Punit Pandit ji,

>> > >

>> > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

>> interview

>> > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

>> > previous

>> > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present job

>> was

>> > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored, then

>> in

>> > mid

>> > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery in a

>> > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later led to

>> > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

>> > >

>> > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i

>> have

>> > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due to

>> > start

>> > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr income.

>> > >

>> > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some of

>> the

>> > > money to put down as deposit.

>> > >

>> > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

>> > >

>> > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and shani

>> > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and sun

>> > moving

>> > > from my 8th house? is this true,

>> > >

>> > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be good in

>> > my

>> > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

>> > >

>> > > many thanks to all who help me

>> > >

>> > > thanks

>> > >

>> > > Manni

>> > >

>> > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

>> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in>

>> > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

>> > > wrote:

>> > >

>> > > kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbain\

s (AT) (DOT) co.in>

>> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in

>> ><kulbirbains%

>> > 40.co.in>>

>> >

>> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

>> > > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com>

>> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

>> ><lalkitab%

>> > 40>

>> >

>> > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

>> > >

>> > > Dear jitin;

>> > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial downfall,

>> > he

>> > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

>> > > yes i know

>> > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

>> > >

>> > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i gave

>> > you

>> > > the context to look into.

>> > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to stock.

>> > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

>> > duress.

>> > > hope this clarifies.

>> > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th house,

>> > it

>> > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

>> > >

>> > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

>> > >

>> > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi chal,

>> > dos

>> > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

>> > 12houses.

>> > >

>> > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but then

>> > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive matters

>> > like

>> > > tewa darusti.

>> > >

>> > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with

>> saturn

>> > 1o

>> > > constructing a house and losing a job.

>> > >

>> > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

>> > > participating;

>> > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand

>> what

>> > i

>> > > mean.

>> > > regards

>> > > kulbir

>> > >

>> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:

>> > > >

>> > > > my thoughts??

>> > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala

>> saap "

>> > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of malefic

>> > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would know

>> > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled by

>> 2

>> > > > completely different planets.

>> > > >

>> > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

>> > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do i

>> need

>> > > to

>> > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

>> > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani 7

>> (in

>> > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to you.

>> > > >

>> > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's life

>> in

>> > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at the

>> > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

>> conjoined

>> > > > by enemy (sun11).

>> > > >

>> > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing your

>> > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

>> > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the best

>> in

>> > > > helping this native.

>> > > >

>> > > > regards

>> > > > Jitin Syal

>> > > >

>> > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

>> > >

>> > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

>> > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for

>> you

>> > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

>> taraf

>> > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

>> > HOGA

>> > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

>> > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN

>> > SAB

>> > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

>> > > > > for further explanation

>> > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

>> > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

>> > TARAH

>> > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

>> > UMADA

>> > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

>> > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

>> > > > >

>> > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

>> > job

>> > > > if he constructs a house.?

>> > > > >

>> > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

>> > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets

>> at

>> > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

>> > we

>> > > > don't know from the posted message.

>> > > > >

>> > > > > now what are your thoughts?

>> > > > >

>> > > > > regards

>> > > > > kulbir

>> > > > >

>> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

>> > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

>> asked

>> > > > me

>> > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

>> > > > job??

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

>> > > > khana

>> > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

>> > > > karta

>> > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

>> > in

>> > > > > > 33rd year.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

>> > > > neither

>> > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

>> > > > constructing a

>> > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

>> > > > it's

>> > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume)

>> and

>> > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

>> ketu's

>> > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

>> > > > > > adversities.

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > what's your thoughts??

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Regards

>> > > > > > Jitin Syal

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

>> wrote:

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

>> > > > 1976, it

>> > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

>> > it

>> > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no

>> 7

>> > > > in

>> > > > > > varshphal.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

>> could

>> > > > be

>> > > > > > bad.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > regards

>> > > > > > > kulbir.

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

>> wrote:

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

>> > > > might

>> > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

>> > > > signs of

>> > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

>> > > > shani 9

>> > > > > > struggling in their life.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

>> > wrote:

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > dear sir

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

>> > > > age.

>> > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

>> > > > should

>> > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why

>> i

>> > > > lost

>> > > > > > ,my job.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

>> > > > > > confused.

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

>> > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

>> > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > many thanks

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > manni

>> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > >

>> > > > > >

November 21, 2009

Respected Punit ji, how can you blame mercury and prescribe remedies without

calculating " budh ka khas bhed/budh ki tabiyat " ??

Awaiting your reply

Jitin syal

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Manni ji,

>

> I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house and your

> job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two independent

> events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter and

> Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies for the

> same.

>

> I wish you all the best.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote:

>

> > Dear Punit ji,

> >

> > I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on

> > wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

> > diameter.

> >

> > I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

> >

> > Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and pukraj

> > and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger. is

> > this ok.

> >

> > Many thanks for your help.

> >

> > But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have

> > purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do shani

> > pooja for this.

> >

> > Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to buying

> > house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

> >

> > Many thanks for your help.

> >

> > Manni.

> >

> > --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp* wrote:

> >

> > Punit Pandey <punitp

> > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > lalkitab

> >

> > Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

> >

> > Dear Manni ji,

> >

> > *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of improvement.*

> > As

> > I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted in

> > your chart.

> >

> > In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

> >

> > As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am sure

> > that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both Job

> > and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

> >

> > Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal

> > >wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear a

> > > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which has

> > a

> > > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is a

> > rud

> > > raksh - is this ok?

> > >

> > > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> > > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right leg,

> > > vericose veins.

> > >

> > > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at the

> > > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

> > contract,

> > > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> > > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, but

> > this

> > > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my

> > family.

> > > I have been looking for a job also.

> > >

> > > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I might

> > > get it?

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your help once again

> > >

> > > Manni

> > >

> >

> > > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>*

wrote:punitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp

> >

<wrote%3Apunitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

<punitp<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp

> > >

> > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com>

> >

> > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

> > >

> > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. Till

> > the

> > > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the solution.

> > In

> > > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced by

> > > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury will be

> > > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your job

> > > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji visiting

> > > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know Mercury

> > > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> > > Mercury's fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are in

> > its

> > > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house get

> > the

> > > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very powerful.

> > > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more badly.

> > > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of

> > Jupiter,

> > > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> > > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> > > Perform following remedies –

> > > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with Saturn

> > due

> > > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin around

> > > your

> > > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will reduce

> > > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

> > remedies,

> > > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> > > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

> > >

> > > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter.

> > Moon

> > > in 8th house doesn't look strong enough to me that can support Jupiter.

> > So

> > > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can give

> > > Moon's support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver on

> > > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of

> > Moon's

> > > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

> > >

> > > You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform any

> > > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your birth

> > > chart and not in annual chart.

> > > Hope it helps.

> > > Wish you all the best.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> > > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any health

> > > related problem recently?

> > >

> > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM,

<manni7rehal<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal

> > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal

> > > >wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandit ji,

> > > >

> > > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

> > interview

> > > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> > > previous

> > > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present job

> > was

> > > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored, then

> > in

> > > mid

> > > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery in a

> > > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later led to

> > > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> > > >

> > > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i

> > have

> > > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due to

> > > start

> > > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr income.

> > > >

> > > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some of

> > the

> > > > money to put down as deposit.

> > > >

> > > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> > > >

> > > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and shani

> > > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and sun

> > > moving

> > > > from my 8th house? is this true,

> > > >

> > > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be good in

> > > my

> > > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> > > >

> > > > many thanks to all who help me

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > >

> > > > Manni

> > > >

> > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains

> > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains

> > > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > kulbir

<kulbirbains<http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains

> > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@...

> > ><kulbirbains%

> > > 40.co.in>>

> > >

> > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > To:

lalkitab <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab@y\

ahoogroups.com>

> > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

> > ><lalkitab%

> > > 40>

> > >

> > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> > > >

> > > > Dear jitin;

> > > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial downfall,

> > > he

> > > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> > > > yes i know

> > > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> > > >

> > > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i gave

> > > you

> > > > the context to look into.

> > > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to stock.

> > > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> > > duress.

> > > > hope this clarifies.

> > > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th house,

> > > it

> > > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> > > >

> > > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> > > >

> > > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi chal,

> > > dos

> > > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> > > 12houses.

> > > >

> > > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but then

> > > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive matters

> > > like

> > > > tewa darusti.

> > > >

> > > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with

> > saturn

> > > 1o

> > > > constructing a house and losing a job.

> > > >

> > > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > > > participating;

> > > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand

> > what

> > > i

> > > > mean.

> > > > regards

> > > > kulbir

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > my thoughts??

> > > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala

> > saap "

> > > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of malefic

> > > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would know

> > > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled by

> > 2

> > > > > completely different planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do i

> > need

> > > > to

> > > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> > > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani 7

> > (in

> > > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to you.

> > > > >

> > > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's life

> > in

> > > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at the

> > > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

> > conjoined

> > > > > by enemy (sun11).

> > > > >

> > > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing your

> > > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> > > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the best

> > in

> > > > > helping this native.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > >

> > > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for

> > you

> > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> > taraf

> > > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA HAAL

> > > HOGA

> > > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI MAIDAAN

> > > SAB

> > > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE KI

> > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> > > TARAH

> > > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> > > UMADA

> > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm one's

> > > job

> > > > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain that

> > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move planets

> > at

> > > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions, that

> > > we

> > > > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> > asked

> > > > > me

> > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm someone's

> > > > > job??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli mein

> > > > > khana

> > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf maar

> > > > > karta

> > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of why

> > > in

> > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> > > > > neither

> > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal umda "

> > > > > it's

> > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a house.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume)

> > and

> > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> > ketu's

> > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring such

> > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15 nov

> > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year. even

> > > it

> > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house no

> > 7

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> > could

> > > > > be

> > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your chart

> > > > > might

> > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance shows

> > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people with

> > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years of

> > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that i

> > > > > should

> > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that why

> > i

> > > > > lost

> > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am very

> > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

November 21, 2009

Dear Jatin ji,

Where it is written in Lal Kitab that we can not prescribe remedies without

calculating " bud ka bhed/ budh ki tabiyat " , especially when we are

prescribing remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab itself for a planet in a house?

Do you feel that Lal Kitab author didn't know Lal Kitab by mentioning remedy

for Budh in each house?

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, JITIN <jitinsyal82 wrote:

>

> Respected Punit ji, how can you blame mercury and prescribe remedies

> without calculating " budh ka khas bhed/budh ki tabiyat " ??

>

> Awaiting your reply

> Jitin syal

>

> lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey

> <punitp wrote:

> >

> > Dear Manni ji,

> >

> > I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house and

> your

> > job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two independent

> > events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter and

> > Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies for

> the

> > same.

> >

> > I wish you all the best.

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote:

>

> >

> > > Dear Punit ji,

> > >

> > > I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on

> > > wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

> > > diameter.

> > >

> > > I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

> > >

> > > Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and

> pukraj

> > > and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger.

> is

> > > this ok.

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your help.

> > >

> > > But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have

> > > purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do

> shani

> > > pooja for this.

> > >

> > > Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to

> buying

> > > house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

> > >

> > > Many thanks for your help.

> > >

> > > Manni.

> > >

> > > --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp* wrote:

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey <punitp

>

> > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>

> > >

> > > Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

> > >

> > > Dear Manni ji,

> > >

> > > *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of

> improvement.*

> > > As

> > > I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted

> in

> > > your chart.

> > >

> > > In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

> > >

> > > As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am

> sure

> > > that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both

> Job

> > > and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

> > >

> > > Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, <manni7rehal<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal

>

> > > >wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear

> a

> > > > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which

> has

> > > a

> > > > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is

> a

> > > rud

> > > > raksh - is this ok?

> > > >

> > > > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> > > > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right

> leg,

> > > > vericose veins.

> > > >

> > > > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at

> the

> > > > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

> > > contract,

> > > > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> > > > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start,

> but

> > > this

> > > > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my

> > > family.

> > > > I have been looking for a job also.

> > > >

> > > > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I

> might

> > > > get it?

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your help once again

> > > >

> > > > Manni

> > > >

> > >

> > > > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>* wrote:punitp<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp

> > > <wrote%3Apunitp<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey <punitp<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp

>

> > > >

> > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> house

> > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > >

> > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem.

> Till

> > > the

> > > > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the

> solution.

> > > In

> > > > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced

> by

> > > > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury

> will be

> > > > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your

> job

> > > > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji

> visiting

> > > > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know

> Mercury

> > > > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> > > > Mercury's fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are

> in

> > > its

> > > > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house

> get

> > > the

> > > > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very

> powerful.

> > > > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more

> badly.

> > > > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of

> > > Jupiter,

> > > > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> > > > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> > > > Perform following remedies –

> > > > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with

> Saturn

> > > due

> > > > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin

> around

> > > > your

> > > > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will

> reduce

> > > > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

> > > remedies,

> > > > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> > > > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

> > > >

> > > > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter.

> > > Moon

> > > > in 8th house doesn't look strong enough to me that can support

> Jupiter.

> > > So

> > > > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can

> give

> > > > Moon's support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver

> on

> > > > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of

> > > Moon's

> > > > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

> > > >

> > > > You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform

> any

> > > > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your

> birth

> > > > chart and not in annual chart.

> > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > Wish you all the best.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> > > > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any

> health

> > > > related problem recently?

> > > >

> > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <manni7rehal<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal

> > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal

>

> > > > >wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandit ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

> > > interview

> > > > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> > > > previous

> > > > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present

> job

> > > was

> > > > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored,

> then

> > > in

> > > > mid

> > > > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery

> in a

> > > > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later

> led to

> > > > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> > > > >

> > > > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i

> > > have

> > > > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due

> to

> > > > start

> > > > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr

> income.

> > > > >

> > > > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some

> of

> > > the

> > > > > money to put down as deposit.

> > > > >

> > > > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> > > > >

> > > > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and

> shani

> > > > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and

> sun

> > > > moving

> > > > > from my 8th house? is this true,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be

> good in

> > > > my

> > > > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> > > > >

> > > > > many thanks to all who help me

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks

> > > > >

> > > > > Manni

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir <kulbirbains<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains

> > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains

>

> > > > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains

> > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@...

>

> > > ><kulbirbains%

> > > > 40.co.in>>

> > > >

> > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

> > > ><lalkitab%

> > > > 40>

> > > >

> > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear jitin;

> > > > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial

> downfall,

> > > > he

> > > > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> > > > > yes i know

> > > > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> > > > >

> > > > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i

> gave

> > > > you

> > > > > the context to look into.

> > > > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to

> stock.

> > > > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> > > > duress.

> > > > > hope this clarifies.

> > > > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th

> house,

> > > > it

> > > > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> > > > >

> > > > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> > > > >

> > > > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi

> chal,

> > > > dos

> > > > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> > > > 12houses.

> > > > >

> > > > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but

> then

> > > > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive

> matters

> > > > like

> > > > > tewa darusti.

> > > > >

> > > > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with

> > > saturn

> > > > 1o

> > > > > constructing a house and losing a job.

> > > > >

> > > > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > > > > participating;

> > > > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand

> > > what

> > > > i

> > > > > mean.

> > > > > regards

> > > > > kulbir

> > > > >

> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > my thoughts??

> > > > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala

> > > saap "

> > > > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of

> malefic

> > > > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would

> know

> > > > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled

> by

> > > 2

> > > > > > completely different planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do

> i

> > > need

> > > > > to

> > > > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> > > > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani

> 7

> > > (in

> > > > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to

> you.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's

> life

> > > in

> > > > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at

> the

> > > > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

> > > conjoined

> > > > > > by enemy (sun11).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing

> your

> > > > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> > > > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the

> best

> > > in

> > > > > > helping this native.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > > >

> > > > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it

> for

> > > you

> > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> > > taraf

> > > > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA

> HAAL

> > > > HOGA

> > > > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI

> HOGI

> > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> MAIDAAN

> > > > SAB

> > > > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE

> KI

> > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL

> HAR

> > > > TARAH

> > > > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA

> HI

> > > > UMADA

> > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> year.plus

> > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm

> one's

> > > > job

> > > > > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain

> that

> > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move

> planets

> > > at

> > > > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions,

> that

> > > > we

> > > > > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> > > asked

> > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> someone's

> > > > > > job??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli

> mein

> > > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

> maar

> > > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of

> why

> > > > in

> > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living,

> and

> > > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal

> umda "

> > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

> house.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets

> assume)

> > > and

> > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring

> such

> > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15

> nov

> > > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year.

> even

> > > > it

> > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in

> house no

> > > 7

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> > > could

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your

> chart

> > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

> shows

> > > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people

> with

> > > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years

> of

> > > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told

> that i

> > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that

> why

> > > i

> > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am

> very

> > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

November 21, 2009

Dear Manni ji,

Please read my earlier email what I have written about 33rd year/ 34th year.

It is important you read the email before asking further questions.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:39 PM, wrote:

> dear punit ji

> i was wondering how is mercury effected me. I mean is this due to the

> placement of mercury during varshpal. Because another maser ji of mine was

> with us in august 2006 i did not loose my job then. Infact two months later

> oct 2006 i got a new and better job. So i am a bit confused. can you please

> throw some light on this matter?

> Thanks

> manni

>

> Punit Pandey wrote:

> > Dear Manni ji,

> > I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house and

> your

> > job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two independent

> > events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter and

> > Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies for

> the

> > same.

> > I wish you all the best.

> > Thanks & Regards,

> > Punit Pandey

> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, <manni7rehal

> >wrote:

> >> Dear Punit ji,

> >>

> >> I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on

> >> wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

> >> diameter.

> >>

> >> I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

> >>

> >> Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and pukraj

> >> and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger.

> is

> >> this ok.

> >>

> >> Many thanks for your help.

> >>

> >> But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have

> >> purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do

> shani

> >> pooja for this.

> >>

> >> Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to buying

> >> house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

> >>

> >> Many thanks for your help.

> >>

> >> Manni.

> >>

> >> --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp* wrote:

> >>

> >> Punit Pandey <punitp

> >> Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> >> lalkitab

> >>

> >> Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

> >>

> >> Dear Manni ji,

> >>

> >> *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of

> improvement.*

> >> As

> >> I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted

> in

> >> your chart.

> >>

> >> In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

> >>

> >> As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am sure

> >> that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both

> Job

> >> and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

> >>

> >> Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

> >>

> >> Thanks & Regards,

> >>

> >> Punit Pandey

> >>

> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, <manni7rehal<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >> >wrote:

> >>

> >> > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

> >> >

> >> > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear

> a

> >> > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which

> has

> >> a

> >> > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is

> a

> >> rud

> >> > raksh - is this ok?

> >> >

> >> > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> >> > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right

> leg,

> >> > vericose veins.

> >> >

> >> > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at

> the

> >> > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

> >> contract,

> >> > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> >> > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start, but

> >> this

> >> > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my

> >> family.

> >> > I have been looking for a job also.

> >> >

> >> > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I

> might

> >> > get it?

> >> >

> >> > Many thanks for your help once again

> >> >

> >> > Manni

> >> >

> >>

> >> > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>*

wrote:punitp<wrote%3Apunitp

> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp >

> >> <wrote%3Apunitp <wrote%253Apunitp<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp >

> >> >

> >> > Punit Pandey <punitp<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp >

> >> >

> >> > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> >> > lalkitab <

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> >>

> >> > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

> >> >

> >> > Dear Manni ji,

> >> > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem. Till

> >> the

> >> > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the

> solution.

> >> In

> >> > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced

> by

> >> > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury will

> be

> >> > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your

> job

> >> > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji

> visiting

> >> > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know

> Mercury

> >> > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> >> > Mercury’s fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are in

> >> its

> >> > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house

> get

> >> the

> >> > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very

> powerful.

> >> > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more

> badly.

> >> > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of

> >> Jupiter,

> >> > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> >> > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> >> > Perform following remedies –

> >> > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with Saturn

> >> due

> >> > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin

> around

> >> > your

> >> > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will

> reduce

> >> > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

> >> remedies,

> >> > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> >> > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

> >> >

> >> > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter.

> >> Moon

> >> > in 8th house doesn’t look strong enough to me that can support

> Jupiter.

> >> So

> >> > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can

> give

> >> > Moon’s support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver

> on

> >> > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of

> >> Moon’s

> >> > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

> >> >

> >> > You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform any

> >> > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your

> birth

> >> > chart and not in annual chart.

> >> > Hope it helps.

> >> > Wish you all the best.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks & Regards,

> >> >

> >> > Punit Pandey

> >> >

> >> > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> >> > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any

> health

> >> > related problem recently?

> >> >

> >> > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <

> manni7rehal<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >> > >wrote:

> >> >

> >> > >

> >> > > Dear

> >> > >

> >> > > Punit Pandit ji,

> >> > >

> >> > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

> >> interview

> >> > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> >> > previous

> >> > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present job

> >> was

> >> > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored,

> then

> >> in

> >> > mid

> >> > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery in

> a

> >> > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later led

> to

> >> > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> >> > >

> >> > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i

> >> have

> >> > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due to

> >> > start

> >> > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr income.

> >> > >

> >> > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some

> of

> >> the

> >> > > money to put down as deposit.

> >> > >

> >> > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> >> > >

> >> > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and

> shani

> >> > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and

> sun

> >> > moving

> >> > > from my 8th house? is this true,

> >> > >

> >> > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be good

> in

> >> > my

> >> > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> >> > >

> >> > > many thanks to all who help me

> >> > >

> >> > > thanks

> >> > >

> >> > > Manni

> >> > >

> >> > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir <kulbirbains<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >> > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> >> > > wrote:

> >> > >

> >> > > kulbir <kulbirbains<

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> >> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains (AT) (DOT) co.in

> >> ><kulbirbains%

> >> > 40.co.in>>

> >> >

> >> > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> >> > > lalkitab <

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> >> <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

> >> ><lalkitab%

> >> > 40>

> >> >

> >> > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> >> > >

> >> > > Dear jitin;

> >> > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial

> downfall,

> >> > he

> >> > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> >> > > yes i know

> >> > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> >> > >

> >> > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i

> gave

> >> > you

> >> > > the context to look into.

> >> > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to

> stock.

> >> > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> >> > duress.

> >> > > hope this clarifies.

> >> > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th

> house,

> >> > it

> >> > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> >> > >

> >> > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> >> > >

> >> > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi

> chal,

> >> > dos

> >> > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> >> > 12houses.

> >> > >

> >> > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but

> then

> >> > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive

> matters

> >> > like

> >> > > tewa darusti.

> >> > >

> >> > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with

> >> saturn

> >> > 1o

> >> > > constructing a house and losing a job.

> >> > >

> >> > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> >> > > participating;

> >> > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand

> >> what

> >> > i

> >> > > mean.

> >> > > regards

> >> > > kulbir

> >> > >

> >> > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...> wrote:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > my thoughts??

> >> > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala

> >> saap "

> >> > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of

> malefic

> >> > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would

> know

> >> > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled

> by

> >> 2

> >> > > > completely different planets.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> >> > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do i

> >> need

> >> > > to

> >> > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> >> > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani

> 7

> >> (in

> >> > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to

> you.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's

> life

> >> in

> >> > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at

> the

> >> > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

> >> conjoined

> >> > > > by enemy (sun11).

> >> > > >

> >> > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing

> your

> >> > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> >> > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the

> best

> >> in

> >> > > > helping this native.

> >> > > >

> >> > > > regards

> >> > > > Jitin Syal

> >> > > >

> >> > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> >> > >

> >> > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> >> > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it for

> >> you

> >> > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> >> taraf

> >> > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA

> HAAL

> >> > HOGA

> >> > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI HOGI

> >> > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> MAIDAAN

> >> > SAB

> >> > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> >> > > > > for further explanation

> >> > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE

> KI

> >> > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL HAR

> >> > TARAH

> >> > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA HI

> >> > UMADA

> >> > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd year.plus

> >> > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm

> one's

> >> > job

> >> > > > if he constructs a house.?

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain

> that

> >> > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move

> planets

> >> at

> >> > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions,

> that

> >> > we

> >> > > > don't know from the posted message.

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > regards

> >> > > > > kulbir

> >> > > > >

> >> > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> >> > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> >> asked

> >> > > > me

> >> > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> someone's

> >> > > > job??

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli

> mein

> >> > > > khana

> >> > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

> maar

> >> > > > karta

> >> > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of

> why

> >> > in

> >> > > > > > 33rd year.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living, and

> >> > > > neither

> >> > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> >> > > > constructing a

> >> > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal

> umda "

> >> > > > it's

> >> > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

> house.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets assume)

> >> and

> >> > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> >> ketu's

> >> > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring

> such

> >> > > > > > adversities.

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > Regards

> >> > > > > > Jitin Syal

> >> > > > > >

> >> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> >> wrote:

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15

> nov

> >> > > > 1976, it

> >> > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year.

> even

> >> > it

> >> > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in house

> no

> >> 7

> >> > > > in

> >> > > > > > varshphal.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> >> could

> >> > > > be

> >> > > > > > bad.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > regards

> >> > > > > > > kulbir.

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> >> wrote:

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your

> chart

> >> > > > might

> >> > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

> shows

> >> > > > signs of

> >> > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people

> with

> >> > > > shani 9

> >> > > > > > struggling in their life.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni " <manni7rehal@ >

> >> > wrote:

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > dear sir

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years

> of

> >> > > > age.

> >> > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told that

> i

> >> > > > should

> >> > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that

> why

> >> i

> >> > > > lost

> >> > > > > > ,my job.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am

> very

> >> > > > > > confused.

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> >> > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> >> > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > many thanks

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > manni

> >> > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > >

> >> > > > > >

November 21, 2009

Punit ji,

Hence you think it's not important enough to find out " budh ki tabiyat " before

blaming budh for native's loss of job??

Also the author of lal kitab wrote 2 pages on " budh ka bedh " in 1942 edition, if

lal kitab was all about picking up book and finding which house has which planet

and prescribing remedies given, i am sure sir that half of india would have

mastered the art.

Sincerely

Jitin Syal

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Jatin ji,

>

> Where it is written in Lal Kitab that we can not prescribe remedies without

> calculating " bud ka bhed/ budh ki tabiyat " , especially when we are

> prescribing remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab itself for a planet in a house?

> Do you feel that Lal Kitab author didn't know Lal Kitab by mentioning remedy

> for Budh in each house?

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, JITIN <jitinsyal82 wrote:

>

> >

> > Respected Punit ji, how can you blame mercury and prescribe remedies

> > without calculating " budh ka khas bhed/budh ki tabiyat " ??

> >

> > Awaiting your reply

> > Jitin syal

> >

> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey

> > <punitp@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Manni ji,

> > >

> > > I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house and

> > your

> > > job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two independent

> > > events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter and

> > > Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies for

> > the

> > > same.

> > >

> > > I wish you all the best.

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > > Dear Punit ji,

> > > >

> > > > I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done on

> > > > wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

> > > > diameter.

> > > >

> > > > I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

> > > >

> > > > Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and

> > pukraj

> > > > and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring finger.

> > is

> > > > this ok.

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your help.

> > > >

> > > > But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to have

> > > > purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to do

> > shani

> > > > pooja for this.

> > > >

> > > > Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to

> > buying

> > > > house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

> > > >

> > > > Many thanks for your help.

> > > >

> > > > Manni.

> > > >

> > > > --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp@>* wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@>

> >

> > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > >

> > > > *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of

> > improvement.*

> > > > As

> > > > I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets afflicted

> > in

> > > > your chart.

> > > >

> > > > In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

> > > >

> > > > As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am

> > sure

> > > > that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity. Both

> > Job

> > > > and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

> > > >

> > > > Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, <manni7rehal@<

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> >

> > > > >wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to wear

> > a

> > > > > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle which

> > has

> > > > a

> > > > > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle there is

> > a

> > > > rud

> > > > > raksh - is this ok?

> > > > >

> > > > > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> > > > > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my right

> > leg,

> > > > > vericose veins.

> > > > >

> > > > > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in at

> > the

> > > > > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

> > > > contract,

> > > > > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started, the

> > > > > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can start,

> > but

> > > > this

> > > > > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support my

> > > > family.

> > > > > I have been looking for a job also.

> > > > >

> > > > > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think I

> > might

> > > > > get it?

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for your help once again

> > > > >

> > > > > Manni

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>* wrote:punitp@<

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@>

> > > > <wrote%3Apunitp@<

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@<

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@>

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > house

> > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > > >

> > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > > > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem.

> > Till

> > > > the

> > > > > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the

> > solution.

> > > > In

> > > > > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is influenced

> > by

> > > > > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury

> > will be

> > > > > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen your

> > job

> > > > > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji

> > visiting

> > > > > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know

> > Mercury

> > > > > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> > > > > Mercury's fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you are

> > in

> > > > its

> > > > > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th house

> > get

> > > > the

> > > > > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very

> > powerful.

> > > > > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more

> > badly.

> > > > > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house of

> > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> > > > > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your chart.

> > > > > Perform following remedies –

> > > > > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with

> > Saturn

> > > > due

> > > > > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin

> > around

> > > > > your

> > > > > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it will

> > reduce

> > > > > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

> > > > remedies,

> > > > > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> > > > > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported Jupiter.

> > > > Moon

> > > > > in 8th house doesn't look strong enough to me that can support

> > Jupiter.

> > > > So

> > > > > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you can

> > give

> > > > > Moon's support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing silver

> > on

> > > > > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because of

> > > > Moon's

> > > > > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

> > > > >

> > > > > You should perform above two remedies and only after this, perform

> > any

> > > > > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your

> > birth

> > > > > chart and not in annual chart.

> > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > Wish you all the best.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > >

> > > > > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having health

> > > > > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any

> > health

> > > > > related problem recently?

> > > > >

> > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <manni7rehal@<

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> >

> > > > > >wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Punit Pandit ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

> > > > interview

> > > > > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from my

> > > > > previous

> > > > > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the present

> > job

> > > > was

> > > > > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored,

> > then

> > > > in

> > > > > mid

> > > > > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a battery

> > in a

> > > > > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then later

> > led to

> > > > > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean time i

> > > > have

> > > > > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are due

> > to

> > > > > start

> > > > > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr

> > income.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me some

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > > money to put down as deposit.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid August.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun and

> > shani

> > > > > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house and

> > sun

> > > > > moving

> > > > > > from my 8th house? is this true,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be

> > good in

> > > > > my

> > > > > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > many thanks to all who help me

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manni

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@<

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> >

> > > > > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@<

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@

> >

> > > > ><kulbirbains%

> > > > > 40.co.in>>

> > > > >

> > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th house

> > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

> > > > ><lalkitab%

> > > > > 40>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear jitin;

> > > > > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial

> > downfall,

> > > > > he

> > > > > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect only.

> > > > > > yes i know

> > > > > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book says, i

> > gave

> > > > > you

> > > > > > the context to look into.

> > > > > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition to

> > stock.

> > > > > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes under

> > > > > duress.

> > > > > > hope this clarifies.

> > > > > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in 5th

> > house,

> > > > > it

> > > > > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do raangi

> > chal,

> > > > > dos

> > > > > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in other

> > > > > 12houses.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal, but

> > then

> > > > > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive

> > matters

> > > > > like

> > > > > > tewa darusti.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native with

> > > > saturn

> > > > > 1o

> > > > > > constructing a house and losing a job.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > > > > > participating;

> > > > > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you understand

> > > > what

> > > > > i

> > > > > > mean.

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > >

> > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > my thoughts??

> > > > > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane waala

> > > > saap "

> > > > > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of

> > malefic

> > > > > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you would

> > know

> > > > > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things ruled

> > by

> > > > 2

> > > > > > > completely different planets.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > > > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ...... do

> > i

> > > > need

> > > > > > to

> > > > > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or malefic??

> > > > > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and shani

> > 7

> > > > (in

> > > > > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation to

> > you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of native's

> > life

> > > > in

> > > > > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too but at

> > the

> > > > > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

> > > > conjoined

> > > > > > > by enemy (sun11).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep sharing

> > your

> > > > > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to actually

> > > > > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all the

> > best

> > > > in

> > > > > > > helping this native.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing it

> > for

> > > > you

> > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> > > > taraf

> > > > > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI KA

> > HAAL

> > > > > HOGA

> > > > > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI

> > HOGI

> > > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> > MAIDAAN

> > > > > SAB

> > > > > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE WALE

> > KI

> > > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN SAAL

> > HAR

> > > > > TARAH

> > > > > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO KA

> > HI

> > > > > UMADA

> > > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> > year.plus

> > > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to harm

> > one's

> > > > > job

> > > > > > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to explain

> > that

> > > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move

> > planets

> > > > at

> > > > > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances, actions,

> > that

> > > > > we

> > > > > > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why you

> > > > asked

> > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> > someone's

> > > > > > > job??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam kundli

> > mein

> > > > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo taraf

> > maar

> > > > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your question of

> > why

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's living,

> > and

> > > > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60 saal

> > umda "

> > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

> > house.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets

> > assume)

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to rahu

> > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can bring

> > such

> > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is 15

> > nov

> > > > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd year.

> > even

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in

> > house no

> > > > 7

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33, that

> > > > could

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as your

> > chart

> > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

> > shows

> > > > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen people

> > with

> > > > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32 years

> > of

> > > > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told

> > that i

> > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age, that

> > why

> > > > i

> > > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and am

> > very

> > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

November 21, 2009

Dear Jitin ji,

You didn't answer my both the questions -

1. Has Lal Kitab author mentioned anywhere that remedies for Budh can not be

suggested without ascertaining budh ka bhed?

2. Do you say that Lal Kitab author didn't know Lal Kitab when he suggested

remedies for Budh in 11th? Generally you find notes at all the places in Lal

Kitab but you will not find any note for Budh ka bhed.

Be specific and answer the question with any reference from Lal Kitab, if

you have.

You need to understand that Lal Kitab is not predictive astrology. Lal Kitab

is an astrology which ascertain nature of planet by various methods whether

those are vastu, palmistry or asking questions. Budh ka bhed is also a tool

like many other tool in Lal Kitab. You can not say that I didn't check

palmistry but Lal Kitab author has devotes a whole book on palmistry and

hence my analysis is incorrect. If one can ascertain nature of planet with

palmistry, well and good. It is not true otherwise. Analysis doesn't become

incorrect just because I didn't use palmistry and Lal Kitab author devoted a

book on palmistry. I hope you get my point now.

Thanks & Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM, JITIN <jitinsyal82 wrote:

>

> Punit ji,

>

> Hence you think it's not important enough to find out " budh ki tabiyat "

> before blaming budh for native's loss of job??

>

> Also the author of lal kitab wrote 2 pages on " budh ka bedh " in 1942

> edition, if lal kitab was all about picking up book and finding which house

> has which planet and prescribing remedies given, i am sure sir that half of

> india would have mastered the art.

>

> Sincerely

>

> Jitin Syal

>

> lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey

> <punitp wrote:

> >

> > Dear Jatin ji,

> >

> > Where it is written in Lal Kitab that we can not prescribe remedies

> without

> > calculating " bud ka bhed/ budh ki tabiyat " , especially when we are

> > prescribing remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab itself for a planet in a

> house?

> > Do you feel that Lal Kitab author didn't know Lal Kitab by mentioning

> remedy

> > for Budh in each house?

> >

> > Thanks & Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, JITIN <jitinsyal82 wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Respected Punit ji, how can you blame mercury and prescribe remedies

> > > without calculating " budh ka khas bhed/budh ki tabiyat " ??

> > >

> > > Awaiting your reply

> > > Jitin syal

> > >

> > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40>, Punit Pandey

>

> > > <punitp@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > >

> > > > I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house

> and

> > > your

> > > > job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two

> independent

> > > > events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter

> and

> > > > Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies

> for

> > > the

> > > > same.

> > > >

> > > > I wish you all the best.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Punit Pandey

> > > >

> > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > Dear Punit ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done

> on

> > > > > wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

> > > > > diameter.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and

> > > pukraj

> > > > > and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring

> finger.

> > > is

> > > > > this ok.

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for your help.

> > > > >

> > > > > But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to

> have

> > > > > purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to

> do

> > > shani

> > > > > pooja for this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to

> > > buying

> > > > > house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

> > > > >

> > > > > Many thanks for your help.

> > > > >

> > > > > Manni.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp@>* wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@>

> > >

> > > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> house

> > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40>

>

> > > > >

> > > > > Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of

> > > improvement.*

> > > > > As

> > > > > I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets

> afflicted

> > > in

> > > > > your chart.

> > > > >

> > > > > In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

> > > > >

> > > > > As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am

> > > sure

> > > > > that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity.

> Both

> > > Job

> > > > > and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

> > > > >

> > > > > Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > >

> > > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, <manni7rehal@<

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> > >

> > > > > >wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to

> wear

> > > a

> > > > > > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle

> which

> > > has

> > > > > a

> > > > > > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle

> there is

> > > a

> > > > > rud

> > > > > > raksh - is this ok?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> > > > > > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my

> right

> > > leg,

> > > > > > vericose veins.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in

> at

> > > the

> > > > > > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

> > > > > contract,

> > > > > > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started,

> the

> > > > > > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can

> start,

> > > but

> > > > > this

> > > > > > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support

> my

> > > > > family.

> > > > > > I have been looking for a job also.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think

> I

> > > might

> > > > > > get it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for your help once again

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manni

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>* wrote:punitp@<

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@>

> > > > > <wrote%3Apunitp@<

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@<

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@>

> > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > > house

> > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40><

>

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > > > > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem.

> > > Till

> > > > > the

> > > > > > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the

> > > solution.

> > > > > In

> > > > > > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is

> influenced

> > > by

> > > > > > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury

> > > will be

> > > > > > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen

> your

> > > job

> > > > > > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji

> > > visiting

> > > > > > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know

> > > Mercury

> > > > > > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> > > > > > Mercury's fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you

> are

> > > in

> > > > > its

> > > > > > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th

> house

> > > get

> > > > > the

> > > > > > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very

> > > powerful.

> > > > > > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more

> > > badly.

> > > > > > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house

> of

> > > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> > > > > > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your

> chart.

> > > > > > Perform following remedies –

> > > > > > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with

> > > Saturn

> > > > > due

> > > > > > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin

> > > around

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it

> will

> > > reduce

> > > > > > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

> > > > > remedies,

> > > > > > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> > > > > > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported

> Jupiter.

> > > > > Moon

> > > > > > in 8th house doesn't look strong enough to me that can support

> > > Jupiter.

> > > > > So

> > > > > > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you

> can

> > > give

> > > > > > Moon's support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing

> silver

> > > on

> > > > > > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because

> of

> > > > > Moon's

> > > > > > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You should perform above two remedies and only after this,

> perform

> > > any

> > > > > > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your

> > > birth

> > > > > > chart and not in annual chart.

> > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > Wish you all the best.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > >

> > > > > > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having

> health

> > > > > > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any

> > > health

> > > > > > related problem recently?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <manni7rehal@<

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> > >

> > > > > > >wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Punit Pandit ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

> > > > > interview

> > > > > > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from

> my

> > > > > > previous

> > > > > > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the

> present

> > > job

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored,

> > > then

> > > > > in

> > > > > > mid

> > > > > > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a

> battery

> > > in a

> > > > > > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then

> later

> > > led to

> > > > > > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean

> time i

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are

> due

> > > to

> > > > > > start

> > > > > > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr

> > > income.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me

> some

> > > of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > money to put down as deposit.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid

> August.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun

> and

> > > shani

> > > > > > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house

> and

> > > sun

> > > > > > moving

> > > > > > > from my 8th house? is this true,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be

> > > good in

> > > > > > my

> > > > > > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > many thanks to all who help me

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@<

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > >

> > > > > > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@<

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@

> > >

> > > > > ><kulbirbains%

> > > > > > 40.co.in>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> house

> > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> 40><

>

> > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > > > > <

> http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

> > > > > ><lalkitab%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear jitin;

> > > > > > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial

> > > downfall,

> > > > > > he

> > > > > > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect

> only.

> > > > > > > yes i know

> > > > > > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book

> says, i

> > > gave

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > the context to look into.

> > > > > > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition

> to

> > > stock.

> > > > > > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes

> under

> > > > > > duress.

> > > > > > > hope this clarifies.

> > > > > > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in

> 5th

> > > house,

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do

> raangi

> > > chal,

> > > > > > dos

> > > > > > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in

> other

> > > > > > 12houses.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal,

> but

> > > then

> > > > > > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive

> > > matters

> > > > > > like

> > > > > > > tewa darusti.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native

> with

> > > > > saturn

> > > > > > 1o

> > > > > > > constructing a house and losing a job.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > > > > > > participating;

> > > > > > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you

> understand

> > > > > what

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > mean.

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > my thoughts??

> > > > > > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane

> waala

> > > > > saap "

> > > > > > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of

> > > malefic

> > > > > > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you

> would

> > > know

> > > > > > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things

> ruled

> > > by

> > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > completely different planets.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > > > > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ......

> do

> > > i

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or

> malefic??

> > > > > > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and

> shani

> > > 7

> > > > > (in

> > > > > > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation

> to

> > > you.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of

> native's

> > > life

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too

> but at

> > > the

> > > > > > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

> > > > > conjoined

> > > > > > > > by enemy (sun11).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep

> sharing

> > > your

> > > > > > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to

> actually

> > > > > > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all

> the

> > > best

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > helping this native.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing

> it

> > > for

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein

> charo

> > > > > taraf

> > > > > > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI

> KA

> > > HAAL

> > > > > > HOGA

> > > > > > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI

> > > HOGI

> > > > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> > > MAIDAAN

> > > > > > SAB

> > > > > > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE

> WALE

> > > KI

> > > > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN

> SAAL

> > > HAR

> > > > > > TARAH

> > > > > > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO

> KA

> > > HI

> > > > > > UMADA

> > > > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> > > year.plus

> > > > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to

> harm

> > > one's

> > > > > > job

> > > > > > > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to

> explain

> > > that

> > > > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move

> > > planets

> > > > > at

> > > > > > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances,

> actions,

> > > that

> > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why

> you

> > > > > asked

> > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> > > someone's

> > > > > > > > job??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam

> kundli

> > > mein

> > > > > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> taraf

> > > maar

> > > > > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your

> question of

> > > why

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's

> living,

> > > and

> > > > > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60

> saal

> > > umda "

> > > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

> > > house.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets

> > > assume)

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to

> rahu

> > > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can

> bring

> > > such

> > > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is

> 15

> > > nov

> > > > > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd

> year.

> > > even

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in

> > > house no

> > > > > 7

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33,

> that

> > > > > could

> > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as

> your

> > > chart

> > > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

> > > shows

> > > > > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen

> people

> > > with

> > > > > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32

> years

> > > of

> > > > > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told

> > > that i

> > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age,

> that

> > > why

> > > > > i

> > > > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and

> am

> > > very

> > > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

November 23, 2009

Redgarding budh ka bhed;

it is mentioned in gutka that the calculation of nature of mercury will help in

determining the effect of that planet, whose nature is assigned to mercury in

the tenure of mercury i.e. 34 and 35th year. if the planet is malefic it will

become double malefic during that period.

it is only applicable to janam kundali.

as far as remedy is concerned; remedy of mercury will be related to mercury in

natal or varshphal.irrespective of this nature.

e.g. in mercury 8 with some planet in house no 2 the prescribed method of remedy

does not take nature of budh in account.

same is the case in other houses including house no 11. currently under

discussion.

regards

kulbir

lalkitab , Punit Pandey <punitp wrote:

>

> Dear Jitin ji,

>

> You didn't answer my both the questions -

> 1. Has Lal Kitab author mentioned anywhere that remedies for Budh can not be

> suggested without ascertaining budh ka bhed?

> 2. Do you say that Lal Kitab author didn't know Lal Kitab when he suggested

> remedies for Budh in 11th? Generally you find notes at all the places in Lal

> Kitab but you will not find any note for Budh ka bhed.

>

> Be specific and answer the question with any reference from Lal Kitab, if

> you have.

>

> You need to understand that Lal Kitab is not predictive astrology. Lal Kitab

> is an astrology which ascertain nature of planet by various methods whether

> those are vastu, palmistry or asking questions. Budh ka bhed is also a tool

> like many other tool in Lal Kitab. You can not say that I didn't check

> palmistry but Lal Kitab author has devotes a whole book on palmistry and

> hence my analysis is incorrect. If one can ascertain nature of planet with

> palmistry, well and good. It is not true otherwise. Analysis doesn't become

> incorrect just because I didn't use palmistry and Lal Kitab author devoted a

> book on palmistry. I hope you get my point now.

>

> Thanks & Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM, JITIN <jitinsyal82 wrote:

>

> >

> > Punit ji,

> >

> > Hence you think it's not important enough to find out " budh ki tabiyat "

> > before blaming budh for native's loss of job??

> >

> > Also the author of lal kitab wrote 2 pages on " budh ka bedh " in 1942

> > edition, if lal kitab was all about picking up book and finding which house

> > has which planet and prescribing remedies given, i am sure sir that half of

> > india would have mastered the art.

> >

> > Sincerely

> >

> > Jitin Syal

> >

> > lalkitab <lalkitab%40>, Punit Pandey

> > <punitp@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Jatin ji,

> > >

> > > Where it is written in Lal Kitab that we can not prescribe remedies

> > without

> > > calculating " bud ka bhed/ budh ki tabiyat " , especially when we are

> > > prescribing remedies mentioned in Lal Kitab itself for a planet in a

> > house?

> > > Do you feel that Lal Kitab author didn't know Lal Kitab by mentioning

> > remedy

> > > for Budh in each house?

> > >

> > > Thanks & Regards,

> > >

> > > Punit Pandey

> > >

> > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, JITIN <jitinsyal82@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Punit ji, how can you blame mercury and prescribe remedies

> > > > without calculating " budh ka khas bhed/budh ki tabiyat " ??

> > > >

> > > > Awaiting your reply

> > > > Jitin syal

> > > >

> > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40>, Punit Pandey

> >

> > > > <punitp@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not see any direct relationship between purchase of the house

> > and

> > > > your

> > > > > job problem. You losing the job and buying a house are two

> > independent

> > > > > events and should be treated that way. As mentioned earlier, Jupiter

> > and

> > > > > Mercury seems to be creating problem and I have suggested remedies

> > for

> > > > the

> > > > > same.

> > > > >

> > > > > I wish you all the best.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > >

> > > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:07 PM, wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Punit ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a copper coin in white thread around my kneck, this was done

> > on

> > > > > > wednesday 18th November at 5.15pm. the size of the coin is 2.5cm in

> > > > > > diameter.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have a interview in the government this friday, wish me well.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also i have taken off the triangle which has the moti, monnga and

> > > > pukraj

> > > > > > and i have left the ruby which is in the ring in my right ring

> > finger.

> > > > is

> > > > > > this ok.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for your help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But one big question, which has not been cleared - was it ok to

> > have

> > > > > > purhcased a house while shani in 9th?, I have got a local pandit to

> > do

> > > > shani

> > > > > > pooja for this.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Was this the righ thing to do, and finally loosing the job due to

> > > > buying

> > > > > > house( shani in 9th) or was it due to Mercury as mentioned.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Many thanks for your help.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Manni.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On *Tue, 17/11/09, Punit Pandey <punitp@>* wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@>

> > > >

> > > > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > house

> > > > > > lalkitab <lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40>

> >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tuesday, 17 November, 2009, 5:36

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Please perform suggested remedies and I am very hopeful of

> > > > improvement.*

> > > > > > As

> > > > > > I mentioned earlier, Jupiter and Mercury are the two planets

> > afflicted

> > > > in

> > > > > > your chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my opinion, Job is better suited to you than business.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > As you are passing through Mercury cycle who is a dual planet, I am

> > > > sure

> > > > > > that you will take a job and do business as a secondary activity.

> > Both

> > > > Job

> > > > > > and Business will go simultaneously, but Job will become primary.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Gemstones you are using seems OK to me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:08 PM, <manni7rehal@<

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> > > >

> > > > > > >wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Pandit Punit ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many thanks for your advise, few years back my parents got me to

> > wear

> > > > a

> > > > > > > rubyin gold on my right hand ring finger, also a gold triangle

> > which

> > > > has

> > > > > > a

> > > > > > > moti, pukraj and moonga in it, at the bottom of the triangle

> > there is

> > > > a

> > > > > > rud

> > > > > > > raksh - is this ok?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My father health is not well and my mother is not well either.

> > > > > > > I do not have probles with speaking, I had a operation in my

> > right

> > > > leg,

> > > > > > > vericose veins.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Something strange is happening - I lost my job in august, but in

> > at

> > > > the

> > > > > > > begiing of october I had submitted a quotation for a mainetenance

> > > > > > contract,

> > > > > > > on my birhday the contract was acceped and the work has started,

> > the

> > > > > > > money is very little, but a profile for my tiny company can

> > start,

> > > > but

> > > > > > this

> > > > > > > is no were near the money i was on before and also cannot support

> > my

> > > > > > family.

> > > > > > > I have been looking for a job also.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What do you advice me job or business , if job when do you think

> > I

> > > > might

> > > > > > > get it?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Many thanks for your help once again

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 16/11/09, Punit Pandey <>* wrote:punitp@<

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@>

> > > > > > <wrote%3Apunitp@<

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=3Apunitp@>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Punit Pandey <punitp@<

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=punitp@>

> > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Re: [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > > > house

> > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40><

> >

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Monday, 16 November, 2009, 15:21

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Manni ji,

> > > > > > > As I mentioned earlier Mercury is the root cause of your problem.

> > > > Till

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > time we understand the root cause, we cannot come up with the

> > > > solution.

> > > > > > In

> > > > > > > your birth chart, Mercury is in 11th house. 11th house is

> > influenced

> > > > by

> > > > > > > Jupiter (elderly people) and Saturn (Job, house etc.). If Mercury

> > > > will be

> > > > > > > affected it will in turn affect these two planets. You have seen

> > your

> > > > job

> > > > > > > affected this year. You got the indication through your maser ji

> > > > visiting

> > > > > > > your place at the same time and your trouble started. As you know

> > > > Mercury

> > > > > > > represents maser ji in Indian astrology.

> > > > > > > Mercury's fixed cycle starts from 33rd year of your age and you

> > are

> > > > in

> > > > > > its

> > > > > > > influence. On top of that during 34th year, planets from 11th

> > house

> > > > get

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > first house which is called Takht in Lal Kitab and becomes very

> > > > powerful.

> > > > > > > Which means that Mercury will affect Jupiter and Saturn even more

> > > > badly.

> > > > > > > Generally Saturn is friendly to Mercury, but being in the house

> > of

> > > > > > Jupiter,

> > > > > > > it is not sparing Saturn as well.

> > > > > > > In my opinion, you need remedy for Jupiter and Mercury in your

> > chart.

> > > > > > > Perform following remedies –

> > > > > > > 1. Sun is friendly to Mercury and Jupiter and also goes OK with

> > > > Saturn

> > > > > > due

> > > > > > > to father-son relationship. So in your case, wearing copper coin

> > > > around

> > > > > > > your

> > > > > > > neck should work wonderfully. Try it and I am hopeful that it

> > will

> > > > reduce

> > > > > > > your problem to some extent. We cannot always solve problems with

> > > > > > remedies,

> > > > > > > but yours is a case where remedies do have potential.

> > > > > > > If you are wearing any Tabeez, you should remove that.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > 2. Coming to Jupiter, in your case Moon could have supported

> > Jupiter.

> > > > > > Moon

> > > > > > > in 8th house doesn't look strong enough to me that can support

> > > > Jupiter.

> > > > > > So

> > > > > > > situation is a little tricky here. Some of the ways by which you

> > can

> > > > give

> > > > > > > Moon's support to Jupiter is by taking bath in rain or wearing

> > silver

> > > > on

> > > > > > > your body. Though I am not very confident of this remedy because

> > of

> > > > > > Moon's

> > > > > > > placement. Though no harm in trying, in my opinion.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You should perform above two remedies and only after this,

> > perform

> > > > any

> > > > > > > remedy for varshphal as it seems that root cause is there in your

> > > > birth

> > > > > > > chart and not in annual chart.

> > > > > > > Hope it helps.

> > > > > > > Wish you all the best.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Punit Pandey

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PS: Do you have any problem in speaking? Your father is having

> > health

> > > > > > > problems especially related to respiratory system? Do you got any

> > > > health

> > > > > > > related problem recently?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <manni7rehal@<

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> > > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=manni7rehal@>

> > > >

> > > > > > > >wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Punit Pandit ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I was looking to move from my job back in march, when i had an

> > > > > > interview

> > > > > > > > and got the offer of the job, due to a very bad reference from

> > my

> > > > > > > previous

> > > > > > > > emplyer the offer was withdrawn and my position from the

> > present

> > > > job

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > made to senior from manager. i was getting bored, really bored,

> > > > then

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > mid

> > > > > > > > june a something that i forgot to do last year( replace a

> > battery

> > > > in a

> > > > > > > > medical device) was picked up by a audit person, this then

> > later

> > > > led to

> > > > > > > > suspension and by end of august i had to resign.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > since august 2009, i have been looking for a job, in te mean

> > time i

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > managed to start a small company, i have one contract, we are

> > due

> > > > to

> > > > > > > start

> > > > > > > > work this week, but as a family man i need to have a regualr

> > > > income.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the purchase of the was helped by my mum and dad, who gave me

> > some

> > > > of

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > money to put down as deposit.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > and yes, my maser ji cam in begining of june and left mid

> > August.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The astrologer also tells me that the job was lost due to sun

> > and

> > > > shani

> > > > > > > > moving forward in varshapl, ie shani going into my 11th house

> > and

> > > > sun

> > > > > > > moving

> > > > > > > > from my 8th house? is this true,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I am really concerned with my job, please help- should shani be

> > > > good in

> > > > > > > my

> > > > > > > > 11th house now, and will jupitor also be good in my 4th house-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > many thanks to all who help me

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Manni

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/11/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@<

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > > >

> > > > > > > <kulbirbains%40.co.in>>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kulbir <kulbirbains@<

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@>

> > > > > > <http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=kulbirbains@

> > > >

> > > > > > ><kulbirbains%

> > > > > > > 40.co.in>>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: purchased a house while shani in 9th

> > house

> > > > > > > > lalkitab

<lalkitab%40><lalkitab%

> > 40><

> >

> > > > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab >

> > > > > > <

> > http://uk.mc239.mail./mc/compose?to=lalkitab

> > > > > > ><lalkitab%

> > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Friday, 6 November, 2009, 9:16

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear jitin;

> > > > > > > > manni asked, did his aquisition of house led to his financial

> > > > downfall,

> > > > > > > he

> > > > > > > > interprtetted it as loss of job; so reply is in that contect

> > only.

> > > > > > > > yes i know

> > > > > > > > ''chandra dhan shanichar khazanchi hota hai''

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i am not claiming anything i am just quoting what the book

> > says, i

> > > > gave

> > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > the context to look into.

> > > > > > > > wealth means stock, job means source of income, i.e. addition

> > to

> > > > stock.

> > > > > > > > loss of job means loss of source of income i.e. wealth comes

> > under

> > > > > > > duress.

> > > > > > > > hope this clarifies.

> > > > > > > > shani is not exclusively assigned the job of bache khaane in

> > 5th

> > > > house,

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > has various other aspects also. please go through the book.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > various types of jobs comes under different planets.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > pt ji didn't place saturn on 9 on any special pedestal, do

> > raangi

> > > > chal,

> > > > > > > dos

> > > > > > > > and donot are prescribed for it like every other planet in

> > other

> > > > > > > 12houses.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i feel sorry that you don't have enough time at your disposal,

> > but

> > > > then

> > > > > > > > with such a busy schedule please don't issue edicts on senstive

> > > > matters

> > > > > > > like

> > > > > > > > tewa darusti.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if u get time please let me know how it is typical of native

> > with

> > > > > > saturn

> > > > > > > 1o

> > > > > > > > constructing a house and losing a job.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > i will definetely try my level best to help manni but he is not

> > > > > > > > participating;

> > > > > > > > may be i stopped his tewa from being rectified, hope you

> > understand

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > mean.

> > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " <jitinsyal82@ ...>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > my thoughts??

> > > > > > > > > well, i am still confused as to since when a " bache khaane

> > waala

> > > > > > saap "

> > > > > > > > > became a " naukri khane waale saap " ?? as far as your claims of

> > > > malefic

> > > > > > > > > saturn in 5 goes (about destroying wealth). i am sure you

> > would

> > > > know

> > > > > > > > > that in LK wealth and job are 2 completely different things

> > ruled

> > > > by

> > > > > > 2

> > > > > > > > > completely different planets.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > secondly if we look at the varshphal chart then

> > > > > > > > > ketu-3, saturn-5, jupiter-9 and rahu-11..... ......... ......

> > do

> > > > i

> > > > > > need

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > say more about whether this shani would be benefic or

> > malefic??

> > > > > > > > > now if we take saturn in 10 in janam kundli, then sun 4 and

> > shani

> > > > 7

> > > > > > (in

> > > > > > > > > 33rd year varshphal chart) will explain the whole situation

> > to

> > > > you.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > above all Pt. ji has praised shani 9 in all fields of

> > native's

> > > > life

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > all the editions, he wrote similar things for shani 10 too

> > but at

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > > same time has warned that shani 10 has tendency to go evil if

> > > > > > conjoined

> > > > > > > > > by enemy (sun11).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > i still consider you a learned individual so please keep

> > sharing

> > > > your

> > > > > > > > > knowledge. i wish i had more spare time on my hand to

> > actually

> > > > > > > > > participate more but unfortunately i can't, i wish you all

> > the

> > > > best

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > helping this native.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > " kulbir " <kulbirbains@ > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, please quote the context in whole, i am doing

> > it

> > > > for

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > ''1942'' number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein

> > charo

> > > > > > taraf

> > > > > > > > > maar karta hai AUR SHANI BRAHSPATI MUSHTARKA FAKIR KI JHOLI

> > KA

> > > > HAAL

> > > > > > > HOGA

> > > > > > > > > JISKA FAISLA KHANNA NO 11 KE GRAH KARENGE AUR KUNDALI KHAS HI

> > > > HOGI

> > > > > > > > > 3-9-15-21-27- 33...117 IK JAMA SIFAR 10 YA DASWAN PAR AKHIRI

> > > > MAIDAAN

> > > > > > > SAB

> > > > > > > > > KI KISMAT GANESH JI KI TARAH UTTAM PHAL DEGI''

> > > > > > > > > > for further explanation

> > > > > > > > > > ''1952'' SHANI 10 NEK HALAT..PT NO. 2 PITA KI AAYU KA TEWE

> > WALE

> > > > KI

> > > > > > > > > KAM SE KAM 48 SAAL UMAR TAK SAATH HOGA. SHANI HAR SATWEIN

> > SAAL

> > > > HAR

> > > > > > > TARAH

> > > > > > > > > SE MAAN DHAN KI BARKAT DEGA AUR KHUD SHANI AUR BRAHSPAT DONO

> > KA

> > > > HI

> > > > > > > UMADA

> > > > > > > > > PRABHAC HOGA. 3-9-15-21-33. ..117.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > i think this will explain shani is bad or good in 33rd

> > > > year.plus

> > > > > > > > > shani in varshphal in 7 is good or bad?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > shani in 5 in varshphal shows conflict with sun.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > kindly explain as to how it's '' typical of shani 10 to

> > harm

> > > > one's

> > > > > > > job

> > > > > > > > > if he constructs a house.?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > coming to your first question i posted this message to

> > explain

> > > > that

> > > > > > > > > tewa darusti is no juggling with planets where you can move

> > > > planets

> > > > > > at

> > > > > > > > > will. it happens firstly due to native's circumstances,

> > actions,

> > > > that

> > > > > > > we

> > > > > > > > > don't know from the posted message.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > now what are your thoughts?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > kulbir

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN " jitinsyal82@wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > respected kulbit paaji,

> > > > > > > > > > > i always admired your LK knowledge but i am not sure why

> > you

> > > > > > asked

> > > > > > > > > me

> > > > > > > > > > > such questions??? (i am surprised)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > sir how come a " bache khane waala saap " in no. 5 harm

> > > > someone's

> > > > > > > > > job??

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > also please read in 1942 ghutka under shani 10 " janam

> > kundli

> > > > mein

> > > > > > > > > khana

> > > > > > > > > > > number dus ka sanichar mandarja jail saalon mein charo

> > taraf

> > > > maar

> > > > > > > > > karta

> > > > > > > > > > > hai 3-9-15-21-27- 33 " may be that can ansewr your

> > question of

> > > > why

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > 33rd year.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > also as far as i know shani in 5 never harms one's

> > living,

> > > > and

> > > > > > > > > neither

> > > > > > > > > > > have i seen people with shani 9 suffering a setback after

> > > > > > > > > constructing a

> > > > > > > > > > > house. if anything Pt. ji has described shani 9 as " 60

> > saal

> > > > umda "

> > > > > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > > > > typical of shani 10 to harm one's job if he constructs a

> > > > house.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > moreover this person has ketu in6th shani in 9th (lets

> > > > assume)

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > rahu12th, now that makes shani of benefic nature due to

> > rahu

> > > > > > ketu's

> > > > > > > > > > > placement and i doubt that a benefic shani in 9th can

> > bring

> > > > such

> > > > > > > > > > > adversities.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > what's your thoughts??

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " kulbir " <kulbirbains@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear jitin, manni lost his job in aug 2009, his dob is

> > 15

> > > > nov

> > > > > > > > > 1976, it

> > > > > > > > > > > means in his 33rd running year.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 1.But saturn no. 10 is very/extra beneficial in 33rd

> > year.

> > > > even

> > > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > > > > brings beneficial results of jupiter alongwith. it is in

> > > > house no

> > > > > > 7

> > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > varshphal.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. saturn no.9 comes in 5th house in varshphal in 33,

> > that

> > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > > > > > bad.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > what is there to rectify?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > kulbir.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " JITIN "

> > <jitinsyal82@ >

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni sahib,

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is better that you get professional advice, as

> > your

> > > > chart

> > > > > > > > > might

> > > > > > > > > > > need a rectification (darustee), below mentioned instance

> > > > shows

> > > > > > > > > signs of

> > > > > > > > > > > shani in 10th rather than 9th, as i have hardly seen

> > people

> > > > with

> > > > > > > > > shani 9

> > > > > > > > > > > struggling in their life.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > As i said you will need an expert advice.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards and all the best

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jitin Syal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab@ s.com, " Manni "

> >

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear sir

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have purchased a house last year, when i was 32

> > years

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > age.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > i have lost my job in august 2009, i have been told

> > > > that i

> > > > > > > > > should

> > > > > > > > > > > not have purchased a house until i was 44 years of age,

> > that

> > > > why

> > > > > > i

> > > > > > > > > lost

> > > > > > > > > > > ,my job.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > what can i do now, i have a family to support and

> > am

> > > > very

> > > > > > > > > > > confused.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > can i correct this by doing some remedy?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > my d.o.b is 15/10/76

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > time: 9.30am

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > place: ludhiana, punjab

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > many thanks

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > manni

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

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