Sachin's birth details sai 26th

February 26, 2010

I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like

you as I prefer writing in brief.

regds

Dev

, sairam nat <sairaman53

wrote:

>

> Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÂ a person reached a stage

people discuss highlighting positive thingsÂ they Â see in the hor. justifying

the natives present position

>

> however if it is seen in different angleÂ do not give a rosy picture

>

> ::all planets between raghuÂ and Â kethu

>

> 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord

>

> 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th

>

> lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for

lagnaÂ and dispositor of kethu

>

> saturn in an angle 9th houseÂ

>

> raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house

>

> moon with raghuÂ and Â venus with sun notÂ goodÂ in Â traditional view

>

> 1 5 9Â housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong

>

> canÂ

> keep on describing negative areas is of no use

>

> as many astrologers justify above forÂ things for a positive achievements in

life

>

> if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÂ Â may fail to

justify

>

> same time many persons areÂ bornÂ Â then we go to vargas which is not much

popular or discussed in lengthÂ

>

> can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls

observe

>

> fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are

discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÂ

>

> with regards

> sairaman

>

> Â

>

> ________________________________

> vijay.goel <goyalvj

>

> Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM

> Re: Sachin's birth details

>

> Â

>

> Respected Bhaskerji,

>

> //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and

this is the way they must be used always.//

>

> I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this

forum and once personally to me.

> If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .

> Your happiness is the A+ grading for me

> Thankyou.

>

> //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these

details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//

>

> In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is

'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.

>

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> >

> > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other

> > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some

> > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not

> > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..

> >

> > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's

> > and this is the way they must be used always.

> >

> > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not

> > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my

> > records.

> >

> > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.

> >

> > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea

> > of the right Lagna.

> >

> > best wishes,

> >

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > >

> > > Data 1

> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > >

> > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1

> > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2

> > >

> > > Data 2

> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > >

> > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3

> > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4

> > >

> > > This is as per Jhora.

> > >

> > > Thankyou

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > >

> > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me

> > the

> > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.

> > > > >

> > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling

> > > > planet

> > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know

> > > that

> > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment.

> > > > >

> > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]

> > > > >

> > > > > Data 1

> > > > >

> > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > >

> > > > > April 21, 1973

> > > > > Time: 18:01:00

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > >

> > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > sign lord: mercury

> > > > > star lord : Mars

> > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.

> > > > >

> > > > > Data 2

> > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > >

> > > > > April 24, 1973

> > > > > Time: 16:28:00

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > >

> > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > sign lord: Mercury

> > > > > star lord : Sun

> > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.

> > > > >

> > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :

> > > > >

> > > > > February 25, 2010

> > > > > Time: 20:41:20

> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 "

> > > > > Jaipur, India

> > > > >

> > > > > LSRD method

> > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day

> > > lord

> > > > > jupiter.

> > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.

> > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].

> > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct

> > with

> > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.

> > > > >

> > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.

> > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be

> > more

> > > > > correct.

> > > > >

> > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thankyou

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > axeplex@

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of

> > Mars

> > > > Dasa

> > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds

> > > better

> > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it

> > is

> > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him

> > to

> > > > such

> > > > > heights.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is

> > conjunting

> > > Ma

> > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regds

> > > > > > Dev

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of

> > > the

> > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct

> > or

> > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all

> > > > could

> > > > > > > elarn from the same..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Girishji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.

> > Anyway,

> > > > > April

> > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference

> > > but

> > > > > three

> > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish

> > menon

> > > > > horamag@

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji

> > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article

> > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared

> > > with

> > > > > Don

> > > > > > > Bradman

> > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at

> > > Durban.

> > > > He

> > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players

> > > > > > > participating

> > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is

> > 4.25

> > > pm

> > > > > which

> > > > > > > is very close to yours.

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Girish

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@

> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ã‚

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

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>

February 27, 2010

Sairamji,

Lenghthy mail takes time....Just to add, few things you have written by mistake

like kala Sarpa Yoga etc. Few of the answers to your questions can be found in

D-charts. Few questions remain unanswered and this is the reaon everybody tries

to learn more and more to know those gaps.(And you can see how even highly

experienced guys in the group would be willing to learn new things).

Same time, same natal ... How would you explain from Kalapurusha Lagna taking as

1st Bhava, Again it would remain same... Please teach me if there is something

else.

Baadhaka Mercury - In 2005, he was running Me AD as per 24th April data, may be

when people were writing him off , could be related to that.... Also Me was not

supportive in D-10.

regds

Dev

, " axeplex " <axeplex wrote:

>

> I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like

you as I prefer writing in brief.

>

> regds

> Dev

>

> , sairam nat <sairaman53@>

wrote:

> >

> > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÂ a person reached a stage

people discuss highlighting positive thingsÂ they Â see in the hor. justifying

the natives present position

> >

> > however if it is seen in different angleÂ do not give a rosy picture

> >

> > ::all planets between raghuÂ and Â kethu

> >

> > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord

> >

> > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th

> >

> > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for

lagnaÂ and dispositor of kethu

> >

> > saturn in an angle 9th houseÂ

> >

> > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house

> >

> > moon with raghuÂ and Â venus with sun notÂ goodÂ in Â traditional view

> >

> > 1 5 9Â housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong

> >

> > canÂ

> > keep on describing negative areas is of no use

> >

> > as many astrologers justify above forÂ things for a positive achievements

in life

> >

> > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÂ Â may fail to

justify

> >

> > same time many persons areÂ bornÂ Â then we go to vargas which is not much

popular or discussed in lengthÂ

> >

> > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls

observe

> >

> > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are

discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÂ

> >

> > with regards

> > sairaman

> >

> > Â

> >

> > ________________________________

> > vijay.goel <goyalvj@>

> >

> > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM

> > Re: Sachin's birth details

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Respected Bhaskerji,

> >

> > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and

this is the way they must be used always.//

> >

> > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this

forum and once personally to me.

> > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .

> > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me

> > Thankyou.

> >

> > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these

details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//

> >

> > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is

'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > >

> > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other

> > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some

> > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not

> > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..

> > >

> > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's

> > > and this is the way they must be used always.

> > >

> > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not

> > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my

> > > records.

> > >

> > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.

> > >

> > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea

> > > of the right Lagna.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > >

> > > > Data 1

> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > > >

> > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1

> > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2

> > > >

> > > > Data 2

> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > > >

> > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3

> > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4

> > > >

> > > > This is as per Jhora.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me

> > > the

> > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling

> > > > > planet

> > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know

> > > > that

> > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Data 1

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > April 21, 1973

> > > > > > Time: 18:01:00

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > > sign lord: mercury

> > > > > > star lord : Mars

> > > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Data 2

> > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > April 24, 1973

> > > > > > Time: 16:28:00

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > > sign lord: Mercury

> > > > > > star lord : Sun

> > > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > February 25, 2010

> > > > > > Time: 20:41:20

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 "

> > > > > > Jaipur, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > LSRD method

> > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day

> > > > lord

> > > > > > jupiter.

> > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.

> > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].

> > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct

> > > with

> > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.

> > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be

> > > more

> > > > > > correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thankyou

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > > axeplex@

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of

> > > Mars

> > > > > Dasa

> > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds

> > > > better

> > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it

> > > is

> > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him

> > > to

> > > > > such

> > > > > > heights.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is

> > > conjunting

> > > > Ma

> > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct

> > > or

> > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all

> > > > > could

> > > > > > > > elarn from the same..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Girishji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.

> > > Anyway,

> > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference

> > > > but

> > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish

> > > menon

> > > > > > horamag@

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji

> > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article

> > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared

> > > > with

> > > > > > Don

> > > > > > > > Bradman

> > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at

> > > > Durban.

> > > > > He

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players

> > > > > > > > participating

> > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is

> > > 4.25

> > > > pm

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > is very close to yours.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Girish

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@

> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ã‚

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth

> > > > > > > > > >

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February 27, 2010

Dear Friends,

In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.

Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.

Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, Cabinet Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna.

Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp.

Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here.

Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.

regards,

Mouji Ram

axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th

I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:>> Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃ‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃ‚ they Ã‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > however if it is seen in different angleÃ‚ do not give a rosy picture> > ::all planets between raghuÃ‚ and Ã‚ kethu> > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th

not sound for lagnaÃ‚ and dispositor of kethu> > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃ‚ > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > moon with raghuÃ‚ and Ã‚ venus with sun notÃ‚ goodÃ‚ in Ã‚ traditional view> > 1 5 9Ã‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > canÃ‚ > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > as many astrologers justify above forÃ‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃ‚ Ã‚ may fail to justify> > same time many persons areÃ‚ bornÃ‚ Ã‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃ‚ > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > fully grown to some ripe stage

and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃ‚ > > with regards > sairaman> > Ã‚ > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay.goel <goyalvj >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > Ã‚ > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > If

someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > Thankyou.> > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > wish to let open a bag of

problems for me)..> > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > records.> > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > of the right Lagna.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > >> > > Data 1> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > >> >

> Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > >> > > Data 2> > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > >> > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > >> > > This is as per Jhora.> > >> > > Thankyou> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > >> > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > the> > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > >> > > > best wishes,> >

> >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > >> > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > >> > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > planet> > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > that> > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > >> > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > >> > > > > Data 1>

> > > >> > > > > Natal Chart> > > > >> > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > >> > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > >> > > > > Data 2> > > > > Natal Chart> > > > >> > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00">

> > > > Mumbai, India> > > > >> > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > >> > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > >> > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > >> > > > > LSRD method > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > lord> > > > > jupiter.> > > > > Ketu in mercury

sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > with> > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > >> > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > more> > > > > correct.> > > > >> > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > >> > > > > Thankyou> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > axeplex@> > >

> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > >> > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > Mars> > > > Dasa> > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > better> > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > is> > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > to> > > > such> > > > > heights.> > > > > >> > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > conjunting> > > Ma> > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > >> > > > > >

regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > the> > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > or> > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > could> > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > best wishes,> > > >

> > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > Anyway,> > > > > April> > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > but> > > > > three> > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > >

> > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > menon> > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > with> > > > > Don> > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > Durban.> > > > He> > > > > was> > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other

players> > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > 4.25> > > pm> > > > > which> > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > >

ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

regds> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/>

February 27, 2010

Manojji,

My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned

why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it.

And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I

don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala

sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but

not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole

factor that can cause reversal.

I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a

politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry

for this.

regds

Dev

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99

wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the

discussions are done just for the " heck " of it.

>

> Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried

out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of

the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd

no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.

>

> Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh.

Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high

that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÂ Minister, and even Prime Minister

of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya

Lagna.

>

> Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga.

A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational "

people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti),

the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no,

we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused

to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile

phone. So much for Kaal Sarp.

>

> Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari

dictum needs to be remembered here.

>

> Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they

hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than

getting deeper into astrology.

>

> regards,

>

> Mouji Ram

>

> ________________________________

> axeplex <axeplex

>

> Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM

> Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th

>

> Â

> I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like

you as I prefer writing in brief.

>

> regds

> Dev

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃ‚Â a person reached a stage

people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃ‚Â they Ã‚Â see in the hor.

justifying the natives present position

> >

> > however if it is seen in different angleÃ‚Â do not give a rosy picture

> >

> > ::all planets between raghuÃ‚Â and Ã‚Â kethu

> >

> > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord

> >

> > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th

> >

> > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for

lagnaÃ‚Â and dispositor of kethu

> >

> > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃ‚Â

> >

> > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house

> >

> > moon with raghuÃ‚Â and Ã‚Â venus with sun notÃ‚Â goodÃ‚Â in

Ã‚Â traditional view

> >

> > 1 5 9Ã‚Â housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong

> >

> > canÃ‚Â

> > keep on describing negative areas is of no use

> >

> > as many astrologers justify above forÃ‚Â things for a positive achievements

in life

> >

> > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃ‚Â Ã‚Â may fail to

justify

> >

> > same time many persons areÃ‚Â bornÃ‚Â Ã‚Â then we go to vargas which is not

much popular or discussed in lengthÃ‚Â

> >

> > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls

observe

> >

> > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are

discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃ‚Â

> >

> > with regards

> > sairaman

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> >

> > Respected Bhaskerji,

> >

> > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and

this is the way they must be used always.//

> >

> > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this

forum and once personally to me.

> > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .

> > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me

> > Thankyou.

> >

> > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these

details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//

> >

> > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is

'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > >

> > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other

> > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some

> > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not

> > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..

> > >

> > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's

> > > and this is the way they must be used always.

> > >

> > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not

> > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my

> > > records.

> > >

> > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.

> > >

> > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea

> > > of the right Lagna.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > >

> > > > Data 1

> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > > >

> > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1

> > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2

> > > >

> > > > Data 2

> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > > >

> > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3

> > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4

> > > >

> > > > This is as per Jhora.

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me

> > > the

> > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling

> > > > > planet

> > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know

> > > > that

> > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Data 1

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > April 21, 1973

> > > > > > Time: 18:01:00

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > > sign lord: mercury

> > > > > > star lord : Mars

> > > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Data 2

> > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > >

> > > > > > April 24, 1973

> > > > > > Time: 16:28:00

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > > sign lord: Mercury

> > > > > > star lord : Sun

> > > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :

> > > > > >

> > > > > > February 25, 2010

> > > > > > Time: 20:41:20

> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 "

> > > > > > Jaipur, India

> > > > > >

> > > > > > LSRD method

> > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day

> > > > lord

> > > > > > jupiter.

> > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.

> > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].

> > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct

> > > with

> > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.

> > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be

> > > more

> > > > > > correct.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thankyou

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > > axeplex@

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of

> > > Mars

> > > > > Dasa

> > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds

> > > > better

> > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it

> > > is

> > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him

> > > to

> > > > > such

> > > > > > heights.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is

> > > conjunting

> > > > Ma

> > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct

> > > or

> > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all

> > > > > could

> > > > > > > > elarn from the same..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Girishji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.

> > > Anyway,

> > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference

> > > > but

> > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish

> > > menon

> > > > > > horamag@

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji

> > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article

> > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared

> > > > with

> > > > > > Don

> > > > > > > > Bradman

> > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at

> > > > Durban.

> > > > > He

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players

> > > > > > > > participating

> > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is

> > > 4.25

> > > > pm

> > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > is very close to yours.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Girish

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@

> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Ãƒâ€š

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> >

>

February 27, 2010

Dear Dev ji,

Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.

Mouji Ram

axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > Ã‚ > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃƒâ€šÃ‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃƒâ€šÃ‚ they Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > >

however if it is seen in different angleÃƒâ€šÃ‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > ::all planets between raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚ and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kethu> > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃƒâ€šÃ‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > moon with raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚ and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ venus with sun notÃƒâ€šÃ‚ goodÃƒâ€šÃ‚ in Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ traditional view> > > > 1 5 9Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > canÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > >

> > as many astrologers justify above forÃƒâ€šÃ‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃƒâ€šÃ‚ Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ may fail to justify> > > > same time many persons areÃƒâ€šÃ‚ bornÃƒâ€šÃ‚ Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > with regards > > sairaman

axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th

Manojji,My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >

wrote:>> Dear Friends,> > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃ‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna.> > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote

can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > regards,> > Mouji Ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > Ã‚ > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃƒâ€šÃ‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃƒâ€šÃ‚ they Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃƒâ€šÃ‚ do not give a rosy

picture> > > > ::all planets between raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚ and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kethu> > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃƒâ€šÃ‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > moon with raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚ and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ venus with sun notÃƒâ€šÃ‚ goodÃƒâ€šÃ‚ in Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ traditional view> > > > 1 5 9Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > canÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃƒâ€šÃ‚ things

for a positive achievements in life > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃƒâ€šÃ‚ Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ may fail to justify> > > > same time many persons areÃƒâ€šÃ‚ bornÃƒâ€šÃ‚ Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > with regards > > sairaman> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, 26 February, 2010

8:44:35 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > Thankyou.> > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > >

Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from

my> > > records.> > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > >> > > > Data 1> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > >> > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > >> > > > Data 2> > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > >> > > >

Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > >> > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > >> > > > Thankyou> > > > Regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > >> > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > the> > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >>

> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > >> > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > planet> > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > that> > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > >> > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > >> > > > > > Data 1>

> > > > >> > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > >> > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > >> > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > >> > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > >> > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > >

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > >> > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > >> > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > >> > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > >> > > > > > LSRD method

> > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day> > > > lord> > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > with> > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > >> > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > more> > > > > > correct.> > > > > >> > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > >> > > >

> > Thankyou> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > axeplex@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > Mars> > > > > Dasa> > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > better> > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > is> > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take

him> > > to> > > > > such> > > > > > heights.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > conjunting> > > > Ma> > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts

of> > > > the> > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > or> > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > could> > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > Anyway,> > > > > > April> > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > but> > > > > > three> > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > menon> > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > with> > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > Durban.> > > > > He> > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > 4.25> > > > pm> > > > > > which> > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > >

> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regds>

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> >>

February 27, 2010

There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after

I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You

can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role

as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case.

This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything

in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my

fitst post.

regds

Dev

, Manoj Kumar <mouji99

wrote:

>

> Dear Dev ji,

>

> Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way,

are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's

Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting your reply to his mail where he talks

of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.

>

> Mouji Ram

>

> axeplex <axeplex@ >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis

like you as I prefer writing in brief.

> >

> > regds

> > Dev

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â a person reached a

stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â they Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â see in

the hor. justifying the natives present position

> > >

> > > however if it is seen in different angleÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â do not give a rosy

picture

> > >

> > > ::all planets between raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â kethu

> > >

> > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord

> > >

> > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th

> > >

> > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for

lagnaÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â and dispositor of kethu

> > >

> > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house

> > >

> > > moon with raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â venus with sun notÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

goodÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â in Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â traditional view

> > >

> > > 1 5 9Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong

> > >

> > > canÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use

> > >

> > > as many astrologers justify above forÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â things for a positive

achievements in life

> > >

> > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

may fail to justify

> > >

> > > same time many persons areÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â bornÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â then we go to

vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls

observe

> > >

> > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are

discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > with regards

> > > sairaman

>

> ________________________________

> axeplex <axeplex

>

> Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM

> Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th

>

> Â

> Manojji,

>

> My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already

mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the

heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say the same thing about the other.

Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this.

To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does

matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can

never be sole factor that can cause reversal.

>

> I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a

politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry

for this.

>

> regds

> Dev

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ >

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Friends,

> >

> > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the

discussions are done just for the " heck " of it.

> >

> > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever

tried out these things practically. If one goes by the Badhaka theory, then

1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya

and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you

can.

> >

> > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh.

Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high

that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃ‚Â Minister, and even Prime

Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again

Kanya Lagna.

> >

> > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp

yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of " rational "

people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti),

the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no,

we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused

to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile

phone. So much for Kaal Sarp.

> >

> > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical

parashari dictum needs to be remembered here.

> >

> > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything

they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather

than getting deeper into astrology.

> >

> > regards,

> >

> > Mouji Ram

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > axeplex <axeplex@ >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis

like you as I prefer writing in brief.

> >

> > regds

> > Dev

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@

....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â a person reached a

stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â they Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â see in

the hor. justifying the natives present position

> > >

> > > however if it is seen in different angleÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â do not give a rosy

picture

> > >

> > > ::all planets between raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â kethu

> > >

> > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord

> > >

> > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th

> > >

> > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for

lagnaÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â and dispositor of kethu

> > >

> > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house

> > >

> > > moon with raghuÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â and Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â venus with sun notÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

goodÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â in Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â traditional view

> > >

> > > 1 5 9Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong

> > >

> > > canÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use

> > >

> > > as many astrologers justify above forÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â things for a positive

achievements in life

> > >

> > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

may fail to justify

> > >

> > > same time many persons areÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â bornÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â then we go to

vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls

observe

> > >

> > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are

discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > with regards

> > > sairaman

> > >

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details

> > >

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > >

> > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's

and this is the way they must be used always.//

> > >

> > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this

forum and once personally to me.

> > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently.

..

> > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me

> > > Thankyou.

> > >

> > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these

details will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//

> > >

> > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is

'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,

> > > >

> > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other

> > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some

> > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not

> > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..

> > > >

> > > > But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's

> > > > and this is the way they must be used always.

> > > >

> > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not

> > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my

> > > > records.

> > > >

> > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.

> > > >

> > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea

> > > > of the right Lagna.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Data 1

> > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88 " Chit 1

> > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70 " Jye 2

> > > > >

> > > > > Data 2

> > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada

> > > > >

> > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60 " UPha 3

> > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04 " PSha 4

> > > > >

> > > > > This is as per Jhora.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thankyou

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me

> > > > the

> > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

> > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling

> > > > > > planet

> > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know

> > > > > that

> > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Data 1

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > April 21, 1973

> > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00

> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > > > sign lord: mercury

> > > > > > > star lord : Mars

> > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Data 2

> > > > > > > Natal Chart

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > April 24, 1973

> > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00

> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00 " , 18 N 58' 00 "

> > > > > > > Mumbai, India

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is

> > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury

> > > > > > > star lord : Sun

> > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu

> > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > February 25, 2010

> > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20

> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00 " , 26 N 55' 00 "

> > > > > > > Jaipur, India

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > LSRD method

> > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury, star lord Jupiter, day

> > > > > lord

> > > > > > > jupiter.

> > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.

> > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].

> > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct

> > > > with

> > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.

> > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be

> > > > more

> > > > > > > correct.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thankyou

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > > > axeplex@

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of

> > > > Mars

> > > > > > Dasa

> > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds

> > > > > better

> > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it

> > > > is

> > > > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him

> > > > to

> > > > > > such

> > > > > > > heights.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is

> > > > conjunting

> > > > > Ma

> > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct

> > > > or

> > > > > > > wrong,

> > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all

> > > > > > could

> > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex "

> > > > > > > <axeplex@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Girishji,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.

> > > > Anyway,

> > > > > > > April

> > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference

> > > > > but

> > > > > > > three

> > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish

> > > > menon

> > > > > > > horamag@

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji

> > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article

> > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared

> > > > > with

> > > > > > > Don

> > > > > > > > > Bradman

> > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at

> > > > > Durban.

> > > > > > He

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players

> > > > > > > > > participating

> > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is

> > > > 4.25

> > > > > pm

> > > > > > > which

> > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Girish

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@

> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth

details

> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > regds

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Dev

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

http://in.. com/

> > >

> >

>

February 27, 2010

Dear Dev ji,

You want me to laugh or what. Badhaka/Kendra Adhipatya yoga/Karko Bhav Nasahaya are the tools of loser astrologers. You mean to say, 1/3rd of generation today would be devoid of marital happiness, 1/3rd of the generation would be devoid of Bhagya and 1/3rd of the generation would have no income.

Theoretically possible but practically impossible. So think before you utter something. Anyway, where is the mail you are referring you. You talk of divisional charts and are scary of D/10 for 21st whereas I gave you a contrary picture.

Now I can safely assume that you have nothing to show astrologically except to doubt everyone else.

still regards,

mouji ram

axeplex <axeplex Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 12:49:28 AM Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th

There is no backtracking. Read my other mail addressed to Sairamanji just after I sent an agreement mail to him. That mail is sent before you wrote to me. You can see my mail is posed well before your mail. Also I have given there Mer role as Baadhaka in 2005 in 24th case. This is problem with long mails sometimes and human can skip reading everything in first look. Moment I had a second look, I sent another post to rectify my fitst post.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> Dear Dev ji,> > Do not worry. Will provide you data of ordinary people also. But, by the way, are you not backtracking from your statement which you made on Mr. Sairaman's Mail. By the way of reminder, just posting

your reply to his mail where he talks of Badhaka/Kaal Sarp Yoga etc., where you agree fully.> > Mouji Ram> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > I agree with you fully, though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ they ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ see in the hor.

justifying the natives present position> > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ and ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kethu> > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th > > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > moon with raghuÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ and ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ venus with sun notÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ goodÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

in ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ traditional view> > > > > > 1 5 9ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > canÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > > > > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > same time many persons areÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ bornÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > >

> > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > with regards > > > sairaman> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 9:13:27 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > Ã‚ > Manojji,> > My differences exist on Sachin Tendulkar's details and I have already mentioned why. Nobody is here to pass the time that one would discuss for the heck of it. And if it is so, everybody can say

the same thing about the other. Personally I don't emphasize much on Kala Sarpa Yoga, so agree with you on this. To me, Kala sarpa is unnessarily exaggerated. On Baadhaka, my stand is it does matter but not simply based on natal chart alone and concluding also it can never be sole factor that can cause reversal.> > I am not even looking into data provided by you since it belongs to a politician, if it would have been some other person I would have loved to. Sorry for this. > > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > > > In a discussion there would always be pros and cons. But sometimes the discussions are done just for the "heck" of it.> > > > Ninth lord in the eighth house, Badhakas and all and all. Have you ever tried out these things practically. If one goes

by the Badhaka theory, then 1/3rd of the population of the world would not have marriage, 1/3rd no Bhagya and 1/3rd no income. How is it logically possible? So adopt rationality, if you can.> > > > Try out this horoscope. 28 June 1921, 13/02 hrs, Warangal, Andhra Pradesh. Here also you would find 9th lord in the 8th house and the person rose so high that he first becomes Chief Minister, CabinetÃƒâ€šÃ‚ Minister, and even Prime Minister of India in unexpected circumstances. Ninth lord in the eighth? Again Kanya Lagna.> > > > Give a single classical reference of Kaal Sarpa Yoga. Do not quote Sarp yoga. A very interesting anecdote can be posted here for advantage of "rational" people. Once during a visit to Kalahasti, (place famous for Kaal Sarpa Shanti), the Chief Priest was asked, is there any puja for Kaal Sarp Shanti, he said, no, we only do narayan bali, which in no way is connected to Kaal Sarpa. He refused

to say it on record, but one of the group members recorded it on his mobile phone. So much for Kaal Sarp. > > > > Kanya lagna, lord debilitated would aspect its own house. Classical parashari dictum needs to be remembered here. > > > > Over the years, I have found that when astrologers cant explain anything they hide behind Badhaka, Kendradhipati yoga, karko bhav nashaya etc., rather than getting deeper into astrology.> > > > regards,> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 9:25:44 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details sai 26th> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > I agree with you fully,

though I can not write everything in my analysis like you as I prefer writing in brief.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, sairam nat <sairaman53@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear it is frustrating in astrology that onceÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ a person reached a stage people discuss highlighting positive thingsÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ they ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ see in the hor. justifying the natives present position> > > > > > however if it is seen in different angleÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ do not give a rosy picture> > > > > > ::all planets between raghuÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ and ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ kethu> > > > > > 9th lord in 8th house with 12th lord> > > > > > 7th bhathaka lord exalted in 5th with 8th lord in 5th

> > > > > > lagnathipathi though neechabanga in bhathaka house in 7th not sound for lagnaÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ and dispositor of kethu> > > > > > saturn in an angle 9th houseÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > raghu dasa in star of venus in 8th house > > > > > > moon with raghuÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ and ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ venus with sun notÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ goodÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ in ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ traditional view> > > > > > 1 5 9ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ housesnot sound and 6 8 and 12th house straong> > > > > > canÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > keep on describing negative areas is of no use > > > > > > as many astrologers justify above forÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ things for a positive achievements in life > > >

> > > if the same shown without giving identity of person manyÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ may fail to justify> > > > > > same time many persons areÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ bornÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ then we go to vargas which is not much popular or discussed in lengthÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > can be well justified taking kalapurusha lagna of mesha as Ist bhava pls observe> > > > > > fully grown to some ripe stage and well known about the person things are discussed to the advantage known to the nativeÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > with regards > > > sairaman> > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > vijay.goel

<goyalvj@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Fri, 26 February, 2010 8:44:35 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > > //But I am extremely happy that You are making the right use of the RP's and this is the way they must be used always.//> > > > > > I have learnt this method from the basic inputs you have provided to this forum and once personally to me. > > > If someones understand Basics than he can move forward more conveniently. .> > > Your happiness is the A+ grading for me > > > Thankyou.> > > > > > //24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay. Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details

will get a better idea of the right Lagna.//> > > > > > In sayan ayanamsha chart automatically gets very strong. but this chart is 'kala aksar bhais barabar' for me to read.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > > > > > > > It would be difficult for you to match these details since the other> > > > inputs with which you are matching are also not quite right... and some> > > > other reasons which I would not like to go at this point of time (Do not> > > > wish to let open a bag of problems for me)..> > > > > > > > But I am extremely

happy that You are making the right use of the RP's> > > > and this is the way they must be used always.> > > > > > > > Now I have wasted last two hours on this (Which is why I normally do not> > > > look into charts of VIP's) . I have got these Birth details from my> > > > records.> > > > > > > > 24th April 1973 16.21 Bombay.> > > > > > > > Those who make a Sayana Chart with these details will get a better idea> > > > of the right Lagna.> > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected

Bhaskerji,> > > > >> > > > > Data 1> > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > >> > > > > Lagna 25 Kanya 32' 04.88" Chit 1> > > > > Moon - 21 Vrisch 42' 44.70" Jye 2> > > > >> > > > > Data 2> > > > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada> > > > >> > > > > Lagna 6 Kanya 17' 40.60" UPha 3> > > > > Moon - 26 Dhanu 24' 50.04" PSha 4> > > > >> > > > > This is as per Jhora.> > > > >> > > > > Thankyou> > > > > Regards,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > >

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Goel ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > This is a good way to apply the KP Method. Can You kindly give me> > > > the> > > > > > Asc degrees for both the charts ?> > > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Respected Bhaskerji,> > > > > >

>> > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I thought to test this both birth data on the basis of KP ruling> > > > > > planet> > > > > > > method which you have demonstrated many time , but i don't know> > > > > that> > > > > > > it can be used in the following way or now, just an experiment. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > [i took KP ayanamsha in following analysis]> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Data 1> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > >> > > > > > > April 21, 1973> > > > > > > Time: 18:01:00> > > > > > > Time

Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > Mumbai, India> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > sign lord: mercury> > > > > > > star lord : Mars> > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > sub sub lord : Venus.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Data 2> > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > >> > > > > > > April 24, 1973> > > > > > > Time: 16:28:00> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > Place: 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"> > > > > > > Mumbai, India>

> > > > > >> > > > > > > Here Ascendent Details is> > > > > > > sign lord: Mercury> > > > > > > star lord : Sun> > > > > > > sub lord : Rahu> > > > > > > sub sub lord :Mercury.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Now Ruling Planets are for the following time :> > > > > > >> > > > > > > February 25, 2010> > > > > > > Time: 20:41:20> > > > > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > > > > Place: 75 E 49' 00", 26 N 55' 00"> > > > > > > Jaipur, India> > > > > > >> > > > > > > LSRD method > > > > > > > sign lord Mercury, moon sign lord Mercury,

star lord Jupiter, day> > > > > lord> > > > > > > jupiter.> > > > > > > Ketu in mercury sign, rahu in jupiter sign.> > > > > > > so final RP's are Mer, ketu, Jupiter, Rahu [ & SUN].> > > > > > > I have additionally taken SUN also as it is very close conjunct> > > > with> > > > > > > jupiter within 3 deg.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > If we match with data 1, mars and venus does not fit in any way.> > > > > > > but with data 2 all RP's are coming so i think Data 2 could be> > > > more> > > > > > > correct.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > This exercise is just an experiment.> > > > > > >> > > > >

> > Thankyou> > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > axeplex@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of> > > > Mars> > > > > > Dasa> > > > > > > in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > > > > better> > > > > > > both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > > > is> >

> > > > > Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him> > > > to> > > > > > such> > > > > > > heights.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is> > > > conjunting> > > > > Ma> > > > > > > in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >

> > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > > > > the> > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct> > > > or> > > > > > > wrong,> > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > > > > > could> > > > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > > > > > > <axeplex@>> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post.> > > > Anyway,> > > > > > > April> > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > > > > but> > > > > > > three> > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > >

> Dev> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > > > menon> > > > > > > horamag@> > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > > > > with> > > > > > > Don> > > > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > > > > Durban.> > > > > >

He> > > > > > > was> > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is> > > > 4.25> > > > > pm> > > > > > > which> > > > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@

wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡>

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> > >> >>

February 27, 2010

Sairamji,Lenghthy mail takes time....Just to add, few things you have written by mistakelike kala Sarpa Yoga etc. Few of the answers to your questions can be found inD-charts. Few questions remain unanswered and this is the reaon everybody triesto learn more and more to know those gaps.(And you can see how even highlyexperienced guys in the group would be willing to learn new things).

Mouji : You have only negated it partially. Why do you not show it your way in the D=Charts. Now do not say that you will teach only worthy students because one such person who used to say such things cannot show his face now in Jyotish Group. You say many known names were exposed here, I would like to know, who were those big names. Baadhaka Mercury - In 2005, he was running Me AD as per 24th April data, may bewhen people were writing him off , could be related to that.... Also Me was notsupportive in D-10.Mouji : Dont talk in probabilities. Talk in affirmatives. Show it if you can.