Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Sir, who is lying or who is not, either Sachin can tell or his family members or God. And I am not saying I can not be wrong. And who knows may be even both the datas are wrong. I have not met personally Karve ji and KNR ji, so i shall keep silence on that. But blind belief is definitely not in my dictionary. May be because of some planet combinations in my chart, I am not born like that. Currently, I am speaking on what is visible to me. regds Dev , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Dev ji, > as i said earlier it is not our comfirt even our acumen as astrologer > does not make it authentic/true.Frankly i was also using 24th till > now.But a divine personality like yogi karve and Respected KNR ji say > something else i just go for it.Yogis and spiritual astrologers like > KNRji do not lie.But astrologers do lie(i am sorry) i know atleast for > the sake of consultant/customer or whatever.Sorry again if i am harsh > ,it is not personally intended for anybody.Just a statement......in a > lighter vein pl.... > Love and regards, > gopi. > , " axeplex " <axeplex@> > wrote: > > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. > All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a > source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not > predict retirement ? //Dev > > > > , Manoj Kumar mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house > with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in > the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of > Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific > meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > > Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is > Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th > conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar > <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if > such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would > do. > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good > in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing > persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > >  > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars > Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds > better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it > is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to > such heights. > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting > Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of > the > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or > wrong, > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all > could > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " > <axeplex@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, > April > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference > but three > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish > menon horamag@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared > with Don > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at > Durban. He was > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > participating > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 > pm which > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in. > > best wishes, > > Mouji Ram > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM > Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > regards, > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > >  > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights. > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong, > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don > > > > Bradman > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > participating > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish. regards, Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM Re: Sachin's birth details Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in.> > best wishes,> > Mouji Ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > regards,> > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >  > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > >  > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights.> > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the> > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong,> > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could> > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Girishji,> > > > >> > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April> > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three> > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don> > > > Bradman> > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was> > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > participating> > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > >> > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which> > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Girish> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regds> > > > > >> > > > > > Dev> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start. My understanding of " sets in " is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish. > > regards, > > Mouji Ram > > >  > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM > Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > >  > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights. > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong, > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > participating > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Let me enlighten you then, "set in" means "starts". If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it. Argument you say "where is the argument" and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play. I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM Re: Sachin's birth details Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start.My understanding of "sets in" is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish.> > regards,> > Mouji Ram> > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me.> > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >  > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > >  > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter.> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights.> > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the> > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong,> > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could> > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April> > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three> > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > >> > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don> > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was> > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > participating> > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which> > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 But I do admire your stamina. Manoj Kumar <mouji99 Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 6:14:40 PMRe: Re: Sachin's birth details Let me enlighten you then, "set in" means "starts". If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it. Argument you say "where is the argument" and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play. I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex >ancient_indian_ astrologyFri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start.My understanding of "sets in" is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish.> > regards,> > Mouji Ram> > >  > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me.> > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in.> > > > best wishes,> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >  > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > >  > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter.> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights.> > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the> > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong,> > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could> > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April> > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three> > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > >> > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@> > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don> > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was> > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > participating> > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which> > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Fine, If you do not want to participate, let us leave it and discuss another topic. I am not indulging in to " Set in " since now I undestand how you understand " Set in " and that makes me understand what you wanted to say. When sun sets in west, it is end of day. so let us end the day on this topic. regds DEv , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Let me enlighten you then, " set in " means " starts " . If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it. > > Argument you say " where is the argument " and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > Mouji Ram > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM > Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start. > > My understanding of " sets in " is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish. > > > > regards, > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > >  > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights. > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong, > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Thanks, my Mars is in Aries. May be because of that. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > But I do admire your stamina. > > > > > ________________________________ > Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > > Fri, February 26, 2010 6:14:40 PM > Re: Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > Let me enlighten you then, " set in " means " starts " . If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it. > > Argument you say " where is the argument " and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > Mouji Ram > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start. > > My understanding of " sets in " is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish. > > > > regards, > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > >  > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights. > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong, > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Sun sets in the West, doesnt mean when the dasha sets in. Refurbish your knowledge and then come and discuss. I am still open to it. But you still have some unanswered questions at your end (24th : Venus Vs Mars) Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 6:22:32 PM Re: Sachin's birth details Fine, If you do not want to participate, let us leave it and discuss another topic. I am not indulging in to "Set in" since now I undestand how you understand "Set in" and that makes me understand what you wanted to say. When sun sets in west, it is end of day. so let us end the day on this topic.regdsDEvancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> Let me enlighten you then, "set in" means "starts". If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it.> > Argument you say "where is the argument" and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > Mouji Ram> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start.> > My understanding of "sets in" is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016.> > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish.> > > > regards,> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >  > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in.> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > >  > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights.> > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the> > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong,> > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could> > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April> > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three> > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don> > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was> > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which> > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Even I did not meet them. But I would certainly take the words of my elders on this. Besides, let me enlighten you folks, it was not only about Sachin Tendulkar that Yogi Karve ji had to say a few words, it was also for Lata Mangeshkar. If anyone of you has the courage and guts ask Yogi Karve ji about it or his wife, to whom he had told that words. regards, Mouji Ram gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 6:25:45 PM Re: Sachin's birth details I agree with you sir,I also did not meet these people but i know what they are.One more thing Sachin also cant say /prove/disprove just as we can not about our births.Parents, grand parents should confirm.That' s what it is said that That Sachin's father personally met yogi karve...Take it or leave it,but take it easy since as your goodself said that planets do influence and note present transit of 2 malefics sat and mars!!!....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex wrote:>> Sir, who is lying or who is not, either Sachin can tell or his family members or God. And I am not saying I can not be wrong. And who knows may be even both the datas are wrong. > I have not met personally Karve ji and KNR ji, so i shall keep silence on that. But blind belief is definitely not in my dictionary. May be because of some planet combinations in my chart, I am not born like that. Currently, I am speaking on what is visible to me.> > regds> Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Dev ji,> > as i said earlier it is not our comfirt even our acumen as astrologer> > does not make it authentic/true. Frankly i was also using 24th till> > now.But a divine personality like yogi karve and Respected KNR ji say> > something else i just go for it.Yogis and spiritual astrologers like> > KNRji do not lie.But astrologers do lie(i am sorry) i know atleast for> > the sake of consultant/customer or whatever.Sorry again if i am harsh> > ,it is not personally intended for anybody.Just a statement... ...in a> > lighter vein pl....> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > wrote:> > >> > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10.> > All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a> > source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not> > predict retirement ? //Dev> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar mouji99@> > wrote:> > > >> > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house> > with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in> > the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of> > Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific> > meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > >> > > > mouji ram> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >> > > > Â> > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is> > Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th> > conjuncting Jupiter.> > > >> > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar> > <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if> > such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would> > do.> > > > >> > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good> > in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing> > persons to ponder upon.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > >> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > >> > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars> > Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds> > better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it> > is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to> > such heights.> > > > >> > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting> > Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > >> > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of> > the> > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or> > wrong,> > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all> > could> > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > >> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex"> > <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway,> > April> > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference> > but three> > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish> > menon horamag@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared> > with Don> > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at> > Durban. He was> > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25> > pm which> > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Â> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Ha ha hahahhahaha.....you said it. Finally we do know. Mouji Ram axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 6:25:10 PM Re: Sachin's birth details Thanks, my Mars is in Aries. May be because of that.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> But I do admire your stamina.> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Manoj Kumar <mouji99 >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 6:14:40 PM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > Let me enlighten you then, "set in" means "starts". If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it.> > Argument you say "where is the argument" and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > Mouji Ram> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start.> > My understanding of "sets in" is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016.> > regds> Dev> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish.> > > > regards,> > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > >  > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >  > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in.> > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > >  > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter.> > > > > > > > regds> > > > Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > > > Subject: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights.> > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the> > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong,> > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could> > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April> > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three> > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don> > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was> > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which> > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I have already answered that. And retirement part, we can start if you would also participate. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > Sun sets in the West, doesnt mean when the dasha sets in. Refurbish your knowledge and then come and discuss. I am still open to it. > > But you still have some unanswered questions at your end (24th : Venus Vs Mars) > > Mouji Ram > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Fri, February 26, 2010 6:22:32 PM > Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > Fine, If you do not want to participate, let us leave it and discuss another topic. > > I am not indulging in to " Set in " since now I undestand how you understand " Set in " and that makes me understand what you wanted to say. When sun sets in west, it is end of day. so let us end the day on this topic. > > regds > DEv > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Let me enlighten you then, " set in " means " starts " . If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it. > > > > Argument you say " where is the argument " and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > >  > > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start. > > > > My understanding of " sets in " is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016. > > > > regds > > Dev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong, > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 You have not. Come out in open if you wish. regards, Mouji axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 5:59:56 AM Re: Sachin's birth details I have already answered that. And retirement part, we can start if you would also participate.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> Sun sets in the West, doesnt mean when the dasha sets in. Refurbish your knowledge and then come and discuss. I am still open to it. > > But you still have some unanswered questions at your end (24th : Venus Vs Mars)> > Mouji Ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com> Fri, February 26, 2010 6:22:32 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > Fine, If you do not want to participate, let us leave it and discuss another topic. > > I am not indulging in to "Set in" since now I undestand how you understand "Set in" and that makes me understand what you wanted to say. When sun sets in west, it is end of day. so let us end the day on this topic.> > regds> DEv> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Let me enlighten you then, "set in" means "starts". If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it.> > > > Argument you say "where is the argument" and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >  > > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start.> > > > My understanding of "sets in" is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > >  > > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me.> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in.> > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the> > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong,> > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could> > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April> > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three> > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don> > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was> > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which> > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Mr. Dev, Dont hide behind facdes. You are already exposed. If you wish, I can expose you further. That will be as per your desire, and believe me, I dont want to do it because a fellow astrology student deserves that respect atleast. regards, Mouji axeplex <axeplex Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 5:59:56 AM Re: Sachin's birth details I have already answered that. And retirement part, we can start if you would also participate.regdsDevancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99 > wrote:>> Sun sets in the West, doesnt mean when the dasha sets in. Refurbish your knowledge and then come and discuss. I am still open to it. > > But you still have some unanswered questions at your end (24th : Venus Vs Mars)> > Mouji Ram> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> axeplex <axeplex >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com> Fri, February 26, 2010 6:22:32 PM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> >  > Fine, If you do not want to participate, let us leave it and discuss another topic. > > I am not indulging in to "Set in" since now I undestand how you understand "Set in" and that makes me understand what you wanted to say. When sun sets in west, it is end of day. so let us end the day on this topic.> > regds> DEv> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> >> > Let me enlighten you then, "set in" means "starts". If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it.> > > > Argument you say "where is the argument" and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > >  > > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start.> > > > My understanding of "sets in" is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016.> > > > regds> > Dev> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > >> > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > >  > > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me.> > > > > > regds> > > Dev> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > >> > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in.> > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > mouji ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Bhaskarji,> > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights.> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th).> > > > > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the> > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong,> > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could> > > > > > > elarn from the same..> > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "axeplex" <axeplex@>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Girishji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April> > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three> > > > > > > days difference in two birth details.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji> > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article> > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don> > > > > > > Bradman> > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was> > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players> > > > > > > participating> > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which> > > > > > > is very close to yours.> > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'…¡> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear all,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regds> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dev> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 What do u want to know? Many big names have been exposed here in last one month. Mars is indeed a better candidate than Venus in D-10 for him, I have written it plenty of time. Moreover, check Lagna lord in both data's D-10. It would reveal further which date is better. Natal chart is almost same except Moon placement. Dasa differences are obviously existing. Ma is with Ju lording 4th and 7th. Ve is with Su that happens to be 12th lord I am neither worried about exposure nor even worried about how one rates me and why shall I. I am just understanding how others work and where they stand. Two good things have happened after I started participating actively in this group for last few months though I am member for many years. What are they,I would reveal it in near future. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > You have not. Come out in open if you wish. > > regards, > > Mouji > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:59:56 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > I have already answered that. And retirement part, we can start if you would also participate. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Sun sets in the West, doesnt mean when the dasha sets in. Refurbish your knowledge and then come and discuss. I am still open to it. > > > > But you still have some unanswered questions at your end (24th : Venus Vs Mars) > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Fri, February 26, 2010 6:22:32 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > >  > > Fine, If you do not want to participate, let us leave it and discuss another topic. > > > > I am not indulging in to " Set in " since now I undestand how you understand " Set in " and that makes me understand what you wanted to say. When sun sets in west, it is end of day. so let us end the day on this topic. > > > > regds > > DEv > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Let me enlighten you then, " set in " means " starts " . If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it. > > > > > > Argument you say " where is the argument " and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > > > > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start. > > > > > > My understanding of " sets in " is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong, > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I am glad to be an astrological student who is on the logical path. By the way, so far I have not found a single guy in this group who is not student some way or the other. regds Dev , Manoj Kumar <mouji99 wrote: > > You have not. Come out in open if you wish. > > regards, > > Mouji > > > > > ________________________________ > axeplex <axeplex > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:59:56 AM > Re: Sachin's birth details > >  > I have already answered that. And retirement part, we can start if you would also participate. > > regds > Dev > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > Sun sets in the West, doesnt mean when the dasha sets in. Refurbish your knowledge and then come and discuss. I am still open to it. > > > > But you still have some unanswered questions at your end (24th : Venus Vs Mars) > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Fri, February 26, 2010 6:22:32 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > >  > > Fine, If you do not want to participate, let us leave it and discuss another topic. > > > > I am not indulging in to " Set in " since now I undestand how you understand " Set in " and that makes me understand what you wanted to say. When sun sets in west, it is end of day. so let us end the day on this topic. > > > > regds > > DEv > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > Let me enlighten you then, " set in " means " starts " . If it is visible for you now, you must see when it was pronounced in 2005. When all the newspapers, TV, Radio, and ordinary Indians were writing him off. I think it was then, the artilcle was written. Now do not throw some obsolete dictionary version of the terminology of that words or phrase, as you may like to call it. > > > > > > Argument you say " where is the argument " and then you say, 2016. Great. A Sportsman would be 43 at that time, do you expect him to play.  > > > > > > I would advise you Mr. Dev (reason being because I also normally do not accept anything at the face value but do agree when my elders say something) to first sit down honestly and read the article which was referred to by Ms. Neelam and then if you have any doubts, we can sit down and discuss it. Elsewhere, his horoscope is being discussed by using various lagnas also. Such is astrological poverty of this country which revels itself in glory of being the one who gave the world the science of astrology. > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:47:37 PM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > >  > > > Where is the argument, Manoj ji. It is seeking the clarity. And if you say, he would not retire before Jan 2011, that is very well visible and anyone can say, let us try to predict the period when he would retire. Also 12th lord is Sun in 21st April data and that Dasa is yet to start. > > > > > > My understanding of " sets in " is the ending of Dasa that was end of 2016. > > > > > > regds > > > Dev > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think, Devi ji, now the argument is taking a turn towards argument just for the sake of it. Please read carefully, I have said, he would not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in and i.e., Jan, 2011. Have I written, when it ends. Please ask for any other clarification you wish. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 5:30:58 PM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > Sure Manoj ji, I would give it a try based on 24th April data. As per you, he can not retire till 2016. Sun Dasa (12 th lord), so I would take this. If I am assuming wrong, please correct me. > > > > > > > > regds > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Please Dev ji. You should be comfortable that is important. When is he going to retire? You can tell from your 24th Chart before we request Neelam ji to find it out from the author of that article. > > > > > > > > > > My opinion, if you so desire, would be that this man will not retire before the dasha of 12th lord sets in. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 2:52:38 PM > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > I am still more comfortable with 24th April especially due to D-10. All articles would claim they are authentic, 24th is also from such a source. His present run can be justified with 24th as well. Why not predict retirement ? //Dev > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > It is for you to decide, whether 9th lord placed in the 8th house with exalted Sun, aspecting 2nd house is better or 3rd and 8th lord, in the fifth house, though exalted. Then also please check the nakshatra of Venus and also placement of Venus in the 8th house. It has a specific meaning. I think if you do that, you may have an answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > mouji ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Fri, February 26, 2010 12:05:09 PM > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚Ã\ ‚ > > > > > > But where is 9th lord placed, in 8th. In case of 24th, 3rd lord is Mars, exalted that can give courage and initiative, placed in 5th conjuncting Jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Kumar <mouji99@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Really. Tenth lord of dashamansha, placed in the seventh house, if such a planet is not capable of taking one high, then which planet would do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnas do not change, which planet would be considered good in its dasha, 9th lord or 3rd and 8th lord. It is for astrology knowing persons to ponder upon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mouji Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > axeplex <axeplex@ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thu, February 25, 2010 8:31:34 PM > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â€šÂ¬ÃÆ'ââ\ ‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¡ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚\ ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To me, 24th April sounds better, reason being involvement of Mars Dasa in 24th April case in his initial period of growth that sounds better both in Natal as well as D-10. In case of 21st April case, if it is Venus Dasa that does not sound so well in D-10 that can take him to such heights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, in 24th April case, Ma is followed by Ra that is conjunting Ma in D-10 in 11th. (lording 5th and 10th). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not instead of discussing , you please make both charts of the > > > > > > > > disputed dates of Sachin, and show which one would be correct or wrong, > > > > > > > > through some astrological analysis done by you, so that we all could > > > > > > > > elarn from the same.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " axeplex " <axeplex@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Even I could locate an article after I read your post. Anyway, April > > > > > > > > is not too far and here we are not talking of time difference but three > > > > > > > > days difference in two birth details. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon horamag@ > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dev ji > > > > > > > > > > April 24th is confirmed based on the news article > > > > > > > > > > BATTING MAESTRO, Sachin Tendulkar, who is often compared with Don > > > > > > > > Bradman > > > > > > > > > > celebrated his 36th birthday on Friday (April 24), at Durban. He was > > > > > > > > > > surrounded by his India teammates as well other players > > > > > > > > participating > > > > > > > > > > in the Indian Premier League in South Africa. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The time could be a controversy but what i have got is 4.25 pm which > > > > > > > > is very close to yours. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/25/10, axeplex axeplex@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > axeplex axeplex@ > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Sachin's birth details > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, February 25, 2010, 2:48 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'†'ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'‚ÂÂÂ\ ¢ÃƒÆ'Æ'¢ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'‚¬ÃÆ'Æ'â\ €¦ÃÆ'‚¡ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have just received one more details of Sachin's birth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 24 April, 1973 at 4:28 pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Members can please verify from their sources. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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