Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

February 6, 2010

Dear Kulbhir Bhai,

//House no.10 â€ " Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral

character.//

This statement is correct to large extent but in the example provided by Renuji,

this alone Jupiter in 10H seems to fail to give the above result due to other

planetary combination.

October 6, 1951

Time: 0:16:00

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Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

Colombo, Sri Lanka

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//House no.7 â€ " Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak ?//

I am not able to understand this.

Does it mean libidinous. ?

Thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb

wrote:

>

> Lalkitab while describing psychology says;-

> Part 1= house no. Part 2. = planet responsible/associated/governing. Part 3

=tendency/capacity.

> House no.1 - Venus â€ " Tendency to love â€ " Â = Love for opposite gender, Such

tendency raises itself and progresses in age span from 16 to 36 years.

> House no.1 Â - Saturn â€ " Tendency to love =Â Flirting tendency, only through

vocal interactions â€ " Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â benefic Saturn- Sympathy; malefic

Saturn â€ " Selfishness.

> House no. 2. â€ " Jupiter â€ " Wish for marriage/copultation one after

anotherÂ â€ " Longing for opposite sex in age span 70-72 years.

> House no. 3 â€ " Moon = Innocent Love/friendship + mature Love + longing for

love. All three.

> House no.3 -Â Mars â€ " ive = destroyer of all three listed above.

> House no.9 â€ " Jupiter = Jovial Flirt.

> House no.9 â€ " Mercury =Â Immature Flirt to such extent that it hurts /

pinches.

> House no.10 â€ " Jupiter = Tendency to cultivate and maintain good moral

character.

> House no.7 â€ " Venus = Capacity to Catch the latent streak

> Â Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:03:34 AM

> Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

> Â

>

> A good point, made...

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal@ .>

wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Kulbir ji

> >

> > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of " detachment " as

> > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..

> >

> > Best wishes ...

> >

> > Jai Sita Ram

> >

> > Ram

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab

Kb

> > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > faithfullness.

> >

> > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may

> > be

> > sanyasis too..//

> > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.

> > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > faithfullness.

> >

> > Sir,

> > Why do you take everything personal?

> > My answer was case specific.

> > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas

> > badhayga.

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

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>

February 6, 2010

//Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.

Jatt bhasha is too blunt//

Ha ha .., I know you are also Jatt .. lol.

grt!

But explain the difference between Ke+Sa & Ke+Ve , may be in a blunt way, no

problem haha..

Vijay

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb

wrote:

>

> Dear Goel ji,

> What doesÂ lalkitab says about the difference in association of {ketuÂ with

venus} and {ketu with Saturn}.

> Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.

> Jatt bhasha is too blunt.

> Â Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

> ________________________________

> vijay.goel <goyalvj

>

> Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:39:42 AM

> Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

>

> Â

> Dear Kulbhir bhai,

>

> //By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.//

>

> Logic is very simple, but let me clear my understanding on venus + ketu

conjunction.

>

> can you quote something from LK on Venus + Ketu?.

>

> Thankyou,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Goel Ji,

> > Of course, Umesh is great.

> > This group has good moderators and good / learned members.

> > I will bring in that level gradually.

> > By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.

> > Ã‚Â Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:26:43 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> > Dear Kulbhir Bhai,

> >

> > yeah we had conversation that ketu represent Pyaas at Ludhiana, did you

remember Bhandari was looking someone's palm, i still laugh and enjoy the moment

on which we discussed this ketu and pyaas.

> >

> > Grt!

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@

.....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > My answer was case specific.

> > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas

badhayga.

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 3:56:10 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> > >

> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > >

> > > Bhai Kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > Please do not talk about my Chart and placement of Ketu in it...

> > >

> > > I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may be

> > > sanyasis too..

> > >

> > > I will close the matter for my case here and itself. I love all the

> > > beautiful women of the world.

> > >

> > > regards,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

> > > <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > > To start with;

> > > > 1. Ketu represents Thirst. KetuÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ inÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ 7.

> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡ Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 12:14:54 AM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Love, Flirtations and

> > > faithfullness.

> > > >

> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or womens

> > > > Kundli, these factors,

> > > >

> > > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt, Casanova type..

> > > >

> > > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is actually

> > > > supposed to Love.

> > > >

> > > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.

> > > >

> > > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc.. we know.

> > > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

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February 6, 2010

Dear Gopi ji,

Namaste.

Thank you for your appreciation. God Bless..

warmest regards

Sheevani

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> Good post Sheevani ji,

> -gopi

> , " Sheevani "

> <sheevani147@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Chiranjiv ji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > I only started the ball rolling..

> >

> > There are always many other factors to consider,, the 7H rashi-

> fixed,moveable or dual, tattwa of rashi-jal,agni,vayu or bumi etc,

> planets who is 7L and his other house lordship. aspects on 7H and 7L.

> etc

> >

> > This combination will show desire.. for for it to manifest in life u

> have to consider other factors too including nakshatra and prevailing

> dasa-bukti periods.

> >

> > I purposely gave example of kanya lagna with 7L jupiter placed in own

> house.. there can be other relationships but only one at a time.. ie,

> after termination of first relationship.

> >

> > where love relationships are concerned the 5H and 5L comes into play,,

> but these may not necessary mean a physical relationship.

> >

> > Also look at moon,, for moon gives emotional attachment..

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > , chiranjiv mehta

> vchiranjiv@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Madam,

> > > ï¿½

> > > i have 7th in 11th house. no multiples, no lafdas. Other aspects

> also important. Maybe Saturn in 1st house did the trick. There is more

> to it than just this.

> > >

> > > Chiranjiv Mehta

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 6/2/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Sheevani sheevani147@

> > > Re: Love, Flirtations and

> faithfullness.

> > >

> > > Saturday, 6 February, 2010, 5:40 PM

> > >

> > > ï¿½

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > Namaste..

> > >

> > > Sab janke anjane bante ho ji!

> > >

> > > Assuming you are encouraging discussion,,

> > >

> > > 11H is the house of multiplicity and 7H is long relationships.

> > >

> > > So association of the 7L and 11H will give multiple associations.

> > >

> > > 11L placed in 7H, spouse will have multiple relationships, 7L in

> 11H, native may have multiple relationship.

> > >

> > > Placement of malefic or aspect of malefic on 7H, will also create

> unsatisfactory relationships. .

> > >

> > > Kanya lagna, with jupiter placed in 7H Pisces too can give more than

> one relationship, but this usually happens after the first

> marriage/relationsh ip is broken due to death or divorce.

> > >

> > > I leave others to give their imput.

> > >

> > > warmest regards

> > > Sheevani

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or

> womens

> > > > Kundli, these factors,

> > > >

> > > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt, Casanova type.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is

> actually

> > > > supposed to Love.

> > > >

> > > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.

> > > >

> > > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc. we

> know.

> > > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> Homepage. http://in./

> > >

> >

>

February 6, 2010

Respected Bhaskerji,

Atleast you have U-turn the steering from 'Suicide' to 'Love'

Add one more category:

What are the combination in the man chart, where many women run after him and he

keeps on hiding. & vice versa.

for e.g. Sine stars.

Thankyou,

Regards,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote:

>

> Maybe we could categorise this into the following. 1) A Man who is a

> one women man. (Wife or girlfriend whatever) who is faithful to his

> wife. 2) A man who is faithful to his wife physically but does not mind

> light flirtations with many. 3) A man who is not faithful to his wife

> and wants to enjoy physiocal union with those whom he knows and where

> allowed to (Otherwise he is not a devious man) 4) A devious man who

> wants to enjoy physical union with even women whom he does not know and

> is lusty. What would be the planetary combinations responsible for

> each type of above man ? You may add further categories to above. (But

> Please do not add Man to Man) best wishes, Bhaskar.

>

> , chiranjiv mehta

> <vchiranjiv@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Madam,

> > Â

> > i have 7th in 11th house. no multiples, no lafdas. Other aspects also

> important. Maybe Saturn in 1st house did the trick. There is more to it

> than just this.

> >

> > Chiranjiv Mehta

> >

> > --- On Sat, 6/2/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:

> >

> > Sheevani sheevani147@

> > Re: Love, Flirtations and

> faithfullness.

> >

> > Saturday, 6 February, 2010, 5:40 PM

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> >

> > Namaste..

> >

> > Sab janke anjane bante ho ji!

> >

> > Assuming you are encouraging discussion,,

> >

> > 11H is the house of multiplicity and 7H is long relationships.

> >

> > So association of the 7L and 11H will give multiple associations.

> >

> > 11L placed in 7H, spouse will have multiple relationships, 7L in 11H,

> native may have multiple relationship.

> >

> > Placement of malefic or aspect of malefic on 7H, will also create

> unsatisfactory relationships. .

> >

> > Kanya lagna, with jupiter placed in 7H Pisces too can give more than

> one relationship, but this usually happens after the first

> marriage/relationsh ip is broken due to death or divorce.

> >

> > I leave others to give their imput.

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Friends,

> > >

> > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or

> womens

> > > Kundli, these factors,

> > >

> > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.

> > >

> > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt, Casanova type.

> > >

> > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is

> actually

> > > supposed to Love.

> > >

> > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.

> > >

> > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc. we know.

> > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> http://in./

> >

>

February 7, 2010

Dear Vijay Goelji,

Who could be such fortunates...? Except for Cine stars...

regards,

Bhaskar.

, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj wrote:

>

> Respected Bhaskerji,

>

> Atleast you have U-turn the steering from 'Suicide' to 'Love'

>

> Add one more category:

>

> What are the combination in the man chart, where many women run after

him and he keeps on hiding. & vice versa.

> for e.g. Sine stars.

>

> Thankyou,

> Regards,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> , " Bhaskar "

bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:

> >

> > Maybe we could categorise this into the following. 1) A Man who is a

> > one women man. (Wife or girlfriend whatever) who is faithful to his

> > wife. 2) A man who is faithful to his wife physically but does not

mind

> > light flirtations with many. 3) A man who is not faithful to his

wife

> > and wants to enjoy physiocal union with those whom he knows and

where

> > allowed to (Otherwise he is not a devious man) 4) A devious man who

> > wants to enjoy physical union with even women whom he does not know

and

> > is lusty. What would be the planetary combinations responsible for

> > each type of above man ? You may add further categories to above.

(But

> > Please do not add Man to Man) best wishes, Bhaskar.

> >

> > , chiranjiv mehta

> > <vchiranjiv@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Madam,

> > > Â

> > > i have 7th in 11th house. no multiples, no lafdas. Other aspects

also

> > important. Maybe Saturn in 1st house did the trick. There is more to

it

> > than just this.

> > >

> > > Chiranjiv Mehta

> > >

> > > --- On Sat, 6/2/10, Sheevani sheevani147@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Sheevani sheevani147@

> > > Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > faithfullness.

> > >

> > > Saturday, 6 February, 2010, 5:40 PM

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,

> > >

> > > Namaste..

> > >

> > > Sab janke anjane bante ho ji!

> > >

> > > Assuming you are encouraging discussion,,

> > >

> > > 11H is the house of multiplicity and 7H is long relationships.

> > >

> > > So association of the 7L and 11H will give multiple associations.

> > >

> > > 11L placed in 7H, spouse will have multiple relationships, 7L in

11H,

> > native may have multiple relationship.

> > >

> > > Placement of malefic or aspect of malefic on 7H, will also create

> > unsatisfactory relationships. .

> > >

> > > Kanya lagna, with jupiter placed in 7H Pisces too can give more

than

> > one relationship, but this usually happens after the first

> > marriage/relationsh ip is broken due to death or divorce.

> > >

> > > I leave others to give their imput.

> > >

> > > warmest regards

> > > Sheevani

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar "

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Friends,

> > > >

> > > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or

> > womens

> > > > Kundli, these factors,

> > > >

> > > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.

> > > >

> > > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt, Casanova type.

> > > >

> > > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is

> > actually

> > > > supposed to Love.

> > > >

> > > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.

> > > >

> > > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc. we

know.

> > > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > >

> > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

Homepage.

> > http://in./

> > >

> >

>

February 7, 2010

Dear Vijay ji,//What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?//Really interesting!!It depends on other factors as well.For example i have ven conj(yuti) ketu in 11th(kama trikona).I am a bachelor and yogi(i practice yoga but dont preach)to the core.Ofcourse this yuti is aspd by Sat in my case.I think this yuti is not interested in yuvati!!..I also know a jivanmukta and also yogi who had a family and divorced.In his chart this yuti is in 12th in tauras.He also had sun,jup yuti in lagna.Love and regards,gopi. , "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > Thankyou,> Best wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > > > > > , "Ram Jaswal" rkjaswal@ wrote:> >> > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > Best wishes ...> > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > Ram > > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > be> > sanyasis too..//> > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > _____ > > > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > faithfullness.> > > > > > Sir,> > Why do you take everything personal?> > My answer was case specific.> > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > badhayga.> > > > Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > 07:35:00> >>

February 7, 2010

Dear Goel Ji,

Saturn + Ketu accepts the governor of Mo(on)rality, Ethics, Prevalent Social norms.

Venus + Ketu Declutches itself from this control.

"Matlab yeh ki Shanichar go badnaam hai; magar Kaamdev ka keeda nahin hai." RegardsKulbir Bains

vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Sat, 6 February, 2010 11:04:56 AM Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

//Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.Jatt bhasha is too blunt//Ha ha .., I know you are also Jatt .. lol.grt! But explain the difference between Ke+Sa & Ke+Ve , may be in a blunt way, no problem haha... Vijayancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Goel ji,> What doesÃ‚ lalkitab says about the difference in association of {ketuÃ‚ with venus} and {ketu with Saturn}.> Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.> Jatt bhasha is too blunt.> Ã‚ Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> vijay.goel <goyalvj >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:39:42 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Ã‚ > Dear Kulbhir bhai,> > //By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.//> > Logic is very simple, but let me clear my understanding on venus + ketu conjunction.> > can you quote something from LK on Venus + Ketu?.> > Thankyou,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Goel Ji,> > Of course, Umesh is great..> > This group has good moderators and good / learned

members.> > I will bring in that level gradually.> > By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:26:43 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > Dear Kulbhir Bhai,> > > > yeah we had conversation that ketu represent Pyaas at Ludhiana, did you remember Bhandari was looking someone's palm, i still laugh and enjoy the moment on which we discussed this ketu and pyaas.> > > > Grt!> > > > Thankyou,> > Vijay Goel> >

Jaipur> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:> > >> > > Sir,> > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > My answer was case specific.> > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas badhayga.> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ Regards> > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 3:56:10 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > >

> ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > > > > Bhai Kulbir ji,> > > > > > Please do not talk about my Chart and placement of Ketu in it...> > > > > > I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may be> > > sanyasis too..> > > > > > I will close the matter for my case here and itself. I love all the> > > beautiful women of the world.> > > > > > regards,> > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb> > > <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sir,> > > > To start with;> > > > 1. Ketu represents Thirst. KetuÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ inÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ 7.> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡

Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 12:14:54 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Love, Flirtations and> > > faithfullness.> > > >> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or womens> > > > Kundli, these factors,> > > >> > > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.> > > >> > > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt,

Casanova type..> > > >> > > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is actually> > > > supposed to Love.> > > >> > > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.> > > >> > > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc.. we know.> > > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. . YOURS! See your Homepage.> > > http://in.. com/> > > >> > > > > >

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February 7, 2010

Dear Vijay ji,///What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart. Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?//This is about a female born on 12th Feb 1981 and a male born on 13th Feb 1981. Girl: Boy:Virgo Lagna, Pisces navamsha. Virgo Lagna, Aries navamsha. Taurus Rashi -Rohini star Taurus Rashi - Mrig starCurrent V. dasha - Ra/Ve -Ju/Me All the other planets are placed in the same houses in both.Ve + Ke in 5H [Capricorn] aspected by Retro Ju.Ve + Ke in Gemini Navamsha.Retro Ju + Retro Sa in lagna.The girl got married in January 2010. She is pretty, tall and slim, and well educated.She is very kind and generous. The boy is not the marrying type and has no interest whatsoever, no university education but employed well, chubby and short.He is all out to help anyone at anytime and has a very large circle of friends.What I want to point out is, whether Ve + Ke got anything to do with marriage/no marriage in these two cases. Dasha plays a major role, no doubt. For the girl Venus in RKA gave marriage in Ra/Ve period. blessings,Renu , "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear Vijay ji,> //What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> >> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or> normal marriage life?//> Really interesting!!It depends on other factors as well.For example i> have ven conj(yuti) ketu in 11th(kama trikona).I am a bachelor and> yogi(i practice yoga but dont preach)to the core.Ofcourse this yuti is> aspd by Sat in my case.I think this yuti is not interested in> yuvati!!..I also know a jivanmukta and also yogi who had a family and> divorced.In his chart this yuti is in 12th in tauras.He also had sun,jup> yuti in lagna.> Love and regards,> gopi.> , "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear Sita Ram ji,> >> > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is> opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> >> > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> >> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or> normal marriage life?> >> > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> >> > Thankyou,> > Best wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Ram Jaswal"> rkjaswal@ wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > >> > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of> "detachment" as> > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with> Rahu ..> > >> > > Best wishes ...> > >> > > Jai Sita Ram> > >> > > Ram> > >> > > _____> > >> > > > > > On Behalf Of> Lalkitab Kb> > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > faithfullness.> > >> > >> > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of> them may> > > be> > > sanyasis too..//> > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them> most.> > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > >> > >> > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@> > > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > faithfullness.> > >> > >> > > Sir,> > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > My answer was case specific.> > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki> pyaas> > > badhayga.> > >> > > Regards> > > Kulbir Bains> > >> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release Date:> 02/06/10> > > 07:35:00> > >> >>

February 7, 2010

Dear Kulbir ji,please give translation for people who does not understand hindi.We are on the net not in our local area!!!....Love and regards,gopi. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:>> Dear Goel Ji,> Saturn + Ketu accepts the governor of Mo(on)rality, Ethics, Prevalent Social norms.> Venus + Ketu Declutches itself from this control.. > "Matlab yeh ki Shanichar go badnaam hai; magar Kaamdev ka keeda nahin hai."> Â Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> vijay.goel goyalvj > Sat, 6 February, 2010 11:04:56 AM> Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Â > > > //Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.> Jatt bhasha is too blunt//> > Ha ha .., I know you are also Jatt .. lol.> > grt! > > But explain the difference between Ke+Sa & Ke+Ve , may be in a blunt way, no problem haha... > > Vijay> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Goel ji,> > What doesÃ‚Â lalkitab says about the difference in association of {ketuÃ‚Â with venus} and {ketu with Saturn}.> > Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.> > Jatt bhasha is too blunt.> > Ã‚Â Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel goyalvj@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:39:42 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > Ã‚Â > > Dear Kulbhir bhai,> > > > //By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.//> > > > Logic is very simple, but let me clear my understanding on venus + ketu conjunction.> > > > can you quote something from LK on Venus + Ketu?.> > > > Thankyou,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Goel Ji,> > > Of course, Umesh is great.> > > This group has good moderators and good / learned members.> > > I will bring in that level gradually.> > > By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards> > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:26:43 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Dear Kulbhir Bhai,> > > > > > yeah we had conversation that ketu represent Pyaas at Ludhiana, did you remember Bhandari was looking someone's palm, i still laugh and enjoy the moment on which we discussed this ketu and pyaas.> > > > > > Grt!> > > > > > Thankyou,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:> > > >> > > > Sir,> > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas badhayga.> > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 3:56:10 AM> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > > > > > Bhai Kulbir ji,> > > > > > > > Please do not talk about my Chart and placement of Ketu in it...> > > > > > > > I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may be> > > > sanyasis too..> > > > > > > > I will close the matter for my case here and itself. I love all the> > > > beautiful women of the world.> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb> > > > <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Sir,> > > > > To start with;> > > > > 1. Ketu represents Thirst. KetuÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ inÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ 7.> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ Regards> > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 12:14:54 AM> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > > >> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > >> > > > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or womens> > > > > Kundli, these factors,> > > > >> > > > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.> > > > >> > > > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt, Casanova type..> > > > >> > > > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is actually> > > > > supposed to Love.> > > > >> > > > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.> > > > >> > > > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc.. we know.> > > > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. . 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February 7, 2010

A very good suggestion, Gopi ji. Thanks so much:)

blessings,

Renu

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

> please give translation for people who does not understand hindi.We are

> on the net not in our local area!!!....

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , Lalkitab Kb

> <lalkitabkb@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Goel Ji,

> > Saturn + Ketu accepts the governor of Mo(on)rality, Ethics, Prevalent

> Social norms.

> > Venus + Ketu Declutches itself from this control..

> > " Matlab yeh ki Shanichar go badnaam hai; magar Kaamdev ka keeda nahin

> hai. "

> > Â Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> > ________________________________

> > vijay.goel goyalvj@

> >

> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 11:04:56 AM

> > Re: Love, Flirtations and

> faithfullness.

> >

> > Â

> >

> > //Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.

> > Jatt bhasha is too blunt//

> >

> > Ha ha .., I know you are also Jatt .. lol.

> >

> > grt!

> >

> > But explain the difference between Ke+Sa & Ke+Ve , may be in a blunt

> way, no problem haha...

> >

> > Vijay

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

> <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Goel ji,

> > > What doesÃ‚Â lalkitab says about the difference in association

> of {ketuÃ‚Â with venus} and {ketu with Saturn}.

> > > Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.

> > > Jatt bhasha is too blunt.

> > > Ã‚Â Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > vijay.goel goyalvj@ >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:39:42 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> faithfullness.

> > >

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > Dear Kulbhir bhai,

> > >

> > > //By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.//

> > >

> > > Logic is very simple, but let me clear my understanding on venus +

> ketu conjunction.

> > >

> > > can you quote something from LK on Venus + Ketu?.

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

> <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Goel Ji,

> > > > Of course, Umesh is great.

> > > > This group has good moderators and good / learned members.

> > > > I will bring in that level gradually.

> > > > By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:26:43 AM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> faithfullness.

> > > >

> > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > Dear Kulbhir Bhai,

> > > >

> > > > yeah we had conversation that ketu represent Pyaas at Ludhiana,

> did you remember Bhandari was looking someone's palm, i still laugh and

> enjoy the moment on which we discussed this ketu and pyaas.

> > > >

> > > > Grt!

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

> <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki

> shayion ki pyaas badhayga.

> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 3:56:10 AM

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhai Kulbir ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please do not talk about my Chart and placement of Ketu in it...

> > > > >

> > > > > I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of

> them may be

> > > > > sanyasis too..

> > > > >

> > > > > I will close the matter for my case here and itself. I love all

> the

> > > > > beautiful women of the world.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

> > > > > <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > To start with;

> > > > > > 1. Ketu represents Thirst.

> KetuÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡

> inÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ 7.

> > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ Regards

> > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 12:14:54 AM

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Love, Flirtations and

> > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ÃƒÆ'Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or

> womens

> > > > > > Kundli, these factors,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt, Casanova type..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is

> actually

> > > > > > supposed to Love.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc..

> we know.

> > > > > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. . YOURS! See your

> Homepage.

> > > > > http://in.. com/

> > > > > >

> > > > >

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> NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/

> > > > >

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>

February 7, 2010

Dear Renu ji,p.o.b is colombo?!!i expect.....Regards,gopi. , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> Dear Vijay ji,> > ///What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or> normal marriage life?//> > This is about a female born on 12th Feb 1981 and a male born on 13th Feb> 1981.> > Girl: Boy:> Virgo Lagna, Pisces navamsha. Virgo Lagna, Aries navamsha.> Taurus Rashi -Rohini star Taurus Rashi - Mrig star> Current V. dasha - Ra/Ve > -Ju/Me> > All the other planets are placed in the same houses in both.> > Ve + Ke in 5H [Capricorn] aspected by Retro Ju.> > Ve + Ke in Gemini Navamsha.> > Retro Ju + Retro Sa in lagna.> > The girl got married in January 2010. She is pretty, tall and slim, and> well educated.> > She is very kind and generous.> > The boy is not the marrying type and has no interest whatsoever, no> university education but employed well, chubby and short.> > He is all out to help anyone at anytime and has a very large circle of> friends.> > What I want to point out is, whether Ve + Ke got anything to do with> marriage/no marriage in these two cases. Dasha plays a major role, no> doubt.> > For the girl Venus in RKA gave marriage in Ra/Ve period.> > blessings,> > Renu> > > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay ji,> > //What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > >> > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or> > normal marriage life?//> > Really interesting!!It depends on other factors as well.For example i> > have ven conj(yuti) ketu in 11th(kama trikona).I am a bachelor and> > yogi(i practice yoga but dont preach)to the core.Ofcourse this yuti is> > aspd by Sat in my case.I think this yuti is not interested in> > yuvati!!..I also know a jivanmukta and also yogi who had a family and> > divorced.In his chart this yuti is in 12th in tauras.He also had> sun,jup> > yuti in lagna.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "vijay.goel"> > goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > >> > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is> > opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > >> > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > >> > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or> > normal marriage life?> > >> > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Best wishes,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Ram Jaswal"> > rkjaswal@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > >> > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of> > "detachment" as> > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with> > Rahu ..> > > >> > > > Best wishes ...> > > >> > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > >> > > > Ram> > > >> > > > _____> > > >> > > > > > > > On Behalf Of> > Lalkitab Kb> > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > > > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > >> > > >> > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many> of> > them may> > > > be> > > > sanyasis too..//> > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them> > most.> > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains> > > >> > > >> > > > _____> > > >> > > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@> > > > > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > >> > > >> > > > Sir,> > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion> ki> > pyaas> > > > badhayga.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains> > > >> > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release Date:> > 02/06/10> > > > 07:35:00> > > >> > >> >>

February 7, 2010

I second it.Atleast astro post should be in english.Eventhough I didnot participate in the discussion,I read all the posts.Please write/translate in english.thanksSenthil ---

February 7, 2010

Dear Friends,

If all inputs have been given, then can someone please guide me, as to

which category I fall in ? Now I invite Shri Kulbir ji too, to present

his comments on my Chart, so that he can expand on his theory on

" Pyaasa " and " Aag " etc.whatever...

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:

>

> I broadly agree withÂ SheevaniÂ Ji that 7L/11H combos can

indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L

in 11HÂ means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner.

11H is house of friends. I have seen nativesÂ with 7L in 11H

(afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:

>

> 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple

relationships for self/spouse.

> Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? ForÂ Scorpio,

Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier.Â

> Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.

> Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most

of the time (there are exceptions).

> Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of

above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if

Venus is also afflicted.

>

> The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart

clearly shows the signature of affairs in a chart:

>

> Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis

> Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H

> Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony

> 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn

>

> Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:

> Ju afflicted and retrograde

> 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve

> 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.

>

> Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve)

in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.

>

> Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from

its Rashi position.

> Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates

individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8

positions from his Rashi position.

>

> This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but

may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped

him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.

>

> To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve

conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether

it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different

ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of

the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.

>

> Regards,

> Â -Manoj

> Â

>

> ________________________________

> Sheevani sheevani147

>

> Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM

> Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

> Â

> Dear Renu ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native

spends time and money within friends or network circle.

>

> Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..

>

> Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)

>

> Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " renunw " renunw@

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay ji,

> >

> > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with

Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows

that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about

it.

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > October 6, 1951

> > Time: 0:16:00

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

> > Colombo, Sri Lanka

> >

> > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct

in 3H.

> >

> > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.

> >

> > Hope this chart would be helpful.

> >

> > blessings,

> >

> > Renu

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> > >

> > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is

opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> > >

> > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > >

> > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood

or normal marriage life?

> > >

> > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > > >

> > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of

" detachment " as

> > > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected

with Rahu ..

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes ...

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf

Of Lalkitab Kb

> > > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations

and

> > > > faithfullness.

> > > >

> > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many

of them may

> > > > be

> > > > sanyasis too..//

> > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them

most.

> > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations

and

> > > > faithfullness.

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki

shayion ki pyaas

> > > > badhayga.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

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02/06/10

> > > > 07:35:00

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 7, 2010

I agree with your general comment “Rahu

amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the positive

attributes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation,

which are both different ways of perverting Venusians attributes, depends on

the overall tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life

time “ though not about Ketu promoting

multiple affairs and diluting “positive” attributes of Venus –

I would suggest that is more Rahu’s domain. Yes perhaps after sometime

the realization of Affairs Not being dharmic hit’s home and causes the

Native to re-think their thoughts/actions.

February 7, 2010

Yes Sir,

Saturn + Ketu accepts the governor of Mo(on)rality, Ethics, Prevalent Social

norms.

Venus + Ketu Declutches itself from this control.

Thereby meaning that although Saturn hasÂ acquired a bad name for itself But it

retains the capacity to be a good judge in matters related to sexual impulsion.

" Matlab yeh ki Shanichar go badnaam hai; magar Kaamdev ka keeda nahin hai. "

Â

Â Regards

Kulbir Bains

________________________________

gopalakrishna <gopi_b927

Sat, 6 February, 2010 11:47:12 PM

Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

Â

Dear Kulbir ji,

please give translation for people who does not understand hindi.We are on the

net not in our local area!!!....

Love and regards,

gopi.

ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@.

...> wrote:

>

> Dear Goel Ji,

> Saturn + Ketu accepts the governor of Mo(on)rality, Ethics, Prevalent Social

norms.

> Venus + Ketu Declutches itself from this control..

> " Matlab yeh ki Shanichar go badnaam hai; magar Kaamdev ka keeda nahin hai. "

> Ã‚Â Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> vijay.goel goyalvj

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Sat, 6 February, 2010 11:04:56 AM

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.

>

> Ã‚Â

>

> //Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.

> Jatt bhasha is too blunt//

>

> Ha ha .., I know you are also Jatt .. lol.

>

> grt!

>

> But explain the difference between Ke+Sa & Ke+Ve , may be in a blunt way, no

problem haha...

>

> Vijay

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@

....> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Goel ji,

> > What doesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â lalkitab says about the difference in association of

{ketuÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â with venus} and {ketu with Saturn}.

> > Pt. Ji was a jatt pundit.

> > Jatt bhasha is too blunt.

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards

> > Kulbir Bains

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > vijay.goel goyalvj@ >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, 6 February, 2010 10:39:42 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> >

> > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > Dear Kulbhir bhai,

> >

> > //By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.//

> >

> > Logic is very simple, but let me clear my understanding on venus + ketu

conjunction.

> >

> > can you quote something from LK on Venus + Ketu?.

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .. com, Lalkitab Kb

<lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Goel Ji,

> > > Of course, Umesh is great.

> > > This group has good moderators and good / learned members.

> > > I will bring in that level gradually.

> > > By the way, ketu represents pyaas. What is the logic behind it?.

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > vijay.goel <goyalvj@ >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 9:26:43 AM

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> > >

> > > ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > Dear Kulbhir Bhai,

> > >

> > > yeah we had conversation that ketu represent Pyaas at Ludhiana, did you

remember Bhandari was looking someone's palm, i still laugh and enjoy the moment

on which we discussed this ketu and pyaas.

> > >

> > > Grt!

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

<lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki

pyaas badhayga.

> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 3:56:10 AM

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> > > >

> > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â

> > > >

> > > > Bhai Kulbir ji,

> > > >

> > > > Please do not talk about my Chart and placement of Ketu in it...

> > > >

> > > > I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may be

> > > > sanyasis too..

> > > >

> > > > I will close the matter for my case here and itself. I love all the

> > > > beautiful women of the world.

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb

> > > > <lalkitabkb@ ....> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > > To start with;

> > > > > 1. Ketu represents Thirst.

KetuÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡

inÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ 7.

> > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ....

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 12:14:54 AM

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Love, Flirtations and

> > > > faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > > ÃƒÆ’Ã†'Ãƒâ€ 'ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Friends,

> > > > >

> > > > > Could the learned please enumerate , how to check in a mans or womens

> > > > > Kundli, these factors,

> > > > >

> > > > > 1) Whether he or she Loves one or many.

> > > > >

> > > > > 2) Whether he or she is a born Flirt, Casanova type..

> > > > >

> > > > > 3) Whether he or she will be faithful to the one he or she is actually

> > > > > supposed to Love.

> > > > >

> > > > > I do not know the answer for above, so please do not ask me.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mars and Venus combined etc. gives rise to sensousness etc.. we know.

> > > > > Please produce something which can bifercate these issues.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

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February 7, 2010

Bhai Kulbir ji,

Whatever the Lalkitab may say about this particular Dharmi tewa...

I know that I am not a very righteous person as made out or appearing to

be, I must say this humbly. You know I never Lie. I may not be a bad or

evil person, but not even good either...

regards,

Bhaskar.

, Lalkitab Kb

<lalkitabkb wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji,

>

> We are discussing general tendencies.

> Your horoscope comes under exceptional category.

> Such horoscopes (Saturn + Jupiter) - Page no. 399. 1941 edition have

aspects and effects at variance from general horoscopes. Special

(khas-khas) houses have special aspects of planets. The essence of which

will provide the results.

> By the way it was your horoscope only from which Mr. Prabhakar taught

me how to analyse a (Dharmi Tewa) Righteous horoscope.

>

> Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

> ________________________________

> Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish

>

> Sun, 7 February, 2010 3:16:40 AM

> Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

> Dear Friends,

>

> If all inputs have been given, then can someone please guide me, as to

> which category I fall in ? Now I invite Shri Kulbir ji too, to present

> his comments on my Chart, so that he can expand on his theory on

> " Pyaasa " and " Aag " etc.whatever.. ..

>

> best wishes,

>

> Bhaskar.

>

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February 7, 2010

Dear Gopi ji

The girl's p.o.b is Kurunegala, Sri Lanka and boy Colombo.

blessings,

Renu

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> Dear Renu ji,

> p.o.b is colombo?!!i expect.....

> Regards,

> gopi.

> , " renunw " <renunw@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay ji,

> >

> > ///What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

> > normal marriage life?//

> >

> > This is about a female born on 12th Feb 1981 and a male born on 13th

> Feb

> > 1981.

> >

> > Girl: Boy:

> > Virgo Lagna, Pisces navamsha. Virgo Lagna, Aries navamsha.

> > Taurus Rashi -Rohini star Taurus Rashi - Mrig star

> > Current V. dasha - Ra/Ve

> > -Ju/Me

> >

> > All the other planets are placed in the same houses in both.

> >

> > Ve + Ke in 5H [Capricorn] aspected by Retro Ju.

> >

> > Ve + Ke in Gemini Navamsha.

> >

> > Retro Ju + Retro Sa in lagna.

> >

> > The girl got married in January 2010. She is pretty, tall and slim,

> and

> > well educated.

> >

> > She is very kind and generous.

> >

> > The boy is not the marrying type and has no interest whatsoever, no

> > university education but employed well, chubby and short.

> >

> > He is all out to help anyone at anytime and has a very large circle of

> > friends.

> >

> > What I want to point out is, whether Ve + Ke got anything to do with

> > marriage/no marriage in these two cases. Dasha plays a major role, no

> > doubt.

> >

> > For the girl Venus in RKA gave marriage in Ra/Ve period.

> >

> > blessings,

> >

> > Renu

> >

> > , " gopalakrishna "

> > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > //What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood

> or

> > > normal marriage life?//

> > > Really interesting!!It depends on other factors as well.For example

> i

> > > have ven conj(yuti) ketu in 11th(kama trikona).I am a bachelor and

> > > yogi(i practice yoga but dont preach)to the core.Ofcourse this yuti

> is

> > > aspd by Sat in my case.I think this yuti is not interested in

> > > yuvati!!..I also know a jivanmukta and also yogi who had a family

> and

> > > divorced.In his chart this yuti is in 12th in tauras.He also had

> > sun,jup

> > > yuti in lagna.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> > > >

> > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is

> > > opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> > > >

> > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood

> or

> > > normal marriage life?

> > > >

> > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > rkjaswal@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > > > >

> > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of

> > > " detachment " as

> > > > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected

> with

> > > Rahu ..

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > On Behalf Of

> > > Lalkitab Kb

> > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations

> and

> > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many

> > of

> > > them may

> > > > > be

> > > > > sanyasis too..//

> > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them

> > > most.

> > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@

> > > > >

> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations

> and

> > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki

> shayion

> > ki

> > > pyaas

> > > > > badhayga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release Date:

> > > 02/06/10

> > > > > 07:35:00

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 7, 2010

Dear Manojji,Hare Rama Krsna,//To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.//Yeah i agree with it.Nice !.Therefore LK says Ketu is Pyaas (thirst), once quenched, it leads to detachment.Whereas Rahu represent mirage where thirst is never quenched.I hope Bhai Kulbhirji got the logic :)Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear All,> > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:> > I broadly agree withÂ SheevaniÂ Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11HÂ means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen nativesÂ with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:> > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple relationships for self/spouse.> Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? ForÂ Scorpio, Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier.Â > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.> Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the time (there are exceptions).> Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also afflicted. > > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly shows the signature of affairs in a chart:> > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis> Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H> Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony> 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn> > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:> Ju afflicted and retrograde> 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve> 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.> > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.> > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi position.> Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from his Rashi position.> > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.> > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.> > Regards,> Â -Manoj> Â > > > > > ________________________________> Sheevani sheevani147 > Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM> Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Â > Dear Renu ji,> > Namaste,> > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends time and money within friends or network circle.> > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..> > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)> > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!> > warmest regards> Sheevani> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it. > > > > Natal Chart> > > > October 6, 1951> > Time: 0:16:00> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.> > > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.> > > > Hope this chart would be helpful.> > > > blessings,> > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > > > Thankyou,> > > Best wishes,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > > > > > Best wishes ...> > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > > > be> > > > sanyasis too..//> > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > > > badhayga.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > > > 07:35:00> > > >> > >> >>

February 7, 2010

Dear Manoj ji,

//This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may

actually enjoy doing so without much guilt.//

You are absolutely right...

Thanks for detailed explanations:)

Just checked his wife's horoscope, and to my surprise I noticed that she too has

Ve, Ma, Ke combination in her 8H. She is Sagg Lagna. She doesn't have any

illicit relationships, totally dedicated to her children...but I feel she flirts

a little bit thinking that her husband would feel jealous...poor thing!

Her LL Ju is in 7H. This would have prevented her from any wrong doing. Also

Moon is exalted both in Lagna and navamsha , Sun is in Leo sign both in Lagna

and navmasha, and Saturn is exalted both in

Lagna and navamsha........But Venus is debilitated in navamsha and conjunct with

Ketu, aspected by Mars in Pisces.

blessings,

Renu

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:

>

> I broadly agree withÂ SheevaniÂ Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple

relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11HÂ means only native

has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen

nativesÂ with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:

>

> 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple

relationships for self/spouse.

> Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? ForÂ Scorpio, Me is 11L

and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier.Â

> Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.

> Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the

time (there are exceptions).

> Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above

need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also

afflicted.

>

> The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly

shows the signature of affairs in a chart:

>

> Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis

> Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H

> Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony

> 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn

>

> Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:

> Ju afflicted and retrograde

> 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve

> 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.

>

> Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in

Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.

>

> Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi

position.

> Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates

individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from

his Rashi position.

>

> This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may

actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he

ran Ke-Ve in succession.

>

> To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction

causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple

affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian

attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are

possible within one Life time.

>

> Regards,

> Â -Manoj

> Â

>

> ________________________________

> Sheevani <sheevani147

>

> Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM

> Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

> Â

> Dear Renu ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends

time and money within friends or network circle.

>

> Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..

>

> Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)

>

> Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!

>

> warmest regards

> Sheevani

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " renunw " <renunw@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay ji,

> >

> > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A

married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is

aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it.

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > October 6, 1951

> > Time: 0:16:00

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

> > Colombo, Sri Lanka

> >

> > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.

> >

> > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.

> >

> > Hope this chart would be helpful.

> >

> > blessings,

> >

> > Renu

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> > >

> > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is

opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> > >

> > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > >

> > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

normal marriage life?

> > >

> > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?

> > >

> > > Thankyou,

> > > Best wishes,

> > > Vijay Goel

> > > Jaipur.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > > >

> > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of " detachment "

as

> > > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with Rahu

...

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes ...

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of

Lalkitab Kb

> > > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > faithfullness.

> > > >

> > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them

may

> > > > be

> > > > sanyasis too..//

> > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.

> > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > faithfullness.

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki

pyaas

> > > > badhayga.

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > >

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10

> > > > 07:35:00

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 7, 2010

Dear Kulbhir bhai,

//Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.//

This is also a good point.

thankyou,

Best Wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

We can explain the nature of planet in many ways.

, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb

wrote:

>

> Dear Goel Ji,

> You missed the basics.

> Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.

> Â Regards

> Kulbir Bains

>

> ________________________________

> vijay.goel <goyalvj

>

> Sun, 7 February, 2010 7:23:39 AM

> Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

> Â

> Dear Manojji,

>

> Hare Rama Krsna,

>

> //To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve

conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads

to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting

Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both

are possible within one Life time.//

>

> Yeah i agree with it.

> Nice !.

>

> Therefore LK says Ketu is Pyaas (thirst), once quenched, it leads to

detachment.

> Whereas Rahu represent mirage where thirst is never quenched.

> I hope Bhai Kulbhirji got the logic

>

> Thankyou,

> Best Wishes,

> Vijay Goel

> Jaipur.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:

> >

> > I broadly agree withÃ‚Â SheevaniÃ‚Â Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate

multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11HÃ‚Â means

only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I

have seen nativesÃ‚Â with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In

short:

> >

> > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple

relationships for self/spouse.

> > Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? ForÃ‚Â Scorpio, Me is

11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier.Ã‚Â

> > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.

> > Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the

time (there are exceptions).

> > Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above

need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also

afflicted.

> >

> > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly

shows the signature of affairs in a chart:

> >

> > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis

> > Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H

> > Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony

> > 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn

> >

> > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:

> > Ju afflicted and retrograde

> > 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve

> > 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.

> >

> > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in

Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.

> >

> > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its

Rashi position.

> > Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates

individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from

his Rashi position.

> >

> > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may

actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he

ran Ke-Ve in succession.

> >

> > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve

conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads

to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting

Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both

are possible within one Life time.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Ã‚Â -Manoj

> > Ã‚Â

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Sheevani sheevani147@ ...

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> > Dear Renu ji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends

time and money within friends or network circle.

> >

> > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..

> >

> > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)

> >

> > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " renunw " renunw@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > >

> > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus.

A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is

aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it.

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > October 6, 1951

> > > Time: 0:16:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

> > > Colombo, Sri Lanka

> > >

> > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.

> > >

> > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.

> > >

> > > Hope this chart would be helpful.

> > >

> > > blessings,

> > >

> > > Renu

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> > > >

> > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is

opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> > > >

> > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

normal marriage life?

> > > >

> > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > > > >

> > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of " detachment "

as

> > > > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with Rahu

...

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of

Lalkitab Kb

> > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of

them may

> > > > > be

> > > > > sanyasis too..//

> > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.

> > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > > faithfullness..

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki

pyaas

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> > > > >

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February 8, 2010

Sure, Manoj ji.

Natal Chart

August 31, 1953

Time: 14:13:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

Colombo, Sri Lanka

Her chart has Sun and Moon in Panchamamsa. i.e. Sun and Moon are in 5th Navamsa

in own Rasi. This is supposed to be a very good position according CS Patel as

shown in his book Navamsa in Astrology.

She has every material comfort, but not any peace of mind!

blessings,

Renu

, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj wrote:

>

> Renu Ji,

>

> Is it possible to share wife's data as well?Â

> Â

> Regards,

> Â -Manoj

> Â

>

> ________________________________

> renunw <renunw

>

> Sun, February 7, 2010 9:15:26 AM

> Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

>

> Â

> Dear Manoj ji,

>

> //This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may

actually enjoy doing so without much guilt.//

>

> You are absolutely right...

>

> Thanks for detailed explanations: )

>

> Just checked his wife's horoscope, and to my surprise I noticed that she too

has Ve, Ma, Ke combination in her 8H. She is Sagg Lagna. She doesn't have any

illicit relationships, totally dedicated to her children...but I feel she flirts

a little bit thinking that her husband would feel jealous...poor thing!

>

> Her LL Ju is in 7H. This would have prevented her from any wrong doing. Also

Moon is exalted both in Lagna and navamsha , Sun is in Leo sign both in Lagna

and navmasha, and Saturn is exalted both in

> Lagna and navamsha.... ....But Venus is debilitated in navamsha and conjunct

with Ketu, aspected by Mars in Pisces.

>

> blessings,

>

> Renu

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran

<chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:

> >

> > I broadly agree withÃ‚Â SheevaniÃ‚Â Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate

multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11HÃ‚Â means

only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I

have seen nativesÃ‚Â with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In

short:

> >

> > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple

relationships for self/spouse.

> > Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? ForÃ‚Â Scorpio, Me is

11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier.Ã‚Â

> > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.

> > Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the

time (there are exceptions).

> > Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above

need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also

afflicted.

> >

> > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly

shows the signature of affairs in a chart:

> >

> > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis

> > Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H

> > Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony

> > 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn

> >

> > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:

> > Ju afflicted and retrograde

> > 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve

> > 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.

> >

> > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in

Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.

> >

> > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its

Rashi position.

> > Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates

individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from

his Rashi position.

> >

> > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may

actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he

ran Ke-Ve in succession.

> >

> > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve

conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads

to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting

Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both

are possible within one Life time.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Ã‚Â -Manoj

> > Ã‚Â

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > Sheevani <sheevani147@ ...>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and

faithfullness.

> >

> > Ã‚Â

> > Dear Renu ji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends

time and money within friends or network circle.

> >

> > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..

> >

> > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)

> >

> > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!

> >

> > warmest regards

> > Sheevani

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " renunw " <renunw@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > >

> > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus.

A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is

aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it.

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > October 6, 1951

> > > Time: 0:16:00

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 79 E 50' 00 " , 6 N 55' 00 "

> > > Colombo, Sri Lanka

> > >

> > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.

> > >

> > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.

> > >

> > > Hope this chart would be helpful.

> > >

> > > blessings,

> > >

> > > Renu

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel "

<goyalvj@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> > > >

> > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is

opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> > > >

> > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > >

> > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

normal marriage life?

> > > >

> > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?

> > > >

> > > > Thankyou,

> > > > Best wishes,

> > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > Jaipur.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Ram Jaswal "

<rkjaswal@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > > > >

> > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of " detachment "

as

> > > > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with Rahu

...

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes ...

> > > > >

> > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of

Lalkitab Kb

> > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of

them may

> > > > > be

> > > > > sanyasis too..//

> > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.

> > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki

pyaas

> > > > > badhayga.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > >

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February 8, 2010

Dear Kulbhir Bhai and all,Hare Rama Krsna,Actually my understanding on LK is based on different pitch and your's is different.Your learning is based on direct application of LK principles whereas mine learning on LK moves through vedic principles route where many things comes to which LK ignores, mine route is bit busy, whereas you are running in a express highway of LK .----------------------------LK says for 7th house Ketu is pyaas (thirst), hence forth i took Venus + ketu yuti to understandd it, which Manojji finely explained it.The examples given by Gopiji & Renuji on this point was also very convincing.-------------------------Every planet represent thirst (yearning) of different type, for eg mercury has thirst to acquire knowledge, sun to acquire power etc.Prime significator for 'Detachment' is only 'ketu' among all planets as also said by Sita Ramji. Ketu curtails the properties of the house in which it is situated. This 'emptiness' is described as 'thirst' of Ketu in LK. Ketu in 4th house, person always yearns for mother's love, (simple he never gets it).Thirst of Ketu, is based on Jal-tattwa, prime significator of Jal-tattwa is moon and venus.So weak ketu give strong drive for love and sex but strong ketu curtails it completely by putting varaigya, ecliping the moon. Hence in Gopiji's own chart, venus + ketu aspected by saturn, make him the Hatha yogi, to observe perfect control over body through penance.Whereas in other case given by Gopiji, either saturn or ketu was somewhat weak to overcome moon.[Note: strength of planets is looked in LK by observing the practical manifestation or impact of planet in individual's life, through Makaan Kundli , Palm Prints and Events]------------------------Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay GoelJaipur. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:>> Dear Goel ji,> Just as a good batsman has to observe keenly the moment the ball leaves the bowlers hand. Same rule applies to lalkitab. If you miss the starting point, you don't know; What's going to hit you a googly, yorker, swing, spin or even a bodyline?> Plus the pitch is also deadly like that of Feroz Shah Kotla Stadium, Delhi.> Â > Â Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb > Sun, 7 February, 2010 9:14:01 AM> Re: Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Â > Dear Goel Ji,> This is not also aÂ good point. This is the only point.> Â Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> vijay.goel goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sun, 7 February, 2010 9:02:16 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > Â > Dear Kulbhir bhai,> > //Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.//> > This is also a good point.. > > thankyou,> Best Wishes,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > We can explain the nature of planet in many ways.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Goel Ji,> > You missed the basics.> > Which planet causes eclipse to moon? = Ketu.> > Ã‚Â Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > vijay.goel goyalvj@ >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Sun, 7 February, 2010 7:23:39 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > Ã‚Â > > Dear Manojji,> > > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > > > //To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.//> > > > Yeah i agree with it.> > Nice !.> > > > Therefore LK says Ketu is Pyaas (thirst), once quenched, it leads to detachment..> > Whereas Rahu represent mirage where thirst is never quenched.> > I hope Bhai Kulbhirji got the logic > > > > Thankyou,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > Some very perceptive posts on this topic. Let me add my 2 cents:> > > > > > I broadly agree withÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â SheevaniÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Ji that 7L/11H combos can indicate multiple relationships. However I would slightly disagree on 7L in 11HÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â means only native has affair. 7H is also house of partner. 11H is house of friends. I have seen nativesÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â with 7L in 11H (afflicted) whose husbands have affairs. In short:> > > > > > 11H/11L are multipliers. Any association with 7L/7H can mean multiple relationships for self/spouse.> > > Especially potent combination for Scorpio Lagna. Why? ForÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â Scorpio, Me is 11L and 8L. Me in general is himself a Multiplier.Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Me association with Ve or the 7H can cause multiple relationships.> > > Invariably though you need affliction of Venus by Saturn or Rahu most of the time (there are exceptions).> > > Another point is that Kama trikon is 3H/7H/11H. So any combination of above need to be kept in mind. 11L in 3H can also produce affairs if Venus is also afflicted. > > > > > > The Chart below from Renu Ji shows on such combination. This chart clearly shows the signature of affairs in a chart:> > > > > > Affliction to Venus: Ma/Ve conjunction, Ve in Ra/Ke Axis> > > Kama trikone association: 11L in 3H aspecting 7L Ju from 3H> > > Afflicted Venus in Leo can rarely promote Marital harmony> > > 7L afflicted by 8L Saturn> > > > > > Potential saviours in any chart: Ju, 5H/5L, 9H/9L:> > > Ju afflicted and retrograde> > > 5L afflicted by both RKA and 12L Ve> > > 9H afflicted by Vargottam Rahu. Rahu also afflicts 5H.> > > > > > Mo deb in 6H in Jeysta Natksatra. Significant planets (Me, Mo and Ve) in Scorpio is a problem. Here it is also 6H. It is also aspected by Sa.> > > > > > Navamsha: Navamsha LL Ve is in Cancer Navamsha which is 12 away from its Rashi position.> > > Rashi 9L Saturn is in deb in Navamsha with no cancellation, indicates individal bereft of moral compass. Notice also Saturn has moved 8 positions from his Rashi position.> > > > > > This clearly a chart of a person who not only strays from Dharma but may actually enjoy doing so without much guilt. Dasha sequence helped him since he ran Ke-Ve in succession.> > > > > > To Vijay Ji's question, Rahu amplifies and Ketu dilutes. Ketu - Ve conjunction causes dilution of the postive attirbutes of Venus. Whether it leads to multiple affairs or renunciation, which are both different ways of perverting Venusian attibutes, depends on the overal tenor of the chart. Some times both are possible within one Life time.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â -Manoj> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > Sheevani sheevani147@ ...> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Sat, February 6, 2010 11:38:46 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: RE:Love, Flirtations and faithfullness.> > > > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > Namaste,> > > > > > In the chart you have given, venus is also the 12th lord, so native spends time and money within friends or network circle.> > > > > > Mars 11L(multiplicity) is also with venus, relationship karka and 5L..> > > > > > Venus is strong in shadbala but malefically aspected..(tainted)> > > > > > Moon is debilitated. . Jupiter 7L aspected by shani!> > > > > > warmest regards> > > Sheevani> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw" renunw@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > > > > > Let me give you an example chart where Ketu is in conjunction with Venus. A married man who has many liaisons with other women. He knows that the wife is aware of all this, and doesn't care a tuppence about it. > > > > > > > > Natal Chart> > > > > > > > October 6, 1951> > > > Time: 0:16:00> > > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)> > > > Place: 79 E 50' 00", 6 N 55' 00"> > > > Colombo, Sri Lanka> > > > > > > > He is Gemini Lagna, and 5HL Venus, 11HL Mars and Ketu are conjunct in 3H.> > > > > > > > Venus and Mars are in Ketu's star and Ketu is in Venus's star.> > > > > > > > Hope this chart would be helpful.> > > > > > > > blessings,> > > > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > > > > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > > > > > > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > > > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or normal marriage life?> > > > > > > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > > > > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > > > > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of "detachment" as> > > > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected with Rahu ..> > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes ...> > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > > > > > > > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Lalkitab Kb> > > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > > > faithfullness.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of them may> > > > > > be> > > > > > sanyasis too..//> > > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them most.> > > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@ >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Love, Flirtations and> > > > > > faithfullness. .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki pyaas> > > > > > badhayga.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release 02/06/10> > > > > > 07:35:00> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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February 8, 2010

thanks.Dear Renu ji,Looks like this yuti in males is not conducive to marriage as i said earlier specially with a conection of sat.Upapada L/L is also hapens to be ven in this case for both and the girl is already married.Navamsa seem to be the difference in both with both lagna and moon in diferent places.Moon as 11L of kama trikona of Rasi in upapada for both .Navamsa7H is the focal point for both along with lagna.Navamsa lagna is 7H of Rasi for the girl where as it is 8H of mars for the boy with deb sun in 7th.7L jup in 3rdH of kama trikona which is good for marriage for the girl in amsa it is 2ndH of maraka for the boy!!...I dont think the boy will not get married but late marriage is on the cards since sat® involvement with 7L jup.....Regards,gopi. , "renunw" <renunw wrote:>> > Dear Gopi ji> > The girl's p.o.b is Kurunegala, Sri Lanka and boy Colombo.> > blessings,> > Renu> , "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > p.o.b is colombo?!!i expect.....> > Regards,> > gopi.> > , "renunw" <renunw@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Vijay ji,> > >> > > ///What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or> > > normal marriage life?//> > >> > > This is about a female born on 12th Feb 1981 and a male born on 13th> > Feb> > > 1981.> > >> > > Girl: Boy:> > > Virgo Lagna, Pisces navamsha. Virgo Lagna, Aries navamsha.> > > Taurus Rashi -Rohini star Taurus Rashi - Mrig star> > > Current V. dasha - Ra/Ve> > > -Ju/Me> > >> > > All the other planets are placed in the same houses in both.> > >> > > Ve + Ke in 5H [Capricorn] aspected by Retro Ju.> > >> > > Ve + Ke in Gemini Navamsha.> > >> > > Retro Ju + Retro Sa in lagna.> > >> > > The girl got married in January 2010. She is pretty, tall and slim,> > and> > > well educated.> > >> > > She is very kind and generous.> > >> > > The boy is not the marrying type and has no interest whatsoever, no> > > university education but employed well, chubby and short.> > >> > > He is all out to help anyone at anytime and has a very large circle of> > > friends.> > >> > > What I want to point out is, whether Ve + Ke got anything to do with> > > marriage/no marriage in these two cases. Dasha plays a major role, no> > > doubt.> > >> > > For the girl Venus in RKA gave marriage in Ra/Ve period.> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Vijay ji,> > > > //What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > >> > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood> > or> > > > normal marriage life?//> > > > Really interesting!!It depends on other factors as well.For example> > i> > > > have ven conj(yuti) ketu in 11th(kama trikona).I am a bachelor and> > > > yogi(i practice yoga but dont preach)to the core.Ofcourse this yuti> > is> > > > aspd by Sat in my case.I think this yuti is not interested in> > > > yuvati!!..I also know a jivanmukta and also yogi who had a family> > and> > > > divorced.In his chart this yuti is in 12th in tauras.He also had> > > sun,jup> > > > yuti in lagna.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , "vijay.goel"> > > > goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,> > > > >> > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is> > > > opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.> > > > >> > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.> > > > >> > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood> > or> > > > normal marriage life?> > > > >> > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?> > > > >> > > > > Thankyou,> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Ram Jaswal"> > > > rkjaswal@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji> > > > > >> > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of> > > > "detachment" as> > > > > > opposed from "pyass - thirst" which I feel is more connected> > with> > > > Rahu ..> > > > > >> > > > > > Best wishes ...> > > > > >> > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > >> > > > > > Ram> > > > > >> > > > > > _____> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of> > > > Lalkitab Kb> > > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03> > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations> > and> > > > > > faithfullness.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many> > > of> > > > them may> > > > > > be> > > > > > sanyasis too..//> > > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them> > > > most.> > > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > _____> > > > > >> > > > > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@> > > > > > > > > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM> > > > > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations> > and> > > > > > faithfullness.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > Why do you take everything personal?> > > > > > My answer was case specific.> > > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.> > > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki> > shayion> > > ki> > > > pyaas> > > > > > badhayga.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Kulbir Bains> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release Date:> > > > 02/06/10> > > > > > 07:35:00> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

February 8, 2010

Dear Gopi ji,

Thanks...

//Looks like this yuti in males is not conducive to marriage //

Quite possible..recently I came across a chart of a male, with this yuti, and he

is still a bachelor. Here Mars aspects this combo.

A common feature in the lives of the eariler two natives is, both lost their

father when they were young and both have 1 sister each, an elder one for the

girl and a younger one for the boy.

blessings,

Renu

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> thanks.Dear Renu ji,

> Looks like this yuti in males is not conducive to marriage as i said

> earlier specially with a

>

> conection of sat.Upapada L/L is also hapens to be ven in this case for

> both and the girl is already

>

> married.Navamsa seem to be the difference in both with both lagna and

> moon in diferent

>

> places.Moon as 11L of kama trikona of Rasi in upapada for both

> .Navamsa7H is the focal point for

>

> both along with lagna.Navamsa lagna is 7H of Rasi for the girl where as

> it is 8H of mars for the

>

> boy with deb sun in 7th.7L jup in 3rdH of kama trikona which is good for

> marriage for the girl in

>

> amsa it is 2ndH of maraka for the boy!!...

> I dont think the boy will not get married but late marriage is on the

> cards since sat® involvement with 7L jup.....

> Regards,

> gopi.

> , " renunw " <renunw@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gopi ji

> >

> > The girl's p.o.b is Kurunegala, Sri Lanka and boy Colombo.

> >

> > blessings,

> >

> > Renu

> > , " gopalakrishna "

> gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Renu ji,

> > > p.o.b is colombo?!!i expect.....

> > > Regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > , " renunw " <renunw@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > >

> > > > ///What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \

> bachelorhood or

> > > > normal marriage life?//

> > > >

> > > > This is about a female born on 12th Feb 1981 and a male born on

> 13th

> > > Feb

> > > > 1981.

> > > >

> > > > Girl: Boy:

> > > > Virgo Lagna, Pisces navamsha. Virgo Lagna, Aries navamsha.

> > > > Taurus Rashi -Rohini star Taurus Rashi - Mrig

> star

> > > > Current V. dasha - Ra/Ve

> > > > -Ju/Me

> > > >

> > > > All the other planets are placed in the same houses in both.

> > > >

> > > > Ve + Ke in 5H [Capricorn] aspected by Retro Ju.

> > > >

> > > > Ve + Ke in Gemini Navamsha.

> > > >

> > > > Retro Ju + Retro Sa in lagna.

> > > >

> > > > The girl got married in January 2010. She is pretty, tall and

> slim,

> > > and

> > > > well educated.

> > > >

> > > > She is very kind and generous.

> > > >

> > > > The boy is not the marrying type and has no interest whatsoever,

> no

> > > > university education but employed well, chubby and short.

> > > >

> > > > He is all out to help anyone at anytime and has a very large

> circle of

> > > > friends.

> > > >

> > > > What I want to point out is, whether Ve + Ke got anything to do

> with

> > > > marriage/no marriage in these two cases. Dasha plays a major

> role, no

> > > > doubt.

> > > >

> > > > For the girl Venus in RKA gave marriage in Ra/Ve period.

> > > >

> > > > blessings,

> > > >

> > > > Renu

> > > >

> > > > , " gopalakrishna "

> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vijay ji,

> > > > > //What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \

> bachelorhood

> > > or

> > > > > normal marriage life?//

> > > > > Really interesting!!It depends on other factors as well.For

> example

> > > i

> > > > > have ven conj(yuti) ketu in 11th(kama trikona).I am a bachelor

> and

> > > > > yogi(i practice yoga but dont preach)to the core.Ofcourse this

> yuti

> > > is

> > > > > aspd by Sat in my case.I think this yuti is not interested in

> > > > > yuvati!!..I also know a jivanmukta and also yogi who had a

> family

> > > and

> > > > > divorced.In his chart this yuti is in 12th in tauras.He also had

> > > > sun,jup

> > > > > yuti in lagna.

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > > , " vijay.goel "

> > > > > goyalvj@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt

> detachment is

> > > > > opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \

> bachelorhood

> > > or

> > > > > normal marriage life?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on

> it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thankyou,

> > > > > > Best wishes,

> > > > > > Vijay Goel

> > > > > > Jaipur.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , " Ram Jaswal "

> > > > > rkjaswal@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of

> > > > > " detachment " as

> > > > > > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected

> > > with

> > > > > Rahu ..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes ...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ram

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On Behalf

> Of

> > > > > Lalkitab Kb

> > > > > > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Re: Re: Love,

> Flirtations

> > > and

> > > > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but

> many

> > > > of

> > > > > them may

> > > > > > > be

> > > > > > > sanyasis too..//

> > > > > > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt

> them

> > > > > most.

> > > > > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > > > > > Re: Re: Love,

> Flirtations

> > > and

> > > > > > > faithfullness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > > > > > My answer was case specific.

> > > > > > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > > > > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki

> > > shayion

> > > > ki

> > > > > pyaas

> > > > > > > badhayga.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Kulbir Bains

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > > > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release

> Date:

> > > > > 02/06/10

> > > > > > > 07:35:00

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 8, 2010

Thankyou Gopiji.

//I think this yuti is not interested in yuvati!!//

Very nice selection of words

best wishes,

Vijay Goel

Jaipur.

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay ji,

> //What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> >

> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

> normal marriage life?//

> Really interesting!!It depends on other factors as well.For example i

> have ven conj(yuti) ketu in 11th(kama trikona).I am a bachelor and

> yogi(i practice yoga but dont preach)to the core.Ofcourse this yuti is

> aspd by Sat in my case.I think this yuti is not interested in

> yuvati!!..I also know a jivanmukta and also yogi who had a family and

> divorced.In his chart this yuti is in 12th in tauras.He also had sun,jup

> yuti in lagna.

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , " vijay.goel "

> <goyalvj@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sita Ram ji,

> >

> > You are right, Ketu represent detachment but i doubt detachment is

> opposite of thirst, we need more understanding.

> >

> > What will be the IMPACT of venus + ketu (yuti) in the chart.

> >

> > Does it will give many affairs or vairagya sanyasi \ bachelorhood or

> normal marriage life?

> >

> > Can we have any examples of it ? any research of someone on it?

> >

> > Thankyou,

> > Best wishes,

> > Vijay Goel

> > Jaipur.

> >

> > , " Ram Jaswal "

> rkjaswal@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Kulbir ji

> > >

> > > My personal thoughts regarding Ketu's placement is one of

> " detachment " as

> > > opposed from " pyass - thirst " which I feel is more connected with

> Rahu ..

> > >

> > > Best wishes ...

> > >

> > > Jai Sita Ram

> > >

> > > Ram

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of

> Lalkitab Kb

> > > 06 February 2010 15:03

> > >

> > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > faithfullness.

> > >

> > > Sir, //I can find another 500 charts with ketu in 7th , but many of

> them may

> > > be

> > > sanyasis too..//

> > > may be that's why the thoughts / dream about Apsaras haunt them

> most.

> > > Astrology is the study of tendencies.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@

> > >

> > > Sat, 6 February, 2010 6:26:53 AM

> > > Re: Re: Love, Flirtations and

> > > faithfullness.

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > > Why do you take everything personal?

> > > My answer was case specific.

> > > I have discussed this aspect many times before.

> > > Ketu represents pyaas. jis bhi ghar mein hoga uss ghar ki shayion ki

> pyaas

> > > badhayga.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Kulbir Bains

> > >

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release Date:

> 02/06/10

> > > 07:35:00

> > >

> >

>

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