MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

December 4, 2009

Dear Deepak jiI don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigation's, injuriesor other -ve eventsI agree with youThanks and regardsGirish--- On Fri, 12/4/09, deepak sharma <deepak_rptech wrote:deepak sharma <deepak_rptechRe: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:58 AM

Dear Senthil Ji,I too agree with the "mystery".To my further surprise, you mentioned all +ve events and not even a single -ve significant event.I don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigations, injuriesor other -ve eventsBest Regards,Deepak Sharmasenthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>To:

ancient_indian_ astrologyFri, December 4, 2009 12:21:20 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

Yes Kulbirji .4th lord from lagna & moon ven & mars are deb.should not have passed from school level,but he is post graduate with honours. 6th & 7th lord exchanged -leading a happy life..Its a real mystery.Senthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, 4

December, 2009, 11:30 AM

Gopi ji,

The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;

Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.

What is the distinguishing factor?

That makes this case a mystery case study.

Regards

Kulbir

ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Senthil ji,

> I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a mystery

> since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the

> known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries during

> the astro journey which is unending.

> Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about jup

> in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd and

> kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i

> observed)... .

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon

> <horamag@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Senthil ji

> > I am not sure about that.

> > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.

> > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.

> > I hope we get some input from other members also.

> > Thanks and regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:

> >

> > senthil nathan jpshelters@

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Girishji

> > Ã‚ One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one lac

> doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks

> >

> > Senthil

> >

> > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:

> >

> > Girish menon horamag >

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear Senthilji

> > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.

> > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also

> > Thanks and regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> >

> > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear members

> > Ã‚ Please go through this horoscope.The native is Ã‚ my brother

> in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets

> sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th) ,10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first

> in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the

> reasons?Ã‚ Is it because JUP in 9th..

> > DETAILS

> > DOB04-08-1970

> > TOBÃ‚ 20.10PM

> > Ã‚ POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD

> >

> > Senthil

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> >

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

December 4, 2009

It is not a blind chart.I am the native's own bro in law.Unfortunately his dob is not given in the hospital profile. .http://cmft.nhs.uk/patient-consultant-bio.aspx?ConsultantID=177I have their family horoscope notebook with me .If anybody in chennai wants to see ,I can show the old notebook. thanksSenthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, Girish menon <horamag wrote:Girish menon <horamagRe: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 4:35 PM

Dear Deepak jiI don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigation's, injuriesor other -ve eventsI agree with youThanks and regardsGirish--- On Fri, 12/4/09, deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > wrote:deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, December 4, 2009, 1:58 AM

Dear Senthil Ji,I too agree with the "mystery".To my further surprise, you mentioned all +ve events and not even a single -ve significant event.I don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigations, injuriesor other -ve eventsBest Regards,Deepak Sharmasenthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>To:

ancient_indian_ astrologyFri, December 4, 2009 12:21:20 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

Yes Kulbirji .4th lord from lagna & moon ven & mars are deb.should not have passed from school level,but he is post graduate with honours. 6th & 7th lord exchanged -leading a happy life..Its a real mystery.Senthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, 4

December, 2009, 11:30 AM

Gopi ji,

The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;

Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.

What is the distinguishing factor?

That makes this case a mystery case study.

Regards

Kulbir

ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Senthil ji,

> I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a mystery

> since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the

> known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries during

> the astro journey which is unending.

> Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about jup

> in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd and

> kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i

> observed)... .

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon

> <horamag@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Senthil ji

> > I am not sure about that.

> > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.

> > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.

> > I hope we get some input from other members also.

> > Thanks and regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:

> >

> > senthil nathan jpshelters@

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Girishji

> > Ã‚ One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one lac

> doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks

> >

> > Senthil

> >

> > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:

> >

> > Girish menon horamag >

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear Senthilji

> > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.

> > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also

> > Thanks and regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> >

> > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear members

> > Ã‚ Please go through this horoscope.The native is Ã‚ my brother

> in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets

> sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th) ,10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first

> in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the

> reasons?Ã‚ Is it because JUP in 9th..

> > DETAILS

> > DOB04-08-1970

> > TOBÃ‚ 20.10PM

> > Ã‚ POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD

> >

> > Senthil

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> >

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

December 4, 2009

Dear Senthil jiThe problem is i with my limited knowledge i am unable to give explanation regarding his academic brillance. Moon represents mind is vargattoma and sun and moon has parivartam yoga but again is it sufficient to explain his academic brilliance.Mohan ji has given a informative explanations regarding the strength of the chart. Thanks and regardsGirish--- On Fri, 12/4/09, senthil nathan <jpshelters wrote:senthil nathan <jpsheltersRe: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:28 AM

It is not a blind chart.I am the native's own bro in law.Unfortunately his dob is not given in the hospital profile. .http://cmft. nhs.uk/patient- consultant- bio.aspx? ConsultantID= 177I have their family horoscope notebook with me .If anybody in chennai wants to see ,I can show the old notebook. thanksSenthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, Girish menon <horamag > wrote:Girish menon <horamag >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPETo:

ancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, 4 December, 2009, 4:35 PM

Dear Deepak jiI don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigation's, injuriesor other -ve eventsI agree with youThanks and regardsGirish--- On Fri, 12/4/09, deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ > wrote:deepak sharma <deepak_rptech@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, December 4, 2009, 1:58 AM

Dear Senthil Ji,I too agree with the "mystery".To my further surprise, you mentioned all +ve events and not even a single -ve significant event.I don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigations, injuriesor other -ve eventsBest Regards,Deepak Sharmasenthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>To:

ancient_indian_ astrologyFri, December 4, 2009 12:21:20 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

Yes Kulbirji .4th lord from lagna & moon ven & mars are deb.should not have passed from school level,but he is post graduate with honours. 6th & 7th lord exchanged -leading a happy life..Its a real mystery.Senthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote:kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, 4

December, 2009, 11:30 AM

Gopi ji,

The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;

Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.

What is the distinguishing factor?

That makes this case a mystery case study.

Regards

Kulbir

ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote:

>

> Dear Senthil ji,

> I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a mystery

> since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the

> known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries during

> the astro journey which is unending.

> Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about jup

> in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd and

> kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i

> observed)... .

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon

> <horamag@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Senthil ji

> > I am not sure about that.

> > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.

> > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.

> > I hope we get some input from other members also.

> > Thanks and regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:

> >

> > senthil nathan jpshelters@

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Girishji

> > Ã‚ One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one lac

> doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks

> >

> > Senthil

> >

> > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:

> >

> > Girish menon horamag >

> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear Senthilji

> > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.

> > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also

> > Thanks and regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> >

> > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM

> >

> > Ã‚

> >

> > Dear members

> > Ã‚ Please go through this horoscope.The native is Ã‚ my brother

> in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets

> sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th) ,10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first

> in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the

> reasons?Ã‚ Is it because JUP in 9th..

> > DETAILS

> > DOB04-08-1970

> > TOBÃ‚ 20.10PM

> > Ã‚ POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD

> >

> > Senthil

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> >

> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

> >

>

The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.

December 4, 2009

Gopi ji;

my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my point in a

clear manner.

what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with matching birth

data as this native. but did all excel in academics like him?

there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny as promised

by the horoscope.

Astrology is the study of tendencies;

you are absolutely right it is a good case study;

what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?

if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?

Regards

Kulbir

, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927

wrote:

>

> Kulbir ji,

> i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If you

> took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right.

> //What is the distinguishing factor?//

> Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a good

> case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we must

> respect others opinions as well.

> Love and regards,

> gopi.

> , " kulbir "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > Gopi ji,

> >

> > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;

> >

> > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope

> could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.

> >

> > What is the distinguishing factor?

> >

> > That makes this case a mystery case study.

> > Regards

> > Kulbir

> >

> > , " gopalakrishna "

> gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Senthil ji,

> > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a

> mystery

> > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the

> > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries

> during

> > > the astro journey which is unending.

> > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about

> jup

> > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd

> and

> > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i

> > > observed)....

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > , Girish menon

> > > <horamag@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Senthil ji

> > > > I am not sure about that.

> > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.

> > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.

> > > > I hope we get some input from other members also.

> > > > Thanks and regards

> > > > Girish

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@

> > > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > Girishji

> > > > Â One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one

> lac

> > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks

> > > >

> > > > Senthil

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Girish menon horamag >

> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > Dear Senthilji

> > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.

> > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also

> > > > Thanks and regards

> > > > Girish

> > > >

> > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > > > " groups " <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM

> > > >

> > > > Â

> > > >

> > > > Dear members

> > > > Â Please go through this horoscope.The native is Â my

> brother

> > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga

> planets

> > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state

> first

> > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the

> > > reasons?Â Is it because JUP in 9th.

> > > > DETAILS

> > > > DOB04-08-1970

> > > > TOBÂ 20.10PM

> > > > Â POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD

> > > >

> > > > Senthil

> > > >

> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> Homepage.

> > > >

> > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> Homepage.

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

December 4, 2009

Dear Kulbir ji,no apologies needed for this simple matter.Let's proceed with astrology.I will get back to you with your qustions since i am busy i did not look into the chart till now...Love and regards,gopi. , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Gopi ji;> my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my point in a clear manner.> what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with matching birth data as this native. but did all excel in academics like him?> there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny as promised by the horoscope.> Astrology is the study of tendencies;> you are absolutely right it is a good case study;> what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?> if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?> > Regards> Kulbir> > > , "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Kulbir ji,> > i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If you> > took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right.> > //What is the distinguishing factor?//> > Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a good> > case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we must> > respect others opinions as well.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "kulbir"> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > >> > > Gopi ji,> > >> > > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;> > >> > > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope> > could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.> > >> > > What is the distinguishing factor?> > >> > > That makes this case a mystery case study.> > > Regards> > > Kulbir> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a> > mystery> > > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the> > > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries> > during> > > > the astro journey which is unending.> > > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about> > jup> > > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd> > and> > > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i> > > > observed)....> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , Girish menon> > > > <horamag@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Senthil ji> > > > > I am not sure about that.> > > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.> > > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.> > > > > I hope we get some input from other members also.> > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > Girish> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@> > > > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Girishji> > > > > Â One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one> > lac> > > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks> > > > >> > > > > Senthil> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Girish menon horamag >> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Senthilji> > > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.> > > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also> > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > Girish> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>> > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear members> > > > > Â Please go through this horoscope.The native is Â my> > brother> > > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga> > planets> > > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state> > first> > > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the> > > > reasons?Â Is it because JUP in 9th.> > > > > DETAILS> > > > > DOB04-08-1970> > > > > TOBÂ 20.10PM> > > > > Â POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD> > > > >> > > > > Senthil> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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December 4, 2009

Dear senthil ji/Kulbir ji,my point of view always is different from majority either in astrology or in life in general..So i am in minority.I always speak just pure and naked truth.When i first went to an astrologer in 1996 for the sake of my brother incidentally the astrologer asked me if i already know astrology, when my answer was negative he said one thing which i never forget in life that ''i will not think like others''.It is the same here aswell when majority see it as mystery i dont.For me the WHOLE LIFE IS MYSTERY.Coming back tothe chart i give below my PERSONAL OPINION BUT YOU PLEASE DONT TAKE IT PERSONAL....and be practical and objective.Whenever a chart has debilitated/exalted planets in 3,6,10,11 houses the native raises in life.My observation is more so when they are debilitated.They lift the native to unbelievable hights.//what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?//yes it may be a mystery also since YK ven is debilitated in 8th H which is conected with mystery apart from L/L and others.The beauty is L/L sat is weakest in shadbala but in 3rd in mutual asp with a natural benefic.Whenever L/L is asp by benefics that too jup the person is bound to succeed is a dictum.Mo is the most powerful 6L of competition with 5thL of higher education in RK axis which represents foreign as well.7thH is a powerhouse which gives power to the person.6L in exch with7th and with mer the 5L of higher education and karaka for knowledge.3rdL of effort mars with 7Lpower in 6th H of competition!!If you see all 3,6,10,11 houses /lords are involved in his success.//if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?//i have not gone into it since i first see positives in any given chart.As Manoj ji mentioned it is easy to postmortem for astrologers(than doctors)..ha,ha,haLast but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a success/failureLove and regards,gopi , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Gopi ji;> my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my point in a clear manner.> what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with matching birth data as this native. but did all excel in academics like him?> there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny as promised by the horoscope.> Astrology is the study of tendencies;> you are absolutely right it is a good case study;> what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?> if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?> > Regards> Kulbir> > > , "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Kulbir ji,> > i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If you> > took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right.> > //What is the distinguishing factor?//> > Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a good> > case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we must> > respect others opinions as well.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "kulbir"> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > >> > > Gopi ji,> > >> > > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;> > >> > > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope> > could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.> > >> > > What is the distinguishing factor?> > >> > > That makes this case a mystery case study.> > > Regards> > > Kulbir> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a> > mystery> > > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the> > > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries> > during> > > > the astro journey which is unending.> > > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about> > jup> > > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd> > and> > > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i> > > > observed)....> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , Girish menon> > > > <horamag@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Senthil ji> > > > > I am not sure about that.> > > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.> > > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.> > > > > I hope we get some input from other members also.> > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > Girish> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@> > > > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Girishji> > > > > Â One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one> > lac> > > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks> > > > >> > > > > Senthil> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Girish menon horamag >> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Senthilji> > > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.> > > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also> > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > Girish> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>> > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear members> > > > > Â Please go through this horoscope.The native is Â my> > brother> > > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga> > planets> > > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state> > first> > > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the> > > > reasons?Â Is it because JUP in 9th.> > > > > DETAILS> > > > > DOB04-08-1970> > > > > TOBÂ 20.10PM> > > > > Â POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD> > > > >> > > > > Senthil> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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December 4, 2009

Thank you for the analysis.,At least you did not say that it is a blind chartSenthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Friday, 4 December, 2009, 1:31 PM

Dear Senthil Ji,

Yes, it is tricky. It is past midnight here in Az so I will be brief . Key to this chart are:

1. Yogas: Yogas are paramount, Look at the Yogas formed by Jupiter involving Lagna Lord Saturn. Jupiter by being ruler of 2H/11H in the powerful 9H aspecting LL Sa (mutual aspect), lifts this chart in to the stratosphere, with a few key conditions, that need to be satisfied.

We have to be reasonable. All people born in this 1.5 - 2hr window will have this chart. Will all of them have this rise? No. Look at Navamsha for clue, see how many planets are activated by being in Jupiter's Navamsha, especially his Sag (MT) Navamsha. Most importantly LL Sa, 10L Ma, 7L and karaka for career Sun are all in Ju Navamsha.

2. Please read Uttara Kala Amrita about Dasha Phala when Saturn and Venus are both weak and placed in 6/8 from each other. This is a very powerful combination for Rise in life. Especially since he had Venus dasha early, it lifted him.

3. See Panchamsha for Education. Look at Me with 100% dig Bala in his Friend's sign. LL Jupiter in 5H. LL from Rashi, Sa, Exalted in 11H of titles/diplomas. Sa is also the 2L of Panchamsha. Ve is in his own house in 6H of competetion in Panchamsha.

Is it a mystery now that he did so well in his education in Venus dasha and in Ve-Me he scored state rank?

4. Look at Dashamsha for Career: Once again look at the strength of the planets Ve and Sa in D-10. Deb Mars's dispositor in Rashi is in a decent placement both in rashi and Dashamaha. Once again Yoga in Rashi is critical between Mars and Sun.

Dasha sequence for this individual is very favourable. Venus followed by Sun dasha very nice for Career.

Why did Sun dasha go so well for him? Sun is avayogi in 6H, in Nakshatra of 8L Me. So negative of 2 negatives is positive.

Further Dagsha rashis are Leo and Capricon. So this does two critical things. It reverses the negative qualities of Avayogi Sun (being lord of a Dagdha Rashi). It also reverses the 12H quality of Saturn, hence Sa becomes primarily the LL. Both very fortunate.

So the Avayogi has 3 negative reversals, ensuring that Sun dasha will instead give him wealth.

Sa is Yogi, Ju is Duplicate Yogi, Su is Avayogi. Yogi and duplicate Yogi aspecting each other and Yogi being the LL and Duplicate Yogi being the 2L/11L in the 9H. Just this last line says the story of his life.

However, his married life, even though quite ok, will not be great. It is quite ok because Venus, though deb in Rashi, has moved 5 signs to his friend's house in D-9 and is completely otherwise unafflicted in Rashi. Even there are no malefics in trine to Venus. However, parivartan between 7L and 6L brings conflicts now and then. Ra-Ke in 1-7 axis is also troublesome for relationship. His Rahu dasha will see challenges to his marriage/relationsh ip. Plus 7H being Dagdha Rashi is not good. So problems in relationships are possible in future.

Ofcourse Post mortem is always easy, but I tried not to stretch too much ...

Regards,

-Manoj

senthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>groups <ancient_indian_ astrology>Thu, December 3, 2009 3:04:00 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

Dear members Please go through this horoscope.The native is my brother in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th.DETAILSDOB04-08-1970TOB 20.10PM POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD Senthil

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December 4, 2009

//Last but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a success/failure//

Sir. Well said. This is the crux of the matter.

Love and regards,

Bhaskar.

, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927 wrote:>> Dear senthil ji/Kulbir ji,> my point of view always is different from majority either in astrology> or in life in general..So i am in minority.I always speak just pure and> naked truth.When i first went to an astrologer in 1996 for the sake of> my brother incidentally the astrologer asked me if i already know> astrology, when my answer was negative he said one thing which i never> forget in life that ''i will not think like others''.> It is the same here aswell when majority see it as mystery i dont.For me> the WHOLE LIFE IS MYSTERY.> Coming back tothe chart i give below my PERSONAL OPINION BUT YOU PLEASE> DONT TAKE> IT PERSONAL....and be practical and objective.> > Whenever a chart has debilitated/exalted planets in 3,6,10,11 houses the> native raises in life.My observation is more so when they are> debilitated.They lift the native to unbelievable hights.> //what made the native achieve his full positive potential in> academics?//> yes it may be a mystery also since YK ven is debilitated in 8th H which> is conected with mystery apart from L/L and others.The beauty is L/L sat> is weakest in shadbala but in 3rd in mutual asp with a natural> benefic.Whenever L/L is asp by benefics that too jup the person is bound> to succeed is a dictum.> Mo is the most powerful 6L of competition with 5thL of higher education> in RK axis which represents foreign as well.7thH is a powerhouse which> gives power to the person.6L in exch with7th and with mer the 5L of> higher education and karaka for knowledge.3rdL of effort mars with> 7Lpower in 6th H of competition!!If you see all 3,6,10,11 houses /lords> are involved in his success.> //if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?//> i have not gone into it since i first see positives in any given> chart.As Manoj ji mentioned it is easy to postmortem for> astrologers(than doctors)..ha,ha,ha> Last but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a> success/failure> Love and regards,> gopi> > > > , "kulbir"> kulbirbains@ wrote:> >> > Gopi ji;> > my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my point> in a clear manner.> > what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with> matching birth data as this native. but did all excel in academics like> him?> > there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny> as promised by the horoscope.> > Astrology is the study of tendencies;> > you are absolutely right it is a good case study;> > what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?> > if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?> >> > Regards> > Kulbir> >> >> > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> > >> > > Kulbir ji,> > > i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If> you> > > took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right.> > > //What is the distinguishing factor?//> > > Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a good> > > case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we must> > > respect others opinions as well.> > > Love and regards,> > > gopi.> > > , "kulbir"> > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Gopi ji,> > > >> > > > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;> > > >> > > > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope> > > could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.> > > >> > > > What is the distinguishing factor?> > > >> > > > That makes this case a mystery case study.> > > > Regards> > > > Kulbir> > > >> > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a> > > mystery> > > > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the> > > > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries> > > during> > > > > the astro journey which is unending.> > > > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said> about> > > jup> > > > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes> 2nd> > > and> > > > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i> > > > > observed)....> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > gopi.> > > > > , Girish menon> > > > > <horamag@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Senthil ji> > > > > > I am not sure about that.> > > > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.> > > > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.> > > > > > I hope we get some input from other members also.> > > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > > Girish> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@> > > > > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Girishji> > > > > > Â One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels> one> > > lac> > > > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks> > > > > >> > > > > > Senthil> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Girish menon horamag >> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Senthilji> > > > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.> > > > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also> > > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > > Girish> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>> > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear members> > > > > > Â Please go through this horoscope.The native is Â my> > > brother> > > > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga> > > planets> > > > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got> state> > > first> > > > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are> the> > > > > reasons?Â Is it because JUP in 9th.> > > > > > DETAILS> > > > > > DOB04-08-1970> > > > > > TOBÂ 20.10PM> > > > > > Â POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD> > > > > >> > > > > > Senthil> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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December 4, 2009

Dear gopijiYou have used the upachaya house concept which we all missed Excellent and congrats.RegardsSanthoshSent from BlackBerry® on Airtel "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:22:19 -0000 Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Dear senthil ji/Kulbir ji,my point of view always is different from majority either in astrology or in life in general..So i am in minority.I always speak just pure and naked truth.When i first went to an astrologer in 1996 for the sake of my brother incidentally the astrologer asked me if i already know astrology, when my answer was negative he said one thing which i never forget in life that ''i will not think like others''.It is the same here aswell when majority see it as mystery i dont.For me the WHOLE LIFE IS MYSTERY.Coming back tothe chart i give below my PERSONAL OPINION BUT YOU PLEASE DONT TAKE IT PERSONAL....and be practical and objective.Whenever a chart has debilitated/exalted planets in 3,6,10,11 houses the native raises in life.My observation is more so when they are debilitated.They lift the native to unbelievable hights.//what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?//yes it may be a mystery also since YK ven is debilitated in 8th H which is conected with mystery apart from L/L and others.The beauty is L/L sat is weakest in shadbala but in 3rd in mutual asp with a natural benefic.Whenever L/L is asp by benefics that too jup the person is bound to succeed is a dictum.Mo is the most powerful 6L of competition with 5thL of higher education in RK axis which represents foreign as well.7thH is a powerhouse which gives power to the person.6L in exch with7th and with mer the 5L of higher education and karaka for knowledge.3rdL of effort mars with 7Lpower in 6th H of competition!!If you see all 3,6,10,11 houses /lords are involved in his success.//if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?//i have not gone into it since i first see positives in any given chart.As Manoj ji mentioned it is easy to postmortem for astrologers(than doctors)..ha,ha,haLast but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a success/failureLove and regards,gopi , "kulbir" <kulbirbains wrote:>> Gopi ji;> my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my point in a clear manner.> what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with matching birth data as this native. but did all excel in academics like him?> there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny as promised by the horoscope.> Astrology is the study of tendencies;> you are absolutely right it is a good case study;> what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?> if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?> > Regards> Kulbir> > > , "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Kulbir ji,> > i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If you> > took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right.> > //What is the distinguishing factor?//> > Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a good> > case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we must> > respect others opinions as well.> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > , "kulbir"> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > >> > > Gopi ji,> > >> > > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;> > >> > > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope> > could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.> > >> > > What is the distinguishing factor?> > >> > > That makes this case a mystery case study.> > > Regards> > > Kulbir> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a> > mystery> > > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the> > > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries> > during> > > > the astro journey which is unending.> > > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about> > jup> > > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd> > and> > > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i> > > > observed)....> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , Girish menon> > > > <horamag@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Senthil ji> > > > > I am not sure about that.> > > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.> > > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.> > > > > I hope we get some input from other members also.> > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > Girish> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@> > > > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Girishji> > > > > Â One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one> > lac> > > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks> > > > >> > > > > Senthil> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Girish menon horamag >> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Senthilji> > > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.> > > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also> > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > Girish> > > > >> > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>> > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear members> > > > > Â Please go through this horoscope.The native is Â my> > brother> > > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga> > planets> > > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state> > first> > > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the> > > > reasons?Â Is it because JUP in 9th.> > > > > DETAILS> > > > > DOB04-08-1970> > > > > TOBÂ 20.10PM> > > > > Â POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD> > > > >> > > > > Senthil> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > Homepage.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > Homepage.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

December 4, 2009

thank you Bhaskar ji...Love and regards,gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > //Last but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a> success/failure//> > Sir. Well said. This is the crux of the matter.> > Love and regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , "gopalakrishna"> gopi_b927@ wrote:> >> > Dear senthil ji/Kulbir ji,> > my point of view always is different from majority either in astrology> > or in life in general..So i am in minority.I always speak just pure> and> > naked truth.When i first went to an astrologer in 1996 for the sake of> > my brother incidentally the astrologer asked me if i already know> > astrology, when my answer was negative he said one thing which i never> > forget in life that ''i will not think like others''.> > It is the same here aswell when majority see it as mystery i dont.For> me> > the WHOLE LIFE IS MYSTERY.> > Coming back tothe chart i give below my PERSONAL OPINION BUT YOU> PLEASE> > DONT TAKE> > IT PERSONAL....and be practical and objective.> >> > Whenever a chart has debilitated/exalted planets in 3,6,10,11 houses> the> > native raises in life.My observation is more so when they are> > debilitated.They lift the native to unbelievable hights.> > //what made the native achieve his full positive potential in> > academics?//> > yes it may be a mystery also since YK ven is debilitated in 8th H> which> > is conected with mystery apart from L/L and others.The beauty is L/L> sat> > is weakest in shadbala but in 3rd in mutual asp with a natural> > benefic.Whenever L/L is asp by benefics that too jup the person is> bound> > to succeed is a dictum.> > Mo is the most powerful 6L of competition with 5thL of higher> education> > in RK axis which represents foreign as well.7thH is a powerhouse which> > gives power to the person.6L in exch with7th and with mer the 5L of> > higher education and karaka for knowledge.3rdL of effort mars with> > 7Lpower in 6th H of competition!!If you see all 3,6,10,11 houses> /lords> > are involved in his success.> > //if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?//> > i have not gone into it since i first see positives in any given> > chart.As Manoj ji mentioned it is easy to postmortem for> > astrologers(than doctors)..ha,ha,ha> > Last but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a> > success/failure> > Love and regards,> > gopi> >> >> >> > , "kulbir"> > kulbirbains@ wrote:> > >> > > Gopi ji;> > > my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my> point> > in a clear manner.> > > what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with> > matching birth data as this native. but did all excel in academics> like> > him?> > > there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny> > as promised by the horoscope.> > > Astrology is the study of tendencies;> > > you are absolutely right it is a good case study;> > > what made the native achieve his full positive potential in> academics?> > > if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?> > >> > > Regards> > > Kulbir> > >> > >> > > , "gopalakrishna"> > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Kulbir ji,> > > > i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If> > you> > > > took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right.> > > > //What is the distinguishing factor?//> > > > Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a> good> > > > case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we> must> > > > respect others opinions as well.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > gopi.> > > > , "kulbir"> > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Gopi ji,> > > > >> > > > > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;> > > > >> > > > > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching> horoscope> > > > could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.> > > > >> > > > > What is the distinguishing factor?> > > > >> > > > > That makes this case a mystery case study.> > > > > Regards> > > > > Kulbir> > > > >> > > > > , "gopalakrishna"> > > > gopi_b927@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Senthil ji,> > > > > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is> a> > > > mystery> > > > > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the> > > > > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub> mysteries> > > > during> > > > > > the astro journey which is unending.> > > > > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said> > about> > > > jup> > > > > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes> > 2nd> > > > and> > > > > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what> i> > > > > > observed)....> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > gopi.> > > > > > , Girish menon> > > > > > <horamag@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Senthil ji> > > > > > > I am not sure about that.> > > > > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.> > > > > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.> > > > > > > I hope we get some input from other members also.> > > > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@> > > > > > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Girishji> > > > > > > Â One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru> cancels> > one> > > > lac> > > > > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Senthil> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Girish menon horamag >> > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Senthilji> > > > > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.> > > > > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also> > > > > > > Thanks and regards> > > > > > > Girish> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > > > > > > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>> > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Â> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear members> > > > > > > Â Please go through this horoscope.The native is Â my> > > > brother> > > > > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga> > > > planets> > > > > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got> > state> > > > first> > > > > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What> are> > the> > > > > > reasons?Â Is it because JUP in 9th.> > > > > > > DETAILS> > > > > > > DOB04-08-1970> > > > > > > TOBÂ 20.10PM> > > > > > > Â POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Senthil> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > Homepage.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > > > Homepage.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

December 4, 2009

That's why i also said i am diferent...-gopi. , santhosh wrote:>> Dear gopiji

> You have used the upachaya house concept which we all missed > Excellent and congrats.

> Regards

> Santhosh

> > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel

> >

> "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927

> Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:22:19 >

> Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > Dear senthil ji/Kulbir ji,

> my point of view always is different from majority either in astrology

> or in life in general..So i am in minority.I always speak just pure and

> naked truth.When i first went to an astrologer in 1996 for the sake of

> my brother incidentally the astrologer asked me if i already know

> astrology, when my answer was negative he said one thing which i never

> forget in life that ''i will not think like others''.

> It is the same here aswell when majority see it as mystery i dont.For me

> the WHOLE LIFE IS MYSTERY.

> Coming back tothe chart i give below my PERSONAL OPINION BUT YOU PLEASE

> DONT TAKE

> IT PERSONAL....and be practical and objective.

> > Whenever a chart has debilitated/exalted planets in 3,6,10,11 houses the

> native raises in life.My observation is more so when they are

> debilitated.They lift the native to unbelievable hights.

> //what made the native achieve his full positive potential in

> academics?//

> yes it may be a mystery also since YK ven is debilitated in 8th H which

> is conected with mystery apart from L/L and others.The beauty is L/L sat

> is weakest in shadbala but in 3rd in mutual asp with a natural

> benefic.Whenever L/L is asp by benefics that too jup the person is bound

> to succeed is a dictum.

> Mo is the most powerful 6L of competition with 5thL of higher education

> in RK axis which represents foreign as well.7thH is a powerhouse which

> gives power to the person.6L in exch with7th and with mer the 5L of

> higher education and karaka for knowledge.3rdL of effort mars with

> 7Lpower in 6th H of competition!!If you see all 3,6,10,11 houses /lords

> are involved in his success.

> //if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?//

> i have not gone into it since i first see positives in any given

> chart.As Manoj ji mentioned it is easy to postmortem for

> astrologers(than doctors)..ha,ha,ha

> Last but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a

> success/failure

> Love and regards,

> gopi

> > > > , "kulbir"

> kulbirbains@ wrote:

> >

> > Gopi ji;

> > my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my point

> in a clear manner.

> > what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with

> matching birth data as this native. but did all excel in academics like

> him?

> > there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny

> as promised by the horoscope.

> > Astrology is the study of tendencies;

> > you are absolutely right it is a good case study;

> > what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics?

> > if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?

> >

> > Regards

> > Kulbir

> >

> > , "gopalakrishna"

> gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Kulbir ji,

> > > i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If

> you

> > > took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right.

> > > //What is the distinguishing factor?//

> > > Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a good

> > > case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we must

> > > respect others opinions as well.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > gopi.

> > > , "kulbir"

> > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Gopi ji,

> > > >

> > > > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;

> > > >

> > > > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope

> > > could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.

> > > >

> > > > What is the distinguishing factor?

> > > >

> > > > That makes this case a mystery case study.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Kulbir

> > > >

> > > > , "gopalakrishna"

> > > gopi_b927@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Senthil ji,

> > > > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a

> > > mystery

> > > > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the

> > > > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries

> > > during

> > > > > the astro journey which is unending.

> > > > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said

> about

> > > jup

> > > > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes

> 2nd

> > > and

> > > > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i

> > > > > observed)....

> > > > > Love and regards,

> > > > > gopi.

> > > > > , Girish menon

> > > > > <horamag@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Senthil ji

> > > > > > I am not sure about that.

> > > > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.

> > > > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.

> > > > > > I hope we get some input from other members also.

> > > > > > Thanks and regards

> > > > > > Girish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@

> > > > > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Girishji

> > > > > > Â One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels

> one

> > > lac

> > > > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Senthil

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Girish menon horamag >

> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Senthilji

> > > > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.

> > > > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also

> > > > > > Thanks and regards

> > > > > > Girish

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

> > > > > > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>

> > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Â

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members

> > > > > > Â Please go through this horoscope.The native is Â my

> > > brother

> > > > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga

> > > planets

> > > > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got

> state

> > > first

> > > > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are

> the

> > > > > reasons?Â Is it because JUP in 9th.

> > > > > > DETAILS

> > > > > > DOB04-08-1970

> > > > > > TOBÂ 20.10PM

> > > > > > Â POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Senthil

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > Homepage.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your

> > > Homepage.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >>

December 4, 2009

Senthil Ji,

Venus-Saturn dasas are very very tricky. When Ve-Sa are BOTH weak and placed at 6/8 from each other AND they are not related by YOGA to each other, this becomes a potent Raja Yoga like combination for the native. So here Uttara Kalamrita special condition takes over. If they are related to each other by yoga, then one has to follow Laghu Parashari/BPHS directives.

If BOTH Ve and Saturn are extremely strong and are NOT owning bad houses and are NOT at 6-8 or 2-12 to each other and if they do NOT form a Yoga, then despite their strength, the native will FALL in Ve-Sa or Sa-Ve.

One of my teachers taught this with 50 example charts on Ve-Sa dasha alone which he has culled over 20 years. Like this there are several exceptions in Jyotish. If we don't know these exceptions then we are forced to come up with our own pet theories which will work in a few charts, but not on all charts. This is the dilemma we all face.

I admit, if I had not learned this exception, it would have been very difficult to analyze this chart, especially since Venus dasha comes so early and in a critical stage.

Regards,

-Manoj

senthil nathan <jpshelters Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 7:28:36 AMRe: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE

Thank you for the analysis.,At least you did not say that it is a blind chartSenthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote:

Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, 4 December, 2009, 1:31 PM