Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Dear Manoj Ji I second your opinion on Deb Ju and have an live example with a chart wherein with Ju deb in 2nd house and Ra dasha running the person at the age of 24 with 2 years of working has become a Millionaire, he makes money effortlessly and is very different from a normal person and how people live life. He made money with the stock market going up and he made money with the stock market going down. 4 Apr 1984, 1:20 a.m. Delhi This person is very famous and well known amongst the top stock market people in India, TV channels and big private investors who want to park there money through professional managers. this guy does not even have a graduation. but to your question i can just share a example but not why it is so?? best regards Karan , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Neelam Ji, > > Infact it seems debilitated planets (especially Jupiter) seems to more often give larger material gains than exalted planets (atleast in my observation on deb Jupiter). What is the reason for this? Is there any mention in the classics of this phenomena? >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > > Fri, December 4, 2009 11:48:58 AM > Re: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > >  > Dear All, > > A bit late for this thread, but some basic points on the MYSTERY Chart. Please ignore if there is any repetition due to my oversight. > > Debilitated planets giving success in education, career or material gains is no mystery. > > A debilitated Mars has to be seen in a different light as it goes to queen’s friendly palace and is someone who must obey her. A debilitated Venus is also in friendly territory in Budhha’s house. Saturn neecha in 3 gives the endurance and concentration to work for long hours. And finally deb planets are good in upchay sthans we all know why. > > Mars-Sun conjunction in 6H is the classic placement for a doctor (as well as a patient if weak), depending upon the lordship and strength (not debilitation) . When Mars is 10L/3L and Sun is 7L in Cancer both with high shadbal, both LL and 10L aspect 12H of hospitals and 9/11 lord of gains, there’s an exchange of luminaries with dasha sequence of Sun, Moon and Mars at the peak of education and career, the person is likely to be a successful doctor. An afflicted moon with an aspect on lagna is an added factor.  > > Another very important point is the placement of key planets in Kendra positions. Planet in 10H from any planet becomes karaka for that planet (BJ). Planets for profession, 10L/7L Mars and Sun are closely conjunct in Kendra to LL Saturn and Jup 9/11 lord of income and gains. > > Manoj ji, if I may add, for education, we are advised to check chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education. > > What may be interesting to note is what toll these debbies have taken from the native to give these goodies? What about the younger siblings, may be none? Male issues? Maternal uncles? > > Hope this helps > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Dear Karan jiSome confusion regarding the dashaAs per the DOB provided this native is undergoing chandra dasha not rahu dashaThanks and regardsGirish--- On Fri, 12/4/09, Karan <karan wrote:Karan <karan Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:30 PM Dear Manoj Ji I second your opinion on Deb Ju and have an live example with a chart wherein with Ju deb in 2nd house and Ra dasha running the person at the age of 24 with 2 years of working has become a Millionaire, he makes money effortlessly and is very different from a normal person and how people live life. He made money with the stock market going up and he made money with the stock market going down. 4 Apr 1984, 1:20 a.m. Delhi This person is very famous and well known amongst the top stock market people in India, TV channels and big private investors who want to park there money through professional managers. this guy does not even have a graduation. but to your question i can just share a example but not why it is so?? best regards Karan ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Neelam Ji, > > Infact it seems debilitated planets (especially Jupiter) seems to more often give larger material gains than exalted planets (atleast in my observation on deb Jupiter). What is the reason for this? Is there any mention in the classics of this phenomena? >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Fri, December 4, 2009 11:48:58 AM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > >  > Dear All, > > A bit late for this thread, but some basic points on the MYSTERY Chart. Please ignore if there is any repetition due to my oversight. > > Debilitated planets giving success in education, career or material gains is no mystery. > > A debilitated Mars has to be seen in a different light as it goes to queen’s friendly palace and is someone who must obey her. A debilitated Venus is also in friendly territory in Budhha’s house. Saturn neecha in 3 gives the endurance and concentration to work for long hours. And finally deb planets are good in upchay sthans we all know why. > > Mars-Sun conjunction in 6H is the classic placement for a doctor (as well as a patient if weak), depending upon the lordship and strength (not debilitation) . When Mars is 10L/3L and Sun is 7L in Cancer both with high shadbal, both LL and 10L aspect 12H of hospitals and 9/11 lord of gains, there’s an exchange of luminaries with dasha sequence of Sun, Moon and Mars at the peak of education and career, the person is likely to be a successful doctor. An afflicted moon with an aspect on lagna is an added factor.  > > Another very important point is the placement of key planets in Kendra positions. Planet in 10H from any planet becomes karaka for that planet (BJ). Planets for profession, 10L/7L Mars and Sun are closely conjunct in Kendra to LL Saturn and Jup 9/11 lord of income and gains. > > Manoj ji, if I may add, for education, we are advised to check chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education. > > What may be interesting to note is what toll these debbies have taken from the native to give these goodies? What about the younger siblings, may be none? Male issues? Maternal uncles? > > Hope this helps > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Dear Manoj ji,One man’s poison is other man’s pudding! It all depends on how one deals with what life has to offer. Aspect of Jupiter on Lagna and LL from 9H is a sure blessing in this sense and an astrologer can see that one would’ve happily traversed on the journey of life despite difficult placements. Complicated situations are moulded to one’s advantage for soul’s progress. Mercury and moon with Ketu is an ominous combination in 7H especially when Moon and Mercury are 6/8 lords, but 18 hrs at work results in getting verbose with patients rather than spouse, being in 2H from 6H and saves the marriage. The energy loop caused by the exchange of luminaries, pushes the positive 6H affairs rather than terminating the 7H affairs. Even Rahu alone in aquarius, is rather like a blessing of LL and would amplify the good affects. Venus, though in debilitation is in kartri. It may give some health problem like diabetes in Rahu’s period, but a benefic in 8H of mangalya (2nd form 7H) would promote marital felicity. Wife would be good looking with a sweet voice and good aesthetic sense. A vargottam moon also plants his mind firmly into 7H affairs. It may not be a wonderful marriage, but surely convenient and free of any major problem.Just some observations!:-)RegardsNeelam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Dear Kulbirji, Yes Ju in 9H is good. I was commenting only about it canceling 1 lac doshas, which is stretching it too far. Thank you for the insight into the details in the lal kitab. Since, I now consider you as the LK specialist on this group, can you please give me some history about LK. When was it written? Who wrote it? Was it written in India? What is its connections to the Indian traditional classics? Do you have an equivalent of dasa periods in LK? Etc. Regards Santhosh’ On Behalf Of kulbir Saturday, December 05, 2009 12:48 AM To: Subject: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Santhosh ji; Lalkitab says about Jupiter in house no 9. 1. If mercury, Venus are not in 2,5,9,11 and male planets in house no 3 and 5. Jupiter in 9 becomes 3 times benevolent. The native is born in a noble, rich renowned family but is himself inclined towards spiritual quests than material quests. His ancestors leave enough for him to follow his interests. He is very particular about his vows and promises and can go to nay extent to fulfill them. However his yog palan and progress in yogic field is dependent upon planets in the 12th house. 2. When 3rd and 5th house are !vacant, the native succeeds ultimately but with a great toil. Has to struggle against all odds. !! Venus or moon are posited here, fluctuating fiscal health, sometimes extremely rich but at times reduced to penury. 3. When Sun is benefic, the native never losses interest in religion and spirituality so much so, he leaves the world before denouncing religion. 4. When house no 1 is vacant, the native may suffer from some heart ailment, but with increase in age, he progresses in the field of spirituality, gains recognisation and can even attain the state of a brahmjnani. 5. His age is usually more than 75 years. 6. He can intentionally harm anyone, even his curse is blessing in disguise for others. 7. He brings and enjoys comfort for/of father. He is leader of the household, has knowledge of medicine, abstainer, maintains good moral character. 8. knowledge of gold, jewels, spirituality and religion are god gifted and of top grade. 9. When mercury in 4th or 5th house, kingly disposition but with a spiritual bent of mind. In short a master of both. 10. Saturn in house no financial condition depends or rather instrumental in the age span of 33-39. good results on wealth and income in age span of 16-19 but not on progeny. 11. When Jupiter is harmed by aspects etc, the native might denounce his religion and spirituality and become an atheist but owing to considerations other than financial. 12. Mercury, Venus or paapi in house no 5, the native becomes self possessed, self centered, atheist , his son bears the brunt and attains a pathetic state. 13. house no 3 and 5 vacant, life is full of struggle, the native has to struggle against all odds. 14. malefic mercury, rather manda mercury = effect of mars bad - short life, bad luck Regards kulbir , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Senthilji, > > > > Your friend must surely be having guru in 9th :-) > > Anyway it cannot be true. What if such guru is in neecha or in between > malefics or aspected by malefics etc. > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of senthil > nathan > Thursday, December 03, 2009 10:29 PM > > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > > > > > > Girishji > One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one lac doshas in > the chart.Is it true, Thanks > > Senthil > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon <horamag wrote: > > > Girish menon <horamag > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM > > > > > Dear Senthilji > Thank you for posting this interesting case study. > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also > Thanks and regards > Girish > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > senthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > " groups " <ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM > > > > > Dear members > Please go through this horoscope.The native is my brother in law who is > a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets sat(asc lord) > ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first in 12th and state > first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the reasons? 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Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Sorry Manoj ji,i am not sure...Love and regards,gopi. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:>> Dear Gopi Ji,> > //For me the WHOLE LIFE IS MYSTERY.//> > Yes, indeed. But this what makes a good mystery solver too !>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > ________________________________> gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > Fri, December 4, 2009 8:02:23 AM> Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> >  > That's why i also said i am diferent...> -gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, santhosh@ wrote:> >> > Dear gopiji > > You have used the upachaya house concept which we all missed > > Excellent and congrats. > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel > > > > > > "gopalakrishna" gopi_b927@ . > > Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:22:19 > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > > > Dear senthil ji/Kulbir ji, > > my point of view always is different from majority either in astrology > > or in life in general..So i am in minority.I always speak just pure and > > naked truth.When i first went to an astrologer in 1996 for the sake of > > my brother incidentally the astrologer asked me if i already know > > astrology, when my answer was negative he said one thing which i never > > forget in life that ''i will not think like others''. > > It is the same here aswell when majority see it as mystery i dont.For me > > the WHOLE LIFE IS MYSTERY. > > Coming back tothe chart i give below my PERSONAL OPINION BUT YOU PLEASE > > DONT TAKE > > IT PERSONAL.... and be practical and objective. > > > > Whenever a chart has debilitated/ exalted planets in 3,6,10,11 houses the > > native raises in life.My observation is more so when they are > > debilitated. They lift the native to unbelievable hights. > > //what made the native achieve his full positive potential in > > academics?// > > yes it may be a mystery also since YK ven is debilitated in 8th H which > > is conected with mystery apart from L/L and others.The beauty is L/L sat > > is weakest in shadbala but in 3rd in mutual asp with a natural > > benefic.Whenever L/L is asp by benefics that too jup the person is bound > > to succeed is a dictum. > > Mo is the most powerful 6L of competition with 5thL of higher education > > in RK axis which represents foreign as well.7thH is a powerhouse which > > gives power to the person.6L in exch with7th and with mer the 5L of > > higher education and karaka for knowledge.3rdL of effort mars with > > 7Lpower in 6th H of competition! !If you see all 3,6,10,11 houses /lords > > are involved in his success. > > //if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it?// > > i have not gone into it since i first see positives in any given > > chart.As Manoj ji mentioned it is easy to postmortem for > > astrologers( than doctors)..ha, ha,ha > > Last but not least it is the dasas /transits that make it a > > success/failure > > Love and regards, > > gopi > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kulbir" > > kulbirbains@ wrote: > > > > > > Gopi ji; > > > my sincerest apology; may be i was not able to bring forward my point > > in a clear manner. > > > what i wanted to convey? is; there will be countless persons with > > matching birth data as this native. but did all excel in academics like > > him? > > > there must be some factors that differentiate the outcome of destiny > > as promised by the horoscope. > > > Astrology is the study of tendencies; > > > you are absolutely right it is a good case study; > > > what made the native achieve his full positive potential in academics? > > > if there was any negative tendency? how did he overcome it? > > > > > > Regards > > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" > > gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Kulbir ji, > > > > i just expressed my opinion and never said it is NOT apropriate.If > > you > > > > took it that way i cant help. Hope that Senthil ji got it right. > > > > //What is the distinguishing factor?// > > > > Distinguishing part is study/research etc.In my opinion it is a good > > > > case study but not a mystery case study.Opinions differ and we must > > > > respect others opinions as well. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > gopi. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kulbir" > > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Gopi ji, > > > > > > > > > > The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate; > > > > > > > > > > Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope > > > > could have reached any where close to this native's achievement. > > > > > > > > > > What is the distinguishing factor? > > > > > > > > > > That makes this case a mystery case study. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Kulbir > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" > > > > gopi_b927@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Senthil ji, > > > > > > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a > > > > mystery > > > > > > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the > > > > > > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries > > > > during > > > > > > the astro journey which is unending. > > > > > > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said > > about > > > > jup > > > > > > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes > > 2nd > > > > and > > > > > > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i > > > > > > observed)... . > > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > > gopi. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon > > > > > > <horamag@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Senthil ji > > > > > > > I am not sure about that. > > > > > > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart. > > > > > > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession. > > > > > > > I hope we get some input from other members also. > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@ > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji > > > > > > >  One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels > > one > > > > lac > > > > > > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girish menon horamag > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Senthilji > > > > > > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study. > > > > > > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also > > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > > > > Girish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > > > > > > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > >  Please go through this horoscope.The native is  my > > > > brother > > > > > > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga > > > > planets > > > > > > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got > > state > > > > first > > > > > > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are > > the > > > > > > reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th. > > > > > > > DETAILS > > > > > > > DOB04-08-1970 > > > > > > > TOB 20.10PM > > > > > > >  POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Dear Girish Ji I regret for the typo mistake the Year of birth is 1985. best regards Karan , Girish menon <horamag wrote: > > Dear Karan ji > Some confusion regarding the dasha > As per the DOB provided this native is undergoing chandra dasha not rahu dasha > Thanks and regards > Girish > > --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Karan <karan wrote: > > Karan <karan > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:30 PM >  > > > > > Dear Manoj Ji > > > > I second your opinion on Deb Ju and have an live example with a chart wherein with Ju deb in 2nd house and Ra dasha running the person at the age of 24 with 2 years of working has become a Millionaire, he makes money effortlessly and is very different from a normal person and how people live life. > > He made money with the stock market going up and he made money with the stock market going down. > > 4 Apr 1984, 1:20 a.m. Delhi > > This person is very famous and well known amongst the top stock market people in India, TV channels and big private investors who want to park there money through professional managers. this guy does not even have a graduation. > > > > but to your question i can just share a example but not why it is so?? > > > > best regards > > > > Karan > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Neelam Ji, > > > > > > Infact it seems debilitated planets (especially Jupiter) seems to more often give larger material gains than exalted planets (atleast in my observation on deb Jupiter). What is the reason for this? Is there any mention in the classics of this phenomena? > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Fri, December 4, 2009 11:48:58 AM > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > > > > >  > > > Dear All, > > > > > > A bit late for this thread, but some basic points on the MYSTERY Chart. Please ignore if there is any repetition due to my oversight. > > > > > > Debilitated planets giving success in education, career or material gains is no mystery. > > > > > > A debilitated Mars has to be seen in a different light as it goes to queen’s friendly palace and is someone who must obey her. A debilitated Venus is also in friendly territory in Budhha’s house. Saturn neecha in 3 gives the endurance and concentration to work for long hours. And finally deb planets are good in upchay sthans we all know why. > > > > > > Mars-Sun conjunction in 6H is the classic placement for a doctor (as well as a patient if weak), depending upon the lordship and strength (not debilitation) .. When Mars is 10L/3L and Sun is 7L in Cancer both with high shadbal, both LL and 10L aspect 12H of hospitals and 9/11 lord of gains, there’s an exchange of luminaries with dasha sequence of Sun, Moon and Mars at the peak of education and career, the person is likely to be a successful doctor. An afflicted moon with an aspect on lagna is an added factor.  > > > > > > Another very important point is the placement of key planets in Kendra positions. Planet in 10H from any planet becomes karaka for that planet (BJ). Planets for profession, 10L/7L Mars and Sun are closely conjunct in Kendra to LL Saturn and Jup 9/11 lord of income and gains. > > > > > > Manoj ji, if I may add, for education, we are advised to check chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education. > > > > > > What may be interesting to note is what toll these debbies have taken from the native to give these goodies? What about the younger siblings, may be none? Male issues? Maternal uncles? > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Dear Neelam ji,// for education, we are advised to check> chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education.//i find L/12L of Rasi in 11th with mer 11L and karaka for knowledge ,a benefic in lagna and mo in 12th in own for his success abroad as well.Did i miss something?Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > A bit late for this thread, but some basic points on the MYSTERY Chart.> Please ignore if there is any repetition due to my oversight.> > *Debilitated planets giving success in education, career or material gains> is no mystery.*> > A debilitated Mars has to be seen in a different light as it goes to queen's> friendly palace and is someone who must obey her. A debilitated Venus is> also in friendly territory in Budhha's house. Saturn neecha in 3 gives the> endurance and concentration to work for long hours. And finally deb planets> are good in upchay sthans we all know why.> > Mars-Sun conjunction in 6H is the classic placement for a doctor (as well as> a patient if weak), depending upon the lordship and strength (not> debilitation). When Mars is 10L/3L and Sun is 7L in Cancer both with high> shadbal, both LL and 10L aspect 12H of hospitals and 9/11 lord of gains,> there's an exchange of luminaries with dasha sequence of Sun, Moon and Mars> at the peak of education and career, the person is likely to be a successful> doctor. An afflicted moon with an aspect on lagna is an added factor.> > *Another very important point is the placement of key planets in Kendra> positions.* Planet in 10H from any planet becomes karaka for that planet> (BJ). Planets for profession, 10L/7L Mars and Sun are closely conjunct in> Kendra to LL Saturn and Jup 9/11 lord of income and gains.> > Manoj ji, if I may add, for education, we are advised to check> chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education.> > What may be interesting to note is what toll these debbies have taken from> the native to give these goodies? What about the younger siblings, may be> none? Male issues? Maternal uncles?> > Hope this helps> > Regards> Neelam> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Dear Gopiji, Just a small byproduct of your observations. I have observed that a powerful 9th house is important for, amongst other significations, gains from foriegn land. Like big industralist have foriegn collaborations or export import business. 12 th house significations means finding luck or home in foriegn lands but also means loss of sucess in homeland. Thanks & Regards Chiranjiv Mehta+ 91 9324168001--- On Sat, 5/12/09, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Saturday, 5 December, 2009, 7:17 PM Dear Neelam ji,// for education, we are advised to check> chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education.//i find L/12L of Rasi in 11th with mer 11L and karaka for knowledge ,a benefic in lagna and mo in 12th in own for his success abroad as well.Did i miss something?Regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > A bit late for this thread, but some basic points on the MYSTERY Chart.> Please ignore if there is any repetition due to my oversight.> > *Debilitated planets giving success in education, career or material gains> is no mystery.*> > A debilitated Mars has to be seen in a different light as it goes to queen's> friendly palace and is someone who must obey her. A debilitated Venus is> also in friendly territory in Budhha's house. Saturn neecha in 3 gives the> endurance and concentration to work for long hours. And finally deb planets> are good in upchay sthans we all know why.> > Mars-Sun conjunction in 6H is the classic placement for a doctor (as well as> a patient if weak), depending upon the lordship and strength (not> debilitation) . When Mars is 10L/3L and Sun is 7L in Cancer both with high> shadbal, both LL and 10L aspect 12H of hospitals and 9/11 lord of gains,> there's an exchange of luminaries with dasha sequence of Sun, Moon and Mars> at the peak of education and career, the person is likely to be a successful> doctor. An afflicted moon with an aspect on lagna is an added factor.> > *Another very important point is the placement of key planets in Kendra> positions.* Planet in 10H from any planet becomes karaka for that planet> (BJ). Planets for profession, 10L/7L Mars and Sun are closely conjunct in> Kendra to LL Saturn and Jup 9/11 lord of income and gains.> > Manoj ji, if I may add, for education, we are advised to check> chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education.> > What may be interesting to note is what toll these debbies have taken from> the native to give these goodies? What about the younger siblings, may be> none? Male issues? Maternal uncles?> > Hope this helps> > Regards> Neelam> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Not just a benefic in lagna Gopi ji, Venus has nurtured him for 20 long years before finally handing over to Sun for becoming a doctor. In lagna, Venus is supported by natal LL Saturn from Gemini and mahabenfic Jupiter from own 5H. It is also equally important that this Venus is actually the karma and effort of this varga in the lagna, and is hemmed between luminaries. Hence par excellence in education. 2009/12/5 gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Dear Neelam ji,// for education, we are advised to check> chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education.//i find L/12L of Rasi in 11th with mer 11L and karaka for knowledge ,a benefic in lagna and mo in 12th in own for his success abroad as well.Did i miss something? Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: >> Dear All,> > A bit late for this thread, but some basic points on the MYSTERY Chart.> Please ignore if there is any repetition due to my oversight.> > *Debilitated planets giving success in education, career or material gains > is no mystery.*> > A debilitated Mars has to be seen in a different light as it goes to queen's> friendly palace and is someone who must obey her. A debilitated Venus is> also in friendly territory in Budhha's house. Saturn neecha in 3 gives the > endurance and concentration to work for long hours. And finally deb planets> are good in upchay sthans we all know why.> > Mars-Sun conjunction in 6H is the classic placement for a doctor (as well as > a patient if weak), depending upon the lordship and strength (not> debilitation). When Mars is 10L/3L and Sun is 7L in Cancer both with high> shadbal, both LL and 10L aspect 12H of hospitals and 9/11 lord of gains, > there's an exchange of luminaries with dasha sequence of Sun, Moon and Mars> at the peak of education and career, the person is likely to be a successful> doctor. An afflicted moon with an aspect on lagna is an added factor. > > *Another very important point is the placement of key planets in Kendra> positions.* Planet in 10H from any planet becomes karaka for that planet> (BJ). Planets for profession, 10L/7L Mars and Sun are closely conjunct in > Kendra to LL Saturn and Jup 9/11 lord of income and gains.> > Manoj ji, if I may add, for education, we are advised to check> chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in education. > > What may be interesting to note is what toll these debbies have taken from> the native to give these goodies? What about the younger siblings, may be> none? Male issues? Maternal uncles?> > Hope this helps> > Regards> Neelam> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 We all know that the 4th and the 9th houses stand for Education. Venus in this so called " Mysterious Chart " is the Lord of the 4th and the 9th houses in this Chart. Chandra is also placed in the nakshatra of Venus. Therefore whenever any dasha,antardasha of venus or Chandra happens in natives Life, these houses 4 and 9 will be activated. Secondly Venus is placed in nakshatra of Sun who is placed in the 6th house of win in any competetion, challenge or such. The above is a simple explanation for his education degree in Venus period. regards/Bhaskar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 5, 2009 Thanks a lot Neelam ji for the response.May be that's the beauty of YK though debilitated in Rasi in 8th H of surprises and in Lagna in Chaturvimsamsa and also being 3rdL of effort and 10thL of karma in Lagna in D24.Yes Neelam ji i really missed jup in MT in 5th in varga and lumineries as well.....Regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Not just a benefic in lagna Gopi ji, Venus has nurtured him for 20 long> years before finally handing over to Sun for becoming a doctor. In lagna,> Venus is supported by natal LL Saturn from Gemini and mahabenfic Jupiter> from own 5H. It is also equally important that this Venus is actually the> karma and effort of this varga in the lagna, and is hemmed between> luminaries. Hence par excellence in education.> > > > 2009/12/5 gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > >> >> > *Dear Neelam ji,*> > // for education, we are advised to check> > > chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in> > education.//> > *i find L/12L of Rasi in 11th with mer 11L and karaka for knowledge ,a> > benefic in lagna and mo in 12th in own for his success abroad as well.Did i> > miss something?> > Regards,> > gopi.> > *> > , neelam gupta> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > A bit late for this thread, but some basic points on the MYSTERY Chart.> > > Please ignore if there is any repetition due to my oversight.> > >> > > *Debilitated planets giving success in education, career or material> > gains> > > is no mystery.*> > >> > > A debilitated Mars has to be seen in a different light as it goes to> > queen's> > > friendly palace and is someone who must obey her. A debilitated Venus is> > > also in friendly territory in Budhha's house. Saturn neecha in 3 gives> > the> > > endurance and concentration to work for long hours. And finally deb> > planets> > > are good in upchay sthans we all know why.> > >> > > Mars-Sun conjunction in 6H is the classic placement for a doctor (as well> > as> > > a patient if weak), depending upon the lordship and strength (not> > > debilitation). When Mars is 10L/3L and Sun is 7L in Cancer both with high> > > shadbal, both LL and 10L aspect 12H of hospitals and 9/11 lord of gains,> > > there's an exchange of luminaries with dasha sequence of Sun, Moon and> > Mars> > > at the peak of education and career, the person is likely to be a> > successful> > > doctor. An afflicted moon with an aspect on lagna is an added factor.> > >> > > *Another very important point is the placement of key planets in Kendra> > > positions.* Planet in 10H from any planet becomes karaka for that planet> > > (BJ). Planets for profession, 10L/7L Mars and Sun are closely conjunct in> > > Kendra to LL Saturn and Jup 9/11 lord of income and gains.> > >> > > Manoj ji, if I may add, for education, we are advised to check> > > chaturvimshamsha which will reveal why this person did so well in> > education.> > >> > > What may be interesting to note is what toll these debbies have taken> > from> > > the native to give these goodies? What about the younger siblings, may be> > > none? Male issues? Maternal uncles?> > >> > > Hope this helps> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Dear Neelam Ji, //Just some observations! // Very insightful ones, thank you. Regards, -Manoj neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 11:50:12 PMRe: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Dear Manoj ji,One man’s poison is other man’s pudding! It all depends on how one deals with what life has to offer. Aspect of Jupiter on Lagna and LL from 9H is a sure blessing in this sense and an astrologer can see that one would’ve happily traversed on the journey of life despite difficult placements. Complicated situations are moulded to one’s advantage for soul’s progress.Mercury and moon with Ketu is an ominous combination in 7H especially when Moon and Mercury are 6/8 lords, but 18 hrs at work results in getting verbose with patients rather than spouse, being in 2H from 6H and saves the marriage. The energy loop caused by the exchange of luminaries, pushes the positive 6H affairs rather than terminating the 7H affairs.Even Rahu alone in aquarius, is rather like a blessing of LL and would amplify the good affects. Venus, though in debilitation is in kartri. It may give some health problem like diabetes in Rahu’s period, but a benefic in 8H of mangalya (2nd form 7H) would promote marital felicity. Wife would be good looking with a sweet voice and good aesthetic sense.A vargottam moon also plants his mind firmly into 7H affairs. It may not be a wonderful marriage, but surely convenient and free of any major problem.Just some observations! :-)RegardsNeelam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Thanks for this chart Karan Ji. Regards, -Manoj Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Dear Senthil In my opinion, the key planet in your brother in law's chart is Venus. Yes, by traditional view, Venus is indeed neecha. But when we see the chart in the light of Krishnamurty Process, all things become clear. Venus itself is 4 th and 9th lord, no planet in those houses. So as owner, Venus gets the strength. Venus in star of Sun in 6th . Sun conjuction Mars, lord of 3,10. Sun is also in star of Mercury in 6th, lord of 5th and 8th.Merc is also cuspal star lord of 2 and 10. So venus signifies 2,3,6,10 and also 5 & 8 Let us see the sub position of venus, the ultimate decider of strength as per KP. Venus is in sub of Jup, lord of 2,11 and no planet in star of Jup. Also, there are no planet in 9 & 11. jup in star of Mars in 6th, lord of 10. So you see, sub position strongly signifies 2-6-10-11 houses, the houses of material prosperity and gain. So venus is good. Venus is cuspals sublord of 1,2,5,7,8,10. So, with respect to all thoses bhavas, the native will experience the 2,6,10,11 effect…only gain. See moon in Venus star and Venus sub also becomes good.Ketu signifies moon being in conj with moon and in house of moon. So ketu is also good. In 1988 May, he was running Venus dasa and Ketu antar dasa. Both are good. In 1994, he was running Sun dasa and Ketu antardasa. Sun in star and sub of mercury. Mercury is in 6th and 10th cusp star lord. Mercury is again in ketu sub. So sun is good for getting service and he got it. Why he is so good in educational career? See , boyh 4th and 9th lord is venus. 4th cusp star lord is moon in star and sub of venus. 4th cusp sub lord is again Ketu representing moon. But regarding his married life, I am in apprehension. 7th star and sub both are venus. Though 2,11 signification is good and got him married, simultaneously 1,6,10,8 signification is not good for family life specially so when so many (5) planets being in 6th house and Venus hemmed between Ur and Pluto. Regards Suprakash , senthil nathan <jpshelters wrote: > > Dear members > Please go through this horoscope.The native is my brother in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th. > DETAILS > DOB04-08-1970 > TOB 20.10PM > POB-NEYVELI(CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD > > Senthil > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 6, 2009 Dear Suprakash ji, Very Good. I have already explained this in a very simple manner for the other members to understand here,in a previous post, since they are not from the KP fold. Venus by virtue of being Lord of 4th and 9th and being placed in a star representing the 6th is enough to get some attainments in educations as you rightly pointed out. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Subha " <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > Dear Senthil > > In my opinion, the key planet in your brother in law's chart is Venus. Yes, by traditional view, Venus is indeed neecha. But when we see the chart in the light of Krishnamurty Process, all things become clear. > > Venus itself is 4 th and 9th lord, no planet in those houses. So as owner, Venus gets the strength. > Venus in star of Sun in 6th . Sun conjuction Mars, lord of 3,10. Sun is also in star of Mercury in 6th, lord of 5th and 8th.Merc is also cuspal star lord of 2 and 10. So venus signifies 2,3,6,10 and also 5 & 8 > > Let us see the sub position of venus, the ultimate decider of strength as per KP. > Venus is in sub of Jup, lord of 2,11 and no planet in star of Jup. Also, there are no planet in 9 & 11. jup in star of Mars in 6th, lord of 10. So you see, sub position strongly signifies 2-6-10-11 houses, the houses of material prosperity and gain. > > So venus is good. Venus is cuspals sublord of 1,2,5,7,8,10. So, with respect to all thoses bhavas, the native will experience the 2,6,10,11 effect…only gain. > > See moon in Venus star and Venus sub also becomes good.Ketu signifies moon being in conj with moon and in house of moon. So ketu is also good. > > > In 1988 May, he was running Venus dasa and Ketu antar dasa. Both are good. > > In 1994, he was running Sun dasa and Ketu antardasa. Sun in star and sub of mercury. Mercury is in 6th and 10th cusp star lord. Mercury is again in ketu sub. So sun is good for getting service and he got it. > > Why he is so good in educational career? > See , boyh 4th and 9th lord is venus. > 4th cusp star lord is moon in star and sub of venus. > 4th cusp sub lord is again Ketu representing moon. > > But regarding his married life, I am in apprehension. 7th star and sub both are venus. Though 2,11 signification is good and got him married, simultaneously 1,6,10,8 signification is not good for family life specially so when so many (5) planets being in 6th house and Venus hemmed between Ur and Pluto. > > > Regards > > Suprakash > > > , senthil nathan <jpshelters@> wrote: > > > > Dear members > > Please go through this horoscope.The native is my brother in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th. > > DETAILS > > DOB04-08-1970 > > TOB 20.10PM > > POB-NEYVELI(CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji This is an ideal example what sublord can do. Venus is powerful no doubt, but venus got his strength only due to strong sub position by Jup, who is in its own star and signifying 2,6,10,11... Regards Suprakash - Bhaskar Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 PM Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Dear Suprakash ji,Very Good.I have already explained this in a very simple manner for the other members to understand here,in a previous post, since they are not from the KP fold. Venus by virtue of being Lord of 4th and 9th and being placed in a star representing the 6th is enough to get some attainments in educations as you rightly pointed out.best wishes,Bhaskar. , "Subha" <suprakash.ghosh wrote:>> Dear Senthil> > In my opinion, the key planet in your brother in law's chart is Venus. Yes, by traditional view, Venus is indeed neecha. But when we see the chart in the light of Krishnamurty Process, all things become clear.> > Venus itself is 4 th and 9th lord, no planet in those houses. So as owner, Venus gets the strength. > Venus in star of Sun in 6th . Sun conjuction Mars, lord of 3,10. Sun is also in star of Mercury in 6th, lord of 5th and 8th.Merc is also cuspal star lord of 2 and 10. So venus signifies 2,3,6,10 and also 5 & 8> > Let us see the sub position of venus, the ultimate decider of strength as per KP.> Venus is in sub of Jup, lord of 2,11 and no planet in star of Jup. Also, there are no planet in 9 & 11. jup in star of Mars in 6th, lord of 10. So you see, sub position strongly signifies 2-6-10-11 houses, the houses of material prosperity and gain.> > So venus is good. Venus is cuspals sublord of 1,2,5,7,8,10. So, with respect to all thoses bhavas, the native will experience the 2,6,10,11 effect…only gain.> > See moon in Venus star and Venus sub also becomes good.Ketu signifies moon being in conj with moon and in house of moon. So ketu is also good.> > > In 1988 May, he was running Venus dasa and Ketu antar dasa. Both are good.> > In 1994, he was running Sun dasa and Ketu antardasa. Sun in star and sub of mercury. Mercury is in 6th and 10th cusp star lord. Mercury is again in ketu sub. So sun is good for getting service and he got it.> > Why he is so good in educational career?> See , boyh 4th and 9th lord is venus.> 4th cusp star lord is moon in star and sub of venus.> 4th cusp sub lord is again Ketu representing moon.> > But regarding his married life, I am in apprehension. 7th star and sub both are venus. Though 2,11 signification is good and got him married, simultaneously 1,6,10,8 signification is not good for family life specially so when so many (5) planets being in 6th house and Venus hemmed between Ur and Pluto.> > > Regards> > Suprakash> > > > > > > > > > , senthil nathan <jpshelters@> wrote:> >> > Dear members> > Please go through this horoscope.The native is my brother in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th.> > DETAILS> > DOB04-08-1970> > TOB 20.10PM> > POB-NEYVELI(CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Dear Suprakash ji, Of course that me and you know about, but I do not speak about sublords here normally because the gathering here is basically into Traditional astrology and do not wish to ruffle feathers or try to influence anyone with new concepts without being asked to. So normally I talk upto only the Nakshatra levels in the Group. We have to respect the learning of the majority. Your point of SubLord was the first thing I noticed when I erected that chart, and that was my basis of picking this antar as a one which could give educational attainments, subsequently after which I realised that indeed the native had done his post grduation in this period. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Suprakash Ghosh " <suprakash.ghosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > This is an ideal example what sublord can do. Venus is powerful no doubt, but venus got his strength only due to strong sub position by Jup, who is in its own star and signifying 2,6,10,11... > > Regards > > Suprakash > > - > Bhaskar > > Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:56 PM > Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > > > > Dear Suprakash ji, > > Very Good. > > I have already explained this in a very simple manner for the other members to understand here,in a previous post, since they are not from the KP fold. > > Venus by virtue of being Lord of 4th and 9th and being placed in a star representing the 6th is enough to get some attainments in educations as you rightly pointed out. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > , " Subha " suprakash.ghosh@ wrote: > > > > Dear Senthil > > > > In my opinion, the key planet in your brother in law's chart is Venus. Yes, by traditional view, Venus is indeed neecha. But when we see the chart in the light of Krishnamurty Process, all things become clear. > > > > Venus itself is 4 th and 9th lord, no planet in those houses. So as owner, Venus gets the strength. > > Venus in star of Sun in 6th . Sun conjuction Mars, lord of 3,10. Sun is also in star of Mercury in 6th, lord of 5th and 8th.Merc is also cuspal star lord of 2 and 10. So venus signifies 2,3,6,10 and also 5 & 8 > > > > Let us see the sub position of venus, the ultimate decider of strength as per KP. > > Venus is in sub of Jup, lord of 2,11 and no planet in star of Jup. Also, there are no planet in 9 & 11. jup in star of Mars in 6th, lord of 10. So you see, sub position strongly signifies 2-6-10-11 houses, the houses of material prosperity and gain. > > > > So venus is good. Venus is cuspals sublord of 1,2,5,7,8,10. So, with respect to all thoses bhavas, the native will experience the 2,6,10,11 effect.only gain. > > > > See moon in Venus star and Venus sub also becomes good.Ketu signifies moon being in conj with moon and in house of moon. So ketu is also good. > > > > > > In 1988 May, he was running Venus dasa and Ketu antar dasa. Both are good. > > > > In 1994, he was running Sun dasa and Ketu antardasa. Sun in star and sub of mercury. Mercury is in 6th and 10th cusp star lord. Mercury is again in ketu sub. So sun is good for getting service and he got it. > > > > Why he is so good in educational career? > > See , boyh 4th and 9th lord is venus. > > 4th cusp star lord is moon in star and sub of venus. > > 4th cusp sub lord is again Ketu representing moon. > > > > But regarding his married life, I am in apprehension. 7th star and sub both are venus. Though 2,11 signification is good and got him married, simultaneously 1,6,10,8 signification is not good for family life specially so when so many (5) planets being in 6th house and Venus hemmed between Ur and Pluto. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Suprakash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , senthil nathan <jpshelters@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members > > > Please go through this horoscope.The native is my brother in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th),10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th. > > > DETAILS > > > DOB04-08-1970 > > > TOB 20.10PM > > > POB-NEYVELI(CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD > > > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Dear friend, Out of three debilitated planets Mars and Venus gets their debilition cancelled to some extent by strong kendra placement of their rasilords. But Saturn as the lord of Navamsa lagna does not gets that undue benefit ! How about the progeny and married life of the native as Saturn being the key ruler of married life and children i.e. navamsalagna lord debilitated in Rasi Chart in Rasi Sandhi ! 6th lord Moon with 8th lord Mercury may indicate something wrong with financial management skills /loans/investments etc. and need to be taken care of ! Regards, Mutyunjay Tripathy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 7, 2009 Dear members, In this chart the three planets Venus , Mars, and Saturn are in debilitated state. They continue to be debilitated until 24th Aug that year, that is for nearly three weeks. Therefore these debilitated planets can not make all people born during this period either miserable or getting blessed in education and career. I analysed the horoscope using theory of cuspal interlinks and found that the sublord and Subsub lord of fourth house Venus has his star lord Sun as Subsublord of Lagna which indicates that 4th house fully supports the first. This shows that this native is blessed with high level of intelligence and education. Further 9th house has Moon as subsublord and Venus is it starlord who is subsub lord of 4th house. This shows that 9th house supports 4th fully. No wonder that the native of this horoscope exhibited such brilliance. It is quite likely that his person has good skill in some fine arts like music.Not just ear for music but ability to sing.Regards,UdupaOn Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Girish menon <horamag wrote: Dear Deepak jiI don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to me as a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigation's, injuriesor other -ve eventsI agree with youThanks and regardsGirish--- On Fri, 12/4/09, deepak sharma <deepak_rptech wrote: deepak sharma <deepak_rptechRe: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:58 AM Dear Senthil Ji,I too agree with the " mystery " .To my further surprise, you mentioned all +ve events and not even a single -ve significant event.I don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigations, injuriesor other -ve events Best Regards,Deepak Sharmasenthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> To: ancient_indian_ astrologyFri, December 4, 2009 12:21:20 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Yes Kulbirji .4th lord from lagna & moon ven & mars are deb.should not have passed from school level,but he is post graduate with honours. 6th & 7th lord exchanged -leading a happy life..Its a real mystery. Senthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote: kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, 4 December, 2009, 11:30 AM Gopi ji, The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate; Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope could have reached any where close to this native's achievement. What is the distinguishing factor? That makes this case a mystery case study. Regards Kulbir ancient_indian_ astrology, " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote: > > Dear Senthil ji, > I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a mystery > since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the > known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries during > the astro journey which is unending. > Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about jup > in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd and > kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i > observed)... . > Love and regards, > gopi. > ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon > <horamag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Senthil ji > > I am not sure about that. > > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart. > > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession. > > I hope we get some input from other members also. > > Thanks and regards > > Girish > > > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote: > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters@ > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Girishji > >  One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one lac > doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks > > > > Senthil > > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote: > > > > Girish menon horamag > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Senthilji > > Thank you for posting this interesting case study. > > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also > > Thanks and regards > > Girish > > > > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE > > " groups " <ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members > >  Please go through this horoscope.The native is  my brother > in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets > sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th) ,10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first > in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the > reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th.. > > DETAILS > > DOB04-08-1970 > > TOB 20.10PM > >  POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD > > > > Senthil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. -- Please visit my website http://www.astrocare.in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Dear Udupa Do you consider linkage of 4th with 9th is good for 9th house significations? I have a doubt as 4th is the 8th of 9th. Regards Suprakash - Guru Monday, December 07, 2009 5:43 PM Re: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Dear members, In this chart the three planets Venus , Mars, and Saturn are in debilitated state. They continue to be debilitated until 24th Aug that year, that is for nearly three weeks. Therefore these debilitated planets can not make all people born during this period either miserable or getting blessed in education and career. I analysed the horoscope using theory of cuspal interlinks and found that the sublord and Subsub lord of fourth house Venus has his star lord Sun as Subsublord of Lagna which indicates that 4th house fully supports the first. This shows that this native is blessed with high level of intelligence and education. Further 9th house has Moon as subsublord and Venus is it starlord who is subsub lord of 4th house. This shows that 9th house supports 4th fully. No wonder that the native of this horoscope exhibited such brilliance. It is quite likely that his person has good skill in some fine arts like music.Not just ear for music but ability to sing. Regards, Udupa On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: Dear Deepak ji I don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigation's, injuriesor other -ve eventsI agree with youThanks and regardsGirish--- On Fri, 12/4/09, deepak sharma <deepak_rptech > wrote: deepak sharma <deepak_rptech >Re: Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 1:58 AM Dear Senthil Ji,I too agree with the "mystery".To my further surprise, you mentioned all +ve events and not even a single -ve significant event.I don't hesitate to mention here that if this birth detail was given to meas a blind chart, I would've pointed out marital discords, litigations, injuriesor other -ve eventsBest Regards,Deepak Sharma senthil nathan <jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>ancient_indian_ astrologyFri, December 4, 2009 12:21:20 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPE Yes Kulbirji .4th lord from lagna & moon ven & mars are deb.should not have passed from school level,but he is post graduate with honours. 6th & 7th lord exchanged -leading a happy life..Its a real mystery.Senthil --- On Fri, 4/12/09, kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com> wrote: kulbir <kulbirbains@ in.com>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: MYSTERY HOROSCOPEancient_indian_ astrologyFriday, 4 December, 2009, 11:30 AM Gopi ji,The term Mystery horoscope is highly appropriate;Not even 0.1% of the natives born with exactly matching horoscope could have reached any where close to this native's achievement.What is the distinguishing factor?That makes this case a mystery case study.RegardsKulbirancient_indian_ astrology, "gopalakrishna" <gopi_b927@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Senthil ji,> I dont know what you mean by mystery when astrology itself is a mystery> since we are trying to know/understand the unknown through the> known(some extent) subject.We come across so many sub mysteries during> the astro journey which is unending.> Reg jup in9th, as far as i know the one you mentioned is said about jup> in lagna only irrespective of any lagna.Then jup in 10th comes 2nd and> kona placement of jup is good for materialistic life.(is what i> observed)... .> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon> <horamag@> wrote:> >> > Dear Senthil ji> > I am not sure about that.> > Now there are 2 things to be studied in his chart.> > His academic brilliance and choosing MBBS as profession.> > I hope we get some input from other members also.> > Thanks and regards> > Girish> >> >> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters@ wrote:> >> > senthil nathan jpshelters@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 8:59 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Girishji> >  One of my friend astrologer told me that 9th guru cancels one lac> doshas in the chart.Is it true, Thanks> >> > Senthil> >> >> > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Girish menon horamag > wrote:> >> > Girish menon horamag >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, 3 December, 2009, 3:54 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Senthilji> > Thank you for posting this interesting case study.> > Mars and venus has neecha banga raja yoga also> > Thanks and regards> > Girish> >> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >> > senthil nathan jpshelters (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] MYSTERY HOROSCOPE> > "groups" <ancient_indian_ astrology>> > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:04 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear members> >  Please go through this horoscope.The native is  my brother> in law who is a Doctor in UK.3 planets are neecha.Yoga karaga planets> sat(asc lord) ven(4th & 9th) ,10th lord mars are neecha.He got state first> in 12th and state first in engg entrance.He choose MBBS.What are the> reasons? Is it because JUP in 9th..> > DETAILS> > DOB04-08-1970> > TOB 20.10PM> >  POB-NEYVELI( CUDDALORE DT) TAMILNAD> >> > Senthil> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage.> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. -- Please visit my website http://www.astrocare.in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 8, 2009 Dear Suprakash, Your point that 4th is 8th to 9th is well taken. But these relative significations do not overpower or cancel the natural significations of bhavas. 4th and 9th are harmonious or co-operating houses as far as education is concerned. Hence it is good for education. However if consider 4th as sukhastana and 9th as dharma then 9th may interfere with your sukha 4th being 8th from 9th. Whatever be the numerically relative signification of a house from another house, its natural signification will always work.Regards,Udupa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
