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September 6, 2006

Dear Lajimi ji, First i want to clear that i am not gainst P.M.Sanmugam perosnaly, i am aginst only rules: Asc. SL conection with Moon starlord only. and i am prove many times with maths that this rules is totaly falcy.and I REQUEST YOU TO CHECK AS I GIVEN MATHS YOUR SELF YOU FOUND I AM VERY CORRECT..AND THEN REPLY ABOUT YOU EXPERIANCE. Regarding other rules of Sanmugan's i salute him about "Aspect of Outerplanet and inner planet " and i many times write in grouop and i personaly use regularly in my daily use. Regarding Astrosceret part 2, you have mantion rules on SUN-VEN-JUP is writen by Late Sri Kudanthai Nathan-Srilanka not by snmugam IF THERE IS NO PRINT MISTKE IN BOOK. Now as per Rules planet in star or sub in SUN-VEN-JUP will be candidate for 9th sublord. Look at todays position: --------- DATE WEDNESDAY 6 9 2006 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 4 H. 29 M. 47 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 5 19 25 14 Sun Ven Rah : ends at 22:35)MOON 10 24 18 11 Sat Mar Rah : ends at 08:24)MOON 1 11 1 46 37 Sat Mar Mer : MARS 6 4 44 21 Mer Sun Sat : ends at 19:20)MERC 5 23 52 0 Sun Ven Sat : ends at 07:14)JUP. 7 20 17 30 Ven Jup Jup : NO END VEN. 5 5 49 13 Sun Ket Rah : NO

END SAT. 4 24 41 44 Moo Mer Rah : NO END RAHU -R 12 2 0 9 Jup Jup Rah : NO end KETU -R 6 2 0 9 Mer Sun Jup : NO end URAN -R 11 18 51 24 Sat Rah Moo : NO end NEPT -R 10 23 53 31 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Mar-Jup 11:18)(Mar-Sat 14:40)(Mar-Mer 17:41)(Mar-Ket 18:56) (Mar-Ven 22:30)(Mar-Sun 23:34)(Mar-Moo 25:21)(Rah-Rah 28:34) --------- SUN- IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK MOON: MOON CHANGE SUB IN SHOR DURATION SO HE COME IN SUB OF VEN-JUP-SUN-RAHU-KETU-( AROUND 5:30 pm SUN ASPECT MOON.SO AFTER 5:30 ALL DAY MOON - OK) MAR:IN THE STAR OF SUN- OK MER: IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK JUP-

IN THE STAR AND SUB OG JUP. - OK VEN: IN THE STAR OF KETU AGENT OF SUN. AND SUB OF rah AGENT OF jup.-OK SAT: IN THE SUB OF RAH AGENT OF JUP.-OK RAH:IN THE STAR OF JUP.-OK KET: IN THE STAR OF SUN. - OK That means all 9 planet be a 9th sub then how to select one of them? I request all memebrs to check agian and agian and look am i right? I have check this rules when i read book but i found falcy rule and t i dont want to discuss this but when you specily ask my opinion on this rules i have to write what i relay think on this rules.this is the reson i never suggest any one astrosecret part 2 & 3. i suggest only part one. Lajimi ji many time i write in group and also talk on phone with many members that never accept any thing without checking our self even it was writen by any one( i repit any one).and dont read book with deep impression of

authore, also never read astrology book like story book.if you wnat to understand any method properly and right way.this is my personal thinking and i dont mind if one can disagree with me. with best regards Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: Dear Kanak, You seem to dismiss the late Shanmugham's rule out of

hand... May I draw your attention to the chapter on Advanced Stellar Astrology in his book(part II)... He says " I have observed that in the Star or Sub of the IXth sublord,Sun or Jup or Venus has been found transitting at the TOB... For the time taken by you,Kanak,as the correct time Venus some distance away from being exactly on the IXth cusp.... And...this rule,also of the late Shri

M.P.Shanmugham has been proved to be correct,in the example quoted by you... The late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham has given many rules..it does not seem to be fair to apply only one of the rules,and if it fails,condemn the theory in totality... Kindly think about it carefully, Kanak,Sun,Jupiter and Venus are Atmakaraka,Putrakaraka and Kamakaraka respectively... Well,pl.let me have your opinion... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vijay ji, I dont belive in Sanmugam's Rule. many time in this group i prove by maths that this rules is totaly falcy. bellow is my clculation as per K.Baskarn's Book.I WANT TO CLEAR THAT TIME BY ME AND RAICHURJI ARE MOSTLY SAME BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPN EVERY TIME THAT IF WE CHECK WITH SANMUGAM'S RULES AND WITH HELP OF RP BITHER COME SAME. If we check time 03.20 Asc. SL is MOON and Birth MOON star lord is MAR.not match. 03-09-2006 13:52:15 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g. 9,2,1997 ? 03,09,2006 pLACE: l.g.hOSPITAL-aHMEDABAD 23 n 00 ,, 72 e 36WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N ? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 13,52,15 DAY LORD IS SUN. ASC= 237 3 40 MARS MERC JUP VEN MOON/CHANDRA 256

14 7 JUP VEN MOON MOONRAHU 332 8 35 JUP JUP RAHU SATKETU 152 8 35 MERC SUN JUP VEN ANOTHER TIME Y/N ? MOON TRANSIT ON 18/08/1978 ALLHABAD. As under: From 02.27.05 MAR start start.02.27.05 to 03.41.25 MAR satar and MAR sub .Our time is suring this SUB so we check SUB-PSUB for this SUB. 02.27.05 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MAR03.41.25 TO 02.31.25 - MAR-MAR-RAH02.31.25 TO 02.52.28 - MAR-MAR-JUP02.52.28 TO 03.04.15 - MAR-MAR-SAT03.04.15 TO 03.14.47 - MAR-MAR-MER03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KET03.19.17 TO 03.31.59 - MAR-MAR-VEN03.31.59 TO 03.35.14 -

MAR-MAR-SUN03.35.14 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MOO I allwyas prefer to use rules given in K.Baskaran's rules: RP Asc. = Birth MOON andRP Moon = Birth Asc. we have in RP Asc. MARS MERC JUP VEN ( MAR-VEN andf RAH are in Conj.) MAR is as Starlord of birth MOON.agian MER sub(Agent of VEN)sao we have two more RPMER and JUP.But KETU aspected by JUP and MAR and both are in our RP. so we give more wight to nodeand select sub-sub as KET.03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KETAsc for this time is as under:For 03.14.47 : 02.29.24.07 - MER-JUP-SUN-VEN For 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. In RP Moon we have JUP VEN MOON MOON so if we look at time 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. all are same as RP Moon. and i suggest to take this time is as right birth time. All caculation done on KPAstro2.5 with KPNA. and RP calculted in Raichur's software. RegardsKanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: As per criterion of ASC sub lord should be same as Moon,star the correcttime will be 3,20 :asc 90,33,21 i,e Cancer or Karka LagnaVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear Mr. Rao, Raichur, Kanak and other learned scholars, Please help me to fix the Lagna of the following native, whose TOB is not accurately known. Female 18-08-1978 0300 - 0330 Hrs

IST Allahabad (UP) 81E51, 25N27 Star : Dhanshta-I (Capricorn Rasi) Within the span of 0300 to 0330 Hrs IST, the Lagna transits from Gemini to Cancer. It would be obligatory, if the Lagna could be fixed to Sub level. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<

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September 6, 2006

If the sub-lord of the Ascendant has to be the star-lord of the Moon to prove that the time of birth is correct, then the Ascendant sub-lord of all the natives born within about 24 hours must be the same. Because Moon remains in a star for about 24 hours. Is this possible? Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia

<kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Lajimi ji, First i want to clear that i am not gainst P.M.Sanmugam perosnaly, i am aginst only rules: Asc. SL conection with Moon starlord only. and i am prove many times with maths that this rules is totaly falcy.and I REQUEST YOU TO CHECK AS I GIVEN MATHS YOUR SELF YOU FOUND I AM VERY CORRECT..AND THEN REPLY ABOUT YOU EXPERIANCE. Regarding other rules of Sanmugan's i salute him about

"Aspect of Outerplanet and inner planet " and i many times write in grouop and i personaly use regularly in my daily use. Regarding Astrosceret part 2, you have mantion rules on SUN-VEN-JUP is writen by Late Sri Kudanthai Nathan-Srilanka not by snmugam IF THERE IS NO PRINT MISTKE IN BOOK. Now as per Rules planet in star or sub in SUN-VEN-JUP will be candidate for 9th sublord. Look at todays position: --------- DATE WEDNESDAY 6 9 2006 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 4 H. 29 M. 47 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 5 19 25 14 Sun Ven Rah : ends at

22:35)MOON 10 24 18 11 Sat Mar Rah : ends at 08:24)MOON 1 11 1 46 37 Sat Mar Mer : MARS 6 4 44 21 Mer Sun Sat : ends at 19:20)MERC 5 23 52 0 Sun Ven Sat : ends at 07:14)JUP. 7 20 17 30 Ven Jup Jup : NO END VEN. 5 5 49 13 Sun Ket Rah : NO END SAT. 4 24 41 44 Moo Mer Rah : NO END RAHU -R 12 2 0 9 Jup Jup Rah : NO end KETU -R 6 2 0 9 Mer Sun Jup : NO end URAN -R 11 18 51 24 Sat Rah Moo : NO end NEPT -R 10 23 53 31 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Mar-Jup 11:18)(Mar-Sat

14:40)(Mar-Mer 17:41)(Mar-Ket 18:56) (Mar-Ven 22:30)(Mar-Sun 23:34)(Mar-Moo 25:21)(Rah-Rah 28:34) --------- SUN- IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK MOON: MOON CHANGE SUB IN SHOR DURATION SO HE COME IN SUB OF VEN-JUP-SUN-RAHU-KETU-( AROUND 5:30 pm SUN ASPECT MOON.SO AFTER 5:30 ALL DAY MOON - OK) MAR:IN THE STAR OF SUN- OK MER: IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK JUP- IN THE STAR AND SUB OG JUP. - OK VEN: IN THE STAR OF KETU AGENT OF SUN. AND SUB OF rah AGENT OF jup.-OK SAT: IN THE SUB OF RAH AGENT OF JUP.-OK RAH:IN THE STAR OF JUP.-OK KET: IN THE STAR OF SUN. - OK That means all 9 planet be a 9th sub then how to select one of them? I request all memebrs to check agian and agian

and look am i right? I have check this rules when i read book but i found falcy rule and t i dont want to discuss this but when you specily ask my opinion on this rules i have to write what i relay think on this rules.this is the reson i never suggest any one astrosecret part 2 & 3. i suggest only part one. Lajimi ji many time i write in group and also talk on phone with many members that never accept any thing without checking our self even it was writen by any one( i repit any one).and dont read book with deep impression of authore, also never read astrology book like story book.if you wnat to understand any method properly and right way.this is my personal thinking and i dont mind if one can disagree with me. with best regards Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, You seem to dismiss the late Shanmugham's rule out of hand... May I draw your attention to the chapter on Advanced Stellar Astrology in his book(part II)... He says " I have observed that in the Star or Sub of the IXth sublord,Sun or Jup or Venus has been found transitting at the TOB... For the time taken by you,Kanak,as the

correct time Venus some distance away from being exactly on the IXth cusp.... And...this rule,also of the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham has been proved to be correct,in the example quoted by you... The late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham has given many rules..it does not seem to be fair to apply only one of the rules,and if it fails,condemn the theory in totality... Kindly think about it carefully, Kanak,Sun,Jupiter and Venus are Atmakaraka,Putrakaraka and Kamakaraka respectively... Well,pl.let me have your opinion... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vijay ji, I dont belive in Sanmugam's Rule. many time in this group i prove by maths that this rules is totaly falcy. bellow is my clculation as per K.Baskarn's Book.I WANT TO CLEAR

THAT TIME BY ME AND RAICHURJI ARE MOSTLY SAME BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPN EVERY TIME THAT IF WE CHECK WITH SANMUGAM'S RULES AND WITH HELP OF RP BITHER COME SAME. If we check time 03.20 Asc. SL is MOON and Birth MOON star lord is MAR.not match. 03-09-2006 13:52:15 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g. 9,2,1997 ? 03,09,2006 pLACE: l.g.hOSPITAL-aHMEDABAD 23 n 00 ,, 72 e 36WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N ? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 13,52,15 DAY LORD

IS SUN. ASC= 237 3 40 MARS MERC JUP VEN MOON/CHANDRA 256 14 7 JUP VEN MOON MOONRAHU 332 8 35 JUP JUP RAHU SATKETU 152 8 35 MERC SUN JUP VEN ANOTHER TIME Y/N ? MOON TRANSIT ON 18/08/1978 ALLHABAD. As under: From 02.27.05 MAR start start.02.27.05 to 03.41.25 MAR satar and MAR sub .Our time is suring this SUB so we check SUB-PSUB

for this SUB. 02.27.05 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MAR03.41.25 TO 02.31.25 - MAR-MAR-RAH02.31.25 TO 02.52.28 - MAR-MAR-JUP02.52.28 TO 03.04.15 - MAR-MAR-SAT03.04.15 TO 03.14.47 - MAR-MAR-MER03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KET03.19.17 TO 03.31.59 - MAR-MAR-VEN03.31.59 TO 03.35.14 - MAR-MAR-SUN03.35.14 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MOO I allwyas prefer to use rules given in K.Baskaran's rules: RP Asc. = Birth MOON andRP Moon = Birth Asc. we have in RP Asc. MARS MERC JUP VEN ( MAR-VEN andf RAH are in Conj.) MAR is as Starlord of birth MOON.agian MER sub(Agent of VEN)sao we have two more RPMER and JUP.But KETU aspected by JUP and MAR and both are in our RP. so we give more wight to nodeand select sub-sub as KET.03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KETAsc for this time is as under:For 03.14.47 : 02.29.24.07 - MER-JUP-SUN-VEN For 03.19.17 :

03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. In RP Moon we have JUP VEN MOON MOON so if we look at time 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. all are same as RP Moon. and i suggest to take this time is as right birth time. All caculation done on KPAstro2.5 with KPNA. and RP calculted in Raichur's software. RegardsKanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: As per criterion of ASC sub lord should be same as Moon,star the correcttime will be 3,20 :asc 90,33,21 i,e Cancer or Karka LagnaVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear Mr. Rao, Raichur, Kanak and other learned scholars, Please help me to fix the Lagna of the following native, whose TOB is not accurately known. Female 18-08-1978 0300 - 0330 Hrs IST Allahabad (UP) 81E51, 25N27 Star : Dhanshta-I (Capricorn Rasi) Within the span of 0300 to 0330 Hrs IST, the Lagna transits from Gemini to Cancer. It would be obligatory, if the Lagna could be fixed to Sub level. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers

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September 7, 2006

DEAR Hasmukhrai This is one rule, of the many for Birth Rectification, where TOB is to be corrected. The FINAL ANALYSIS IS THE CHECK ON THE INCIDENTS IN LIFE, OR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN WHOSE TOB IS KNOWN TO BE CORRECT. The correction by this method is valid only within a span of about 10-15 minutes. But, where the time is definite, you will find the SUB LORD of ASC is cannected to the starlord of the moon, directly, or indirectly. check and let us have the results of your study. good luckHasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik wrote: If the sub-lord of the Ascendant has to be the star-lord of the Moon to prove that the time of birth is correct, then the Ascendant sub-lord of all the natives born within about 24 hours must be the same. Because Moon remains in a star for about 24 hours. Is this possible? Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Lajimi ji, First i want to clear that i am not gainst P.M.Sanmugam perosnaly, i am aginst only rules: Asc. SL conection with Moon starlord only. and i am prove many times with maths that this rules is totaly falcy.and I REQUEST YOU TO CHECK AS I GIVEN MATHS YOUR SELF YOU FOUND I AM VERY CORRECT..AND THEN REPLY ABOUT YOU EXPERIANCE. Regarding other rules of Sanmugan's i salute him about "Aspect of Outerplanet and inner planet " and i many times write in grouop and i personaly use regularly in my daily use. Regarding Astrosceret part 2, you have mantion rules on SUN-VEN-JUP is writen by Late Sri Kudanthai Nathan-Srilanka not by snmugam IF THERE IS NO PRINT MISTKE IN BOOK. Now as per Rules planet in star or sub

in SUN-VEN-JUP will be candidate for 9th sublord. Look at todays position: --------- DATE WEDNESDAY 6 9 2006 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 4 H. 29 M. 47 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 5 19 25 14 Sun Ven Rah : ends at 22:35)MOON 10 24 18 11 Sat Mar Rah : ends at 08:24)MOON 1 11 1 46 37 Sat Mar Mer : MARS 6 4 44 21 Mer Sun Sat : ends at 19:20)MERC 5 23 52 0 Sun Ven Sat : ends at 07:14)JUP. 7 20 17 30 Ven Jup Jup :

NO END VEN. 5 5 49 13 Sun Ket Rah : NO END SAT. 4 24 41 44 Moo Mer Rah : NO END RAHU -R 12 2 0 9 Jup Jup Rah : NO end KETU -R 6 2 0 9 Mer Sun Jup : NO end URAN -R 11 18 51 24 Sat Rah Moo : NO end NEPT -R 10 23 53 31 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Mar-Jup 11:18)(Mar-Sat 14:40)(Mar-Mer 17:41)(Mar-Ket 18:56) (Mar-Ven 22:30)(Mar-Sun 23:34)(Mar-Moo 25:21)(Rah-Rah 28:34) --------- SUN- IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK MOON: MOON CHANGE SUB IN SHOR DURATION SO HE COME IN SUB OF VEN-JUP-SUN-RAHU-KETU-( AROUND 5:30 pm SUN

ASPECT MOON.SO AFTER 5:30 ALL DAY MOON - OK) MAR:IN THE STAR OF SUN- OK MER: IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK JUP- IN THE STAR AND SUB OG JUP. - OK VEN: IN THE STAR OF KETU AGENT OF SUN. AND SUB OF rah AGENT OF jup.-OK SAT: IN THE SUB OF RAH AGENT OF JUP.-OK RAH:IN THE STAR OF JUP.-OK KET: IN THE STAR OF SUN. - OK That means all 9 planet be a 9th sub then how to select one of them? I request all memebrs to check agian and agian and look am i right? I have check this rules when i read book but i found falcy rule and t i dont want to discuss this but when you specily ask my opinion on this rules i have to write what i relay think on this rules.this is the reson i never suggest any one astrosecret part 2 & 3. i suggest only part one. Lajimi ji many time i write in group and also talk on phone with many members that

never accept any thing without checking our self even it was writen by any one( i repit any one).and dont read book with deep impression of authore, also never read astrology book like story book.if you wnat to understand any method properly and right way.this is my personal thinking and i dont mind if one can disagree with me. with best regards Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, You seem to dismiss the late Shanmugham's rule out of hand... May I draw your attention to the chapter

on Advanced Stellar Astrology in his book(part II)... He says " I have observed that in the Star or Sub of the IXth sublord,Sun or Jup or Venus has been found transitting at the TOB... For the time taken by you,Kanak,as the correct time Venus some distance away from being exactly on the IXth cusp.... And...this rule,also of the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham has been proved to be correct,in the example quoted by you... The late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham has given many rules..it does not seem to be fair to apply only one of the rules,and if it fails,condemn the theory in totality... Kindly think about it carefully, Kanak,Sun,Jupiter and Venus are Atmakaraka,Putrakaraka and Kamakaraka respectively... Well,pl.let me have your opinion... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vijay ji, I dont belive in Sanmugam's Rule. many time in this group i prove by maths that this rules is totaly falcy. bellow is my clculation as per K.Baskarn's Book.I WANT TO CLEAR THAT TIME BY ME AND RAICHURJI ARE MOSTLY SAME BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPN EVERY TIME THAT IF WE CHECK WITH SANMUGAM'S RULES AND WITH HELP OF RP BITHER COME SAME. If we check time 03.20 Asc. SL is MOON and Birth MOON star lord is MAR.not match. 03-09-2006 13:52:15 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g. 9,2,1997 ? 03,09,2006 pLACE: l.g.hOSPITAL-aHMEDABAD 23 n 00 ,, 72 e 36WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N ? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 13,52,15 DAY LORD IS SUN. ASC= 237 3 40 MARS MERC JUP VEN MOON/CHANDRA 256 14 7 JUP VEN MOON

MOONRAHU 332 8 35 JUP JUP RAHU SATKETU 152 8 35 MERC SUN JUP VEN ANOTHER TIME Y/N ? MOON TRANSIT ON 18/08/1978 ALLHABAD. As under: From 02.27.05 MAR start start.02.27.05 to 03.41.25 MAR satar and MAR sub .Our time is suring this SUB so we check SUB-PSUB for this SUB. 02.27.05 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MAR03.41.25 TO 02.31.25 - MAR-MAR-RAH02.31.25 TO 02.52.28 - MAR-MAR-JUP02.52.28 TO 03.04.15 - MAR-MAR-SAT03.04.15 TO 03.14.47 - MAR-MAR-MER03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KET03.19.17 TO 03.31.59 - MAR-MAR-VEN03.31.59 TO 03.35.14 - MAR-MAR-SUN03.35.14 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MOO I allwyas prefer to use rules given

in K.Baskaran's rules: RP Asc. = Birth MOON andRP Moon = Birth Asc. we have in RP Asc. MARS MERC JUP VEN ( MAR-VEN andf RAH are in Conj.) MAR is as Starlord of birth MOON.agian MER sub(Agent of VEN)sao we have two more RPMER and JUP.But KETU aspected by JUP and MAR and both are in our RP. so we give more wight to nodeand select sub-sub as KET.03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KETAsc for this time is as under:For 03.14.47 : 02.29.24.07 - MER-JUP-SUN-VEN For 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. In RP Moon we have JUP VEN MOON MOON so if we look at time 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. all are same as RP Moon. and i suggest to take this time is as right birth time. All caculation done on KPAstro2.5 with KPNA. and RP calculted in Raichur's

software. RegardsKanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: As per criterion of ASC sub lord should be same as Moon,star the correcttime will be 3,20 :asc 90,33,21 i,e Cancer or Karka LagnaVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear Mr. Rao, Raichur, Kanak and other learned scholars, Please help me to fix the Lagna of the following native, whose TOB is not accurately known. Female 18-08-1978 0300 - 0330 Hrs IST Allahabad (UP) 81E51, 25N27 Star :

Dhanshta-I (Capricorn Rasi) Within the span of 0300 to 0330 Hrs IST, the Lagna transits from Gemini to Cancer. It would be obligatory, if the Lagna could be fixed to Sub level. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW >> I Love Walking In Rain Because

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September 7, 2006

Dear Raichur ji, I am wondering, ok this rules is for agjesting time within 10 to 15 Mnt.but as i many times give detials with maths that 24 hrs. all planet conected woth Moonn star so when we adjest time within 10 t0 15 Mnt. answer is same bcoze we know all nine planet always conwected with starlord of MOON. I STRONGLY REQUEST YOU TO CHECK FOR 5 DAYS CONTUNUESLY you will found all nine planet conection with Moon starlord.so ther is no question of 10 to 15 mnt. i am try to give more detail: for exmple MOON is in the star of JUP. Now givan time is 4.15 and Asc sublord is JUP. next sub is SAT and befer JUP sub is RAH. bcoze we have to check within 10 to 15 mnt so we have only three sub for selection. as per me all nine planet always conected with moon star lord so all three JUP,SAT,RAH are

conected with Moon star lord JUP. Now please gide me how to slect one within this three ? regards kanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: DEAR Hasmukhrai This is one rule, of the many for Birth Rectification, where TOB is to be corrected. The FINAL ANALYSIS IS THE CHECK ON THE INCIDENTS IN LIFE, OR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN WHOSE TOB IS KNOWN TO BE CORRECT. The correction by this method is valid only within a span of

about 10-15 minutes. But, where the time is definite, you will find the SUB LORD of ASC is cannected to the starlord of the moon, directly, or indirectly. check and let us have the results of your study. good luckHasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik > wrote: If the sub-lord of the Ascendant has to be the star-lord of the Moon to prove that the time of birth is correct, then the Ascendant sub-lord of all the natives born within about 24 hours must be the same. Because Moon remains in a star for about 24 hours. Is this possible? Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Lajimi ji, First i want to clear that i am not gainst P.M.Sanmugam perosnaly, i am aginst only rules: Asc. SL conection with Moon starlord only. and i am prove many times with maths that this rules is totaly falcy.and I REQUEST YOU TO CHECK AS I GIVEN MATHS YOUR SELF YOU FOUND I AM VERY CORRECT..AND THEN REPLY ABOUT YOU EXPERIANCE. Regarding other rules of Sanmugan's i salute him about "Aspect of Outerplanet and inner planet " and i

many times write in grouop and i personaly use regularly in my daily use. Regarding Astrosceret part 2, you have mantion rules on SUN-VEN-JUP is writen by Late Sri Kudanthai Nathan-Srilanka not by snmugam IF THERE IS NO PRINT MISTKE IN BOOK. Now as per Rules planet in star or sub in SUN-VEN-JUP will be candidate for 9th sublord. Look at todays position: --------- DATE WEDNESDAY 6 9 2006 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 4 H. 29 M. 47 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 5 19 25 14 Sun Ven Rah : ends at 22:35)MOON 10 24 18 11 Sat Mar Rah : ends

at 08:24)MOON 1 11 1 46 37 Sat Mar Mer : MARS 6 4 44 21 Mer Sun Sat : ends at 19:20)MERC 5 23 52 0 Sun Ven Sat : ends at 07:14)JUP. 7 20 17 30 Ven Jup Jup : NO END VEN. 5 5 49 13 Sun Ket Rah : NO END SAT. 4 24 41 44 Moo Mer Rah : NO END RAHU -R 12 2 0 9 Jup Jup Rah : NO end KETU -R 6 2 0 9 Mer Sun Jup : NO end URAN -R 11 18 51 24 Sat Rah Moo : NO end NEPT -R 10 23 53 31 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Mar-Jup 11:18)(Mar-Sat 14:40)(Mar-Mer 17:41)(Mar-Ket 18:56) (Mar-Ven 22:30)(Mar-Sun

23:34)(Mar-Moo 25:21)(Rah-Rah 28:34) --------- SUN- IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK MOON: MOON CHANGE SUB IN SHOR DURATION SO HE COME IN SUB OF VEN-JUP-SUN-RAHU-KETU-( AROUND 5:30 pm SUN ASPECT MOON.SO AFTER 5:30 ALL DAY MOON - OK) MAR:IN THE STAR OF SUN- OK MER: IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK JUP- IN THE STAR AND SUB OG JUP. - OK VEN: IN THE STAR OF KETU AGENT OF SUN. AND SUB OF rah AGENT OF jup.-OK SAT: IN THE SUB OF RAH AGENT OF JUP.-OK RAH:IN THE STAR OF JUP.-OK KET: IN THE STAR OF SUN. - OK That means all 9 planet be a 9th sub then how to select one of them? I request all memebrs to check agian and agian and look am i right? I have check this rules when i read book but i found

falcy rule and t i dont want to discuss this but when you specily ask my opinion on this rules i have to write what i relay think on this rules.this is the reson i never suggest any one astrosecret part 2 & 3. i suggest only part one. Lajimi ji many time i write in group and also talk on phone with many members that never accept any thing without checking our self even it was writen by any one( i repit any one).and dont read book with deep impression of authore, also never read astrology book like story book.if you wnat to understand any method properly and right way.this is my personal thinking and i dont mind if one can disagree with me. with best regards Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, You seem to dismiss the late Shanmugham's rule out of hand... May I draw your attention to the chapter on Advanced Stellar Astrology in his book(part II)... He says " I have observed that in the Star or Sub of the IXth sublord,Sun or Jup or Venus has been found transitting at the TOB... For the time taken by you,Kanak,as the correct time Venus some distance away from being exactly on the

IXth cusp.... And...this rule,also of the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham has been proved to be correct,in the example quoted by you... The late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham has given many rules..it does not seem to be fair to apply only one of the rules,and if it fails,condemn the theory in totality... Kindly think about it carefully, Kanak,Sun,Jupiter and Venus are Atmakaraka,Putrakaraka and Kamakaraka respectively...

Well,pl.let me have your opinion... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vijay ji, I dont belive in Sanmugam's Rule. many time in this group i prove by maths that this rules is totaly falcy. bellow is my clculation as per K.Baskarn's Book.I WANT TO CLEAR THAT TIME BY ME AND RAICHURJI ARE MOSTLY SAME BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPN EVERY TIME THAT IF WE CHECK WITH

SANMUGAM'S RULES AND WITH HELP OF RP BITHER COME SAME. If we check time 03.20 Asc. SL is MOON and Birth MOON star lord is MAR.not match. 03-09-2006 13:52:15 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g. 9,2,1997 ? 03,09,2006 pLACE: l.g.hOSPITAL-aHMEDABAD 23 n 00 ,, 72 e 36WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N ? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 13,52,15 DAY LORD IS SUN. ASC= 237 3 40 MARS MERC JUP VEN MOON/CHANDRA 256 14 7 JUP VEN MOON MOONRAHU 332 8 35 JUP JUP RAHU SATKETU 152 8 35 MERC SUN JUP VEN ANOTHER TIME Y/N ? MOON TRANSIT ON 18/08/1978 ALLHABAD. As under: From 02.27.05 MAR start start.02.27.05 to 03.41.25 MAR satar and MAR sub .Our time is suring this SUB so we check SUB-PSUB for this SUB. 02.27.05 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MAR03.41.25 TO 02.31.25 - MAR-MAR-RAH02.31.25 TO

02.52.28 - MAR-MAR-JUP02.52.28 TO 03.04.15 - MAR-MAR-SAT03.04.15 TO 03.14.47 - MAR-MAR-MER03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KET03.19.17 TO 03.31.59 - MAR-MAR-VEN03.31.59 TO 03.35.14 - MAR-MAR-SUN03.35.14 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MOO I allwyas prefer to use rules given in K.Baskaran's rules: RP Asc. = Birth MOON andRP Moon = Birth Asc. we have in RP Asc. MARS MERC JUP VEN ( MAR-VEN andf RAH are in Conj.) MAR is as Starlord of birth MOON.agian MER sub(Agent of VEN)sao we have two more RPMER and JUP.But KETU aspected by JUP and MAR and both are in our RP. so we give more wight to nodeand select sub-sub as KET.03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KETAsc for this time is as under:For 03.14.47 : 02.29.24.07 - MER-JUP-SUN-VEN For 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. In RP Moon we have JUP VEN

MOON MOON so if we look at time 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. all are same as RP Moon. and i suggest to take this time is as right birth time. All caculation done on KPAstro2.5 with KPNA. and RP calculted in Raichur's software. RegardsKanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: As per criterion of ASC sub lord should be same as Moon,star the correcttime will be 3,20 :asc 90,33,21 i,e Cancer or Karka LagnaVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear Mr. Rao, Raichur, Kanak and other learned scholars, Please help me to fix the Lagna of the following native, whose TOB is not accurately known. Female 18-08-1978 0300 - 0330 Hrs IST Allahabad (UP) 81E51, 25N27 Star : Dhanshta-I (Capricorn Rasi) Within the span of 0300 to 0330 Hrs IST, the Lagna transits from Gemini to Cancer. It would be obligatory, if the Lagna could be fixed to Sub level. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your

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Dear Kanak, If I am not mistaken,I have already replied to this earlier...The K.P. rule is... " whenever in doubt,take the RPs immediately, to guide you...The Asc star-lord or sub-lord will help you choose the correct picture..." ! With best wishes, L.Y.Rao. GOOD LUCK ! Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Raichur ji, I am wondering, ok this rules is for agjesting time within 10 to 15 Mnt.but as i many times give detials with maths that 24 hrs. all planet conected woth Moonn star so when we adjest time within 10 t0 15 Mnt. answer is same bcoze we know all nine planet always conwected with starlord of MOON. I

STRONGLY REQUEST YOU TO CHECK FOR 5 DAYS CONTUNUESLY you will found all nine planet conection with Moon starlord.so ther is no question of 10 to 15 mnt. i am try to give more detail: for exmple MOON is in the star of JUP. Now givan time is 4.15 and Asc sublord is JUP. next sub is SAT and befer JUP sub is RAH. bcoze we have to check within 10 to 15 mnt so we have only three sub for selection. as per me all nine planet always conected with moon star lord so all three JUP,SAT,RAH are conected with Moon star lord JUP. Now please gide me how to slect one within this three ? regards kanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: DEAR Hasmukhrai This is one rule, of the many for Birth Rectification, where TOB is to be corrected. The FINAL ANALYSIS IS THE CHECK ON THE INCIDENTS IN LIFE, OR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN WHOSE TOB IS KNOWN TO BE CORRECT. The correction by this method is valid only within a span of about 10-15 minutes. But, where the time is definite, you will find the SUB LORD of ASC is cannected to the starlord of the moon, directly, or indirectly. check and let us have the results of your study. good luckHasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik > wrote: If the sub-lord of the Ascendant has to be the star-lord of the Moon to prove

that the time of birth is correct, then the Ascendant sub-lord of all the natives born within about 24 hours must be the same. Because Moon remains in a star for about 24 hours. Is this possible? Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Lajimi ji, First i want to clear that i am not gainst P.M.Sanmugam perosnaly, i am aginst only rules: Asc. SL conection with Moon starlord only. and i am prove many times with maths

that this rules is totaly falcy.and I REQUEST YOU TO CHECK AS I GIVEN MATHS YOUR SELF YOU FOUND I AM VERY CORRECT..AND THEN REPLY ABOUT YOU EXPERIANCE. Regarding other rules of Sanmugan's i salute him about "Aspect of Outerplanet and inner planet " and i many times write in grouop and i personaly use regularly in my daily use. Regarding Astrosceret part 2, you have mantion rules on SUN-VEN-JUP is writen by Late Sri Kudanthai Nathan-Srilanka not by snmugam IF THERE IS NO PRINT MISTKE IN BOOK. Now as per Rules planet in star or sub in SUN-VEN-JUP will be candidate for 9th sublord. Look at todays position: --------- DATE

WEDNESDAY 6 9 2006 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 4 H. 29 M. 47 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 5 19 25 14 Sun Ven Rah : ends at 22:35)MOON 10 24 18 11 Sat Mar Rah : ends at 08:24)MOON 1 11 1 46 37 Sat Mar Mer : MARS 6 4 44 21 Mer Sun Sat : ends at 19:20)MERC 5 23 52 0 Sun Ven Sat : ends at 07:14)JUP. 7 20 17 30 Ven Jup Jup : NO END VEN. 5 5 49 13 Sun Ket Rah : NO END SAT. 4 24 41 44 Moo Mer Rah : NO END RAHU -R 12 2 0 9 Jup Jup Rah : NO

end KETU -R 6 2 0 9 Mer Sun Jup : NO end URAN -R 11 18 51 24 Sat Rah Moo : NO end NEPT -R 10 23 53 31 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Mar-Jup 11:18)(Mar-Sat 14:40)(Mar-Mer 17:41)(Mar-Ket 18:56) (Mar-Ven 22:30)(Mar-Sun 23:34)(Mar-Moo 25:21)(Rah-Rah 28:34) --------- SUN- IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK MOON: MOON CHANGE SUB IN SHOR DURATION SO HE COME IN SUB OF VEN-JUP-SUN-RAHU-KETU-( AROUND 5:30 pm SUN ASPECT MOON.SO AFTER 5:30 ALL DAY MOON - OK) MAR:IN THE STAR OF SUN- OK MER: IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK JUP- IN THE STAR AND SUB OG JUP. - OK VEN: IN THE STAR OF KETU AGENT OF SUN. AND SUB OF rah AGENT OF jup.-OK SAT: IN THE SUB OF RAH AGENT OF JUP.-OK RAH:IN THE STAR OF JUP.-OK KET: IN THE STAR OF SUN. - OK That means all 9 planet be a 9th sub then how to select one of them? I request all memebrs to check agian and agian and look am i right? I have check this rules when i read book but i found falcy rule and t i dont want to discuss this but when you specily ask my opinion on this rules i have to write what i relay think on this rules.this is the reson i never suggest any one astrosecret part 2 & 3. i suggest only part one. Lajimi ji many time i write in group and also talk on phone with many members that never accept any thing without checking our self even it was writen by any one( i repit any one).and dont read book with deep impression of authore, also never read astrology book like story book.if you wnat to understand any method properly and right way.this is my

personal thinking and i dont mind if one can disagree with me. with best regards Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, You seem to dismiss the late Shanmugham's rule out of hand... May I draw your attention to the chapter on Advanced Stellar Astrology in his book(part II)... He says " I have observed that in the Star or Sub of

the IXth sublord,Sun or Jup or Venus has been found transitting at the TOB... For the time taken by you,Kanak,as the correct time Venus some distance away from being exactly on the IXth cusp.... And...this rule,also of the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham has been proved to be correct,in the example quoted by you... The late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham has given many rules..it does not seem to be fair to apply only one of the rules,and if it fails,condemn the theory in totality... Kindly think about it carefully, Kanak,Sun,Jupiter and Venus are Atmakaraka,Putrakaraka and Kamakaraka respectively... Well,pl.let me have your opinion... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vijay ji, I dont belive in Sanmugam's Rule. many time in this group i prove by maths that this rules is totaly falcy. bellow is my clculation as per K.Baskarn's Book.I WANT TO CLEAR THAT TIME BY ME AND RAICHURJI ARE MOSTLY SAME BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPN EVERY TIME THAT IF WE CHECK WITH SANMUGAM'S RULES AND WITH HELP OF RP BITHER COME SAME. If we check time 03.20 Asc. SL is MOON and Birth MOON star lord is MAR.not match. 03-09-2006 13:52:15 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g. 9,2,1997 ? 03,09,2006 pLACE: l.g.hOSPITAL-aHMEDABAD 23 n 00 ,, 72 e 36WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N

? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 13,52,15 DAY LORD IS SUN. ASC= 237 3 40 MARS MERC JUP VEN MOON/CHANDRA 256 14 7 JUP VEN MOON MOONRAHU 332 8 35 JUP JUP RAHU SATKETU 152 8 35 MERC SUN

JUP VEN ANOTHER TIME Y/N ? MOON TRANSIT ON 18/08/1978 ALLHABAD. As under: From 02.27.05 MAR start start.02.27.05 to 03.41.25 MAR satar and MAR sub .Our time is suring this SUB so we check SUB-PSUB for this SUB. 02.27.05 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MAR03.41.25 TO 02.31.25 - MAR-MAR-RAH02.31.25 TO 02.52.28 - MAR-MAR-JUP02.52.28 TO 03.04.15 - MAR-MAR-SAT03.04.15 TO 03.14.47 - MAR-MAR-MER03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KET03.19.17 TO 03.31.59 - MAR-MAR-VEN03.31.59 TO 03.35.14 - MAR-MAR-SUN03.35.14 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MOO I allwyas prefer to use rules given in K.Baskaran's rules: RP Asc. = Birth MOON andRP Moon = Birth Asc. we have in RP Asc. MARS MERC JUP VEN ( MAR-VEN andf RAH are in Conj.) MAR is as Starlord of birth MOON.agian MER sub(Agent of VEN)sao we have two more RPMER and

JUP.But KETU aspected by JUP and MAR and both are in our RP. so we give more wight to nodeand select sub-sub as KET.03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KETAsc for this time is as under:For 03.14.47 : 02.29.24.07 - MER-JUP-SUN-VEN For 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. In RP Moon we have JUP VEN MOON MOON so if we look at time 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. all are same as RP Moon. and i suggest to take this time is as right birth time. All caculation done on KPAstro2.5 with KPNA. and RP calculted in Raichur's software. RegardsKanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: As per criterion of ASC sub lord should be same as

Moon,star the correcttime will be 3,20 :asc 90,33,21 i,e Cancer or Karka LagnaVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear Mr. Rao, Raichur, Kanak and other learned scholars, Please help me to fix the Lagna of the following native, whose TOB is not accurately known. Female 18-08-1978 0300 - 0330 Hrs IST Allahabad (UP) 81E51, 25N27 Star : Dhanshta-I (Capricorn Rasi) Within the span of 0300 to 0330 Hrs IST, the Lagna transits from Gemini to Cancer. It would be obligatory, if the Lagna could be fixed to Sub level. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more

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Dear Kanak Select one nearest to known (but uncertain time). Then final test is always to correlate the relation ships, and events. In your case, see your 5th house lords, and your son,s 9th cusp lords. you should find a relationship in these, if both the TOBs are correct. good luck Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Raichur ji, I am wondering, ok this rules is for agjesting time within 10 to 15 Mnt.but as i

many times give detials with maths that 24 hrs. all planet conected woth Moonn star so when we adjest time within 10 t0 15 Mnt. answer is same bcoze we know all nine planet always conwected with starlord of MOON. I STRONGLY REQUEST YOU TO CHECK FOR 5 DAYS CONTUNUESLY you will found all nine planet conection with Moon starlord.so ther is no question of 10 to 15 mnt. i am try to give more detail: for exmple MOON is in the star of JUP. Now givan time is 4.15 and Asc sublord is JUP. next sub is SAT and befer JUP sub is RAH. bcoze we have to check within 10 to 15 mnt so we have only three sub for selection. as per me all nine planet always conected with moon star lord so all three JUP,SAT,RAH are conected with Moon star lord JUP. Now please gide me how to slect one within this three ? regards kanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: DEAR Hasmukhrai This is one rule, of the many for Birth Rectification, where TOB is to be corrected. The FINAL ANALYSIS IS THE CHECK ON THE INCIDENTS IN LIFE, OR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN WHOSE TOB IS KNOWN TO BE CORRECT. The correction by this method is valid only within a span of about 10-15 minutes. But, where the time is definite, you will find the SUB LORD of ASC is cannected to the starlord of the moon, directly, or indirectly. check and let us have the results of your study. good luckHasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik > wrote: If the sub-lord of the Ascendant has to be the star-lord of the Moon to prove that the time of birth is correct, then the Ascendant sub-lord of all the natives born within about 24 hours must be the same. Because Moon remains in a star for about 24 hours. Is this possible? Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote:

Dear Lajimi ji, First i want to clear that i am not gainst P.M.Sanmugam perosnaly, i am aginst only rules: Asc. SL conection with Moon starlord only. and i am prove many times with maths that this rules is totaly falcy.and I REQUEST YOU TO CHECK AS I GIVEN MATHS YOUR SELF YOU FOUND I AM VERY CORRECT..AND THEN REPLY ABOUT YOU EXPERIANCE. Regarding other rules of Sanmugan's i salute him about "Aspect of Outerplanet and inner planet " and i many times write in grouop and i personaly use regularly in my daily use. Regarding Astrosceret part 2, you have mantion rules on SUN-VEN-JUP is writen by Late Sri Kudanthai Nathan-Srilanka not by snmugam IF THERE IS NO PRINT MISTKE IN BOOK. Now as per Rules planet in star or sub in SUN-VEN-JUP will be candidate for 9th

sublord. Look at todays position: --------- DATE WEDNESDAY 6 9 2006 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 4 H. 29 M. 47 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 5 19 25 14 Sun Ven Rah : ends at 22:35)MOON 10 24 18 11 Sat Mar Rah : ends at 08:24)MOON 1 11 1 46 37 Sat Mar Mer : MARS 6 4 44 21 Mer Sun Sat : ends at 19:20)MERC 5 23 52 0 Sun Ven Sat : ends at 07:14)JUP. 7 20 17 30 Ven Jup Jup : NO END VEN.

5 5 49 13 Sun Ket Rah : NO END SAT. 4 24 41 44 Moo Mer Rah : NO END RAHU -R 12 2 0 9 Jup Jup Rah : NO end KETU -R 6 2 0 9 Mer Sun Jup : NO end URAN -R 11 18 51 24 Sat Rah Moo : NO end NEPT -R 10 23 53 31 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Mar-Jup 11:18)(Mar-Sat 14:40)(Mar-Mer 17:41)(Mar-Ket 18:56) (Mar-Ven 22:30)(Mar-Sun 23:34)(Mar-Moo 25:21)(Rah-Rah 28:34) --------- SUN- IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK MOON: MOON CHANGE SUB IN SHOR DURATION SO HE COME IN SUB OF VEN-JUP-SUN-RAHU-KETU-( AROUND 5:30 pm SUN ASPECT MOON.SO AFTER 5:30 ALL DAY MOON -

OK) MAR:IN THE STAR OF SUN- OK MER: IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK JUP- IN THE STAR AND SUB OG JUP. - OK VEN: IN THE STAR OF KETU AGENT OF SUN. AND SUB OF rah AGENT OF jup.-OK SAT: IN THE SUB OF RAH AGENT OF JUP.-OK RAH:IN THE STAR OF JUP.-OK KET: IN THE STAR OF SUN. - OK That means all 9 planet be a 9th sub then how to select one of them? I request all memebrs to check agian and agian and look am i right? I have check this rules when i read book but i found falcy rule and t i dont want to discuss this but when you specily ask my opinion on this rules i have to write what i relay think on this rules.this is the reson i never suggest any one astrosecret part 2 & 3. i suggest only part one. Lajimi ji many time i write in group and also talk on phone with many members that never accept any thing without checking our

self even it was writen by any one( i repit any one).and dont read book with deep impression of authore, also never read astrology book like story book.if you wnat to understand any method properly and right way.this is my personal thinking and i dont mind if one can disagree with me. with best regards Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, You seem to dismiss the late Shanmugham's rule out of hand... May I draw your attention to the chapter on Advanced Stellar Astrology in his

book(part II)... He says " I have observed that in the Star or Sub of the IXth sublord,Sun or Jup or Venus has been found transitting at the TOB... For the time taken by you,Kanak,as the correct time Venus some distance away from being exactly on the IXth cusp.... And...this rule,also of the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham has been proved to be correct,in the example quoted by you... The late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham

has given many rules..it does not seem to be fair to apply only one of the rules,and if it fails,condemn the theory in totality... Kindly think about it carefully, Kanak,Sun,Jupiter and Venus are Atmakaraka,Putrakaraka and Kamakaraka respectively... Well,pl.let me have your opinion... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vijay ji, I dont belive in Sanmugam's Rule. many time in this group i prove by maths that this rules is totaly falcy. bellow is my clculation as per K.Baskarn's Book.I WANT TO CLEAR THAT TIME BY ME AND RAICHURJI ARE MOSTLY SAME BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPN EVERY TIME THAT IF WE CHECK WITH SANMUGAM'S RULES AND WITH HELP OF RP BITHER COME SAME. If we check time 03.20 Asc. SL is MOON and Birth MOON star lord is MAR.not match. 03-09-2006 13:52:15 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g.

9,2,1997 ? 03,09,2006 pLACE: l.g.hOSPITAL-aHMEDABAD 23 n 00 ,, 72 e 36WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N ? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 13,52,15 DAY LORD IS SUN. ASC= 237 3 40 MARS MERC JUP VEN MOON/CHANDRA 256 14 7 JUP VEN MOON MOONRAHU

332 8 35 JUP JUP RAHU SATKETU 152 8 35 MERC SUN JUP VEN ANOTHER TIME Y/N ? MOON TRANSIT ON 18/08/1978 ALLHABAD. As under: From 02.27.05 MAR start start.02.27.05 to 03.41.25 MAR satar and MAR sub .Our time is suring this SUB so we check SUB-PSUB for this SUB. 02.27.05 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MAR03.41.25 TO 02.31.25 - MAR-MAR-RAH02.31.25 TO 02.52.28 - MAR-MAR-JUP02.52.28 TO 03.04.15 - MAR-MAR-SAT03.04.15 TO 03.14.47 - MAR-MAR-MER03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KET03.19.17 TO 03.31.59 - MAR-MAR-VEN03.31.59 TO 03.35.14 - MAR-MAR-SUN03.35.14 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MOO I allwyas prefer to use rules given in K.Baskaran's rules: RP Asc. = Birth MOON andRP Moon = Birth

Asc. we have in RP Asc. MARS MERC JUP VEN ( MAR-VEN andf RAH are in Conj.) MAR is as Starlord of birth MOON.agian MER sub(Agent of VEN)sao we have two more RPMER and JUP.But KETU aspected by JUP and MAR and both are in our RP. so we give more wight to nodeand select sub-sub as KET.03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KETAsc for this time is as under:For 03.14.47 : 02.29.24.07 - MER-JUP-SUN-VEN For 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. In RP Moon we have JUP VEN MOON MOON so if we look at time 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. all are same as RP Moon. and i suggest to take this time is as right birth time. All caculation done on KPAstro2.5 with KPNA. and RP calculted in Raichur's software. RegardsKanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: As per criterion of ASC sub lord should be same as Moon,star the correcttime will be 3,20 :asc 90,33,21 i,e Cancer or Karka LagnaVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear Mr. Rao, Raichur, Kanak and other learned scholars, Please help me to fix the Lagna of the following native, whose TOB is not accurately known. Female 18-08-1978 0300 - 0330 Hrs IST Allahabad (UP) 81E51, 25N27 Star : Dhanshta-I (Capricorn Rasi) Within the span of 0300 to 0330 Hrs IST, the Lagna transits from Gemini to Cancer. It would be obligatory, if the Lagna could be fixed to Sub level. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See

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Dear Raichur ji, If we have to final by relation sub then whjy we check this Sanmigam's rule? why not direct we checck relation sub? More perfect and correct method is: when some one come to us and ask any question then wehave to cast RP and check the sublord which is releted with question: for example: some one come to us and ask a question about Child Birth so we have to checdk 5th SL. this 5th SL will 100% come in RP. if not then adjest it as per RP and without any feerther chacking we found very correct time. A perosn come to me for consaltation, during aour talk he told me that he was go to jail for two days., i check his 12th SL was JUP so i adjest his 12th SL as RAH aby adjesting time only - 0.30Sec. regards KanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar wrote: Dear Kanak Select one nearest to known (but uncertain time). Then final test is always to correlate the relation ships, and events. In your case, see your 5th house lords, and your son,s 9th cusp lords. you should find a relationship in these, if both the TOBs are correct. good luck Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Raichur ji, I am wondering, ok this rules is for agjesting time within 10 to 15 Mnt.but as i many times give detials with maths that 24 hrs. all planet conected woth Moonn star so when we adjest time within 10 t0 15 Mnt. answer is same bcoze we know all nine planet always conwected with starlord of MOON. I STRONGLY REQUEST YOU TO CHECK FOR 5 DAYS CONTUNUESLY you will found all nine planet conection with Moon starlord.so ther is no question of 10 to 15 mnt. i am try to give more detail: for exmple MOON is in the star of JUP. Now givan time is 4.15 and Asc sublord is JUP. next sub is SAT and befer JUP sub is RAH. bcoze we have to check within 10 to 15 mnt so we have only three sub for selection. as per me all nine planet always conected with moon star lord so all three JUP,SAT,RAH are conected with Moon star

lord JUP. Now please gide me how to slect one within this three ? regards kanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: DEAR Hasmukhrai This is one rule, of the many for Birth Rectification, where TOB is to be corrected. The FINAL ANALYSIS IS THE CHECK ON THE INCIDENTS IN LIFE, OR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN WHOSE TOB IS KNOWN TO BE CORRECT. The correction by this method is valid only within a span of about 10-15 minutes. But, where the time is definite, you will find the SUB LORD of ASC is cannected to the starlord of the moon, directly, or indirectly. check and let us have the results of your study. good

luckHasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik > wrote: If the sub-lord of the Ascendant has to be the star-lord of the Moon to prove that the time of birth is correct, then the Ascendant sub-lord of all the natives born within about 24 hours must be the same. Because Moon remains in a star for about 24 hours. Is this possible? Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Lajimi ji, First i want to clear that i am not gainst P.M.Sanmugam perosnaly, i am aginst only rules: Asc. SL conection with Moon starlord only. and i am prove many times with maths that this rules is totaly falcy.and I REQUEST YOU TO CHECK AS I GIVEN MATHS YOUR SELF YOU FOUND I AM VERY CORRECT..AND THEN REPLY ABOUT YOU EXPERIANCE. Regarding other rules of Sanmugan's i salute him about "Aspect of Outerplanet and inner planet " and i many times write in grouop and i personaly use regularly in my daily use. Regarding Astrosceret part 2, you have mantion rules on SUN-VEN-JUP is writen by Late Sri Kudanthai Nathan-Srilanka not by snmugam IF THERE IS NO PRINT MISTKE IN BOOK. Now as per Rules planet in star or sub in SUN-VEN-JUP will be candidate for 9th sublord. Look at todays position: --------- DATE WEDNESDAY 6 9 2006 5.30 am I.S.T.SID TIME AT 5.30 LT= 4 H. 29 M. 47 S. Time show is for sub ending +/- 1 min.SUN. 5 19 25 14 Sun Ven Rah : ends at 22:35)MOON 10 24 18 11 Sat Mar Rah : ends at 08:24)MOON 1 11 1 46 37 Sat Mar Mer : MARS 6 4 44 21 Mer Sun Sat : ends at 19:20)MERC 5 23 52 0 Sun Ven Sat : ends at

07:14)JUP. 7 20 17 30 Ven Jup Jup : NO END VEN. 5 5 49 13 Sun Ket Rah : NO END SAT. 4 24 41 44 Moo Mer Rah : NO END RAHU -R 12 2 0 9 Jup Jup Rah : NO end KETU -R 6 2 0 9 Mer Sun Jup : NO end URAN -R 11 18 51 24 Sat Rah Moo : NO end NEPT -R 10 23 53 31 Sat Mar Mar : NO end MOON:(Mar-Jup 11:18)(Mar-Sat 14:40)(Mar-Mer 17:41)(Mar-Ket 18:56) (Mar-Ven 22:30)(Mar-Sun 23:34)(Mar-Moo 25:21)(Rah-Rah 28:34) --------- SUN- IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK MOON: MOON CHANGE SUB IN

SHOR DURATION SO HE COME IN SUB OF VEN-JUP-SUN-RAHU-KETU-( AROUND 5:30 pm SUN ASPECT MOON.SO AFTER 5:30 ALL DAY MOON - OK) MAR:IN THE STAR OF SUN- OK MER: IN THE STAR OF VEN - OK JUP- IN THE STAR AND SUB OG JUP. - OK VEN: IN THE STAR OF KETU AGENT OF SUN. AND SUB OF rah AGENT OF jup.-OK SAT: IN THE SUB OF RAH AGENT OF JUP.-OK RAH:IN THE STAR OF JUP.-OK KET: IN THE STAR OF SUN. - OK That means all 9 planet be a 9th sub then how to select one of them? I request all memebrs to check agian and agian and look am i right? I have check this rules when i read book but i found falcy rule and t i dont want to discuss this but when you specily ask my opinion on this rules i have to write what i relay think on this rules.this is the reson i never suggest any one astrosecret part 2 & 3. i suggest only part one. Lajimi ji

many time i write in group and also talk on phone with many members that never accept any thing without checking our self even it was writen by any one( i repit any one).and dont read book with deep impression of authore, also never read astrology book like story book.if you wnat to understand any method properly and right way.this is my personal thinking and i dont mind if one can disagree with me. with best regards Kanak Bosmia Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Kanak, You seem to dismiss the late Shanmugham's rule out of hand... May I draw your attention to the chapter on Advanced Stellar Astrology in his book(part II)... He says " I have observed that in the Star or Sub of the IXth sublord,Sun or Jup or Venus has been found transitting at the TOB... For the time taken by you,Kanak,as the correct time Venus some distance away from being exactly on the IXth cusp.... And...this rule,also of the late Shri M.P.Shanmugham has

been proved to be correct,in the example quoted by you... The late Mr.M.P.Shanmugham has given many rules..it does not seem to be fair to apply only one of the rules,and if it fails,condemn the theory in totality... Kindly think about it carefully, Kanak,Sun,Jupiter and Venus are Atmakaraka,Putrakaraka and Kamakaraka respectively... Well,pl.let me have your opinion... With kind regards, L.Y.Rao. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Vijay ji, I dont belive in Sanmugam's Rule. many time in this group i prove by maths that this rules is totaly falcy. bellow is my clculation as per K.Baskarn's Book.I WANT TO CLEAR THAT TIME BY ME AND RAICHURJI ARE MOSTLY SAME BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPN EVERY TIME THAT IF WE CHECK WITH SANMUGAM'S RULES AND WITH HELP OF RP BITHER COME SAME. If we check time 03.20 Asc. SL is MOON and Birth MOON star lord is MAR.not match. 03-09-2006 13:52:15 DATE DD,MM,YYYY e.g. 9,2,1997 ? 03,09,2006 pLACE: l.g.hOSPITAL-aHMEDABAD 23 n 00 ,, 72 e 36WANT GULBURGA METHOD Y/N ? TIME:24 HR BASIS not AM/PM,Hr,Mi.Sec ? 13,52,15 DAY LORD IS SUN. ASC= 237 3 40 MARS MERC JUP VEN MOON/CHANDRA 256

14 7 JUP VEN MOON MOONRAHU 332 8 35 JUP JUP RAHU SATKETU 152 8 35 MERC SUN JUP VEN ANOTHER TIME Y/N ? MOON TRANSIT ON 18/08/1978 ALLHABAD. As under: From 02.27.05 MAR start start.02.27.05 to 03.41.25 MAR satar and MAR sub .Our time is suring this SUB so we check SUB-PSUB for this SUB. 02.27.05 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MAR03.41.25 TO 02.31.25 - MAR-MAR-RAH02.31.25 TO 02.52.28 - MAR-MAR-JUP02.52.28 TO 03.04.15 - MAR-MAR-SAT03.04.15 TO 03.14.47 - MAR-MAR-MER03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KET03.19.17 TO 03.31.59 - MAR-MAR-VEN03.31.59 TO 03.35.14 -

MAR-MAR-SUN03.35.14 TO 03.41.25 - MAR-MAR-MOO I allwyas prefer to use rules given in K.Baskaran's rules: RP Asc. = Birth MOON andRP Moon = Birth Asc. we have in RP Asc. MARS MERC JUP VEN ( MAR-VEN andf RAH are in Conj.) MAR is as Starlord of birth MOON.agian MER sub(Agent of VEN)sao we have two more RPMER and JUP.But KETU aspected by JUP and MAR and both are in our RP. so we give more wight to nodeand select sub-sub as KET.03.14.47 TO 03.19.17 - MAR-MAR-KETAsc for this time is as under:For 03.14.47 : 02.29.24.07 - MER-JUP-SUN-VEN For 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. In RP Moon we have JUP VEN MOON MOON so if we look at time 03.19.17 : 03.00.22.50 - MOO-JUP-MOO-VEN. all are same as RP Moon. and i suggest to take this time is as right birth time. All caculation done on KPAstro2.5 with KPNA. and RP calculted in Raichur's software. RegardsKanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: As per criterion of ASC sub lord should be same as Moon,star the correcttime will be 3,20 :asc 90,33,21 i,e Cancer or Karka LagnaVijay Kumar <vk_51 > wrote: Dear Mr. Rao, Raichur, Kanak and other learned scholars, Please help me to fix the Lagna of the following native, whose TOB is not accurately known. Female 18-08-1978 0300 - 0330 Hrs

IST Allahabad (UP) 81E51, 25N27 Star : Dhanshta-I (Capricorn Rasi) Within the span of 0300 to 0330 Hrs IST, the Lagna transits from Gemini to Cancer. It would be obligatory, if the Lagna could be fixed to Sub level. Thanks and Regards, Vijay Kumar Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << All-new Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Hasmukhrai J MehtaAstrological services par excellencehttp://www.astroclinica.com Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Send FREE SMS to your friend's mobile from Messenger Version 8. Get it NOW Get your email and more, right on the new .com >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying << Get your email and more, right on the new .com Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail. >> I Love Walking In Rain Because Nobody Can See Me Crying <<

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September 7, 2006

yes. This is a good method. Mr Gondhalekar uses this method when he asks us to check RPS, and the connected s/l when the person comes to you, and your work on the natal chart . RPS are in a way divine guidance. But when answering some one by corespondence, you may not get it correct. There is a strong urge, both in the querent and the astrologer when the question on is asked. The only problem with RPS is that 2 KP astrologers working at different places, on the same question, at different times may not get the same answer. Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia wrote: Dear Raichur ji, If we have to final by relation sub then whjy we check this Sanmigam's rule? why not direct we checck relation sub? More perfect and correct method is: when some one come to us and ask any question then wehave to cast RP and check the sublord which is releted with question: for example: some one come to us and ask a question about Child Birth so we have to checdk 5th SL. this 5th SL will 100% come in RP. if not then adjest it as per RP and without any feerther chacking we found very correct time. A perosn come to me for consaltation, during aour talk he told me that he was go to jail for two days., i check his 12th SL was JUP so i adjest his 12th SL as

RAH aby adjesting time only - 0.30Sec. regards KanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: Dear Kanak Select one nearest to known (but uncertain time). Then final test is always to correlate the relation ships, and events. In your case, see your 5th house lords, and your son,s 9th cusp lords. you should find a relationship in these, if both the TOBs are correct. good luck Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: Dear Raichur ji, I am wondering, ok this rules is for agjesting time within 10 to 15 Mnt.but as i many times

give detials with maths that 24 hrs. all planet conected woth Moonn star so when we adjest time within 10 t0 15 Mnt. answer is same bcoze we know all nine planet always conwected with starlord of MOON. I STRONGLY REQUEST YOU TO CHECK FOR 5 DAYS CONTUNUESLY you will found all nine planet conection with Moon starlord.so ther is no question of 10 to 15 mnt. i am try to give more detail: for exmple MOON is in the star of JUP. Now givan time is 4.15 and Asc sublord is JUP. next sub is SAT and befer JUP sub is RAH. bcoze we have to check within 10 to 15 mnt so we have only three sub for selection. as per me all nine planet always conected with moon star lord so all three JUP,SAT,RAH are conected with Moon star lord JUP. Now please gide me how to slect one within this three ? regards kanakRaichur-a-r <raichurar > wrote: DEAR Hasmukhrai This is one rule, of the many for Birth Rectification, where TOB is to be corrected. The FINAL ANALYSIS IS THE CHECK ON THE INCIDENTS IN LIFE, OR RELATIONSHIP WITH CHILDREN WHOSE TOB IS KNOWN TO BE CORRECT. The correction by this method is valid only within a span of about 10-15 minutes. But, where the time is definite, you will find the SUB LORD of ASC is cannected to the starlord of the moon, directly, or indirectly. check and let us have the results of your study. good luckHasmukhrai Mehta <astroclinik > wrote: If the sub-lord of the Ascendant has to be the star-lord of the Moon to prove that the time of birth is correct, then the Ascendant sub-lord of all the natives born within about 24 hours must be the same. Because Moon remains in a star for about 24 hours. Is this possible? Good luck and all the best. Hasmukhrai J Mehta.Kanak Bosmia <kanakbosmia > wrote: