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om gurave namah

Dear Tarun

So finally : What happened on 22nd May??

Warm Regards

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Tarun Chopra [tarun] Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:11 AMSanjay RathRe: Hello

 

hello sanjay ji

 

on 22nd may there will be dasha change as ketu is coming as the dasha will be ketu/saturn/ketu

 

so you will observe that on the same date there will be something ending and some thing new will start. do see the affects on 22 may

 

regards

Tarun Chopra http://www.occultwizard.com messenger id. occult_wizardmobile No. 9811940236

 

 

 

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Sanjay Rath

'Tarun Chopra'

Cc: 'NarasimhaRao PV'

Sunday, May 07, 2006 6:04 PM

RE: Hello

 

| om gurave namah |Dear Tarun

 

You have a fine calculation. The basic point that you are saying is that the

Ayanamsa Year of coincidence

Raman Ayanamsa 397 AD

Yukteswara 499 AD

Krishnamurti 291 AD

Fagan Bradley 221 AD

Lahiri 285 AD and now

Tarun Chopra 1155 AD

....can I ask

1. why did you take January 1st (also please specify Julian or Gregorian) as the date of coincidence?

2. why can anybody not take any other year as the year of coincidence and, theoritically take the exact tropical zodiac (sayana chakra where sayana = sa+ayana) for say a particular date say, 15 August (independance day sounds good) as the moment of coincidence and then, taking the best method of averages, find the ayanamsa precession rate to say 50+something near 0.25 per year?

.....why are we doing this? what do we get by this? Are we actually arriving at a particular date through a logical process or are we taking something very arbitrarily?

 

If we go to the basic definition of the ayanamsa, the Rishi's NEVER used things like average precession rate that is being used by Lahiri, Raman and other ayanamsa. This is a makeup to make things easier for the low brain people of Kali Yuga so that they can use an approximation all the time and be happy. The *real* ayanamsa is defined as "Chitra Paksha" ayanamsa and this means that "at any point of time, the yogatara of Chitra will be at exactly 180 degrees from the starting point of the zodiac".

 

This definition given by the Maharishi's is PERFECT and accounts for all kinds of variable motions that the earth is subject to including variable rotation over the centuries, variable revolution, variable dip of the poles and that too are changing and so the precession rate is never linear and any attempt at making it linear by stating that the ayanamsa rate is 50.25 or 50.2719 seconds / year is actually the begining of the big mistake. The definition is applicable all the time and is perfectly measurable

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Dear A.N.,

 

Forwarding this update to the list as you've sent it to my mailbox in error.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak

" Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya

Monday, October 22, 2007 5:08 PM

Hello

 

 

Dear Wendy,

Warm Regards ! I dont know if you remember me, but I used

to be active on this list in 2005. At that time I had asked you

about analysing the chart of a native (Message # 154 and 157)and your

reply is attached below. I thought I will appraise you of the latest

developments which have happened in the last 2.5 years. You were

correct in pointing out the obstacles as the native is still not

married.

He did get his time corrected to 9.51 AM which changes his D-9 lagna

to Libra. At nearly 6 occassions, the native got good matches which

never materialised. I wanted to consult you on any advice which you

would like to pass on at this point. Do you feel that there is any

hope. When may marriage actually materialise for the native.

Please reply at convenience,

Best Regards,

A N

 

 

 

Re: Need help analysing

 

 

Dear A N,

 

As we know Saturn is the delaying planet and in certain

circumstances can deny altogether the significations he's associated

with. In this chart both significators of spouse (7th lord and

Venus) are in sign of Rx Saturn who is tightly conjunct Ketu...Ketu

himself is responsible for hindrance/restriction/separation etc..

 

There is also a harmful Dainya-Parivartana Yoga (exchange of

12th/4th lords) which indirectly involves 7th lord, who himself is

inimicably placed in 12th, whilst Rx Venus is combust 6th lord

Sun...a lot of obstacles here for the native.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

 

 

-

" anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak

<jyotish-vidya >

Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:35 AM

[Norton AntiSpam] Need help analysing

 

 

 

Hello respected members,

Below are the particulars of my cousin, whose chart

I am currently studying.

 

Male

31/1/74

09.50 AM

Delhi

 

Looking at the main chart and the Navamansha, I am not able to

pin point any reason why the native is not married. Many

favourable dasas have passed (Moon - Merc ). Can someone help

me decipher what I am overlooking here.

 

Thanks a lot for your help,

Regards,

A N

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Thankyou Wendy !! If anyone can help me with my query, I will be

very greatful.

Best Regards,

A N

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear A.N.,

>

> Forwarding this update to the list as you've sent it to my mailbox

in error.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

>

>

> -

> " anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak

> " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya

> Monday, October 22, 2007 5:08 PM

> Hello

>

>

> Dear Wendy,

> Warm Regards ! I dont know if you remember me, but I

used

> to be active on this list in 2005. At that time I had asked you

> about analysing the chart of a native (Message # 154 and 157)and

your

> reply is attached below. I thought I will appraise you of the latest

> developments which have happened in the last 2.5 years. You were

> correct in pointing out the obstacles as the native is still not

> married.

> He did get his time corrected to 9.51 AM which changes his D-9 lagna

> to Libra. At nearly 6 occassions, the native got good matches which

> never materialised. I wanted to consult you on any advice which you

> would like to pass on at this point. Do you feel that there is any

> hope. When may marriage actually materialise for the native.

> Please reply at convenience,

> Best Regards,

> A N

>

>

>

> Re: Need help analysing

>

>

> Dear A N,

>

> As we know Saturn is the delaying planet and in certain

> circumstances can deny altogether the significations he's associated

> with. In this chart both significators of spouse (7th lord and

> Venus) are in sign of Rx Saturn who is tightly conjunct Ketu...Ketu

> himself is responsible for hindrance/restriction/separation etc..

>

> There is also a harmful Dainya-Parivartana Yoga (exchange of

> 12th/4th lords) which indirectly involves 7th lord, who himself is

> inimicably placed in 12th, whilst Rx Venus is combust 6th lord

> Sun...a lot of obstacles here for the native.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

>

>

> -

> " anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak@>

> <jyotish-vidya >

> Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:35 AM

> [Norton AntiSpam] Need help analysing

>

>

>

> Hello respected members,

> Below are the particulars of my cousin, whose chart

> I am currently studying.

>

> Male

> 31/1/74

> 09.50 AM

> Delhi

>

> Looking at the main chart and the Navamansha, I am not able to

> pin point any reason why the native is not married. Many

> favourable dasas have passed (Moon - Merc ). Can someone help

> me decipher what I am overlooking here.

>

> Thanks a lot for your help,

> Regards,

> A N

>

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Dear Krishna,

Thaks for your inputs. One slight correction. Take the time

of birth as 9.51 AM (31/01/74, Delhi).

Your observation in point 5 would change as Venus will move to

5th house in Navamsa, but Rahu-Ketu on the 7-1 axis in Navamasa

confirm delay.

Obstacles have been plenty.

 

My query was about timing the marriage. Will be greatful on

any inputs.

 

Regards,

A N

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear A N,

>

> Sometime back, someone on this list pointed out that lot of

> people born around 1973-74 have delayed marriages. At that time,

> no one concluded as to why this is happening. The case you have

> brought up also falls in this category.

>

> I have been thinking about the reasons for the same and this is

> what I could think of is Jupiter being debilitated during this

> time frame. Of course, this alone can not cause delays in

> marriages. This is one adverse factor and in some charts, there

> could be added adverse factors causing the delays.

>

> In the chart that you have put up, I observe the following:

>

> 1. Jupiter debilitated

> 2. Jupiter and Venus are combust

> 3. Venus is retrograde

> 4. 7L Mercury is in the 12th

> 5. Venus is in the 6th in Navamsha

>

> There are so many unfavourbale factors in the chart wrt to

> marriage.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> --- anshupriya_nayak <anshupriya_nayak wrote:

>

> > Thankyou Wendy !! If anyone can help me with my query, I will

> > be

> > very greatful.

> > Best Regards,

> > A N

> > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> > <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear A.N.,

> > >

> > > Forwarding this update to the list as you've sent it to my

> > mailbox

> > in error.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > jyotish-vidya

> > > ___

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > " anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak@>

> > > " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya@>

> > > Monday, October 22, 2007 5:08 PM

> > > Hello

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Wendy,

> > > Warm Regards ! I dont know if you remember me,

> > but I

> > used

> > > to be active on this list in 2005. At that time I had asked

> > you

> > > about analysing the chart of a native (Message # 154 and

> > 157)and

> > your

> > > reply is attached below. I thought I will appraise you of

> > the latest

> > > developments which have happened in the last 2.5 years. You

> > were

> > > correct in pointing out the obstacles as the native is still

> > not

> > > married.

> > > He did get his time corrected to 9.51 AM which changes his

> > D-9 lagna

> > > to Libra. At nearly 6 occassions, the native got good

> > matches which

> > > never materialised. I wanted to consult you on any advice

> > which you

> > > would like to pass on at this point. Do you feel that there

> > is any

> > > hope. When may marriage actually materialise for the native.

> > > Please reply at convenience,

> > > Best Regards,

> > > A N

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Re: Need help analysing

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear A N,

> > >

> > > As we know Saturn is the delaying planet and in certain

> > > circumstances can deny altogether the significations he's

> > associated

> > > with. In this chart both significators of spouse (7th lord

> > and

> > > Venus) are in sign of Rx Saturn who is tightly conjunct

> > Ketu...Ketu

> > > himself is responsible for hindrance/restriction/separation

> > etc..

> > >

> > > There is also a harmful Dainya-Parivartana Yoga (exchange of

> > > 12th/4th lords) which indirectly involves 7th lord, who

> > himself is

> > > inimicably placed in 12th, whilst Rx Venus is combust 6th

> > lord

> > > Sun...a lot of obstacles here for the native.

> > >

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > " anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak@>

> > > <jyotish-vidya >

> > > Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:35 AM

> > > [Norton AntiSpam] Need help

> > analysing

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hello respected members,

> > > Below are the particulars of my cousin, whose chart

> > > I am currently studying.

> > >

> > > Male

> > > 31/1/74

> > > 09.50 AM

> > > Delhi

> > >

> > > Looking at the main chart and the Navamansha, I am not able

> > to

> > > pin point any reason why the native is not married. Many

> > > favourable dasas have passed (Moon - Merc ). Can someone

> > help

> > > me decipher what I am overlooking here.

> > >

> > > Thanks a lot for your help,

> > > Regards,

> > > A N

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Krishna,

After Jupiter transits into Sagittarius there

are 3 factors favouring marriage.

a)Jupiter will aspect the 2nd house.

b)Jupiter aspects the dispositor of Mercury (which is Saturn).

c)The native will be running a dasha favourable for marriage (Mars-

Jupiter).

 

OR

 

Another possibility is when Jupiter will transit into Aquarius,

4 factors in favour of marriage fructifying at that time:

a) Jupiter will conjoin Mercury (lord of 7th house).

b) the native would have reached an age of 36, which will

end the debility of Jupiter.

c) Jupiter will be aspecting Saturn (dispositor of Mercury).

d) The native will be running a dasha favourable for marriage.

(Mars-Mercury).

 

Which do you feel is stronger to bestow marriage.

In Ashtakvarga, Jupiter has 3 points in Saggitarius and 6 in

Aquarius.

 

Regards,

A N

 

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear A N,

>

> I am not sure if the rectification is correct. But, let me not

> get into that detail now.

>

> As far as the timing of marriage is concerned, I feel that

> Mars-Jup period is favourable. Note that 7th lord Mercury and

> Karaka Jupiter are both in the nakshatra of Mars. Mars itself is

> in the second house of family (and own house).

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

> --- anshupriya_nayak <anshupriya_nayak wrote:

>

> > Dear Krishna,

> > Thaks for your inputs. One slight correction. Take the time

> > of birth as 9.51 AM (31/01/74, Delhi).

> > Your observation in point 5 would change as Venus will move to

> > 5th house in Navamsa, but Rahu-Ketu on the 7-1 axis in

> > Navamasa

> > confirm delay.

> > Obstacles have been plenty.

> >

> > My query was about timing the marriage. Will be greatful on

> > any inputs.

> >

> > Regards,

> > A N

> > jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> >

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear A N,

> > >

> > > Sometime back, someone on this list pointed out that lot of

> > > people born around 1973-74 have delayed marriages. At that

> > time,

> > > no one concluded as to why this is happening. The case you

> > have

> > > brought up also falls in this category.

> > >

> > > I have been thinking about the reasons for the same and this

> > is

> > > what I could think of is Jupiter being debilitated during

> > this

> > > time frame. Of course, this alone can not cause delays in

> > > marriages. This is one adverse factor and in some charts,

> > there

> > > could be added adverse factors causing the delays.

> > >

> > > In the chart that you have put up, I observe the following:

> > >

> > > 1. Jupiter debilitated

> > > 2. Jupiter and Venus are combust

> > > 3. Venus is retrograde

> > > 4. 7L Mercury is in the 12th

> > > 5. Venus is in the 6th in Navamsha

> > >

> > > There are so many unfavourbale factors in the chart wrt to

> > > marriage.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > > --- anshupriya_nayak <anshupriya_nayak@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Thankyou Wendy !! If anyone can help me with my query, I

> > will

> > > > be

> > > > very greatful.

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > > A N

> > > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> > > > <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear A.N.,

> > > > >

> > > > > Forwarding this update to the list as you've sent it to

> > my

> > > > mailbox

> > > > in error.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > > jyotish-vidya

> > > > > ___

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > " anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak@>

> > > > > " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya@>

> > > > > Monday, October 22, 2007 5:08 PM

> > > > > Hello

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Wendy,

> > > > > Warm Regards ! I dont know if you remember

> > me,

> > > > but I

> > > > used

> > > > > to be active on this list in 2005. At that time I had

> > asked

> > > > you

> > > > > about analysing the chart of a native (Message # 154 and

> > > > 157)and

> > > > your

> > > > > reply is attached below. I thought I will appraise you

> > of

> > > > the latest

> > > > > developments which have happened in the last 2.5 years.

> > You

> > > > were

> > > > > correct in pointing out the obstacles as the native is

> > still

> > > > not

> > > > > married.

> > > > > He did get his time corrected to 9.51 AM which changes

> > his

> > > > D-9 lagna

> > > > > to Libra. At nearly 6 occassions, the native got good

> > > > matches which

> > > > > never materialised. I wanted to consult you on any

> > advice

> > > > which you

> > > > > would like to pass on at this point. Do you feel that

> > there

> > > > is any

> > > > > hope. When may marriage actually materialise for the

> > native.

> > > > > Please reply at convenience,

> > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > A N

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: Need help analysing

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear A N,

> > > > >

> > > > > As we know Saturn is the delaying planet and in certain

> > > > > circumstances can deny altogether the significations

> > he's

> > > > associated

> > > > > with. In this chart both significators of spouse (7th

> > lord

> > > > and

> > > > > Venus) are in sign of Rx Saturn who is tightly conjunct

> > > > Ketu...Ketu

> > > > > himself is responsible for

> > hindrance/restriction/separation

> > > > etc..

> > > > >

> > > > > There is also a harmful Dainya-Parivartana Yoga

> > (exchange of

> > > > > 12th/4th lords) which indirectly involves 7th lord, who

> > > > himself is

> > > > > inimicably placed in 12th, whilst Rx Venus is combust

> > 6th

> > > > lord

> > > > > Sun...a lot of obstacles here for the native.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > " anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak@>

> > > > > <jyotish-vidya >

> > > > > Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:35 AM

> > > > > [Norton AntiSpam] Need help

> > > > analysing

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello respected members,

> > > > > Below are the particulars of my cousin, whose chart

> > > > > I am currently studying.

> > > > >

> > > > > Male

> > > > > 31/1/74

> > > > > 09.50 AM

> > > > > Delhi

> > > > >

> > > > > Looking at the main chart and the Navamansha, I am not

> > able

> > > > to

> > > > > pin point any reason why the native is not married. Many

> > > > > favourable dasas have passed (Moon - Merc ). Can someone

> > > > help

> > > > > me decipher what I am overlooking here.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks a lot for your help,

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > A N

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hello Krishna,

That is a good point. Here I would request other learned

members to contribute their views.

Regards,

A N

jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

<krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear A N,

>

> You have raised some good points. Obviously, out of the two

> periods, the second one looks more favourable. No doubt. But,

> the question is what is the threshold level of favourable

> factors required to cross over the hurdle? If the first period

> provides enough push things can move in that period itself.

> Otherwise, the second one is definitely more favourbale.

> Actually, it is very difficult to come to a conclusion

> (specially with so many unfavourbale factors) on what is the

> threshold level of the push required for this chart.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

>

>

> --- anshupriya_nayak <anshupriya_nayak wrote:

>

> > Dear Krishna,

> > After Jupiter transits into Sagittarius there

> > are 3 factors favouring marriage.

> > a)Jupiter will aspect the 2nd house.

> > b)Jupiter aspects the dispositor of Mercury (which is Saturn).

> >

> > c)The native will be running a dasha favourable for marriage

> > (Mars-

> > Jupiter).

> >

> > OR

> >

> > Another possibility is when Jupiter will transit into

> > Aquarius,

> > 4 factors in favour of marriage fructifying at that time:

> > a) Jupiter will conjoin Mercury (lord of 7th house).

> > b) the native would have reached an age of 36, which will

> > end the debility of Jupiter.

> > c) Jupiter will be aspecting Saturn (dispositor of Mercury).

> > d) The native will be running a dasha favourable for marriage.

> > (Mars-Mercury).

> >

> > Which do you feel is stronger to bestow marriage.

> > In Ashtakvarga, Jupiter has 3 points in Saggitarius and 6 in

> > Aquarius.

> >

> > Regards,

> > A N

> >

> > jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy Seetharama

> >

> > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear A N,

> > >

> > > I am not sure if the rectification is correct. But, let me

> > not

> > > get into that detail now.

> > >

> > > As far as the timing of marriage is concerned, I feel that

> > > Mars-Jup period is favourable. Note that 7th lord Mercury

> > and

> > > Karaka Jupiter are both in the nakshatra of Mars. Mars

> > itself is

> > > in the second house of family (and own house).

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Krishna

> > >

> > >

> > > --- anshupriya_nayak <anshupriya_nayak@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Krishna,

> > > > Thaks for your inputs. One slight correction. Take the

> > time

> > > > of birth as 9.51 AM (31/01/74, Delhi).

> > > > Your observation in point 5 would change as Venus will

> > move to

> > > > 5th house in Navamsa, but Rahu-Ketu on the 7-1 axis in

> > > > Navamasa

> > > > confirm delay.

> > > > Obstacles have been plenty.

> > > >

> > > > My query was about timing the marriage. Will be greatful

> > on

> > > > any inputs.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > A N

> > > > jyotish-vidya , Krishnamurthy

> > Seetharama

> > > >

> > > > <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear A N,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sometime back, someone on this list pointed out that lot

> > of

> > > > > people born around 1973-74 have delayed marriages. At

> > that

> > > > time,

> > > > > no one concluded as to why this is happening. The case

> > you

> > > > have

> > > > > brought up also falls in this category.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have been thinking about the reasons for the same and

> > this

> > > > is

> > > > > what I could think of is Jupiter being debilitated

> > during

> > > > this

> > > > > time frame. Of course, this alone can not cause delays

> > in

> > > > > marriages. This is one adverse factor and in some

> > charts,

> > > > there

> > > > > could be added adverse factors causing the delays.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the chart that you have put up, I observe the

> > following:

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. Jupiter debilitated

> > > > > 2. Jupiter and Venus are combust

> > > > > 3. Venus is retrograde

> > > > > 4. 7L Mercury is in the 12th

> > > > > 5. Venus is in the 6th in Navamsha

> > > > >

> > > > > There are so many unfavourbale factors in the chart wrt

> > to

> > > > > marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Krishna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- anshupriya_nayak <anshupriya_nayak@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thankyou Wendy !! If anyone can help me with my query,

> > I

> > > > will

> > > > > > be

> > > > > > very greatful.

> > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > A N

> > > > > > jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> > > > > > <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear A.N.,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Forwarding this update to the list as you've sent it

> > to

> > > > my

> > > > > > mailbox

> > > > > > in error.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best Wishes,

> > > > > > > Mrs. Wendy

> > > > > > > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > > > > > > jyotish-vidya

> > > > > > > ___

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > " anshupriya_nayak " <anshupriya_nayak@>

> > > > > > > " Wendy Vasicek " <jyotishvidya@>

> > > > > > > Monday, October 22, 2007 5:08 PM

> > > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Wendy,

> > > > > > > Warm Regards ! I dont know if you

> > remember

> > > > me,

> > > > > > but I

> > > > > > used

> > > > > > > to be active on this list in 2005. At that time I

> > had

> > > > asked

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > about analysing the chart of a native (Message # 154

> > and

> > > > > > 157)and

> > > > > > your

> > > > > > > reply is attached below. I thought I will appraise

> > you

> > > > of

> > > > > > the latest

> > > > > > > developments which have happened in the last 2.5

> > years.

> > > > You

> > > > > > were

> > > > > > > correct in pointing out the obstacles as the native

> > is

> > > > still

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > married.

> > > > > > > He did get his time corrected to 9.51 AM which

> > changes

> > > > his

> > > > > > D-9 lagna

> > > > > > > to Libra. At nearly 6 occassions, the native got

> > good

> > > > > > matches which

> > > > > > > never materialised. I wanted to consult you on any

> > > > advice

> > > > > > which you

> > > > > > > would like to pass on at this point. Do you feel

> > that

> > > > there

> > > > > > is any

> > > > > > > hope. When may marriage actually materialise for the

> > > > native.

> > > > > > > Please reply at convenience,

> > > > > > > Best Regards,

> > > > > > > A N

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Re: Need help analysing

> > > > > > >

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Group,

 

I wish to write a few lines on this chart. If we closely examine the

chart, the debilitation of Jupiter assumes a greater importance as he

is not only the most benefic planet in any chart, but also in this

chart he is the Ascendant Lord. Jupiter improves his position in

Navamsa. His aspect on 7th house of marriage from the 11th house of

gains proves detrimental to the major signification of that house.

Even going by the rule, position of any planet in 11th tends to do

well may not be hold good in this case. Jupiter the lagna lord and

the Venus the 8th lord, both treat each other bitter enemies, who are

with the 6th lord in 11th house.

 

Secondly, so far as the marriage of the native is concerned, if we

examine the chart from Moon, Mars from the Ascendant aspects the 7th

house who also assumes the role of 8th lord here. If we see the

chart from Venus who is the significator for the issue under

consideration, the Sun who becomes the ruler of 8th house aspects the

7th house. The pattern of obstacles and the hindrances are getting

repeated again and again.

 

Thirdly, all the planets except Mars are placed in such a manner that

they do not tend to support the native in one way or the other. Sun

is placed in his great enemy's sign. Moon is in enemy's sign. So is

the case of Mercury, who rules the 7th house of marriage and the

fourth house of domestic happiness. Both Venus and Saturn are placed

in their neutral signs. The Mars who is the 2nd and 9th lord seems

to be a favourable planet in the whole chart since he rules the 2nd

and is in his own house from there he aspects his own house the 9th.

Further Mars, is with the 5th lord Moon who is waxing and

considerably away from Sun. Hence the Mars becomes quite powerful to

do anything to the native. But Mars is placed in the constellation

of Venus who is the 8th lord and is with Ascendant Lord, both are

combust in the house of gains. We have already seen the dignity of

Jupiter.

 

Finally, it is to be seen that how much the influence of Jupiter on

the seventh house in both, birth chart and Navamsa, is to materialize

the marriage for the native. As per the rules of Shadbala, Jupiter

has to give more of Kashtaphal than that of Ishtaphal in this chart.

 

Thanks and regards,

 

Viji

 

 

jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

<jyotishvidya wrote:

>

> Dear A.N.,

>

> Forwarding this update to the list as you've sent it to my mailbox

in error.

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

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Hello Viji,

Thanks for your views. Jupiter in Navamasa is in the 12th

house (Take the time of birth as 9.51 AM (31.01.74, New Delhi)).

There is no doubt about the obstacles and hindrances, but there are

silver linings in the chart, which confirm delay but not denial.

The moot point being taken up here is whether the upcoming dasha

of Mars- Jupiter will be strong enough to confer marriage or will

the native have to wait longer.

 

Regards,

A N

jyotish-vidya , " viji.selvi " <viji.selvi

wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> I wish to write a few lines on this chart. If we closely examine

the

> chart, the debilitation of Jupiter assumes a greater importance as

he

> is not only the most benefic planet in any chart, but also in this

> chart he is the Ascendant Lord. Jupiter improves his position in

> Navamsa. His aspect on 7th house of marriage from the 11th house of

> gains proves detrimental to the major signification of that

house.

> Even going by the rule, position of any planet in 11th tends to do

> well may not be hold good in this case. Jupiter the lagna lord and

> the Venus the 8th lord, both treat each other bitter enemies, who

are

> with the 6th lord in 11th house.

>

> Secondly, so far as the marriage of the native is concerned, if we

> examine the chart from Moon, Mars from the Ascendant aspects the

7th

> house who also assumes the role of 8th lord here. If we see the

> chart from Venus who is the significator for the issue under

> consideration, the Sun who becomes the ruler of 8th house aspects

the

> 7th house. The pattern of obstacles and the hindrances are getting

> repeated again and again.

>

> Thirdly, all the planets except Mars are placed in such a manner

that

> they do not tend to support the native in one way or the other.

Sun

> is placed in his great enemy's sign. Moon is in enemy's sign. So

is

> the case of Mercury, who rules the 7th house of marriage and the

> fourth house of domestic happiness. Both Venus and Saturn are

placed

> in their neutral signs. The Mars who is the 2nd and 9th lord

seems

> to be a favourable planet in the whole chart since he rules the 2nd

> and is in his own house from there he aspects his own house the

9th.

> Further Mars, is with the 5th lord Moon who is waxing and

> considerably away from Sun. Hence the Mars becomes quite powerful

to

> do anything to the native. But Mars is placed in the constellation

> of Venus who is the 8th lord and is with Ascendant Lord, both are

> combust in the house of gains. We have already seen the dignity

of

> Jupiter.

>

> Finally, it is to be seen that how much the influence of Jupiter on

> the seventh house in both, birth chart and Navamsa, is to

materialize

> the marriage for the native. As per the rules of Shadbala, Jupiter

> has to give more of Kashtaphal than that of Ishtaphal in this chart.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> Viji

>

>

> jyotish-vidya , " Wendy Vasicek "

> <jyotishvidya@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear A.N.,

> >

> > Forwarding this update to the list as you've sent it to my

mailbox

> in error.

> >

> > Best Wishes,

> > Mrs. Wendy

> > http://JyotishVidya.com

> > jyotish-vidya

> > ___

>

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Dear Shah

 

pls give ur place of birth

 

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

Vedic Astologer

Cell +91 98672 14103

(Mumbai,India)

 

 

 

 

spssearch <spssearch

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 14 December, 2007 6:09:43 AM

Hello

 

Hello,

 

I am born in 10 th may 1968 at 12.35am. I am widowed from last 9 years

and I want to know if I will get remarry again.

 

As, first time my in laws side cheated me and hide the fact that my

husband had a mental disease. Now, I am really looking to get someone

and have real marriage. I asked few before but haven't got a answer yet.

 

May be someone of you can help.

 

I would appreciate greatly if someone can guide me.

 

Thanks,

 

Shah

 

 

 

 

 

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My Name is sanjay sharma I am married for last 8 years and have one daughter

seven years age . We were looking for another child from last 5 years and in

between my wife conceived & abortion took place can i know when will my wife

conceive or are there any planetary affects which are allowing to hold pregnancy

.. We have visited lot of astrologers but no once can give correct remedy Some

said your jupiter power has been diminished hence it will take long time. But

how long since i have been waiting long previously.

 

I am enclosing my details & my wifes details if you can help me & guide me i

shall be greatful to you.

 

Name : Sanjay Sharma

Place of Birth : Pune

Date of Birth : 26-09-1969

Time : 03-15 AM

 

Wifes Details

Name : Chanchal Sharma

 

Place of Birth : Badaun , Uttarpradesh

 

Date of Birth : 22-06-1976

 

Time : 16.00 PM

 

 

 

 

I would appreciate greatly if you can guide me.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

SANJAY SHARMA

 

 

 

 

 

 

Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 14 December, 2007 10:45:36 AM

Re: Hello

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Shah

 

 

 

pls give ur place of birth

 

 

 

Haresh(Harry) Nathani

 

Vedic Astologer

 

Cell +91 98672 14103

 

(Mumbai,India)

 

 

 

 

 

spssearch <spssearch >

 

jyotish-vidya

 

Friday, 14 December, 2007 6:09:43 AM

 

Hello

 

 

 

Hello,

 

 

 

I am born in 10 th may 1968 at 12.35am. I am widowed from last 9 years

 

and I want to know if I will get remarry again.

 

 

 

As, first time my in laws side cheated me and hide the fact that my

 

husband had a mental disease. Now, I am really looking to get someone

 

and have real marriage. I asked few before but haven't got a answer yet.

 

 

 

May be someone of you can help.

 

 

 

I would appreciate greatly if someone can guide me.

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

Shah

 

 

 

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Dear Sanjay

 

Do prayers for shanti of rahu & mangal & then concieve a child. But u will hv to

take extra precaution, ur wife will not hv problems on miscarraige/abortion

 

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

Vedic Astologer

Cell +91 98672 14103

(Mumbai,India)

 

 

 

 

sanjay sharma <zangwing69

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 14 December, 2007 12:30:23 PM

Re: Hello

 

My Name is sanjay sharma I am married for last 8 years and have one daughter

seven years age . We were looking for another child from last 5 years and in

between my wife conceived & abortion took place can i know when will my wife

conceive or are there any planetary affects which are allowing to hold pregnancy

.. We have visited lot of astrologers but no once can give correct remedy Some

said your jupiter power has been diminished hence it will take long time. But

how long since i have been waiting long previously.

 

I am enclosing my details & my wifes details if you can help me & guide me i

shall be greatful to you.

 

Name : Sanjay Sharma

Place of Birth : Pune

Date of Birth : 26-09-1969

Time : 03-15 AM

 

Wifes Details

Name : Chanchal Sharma

 

Place of Birth : Badaun , Uttarpradesh

 

Date of Birth : 22-06-1976

 

Time : 16.00 PM

 

I would appreciate greatly if you can guide me.

 

Thanks,

 

SANJAY SHARMA

 

 

 

Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 >

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 14 December, 2007 10:45:36 AM

Re: Hello

 

Dear Shah

 

pls give ur place of birth

 

Haresh(Harry) Nathani

 

Vedic Astologer

 

Cell +91 98672 14103

 

(Mumbai,India)

 

 

 

spssearch <spssearch >

 

jyotish-vidya

 

Friday, 14 December, 2007 6:09:43 AM

 

Hello

 

Hello,

 

I am born in 10 th may 1968 at 12.35am. I am widowed from last 9 years

 

and I want to know if I will get remarry again.

 

As, first time my in laws side cheated me and hide the fact that my

 

husband had a mental disease. Now, I am really looking to get someone

 

and have real marriage. I asked few before but haven't got a answer yet.

 

May be someone of you can help.

 

I would appreciate greatly if someone can guide me.

 

Thanks,

 

Shah

 

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Dear Hareshji,

 

Place of birth: My place of birth is Mumbai, near prathna samaj (khetwadi),

400004.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Shah

 

 

 

 

 

 

" Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote:

Dear Shah

 

pls give ur place of birth

 

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

Vedic Astologer

Cell +91 98672 14103

(Mumbai,India)

 

 

spssearch <spssearch

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 14 December, 2007 6:09:43 AM

Hello

 

Hello,

 

I am born in 10 th may 1968 at 12.35am. I am widowed from last 9 years

and I want to know if I will get remarry again.

 

As, first time my in laws side cheated me and hide the fact that my

husband had a mental disease. Now, I am really looking to get someone

and have real marriage. I asked few before but haven't got a answer yet.

 

May be someone of you can help.

 

I would appreciate greatly if someone can guide me.

 

Thanks,

 

Shah

 

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Dear Harishji,

 

My place of birth is Mumbai, near Grant Road or Prathan Samaj.

 

My name is sapana suresh shah.

 

Thank you for your help.

 

Sapana

 

 

" Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote:

Dear Shah

 

pls give ur place of birth

 

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

Vedic Astologer

Cell +91 98672 14103

(Mumbai,India)

 

spssearch <spssearch

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 14 December, 2007 6:09:43 AM

Hello

 

Hello,

 

I am born in 10 th may 1968 at 12.35am. I am widowed from last 9 years

and I want to know if I will get remarry again.

 

As, first time my in laws side cheated me and hide the fact that my

husband had a mental disease. Now, I am really looking to get someone

and have real marriage. I asked few before but haven't got a answer yet.

 

May be someone of you can help.

 

I would appreciate greatly if someone can guide me.

 

Thanks,

 

Shah

 

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Dear Harry,

 

It would be beneficial to the group if you could give your reasoning behind

your predictions.

 

Best Wishes,

Mrs. Wendy

http://JyotishVidya.com

jyotish-vidya

___

 

 

-

" Haresh (Harry) Nathani " <haresh1405

<jyotish-vidya >

Friday, December 14, 2007 7:07 PM

Re: Hello

 

 

Dear Sanjay

 

Do prayers for shanti of rahu & mangal & then concieve a child. But u will

hv to take extra precaution, ur wife will not hv problems on

miscarraige/abortion

 

Haresh(Harry)Nathani

Vedic Astologer

Cell +91 98672 14103

(Mumbai,India)

 

 

 

 

sanjay sharma <zangwing69

jyotish-vidya

Friday, 14 December, 2007 12:30:23 PM

Re: Hello

 

My Name is sanjay sharma I am married for last 8 years and have one daughter

seven years age . We were looking for another child from last 5 years and in

between my wife conceived & abortion took place can i know when will my wife

conceive or are there any planetary affects which are allowing to hold

pregnancy . We have visited lot of astrologers but no once can give correct

remedy Some said your jupiter power has been diminished hence it will take

long time. But how long since i have been waiting long previously.

 

I am enclosing my details & my wifes details if you can help me & guide me i

shall be greatful to you.

 

Name : Sanjay Sharma

Place of Birth : Pune

Date of Birth : 26-09-1969

Time : 03-15 AM

 

Wifes Details

Name : Chanchal Sharma

 

Place of Birth : Badaun , Uttarpradesh

 

Date of Birth : 22-06-1976

 

Time : 16.00 PM

 

I would appreciate greatly if you can guide me.

 

Thanks,

 

SANJAY SHARMA

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Hi Vic,

 

well it is noce to see a good mixed bag of resources u have and are adding

more , hope this quest is fruitful and helps ur evolution and others around

u too benefit from it We all gorw from our day to day experiences and u are

apparently way ahead of many of us on the spiritual plane at least.

 

best wishes

 

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

 

> Hello all!

>

> I just d to this group today. I am a beginner and am looking

> forward to interacting with all of you. My name is either " Vic " or

> " Vraj Kishor " - whatever you like. I spent a lot of time as a

> Bramachary in ISKCON/Hare Krishna where I got good exposure to

> Sanskrit etc. In Rahu-Mercury I ran a school for studying Gita, Isa-

> Upanishad, and Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu of Rupa Goswami based on the

> Sankrit. Then in Rahu-Venus I got married. I have bad marital karma,

> but a great wife who has the ability to bend that karma and keep

> things together and auspicious for us. We're now together with two

> boys. One Scorpio Asc and one Pices Asc. I also spent a decade

> involved in professional punk-rock music (Rahu) in a band called

> " 108 " . This continues to this day.

>

> I work in computers, mainly programming and development of websites in

> PHP, with some sales.

>

> I'm just entering Jupiter-Mercury now, which I hope will be beneficial

> for quick assimilation of basic facts required for entry level

> proficiency into astrology.

>

> I'm Cap Asc, with Taurus moon.

>

> Again, looking forward to interacting with all of you.

>

> Yours,

> V

>

>

 

 

 

--

Thank you,

 

Prashantkumar

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Prashantji,

 

Thanks so much for your welcome message!

 

- Vic

 

On May 15, 2008, at 10:30 PM, astro desk wrote:

 

> Hi Vic,

>

> well it is noce to see a good mixed bag of resources u have and are

> adding

> more , hope this quest is fruitful and helps ur evolution and others

> around

> u too benefit from it We all gorw from our day to day experiences

> and u are

> apparently way ahead of many of us on the spiritual plane at least.

>

> best wishes

>

> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:38 AM, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:

>

> > Hello all!

> >

> > I just d to this group today. I am a beginner and am

> looking

> > forward to interacting with all of you. My name is either " Vic " or

> > " Vraj Kishor " - whatever you like. I spent a lot of time as a

> > Bramachary in ISKCON/Hare Krishna where I got good exposure to

> > Sanskrit etc. In Rahu-Mercury I ran a school for studying Gita, Isa-

> > Upanishad, and Bhakti Rasamrita Sindhu of Rupa Goswami based on the

> > Sankrit. Then in Rahu-Venus I got married. I have bad marital karma,

> > but a great wife who has the ability to bend that karma and keep

> > things together and auspicious for us. We're now together with two

> > boys. One Scorpio Asc and one Pices Asc. I also spent a decade

> > involved in professional punk-rock music (Rahu) in a band called

> > " 108 " . This continues to this day.

> >

> > I work in computers, mainly programming and development of

> websites in

> > PHP, with some sales.

> >

> > I'm just entering Jupiter-Mercury now, which I hope will be

> beneficial

> > for quick assimilation of basic facts required for entry level

> > proficiency into astrology.

> >

> > I'm Cap Asc, with Taurus moon.

> >

> > Again, looking forward to interacting with all of you.

> >

> > Yours,

> > V

> >

> >

>

> --

> Thank you,

>

> Prashantkumar

> --------

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

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Dear Lucy,

 

Welcome to the group. I am sure the list will be enriched by your

inputs.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

lucymontney wrote:

 

 

hi. This is Lucy from Houston.

just have defended the member Mr.Lalit here , who

i think is the owner of this group.

They were talking detrimentally about him in the Group

Vedic astrology, Mr BG Prashant and one Kishore Patnaik

and i just gave them the cold shoulder.

 

thanks for allowing me here.

 

Lucy.

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Hello Ashirwads, You are welcome to this forum. It is good to hear that you have downloaded KAS program and it is working. Similarly download the lessons and go through those lessons. Your doubt regarding the differences in chart from other programs will be clear. However it happens due to difference in ayanamsas. Here in this program different ayanamsa is taken which is known as KAY. Wish you all the best. Ramesh Mishraashirwads <ashirwads wrote: Hello all,Introduction.My name is Ashirwad Shetty.I am a new member in this group.I am an Engineer by profession, and am currently based in Seoul, Korea.I am fairly new to astrology,and my learning so far has not been in a structured manner.It is certainly not an easy task,given that it is a very vast subject and also the lack of cleary defined criteria.I therefore decieded to explore the Krushnas astakavarga, to try and figure out if one particular system can provide satisfactory answers, or solutions.I have downloaded the KAS2006v3.2.1 worksheet.To start with, would someone be kind enough to provide insight on the time zones used in the Natal entry data sheet and the default location sheet.I was born in Mangalore,India, and my default location would be Seoul.AST+4:00 gives the correst Natal chart but the Navamsa is different from the one

i have from other programs...also im getting some differences in my moon nakshatra.Thanks,Ashirwad

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hi nisha

how r u?

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batao?

 

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Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 11:56 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hi meha aap kya karte ho?

 

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Wednesday, 12 November, 2008, 6:45 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

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hi meha

 

i amsandy.

 

wel come to group

 

regards

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Insteat of messenger, I prefer to chat using the online GMail account.

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Which place in Punjab?

 

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Monday, 15 December, 2008, 3:25 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

hi i am monika

here is my detail, please send my horoscope

d.o.b sep,08,1987

time 12:10 am

Punjab (India)

father's name Sh. Surinder Kumar

mother's name Smt Balvir Kaur

 

 

 

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Hi Jack,

 

After reading your last post (November), my opinion is that your

timing may be off a bit.

 

If you're trying to accomplish an alchemy type ceremony using the

elements of astrology, if you aren't aware already (forgive my

obliqueness), use the cardinal points of a astrological chart.

 

- Fire: begins in the sign of Aries, rising out of the east.

- Earth: in the sign of Capricornous, at the midheaven of the world.

- Air: in the sign of Libra-setting in the west.

- Water: in the sign of Cancer, in the middle of the lower heaven.

 

Perform your ceremonies at each cardinal sign when the sun touches

their respective constellations, using sidereal data and finding your

points on the Earth according to the path of the sun, and you may

have better luck with your timing.

 

Good luck my friend and I trust your dream will manifest. Your focus

will always determine your reality. Blessings.

 

David

 

 

, JackMaker <oddwinn

wrote:

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> Hi,

> I'm Jack Maker, been studying sidereal astro for a few years here

in San Francisco.

> I have this idea for a film that involves sidereal astrology.

> It's a little bit far out, but I'd love to hear back from anyone

willing to read about it here:

>  

> http://alterman47.wordpress.com

>  

> Peace on Earth,

> ~JackM.

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