Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana 8 se 12 tak) Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada .. Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN CHHEDAN. Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. MAHAJAN , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Dear Kulbir, > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my > client to me just under general discussion. > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. > > Best Wishes, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur. > > , kulbir bance > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He said > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an upay. > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities > found some > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of > LK. I > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to bring > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so > many > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete, now > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > commentaries is > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sent from my mobile device > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Mahajan ji, my grandfather had it, many in our village still follow the tradition but both ears. In nath parampara it is both ears. Single ear in old people i have not seen yet. Regarding relations it was same in old days. just remember how many brothers did Ashoka kill for throne. Ajatshatru killed his own father Bimbusara. What happened to yadavs after krishan ji. However i agree with u that doing some upaya for rahu ketu does not gives a license to do unlawful activities. Shakespere says in king lear that we commit follies by our own hands and then blame sun moon stars for consequences. Visit any criminal court or police station, u will see 90% young boys wearing rings or stud in one year. Regards. Kulbir. On 2/23/09, heartzthief54 <heartzthief54 wrote: > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana > 8 se 12 tak) > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada > . > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN > CHHEDAN. > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj > wrote: >> >> Dear Kulbir, >> >> Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my >> client to me just under general discussion. >> >> I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears >> comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and >> hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). >> >> We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. >> >> Best Wishes, >> Vijay Goel >> Jaipur. >> >> , kulbir bance >> kulbirbance@ wrote: >> > >> > Vijay ji, >> > >> > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having >> > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. >> > >> > Kulbir. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: >> > > Respected Varunji, >> > > >> > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He > said >> > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some >> > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an > upay. >> > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was >> > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities >> found some >> > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. >> > > >> > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay >> > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of >> LK. I >> > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to > bring >> > > havoc instead of miracles. >> > > >> > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so >> many >> > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. >> > > >> > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete, > now >> > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable >> commentaries is >> > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. >> > > >> > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. >> > > >> > > Best Wishes, >> > > Vijay Goel >> > > Jaipur. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Sent from my mobile device >> > >> > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Res Mahajan ji U r absolutly right. there is a tradition of - KARN-VEDH- SANSKAAR as per Hindu religion.Agar kaan chhidwane se ketu disturb hotaa to hamaarey dharm granthon main KAVACH aur KUNDAL sabhi ki ahamiyat hee na rehti aur rishi-muni kabhi bhee iski izaazat na detey na hee ise SANSKAARON main shamil kartey.Gaur-talab hai ki dono hee kaan chhidvaaye jaane chahiye.Yah baat theek vaise hee hai ,jaise ki rozana snaan karne se koyee khaas faaydaa nazar nahi aata, lekin 5-7 din snaan na karne se nuksaan jaroor nazar aataa hai.Thanx for such views.Keep it up. With Regards Pt. Lalkitabee V.Shukla , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana > 8 se 12 tak) > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada > . > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN > CHHEDAN. > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > , kulbir bance > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He > said > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an > upay. > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities > > found some > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of > > LK. I > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to > bring > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so > > many > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete, > now > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > commentaries is > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Respected Mahajanji, Thanks for this wonderful post. " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) and 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation (izzat). 11th house gives prizes and honours. Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per LK. 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? Thanks & regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana > 8 se 12 tak) > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada > . > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN > CHHEDAN. > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. > > > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > , kulbir bance > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He > said > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an > upay. > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities > > found some > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of > > LK. I > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to > bring > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so > > many > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete, > now > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > commentaries is > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Guru Lalkitabee ji, is samskar ke liye upyukat umar kaun si hai. Kya kaan chedan ke baad inme sona har waqt rahna chahiye. Bachon ko zyadatar school iski izzazat nahi dete. NCC NDA CDS military jaise kain sthan hain jahan sona nahin pahan sakte. Regards. Kulbir. On 2/23/09, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Res Mahajan ji > U r absolutly right. there is a tradition of - KARN-VEDH- SANSKAAR as > per Hindu religion.Agar kaan chhidwane se ketu disturb hotaa to > hamaarey dharm granthon main KAVACH aur KUNDAL sabhi ki ahamiyat hee > na rehti aur rishi-muni kabhi bhee iski izaazat na detey na hee ise > SANSKAARON main shamil kartey.Gaur-talab hai ki dono hee kaan chhidvaaye > jaane chahiye.Yah baat theek vaise hee hai ,jaise ki rozana snaan karne se > koyee khaas faaydaa nazar nahi aata, lekin 5-7 din snaan na karne se nuksaan > jaroor nazar aataa hai.Thanx for such views.Keep it up. > With Regards > Pt. Lalkitabee > V.Shukla > , " heartzthief54 " > <heartzthief54 wrote: >> >> Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, >> >> Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na >> hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal >> jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal >> rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana >> 8 se 12 tak) >> >> Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege >> jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya >> iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua >> hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? >> >> Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam >> taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada >> . >> >> Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche >> rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee >> rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN >> CHHEDAN. >> >> Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation >> bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se >> puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho >> (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan >> karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur >> aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. >> >> MAHAJAN >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> >> wrote: >> > >> > Dear Kulbir, >> > >> > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my >> > client to me just under general discussion. >> > >> > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears >> > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and >> > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). >> > >> > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. >> > >> > Best Wishes, >> > Vijay Goel >> > Jaipur. >> > >> > , kulbir bance >> > kulbirbance@ wrote: >> > > >> > > Vijay ji, >> > > >> > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having >> > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. >> > > >> > > Kulbir. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: >> > > > Respected Varunji, >> > > > >> > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He >> said >> > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some >> > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an >> upay. >> > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was >> > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities >> > found some >> > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. >> > > > >> > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay >> > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of >> > LK. I >> > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to >> bring >> > > > havoc instead of miracles. >> > > > >> > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so >> > many >> > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. >> > > > >> > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete, >> now >> > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable >> > commentaries is >> > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. >> > > > >> > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. >> > > > >> > > > Best Wishes, >> > > > Vijay Goel >> > > > Jaipur. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Sent from my mobile device >> > > >> > >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Kulbir Jee, Mafi chahta hoon, lekin fir bhee mein apni bbat par kayam hoon ki kaan chhedan se ketu disturb nahi hoga, baki aapne jo example dee hain woh kisi dusre ko appeal karein to karein mujh ko inn mein dum nahi lagta.mein aapki iss baat se puree tarah sehmat hoon ki criminal courts or police station mein young boys ne kaan mein ring pehne hotey hain, lekin woh kiss dhatu ke hain woh bhee gaur karein, woh pure gold (shudh sona) nahi hota, woh sirf fashion ke liye hote hain, na ki ketu ke liye,. Dusri baat agar kaan chhedan se jail jane se bacha ja sakta to har criminal kaan chhedan karwa le, ya koyla jal pravah kar de taki koi kuchh bigad na sake. Upay apko crime ya logo ko dukh dene ka licence nahi dete. Upay agar aap beqasoor hain hai to hee aapki madad karenge warna nahi, ya upay karne se aapki soch bhee to badal sakti hai. Nath parmpara mein kaan chhedan ke baad nantiya nahi pehni jati balki mundra pehni jati hain, nantiya/murki aur mundra mein zameen aasman ka antar hai yeh aap jante hee honge.kaan chhedan ke baad apne nantiya pehnani hai na ki koi bhee sone(gold)ki vastu.aapne jo likha thaa ki mangal khana no 6 mein hoga uss baat se bhee mein sehmat nahi. LAL KITAB mein hee apko iss ka jawab mil jayega, kisi dusri udaharan se.LAL KITAB ke ani\usar aap jis jagah bhee chandi ya sone ka zikar aya hai uss jagah please app pure chandi/sona hee pehnaye/prayog karein. MAHAJAN. , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote:>> Mahajan ji, > > my grandfather had it, many in our village still follow> the tradition but both ears. In nath parampara it is both ears. Single> ear in old people i have not seen yet. Regarding relations it was same> in old days. just remember how many brothers did Ashoka kill for> throne. Ajatshatru killed his own father Bimbusara. What happened to> yadavs after krishan ji. However i agree with u that doing some upaya> for rahu ketu does not gives a license to do unlawful activities.> Shakespere says in king lear that we commit follies by our own hands> and then blame sun moon stars for consequences. Visit any criminal> court or police station, u will see 90% young boys wearing rings or> stud in one year. > > Regards. > > Kulbir.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/23/09, heartzthief54 heartzthief54 wrote:> > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee,> >> > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na> > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal> > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal> > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana> > 8 se 12 tak)> >> > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege> > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya> > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua> > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ?> >> > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam> > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada> > .> >> > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche> > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee> > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN> > CHHEDAN.> >> > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation> > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se> > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho> > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan> > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur> > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai.> >> > MAHAJAN> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Vijay Goel" goyalvj@> > wrote:> >>> >> Dear Kulbir,> >>> >> Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my> >> client to me just under general discussion.> >>> >> I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears> >> comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and> >> hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu).> >>> >> We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart.> >>> >> Best Wishes,> >> Vijay Goel> >> Jaipur.> >>> >> , kulbir bance> >> kulbirbance@ wrote:> >> >> >> > Vijay ji,> >> >> >> > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having> >> > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in.> >> >> >> > Kulbir.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > > Respected Varunji,> >> > >> >> > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He> > said> >> > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some> >> > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an> > upay.> >> > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was> >> > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities> >> found some> >> > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge.> >> > >> >> > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay> >> > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of> >> LK. I> >> > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to> > bring> >> > > havoc instead of miracles.> >> > >> >> > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so> >> many> >> > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book.> >> > >> >> > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete,> > now> >> > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable> >> commentaries is> >> > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way.> >> > >> >> > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group.> >> > >> >> > > Best Wishes,> >> > > Vijay Goel> >> > > Jaipur.> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> > --> >> > Sent from my mobile device> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> > -- > Sent from my mobile device> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Shukla Jee, Dhanyawad. Bahut Bahut Shukriya. Mahajan. , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee wrote: > > Res Mahajan ji > U r absolutly right. there is a tradition of - KARN-VEDH- SANSKAAR as > per Hindu religion.Agar kaan chhidwane se ketu disturb hotaa to > hamaarey dharm granthon main KAVACH aur KUNDAL sabhi ki ahamiyat hee > na rehti aur rishi-muni kabhi bhee iski izaazat na detey na hee ise > SANSKAARON main shamil kartey.Gaur-talab hai ki dono hee kaan chhidvaaye jaane chahiye.Yah baat theek vaise hee hai ,jaise ki rozana snaan karne se koyee khaas faaydaa nazar nahi aata, lekin 5-7 din snaan na karne se nuksaan jaroor nazar aataa hai.Thanx for such views.Keep it up. > With Regards > Pt. Lalkitabee > V.Shukla > , " heartzthief54 " > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana > > 8 se 12 tak) > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada > > . > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN > > CHHEDAN. > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my > > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He > > said > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an > > upay. > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities > > > found some > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of > > > LK. I > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to > > bring > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so > > > many > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete, > > now > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > > commentaries is > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Goel Jee, Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee mukroonga, Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam nahi kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan chhedan karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle prayog karein fir vishwas karein. Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta hoon)aap zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan chhedan karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh lein.HATH KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. MAHAJAN , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Respected Mahajanji,> > Thanks for this wonderful post.> > "Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai" Can you explain how ?> > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) and> 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation (izzat).> 11th house gives prizes and honours.> > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per LK.> 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing> (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ?> > Thanks & regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> > , "heartzthief54"> heartzthief54@ wrote:> >> > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee,> > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na> > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal> > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal> > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana> > 8 se 12 tak)> > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege> > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya> > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua> > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ?> > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam> > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada> > .> > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche> > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee> > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN> > CHHEDAN.> > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation> > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se> > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho> > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan> > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur> > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai.> > > > MAHAJAN> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Kulbir,> > >> > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my> > > client to me just under general discussion.> > >> > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears> > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and> > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu).> > >> > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart.> > >> > > Best Wishes,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > > , kulbir bance> > > kulbirbance@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Vijay ji,> > > >> > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having> > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in.> > > >> > > > Kulbir.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > Respected Varunji,> > > > >> > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He> > said> > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some> > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an> > upay.> > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was> > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities> > > found some> > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge.> > > > >> > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay> > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of> > > LK. I> > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to> > bring> > > > > havoc instead of miracles.> > > > >> > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so> > > many> > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book.> > > > >> > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete,> > now> > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable> > > commentaries is> > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way.> > > > >> > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group.> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > Sent from my mobile device> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Res Kulbir Ji Karn Vedh Sanskar can be done at the 10th .12th 16th day after the birthof kid.Or can be done during the age of 6th,7th & 8th month of kid.Insome concepts it can be done during the age of three to five years of child & wearing gold in it is also a part of this sanskar.In case of male kid ,an expert person shud pierce 1st the right ear & after that left year. In case of female kid --left year shud be pierced 1st after that right year. Sanskar is the introduction of sanskruti & our SANSKRUTI permits relaxation during critical circumstances.Lalkitab also explained the minimum limit of the days to wear gold in ear in same manner.So I think Kaan Chedan cant be a difficult remedy for anyone.If anyone cant wear Gold for remedial purpose ,he can put a tilak of saffron at same place of ears as per required period or regularly. Ab yah mat poochh lenaa ki Tilak kyon, itnaa to tumhain pataa hee hai. 1.Kaan chhidwa kar usmain Gold pehnana lalkitab ke anusar Upay hai, 2.Hindu culture ke mutabik ek umra main kaan chhidwana Sanskar hai, 3.Aajkal ek kaan chhidwaa kar ghoomna awaraa-gardi hai. 4.Sanskar bhawna pradhaan aur sanskruti ke mutabik hai. 5.Lalkitab ke Upay ke roop main BA_MAUKA koshish hai. 6.Faishon ke roop main mujhe nahi pataa ise kyaa kahaa ja saktaa hai. With Regards Pt. Lalkitabee V.Shukla , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Guru Lalkitabee ji, > > is samskar ke liye upyukat umar kaun si hai. Kya kaan chedan > ke baad inme sona har waqt rahna chahiye. Bachon ko zyadatar school > iski izzazat nahi dete. NCC NDA CDS military jaise kain sthan hain > jahan sona nahin pahan sakte. > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > > > On 2/23/09, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > > Res Mahajan ji > > U r absolutly right. there is a tradition of - KARN-VEDH- SANSKAAR as > > per Hindu religion.Agar kaan chhidwane se ketu disturb hotaa to > > hamaarey dharm granthon main KAVACH aur KUNDAL sabhi ki ahamiyat hee > > na rehti aur rishi-muni kabhi bhee iski izaazat na detey na hee ise > > SANSKAARON main shamil kartey.Gaur-talab hai ki dono hee kaan chhidvaaye > > jaane chahiye.Yah baat theek vaise hee hai ,jaise ki rozana snaan karne se > > koyee khaas faaydaa nazar nahi aata, lekin 5-7 din snaan na karne se nuksaan > > jaroor nazar aataa hai.Thanx for such views.Keep it up. > > With Regards > > Pt. Lalkitabee > > V.Shukla > > , " heartzthief54 " > > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > >> > >> Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > >> > >> Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai na > >> hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis saal > >> jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss saal > >> rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab hogi(khana > >> 8 se 12 tak) > >> > >> Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil jayege > >> jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) ya > >> iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua > >> hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > >> > >> Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein aam > >> taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee zyada > >> . > >> > >> Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke niche > >> rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek hee > >> rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN > >> CHHEDAN. > >> > >> Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation > >> bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se > >> puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho gaya ho > >> (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan > >> karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga aur > >> aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > >> > >> MAHAJAN > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Dear Kulbir, > >> > > >> > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by my > >> > client to me just under general discussion. > >> > > >> > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that ears > >> > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way and > >> > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > >> > > >> > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. > >> > > >> > Best Wishes, > >> > Vijay Goel > >> > Jaipur. > >> > > >> > , kulbir bance > >> > kulbirbance@ wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Vijay ji, > >> > > > >> > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > >> > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > >> > > > >> > > Kulbir. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > >> > > > Respected Varunji, > >> > > > > >> > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. He > >> said > >> > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted some > >> > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an > >> upay. > >> > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he was > >> > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities > >> > found some > >> > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. > >> > > > > >> > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any upay > >> > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part of > >> > LK. I > >> > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to > >> bring > >> > > > havoc instead of miracles. > >> > > > > >> > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, this so > >> > many > >> > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > >> > > > > >> > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost complete, > >> now > >> > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > >> > commentaries is > >> > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > >> > > > > >> > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. > >> > > > > >> > > > Best Wishes, > >> > > > Vijay Goel > >> > > > Jaipur. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Sent from my mobile device > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Respected Mahajanji, " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " abosulutely right, i admit this statement. I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the concept. In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting haldi on ears etc. ) Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai. As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab pranam karte hai Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Goel Jee, > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee mukroonga, > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam nahi > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan chhedan > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle prayog > karein fir vishwas karein. > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta hoon)aap > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB KO > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan chhedan > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh lein.HATH > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? > > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) and > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation (izzat). > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per LK. > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? > > > > Thanks & regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai > na > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis > saal > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss > saal > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab > hogi(khana > > > 8 se 12 tak) > > > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil > jayege > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) > ya > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein > aam > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee > zyada > > > . > > > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke > niche > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek > hee > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN > > > CHHEDAN. > > > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho > gaya ho > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga > aur > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by > my > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that > ears > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way > and > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. > He > > > said > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted > some > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an > > > upay. > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he > was > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities > > > > found some > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any > upay > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part > of > > > > LK. I > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to > > > bring > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, > this so > > > > many > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost > complete, > > > now > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > > > commentaries is > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Respected Vijay ji, You have said : “Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai.†This is not true. Lal Kitab does take into cognizance nakshatra also. “ shuru se akhir tak kul ka kul pukha [ pushya ] nakshatra mein banaya hua makan nihayat ummda va mubarak hoga†[ 1952 Urdu ed; page 1131 ] Regards, Varun Trivedi , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Respected Mahajanji,> > "LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL"> abosulutely right, i admit this statement.> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the> concept.> In our Agarwal family there "Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony" is called> 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic> ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting> haldi on ears etc. )> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap> bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe> hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja> jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai.> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat> traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska> matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai.> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo> Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat> nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh> visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai.> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and> have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house> benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get> reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab> pranam karte hai > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu.> > Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur> > > > , "heartzthief54"> heartzthief54@ wrote:> >> > Goel Jee,> > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee mukroonga,> > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam nahi> > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan chhedan> > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle prayog> > karein fir vishwas karein.> > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta hoon)aap> > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB KO> > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka> > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe> > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan chhedan> > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh lein.HATH> > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA.> > > > MAHAJAN> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Mahajanji,> > >> > > Thanks for this wonderful post.> > >> > > "Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai" Can you explain how ?> > >> > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) and> > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation (izzat).> > > 11th house gives prizes and honours.> > >> > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per LK.> > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing> > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ?> > >> > > Thanks & regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > > , "heartzthief54"> > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee,> > > >> > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai> > na> > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis> > saal> > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss> > saal> > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab> > hogi(khana> > > > 8 se 12 tak)> > > >> > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil> > jayege> > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950)> > ya> > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua> > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ?> > > >> > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein> > aam> > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee> > zyada> > > > .> > > >> > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke> > niche> > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek> > hee> > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN> > > > CHHEDAN.> > > >> > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation> > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se> > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho> > gaya ho> > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan> > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga> > aur> > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai.> > > >> > > > MAHAJAN> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Kulbir,> > > > >> > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by> > my> > > > > client to me just under general discussion.> > > > >> > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that> > ears> > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way> > and> > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu).> > > > >> > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart.> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > > , kulbir bance> > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Vijay ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having> > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in.> > > > > >> > > > > > Kulbir.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > Respected Varunji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend.> > He> > > > said> > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted> > some> > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an> > > > upay.> > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he> > was> > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities> > > > > found some> > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any> > upay> > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part> > of> > > > > LK. I> > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to> > > > bring> > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts,> > this so> > > > > many> > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost> > complete,> > > > now> > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable> > > > > commentaries is> > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Sent from my mobile device> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Respected Members, kaan chhedan ko lal kitab ke anusar bahut hi simple tarike se samjh sakte hai.sidhi se baat hai, kaan(ketu)+gold(jup)=GURU GADDI. ye jaroori nahi ki usko guru gaddi mile.magar ketu ko guru ki support jaroor milegi.magar har insaan ki apni grahon ki hasiyat se.dusri batt aap jis grah ki madad le rahe hai,jaise ki is case may guru,USKA B MAJBOOT HONA JAROORI HAI.YADI MAJBOOT NA HUA TO UTNA FYADA NAHI HOGA.is upay ke ek pehlu ko aur samjhna hoga isme ketu ko guru ki support de rahe hai.ketu yaani jhanda(flag).jiska jhanda jitna uncha hoga respect to hogi hi.mera khyal hai ki yahi karan ho sakta hai.mahajan ji,kulbir ji.aur goyal sahib aap samajh hi gaye honge.yaadi kisi paas koi aur logic ho to kripa kar baatane ki koshish kare. with regards kunwar vishal , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj wrote: > > Respected Mahajanji, > > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. > > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the > concept. > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting > haldi on ears etc. ) > > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. > > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. > > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai. > > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab > pranam karte hai > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. > > Regards, > Vijay Goel > Jaipur > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > Goel Jee, > > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee mukroonga, > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam nahi > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan chhedan > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle prayog > > karein fir vishwas karein. > > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta hoon)aap > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB KO > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan chhedan > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh lein.HATH > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > > > > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? > > > > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) and > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation (izzat). > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > > > > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per LK. > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > > > > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai > > na > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis > > saal > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss > > saal > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab > > hogi(khana > > > > 8 se 12 tak) > > > > > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil > > jayege > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950) > > ya > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > > > > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein > > aam > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee > > zyada > > > > . > > > > > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke > > niche > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek > > hee > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN > > > > CHHEDAN. > > > > > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho > > gaya ho > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga > > aur > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by > > my > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that > > ears > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way > > and > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend. > > He > > > > said > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted > > some > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an > > > > upay. > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he > > was > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities > > > > > found some > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any > > upay > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part > > of > > > > > LK. I > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to > > > > bring > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, > > this so > > > > > many > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost > > complete, > > > > now > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > > > > commentaries is > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Goel Jee & varun Jee, Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade gyata hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka na hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko padega. Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal sahi kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye hee maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste par le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke anusar). LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah hai ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene lag gaye hain. Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata hain, woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang karne se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi ki jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski aulad /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. Varun jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere paas origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. MAHAJAN , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Respected Mahajanji,> > "LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL"> abosulutely right, i admit this statement.> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the> concept.> In our Agarwal family there "Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony" is called> 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic> ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting> haldi on ears etc. )> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap> bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe> hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja> jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai.> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat> traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska> matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai.> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo> Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat> nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh> visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai.> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and> have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house> benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get> reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab> pranam karte hai > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu.> > Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur> > > > , "heartzthief54"> heartzthief54@ wrote:> >> > Goel Jee,> > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee mukroonga,> > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam nahi> > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan chhedan> > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle prayog> > karein fir vishwas karein.> > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta hoon)aap> > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB KO> > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka> > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe> > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan chhedan> > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh lein.HATH> > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA.> > > > MAHAJAN> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Mahajanji,> > >> > > Thanks for this wonderful post.> > >> > > "Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai" Can you explain how ?> > >> > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) and> > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation (izzat).> > > 11th house gives prizes and honours.> > >> > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per LK.> > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing> > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ?> > >> > > Thanks & regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > >> > > , "heartzthief54"> > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee,> > > >> > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota hai> > na> > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein jis> > saal> > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, uss> > saal> > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab> > hogi(khana> > > > 8 se 12 tak)> > > >> > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil> > jayege> > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein (1850-1950)> > ya> > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan hua> > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ?> > > >> > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin mein> > aam> > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se bhee> > zyada> > > > .> > > >> > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke> > niche> > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa ek> > hee> > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai KAAN> > > > CHHEDAN.> > > >> > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki reputation> > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us se> > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho> > gaya ho> > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan chhedan> > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee hoga> > aur> > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai.> > > >> > > > MAHAJAN> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Kulbir,> > > > >> > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was narrated by> > my> > > > > client to me just under general discussion.> > > > >> > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said that> > ears> > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some way> > and> > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu).> > > > >> > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the chart.> > > > >> > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > > , kulbir bance> > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Vijay ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having> > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in.> > > > > >> > > > > > Kulbir.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > Respected Varunji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his friend.> > He> > > > said> > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he consulted> > some> > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as an> > > > upay.> > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 days he> > was> > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police authorities> > > > > found some> > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his knowledge.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give any> > upay> > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical part> > of> > > > > LK. I> > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the power to> > > > bring> > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts,> > this so> > > > > many> > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost> > complete,> > > > now> > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable> > > > > commentaries is> > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this group.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --> > > > > > Sent from my mobile device> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Thankyou Varunji for the reference Great ! Vijay Goel , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Respected Vijay ji, > > > > You have said : > > > > “Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai.†> > > > > > This is not true. > > > > Lal Kitab does take into cognizance nakshatra also. > > > > > > “ shuru se akhir tak kul ka kul pukha [ pushya ] nakshatra mein > banaya hua makan nihayat ummda va mubarak hoga†[ 1952 Urdu ed; > page 1131 ] > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " > > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. > > > > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the > > concept. > > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called > > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic > > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting > > haldi on ears etc. ) > > > > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap > > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe > > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja > > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. > > > > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat > > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska > > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. > > > > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo > > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat > > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh > > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai. > > > > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and > > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house > > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get > > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab > > pranam karte hai > > > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. > > > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > Goel Jee, > > > > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee > mukroonga, > > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam > nahi > > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan > chhedan > > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle > prayog > > > karein fir vishwas karein. > > > > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta > hoon)aap > > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB > KO > > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka > > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe > > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan > chhedan > > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh > lein.HATH > > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > > > > > > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? > > > > > > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) > and > > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation > (izzat). > > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > > > > > > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per > LK. > > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing > > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > > > > > > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota > hai > > > na > > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein > jis > > > saal > > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, > uss > > > saal > > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab > > > hogi(khana > > > > > 8 se 12 tak) > > > > > > > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil > > > jayege > > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein > (1850-1950) > > > ya > > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan > hua > > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > > > > > > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin > mein > > > aam > > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se > bhee > > > zyada > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke > > > niche > > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa > ek > > > hee > > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai > KAAN > > > > > CHHEDAN. > > > > > > > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki > reputation > > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us > se > > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho > > > gaya ho > > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan > chhedan > > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee > hoga > > > aur > > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was > narrated by > > > my > > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said > that > > > ears > > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some > way > > > and > > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his > friend. > > > He > > > > > said > > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he > consulted > > > some > > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as > an > > > > > upay. > > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 > days he > > > was > > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police > authorities > > > > > > found some > > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give > any > > > upay > > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical > part > > > of > > > > > > LK. I > > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the > power to > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, > > > this so > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost > > > complete, > > > > > now > > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > > > > > commentaries is > > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Kunwar sahib, yeh jo gur gaddi wali baat aapne kahi badi poetic aur logical jaise lalkitab ke ek sirlekh jaisi. Bahut kam samay aise hote hain jab aise shabad nikalte hain. At least i am going to remember it for rest of my life. Regards. Kulbir. On 2/24/09, Vijay Goel <goyalvj wrote: > > > > Thankyou Varunji for the reference > > > > Great ! > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd wrote: >> >> >> Respected Vijay ji, >> >> >> >> You have said : >> >> >> >> “Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai.�� >> >> >> >> >> >> This is not true. >> >> >> >> Lal Kitab does take into cognizance nakshatra also. >> >> >> >> >> >> “ shuru se akhir tak kul ka kul pukha [ pushya ] nakshatra mein >> banaya hua makan nihayat ummda va mubarak hoga�� [ 1952 Urdu ed; >> page 1131 ] >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Varun Trivedi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> >> wrote: >> > >> > Respected Mahajanji, >> > >> > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " >> > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. >> > >> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the >> > concept. >> > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called >> > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic >> > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting >> > haldi on ears etc. ) >> > >> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap >> > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe >> > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja >> > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. >> > >> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat >> > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska >> > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. >> > >> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo >> > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat >> > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh >> > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai. >> > >> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and >> > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house >> > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get >> > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab >> > pranam karte hai >> > >> > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Vijay Goel >> > Jaipur >> > >> > >> > >> > , " heartzthief54 " >> > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> > > >> > > Goel Jee, >> > > >> > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee >> mukroonga, >> > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam >> nahi >> > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan >> chhedan >> > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle >> prayog >> > > karein fir vishwas karein. >> > > >> > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta >> hoon)aap >> > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB >> KO >> > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka >> > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe >> > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan >> chhedan >> > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh >> lein.HATH >> > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. >> > > >> > > MAHAJAN >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Respected Mahajanji, >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. >> > > > >> > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? >> > > > >> > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) >> and >> > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation >> (izzat). >> > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. >> > > > >> > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per >> LK. >> > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing >> > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks & regards, >> > > > Vijay Goel >> > > > Jaipur. >> > > > >> > > > , " heartzthief54 " >> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, >> > > > > >> > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota >> hai >> > > na >> > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein >> jis >> > > saal >> > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, >> uss >> > > saal >> > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab >> > > hogi(khana >> > > > > 8 se 12 tak) >> > > > > >> > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil >> > > jayege >> > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein >> (1850-1950) >> > > ya >> > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan >> hua >> > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? >> > > > > >> > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin >> mein >> > > aam >> > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se >> bhee >> > > zyada >> > > > > . >> > > > > >> > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke >> > > niche >> > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa >> ek >> > > hee >> > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai >> KAAN >> > > > > CHHEDAN. >> > > > > >> > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki >> reputation >> > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us >> se >> > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho >> > > gaya ho >> > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan >> chhedan >> > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee >> hoga >> > > aur >> > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. >> > > > > >> > > > > MAHAJAN >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > , " Vijay Goel " >> <goyalvj@> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was >> narrated by >> > > my >> > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said >> that >> > > ears >> > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some >> way >> > > and >> > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). >> > > > > > >> > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the >> chart. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Best Wishes, >> > > > > > Vijay Goel >> > > > > > Jaipur. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > , kulbir bance >> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vijay ji, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having >> > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kulbir. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: >> > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his >> friend. >> > > He >> > > > > said >> > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he >> consulted >> > > some >> > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as >> an >> > > > > upay. >> > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 >> days he >> > > was >> > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police >> authorities >> > > > > > found some >> > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his >> knowledge. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give >> any >> > > upay >> > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical >> part >> > > of >> > > > > > LK. I >> > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the >> power to >> > > > > bring >> > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, >> > > this so >> > > > > > many >> > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost >> > > complete, >> > > > > now >> > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable >> > > > > > commentaries is >> > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this >> group. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes, >> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel >> > > > > > > > Jaipur. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done for the a similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to get the poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison of the Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose piercing it is that of mercury. Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. The question being argued in the group is whether doing this upaya of ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it increases ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too. Yes it will, if The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will help the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? The Lal Kitab says : “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; brahaspati ka phal manda hoga†[ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter in the later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this upaya of getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. Regards, Varun Trivedi , "heartzthief54" <heartzthief54 wrote:>> Goel Jee> > Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye> > yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade gyata> hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri> samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka na> hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko padega.> > Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal sahi> kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye hee> maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste par> le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke> anusar).> > LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah hai> ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene lag> gaye hain.> > Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata hain,> woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab> graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang karne> se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay> hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi...........> > Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi ki> jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski aulad> /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega.> > Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. Varun> jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere paas> origional LAL KITAB nahi hai.> > MAHAJAN> , "Vijay Goel" goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > Respected Mahajanji,> >> > "LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL"> > abosulutely right, i admit this statement.> >> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the> > concept.> > In our Agarwal family there "Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony" is called> > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic> > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting> > haldi on ears etc. )> >> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap> > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe> > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja> > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai.> >> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat> > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska> > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai.> >> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo> > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat> > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh> > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai.> >> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and> > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house> > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get> > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab> > pranam karte hai > >> > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu.> >> > Regards,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur> >> >> >> > , "heartzthief54"> > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > >> > > Goel Jee,> > >> > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee> mukroonga,> > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam> nahi> > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan> chhedan> > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle> prayog> > > karein fir vishwas karein.> > >> > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta> hoon)aap> > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB> KO> > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka> > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe> > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan> chhedan> > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh> lein.HATH> > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA.> > >> > > MAHAJAN> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Vijay Goel" <goyalvj@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Mahajanji,> > > >> > > > Thanks for this wonderful post.> > > >> > > > "Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai" Can you explain how ?> > > >> > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary)> and> > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation> (izzat).> > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours.> > > >> > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per> LK.> > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing> > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ?> > > >> > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > > , "heartzthief54"> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee,> > > > >> > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota> hai> > > na> > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein> jis> > > saal> > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai,> uss> > > saal> > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab> > > hogi(khana> > > > > 8 se 12 tak)> > > > >> > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil> > > jayege> > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein> (1850-1950)> > > ya> > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan> hua> > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ?> > > > >> > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin> mein> > > aam> > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se> bhee> > > zyada> > > > > .> > > > >> > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke> > > niche> > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa> ek> > > hee> > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai> KAAN> > > > > CHHEDAN.> > > > >> > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki> reputation> > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us> se> > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho> > > gaya ho> > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan> chhedan> > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee> hoga> > > aur> > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai.> > > > >> > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Vijay Goel"> <goyalvj@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir,> > > > > >> > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was> narrated by> > > my> > > > > > client to me just under general discussion.> > > > > >> > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said> that> > > ears> > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some> way> > > and> > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu).> > > > > >> > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the> chart.> > > > > >> > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > >> > > > > > , kulbir bance> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vijay ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having> > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kulbir.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > Respected Varunji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his> friend.> > > He> > > > > said> > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he> consulted> > > some> > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as> an> > > > > upay.> > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3> days he> > > was> > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police> authorities> > > > > > found some> > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his> knowledge.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give> any> > > upay> > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical> part> > > of> > > > > > LK. I> > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the> power to> > > > > bring> > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts,> > > this so> > > > > > many> > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost> > > complete,> > > > > now> > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable> > > > > > commentaries is> > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this> group.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Thankyou Varunji, I was waiting for this reply Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! > > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done for the a > similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to get the > poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison of the > Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose piercing > it is that of mercury. > > > > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. > > > > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this upaya of > ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it increases > ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too. > > > > Yes it will, if > > > > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu > vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will help > the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. > > > > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? > > > > The Lal Kitab says : > > > > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale > gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; brahaspati ka > phal manda hoga†> > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] > > > > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter in the > later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this upaya of > getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter > beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > > > > Goel Jee > > > > Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye > > > > yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade > gyata > > hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri > > samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka > na > > hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko > padega. > > > > Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal > sahi > > kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye hee > > maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste par > > le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke > > anusar). > > > > LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah hai > > ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene lag > > gaye hain. > > > > Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata > hain, > > woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab > > graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang karne > > se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay > > hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... > > > > Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi > ki > > jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski > aulad > > /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. > > > > Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. Varun > > jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere > paas > > origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. > > > > MAHAJAN > > , " Vijay Goel " goyalvj@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " > > > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. > > > > > > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the > > > concept. > > > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called > > > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in > symbolic > > > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by > putting > > > haldi on ears etc. ) > > > > > > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap > > > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj > jathe > > > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja > > > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. > > > > > > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat > > > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska > > > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. > > > > > > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne > jo > > > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein > sehmat > > > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh > > > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili > hai. > > > > > > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and > > > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house > > > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get > > > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab > > > pranam karte hai > > > > > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Goel Jee, > > > > > > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee > > mukroonga, > > > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam > > nahi > > > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan > > chhedan > > > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle > > prayog > > > > karein fir vishwas karein. > > > > > > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta > > hoon)aap > > > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB > > KO > > > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane > ka > > > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda > rakhe > > > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan > > chhedan > > > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh > > lein.HATH > > > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > > > > > > > > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? > > > > > > > > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) > > and > > > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation > > (izzat). > > > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > > > > > > > > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per > > LK. > > > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing > > > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota > > hai > > > > na > > > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein > > jis > > > > saal > > > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori > hai, > > uss > > > > saal > > > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab > > > > hogi(khana > > > > > > 8 se 12 tak) > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log > mil > > > > jayege > > > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein > > (1850-1950) > > > > ya > > > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan > chhedan > > hua > > > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee > jin > > mein > > > > aam > > > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se > > bhee > > > > zyada > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat > ke > > > > niche > > > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi > thaa > > ek > > > > hee > > > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai > > KAAN > > > > > > CHHEDAN. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki > > reputation > > > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap > us > > se > > > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari > ho > > > > gaya ho > > > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan > > chhedan > > > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee > > hoga > > > > aur > > > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > <goyalvj@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was > > narrated by > > > > my > > > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said > > that > > > > ears > > > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in > some > > way > > > > and > > > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put > in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his > > friend. > > > > He > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he > > consulted > > > > some > > > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears > as > > an > > > > > > upay. > > > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 > > days he > > > > was > > > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police > > authorities > > > > > > > found some > > > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give > > any > > > > upay > > > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of > grammatical > > part > > > > of > > > > > > > LK. I > > > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the > > power to > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many > doubts, > > > > this so > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the > book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost > > > > complete, > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > > > > > > commentaries is > > > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Thankyou Mahajanji, I need you blessing also. I started reading Lal-kitab with the blessing of Seniors Shri Yograj Prabhakarji initiatios, Shri Ravinder Bhandariji motivation and Shri Bhooshan Priyaji LK grammer explanation series. Love and Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Goel Jee > > Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye > > yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade gyata > hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri > samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka na > hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko padega. > > Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal sahi > kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye hee > maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste par > le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke > anusar). > > LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah hai > ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene lag > gaye hain. > > Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata hain, > woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab > graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang karne > se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay > hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... > > Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi ki > jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski aulad > /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. > > Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. Varun > jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere paas > origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. > > MAHAJAN > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > wrote: > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " > > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. > > > > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the > > concept. > > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called > > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in symbolic > > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by putting > > haldi on ears etc. ) > > > > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap > > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj jathe > > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja > > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. > > > > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat > > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska > > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. > > > > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne jo > > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein sehmat > > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh > > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili hai. > > > > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and > > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house > > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get > > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab > > pranam karte hai > > > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. > > > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > Goel Jee, > > > > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee > mukroonga, > > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam > nahi > > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan > chhedan > > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle > prayog > > > karein fir vishwas karein. > > > > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta > hoon)aap > > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB > KO > > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane ka > > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda rakhe > > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan > chhedan > > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh > lein.HATH > > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " <goyalvj@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > > > > > > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? > > > > > > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) > and > > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation > (izzat). > > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > > > > > > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per > LK. > > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing > > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > > > > > > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota > hai > > > na > > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein > jis > > > saal > > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori hai, > uss > > > saal > > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab > > > hogi(khana > > > > > 8 se 12 tak) > > > > > > > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log mil > > > jayege > > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein > (1850-1950) > > > ya > > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan chhedan > hua > > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > > > > > > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee jin > mein > > > aam > > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se > bhee > > > zyada > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat ke > > > niche > > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi thaa > ek > > > hee > > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai > KAAN > > > > > CHHEDAN. > > > > > > > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki > reputation > > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap us > se > > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari ho > > > gaya ho > > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan > chhedan > > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee > hoga > > > aur > > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was > narrated by > > > my > > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said > that > > > ears > > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in some > way > > > and > > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his > friend. > > > He > > > > > said > > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he > consulted > > > some > > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears as > an > > > > > upay. > > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 > days he > > > was > > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police > authorities > > > > > > found some > > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give > any > > > upay > > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of grammatical > part > > > of > > > > > > LK. I > > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the > power to > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many doubts, > > > this so > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost > > > complete, > > > > > now > > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > > > > > > commentaries is > > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Varun ji, in punjab and haryana the golden ear rings are termed nantiyan. Is this related to anantiyan reffered by your goodself in an earlier message. Regards. Kulbir. On 2/24/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! > > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done for the a > similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to get the > poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison of the > Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose piercing > it is that of mercury. > > > > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. > > > > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this upaya of > ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it increases > ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too. > > > > Yes it will, if > > > > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu > vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will help > the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. > > > > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? > > > > The Lal Kitab says : > > > > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale > gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; brahaspati ka > phal manda hoga > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] > > > > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter in the > later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this upaya of > getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter > beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > <heartzthief54 wrote: >> >> Goel Jee >> >> Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye >> >> yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade > gyata >> hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri >> samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka > na >> hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko > padega. >> >> Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal > sahi >> kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye hee >> maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste par >> le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke >> anusar). >> >> LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah hai >> ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene lag >> gaye hain. >> >> Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata > hain, >> woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab >> graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang karne >> se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay >> hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... >> >> Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi > ki >> jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski > aulad >> /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. >> >> Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. Varun >> jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere > paas >> origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. >> >> MAHAJAN >> , " Vijay Goel " goyalvj@ >> wrote: >> > >> > Respected Mahajanji, >> > >> > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " >> > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. >> > >> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the >> > concept. >> > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called >> > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in > symbolic >> > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by > putting >> > haldi on ears etc. ) >> > >> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap >> > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj > jathe >> > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja >> > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. >> > >> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat >> > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska >> > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. >> > >> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne > jo >> > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein > sehmat >> > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh >> > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili > hai. >> > >> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and >> > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house >> > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get >> > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab >> > pranam karte hai >> > >> > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Vijay Goel >> > Jaipur >> > >> > >> > >> > , " heartzthief54 " >> > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> > > >> > > Goel Jee, >> > > >> > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee >> mukroonga, >> > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam >> nahi >> > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan >> chhedan >> > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle >> prayog >> > > karein fir vishwas karein. >> > > >> > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta >> hoon)aap >> > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB >> KO >> > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane > ka >> > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda > rakhe >> > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan >> chhedan >> > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh >> lein.HATH >> > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. >> > > >> > > MAHAJAN >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > , " Vijay Goel " > <goyalvj@> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Respected Mahajanji, >> > > > >> > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. >> > > > >> > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? >> > > > >> > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) >> and >> > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation >> (izzat). >> > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. >> > > > >> > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per >> LK. >> > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing >> > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks & regards, >> > > > Vijay Goel >> > > > Jaipur. >> > > > >> > > > , " heartzthief54 " >> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, >> > > > > >> > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota >> hai >> > > na >> > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein >> jis >> > > saal >> > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori > hai, >> uss >> > > saal >> > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab >> > > hogi(khana >> > > > > 8 se 12 tak) >> > > > > >> > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log > mil >> > > jayege >> > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein >> (1850-1950) >> > > ya >> > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan > chhedan >> hua >> > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? >> > > > > >> > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee > jin >> mein >> > > aam >> > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se >> bhee >> > > zyada >> > > > > . >> > > > > >> > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat > ke >> > > niche >> > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi > thaa >> ek >> > > hee >> > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai >> KAAN >> > > > > CHHEDAN. >> > > > > >> > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki >> reputation >> > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap > us >> se >> > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari > ho >> > > gaya ho >> > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan >> chhedan >> > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee >> hoga >> > > aur >> > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. >> > > > > >> > > > > MAHAJAN >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > , " Vijay Goel " >> <goyalvj@> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was >> narrated by >> > > my >> > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said >> that >> > > ears >> > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in > some >> way >> > > and >> > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). >> > > > > > >> > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the >> chart. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Best Wishes, >> > > > > > Vijay Goel >> > > > > > Jaipur. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > , kulbir bance >> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vijay ji, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having >> > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put > in. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kulbir. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: >> > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his >> friend. >> > > He >> > > > > said >> > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he >> consulted >> > > some >> > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears > as >> an >> > > > > upay. >> > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 >> days he >> > > was >> > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police >> authorities >> > > > > > found some >> > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his >> knowledge. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give >> any >> > > upay >> > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of > grammatical >> part >> > > of >> > > > > > LK. I >> > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the >> power to >> > > > > bring >> > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many > doubts, >> > > this so >> > > > > > many >> > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the > book. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost >> > > complete, >> > > > > now >> > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable >> > > > > > commentaries is >> > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this >> group. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes, >> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel >> > > > > > > > Jaipur. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Varun Ji, Dhanyawad................. discussion se kafi kuchh sikhne ko milta hai, shayad kaan chhedan par kafi kuchh likha ja chuka hai abb koi aur vishay par miltey hain....... ek baar fir se sab ka dhanyawad. Kulbir jee kee baat to reh hee gayee ki jab Mangal khana no 6 mein ho to ketu (bete)ko sonana pehnaye iss liye hee shayad kulbir jee ne shuru mein hee chetawani dee thee ki Mangal 6 mein hoga tabhi jail yatra huee hogi. Mein baar baar kehta raha ki yahan par Mangal khana no 6 na dekha jaye , Kulbir jee se phone par baat ho gayee thee aur woh samajh gaye, lekin baki log shayad uss baat ko na pakad baithe ki Mangal 6 mein ho to kaan chhedan na kiya jaye. Mangal jab khana no 6 mein ho to sirf bete ko sona pehnane se manahi hai, kripya yahan par bete ko Ketu(ear) na liya jaye. Agar aisa hua to jab Rahu khana no 7 mein ho to kya karenge....????? Kya bete ko ghar se nikal denge kyonki Rahu 7 wale ko KUTTA(dog) palne ki manahi hai. Jaisa ki sab jante hain Kutaa=Ketu. Iss liye hee mein baar baar kehta hoon ki LAL KITAB KO AASAN BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. Fir se sabka dhanyawad MAHAJAN , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd wrote:>> > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji,> > Aap ki aagya sar maathe !> > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done for the a> similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to get the> poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison of the> Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose piercing> it is that of mercury.> > > > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic.> > > > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this upaya of> ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it increases> ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too.> > > > Yes it will, if> > > > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu> vis-æamp;nbsp;-vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will help> the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory.> > > > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ?> > > > The Lal Kitab says :> > > > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale> gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; brahaspati ka> phal manda hogaâ€> > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ]> > > > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter in the> later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this upaya of> getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter> beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native.> > > > Regards,> > > > Varun Trivedi> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "heartzthief54"> heartzthief54@ wrote:> >> > Goel Jee> >> > Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye> >> > yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade> gyata> > hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri> > samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka> na> > hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko> padega.> >> > Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal> sahi> > kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye hee> > maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste par> > le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke> > anusar).> >> > LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah hai> > ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene lag> > gaye hain.> >> > Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata> hain,> > woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab> > graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang karne> > se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay> > hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi...........> >> > Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi> ki> > jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski> aulad> > /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega.> >> > Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. Varun> > jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere> paas> > origional LAL KITAB nahi hai.> >> > MAHAJAN> > , "Vijay Goel" goyalvj@> > wrote:> > >> > > Respected Mahajanji,> > >> > > "LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL"> > > abosulutely right, i admit this statement.> > >> > > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the> > > concept.> > > In our Agarwal family there "Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony" is called> > > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in> symbolic> > > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by> putting> > > haldi on ears etc. )> > >> > > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap> > > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj> jathe> > > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja> > > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai.> > >> > > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat> > > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska> > > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai.> > >> > > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne> jo> > > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein> sehmat> > > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh> > > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili> hai.> > >> > > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and> > > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house> > > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get> > > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab> > > pranam karte hai > > >> > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur> > >> > >> > >> > > , "heartzthief54"> > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Goel Jee,> > > >> > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee> > mukroonga,> > > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam> > nahi> > > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan> > chhedan> > > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle> > prayog> > > > karein fir vishwas karein.> > > >> > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta> > hoon)aap> > > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB> > KO> > > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane> ka> > > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda> rakhe> > > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan> > chhedan> > > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh> > lein.HATH> > > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA.> > > >> > > > MAHAJAN> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Vijay Goel"> <goyalvj@>> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Mahajanji,> > > > >> > > > > Thanks for this wonderful post.> > > > >> > > > > "Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai" Can you explain how ?> > > > >> > > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary)> > and> > > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation> > (izzat).> > > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours.> > > > >> > > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per> > LK.> > > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing> > > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ?> > > > >> > > > > Thanks & regards,> > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > Jaipur.> > > > >> > > > > , "heartzthief54"> > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee,> > > > > >> > > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota> > hai> > > > na> > > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein> > jis> > > > saal> > > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori> hai,> > uss> > > > saal> > > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab> > > > hogi(khana> > > > > > 8 se 12 tak)> > > > > >> > > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log> mil> > > > jayege> > > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein> > (1850-1950)> > > > ya> > > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan> chhedan> > hua> > > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ?> > > > > >> > > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee> jin> > mein> > > > aam> > > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se> > bhee> > > > zyada> > > > > > .> > > > > >> > > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat> ke> > > > niche> > > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi> thaa> > ek> > > > hee> > > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai> > KAAN> > > > > > CHHEDAN.> > > > > >> > > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki> > reputation> > > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap> us> > se> > > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari> ho> > > > gaya ho> > > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan> > chhedan> > > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee> > hoga> > > > aur> > > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai.> > > > > >> > > > > > MAHAJAN> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > , "Vijay Goel"> > <goyalvj@>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Kulbir,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was> > narrated by> > > > my> > > > > > > client to me just under general discussion.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said> > that> > > > ears> > > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in> some> > way> > > > and> > > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu).> > > > > > >> > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the> > chart.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > , kulbir bance> > > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Vijay ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having> > > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put> in.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Kulbir.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > Respected Varunji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his> > friend.> > > > He> > > > > > said> > > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he> > consulted> > > > some> > > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears> as> > an> > > > > > upay.> > > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3> > days he> > > > was> > > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police> > authorities> > > > > > > found some> > > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his> > knowledge.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give> > any> > > > upay> > > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of> grammatical> > part> > > > of> > > > > > > LK. I> > > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the> > power to> > > > > > bring> > > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many> doubts,> > > > this so> > > > > > > many> > > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the> book.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost> > > > complete,> > > > > > now> > > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable> > > > > > > commentaries is> > > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this> > group.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Best Wishes,> > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel> > > > > > > > > Jaipur.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 Dear Kulbir bhai, In western UP the golden rings worn in ears are known as " murki " . Almost every body upto my Grandfather's time had his ears pierced and wore thick and heavy murki. They were not thin wire stuff. Even now at the time of the Namkaran sanskar [ ceremony giving a name]a symbolical gesture is made as if the ears are being pierced for every child. Ananta, made of gold, is worn by ladies on the arm above the elbow. Men wear an Ananta made of cotton thread, on the day of Ananta chaturdashi [ Bhadra shukla 14 ]. This too is worn on the arm above the elbow. Regards, Varun Trivedi , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Varun ji, > > in punjab and haryana the golden ear rings are termed > nantiyan. Is this related to anantiyan reffered by your goodself in an > earlier message. > > Regards. > > Kulbir. > > > On 2/24/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > > > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > > > Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! > > > > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done for the a > > similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to get the > > poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison of the > > Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose piercing > > it is that of mercury. > > > > > > > > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. > > > > > > > > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this upaya of > > ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it increases > > ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too. > > > > > > > > Yes it will, if > > > > > > > > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu > > vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will help > > the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. > > > > > > > > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab says : > > > > > > > > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale > > gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; brahaspati ka > > phal manda hoga > > > > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] > > > > > > > > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter in the > > later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this upaya of > > getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter > > beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > >> > >> Goel Jee > >> > >> Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye > >> > >> yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade > > gyata > >> hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri > >> samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka > > na > >> hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko > > padega. > >> > >> Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal > > sahi > >> kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye hee > >> maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste par > >> le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke > >> anusar). > >> > >> LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah hai > >> ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene lag > >> gaye hain. > >> > >> Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata > > hain, > >> woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab > >> graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang karne > >> se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay > >> hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... > >> > >> Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi > > ki > >> jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski > > aulad > >> /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. > >> > >> Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. Varun > >> jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere > > paas > >> origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. > >> > >> MAHAJAN > >> , " Vijay Goel " goyalvj@ > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Respected Mahajanji, > >> > > >> > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " > >> > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. > >> > > >> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand the > >> > concept. > >> > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called > >> > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in > > symbolic > >> > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by > > putting > >> > haldi on ears etc. ) > >> > > >> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. Aap > >> > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj > > jathe > >> > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja > >> > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. > >> > > >> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat > >> > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska > >> > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. > >> > > >> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji ne > > jo > >> > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein > > sehmat > >> > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki yeh > >> > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili > > hai. > >> > > >> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises and > >> > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third house > >> > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get > >> > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko sab > >> > pranam karte hai > >> > > >> > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Vijay Goel > >> > Jaipur > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > , " heartzthief54 " > >> > heartzthief54@ wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Goel Jee, > >> > > > >> > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee > >> mukroonga, > >> > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat kaam > >> nahi > >> > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan > >> chhedan > >> > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle > >> prayog > >> > > karein fir vishwas karein. > >> > > > >> > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta > >> hoon)aap > >> > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL KITAB > >> KO > >> > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane > > ka > >> > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda > > rakhe > >> > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan > >> chhedan > >> > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh > >> lein.HATH > >> > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > >> > > > >> > > MAHAJAN > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > , " Vijay Goel " > > <goyalvj@> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Respected Mahajanji, > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > >> > > > > >> > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how ? > >> > > > > >> > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house (primary) > >> and > >> > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation > >> (izzat). > >> > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > >> > > > > >> > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as per > >> LK. > >> > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way piercing > >> > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How ? > >> > > > > >> > > > Thanks & regards, > >> > > > Vijay Goel > >> > > > Jaipur. > >> > > > > >> > > > --- In , " heartzthief54 " > >> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb hota > >> hai > >> > > na > >> > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal mein > >> jis > >> > > saal > >> > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori > > hai, > >> uss > >> > > saal > >> > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat kharab > >> > > hogi(khana > >> > > > > 8 se 12 tak) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log > > mil > >> > > jayege > >> > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein > >> (1850-1950) > >> > > ya > >> > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan > > chhedan > >> hua > >> > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee > > jin > >> mein > >> > > aam > >> > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se > >> bhee > >> > > zyada > >> > > > > . > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat > > ke > >> > > niche > >> > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi > > thaa > >> ek > >> > > hee > >> > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai > >> KAAN > >> > > > > CHHEDAN. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki > >> reputation > >> > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb aap > > us > >> se > >> > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat bari > > ho > >> > > gaya ho > >> > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan > >> chhedan > >> > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa hee > >> hoga > >> > > aur > >> > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > MAHAJAN > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > >> <goyalvj@> > >> > > > > wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was > >> narrated by > >> > > my > >> > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he said > >> that > >> > > ears > >> > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in > > some > >> way > >> > > and > >> > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the > >> chart. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Best Wishes, > >> > > > > > Vijay Goel > >> > > > > > Jaipur. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > , kulbir bance > >> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Vijay ji, > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > >> > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put > > in. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Kulbir. > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > >> > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his > >> friend. > >> > > He > >> > > > > said > >> > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he > >> consulted > >> > > some > >> > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his ears > > as > >> an > >> > > > > upay. > >> > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 > >> days he > >> > > was > >> > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police > >> authorities > >> > > > > > found some > >> > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his > >> knowledge. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to give > >> any > >> > > upay > >> > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of > > grammatical > >> part > >> > > of > >> > > > > > LK. I > >> > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the > >> power to > >> > > > > bring > >> > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many > > doubts, > >> > > this so > >> > > > > > many > >> > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the > > book. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is almost > >> > > complete, > >> > > > > now > >> > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write explainable > >> > > > > > commentaries is > >> > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this > >> group. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > >> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > >> > > > > > > > Jaipur. > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 Respected Mahajan ji, Sure it has been a very informative exchange of information and views. I too am grateful to every one participating in this discussion. Regards, Varun Trivedi , " heartzthief54 " <heartzthief54 wrote: > > Varun Ji, > > Dhanyawad................. discussion se kafi kuchh sikhne ko milta hai, > shayad kaan chhedan par kafi kuchh likha ja chuka hai abb koi aur vishay > par miltey hain....... > > ek baar fir se sab ka dhanyawad. > > Kulbir jee kee baat to reh hee gayee ki jab Mangal khana no 6 mein ho to > ketu (bete)ko sonana pehnaye iss liye hee shayad kulbir jee ne shuru > mein hee chetawani dee thee ki Mangal 6 mein hoga tabhi jail yatra huee > hogi. > > Mein baar baar kehta raha ki yahan par Mangal khana no 6 na dekha jaye , > Kulbir jee se phone par baat ho gayee thee aur woh samajh gaye, lekin > baki log shayad uss baat ko na pakad baithe ki Mangal 6 mein ho to kaan > chhedan na kiya jaye. > > Mangal jab khana no 6 mein ho to sirf bete ko sona pehnane se manahi > hai, kripya yahan par bete ko Ketu(ear) na liya jaye. Agar aisa hua to > jab Rahu khana no 7 mein ho to kya karenge....????? > > Kya bete ko ghar se nikal denge kyonki Rahu 7 wale ko KUTTA(dog) palne > ki manahi hai. Jaisa ki sab jante hain Kutaa=Ketu. > > Iss liye hee mein baar baar kehta hoon ki LAL KITAB KO AASAN BANAYE NA > KI MUSHKIL. > > Fir se sabka dhanyawad > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > , " varun_trvd " > <varun_trvd@> wrote: > > > > > > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > > > > Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! > > > > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done for the > a > > similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to get the > > poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison of > the > > Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose > piercing > > it is that of mercury. > > > > > > > > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. > > > > > > > > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this upaya of > > ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it increases > > ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native > too. > > > > > > > > Yes it will, if > > > > > > > > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu > > vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will > help > > the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. > > > > > > > > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? > > > > > > > > The Lal Kitab says : > > > > > > > > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale > > gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; brahaspati ka > > phal manda hoga†> > > > > > > > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] > > > > > > > > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter in the > > later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this upaya of > > getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter > > beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > Goel Jee > > > > > > Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye > > > > > > yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut bade > > gyata > > > hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein meri > > > samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le saka > > na > > > hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko > > padega. > > > > > > Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki chal > > sahi > > > kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss liye > hee > > > maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi raste > par > > > le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL KITAB ke > > > anusar). > > > > > > LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi vajah > hai > > > ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad lene > lag > > > gaye hain. > > > > > > Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke gyata > > hain, > > > woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise Ketu sab > > > graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal rang > karne > > > se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay > > > hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... > > > > > > Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay nahi > > ki > > > jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to uski > > aulad > > > /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. > > > > > > Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. > Varun > > > jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki mere > > paas > > > origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > , " Vijay Goel " goyalvj@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > > > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " > > > > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. > > > > > > > > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to undertand > the > > > > concept. > > > > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is called > > > > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in > > symbolic > > > > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by > > putting > > > > haldi on ears etc. ) > > > > > > > > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta hu. > Aap > > > > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu ulaj > > jathe > > > > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi samja > > > > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. > > > > > > > > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo baat > > > > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to iska > > > > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. > > > > > > > > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected Varunji > ne > > jo > > > > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se mein > > sehmat > > > > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. Halaki > yeh > > > > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi mili > > hai. > > > > > > > > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person rises > and > > > > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third > house > > > > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get > > > > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj ko > sab > > > > pranam karte hai > > > > > > > > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " heartzthief54 " > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Goel Jee, > > > > > > > > > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee > > > mukroonga, > > > > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi galat > kaam > > > nahi > > > > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap kaan > > > chhedan > > > > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki nahi,pehle > > > prayog > > > > > karein fir vishwas karein. > > > > > > > > > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee janta > > > hoon)aap > > > > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, LAL > KITAB > > > KO > > > > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki niklane > > ka > > > > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur sharda > > rakhe > > > > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee kaan > > > chhedan > > > > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh > > > lein.HATH > > > > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > <goyalvj@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Mahajanji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain how > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house > (primary) > > > and > > > > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives reputation > > > (izzat). > > > > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears as > per > > > LK. > > > > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way > piercing > > > > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? How > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & regards, > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , " heartzthief54 " > > > > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu disturb > hota > > > hai > > > > > na > > > > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. Asal > mein > > > jis > > > > > saal > > > > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna zaroori > > hai, > > > uss > > > > > saal > > > > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat > kharab > > > > > hogi(khana > > > > > > > 8 se 12 tak) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi aise log > > mil > > > > > jayege > > > > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein > > > (1850-1950) > > > > > ya > > > > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan > > chhedan > > > hua > > > > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti thee > > jin > > > mein > > > > > aam > > > > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya iss se > > > bhee > > > > > zyada > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee chhat > > ke > > > > > niche > > > > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa nahi > > thaa > > > ek > > > > > hee > > > > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan yehi hai > > > KAAN > > > > > > > CHHEDAN. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur aapki > > > reputation > > > > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai abb > aap > > us > > > se > > > > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh baizzat > bari > > ho > > > > > gaya ho > > > > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe kaan > > > chhedan > > > > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein izafa > hee > > > hoga > > > > > aur > > > > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MAHAJAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > > > <goyalvj@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was > > > narrated by > > > > > my > > > > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, he > said > > > that > > > > > ears > > > > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu in > > some > > > way > > > > > and > > > > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having the > > > chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > > > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vijay ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be having > > > > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold put > > in. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kulbir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident of his > > > friend. > > > > > He > > > > > > > said > > > > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he > > > consulted > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce his > ears > > as > > > an > > > > > > > upay. > > > > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and within 2-3 > > > days he > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police > > > authorities > > > > > > > > found some > > > > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his > > > knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid to > give > > > any > > > > > upay > > > > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of > > grammatical > > > part > > > > > of > > > > > > > > LK. I > > > > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has the > > > power to > > > > > > > bring > > > > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many > > doubts, > > > > > this so > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming the > > book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is > almost > > > > > complete, > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write > explainable > > > > > > > > commentaries is > > > > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in this > > > group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 Thanx mahajan ji and varun ji, if u allow one last querry on this topic. On page 383 42 edition arun samhita it is written mangal nek - kaan ka kundal. It is about some signs on the palm. What is the relation of mangal nek with kaan ka kundal. Respect and regards. Kulbir. On 2/25/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > In western UP the golden rings worn in ears are known as " murki " . > Almost every body upto my Grandfather's time had his ears pierced > and wore thick and heavy murki. They were not thin wire stuff. > > Even now at the time of the Namkaran sanskar [ ceremony giving a > name]a symbolical gesture is made as if the ears are being pierced > for every child. > > Ananta, made of gold, is worn by ladies on the arm above the elbow. > Men wear an Ananta made of cotton thread, on the day of Ananta > chaturdashi [ Bhadra shukla 14 ]. This too is worn on the arm above > the elbow. > > Regards, > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Varun ji, >> >> in punjab and haryana the golden ear rings are termed >> nantiyan. Is this related to anantiyan reffered by your goodself > in an >> earlier message. >> >> Regards. >> >> Kulbir. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/24/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: >> > >> > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, >> > >> > Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! >> > >> > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done > for the a >> > similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to > get the >> > poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison > of the >> > Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose > piercing >> > it is that of mercury. >> > >> > >> > >> > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. >> > >> > >> > >> > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this > upaya of >> > ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it > increases >> > ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too. >> > >> > >> > >> > Yes it will, if >> > >> > >> > >> > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu >> > vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will > help >> > the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. >> > >> > >> > >> > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? >> > >> > >> > >> > The Lal Kitab says : >> > >> > >> > >> > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale >> > gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; > brahaspati ka >> > phal manda hoga > >> > >> > >> > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] >> > >> > >> > >> > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter > in the >> > later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this > upaya of >> > getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter >> > beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > >> > >> > Varun Trivedi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , " heartzthief54 " >> > <heartzthief54@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Goel Jee >> >> >> >> Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye >> >> >> >> yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut > bade >> > gyata >> >> hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein > meri >> >> samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le > saka >> > na >> >> hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko >> > padega. >> >> >> >> Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki > chal >> > sahi >> >> kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss > liye hee >> >> maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi > raste par >> >> le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL > KITAB ke >> >> anusar). >> >> >> >> LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi > vajah hai >> >> ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad > lene lag >> >> gaye hain. >> >> >> >> Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke > gyata >> > hain, >> >> woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise > Ketu sab >> >> graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal > rang karne >> >> se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay >> >> hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... >> >> >> >> Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay > nahi >> > ki >> >> jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to > uski >> > aulad >> >> /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. >> >> >> >> Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. > Varun >> >> jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki > mere >> > paas >> >> origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. >> >> >> >> MAHAJAN >> >> , " Vijay Goel " > goyalvj@ >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Respected Mahajanji, >> >> > >> >> > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " >> >> > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. >> >> > >> >> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to > undertand the >> >> > concept. >> >> > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is > called >> >> > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in >> > symbolic >> >> > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by >> > putting >> >> > haldi on ears etc. ) >> >> > >> >> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta > hu. Aap >> >> > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu > ulaj >> > jathe >> >> > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi > samja >> >> > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. >> >> > >> >> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo > baat >> >> > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to > iska >> >> > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. >> >> > >> >> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected > Varunji ne >> > jo >> >> > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se > mein >> > sehmat >> >> > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. > Halaki yeh >> >> > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi > mili >> > hai. >> >> > >> >> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person > rises and >> >> > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third > house >> >> > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get >> >> > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj > ko sab >> >> > pranam karte hai >> >> > >> >> > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > Vijay Goel >> >> > Jaipur >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > , " heartzthief54 " >> >> > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > Goel Jee, >> >> > > >> >> > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee >> >> mukroonga, >> >> > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi > galat kaam >> >> nahi >> >> > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap > kaan >> >> chhedan >> >> > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki > nahi,pehle >> >> prayog >> >> > > karein fir vishwas karein. >> >> > > >> >> > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee > janta >> >> hoon)aap >> >> > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, > LAL KITAB >> >> KO >> >> > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki > niklane >> > ka >> >> > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur > sharda >> > rakhe >> >> > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee > kaan >> >> chhedan >> >> > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh >> >> lein.HATH >> >> > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. >> >> > > >> >> > > MAHAJAN >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > , " Vijay Goel " >> > <goyalvj@> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Respected Mahajanji, >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain > how ? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house > (primary) >> >> and >> >> > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives > reputation >> >> (izzat). >> >> > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears > as per >> >> LK. >> >> > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way > piercing >> >> > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? > How ? >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Thanks & regards, >> >> > > > Vijay Goel >> >> > > > Jaipur. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > --- In > , " heartzthief54 " >> >> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu > disturb hota >> >> hai >> >> > > na >> >> > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. > Asal mein >> >> jis >> >> > > saal >> >> > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna > zaroori >> > hai, >> >> uss >> >> > > saal >> >> > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat > kharab >> >> > > hogi(khana >> >> > > > > 8 se 12 tak) >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi > aise log >> > mil >> >> > > jayege >> >> > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein >> >> (1850-1950) >> >> > > ya >> >> > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan >> > chhedan >> >> hua >> >> > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti > thee >> > jin >> >> mein >> >> > > aam >> >> > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya > iss se >> >> bhee >> >> > > zyada >> >> > > > > . >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee > chhat >> > ke >> >> > > niche >> >> > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa > nahi >> > thaa >> >> ek >> >> > > hee >> >> > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan > yehi hai >> >> KAAN >> >> > > > > CHHEDAN. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur > aapki >> >> reputation >> >> > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai > abb aap >> > us >> >> se >> >> > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh > baizzat bari >> > ho >> >> > > gaya ho >> >> > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe > kaan >> >> chhedan >> >> > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein > izafa hee >> >> hoga >> >> > > aur >> >> > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > MAHAJAN >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > , " Vijay Goel " >> >> <goyalvj@> >> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir, >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was >> >> narrated by >> >> > > my >> >> > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, > he said >> >> that >> >> > > ears >> >> > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu > in >> > some >> >> way >> >> > > and >> >> > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having > the >> >> chart. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Best Wishes, >> >> > > > > > Vijay Goel >> >> > > > > > Jaipur. >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > , kulbir > bance >> >> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Vijay ji, >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be > having >> >> > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold > put >> > in. >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Kulbir. >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident > of his >> >> friend. >> >> > > He >> >> > > > > said >> >> > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he >> >> consulted >> >> > > some >> >> > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce > his ears >> > as >> >> an >> >> > > > > upay. >> >> > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and > within 2-3 >> >> days he >> >> > > was >> >> > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police >> >> authorities >> >> > > > > > found some >> >> > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his >> >> knowledge. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid > to give >> >> any >> >> > > upay >> >> > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of >> > grammatical >> >> part >> >> > > of >> >> > > > > > LK. I >> >> > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has > the >> >> power to >> >> > > > > bring >> >> > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many >> > doubts, >> >> > > this so >> >> > > > > > many >> >> > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming > the >> > book. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is > almost >> >> > > complete, >> >> > > > > now >> >> > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write > explainable >> >> > > > > > commentaries is >> >> > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent > way. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in > this >> >> group. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes, >> >> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel >> >> > > > > > > > Jaipur. >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > -- >> >> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 Res Kulbir Ji If u read in 1942 urdu edition at page no. 253 in chapter MANGAL NEK,BRIHASPAT KHANA NO.1 & Arun Sanhita's 1942 edition at page no 273, u will find the clear view about this context. Pujya Pnadit ji described only three signs in palm of this combination. SHANKH, CHAKKAR AUR ANKUSH ( KAAN KA DAYRA KUNDAL).I think this word ANKUSH explained with bracketed words, had been written to clear the image of ANKUSH , in hilly laguages it pronunciates AANKAS also. In fact KUNDAL always stays in hanging order in the ear of anyone, same as ANKUSH at the ear of elephant.(Ankush contains a specific pointed sharp rode with a curved portion used for hanging it from the ear of the elephant) With Regards Pt. Lalkitabee V.Shukla , kulbir bance <kulbirbance wrote: > > Thanx mahajan ji and varun ji, > > if u allow one last querry on this > topic. On page 383 42 edition arun samhita it is written mangal nek - > kaan ka kundal. It is about some signs on the palm. What is the > relation of mangal nek with kaan ka kundal. > > Respect and regards. > > Kulbir. > > > > > On 2/25/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Kulbir bhai, > > > > In western UP the golden rings worn in ears are known as " murki " . > > Almost every body upto my Grandfather's time had his ears pierced > > and wore thick and heavy murki. They were not thin wire stuff. > > > > Even now at the time of the Namkaran sanskar [ ceremony giving a > > name]a symbolical gesture is made as if the ears are being pierced > > for every child. > > > > Ananta, made of gold, is worn by ladies on the arm above the elbow. > > Men wear an Ananta made of cotton thread, on the day of Ananta > > chaturdashi [ Bhadra shukla 14 ]. This too is worn on the arm above > > the elbow. > > > > Regards, > > > > Varun Trivedi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , kulbir bance > > <kulbirbance@> wrote: > >> > >> Varun ji, > >> > >> in punjab and haryana the golden ear rings are termed > >> nantiyan. Is this related to anantiyan reffered by your goodself > > in an > >> earlier message. > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> Kulbir. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 2/24/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: > >> > > >> > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, > >> > > >> > Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! > >> > > >> > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done > > for the a > >> > similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to > > get the > >> > poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison > > of the > >> > Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose > > piercing > >> > it is that of mercury. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this > > upaya of > >> > ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it > > increases > >> > ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes it will, if > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu > >> > vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will > > help > >> > the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The Lal Kitab says : > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale > >> > gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; > > brahaspati ka > >> > phal manda hoga > > >> > > >> > > >> > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter > > in the > >> > later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this > > upaya of > >> > getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter > >> > beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Varun Trivedi > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > , " heartzthief54 " > >> > <heartzthief54@> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Goel Jee > >> >> > >> >> Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye > >> >> > >> >> yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut > > bade > >> > gyata > >> >> hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein > > meri > >> >> samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le > > saka > >> > na > >> >> hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko > >> > padega. > >> >> > >> >> Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki > > chal > >> > sahi > >> >> kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss > > liye hee > >> >> maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi > > raste par > >> >> le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL > > KITAB ke > >> >> anusar). > >> >> > >> >> LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi > > vajah hai > >> >> ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad > > lene lag > >> >> gaye hain. > >> >> > >> >> Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke > > gyata > >> > hain, > >> >> woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise > > Ketu sab > >> >> graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal > > rang karne > >> >> se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay > >> >> hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... > >> >> > >> >> Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay > > nahi > >> > ki > >> >> jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to > > uski > >> > aulad > >> >> /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. > >> >> > >> >> Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. > > Varun > >> >> jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki > > mere > >> > paas > >> >> origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. > >> >> > >> >> MAHAJAN > >> >> , " Vijay Goel " > > goyalvj@ > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Respected Mahajanji, > >> >> > > >> >> > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " > >> >> > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. > >> >> > > >> >> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to > > undertand the > >> >> > concept. > >> >> > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is > > called > >> >> > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in > >> > symbolic > >> >> > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by > >> > putting > >> >> > haldi on ears etc. ) > >> >> > > >> >> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta > > hu. Aap > >> >> > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu > > ulaj > >> > jathe > >> >> > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi > > samja > >> >> > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. > >> >> > > >> >> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo > > baat > >> >> > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to > > iska > >> >> > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. > >> >> > > >> >> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected > > Varunji ne > >> > jo > >> >> > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se > > mein > >> > sehmat > >> >> > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. > > Halaki yeh > >> >> > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi > > mili > >> > hai. > >> >> > > >> >> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person > > rises and > >> >> > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third > > house > >> >> > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get > >> >> > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj > > ko sab > >> >> > pranam karte hai > >> >> > > >> >> > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > Vijay Goel > >> >> > Jaipur > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > , " heartzthief54 " > >> >> > heartzthief54@ wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Goel Jee, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee > >> >> mukroonga, > >> >> > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi > > galat kaam > >> >> nahi > >> >> > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap > > kaan > >> >> chhedan > >> >> > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki > > nahi,pehle > >> >> prayog > >> >> > > karein fir vishwas karein. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee > > janta > >> >> hoon)aap > >> >> > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, > > LAL KITAB > >> >> KO > >> >> > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki > > niklane > >> > ka > >> >> > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur > > sharda > >> > rakhe > >> >> > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee > > kaan > >> >> chhedan > >> >> > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh > >> >> lein.HATH > >> >> > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > MAHAJAN > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > , " Vijay Goel " > >> > <goyalvj@> > >> >> > > wrote: > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Respected Mahajanji, > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain > > how ? > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house > > (primary) > >> >> and > >> >> > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives > > reputation > >> >> (izzat). > >> >> > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears > > as per > >> >> LK. > >> >> > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way > > piercing > >> >> > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? > > How ? > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Thanks & regards, > >> >> > > > Vijay Goel > >> >> > > > Jaipur. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > --- In > > , " heartzthief54 " > >> >> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu > > disturb hota > >> >> hai > >> >> > > na > >> >> > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. > > Asal mein > >> >> jis > >> >> > > saal > >> >> > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna > > zaroori > >> > hai, > >> >> uss > >> >> > > saal > >> >> > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat > > kharab > >> >> > > hogi(khana > >> >> > > > > 8 se 12 tak) > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi > > aise log > >> > mil > >> >> > > jayege > >> >> > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein > >> >> (1850-1950) > >> >> > > ya > >> >> > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan > >> > chhedan > >> >> hua > >> >> > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti > > thee > >> > jin > >> >> mein > >> >> > > aam > >> >> > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya > > iss se > >> >> bhee > >> >> > > zyada > >> >> > > > > . > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee > > chhat > >> > ke > >> >> > > niche > >> >> > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa > > nahi > >> > thaa > >> >> ek > >> >> > > hee > >> >> > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan > > yehi hai > >> >> KAAN > >> >> > > > > CHHEDAN. > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur > > aapki > >> >> reputation > >> >> > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai > > abb aap > >> > us > >> >> se > >> >> > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh > > baizzat bari > >> > ho > >> >> > > gaya ho > >> >> > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe > > kaan > >> >> chhedan > >> >> > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein > > izafa hee > >> >> hoga > >> >> > > aur > >> >> > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > MAHAJAN > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > , " Vijay Goel " > >> >> <goyalvj@> > >> >> > > > > wrote: > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir, > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was > >> >> narrated by > >> >> > > my > >> >> > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, > > he said > >> >> that > >> >> > > ears > >> >> > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu > > in > >> > some > >> >> way > >> >> > > and > >> >> > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having > > the > >> >> chart. > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Best Wishes, > >> >> > > > > > Vijay Goel > >> >> > > > > > Jaipur. > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > , kulbir > > bance > >> >> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Vijay ji, > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be > > having > >> >> > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold > > put > >> > in. > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > Kulbir. > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: > >> >> > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident > > of his > >> >> friend. > >> >> > > He > >> >> > > > > said > >> >> > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he > >> >> consulted > >> >> > > some > >> >> > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce > > his ears > >> > as > >> >> an > >> >> > > > > upay. > >> >> > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and > > within 2-3 > >> >> days he > >> >> > > was > >> >> > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police > >> >> authorities > >> >> > > > > > found some > >> >> > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his > >> >> knowledge. > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid > > to give > >> >> any > >> >> > > upay > >> >> > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of > >> > grammatical > >> >> part > >> >> > > of > >> >> > > > > > LK. I > >> >> > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has > > the > >> >> power to > >> >> > > > > bring > >> >> > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many > >> > doubts, > >> >> > > this so > >> >> > > > > > many > >> >> > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming > > the > >> > book. > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is > > almost > >> >> > > complete, > >> >> > > > > now > >> >> > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write > > explainable > >> >> > > > > > commentaries is > >> >> > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent > > way. > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in > > this > >> >> group. > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > >> >> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel > >> >> > > > > > > > Jaipur. > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > -- > >> >> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> Sent from my mobile device > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 25, 2009 Thanx guru ji, now its all clear. Lots of respect. Kulbir. On 2/25/09, lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Res Kulbir Ji > If u read in 1942 urdu edition at page no. 253 in chapter MANGAL > NEK,BRIHASPAT KHANA NO.1 & Arun Sanhita's 1942 edition at page no 273, > u will find the clear view about this context. Pujya Pnadit ji > described only three signs in palm of this combination. SHANKH, > CHAKKAR AUR ANKUSH ( KAAN KA DAYRA KUNDAL).I think this word ANKUSH > explained with bracketed words, had been written to clear the image of > ANKUSH , in hilly laguages it pronunciates AANKAS also. In fact KUNDAL > always stays in hanging order in the ear of anyone, same as ANKUSH at > the ear of elephant.(Ankush contains a specific pointed sharp rode > with a curved portion used for hanging it from the ear of the elephant) > With Regards > Pt. Lalkitabee > V.Shukla > , kulbir bance > <kulbirbance wrote: >> >> Thanx mahajan ji and varun ji, >> >> if u allow one last querry on this >> topic. On page 383 42 edition arun samhita it is written mangal nek - >> kaan ka kundal. It is about some signs on the palm. What is the >> relation of mangal nek with kaan ka kundal. >> >> Respect and regards. >> >> Kulbir. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/25/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote: >> > Dear Kulbir bhai, >> > >> > In western UP the golden rings worn in ears are known as " murki " . >> > Almost every body upto my Grandfather's time had his ears pierced >> > and wore thick and heavy murki. They were not thin wire stuff. >> > >> > Even now at the time of the Namkaran sanskar [ ceremony giving a >> > name]a symbolical gesture is made as if the ears are being pierced >> > for every child. >> > >> > Ananta, made of gold, is worn by ladies on the arm above the elbow. >> > Men wear an Ananta made of cotton thread, on the day of Ananta >> > chaturdashi [ Bhadra shukla 14 ]. This too is worn on the arm above >> > the elbow. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Varun Trivedi >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > , kulbir bance >> > <kulbirbance@> wrote: >> >> >> >> Varun ji, >> >> >> >> in punjab and haryana the golden ear rings are termed >> >> nantiyan. Is this related to anantiyan reffered by your goodself >> > in an >> >> earlier message. >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Kulbir. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/24/09, varun_trvd <varun_trvd@> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Aadarneeya Mahajan ji, >> >> > >> >> > Aap ki aagya sar maathe ! >> >> > >> >> > The upaya of getting the ears pierced [ kaan chhedan ] is done >> > for the a >> >> > similar purpose as is done the nose piercing. Both are done to >> > get the >> >> > poison drained out. In the case of ear-piercing it is the poison >> > of the >> >> > Ketu which is being drained away, where as in the case of nose >> > piercing >> >> > it is that of mercury. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Therefore the upaya is done when Ketu is adjudged malefic. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The question being argued in the group is whether doing this >> > upaya of >> >> > ear-piercing would affect Jupiter beneficially such that it >> > increases >> >> > ‘ izzat aur shauhrat’ name and the fame of the native too. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Yes it will, if >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The Jupiter is adversely affected by the placement of the Ketu >> >> > vis-à -vis the Jupiter then the Ketu upaya of ear piercing will >> > help >> >> > the Jupiter. And the Jupiter will regain its glory. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > How and when does the ketu affect the Jupiter adversely ? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > The Lal Kitab says : >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > “ jab brahaspati aur ketu dono alahdah alahdah hon, ketu pahale >> >> > gharon mein ho aur brahaspati baad ke gharon mein ho ; >> > brahaspati ka >> >> > phal manda hoga > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > [ 1952 urdu ed ; page 244 ] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Therefore if the ketu is in the earlier houses and the Jupiter >> > in the >> >> > later houses, and the Ketu is adjudged as malefic, then this >> > upaya of >> >> > getting the ears pierced would definitely affect the Jupiter >> >> > beneficially leading to the name and fame of the native. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Regards, >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Varun Trivedi >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > , " heartzthief54 " >> >> > <heartzthief54@> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Goel Jee >> >> >> >> >> >> Ek sadhe sab sadhe, sab sadhe sab jaye >> >> >> >> >> >> yehi baat sab par lagoo hoti hai, aap vedic jyotish ke bahut >> > bade >> >> > gyata >> >> >> hain yeh aapki mail se pata chalta thaa, lekin woh sab batein >> > meri >> >> >> samajh se bahar kee thee, iss liye na to mein unn mein hissa le >> > saka >> >> > na >> >> >> hee utne intrest se padh paya jitna ki koi vedic ka jankar usko >> >> > padega. >> >> >> >> >> >> Ketu kee khasiyat hai ki jab woh darust ho jayega sab graho ki >> > chal >> >> > sahi >> >> >> kar dega, isko aap ketu ke chapter mein padh sakte hain. iss >> > liye hee >> >> >> maine ooper yehi likha hai ki ek sadhe..... aap ketu ko sahi >> > raste par >> >> >> le ayen sab grah sahi ho jayenge, aisa mera vichar hai (LAL >> > KITAB ke >> >> >> anusar). >> >> >> >> >> >> LAL KITAB ke mamooli se upay hee zindgi bana dete hain, yehi >> > vajah hai >> >> >> ki vedic ke jankar bhee upay batate samay LAL KITAB kee madad >> > lene lag >> >> >> gaye hain. >> >> >> >> >> >> Varun jee ko iss liye sambodhit kiya hai ki woh LAL KITAB ke >> > gyata >> >> > hain, >> >> >> woh hee shayad ketu ka chapter nikal kar bata dein ki kaise >> > Ketu sab >> >> >> graho ko sahi raste par laga deta hai. Ek chhoti c goli lal >> > rang karne >> >> >> se sab graho ko sahi raste par le aati hai(yeh bhee Ketu ka upay >> >> >> hai),yani ki Ketu sahi to sab grah sahi........... >> >> >> >> >> >> Aap ketu ko sadhe sab apne aap sadh jayenge. Baki aisa koi upay >> > nahi >> >> > ki >> >> >> jo criminal ya galat aadmi ko saza se bacha paye, woh nahi to >> > uski >> >> > aulad >> >> >> /vansh ko uska phal bhogna hee padega. >> >> >> >> >> >> Baki aapki shhan mein koi gustakhi huee ho to mafi chahta hoon. >> > Varun >> >> >> jee ke jawab ka intzar rahega. meri mazboori sabko pata hai ki >> > mere >> >> > paas >> >> >> origional LAL KITAB nahi hai. >> >> >> >> >> >> MAHAJAN >> >> >> , " Vijay Goel " >> > goyalvj@ >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Respected Mahajanji, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > " LAL KITAB KO SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL " >> >> >> > abosulutely right, i admit this statement. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I am not doubting on this remedy. I am just trying to >> > undertand the >> >> >> > concept. >> >> >> > In our Agarwal family there " Karn-Nak Chhedan ceremony " is >> > called >> >> >> > 'PAROJAN'. and it is must. I also had the karn chhedan but in >> >> > symbolic >> >> >> > ways (nowadays boys karn chhedan is done in a sysbolic ways by >> >> > putting >> >> >> > haldi on ears etc. ) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Mahajan ji mein to sirf aap se LK style se hi samajna chahta >> > hu. Aap >> >> >> > bilkul sahi kehte hai ki traditional jyotishi jesse mein hu >> > ulaj >> >> > jathe >> >> >> > hai. Isliye meri koshish yahi kai ki LK ko LK ki hadh se hi >> > samja >> >> >> > jai, jyada traditional concept nahi lagaya jai. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Lekin ek baat ko mein jarur manta hu ki jo baat LK kahegi wo >> > baat >> >> >> > traditional jyotish mein bi sahi hoyegi. Agar mat-bhed hai to >> > iska >> >> >> > matlab ki hamari samajne mein kahi galti hai. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Yehi baat dhyan mein rakte hua meri samaj mein respected >> > Varunji ne >> >> > jo >> >> >> > Moon Nakshatra balance se 35 sala calculation ki hai us se >> > mein >> >> > sehmat >> >> >> > nahi hu. Kyoki LK nakshatra ki baat to karta hi nahi hai. >> > Halaki yeh >> >> >> > visay research ka mudda hai aur Varunji ko kuch safalta bhi >> > mili >> >> > hai. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > As per traditional concept if 3rd house is strong, person >> > rises and >> >> >> > have gains with self efforts in his life. So if we make third >> > house >> >> >> > benefic and strong through LK concept , he will definately get >> >> >> > reputation. person is like a rising sun, aur chadte hua suraj >> > ko sab >> >> >> > pranam karte hai >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Mein aap se purn sehmat hu. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Regards, >> >> >> > Vijay Goel >> >> >> > Jaipur >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > , " heartzthief54 " >> >> >> > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Goel Jee, >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Maine jo kuchh bhee likha hai uss se mukar nahi raha na hee >> >> >> mukroonga, >> >> >> > > Izzat mein izafa hota ka matlab hai ki, jab aap ne koi >> > galat kaam >> >> >> nahi >> >> >> > > kiya fir bhee yash na mile to? to insan kya kare tab aap >> > kaan >> >> >> chhedan >> >> >> > > karwa kar dekhe, fir mere ko bataye ki farak pada ki >> > nahi,pehle >> >> >> prayog >> >> >> > > karein fir vishwas karein. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > Mein vedic ke baare kuchh nahi janta(bahut thoda sa hee >> > janta >> >> >> hoon)aap >> >> >> > > zyada jante hain iss liye LAL KITAB mein ulajh jate hai, >> > LAL KITAB >> >> >> KO >> >> >> > > SIMPLE BANAYE NA KI MUSHKIL. varna aise ulajh jayenge ki >> > niklane >> >> > ka >> >> >> > > rasta hee nahi milega, jo likha hai uss par vishvas aur >> > sharda >> >> > rakhe >> >> >> > > result achha hee milega.Agar yakeen na ho to aap apne hee >> > kaan >> >> >> chhedan >> >> >> > > karwa kar uss mein pure gold kee nantiya dharan kar ke dekh >> >> >> lein.HATH >> >> >> > > KANGAN KO AARSI KYA PADE LIKHE KO PHARSI KYA. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > MAHAJAN >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > , " Vijay Goel " >> >> > <goyalvj@> >> >> >> > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Respected Mahajanji, >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Thanks for this wonderful post. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > " Kaan chhedan se izzat me ijafa hota hai " Can you explain >> > how ? >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > I think as per traditional astrology,it is 10th house >> > (primary) >> >> >> and >> >> >> > > > 7th house (10th to 10th is secondary) which gives >> > reputation >> >> >> (izzat). >> >> >> > > > 11th house gives prizes and honours. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Ear (Kaan) comes under 3rd house, Ketu is karak for ears >> > as per >> >> >> LK. >> >> >> > > > 3rd house is 6th from 10th house, so is it in some way >> > piercing >> >> >> > > > (chhedan) is removing obstacle and enemies of 10th house? >> > How ? >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > Thanks & regards, >> >> >> > > > Vijay Goel >> >> >> > > > Jaipur. >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > > --- In >> > , " heartzthief54 " >> >> >> > > > heartzthief54@ wrote: >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Goel Jee & Kulbir Jee, >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Mera apna vichar hai ki kan chhedan se na to ketu >> > disturb hota >> >> >> hai >> >> >> > > na >> >> >> > > > > hee aisee koi ghatna hoti hai ki jail yatra ho jaye. >> > Asal mein >> >> >> jis >> >> >> > > saal >> >> >> > > > > jail yatra huee uss saal ka varshphal chart dekhna >> > zaroori >> >> > hai, >> >> >> uss >> >> >> > > saal >> >> >> > > > > rahu aur budh 8-12 mein hone chahiye ya dono ki haalat >> > kharab >> >> >> > > hogi(khana >> >> >> > > > > 8 se 12 tak) >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Agar aap gaur karein to aapko apne aaspaas hee kafi >> > aise log >> >> > mil >> >> >> > > jayege >> >> >> > > > > jinoh ne kaan chhedan karwa rakha hai.pehle zamane mein >> >> >> (1850-1950) >> >> >> > > ya >> >> >> > > > > iss se bhee pehle samay mein aap dekhe ki har ek ka kaan >> >> > chhedan >> >> >> hua >> >> >> > > > > hota thaa. gaur kiya ki KYON ? >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Takriban har aadmi ki 4 se lekar 8 tak aulad hua karti >> > thee >> >> > jin >> >> >> mein >> >> >> > > aam >> >> >> > > > > taur par 50% male hua karti thee meanz 3 ya 4 bete ya >> > iss se >> >> >> bhee >> >> >> > > zyada >> >> >> > > > > . >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Aaj 2 bhai hain aur dono mein nahi bantee, dono ek hee >> > chhat >> >> > ke >> >> >> > > niche >> >> >> > > > > rehte hain(mazboori) lekin rasoi alag hai. pehle aisa >> > nahi >> >> > thaa >> >> >> ek >> >> >> > > hee >> >> >> > > > > rasoi aur sab mein meil milap pura hota thaa. Karan >> > yehi hai >> >> >> KAAN >> >> >> > > > > CHHEDAN. >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > Yehi kaan chhedan aulad ko kabu mein rakhta hai aur >> > aapki >> >> >> reputation >> >> >> > > > > bhee nahi bigdene dega.jis shaksh ne aapko bataya hai >> > abb aap >> >> > us >> >> >> se >> >> >> > > > > puchhe ki uss case ka kya hua, mumkin hai ki woh >> > baizzat bari >> >> > ho >> >> >> > > gaya ho >> >> >> > > > > (mere khayal se 100% bari hua hoga) . Aap jis ka chahe >> > kaan >> >> >> chhedan >> >> >> > > > > karwa de koi nuksan nahi hoga balki uski izzat mein >> > izafa hee >> >> >> hoga >> >> >> > > aur >> >> >> > > > > aulad bhee kabu mein rahegi aisa mera DAVA hai. >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > MAHAJAN >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > > , " Vijay Goel " >> >> >> <goyalvj@> >> >> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > Dear Kulbir, >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > Actually i don't have the chart of that person. It was >> >> >> narrated by >> >> >> > > my >> >> >> > > > > > client to me just under general discussion. >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > I than discussed it with Shri Ravinder Bhandhariji, >> > he said >> >> >> that >> >> >> > > ears >> >> >> > > > > > comes under ketu, so piercing may have disturbed ketu >> > in >> >> > some >> >> >> way >> >> >> > > and >> >> >> > > > > > hence rahu, so he went to Jail (rahu). >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > We cannot make out the mistake as we were not having >> > the >> >> >> chart. >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > Best Wishes, >> >> >> > > > > > Vijay Goel >> >> >> > > > > > Jaipur. >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > , kulbir >> > bance >> >> >> > > > > > kulbirbance@ wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Vijay ji, >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > kindly confirm, i think ur clients friend must be >> > having >> >> >> > > > > > > mars in 6th house when kaanchedan was done and gold >> > put >> >> > in. >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > Kulbir. >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > On 2/21/09, Vijay Goel goyalvj@ wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > Respected Varunji, >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > Recently one of clients narrated a sad incident >> > of his >> >> >> friend. >> >> >> > > He >> >> >> > > > > said >> >> >> > > > > > > > that his friend is a large scale scrap dealer, he >> >> >> consulted >> >> >> > > some >> >> >> > > > > > > > Lal-kitabee and this person said him to pierce >> > his ears >> >> > as >> >> >> an >> >> >> > > > > upay. >> >> >> > > > > > > > This scrap dealer pierced his both ears and >> > within 2-3 >> >> >> days he >> >> >> > > was >> >> >> > > > > > > > arrested and went to jail. This is because police >> >> >> authorities >> >> >> > > > > > found some >> >> >> > > > > > > > stolen material in his scrap, which was not in his >> >> >> knowledge. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > I have good faith in Lal-kitab, but i am afraid >> > to give >> >> >> any >> >> >> > > upay >> >> >> > > > > > > > directly as i have very less understanding of >> >> > grammatical >> >> >> part >> >> >> > > of >> >> >> > > > > > LK. I >> >> >> > > > > > > > always says use LK very intelligently else it has >> > the >> >> >> power to >> >> >> > > > > bring >> >> >> > > > > > > > havoc instead of miracles. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > The explanation you are providing is removing many >> >> > doubts, >> >> >> > > this so >> >> >> > > > > > many >> >> >> > > > > > > > articles in the file section itself is becoming >> > the >> >> > book. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > What i believe that translation process of LK is >> > almost >> >> >> > > complete, >> >> >> > > > > now >> >> >> > > > > > > > the second stage is to explore LK and write >> > explainable >> >> >> > > > > > commentaries is >> >> >> > > > > > > > going on, you are doing this job in a excellent >> > way. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > I really appreciate the Samundra Manthan of LK in >> > this >> >> >> group. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > Best Wishes, >> >> >> > > > > > > > Vijay Goel >> >> >> > > > > > > > Jaipur. >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > > -- >> >> >> > > > > > > Sent from my mobile device >> >> >> > > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > > >> >> >> > > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
