Lal Kitab Discussion Group saturn in sixth

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Respected Pucchi ji,

 

The other forms of upaya could be to either gift at a temple a karak

of saturn once a year or apply a little kajal at the anus every day.

 

Regards,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " gck " <gckindian

wrote:

>

> Respected Trivedi Ji,

>

> I can never ever thought of argumenting to you or any other

respected gurujan in this group, I am really sorry if my words can

make you think so.

>

> So the discussion is almost over except one part that what could

be the best way to send Saturn to second house. Mentioning below the

ways which i can thing upto my small knowledge.

>

> 1.Placing iron dibbi with mustard oil in north west corner of

house or around house in a kaccha sthan or if grass grows there then

it is best.

>

> Could you please throw some light on the other possible ways to

send saturn to second house.

>

> Once again sorry if i hurt you in any manner.

>

> pucchi

> -

> varun_trvd

>

> Monday, August 20, 2007 12:55 PM

> Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: saturn in sixth

>

>

> Respected Pucchi ji,

>

> I do not mind entering into a discussion but I avoid entering

into

> an argument.

>

> As I see, Rahu placed in the 8th would have a 100% aspect on the

2nd

> house. This aspect is an aspect of assimilation where the planet

is

> taken as assimilated within the aspected planets

>

> Even otherwise for the 2nd house in the 1941 and 1942 editions

the

> Lal Kitab says, " aath grah is ghar aate, juda ravi par rahata

hai "

> meaning that eight planets excluding the Sun get into this house

> through the aspect.

>

> Therefore I had worked out the masnuyee possibilities assuming

that

> in case the Rahu gets assimilated then what would be the picture

> like.

>

> And what the picture is likely to be, I have already said.

>

> With regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

> , " gck " <gckindian@>

> wrote:

> >

> > respected trivedi ji and pranaam to all gurujano,

> >

> > apne toh ek line keh ke baat khatam kar di, mainey jo bhi

likha

> apni choti si buddhi ke hisaab se likha, kripya karke aap bhi

toh

> apna koi tark rakhein aur kripya karke mujhe bataiyein ki mein

sahi

> keh raha hoon ki galat.

> >

> > pucchi

> >

> >

> > -

> > varun_trvd

> >

> > Monday, August 20, 2007 11:36 AM

> > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: saturn in sixth

> >

> >

> > Respected Pucchi ji,

> >

> > " isliye uska (matlab rahu ka) asar almost nil hi ho jayega,

> matlab

> > ki uskey asar dalney ka pata bhi nahi chal payega, na teve

waley

> ko

> > aur na hi un grahon ke rishteydaron ko, "

> >

> > If that comes true all the better.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> > , " gck " <gckindian@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected trivedi ji,

> > >

> > > apne toh drishti ke grah rahu ko 2nd house mein hi bitha

diya,

> > sahab rahu sirf 2nd house pe apne effect dalega being in 8th,

> matlab

> > ki wahan pe baithe grahon pe asar dalega par agar wahan pe

> panchayat

> > ban jayegi aur kyonki panchayat bahut powerful hoti hai isliye

> uska

> > (matlab rahu ka) asar almost nil hi ho jayega, matlab ki uskey

> asar

> > dalney ka pata bhi nahi chal payega, na teve waley ko aur na

hi

> un

> > grahon ke rishteydaron ko, isiliye toh lk mein likha hai ki

> > panchayat har tarikey se beneficial hogi agar wahan pe budh na

> ho,

> > kyonki maharaj budh sabko pata hai ki gaanthey lagatey rehtey

> hain

> > aur panchayat ko raajniti ka maidaan bana dengey.

> > >

> > > sabhi gurujano se request hai ki kripya apni gyan drishti se

> mere

> > kahey gaye vakyon ko shudh karein.

> > >

> > > pucchi

> > > -

> > > varun_trvd

> > >

> > > Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:14 AM

> > > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: saturn in sixth

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Pucchi ji,

> > >

> > > Your logic is correct.

> > >

> > > Now lets see what this combination would look like assuming

> > rahu,

> > > through aspect, also gets added to the company in the manner

> of

> > > mangal ki milawat [ read aspects section in Lal Kitab]

> > >

> > > Moon + mars + venus + ketu + { Saturn} + { rahu }

> > >

> > > This combination could then result into either of these two

> > > formations { masnuyee formations}

> > >

> > > # 1 : moon +{ khali Chandra + neech ketu }

> > >

> > > OR

> > >

> > > # 2 : moon + Mars + { neech ketu + venus }

> > >

> > > The first resultant combination would be dreadful causing

> > pneumonia,

> > > rheumatism , bad for mother and the son.

> > >

> > > The second resultant combination again would be bad for the

> > mother

> > > and the son, 48 saal tak santaan se dukhi.

> > >

> > > In either case both the resultant combinations would not be

> > > desirable. The rest is your own choice.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > > , " gck "

<gckindian@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Trivedi Ji and all gurujano ko mera pranaam!

> > > >

> > > > So, if we move saturn from sixth house to 2nd house, it

> would

> > form

> > > a panchayat, now the point is that it is written in lk that

a

> > > panchayat is beneficial in all the ways, still rahu is in

8th

> > house

> > > and it will send it's effect in 2nd house, here we have got

> two

> > > points in advantage, first a panchayat in 2nd house and

second

> > as

> > > saturn is being moved so there won't be any salahakaar for

> rahu

> > and

> > > it will send its effect according to his own buddhi and as

> rahu

> > is

> > > placed in 8th house (pakka ghar of mars+saturn), and being

> > aspected

> > > by a panchayat of five planets.

> > > >

> > > > Aab meri sabhi gurujano se yeh request hai ki rahu kis

> tarikey

> > se

> > > apne effects daleyga second house pe, according to me rahu

> being

> > > mischievious in nature can effect a panchayat also, well

that

> is

> > > what i logically thinks (actually not logically, but as we

> know

> > from

> > > dunyavi halaat that some mischievious people can go against

> > > panchayat also).

> > > >

> > > > kripya karke sabhi gurujan meri is choti si buddhi se

nikli

> > hui is

> > > baat ki aour zara dhyaan de aur mere is tark mein jo bhi

> > galtiyaan

> > > hai usey sudhar kar mera maarg darshan karein apne gyan ke

> duara.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks in advance to all for your precious devoted time to

> > this

> > > discussion.

> > > >

> > > > pucchi

> > > > -

> > > > varun_trvd

> > > >

> > > > Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:24 PM

> > > > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: saturn in sixth

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Pucchi Kapoor,

> > > >

> > > > What you have said is logical and correct.

> > > >

> > > > Now the question is how to tackle Saturn. Shifting it to

the

> > 8th

> > > or

> > > > 12th will not serve the purpose because the 2nd house

would

> > > still be

> > > > under its aspect. Therefore the choice remains between the

> 2nd

> > > and

> > > > the 3rd house.

> > > >

> > > > In the Second it will form a Panchayat if you are sure

that

> > the

> > > > other four planets including Ketu stay in the 2nd house.

> Ketu

> > > will

> > > > be a crucial planet in forming the panchayat.

> > > >

> > > > The saturn can not be shifted to the 3rd house so long as

> the

> > > Sun is

> > > > there.

> > > >

> > > > Apart from the alternatives given above, Saturn should

also

> be

> > > > cooled through the traditional 6th house upaya of burying

> > > mustard

> > > > oil under the water.

> > > >

> > > > With reagrds

> > > >

> > > > Varun Trivedi

> > > >

> > > > , " pucchikapoor "

> > > > <gckindian@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Gurujano ko mera pranaam,

> > > > >

> > > > > Saturn in Sixth house becomes very ferocious (lk says),

> and

> > it

> > > > becomes

> > > > > much more ferocious if rahu is in 8th as saturn being in

> > sixth

> > > > will

> > > > > have a drishti on 2nd house and will give poisonous

bites

> to

> > > the

> > > > > planets in 2nd house, on the other hand 8th house

planets

> > also

> > > > effects

> > > > > 2nd house planets after consulting sixth house planets

> > through

> > > > > eleventh house, rahu is agent of saturn (jo ki insaan ki

> > > burayi

> > > > shani

> > > > > judge ke saamne prastut karta hai), so this combination

> > > becomes

> > > > deadly

> > > > > for planets in 2nd house.what i think that why donot we

> move

> > > sixth

> > > > > saturn to somewhere else like in eighth house, 12th

house,

> > 3rd

> > > > house

> > > > > and second house, did i say second house!!! yes, but why

> as

> > > saturn

> > > > has

> > > > > a drishti path to second house as said in lk.

> > > > >

> > > > > i request to all gurujans to throw some light on the

above

> > > said

> > > > and

> > > > > kripya karke is choti si buddhi ke dwara utpanna kiye

gaye

> > > logic

> > > > ko

> > > > > apne gyaan ki drishti se shuddh karein aur trutiya

> > bataiyein,

> > > also

> > > > > giving an example of planetary combination so that one

> more

> > lk

> > > > > priciple can get involved and that is panchayat.

> > > > >

> > > > > kundli:

> > > > > 2nd house: moon, mars, venus, ketu

> > > > > 3rd house: sun, mer

> > > > > 4th house: jupiter

> > > > > 6th house: saturn

> > > > > 8th house: rahu

> > > > >

> > > > > according to me the better option would be to move

saturn

> in

> > > > second

> > > > > house as then it would make a panchayat in second house

> and

> > it

> > > > would

> > > > > become beneficial into all walks of life, otherwise we

can

> > > send

> > > > saturn

> > > > > to 12th house but it can make some damage to 2nd house

> moon

> > > and

> > > > mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > respected gurujans please throw some light and solve

this

> > > query.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks in advance to all gurujans for their kind help

and

> > > sorry if

> > > > in

> > > > > anyway my discussion hurts.

> > > > >

> > > > > pucchi

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Varunji,

 

Its easy to understand the logic behind upaya to gift

at a temple a karak of Saturn. May I request if you

help in explaining the logic behind the upaya to apply

a little kajal at the anus every day.

 

Many Thanks

Bhupinder

--- varun_trvd <varun_trvd wrote:

 

> Respected Pucchi ji,

>

> The other forms of upaya could be to either gift at

> a temple a karak

> of saturn once a year or apply a little kajal at the

> anus every day.

>

> Regards,

>

> Varun Trivedi

>

>

>

, " gck "

> <gckindian

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Trivedi Ji,

> >

> > I can never ever thought of argumenting to you or

> any other

> respected gurujan in this group, I am really sorry

> if my words can

> make you think so.

> >

> > So the discussion is almost over except one part

> that what could

> be the best way to send Saturn to second house.

> Mentioning below the

> ways which i can thing upto my small knowledge.

> >

> > 1.Placing iron dibbi with mustard oil in north

> west corner of

> house or around house in a kaccha sthan or if grass

> grows there then

> it is best.

> >

> > Could you please throw some light on the other

> possible ways to

> send saturn to second house.

> >

> > Once again sorry if i hurt you in any manner.

> >

> > pucchi

> > -

> > varun_trvd

> >

> > Monday, August 20, 2007 12:55 PM

> > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: saturn

> in sixth

> >

> >

> > Respected Pucchi ji,

> >

> > I do not mind entering into a discussion but I

> avoid entering

> into

> > an argument.

> >

> > As I see, Rahu placed in the 8th would have a

> 100% aspect on the

> 2nd

> > house. This aspect is an aspect of assimilation

> where the planet

> is

> > taken as assimilated within the aspected planets

> >

> > Even otherwise for the 2nd house in the 1941 and

> 1942 editions

> the

> > Lal Kitab says, " aath grah is ghar aate, juda

> ravi par rahata

> hai "

> > meaning that eight planets excluding the Sun get

> into this house

> > through the aspect.

> >

> > Therefore I had worked out the masnuyee

> possibilities assuming

> that

> > in case the Rahu gets assimilated then what

> would be the picture

> > like.

> >

> > And what the picture is likely to be, I have

> already said.

> >

> > With regards,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> > ,

> " gck " <gckindian@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > respected trivedi ji and pranaam to all

> gurujano,

> > >

> > > apne toh ek line keh ke baat khatam kar di,

> mainey jo bhi

> likha

> > apni choti si buddhi ke hisaab se likha, kripya

> karke aap bhi

> toh

> > apna koi tark rakhein aur kripya karke mujhe

> bataiyein ki mein

> sahi

> > keh raha hoon ki galat.

> > >

> > > pucchi

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > varun_trvd

> > >

> > > Monday, August 20, 2007 11:36 AM

> > > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re: saturn

> in sixth

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected Pucchi ji,

> > >

> > > " isliye uska (matlab rahu ka) asar almost nil

> hi ho jayega,

> > matlab

> > > ki uskey asar dalney ka pata bhi nahi chal

> payega, na teve

> waley

> > ko

> > > aur na hi un grahon ke rishteydaron ko, "

> > >

> > > If that comes true all the better.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Varun Trivedi

> > >

> > > ,

> " gck " <gckindian@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected trivedi ji,

> > > >

> > > > apne toh drishti ke grah rahu ko 2nd house

> mein hi bitha

> diya,

> > > sahab rahu sirf 2nd house pe apne effect

> dalega being in 8th,

> > matlab

> > > ki wahan pe baithe grahon pe asar dalega par

> agar wahan pe

> > panchayat

> > > ban jayegi aur kyonki panchayat bahut powerful

> hoti hai isliye

> > uska

> > > (matlab rahu ka) asar almost nil hi ho jayega,

> matlab ki uskey

> > asar

> > > dalney ka pata bhi nahi chal payega, na teve

> waley ko aur na

> hi

> > un

> > > grahon ke rishteydaron ko, isiliye toh lk mein

> likha hai ki

> > > panchayat har tarikey se beneficial hogi agar

> wahan pe budh na

> > ho,

> > > kyonki maharaj budh sabko pata hai ki gaanthey

> lagatey rehtey

> > hain

> > > aur panchayat ko raajniti ka maidaan bana

> dengey.

> > > >

> > > > sabhi gurujano se request hai ki kripya apni

> gyan drishti se

> > mere

> > > kahey gaye vakyon ko shudh karein.

> > > >

> > > > pucchi

> > > > -

> > > > varun_trvd

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:14 AM

> > > > Lal Kitab Discussion Group Re:

> saturn in sixth

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Respected Pucchi ji,

> > > >

> > > > Your logic is correct.

> > > >

> > > > Now lets see what this combination would

> look like assuming

> > > rahu,

> > > > through aspect, also gets added to the

> company

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