Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Dear Agnihotri ji, Before doing the upaya we have to make sure that the Mars is ashubh { bud } through the placement of other planets in the horoscope. It is necessary because the Lal Kitab gives quite a few ‘ parihar’ combinations which would nullify the mangal ashubh { bud } effects. Wearing a silver bangle or kara on the right wrist could be one of the upaya for ashubh Mars in the 4th house provided that the 9th house and the 11th house are not occupied. Of course the kara will have to be open at the ends. Therefore it is an upaya subject to a condition, it can be if at all, a conditional upaya; it is not a general or universal upaya for the ashubh Mars in the 4th house. Although I do not remember having come across that wearing a silver kara for ashubh Mars in the 4th house has been suggested in any of the Lal Kitab editions. Assuming that Pandit ji had suggested this upaya to some one privately, in that case he must have made sure that the 9th and the 11th houses of the native would not have been occupied. Wearing a silver kara on the right wrist could make sense because for the Moon in the 3rd house the book says: “ bura chandra na phal kabhi deve, khali para 9,11 jo†“ hoga shukra bhi uttam teve, na hi mangal bud hota ho†{ page 380 Urdu ed 1952 ; page 126 Arun Sanhita } But why did Pandit ji ask for a copper stud to be fixed into the silver kara ? I doubt that he would have suggested such a thing because for the Sun + Moon combination in the 3rd house {right wrist }the Lal Kitab says : “ apane liye ummda qismat magar doosaron ke taalluq mein matalab parast†{ Page 795 urdu ed 1952 ; page 277 Arun Sanhita } Now why would Pandit ji suggest an addition that would add some thing unpleasant to the benefic effect of Moon in the 3rd house and as a consequence would make a person selfish as far as others are concerned? If Pandit ji did suggest, then the only thing that could be said is : The ways of ‘siddha purush are strange, and beyond the means of common man’s comprehension’ According to a general perception the copper stud should not have been added, and therefore it will be futile to go into the logical reasons for such a copper stud. If it is assumed that adding the copper is like adding salt to water then the easiest thing would have been to establish sea-water. It would have saved all the botheration of getting a silver kara made, getting a copper nail or stud inserted into it, getting it filed so that it doesn’t hurt, and so on. Apart from half a dozen upaya mentioned for the Mars in the 4th house, the two easiest ones are : [ a ] Wash your teeth with water first thing in the morning. [ b ] Establish Jupiter, Moon and the Sun. This can be done in more than one way. Keeping a handful of rice with a copper coin in a brass bowl would be most convenient and easy to do. With regards, Varun Trivedi , " roop.agnihotri " <roop.agnihotri wrote: > > Sirs, > > Has a silver bangle with a copper stud been prescribed for a Mars Bad > in the 4th house? If so what could be the logic for the bangle and the > copper stud? Is it to add salinity to water - moon that copper … quot; salt > has been used? What could be the general upaya for a Mars Bad in the > 4th house? > > Faithfully, > > Agnihotri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 varun ji , what could be the reason for keeping the kara open at its ends. there are some instances where the challa or kara has been recommended to be bejod. this bejod meanless seamless i.e continous moulded without any joint or does it mean open at ends i.e bina jod ke. kulbir bains , " varun_trvd " <varun_trvd wrote: > > Dear Agnihotri ji, > > Before doing the upaya we have to make sure that the Mars is ashubh { > bud } through the placement of other planets in the horoscope. It is > necessary because the Lal Kitab gives quite a few ‘ parihar’ > combinations which would nullify the mangal ashubh { bud } effects. > > Wearing a silver bangle or kara on the right wrist could be one of > the upaya for ashubh Mars in the 4th house provided that the 9th house > and the 11th house are not occupied. Of course the kara will have to > be open at the ends. Therefore it is an upaya subject to a condition, > it can be if at all, a conditional upaya; it is not a general or > universal upaya for the ashubh Mars in the 4th house. > > Although I do not remember having come across that wearing a silver > kara for ashubh Mars in the 4th house has been suggested in any of the > Lal Kitab editions. Assuming that Pandit ji had suggested this upaya > to some one privately, in that case he must have made sure that the > 9th and the 11th houses of the native would not have been occupied. > > Wearing a silver kara on the right wrist could make sense because for > the Moon in the 3rd house the book says: > > “ bura chandra na phal kabhi deve, khali para 9,11 jo†> “ hoga shukra bhi uttam teve, na hi mangal bud hota ho†> { page 380 Urdu ed 1952 ; page 126 Arun Sanhita } > > But why did Pandit ji ask for a copper stud to be fixed into the > silver kara ? > > I doubt that he would have suggested such a thing because for the Sun > + Moon combination in the 3rd house {right wrist }the Lal Kitab says : > > “ apane liye ummda qismat magar doosaron ke taalluq mein matalab > parast†> { Page 795 urdu ed 1952 ; page 277 Arun Sanhita } > > Now why would Pandit ji suggest an addition that would add some thing > unpleasant to the benefic effect of Moon in the 3rd house and as a > consequence would make a person selfish as far as others are concerned? > > If Pandit ji did suggest, then the only thing that could be said is : > The ways of ‘siddha purush are strange, and beyond the means of common > man’s comprehension’ > > > According to a general perception the copper stud should not have been > added, and therefore it will be futile to go into the logical reasons > for such a copper stud. If it is assumed that adding the copper is > like adding salt to water then the easiest thing would have been to > establish sea-water. It would have saved all the botheration of > getting a silver kara made, getting a copper nail or stud inserted > into it, getting it filed so that it doesn’t hurt, and so on. > > Apart from half a dozen upaya mentioned for the Mars in the 4th house, > the two easiest ones are : > > [ a ] Wash your teeth with water first thing in the morning. > [ b ] Establish Jupiter, Moon and the Sun. This can be done in more > than one way. Keeping a handful of rice with a copper coin in a brass > bowl would be most convenient and easy to do. > > With regards, > > Varun Trivedi , " roop.agnihotri " > <roop.agnihotri@> wrote: > > > > Sirs, > > > > Has a silver bangle with a copper stud been prescribed for a Mars > Bad > > in the 4th house? If so what could be the logic for the bangle and > the > > copper stud? Is it to add salinity to water - moon that copper … > quot; salt > > has been used? What could be the general upaya for a Mars Bad in the > > 4th house? > > > > Faithfully, > > > > Agnihotri > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Dear Vipin Shukla Ji, It is yet another very impressive and colorful description indeed Vipin Bhai. Why a Bejod Chhalla is recommended, what is the logic behind this remedy, how it works and how many planets are involved in the whole process is a separate issue. But I disagree to agree with your perception regarding the description/specification of a Bejod Chhalla. In my humble opinion it should be (rather must be) nothing but a totally seamless one, no matter whether it is prepared by cutting, molding or any other method. Believe me, my conviction is not baseless. I know many people whom Pundit ji recommended the rings in question and strictly advised them to procure the seamless ones only. Therefore, for me Pundit jis diktat is absolute and conclusive since I am a more practical guy rather than a theoretical one. I am quoting the following lines of Sant Kabir ji to clarify my stance (certainty not intended to offend a good friend like you): Tu kehta Kagad Ki Lekhi Main Kehta Ankhan Ki Dekhi. Finally, one humble request to you, kindly use single color and font in your writings. Ornate presentations somehow diminish the very spirit of your otherwise brilliant script. RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Respected Yograj ji, KiranJit Ji & Geeta ji, I was reading views written by all of u about BEJOD CHHALLA. I have some opinion of mine & i want to share here.All of u r prooving the meaning of BEJOD Challa. As wel as i can say the word has been used for budh ,specially for khana no.12 budh. Bfor continue next i want to say ," Yes,every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh.But in perview of remedy of lalkitab it will be counted of budh 1st of all , after that we have to see its metal etc for sub-planetry object. Again im coming to the point .Here is the question:- 1. Y Budh is remediable in 12th ? 2. If it is remediable , what modus operandi will be useful ? 3. Y Pujya Pandit ji said Iron made BEJOD FAULAD KA CHALLA ? (a).Is there was a motive to establish BUDH? (b)Is there was a motive to establish SATURN ? Ans No. 1:- In the very bigining of lalkitab has been written --- YAHEE CHAKKAR MAIN DAALE RAKHNE KI DUSHMANI BARHASPAT (jup.) SE BUDH KO HOGI. (Here is clear that budh is enemy of Jupiter & in khana no 12 it is NEECh, as well as there is partnership of Neech Rahu in khana no12th so with the role of his friend rahu ,the Budh reveals itself to fulfil its rival nature to Jupiter,Now Neech budh wants to eatablish the empire of neech rahu.Bcoz if we see masnuyee of Budh (Guru+ Rahu) ,the we can analyze the Role of Rahu in 12th. In fact it spreads its mean or evil activities, so it is remediable Rahu to bura hogaa hee chahey asal rahu khana 6 main hee kyon na baithaa ho aise main mandey rahu ka bhi upay budh ke upay se pehley kar denaa shayad hi koyee faydaa pahunchaa sakey Ans.2. Now wat to do? Clearly written in lalkitab for budh of khana no.12 :- 4 CHHATHEY (6th) 9 ,12 MAAREY, 3 DOOJAA NAHI BACHTAA HO GURU RAAHU KHUD JAD SE KATtEY, SUKHIYAA RAANI NA RAJA HO SHANI RAVI KOYEE 12 BAITHEY ASAR JEHAR NA UN PAR HO. SAATH SAATHI GRAH SHATRU HOTE JEHAR SHANI MAIN BHARTAA HO Now Pujya Pandit ji used to establish Saturn at budh & himself said shani & Ravi will reduce the poison of Budh.In this perview Pandit ji suggested BEJOD FAULAD KA CHHALLA (jise jod ya taankaa na lagaa ho, means open ended) The conflict is here to know about wat is BEJOD. I saw many opinions at this. I want to say that Pandit ji could use the word --- dhalaayee main dhaal kar banyaa huyaa ya dhalaa hua . It was not a rare word at that time.Plz read my observations with the lalkitab verdicts. Ans no.3 a :- At other side clearly said --- JOD YA TAANKAA NA LAGAA HO. ( It means jod or welding will include Rahu with budh & it will give bad effects.) As wel as, about one peace without joint or moulded ring , it will be Budh's impact at shani. Here is no lozic to mix budh & shani or establishing Budh .Ans No.3b :- Here clear lozic is to establish a planet which may be respectful to guru & may be the friend of budh. Both these attributes are in Saturn only. (That is why, Pujya Pandit Ji did not told to wear a BEJOD-ring of silver or copper) At other side it can control hidden bad activities of rahu supporting Budh. So BEJOD (Open ended)RING AT LAST FINGER (Which is directly concerned with budh ) is a remedy. Otherwise wearing Budh for malefic Budh ,how much proper ,all of u can analyze. Even Respected Pandit ji written-- KHAALIS FAULAD JISE JANG (Rust = Rahu) NA LAGNE PAAYE…………JIS KADAR JYADAA CHAMAKDAAR SAAF SUTHRAA HOGAA USI KADAR LAMP MAIN SAAF CHIMNEY YA BIJLI KEE LEHAR KE LIYE BALB KA KAAM DEGA AUR BHAGYA KI SOYEE HUYEE LEHAR KO FAURAN JAGAA DEGAA .Wat a similey used by Pandit ji –Evil Electric waves of Rahu- part of Budh can be modified as a light of lamp of good luck. So much equal to the power & use of electricity in modern age. It means pure Saturn ,even which would not be covered by Rahu (Rust), then how it can be used it in the shape of Budh. All of all, only Saturn's establishment at Budh is motive there & it is clearly written in lalkitab. With readings of this revered book, In my opinion--Making Ring completely rounded will disturb the remedy ,even it may be TAANKE WAALI or MOULDED. Making it jointless with two ends is a establishment of saturn with a path for Jupiter into budh under the supervision of Saturn.(Ya aise bola jaye ki budh ke daayre main brihaspati ki havaa ka raastaa denaa hoga. Isee vazah se hee Budh 12 ke liye kesar ka TILAK bhi kahaa gayaa hai taaki budh ka masnuyee walaa guru ka hissa(Part) theek ho jaye use POWER miley aur Pujya Pandit ji ne to yah bhi likhaa hai ki RAAKH (Budh) KA TILAK PITA (Guru) PAR BHAAREE HOGAA. Means establishment of BUDH by TILAK of RAAKH will create distruction at all.So it is very clear that eastablishment of budh has been totally denied & once Budh is denied totally,how it is possible to accept as a remedial tool again, It is the reason that endless ring also will be denied .Or we can say Saturn is as a medium or middle-man there only. With regards Pt.Lalkitabee , Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:>> Respected Dr. Kiranjit Sahib,> > So many techniques are discussed for making Joint Less Steel Rings, Like the Dhalayi Wala method as mentioned by you, and by cutting a pipe suggested earlier by some other colleague. > > As far as the Dhalayi Wala method is concerned, it is perfectly alright. But there is a problem in Pipe cutting method, most of the pipes have joint, whereas we require a seamless pipe for this purpose, and seamless pipes are not easily available and are much more costlier than the normal ones. Moreover pipes have a fixed inner dia like 12mm, 19mm, 25mm and so on, so making a ring by cutting pipe (even the seamless one) is not a wise idea.> > The best way is to prepare the Joint less ring is by drilling a steel rod as per the finger thickness, this can be done on a lathe machine by a machine man quite easily, all you need is to find a willing machine man.> > Finally, you have said that every round thing is not necessarily a representative of Budh, can you elaborate this point for a student like me?> > With regards> Yograj Prabhakar.> > > kiranjit kumar kapatjal wrote: > dear Friends,> There is no doubt that "bejod' stands for without a joint or 'tanka'(goldsmith's language) i.e. the silver bangle has to be made by a workman who makes it by DHALAI. These workmen r now difficult to find with the result that the practiotioners of lk started talking of pipes etc.> the same is for steel ring for budh 12. where ever the word is "bejod" it is dhalai wala i.e. pouring the molten metal into a sancha. As mentioned earlier also, every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh.> wih best wishes;> sincerely,> kiranjeet > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> with the Search movie showtime shortcut.> > > > > > TV dinner still cooling?> Check out "Tonight's Picks" on TV.> Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Respected Yograj jiA scholar of lalkitab like u , who never goes beyond the single word of this revered book, even who was so careful to the use of MOOL LALKITAB that couldn't tolerated the use of words like "MASLAN" & "JAISE" (EVEN BOTH HAVE SAME MEANINGS.).Kisi ko yah achchha lagaa ya nahi lekin mujhe aapkaa yah tarikaa bahut achchha lagaa tha.But a person who was so strict at this issue to use of ORIGINAL BOOK. Alas! today the same person is advicing me to believe "AAANKHAN DEKHI" only. In fact there is so much written prooves r available in KAGAD KI LEKHI. If AANKHAN KI DEKHI WAS SO SUFFIECIENT ,THEN Y & FOR WHAT WE SHUD READ LALKITAB & for what purpose it was written ? The person who used the word as DALDA BOOK, for the use of other books based upon original book & appriciated the use of original book only , even prescribed to read URDU WRITTEN book only. Today he is saying to believe only AANKHAN DEKHI. As u r saying me:- Tu kehta Kagad Ki Lekhi Main Kehta Ankhan Ki Dekhi. I want to recall u with humble words that :- 1.KAGAD KI LEKHI IS MOST RELIABLE 2.ANKHAN KI DEKHI IS MORE RELIABLE 3.KAANO KI SUNI IS LESS RELIABLEAnd u r confessing urself in ur mail that u r saying KAANO KI SUNI, not aankhan ki dekhi.(U can re-read ur mail for confirmation) As well as my colorful artical," U can see all colors were used to provide a grasp to the subject, for a reader. Specially for them who use quotes from lalkitab. And other side i want to say that i didnt saw Pujya Pandit Ji, but i see his image 1st of all, which is available at www.originallalkitab.com ,bfor making a write-up .After this I read & use only KAGAD KI LEKHI" by Pujya Pandit Ji ,as per my capability & understanding.AB AAP HEE KAHO KI MAIN KAANO KI SUNI PAR BHAROSAA KAROON YA PANDIT JI KE DWARA KHUD LIKHI HUYEE KITAB PAR BHAROSAA KAROON. Only Lalkitab is a live statue of Pujya Pandit Ji for me, no any other way. If there is any other way, nesseccery to confirm from lalkitab or according to the rules of lalkitab bfor acceptance. With RegardsPt.Lalkitabee , Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:>> Dear Vipin Shukla Ji,> It is yet another very impressive and colorful description indeed Vipin Bhai. Why a Bejod Chhalla is recommended, what is the logic behind this remedy, how it works and how many planets are involved in the whole process is a separate issue. But I disagree to agree with your perception regarding the description/specification of a Bejod Chhalla. In my humble opinion it should be (rather must be) nothing but a totally seamless one, no matter whether it is prepared by cutting, molding or any other method. > > Believe me, my conviction is not baseless. I know many people whom Pundit ji recommended the rings in question and strictly advised them to procure the seamless ones only. Therefore, for me Pundit jis diktat is absolute and conclusive since I am a more practical guy rather than a theoretical one. I am quoting the following lines of Sant Kabir ji to clarify my stance (certainty not intended to offend a good friend like you):> > Tu kehta Kagad Ki Lekhi> Main Kehta Ankhan Ki Dekhi. > > Finally, one humble request to you, kindly use single color and font in your writings. Ornate presentations somehow diminish the very spirit of your otherwise brilliant script. > > Respectfully> Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > lalkitabee lalkitabee wrote: > Respected Yograj ji, KiranJit Ji & Geeta ji,> I was reading views written by all of u about BEJOD CHHALLA. I have some opinion of mine & i want to share here.All of u r prooving the meaning of BEJOD Challa. As wel as i can say the word has been used for budh ,specially for khana no.12 budh.> Bfor continue next i want to say ," Yes,every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh.But in perview of remedy of lalkitab it will be counted of budh 1st of all , after that we have to see its metal etc for sub-planetry object.> Again im coming to the point .Here is the question:-> 1. Y Budh is remediable in 12th ?> 2. If it is remediable , what modus operandi will be useful ?> 3. Y Pujya Pandit ji said Iron made BEJOD FAULAD KA CHALLA ?> (a).Is there was a motive to establish BUDH?> (b)Is there was a motive to establish SATURN ?> Ans No. 1:- In the very bigining of lalkitab has been written --- YAHEE CHAKKAR MAIN DAALE RAKHNE KI DUSHMANI BARHASPAT (jup.) SE BUDH KO HOGI. (Here is clear that budh is enemy of Jupiter & in khana no 12 it is NEECh, as well as there is partnership of Neech Rahu in khana no12th so with the role of his friend rahu ,the Budh reveals itself to fulfil its rival nature to Jupiter,Now Neech budh wants to eatablish the empire of neech rahu.Bcoz if we see masnuyee of Budh (Guru+ Rahu) ,the we can analyze the Role of Rahu in 12th. In fact it spreads its mean or evil activities, so it is remediable Rahu to bura hogaa hee chahey asal rahu khana 6 main hee kyon na baithaa ho aise main mandey rahu ka bhi upay budh ke upay se pehley kar denaa shayad hi koyee faydaa pahunchaa sakey> > Ans.2. Now wat to do? Clearly written in lalkitab for budh of khana no.12 :- > 4 CHHATHEY (6th) 9 ,12 MAAREY, 3 DOOJAA NAHI BACHTAA HO> GURU RAAHU KHUD JAD SE KATtEY, SUKHIYAA RAANI NA RAJA HO> SHANI RAVI KOYEE 12 BAITHEY ASAR JEHAR NA UN PAR HO.> SAATH SAATHI GRAH SHATRU HOTE JEHAR SHANI MAIN BHARTAA HO > Now Pujya Pandit ji used to establish Saturn at budh & himself said shani & Ravi will reduce the poison of Budh.In this perview Pandit ji suggested BEJOD FAULAD KA CHHALLA (jise jod ya taankaa na lagaa ho, means open ended)> The conflict is here to know about wat is BEJOD. I saw many opinions at this. I want to say that Pandit ji could use the word --- dhalaayee main dhaal kar banyaa huyaa ya dhalaa hua . It was not a rare word at that time.Plz read my observations with the lalkitab verdicts.> Ans no.3 a :- At other side clearly said --- JOD YA TAANKAA NA LAGAA HO. ( It means jod or welding will include Rahu with budh & it will give bad effects.) As wel as, about one peace without joint or moulded ring , it will be Budh's impact at shani. Here is no lozic to mix budh & shani or establishing Budh> .Ans No.3b :- Here clear lozic is to establish a planet which may be respectful to guru & may be the friend of budh. Both these attributes are in Saturn only. (That is why, Pujya Pandit Ji did not told to wear a BEJOD-ring of silver or copper) At other side it can control hidden bad activities of rahu supporting Budh. So BEJOD (Open ended)RING AT LAST FINGER (Which is directly concerned with budh ) is a remedy. Otherwise wearing Budh for malefic Budh ,how much proper ,all of u can analyze. Even Respected Pandit ji written-- KHAALIS FAULAD JISE JANG (Rust = Rahu) NA LAGNE PAAYE…………JIS KADAR JYADAA CHAMAKDAAR SAAF SUTHRAA HOGAA USI KADAR LAMP MAIN SAAF CHIMNEY YA BIJLI KEE LEHAR KE LIYE BALB KA KAAM DEGA AUR BHAGYA KI SOYEE HUYEE LEHAR KO FAURAN JAGAA DEGAA .Wat a similey used by Pandit ji –Evil Electric waves of Rahu- part of Budh can be modified as a light of lamp of good luck. So much equal to the power & use of electricity in modern age. It means pure Saturn ,even> which would not be covered by Rahu (Rust), then how it can be used it in the shape of Budh. All of all, only Saturn's establishment at Budh is motive there & it is clearly written in lalkitab.> With readings of this revered book, In my opinion--Making Ring completely rounded will disturb the remedy ,even it may be TAANKE WAALI or MOULDED. Making it jointless with two ends is a establishment of saturn with a path for Jupiter into budh under the supervision of Saturn.(Ya aise bola jaye ki budh ke daayre main brihaspati ki havaa ka raastaa denaa hoga. Isee vazah se hee Budh 12 ke liye kesar ka TILAK bhi kahaa gayaa hai taaki budh ka masnuyee walaa guru ka hissa(Part) theek ho jaye use POWER miley aur Pujya Pandit ji ne to yah bhi likhaa hai ki RAAKH (Budh) KA TILAK PITA (Guru) PAR BHAAREE HOGAA. Means establishment of BUDH by TILAK of RAAKH will create distruction at all.So it is very clear that eastablishment of budh has been totally denied & once Budh is denied totally,how it is possible to accept as a remedial tool again, It is the reason that endless ring also will be denied .Or we can say Saturn is as a medium or middle-man> there only. > > With regards > Pt.Lalkitabee> > , Yograj Prabhakar yr_prabhakar@ wrote:> >> > Respected Dr. Kiranjit Sahib,> > > > So many techniques are discussed for making Joint Less Steel Rings, Like the Dhalayi Wala method as mentioned by you, and by cutting a pipe suggested earlier by some other colleague. > > > > As far as the Dhalayi Wala method is concerned, it is perfectly alright. But there is a problem in Pipe cutting method, most of the pipes have joint, whereas we require a seamless pipe for this purpose, and seamless pipes are not easily available and are much more costlier than the normal ones. Moreover pipes have a fixed inner dia like 12mm, 19mm, 25mm and so on, so making a ring by cutting pipe (even the seamless one) is not a wise idea.> > > > The best way is to prepare the Joint less ring is by drilling a steel rod as per the finger thickness, this can be done on a lathe machine by a machine man quite easily, all you need is to find a willing machine man.> > > > Finally, you have said that every round thing is not necessarily a representative of Budh, can you elaborate this point for a student like me?> > > > With regards> > Yograj Prabhakar.> > > > > > kiranjit kumar kapatjal@ wrote: > > dear Friends,> > There is no doubt that "bejod' stands for without a joint or 'tanka'(goldsmith's language) i.e. the silver bangle has to be made by a workman who makes it by DHALAI. These workmen r now difficult to find with the result that the practiotioners of lk started talking of pipes etc.> > the same is for steel ring for budh 12. where ever the word is "bejod" it is dhalai wala i.e. pouring the molten metal into a sancha. As mentioned earlier also, every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh.> > wih best wishes;> > sincerely,> > kiranjeet > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> > with the Search movie showtime shortcut.> > > > > > > > > > > > TV dinner still cooling?> > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on TV.> >> > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Acharya Lalkitabee ji Maharaj,Ap Lal Kitab Jyotish Mein Ek Khas Reputation Rakhtey Hain, Jis Ke Aas-Paas Bhi Pahunch Paana Kum-Az-Kum Mujh Jaise Haqeer Insaan Ke Toh Bootey Ki Baat Nahi Hai. Main Badey Adab-O-khaloos Se Do Baatein Kehne Ki Ijaazat Chahoonga.1. Meharbani kar ke Zara Ghaur se Dekhiye ki is Nacheez ne kya arz kiya hai . Jisko Ap Kaano Ki Suni Farma Rahe hain, Wo Pundit Ji ke Mukharvind Se Nikla Huya Aadesh hai, Us Aadesh Ko Koyi Aur Beshaq Kisi Tarah Bhi Ley, Magar Mere Liye Woh Utimate Aur Absolute hai. 2. Mere Ajeez Dost, Ankhan Ki Dekhi Ko Maine Jis Sandarbh Mein Istehmaal Kiya hai Meharbaani Karke Ap Usko Usi Sandarbh Mein Hi Dekhein. Kyon Ki Agar Hum Muddey se Bahar Jakar Kori Laffazee Aur Filmi Dialogues Baazi Mein Ulajh Jayengey to Ye Poori Ki Poori Discussion Mehaz Zehnee-Ayyashi Ban Kar Reh Jayegi.RespectfullyYograj Prabhakar.lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Respected Yograj jiA scholar of lalkitab like u , who never goes beyond the single word of this revered book, even who was so careful to the use of MOOL LALKITAB that couldn't tolerated the use of words like "MASLAN" & "JAISE" (EVEN BOTH HAVE SAME MEANINGS.).Kisi ko yah achchha lagaa ya nahi lekin mujhe aapkaa yah tarikaa bahut achchha lagaa tha.But a person who was so strict at this issue to use of ORIGINAL BOOK. Alas! today the same person is advicing me to believe "AAANKHAN DEKHI" only. In fact there is so much written prooves r available in KAGAD KI LEKHI. If AANKHAN KI DEKHI WAS SO SUFFIECIENT ,THEN Y & FOR WHAT WE SHUD READ LALKITAB & for what purpose it was written ? The person who used the word as DALDA BOOK, for the use of other books based upon original book & appriciated the use of original book only , even prescribed to read URDU WRITTEN book only. Today he is saying to believe only AANKHAN DEKHI. As u r saying me:- Tu kehta Kagad Ki Lekhi Main Kehta Ankhan Ki Dekhi. I want to recall u with humble words that :- 1.KAGAD KI LEKHI IS MOST RELIABLE 2.ANKHAN KI DEKHI IS MORE RELIABLE 3.KAANO KI SUNI IS LESS RELIABLEAnd u r confessing urself in ur mail that u r saying KAANO KI SUNI, not aankhan ki dekhi.(U can re-read ur mail for confirmation) As well as my colorful artical," U can see all colors were used to provide a grasp to the subject, for a reader. Specially for them who use quotes from lalkitab. And other side i want to say that i didnt saw Pujya Pandit Ji, but i see his image 1st of all, which is available at www.originallalkitab.com ,bfor making a write-up .After this I read & use only KAGAD KI LEKHI" by Pujya Pandit Ji ,as per my capability & understanding.AB AAP HEE KAHO KI MAIN KAANO KI SUNI PAR BHAROSAA KAROON YA PANDIT JI KE DWARA KHUD LIKHI HUYEE KITAB PAR BHAROSAA KAROON. Only Lalkitab is a live statue of Pujya Pandit Ji for me, no any other way. If there is any other way, nesseccery to confirm from lalkitab or according to the rules of lalkitab bfor acceptance. With RegardsPt.Lalkitabee , Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote:>> Dear Vipin Shukla Ji,> It is yet another very impressive and colorful description indeed Vipin Bhai. Why a Bejod Chhalla is recommended, what is the logic behind this remedy, how it works and how many planets are involved in the whole process is a separate issue. But I disagree to agree with your perception regarding the description/specification of a Bejod Chhalla. In my humble opinion it should be (rather must be) nothing but a totally seamless one, no matter whether it is prepared by cutting, molding or any other method. > > Believe me, my conviction is not baseless. I know many people whom Pundit ji recommended the rings in question and strictly advised them to procure the seamless ones only. Therefore, for me Pundit jis diktat is absolute and conclusive since I am a more practical guy rather than a theoretical one. I am quoting the following lines of Sant Kabir ji to clarify my stance (certainty not intended to offend a good friend like you):> > Tu kehta Kagad Ki Lekhi> Main Kehta Ankhan Ki Dekhi. > > Finally, one humble request to you, kindly use single color and font in your writings. Ornate presentations somehow diminish the very spirit of your otherwise brilliant script. > > Respectfully> Yograj Prabhakar> > > > > > lalkitabee lalkitabee wrote: > Respected Yograj ji, KiranJit Ji & Geeta ji,> I was reading views written by all of u about BEJOD CHHALLA. I have some opinion of mine & i want to share here.All of u r prooving the meaning of BEJOD Challa. As wel as i can say the word has been used for budh ,specially for khana no.12 budh.> Bfor continue next i want to say ," Yes,every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh.But in perview of remedy of lalkitab it will be counted of budh 1st of all , after that we have to see its metal etc for sub-planetry object.> Again im coming to the point .Here is the question:-> 1. Y Budh is remediable in 12th ?> 2. If it is remediable , what modus operandi will be useful ?> 3. Y Pujya Pandit ji said Iron made BEJOD FAULAD KA CHALLA ?> (a).Is there was a motive to establish BUDH?> (b)Is there was a motive to establish SATURN ?> Ans No. 1:- In the very bigining of lalkitab has been written --- YAHEE CHAKKAR MAIN DAALE RAKHNE KI DUSHMANI BARHASPAT (jup.) SE BUDH KO HOGI. (Here is clear that budh is enemy of Jupiter & in khana no 12 it is NEECh, as well as there is partnership of Neech Rahu in khana no12th so with the role of his friend rahu ,the Budh reveals itself to fulfil its rival nature to Jupiter,Now Neech budh wants to eatablish the empire of neech rahu.Bcoz if we see masnuyee of Budh (Guru+ Rahu) ,the we can analyze the Role of Rahu in 12th. In fact it spreads its mean or evil activities, so it is remediable Rahu to bura hogaa hee chahey asal rahu khana 6 main hee kyon na baithaa ho aise main mandey rahu ka bhi upay budh ke upay se pehley kar denaa shayad hi koyee faydaa pahunchaa sakey> > Ans.2. Now wat to do? Clearly written in lalkitab for budh of khana no.12 :- > 4 CHHATHEY (6th) 9 ,12 MAAREY, 3 DOOJAA NAHI BACHTAA HO> GURU RAAHU KHUD JAD SE KATtEY, SUKHIYAA RAANI NA RAJA HO> SHANI RAVI KOYEE 12 BAITHEY ASAR JEHAR NA UN PAR HO.> SAATH SAATHI GRAH SHATRU HOTE JEHAR SHANI MAIN BHARTAA HO > Now Pujya Pandit ji used to establish Saturn at budh & himself said shani & Ravi will reduce the poison of Budh.In this perview Pandit ji suggested BEJOD FAULAD KA CHHALLA (jise jod ya taankaa na lagaa ho, means open ended)> The conflict is here to know about wat is BEJOD. I saw many opinions at this. I want to say that Pandit ji could use the word --- dhalaayee main dhaal kar banyaa huyaa ya dhalaa hua . It was not a rare word at that time.Plz read my observations with the lalkitab verdicts.> Ans no.3 a :- At other side clearly said --- JOD YA TAANKAA NA LAGAA HO. ( It means jod or welding will include Rahu with budh & it will give bad effects.) As wel as, about one peace without joint or moulded ring , it will be Budh's impact at shani. Here is no lozic to mix budh & shani or establishing Budh> .Ans No.3b :- Here clear lozic is to establish a planet which may be respectful to guru & may be the friend of budh. Both these attributes are in Saturn only. (That is why, Pujya Pandit Ji did not told to wear a BEJOD-ring of silver or copper) At other side it can control hidden bad activities of rahu supporting Budh. So BEJOD (Open ended)RING AT LAST FINGER (Which is directly concerned with budh ) is a remedy. Otherwise wearing Budh for malefic Budh ,how much proper ,all of u can analyze. Even Respected Pandit ji written-- KHAALIS FAULAD JISE JANG (Rust = Rahu) NA LAGNE PAAYE…………JIS KADAR JYADAA CHAMAKDAAR SAAF SUTHRAA HOGAA USI KADAR LAMP MAIN SAAF CHIMNEY YA BIJLI KEE LEHAR KE LIYE BALB KA KAAM DEGA AUR BHAGYA KI SOYEE HUYEE LEHAR KO FAURAN JAGAA DEGAA .Wat a similey used by Pandit ji –Evil Electric waves of Rahu- part of Budh can be modified as a light of lamp of good luck. So much equal to the power & use of electricity in modern age. It means pure Saturn ,even> which would not be covered by Rahu (Rust), then how it can be used it in the shape of Budh. All of all, only Saturn's establishment at Budh is motive there & it is clearly written in lalkitab.> With readings of this revered book, In my opinion--Making Ring completely rounded will disturb the remedy ,even it may be TAANKE WAALI or MOULDED. Making it jointless with two ends is a establishment of saturn with a path for Jupiter into budh under the supervision of Saturn.(Ya aise bola jaye ki budh ke daayre main brihaspati ki havaa ka raastaa denaa hoga. Isee vazah se hee Budh 12 ke liye kesar ka TILAK bhi kahaa gayaa hai taaki budh ka masnuyee walaa guru ka hissa(Part) theek ho jaye use POWER miley aur Pujya Pandit ji ne to yah bhi likhaa hai ki RAAKH (Budh) KA TILAK PITA (Guru) PAR BHAAREE HOGAA. Means establishment of BUDH by TILAK of RAAKH will create distruction at all.So it is very clear that eastablishment of budh has been totally denied & once Budh is denied totally,how it is possible to accept as a remedial tool again, It is the reason that endless ring also will be denied .Or we can say Saturn is as a medium or middle-man> there only. > > With regards > Pt.Lalkitabee> > , Yograj Prabhakar yr_prabhakar@ wrote:> >> > Respected Dr. Kiranjit Sahib,> > > > So many techniques are discussed for making Joint Less Steel Rings, Like the Dhalayi Wala method as mentioned by you, and by cutting a pipe suggested earlier by some other colleague. > > > > As far as the Dhalayi Wala method is concerned, it is perfectly alright. But there is a problem in Pipe cutting method, most of the pipes have joint, whereas we require a seamless pipe for this purpose, and seamless pipes are not easily available and are much more costlier than the normal ones. Moreover pipes have a fixed inner dia like 12mm, 19mm, 25mm and so on, so making a ring by cutting pipe (even the seamless one) is not a wise idea.> > > > The best way is to prepare the Joint less ring is by drilling a steel rod as per the finger thickness, this can be done on a lathe machine by a machine man quite easily, all you need is to find a willing machine man.> > > > Finally, you have said that every round thing is not necessarily a representative of Budh, can you elaborate this point for a student like me?> > > > With regards> > Yograj Prabhakar.> > > > > > kiranjit kumar kapatjal@ wrote: > > dear Friends,> > There is no doubt that "bejod' stands for without a joint or 'tanka'(goldsmith's language) i.e. the silver bangle has to be made by a workman who makes it by DHALAI. These workmen r now difficult to find with the result that the practiotioners of lk started talking of pipes etc.> > the same is for steel ring for budh 12. where ever the word is "bejod" it is dhalai wala i.e. pouring the molten metal into a sancha. As mentioned earlier also, every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh.> > wih best wishes;> > sincerely,> > kiranjeet > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time> > with the Search movie showtime shortcut.> > > > > > > > > > > > TV dinner still cooling?> > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on TV.> >> > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us.> Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Respected Yograj ji, For each one of us, who is a student of Lal Kitab, Pandit ji is poojneeya, and anusarneeya. Assuming that he suggested a completely closed steel chaalla for budh in 12th then would you agree that Pandit ji wanted to establish budh and not Saturn? If so, don’t you think we should try to find the logic behind this? What Pt. Lalkitabee ji has done is to prove that the intention of Pandit ji was to establish Saturn in its purest form. In other words he took the help of Saturn to suppress budh because Saturn alone has all the three qualities of : being a friend of mercury, one who is not hostile to Jupiter and can also keep rahu in control. We are discussing the issue dispassionately and academically and none of us can ever dream of going contrary to what Pandit ji has said. For all of us he is the last word. But it is always better to understand the logic behind the upaya so that other upaya can be devised keeping in mind the karaks and the principles of Lal Kitab. With regards and utmost respect, Varun Trivedi , Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar wrote: > > Acharya Lalkitabee ji Maharaj, > > Ap Lal Kitab Jyotish Mein Ek Khas Reputation Rakhtey Hain, Jis Ke Aas-Paas Bhi Pahunch Paana Kum-Az-Kum Mujh Jaise Haqeer Insaan Ke Toh Bootey Ki Baat Nahi Hai. Main Badey Adab-O-khaloos Se Do Baatein Kehne Ki Ijaazat Chahoonga. > > 1. Meharbani kar ke Zara Ghaur se Dekhiye ki is Nacheez ne kya arz kiya hai . Jisko Ap Kaano Ki Suni Farma Rahe hain, Wo Pundit Ji ke Mukharvind Se Nikla Huya Aadesh hai, Us Aadesh Ko Koyi Aur Beshaq Kisi Tarah Bhi Ley, Magar Mere Liye Woh Utimate Aur Absolute hai. > > 2. Mere Ajeez Dost, Ankhan Ki Dekhi Ko Maine Jis Sandarbh Mein Istehmaal Kiya hai Meharbaani Karke Ap Usko Usi Sandarbh Mein Hi Dekhein. Kyon Ki Agar Hum Muddey se Bahar Jakar Kori Laffazee Aur Filmi Dialogues Baazi Mein Ulajh Jayengey to Ye Poori Ki Poori Discussion Mehaz Zehnee-Ayyashi Ban Kar Reh Jayegi. > > > Respectfully > Yograj Prabhakar. > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Respected Yograj ji > A scholar of lalkitab like u , who never goes beyond the single word of this revered book, even who was so careful to the use of MOOL LALKITAB that couldn't tolerated the use of words like " MASLAN " & " JAISE " (EVEN BOTH HAVE SAME MEANINGS.).Kisi ko yah achchha lagaa ya nahi lekin mujhe aapkaa yah tarikaa bahut achchha lagaa tha.But a person who was so strict at this issue to use of ORIGINAL BOOK. Alas! today the same person is advicing me to believe " AAANKHAN DEKHI " only. In fact there is so much written prooves r available in KAGAD KI LEKHI. > If AANKHAN KI DEKHI WAS SO SUFFIECIENT ,THEN Y & FOR WHAT WE SHUD READ LALKITAB & for what purpose it was written ? The person who used the word as DALDA BOOK, for the use of other books based upon original book & appriciated the use of original book only , even prescribed to read URDU WRITTEN book only. Today he is saying to believe only AANKHAN DEKHI. > As u r saying me:- Tu kehta Kagad Ki Lekhi > Main Kehta Ankhan Ki Dekhi. > I want to recall u with humble words that :- 1.KAGAD KI LEKHI IS MOST RELIABLE > 2.ANKHAN KI DEKHI IS MORE RELIABLE > 3.KAANO KI SUNI IS LESS RELIABLE > And u r confessing urself in ur mail that u r saying KAANO KI SUNI, not aankhan ki dekhi.(U can re-read ur mail for confirmation) > As well as my colorful artical, " U can see all colors were used to provide a grasp to the subject, for a reader. Specially for them who use quotes from lalkitab. And other side i want to say that i didnt saw Pujya Pandit Ji, but i see his image 1st of all, which is available at www.originallalkitab.com ,bfor making a write- up .After this I read & use only KAGAD KI LEKHI " by Pujya Pandit Ji ,as per my capability & understanding.AB AAP HEE KAHO KI MAIN KAANO KI SUNI PAR BHAROSAA KAROON YA PANDIT JI KE DWARA KHUD LIKHI HUYEE KITAB PAR BHAROSAA KAROON. > Only Lalkitab is a live statue of Pujya Pandit Ji for me, no any other way. If there is any other way, nesseccery to confirm from lalkitab or according to the rules of lalkitab bfor acceptance. > With Regards > Pt.Lalkitabee > , Yograj Prabhakar <yr_prabhakar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Vipin Shukla Ji, > > It is yet another very impressive and colorful description indeed Vipin Bhai. Why a Bejod Chhalla is recommended, what is the logic behind this remedy, how it works and how many planets are involved in the whole process is a separate issue. But I disagree to agree with your perception regarding the description/specification of a Bejod Chhalla. In my humble opinion it should be (rather must be) nothing but a totally seamless one, no matter whether it is prepared by cutting, molding or any other method. > > > > Believe me, my conviction is not baseless. I know many people whom Pundit ji recommended the rings in question and strictly advised them to procure the seamless ones only. Therefore, for me Pundit jis diktat is absolute and conclusive since I am a more practical guy rather than a theoretical one. I am quoting the following lines of Sant Kabir ji to clarify my stance (certainty not intended to offend a good friend like you): > > > > Tu kehta Kagad Ki Lekhi > > Main Kehta Ankhan Ki Dekhi. > > > > Finally, one humble request to you, kindly use single color and font in your writings. Ornate presentations somehow diminish the very spirit of your otherwise brilliant script. > > > > Respectfully > > Yograj Prabhakar > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee lalkitabee@ wrote: > > Respected Yograj ji, KiranJit Ji & Geeta ji, > > I was reading views written by all of u about BEJOD CHHALLA. I have some opinion of mine & i want to share here.All of u r prooving the meaning of BEJOD Challa. As wel as i can say the word has been used for budh ,specially for khana no.12 budh. > > Bfor continue next i want to say , " Yes,every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh.But in perview of remedy of lalkitab it will be counted of budh 1st of all , after that we have to see its metal etc for sub-planetry object. > > Again im coming to the point .Here is the question:- > > 1. Y Budh is remediable in 12th ? > > 2. If it is remediable , what modus operandi will be useful ? > > 3. Y Pujya Pandit ji said Iron made BEJOD FAULAD KA CHALLA ? > > (a).Is there was a motive to establish BUDH? > > (b)Is there was a motive to establish SATURN ? > > Ans No. 1:- In the very bigining of lalkitab has been written --- YAHEE CHAKKAR MAIN DAALE RAKHNE KI DUSHMANI BARHASPAT (jup.) SE BUDH KO HOGI. (Here is clear that budh is enemy of Jupiter & in khana no 12 it is NEECh, as well as there is partnership of Neech Rahu in khana no12th so with the role of his friend rahu ,the Budh reveals itself to fulfil its rival nature to Jupiter,Now Neech budh wants to eatablish the empire of neech rahu.Bcoz if we see masnuyee of Budh (Guru+ Rahu) ,the we can analyze the Role of Rahu in 12th. In fact it spreads its mean or evil activities, so it is remediable Rahu to bura hogaa hee chahey asal rahu khana 6 main hee kyon na baithaa ho aise main mandey rahu ka bhi upay budh ke upay se pehley kar denaa shayad hi koyee faydaa pahunchaa sakey > > > > Ans.2. Now wat to do? Clearly written in lalkitab for budh of khana no.12 :- > > 4 CHHATHEY (6th) 9 ,12 MAAREY, 3 DOOJAA NAHI BACHTAA HO > > GURU RAAHU KHUD JAD SE KATtEY, SUKHIYAA RAANI NA RAJA HO > > SHANI RAVI KOYEE 12 BAITHEY ASAR JEHAR NA UN PAR HO. > > SAATH SAATHI GRAH SHATRU HOTE JEHAR SHANI MAIN BHARTAA HO > > Now Pujya Pandit ji used to establish Saturn at budh & himself said shani & Ravi will reduce the poison of Budh.In this perview Pandit ji suggested BEJOD FAULAD KA CHHALLA (jise jod ya taankaa na lagaa ho, means open ended) > > The conflict is here to know about wat is BEJOD. I saw many opinions at this. I want to say that Pandit ji could use the word --- dhalaayee main dhaal kar banyaa huyaa ya dhalaa hua . It was not a rare word at that time.Plz read my observations with the lalkitab verdicts. > > Ans no.3 a :- At other side clearly said --- JOD YA TAANKAA NA LAGAA HO. ( It means jod or welding will include Rahu with budh & it will give bad effects.) As wel as, about one peace without joint or moulded ring , it will be Budh's impact at shani. Here is no lozic to mix budh & shani or establishing Budh > > .Ans No.3b :- Here clear lozic is to establish a planet which may be respectful to guru & may be the friend of budh. Both these attributes are in Saturn only. (That is why, Pujya Pandit Ji did not told to wear a BEJOD-ring of silver or copper) At other side it can control hidden bad activities of rahu supporting Budh. So BEJOD (Open ended)RING AT LAST FINGER (Which is directly concerned with budh ) is a remedy. Otherwise wearing Budh for malefic Budh ,how much proper ,all of u can analyze. Even Respected Pandit ji written-- KHAALIS FAULAD JISE JANG (Rust = Rahu) NA LAGNE PAAYE…………JIS KADAR JYADAA CHAMAKDAAR SAAF SUTHRAA HOGAA USI KADAR LAMP MAIN SAAF CHIMNEY YA BIJLI KEE LEHAR KE LIYE BALB KA KAAM DEGA AUR BHAGYA KI SOYEE HUYEE LEHAR KO FAURAN JAGAA DEGAA .Wat a similey used by Pandit ji –Evil Electric waves of Rahu- part of Budh can be modified as a light of lamp of good luck. So much equal to the power & use of electricity in modern age. It means pure Saturn ,even > > which would not be covered by Rahu (Rust), then how it can be used it in the shape of Budh. All of all, only Saturn's establishment at Budh is motive there & it is clearly written in lalkitab. > > With readings of this revered book, In my opinion--Making Ring completely rounded will disturb the remedy ,even it may be TAANKE WAALI or MOULDED. Making it jointless with two ends is a establishment of saturn with a path for Jupiter into budh under the supervision of Saturn.(Ya aise bola jaye ki budh ke daayre main brihaspati ki havaa ka raastaa denaa hoga. Isee vazah se hee Budh 12 ke liye kesar ka TILAK bhi kahaa gayaa hai taaki budh ka masnuyee walaa guru ka hissa(Part) theek ho jaye use POWER miley aur Pujya Pandit ji ne to yah bhi likhaa hai ki RAAKH (Budh) KA TILAK PITA (Guru) PAR BHAAREE HOGAA. Means establishment of BUDH by TILAK of RAAKH will create distruction at all.So it is very clear that eastablishment of budh has been totally denied & once Budh is denied totally,how it is possible to accept as a remedial tool again, It is the reason that endless ring also will be denied .Or we can say Saturn is as a medium or middle-man > > there only. > > > > With regards > > Pt.Lalkitabee > > > > , Yograj Prabhakar yr_prabhakar@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected Dr. Kiranjit Sahib, > > > > > > So many techniques are discussed for making Joint Less Steel Rings, Like the Dhalayi Wala method as mentioned by you, and by cutting a pipe suggested earlier by some other colleague. > > > > > > As far as the Dhalayi Wala method is concerned, it is perfectly alright. But there is a problem in Pipe cutting method, most of the pipes have joint, whereas we require a seamless pipe for this purpose, and seamless pipes are not easily available and are much more costlier than the normal ones. Moreover pipes have a fixed inner dia like 12mm, 19mm, 25mm and so on, so making a ring by cutting pipe (even the seamless one) is not a wise idea. > > > > > > The best way is to prepare the Joint less ring is by drilling a steel rod as per the finger thickness, this can be done on a lathe machine by a machine man quite easily, all you need is to find a willing machine man. > > > > > > Finally, you have said that every round thing is not necessarily a representative of Budh, can you elaborate this point for a student like me? > > > > > > With regards > > > Yograj Prabhakar. > > > > > > > > > kiranjit kumar kapatjal@ wrote: > > > dear Friends, > > > There is no doubt that " bejod' stands for without a joint or 'tanka'(goldsmith's language) i.e. the silver bangle has to be made by a workman who makes it by DHALAI. These workmen r now difficult to find with the result that the practiotioners of lk started talking of pipes etc. > > > the same is for steel ring for budh 12. where ever the word is " bejod " it is dhalai wala i.e. pouring the molten metal into a sancha. As mentioned earlier also, every round thing is not necessarily a representative of budh. > > > wih best wishes; > > > sincerely, > > > kiranjeet > > > > > > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > > > with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TV dinner still cooling? > > > Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > > > Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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