Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Om Seshaanjaneya Namaha Om AATHREYA - Dr.BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju ( RBK Murthy ) 27 Mackay Drive , Marlborough , Massachusetts 01752 - 1935 , U S A Cell : 508 - 265 - 1124 < dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramaraju > < dr.ramaraju.balakrishnamurthy > AATHREYA - NETHER WORLDS There are Seven Nether or Under Worlds. Depending upon the situation , Earth may occupy the position of Upper Worlds as It probably did in Sathya , Threthaa Yugams and to certain extent in Dwaapara Yug, but gradually It may be slipping into a part of Under World System. Sanaathana Vedic Rishis were wise enough to realise this , but Great that They are , They recognized the importance of Our Solar System and gave a Pre eminent status to Sun . But some egoists thought that The Universe is Geo-centric and intolerant of people who thought otherwise. Ultimately wiser counsels prevailed and all people came to accept the Sanaathana Vedic Rishi view point that The Universe is Helio-centric. Om Thath Sath. Om Shaanthi. Now all is not lost in Under worlds - in fact the description, Upper and Under in relation to Earth is only relative. The Seven Nether or Under Worlds are as follows : - 1. Athalam , 2. Vithalam , 3. Suthalam , 4. Thalaathalam , 5. Mahaathalam , 6. Rasaathalam and 7. PaathaaLam. Please note ' Sthalam " is derived from ' Thalam ' . Sthalam means Bhoothalam = Earth , meaning Earth is neither Upper nor Under and as mentioned before it may fit into either of descriptions. Yama Dharma Raaja Naraka Lokam , Naaga LOkam are part of these Under Worlds. There are some Great people inhabiting These Under Worlds . Mahaa Bali Chakravarthi is one of the Greatest biding His time there waiting for the time He can assume the post of Indra Padavi.and move to Amaraavathi. SankarhaNa and Aadi Sesha are there . Aadisesha is in charge of PaathaaLamand is performing the stupendous task of bearing the Universe on His 1000 heads with Mahaa Vishnu resting on His coils. Mahi RaavaNa aka MairaavaNa once ruled over one of these Under Worlds. Om Pithru- Maathrubhyo Namaha Om. Last and Final - Send off to Pithrus - To Be Continued. Rutham Vachmi , Sathyam Vachmi - Avathu Maam..Saanthi. Maam Rutham Vadishyaami - Maam Sathyam Vadishyaami . Truth , Whole Truth , Nothing But Truth. So Be It. Om Thath Sath ; aathreya - dr. r b krishna murthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Hi Prabhu, Pranam........................ You never answered my question ......................... I will humbly ask again.......................... I am sorry for writing in capitals............... The group/forum comment was appreciated................... I did not know I will offend your esteem members.................. Where/Which loka the jiva came form...............??????? How would you know whick loka in my present lifetime................. I came from.......??????????....................it's only one question...................... Radhe Radhe syama................. BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju <dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramaraju wrote: Om Seshaanjaneya Namaha Om AATHREYA - Dr.BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju ( RBK Murthy ) 27 Mackay Drive , Marlborough , Massachusetts 01752 - 1935 , U S A Cell : 508 - 265 - 1124 < dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramaraju > < dr.ramaraju.balakrishnamurthy > AATHREYA - NETHER WORLDS There are Seven Nether or Under Worlds. Depending upon the situation , Earth may occupy the position of Upper Worlds as It probably did in Sathya , Threthaa Yugams and to certain extent in Dwaapara Yug, but gradually It may be slipping into a part of Under World System. Sanaathana Vedic Rishis were wise enough to realise this , but Great that They are , They recognized the importance of Our Solar System and gave a Pre eminent status to Sun . But some egoists thought that The Universe is Geo-centric and intolerant of people who thought otherwise. Ultimately wiser counsels prevailed and all people came to accept the Sanaathana Vedic Rishi view point that The Universe is Helio-centric. Om Thath Sath. Om Shaanthi. Now all is not lost in Under worlds - in fact the description, Upper and Under in relation to Earth is only relative. The Seven Nether or Under Worlds are as follows : - 1. Athalam , 2. Vithalam , 3. Suthalam , 4. Thalaathalam , 5. Mahaathalam , 6. Rasaathalam and 7. PaathaaLam. Please note ' Sthalam " is derived from ' Thalam ' . Sthalam means Bhoothalam = Earth , meaning Earth is neither Upper nor Under and as mentioned before it may fit into either of descriptions. Yama Dharma Raaja Naraka Lokam , Naaga LOkam are part of these Under Worlds. There are some Great people inhabiting These Under Worlds . Mahaa Bali Chakravarthi is one of the Greatest biding His time there waiting for the time He can assume the post of Indra Padavi.and move to Amaraavathi. SankarhaNa and Aadi Sesha are there . Aadisesha is in charge of PaathaaLamand is performing the stupendous task of bearing the Universe on His 1000 heads with Mahaa Vishnu resting on His coils. Mahi RaavaNa aka MairaavaNa once ruled over one of these Under Worlds. Om Pithru- Maathrubhyo Namaha Om. Last and Final - Send off to Pithrus - To Be Continued. Rutham Vachmi , Sathyam Vachmi - Avathu Maam..Saanthi. Maam Rutham Vadishyaami - Maam Sathyam Vadishyaami . Truth , Whole Truth , Nothing But Truth. So Be It. Om Thath Sath ; aathreya - dr. r b krishna murthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Hi Prabhu, Pranam........................ You never answered my question ......................... I will humbly ask again.......................... I am sorry for writing in capitals............... The group/forum comment was appreciated................... I did not know I will offend your esteem members.................. Where/Which loka the jiva came form...............??????? How would you know whick loka in my present lifetime................. I came from.......??????????....................it's only one question...................... Radhe Radhe syama................. BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju <dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramaraju wrote: Om Seshaanjaneya Namaha Om AATHREYA - Dr.BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju ( RBK Murthy ) 27 Mackay Drive , Marlborough , Massachusetts 01752 - 1935 , U S A Cell : 508 - 265 - 1124 < dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramaraju > < dr.ramaraju.balakrishnamurthy > AATHREYA - NETHER WORLDS There are Seven Nether or Under Worlds. Depending upon the situation , Earth may occupy the position of Upper Worlds as It probably did in Sathya , Threthaa Yugams and to certain extent in Dwaapara Yug, but gradually It may be slipping into a part of Under World System. Sanaathana Vedic Rishis were wise enough to realise this , but Great that They are , They recognized the importance of Our Solar System and gave a Pre eminent status to Sun . But some egoists thought that The Universe is Geo-centric and intolerant of people who thought otherwise. Ultimately wiser counsels prevailed and all people came to accept the Sanaathana Vedic Rishi view point that The Universe is Helio-centric. Om Thath Sath. Om Shaanthi. Now all is not lost in Under worlds - in fact the description, Upper and Under in relation to Earth is only relative. The Seven Nether or Under Worlds are as follows : - 1. Athalam , 2. Vithalam , 3. Suthalam , 4. Thalaathalam , 5. Mahaathalam , 6. Rasaathalam and 7. PaathaaLam. Please note ' Sthalam " is derived from ' Thalam ' . Sthalam means Bhoothalam = Earth , meaning Earth is neither Upper nor Under and as mentioned before it may fit into either of descriptions. Yama Dharma Raaja Naraka Lokam , Naaga LOkam are part of these Under Worlds. There are some Great people inhabiting These Under Worlds . Mahaa Bali Chakravarthi is one of the Greatest biding His time there waiting for the time He can assume the post of Indra Padavi.and move to Amaraavathi. SankarhaNa and Aadi Sesha are there . Aadisesha is in charge of PaathaaLamand is performing the stupendous task of bearing the Universe on His 1000 heads with Mahaa Vishnu resting on His coils. Mahi RaavaNa aka MairaavaNa once ruled over one of these Under Worlds. Om Pithru- Maathrubhyo Namaha Om. Last and Final - Send off to Pithrus - To Be Continued. Rutham Vachmi , Sathyam Vachmi - Avathu Maam..Saanthi. Maam Rutham Vadishyaami - Maam Sathyam Vadishyaami . Truth , Whole Truth , Nothing But Truth. So Be It. Om Thath Sath ; aathreya - dr. r b krishna murthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 dear friend you may get answers to your queries on this note on soul travel which i wrote in response to a similar mail few months ago in the group. a person takes rebirth again based on the good and bad deeds committed by him or her in the previous birth. a person having done merits is born in a punya yoni (good person) and a person having done sins is born in a paapa yoni (bad person). those having done many many sins take several births and rebirths as insects, worms and other tiny creatures and their life and death cycles end in very short durations also. besides the merits and sins, the desires of the native at the time of death also indicate the next birth of the native. beyond the planet saturn, there are 21 naraka lokams which are collectively called naraka lokam. Once a person passes away, the death is only to the body having nava randhras which decays and when burned in the pyre, only ash remains and even that ash is immersed in the rivers and at the end NOTHING remains out of the body. The soul or atman which is the invisible life force of all sentient beings departs the body. If the native have desires left, he or she will have rebirth in such creatures related to these desires. Very few persons who have become desireless, they will not have rebirth and go to other lokas based on their merits. There are various slokas in the 8th chapter of gita which explain the course of atma after death. It says that thinking of whatever object at the time of death a person leaves the body, he attains that very object being constantly absorbed in its thought. Who remembers god alone at the time of death, attains him (the god) only. Those who attain the god will have no more birth cycles. The two routes (gatis) that the soul undertakes are mentioned in the gita as uttarayanam and dakshinayanam and likens them to having rebirth and salvation. If you read the entire eighth chapter of gita, most of your doubts will be clarified. In one verse in yajurveda also, it is mentioned that the soul takes one of these two routes which is between the devaloka (svargaloka) and the bhuloka. In shiva purana, uma samhita, 19th chapter, sanatkumara describes the bhuloka as the place to the extent to which the rays of the sun and the moon shine and illuminate. The bhuvarloka and svargaloka are above the earth and beneath the pole star. In the bhuvarloka sages of great siddhis stay in the form of gods. In the svarga loka gods, adityas, marutas, vasus, twin asvinis, visvedevas, rudras, sadhyas, nagas, khagas etc. stay. Above these bhuvarloka and svargalokas are located the planets sun, moon, mercury, venus, mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Above them is the sapta rishi mandalam and then the dhruva (pole star). A crore yojanas above the pole star is the maharloka where the seven sons of brahma are stationed viz. sanaka, sananda, sanatana, kapila, asuri, vodhu and pancasikha. Then janaloka, tapoloka and satya loka are located. Satyaloka is also known as brahmaloka where pureminded perfectly wise bachelors engaged in truthful virtues stay and such men from earth also stay there. In sankalpam of all poojas, these seven lokas are mentioned succinctly while reciting bhu, bhuva, sva, maha, jana, tapa, satya. NASA has established the existence of various galaxies and worlds beyond the solar system. the solar system in general and bhulokam in particular are the areas of their research presently. the vedas and puranas which were written several thousands of years ago have established these theories and have even given the precise distances of each of these lokams from planet earth. without the help of spaceshuttles, an enlightened yogi can undertake astral travel and visit all these lokams. an enlightened yogi can even make himself look like several people in several shapes at the same time and instances of such things done by gods and sages are numerous in our scriputres. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com vedic astrology , 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 wrote: > > Hi Prabhu, > Pranam........................ > You never answered my question ......................... > I will humbly ask again.......................... > > I am sorry for writing in capitals............... > The group/forum comment was appreciated................... > I did not know I will offend your esteem members.................. > > Where/Which loka the jiva came form...............??????? > How would you know whick loka in my present lifetime................. > I came from.......??????????....................it's only one question...................... > > Radhe Radhe > > syama................. > > > > > > BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju <dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramaraju wrote: > Om Seshaanjaneya Namaha Om > > AATHREYA - Dr.BalaKrishna Murthy Ramaraju > > ( RBK Murthy ) > > 27 Mackay Drive , Marlborough , > > Massachusetts 01752 - 1935 , U S A > > Cell : 508 - 265 - 1124 > > < dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramaraju > > > < dr.ramaraju.balakrishnamurthy > > > AATHREYA - NETHER WORLDS > > There are Seven Nether or Under Worlds. > > Depending upon the situation , Earth may occupy the > > position of Upper Worlds as It probably did in Sathya , > > Threthaa Yugams and to certain extent in Dwaapara Yug, > > but gradually It may be slipping into a part of Under World > > System. Sanaathana Vedic Rishis were wise enough to > > realise this , but Great that They are , They recognized the > > importance of Our Solar System and gave a Pre eminent > > status to Sun . But some egoists thought that The Universe > > is Geo-centric and intolerant of people who thought otherwise. > > Ultimately wiser counsels prevailed and all people came to > > accept the Sanaathana Vedic Rishi view point that The > > Universe is Helio-centric. Om Thath Sath. Om Shaanthi. > > Now all is not lost in Under worlds - in fact the description, > > Upper and Under in relation to Earth is only relative. > > The Seven Nether or Under Worlds are as follows : - > > 1. Athalam , 2. Vithalam , 3. Suthalam , 4. Thalaathalam , > > 5. Mahaathalam , 6. Rasaathalam and 7. PaathaaLam. > > Please note ' Sthalam " is derived from ' Thalam ' . > > Sthalam means Bhoothalam = Earth , meaning Earth is > > neither Upper nor Under and as mentioned before it may fit > > into either of descriptions. > > Yama Dharma Raaja Naraka Lokam , Naaga LOkam are part of > > these Under Worlds. There are some Great people inhabiting > > These Under Worlds . Mahaa Bali Chakravarthi is one of the > > Greatest biding His time there waiting for the time He can assume > > the post of Indra Padavi.and move to Amaraavathi. > > SankarhaNa and Aadi Sesha are there . Aadisesha is in charge > > of PaathaaLamand is performing the stupendous task of bearing > > the Universe on His 1000 heads with Mahaa Vishnu resting on > > His coils. Mahi RaavaNa aka MairaavaNa once ruled over one > > of these Under Worlds. Om Pithru- Maathrubhyo Namaha Om. > > Last and Final - Send off to Pithrus - To Be Continued. > > Rutham Vachmi , Sathyam Vachmi - Avathu Maam..Saanthi. > > Maam Rutham Vadishyaami - Maam Sathyam Vadishyaami . > > Truth , Whole Truth , Nothing But Truth. So Be It. > > Om Thath Sath ; aathreya - dr. r b krishna murthy > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 The Lokams from whence Pithrus came depends on Them aswell as how the descendents were doing their expected duty towards Pithrus . aathreya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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