Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 SIHA wrote: Hello dear list members, The coming stationary influence of Rahu/Ketu axis from March to May, 2005, shows omnious developments for US and its leadership and the first half of the 2005 is going to be quite challenging. Some terrorists activity and/or natural calamity is seen. It is likely to impact the stock markets. Best wishes, -- signature Sally Spencer Enlightened Living Services http://www.Devi3.byregion.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 I sent this without the saying, Thank you Professor. Aloha, Sally I see the natal Venus and Saturn afflicted...Saturn is in the fifth. Sally Spencer wrote: SIHA wrote: Hello dear list members, The coming stationary influence of Rahu/Ketu axis from March to May, 2005, shows omnious developments for US and its leadership and the first half of the 2005 is going to be quite challenging. Some terrorists activity and/or natural calamity is seen. It is likely to impact the stock markets. Best wishes, -- signature Sally Spencer Enlightened Living Services http://www.Devi3.byregion.net -- signature Sally Spencer Enlightened Living Services http://www.Devi3.byregion.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2004 Report Share Posted December 30, 2004 Dear Professor, Thank you for this prediction. According with the USA chart recently rectified on SAMVA, this malefic influence of Rahu/Ketu axis over natal Mars, L6, is exact on 8 March 2005 but can be felt 2 weeks before i.e. since 23 February 2005. Between 5 and 15 of March, transit Mars will be afflicted by natal Mars. Between 2 and 10 of March 2005, transit Venus will be afflicting MEP4/MEP10. Transit Saturn, L4, will be weak in H8 from middle of January 2005 to the end of May 2005. In the first 3 weeks of January, transit Venus, L12, will still be conjunct transit Mercury, L11, which can affect the currency and stock market as well. Best wishes, Jorge SIHA [siha] sexta-feira, 31 de Dezembro de 2004 02:54 satva Cc: SAMVA TRANSIT INFLUENCES Hello dear list members, The coming stationary influence of Rahu/Ketu axis from March to May, 2005, shows omnious developments for US and its leadership and the first half of the 2005 is going to be quite challenging. Some terrorists activity and/or natural calamity is seen. It is likely to impact the stock markets. Best wishes, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 hello Mr Choudhry is there anyway to work out how to get precision into the events i.e terror attack....what signifes a terror attack, a stock market crash astrologically? rgdsSIHA <siha wrote: Hello dear list members,The coming stationary influence of Rahu/Ketu axis from March to May, 2005,shows omnious developments for US and its leadership and the first half ofthe 2005 is going to be quite challenging. Some terrorists activity and/ornatural calamity is seen. It is likely to impact the stock markets.Best wishes, Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 hello Mr Choudhry is there anyway to work out how to get precision into the events i.e terror attack....what signifes a terror attack, a stock market crash astrologically? rgds SIHA <siha wrote: Hello dear list members, The coming stationary influence of Rahu/Ketu axis from March to May, 2005, shows omnious developments for US and its leadership and the first half of the 2005 is going to be quite challenging. Some terrorists activity and/or natural calamity is seen. It is likely to impact the stock markets. Best wishes, Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Dear Professor, I was doing a forward of a message sent to SAMVA coming from Mr. Amit Gupta. Best wishes, Jorge Jorge Angelino [jorge.angelino] sexta-feira, 31 de Dezembro de 2004 13:35 SAMVA RE: TRANSIT INFLUENCES hello Mr Choudhry is there anyway to work out how to get precision into the events i.e terror attack....what signifes a terror attack, a stock market crash astrologically? rgds SIHA <siha wrote: Hello dear list members, The coming stationary influence of Rahu/Ketu axis from March to May, 2005, shows omnious developments for US and its leadership and the first half of the 2005 is going to be quite challenging. Some terrorists activity and/or natural calamity is seen. It is likely to impact the stock markets. Best wishes, Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hello Mr. Amit Gupta, The stationary influence on the lord of the fourth house simultaneous to the natal Rahu and Ketu can cover all the areas included in my prediction. Best wishes, - " amit gupta " <vegasquared <SAMVA > Friday, December 31, 2004 6:53 PM Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES > hello Mr Choudhry > > is there anyway to work out how to get precision into the events > i.e terror attack....what signifes a terror attack, a stock market crash astrologically? > > rgds > > SIHA <siha wrote: > Hello dear list members, > > The coming stationary influence of Rahu/Ketu axis from March to May, 2005, > shows omnious developments for US and its leadership and the first half of > the 2005 is going to be quite challenging. Some terrorists activity and/or > natural calamity is seen. It is likely to impact the stock markets. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 > >Dear Professor. What chart are you using for your prediction on the U.S. ? Best wishes for the New Year. Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hello Mr. Chuck, For my subject prediction I have used the chart of GWB. Best wishes, - " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 <SAMVA > Friday, December 31, 2004 9:39 PM Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES > > > >Dear Professor. What chart are you using for your prediction on > the U.S. ? Best wishes for the New Year. Chuck > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Dear Professor, I am not familiar with this chart for USA. Could you please send coordinates and chart (my software won't give info. on a chart that old). Or send a reference email where I could see this information. What led to the change from the Grimes chart? Many thanks, John > " SIHA " <siha > SAMVA > Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:05:42 +0530 > <SAMVA > > Re: Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES > > > Hello Mr. Chuck, > > For my subject prediction I have used the chart of GWB. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 > <SAMVA > > Friday, December 31, 2004 9:39 PM > Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES > > >> >>>> Dear Professor. What chart are you using for your prediction on >> the U.S. ? Best wishes for the New Year. Chuck >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2004 Report Share Posted December 31, 2004 Hello my dear Mr. Maguire, GWB chart means the chart of President, George Bush. Best wishes, - " JOHN MAGUIRE " <jam939 <SAMVA > Friday, December 31, 2004 10:52 PM Re: Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES > Dear Professor, > > I am not familiar with this chart for USA. Could you please send coordinates > and chart (my software won't give info. on a chart that old). Or send a > reference email where I could see this information. > > What led to the change from the Grimes chart? > > Many thanks, > John > > > " SIHA " <siha > > SAMVA > > Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:05:42 +0530 > > <SAMVA > > > Re: Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES > > > > > > Hello Mr. Chuck, > > > > For my subject prediction I have used the chart of GWB. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > - > > " wakefieldvedic " <radiopro55 > > <SAMVA > > > Friday, December 31, 2004 9:39 PM > > Re: TRANSIT INFLUENCES > > > > > >> > >>>> Dear Professor. What chart are you using for your prediction on > >> the U.S. ? Best wishes for the New Year. Chuck > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Hello Ms Sally, Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist activity, injuries, etc. Best wishes, - " Sally Spencer " <sally234 " SAMVA " <SAMVA > Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM Transit Influences > Dear Professor, > > Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market? Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country.. > > Thanks. Sally > > > >I saw the transit influences in the chart > >of GWB and made predictions. > > > >The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to > >May, 2005. > > > >The country (part of the world) is specified as US. > > > >The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity and > >it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural > >calamity. > > > >During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively affected. > > > >The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit > >conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes > >conjunct. > > > -- > Sally Spencer > Enlightened Living Services > http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Thank you Professor. It's so simple when you explain it. Aloha, Sally Best Wishes, Sally SIHA wrote: > > Hello Ms Sally, > > Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The > involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist > activity, injuries, etc. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " Sally Spencer " <sally234 > " SAMVA " <SAMVA > > Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM > Transit Influences > > > >>Dear Professor, >> >> Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on > > that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that > homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter > and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu > in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market? > Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country.. > >> Thanks. Sally >> >> >> >>>I saw the transit influences in the chart >>>of GWB and made predictions. >>> >>>The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to >>>May, 2005. >>> >>>The country (part of the world) is specified as US. >>> >>>The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity > > and > >>>it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural >>>calamity. >>> >>>During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively > > affected. > >>>The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit >>>conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes >>>conjunct. >> >> >>-- >>Sally Spencer >>Enlightened Living Services >>http://www.Devi3.byregion.net >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Sally/Professor and all A few more thoughts: - the rahu affliction to N VEN will fire the natal trigger of Ketu to Ven. - while Ra/ke are stationary TJUP and T jup will be afflicting N Moon - and T JUp will then retrograde to within one degree of the 3rd MEP influencing the 7th, 9th, and 11th houses, then come back over NJUp and N moon - at same time T Sat will be mutually afflicting N sat Lots of challenges here! In addition: In looking ahead at the Grimes USA chart I notice that natal 8th lord saturn will be afflicted by T rahu from 21 Jan, 2005 to 19 July, 2005, stationary exact March through May. This will be followed by T rahu afflicting T Sat and T Sat afflicting T ketu starting Sep 28 2005, both afflictions becoming direct Dec 7, 2005 then direct or within 2 degrees until April 8, 2006 and finally out of range May 30. 2006. > This is a very long period of affliction for Saturn and it would seem that oil > prices for whatever reason could fluctuate wildly. Oil is deeply rooted in the Bush history and in the bush administration war policy. Perhaps the event indicated in Pres. Bush chart will have something to do with loss of oil supply and hence affect him and the country severly. It may be just the reality becoming visible that world oil supply is as some predict on the verge of a long but steady decline. Do we have any kind of " world chart " ? John Could be quite a challanging time for him. John > Sally Spencer <sally234 > SAMVA > Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:16:10 -1000 > SAMVA > Re: Transit Influences > > > Thank you Professor. It's so simple when you explain it. Aloha, Sally > > Best Wishes, Sally > > SIHA wrote: > >> >> Hello Ms Sally, >> >> Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The >> involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist >> activity, injuries, etc. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " Sally Spencer " <sally234 >> " SAMVA " <SAMVA > >> Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM >> Transit Influences >> >> >> >>> Dear Professor, >>> >>> Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on >> >> that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that >> homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter >> and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu >> in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market? >> Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country.. >> >>> Thanks. Sally >>> >>> >>> >>>> I saw the transit influences in the chart >>>> of GWB and made predictions. >>>> >>>> The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to >>>> May, 2005. >>>> >>>> The country (part of the world) is specified as US. >>>> >>>> The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity >> >> and >> >>>> it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural >>>> calamity. >>>> >>>> During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively >> >> affected. >> >>>> The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit >>>> conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes >>>> conjunct. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sally Spencer >>> Enlightened Living Services >>> http://www.Devi3.byregion.net >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 John, members, I just read somewhere that some of the major companies are beginning to market and explore alternative fuel...maybe that will come to the fore as well.. We don't have a world chart on the SA list.. Aloha, Sally It may be just the reality becoming visible that world oil supply is as some predict on the verge of a long but steady decline. JOHN MAGUIRE wrote: Sally/Professor and all A few more thoughts: - the rahu affliction to N VEN will fire the natal trigger of Ketu to Ven. - while Ra/ke are stationary TJUP and T jup will be afflicting N Moon - and T JUp will then retrograde to within one degree of the 3rd MEP influencing the 7th, 9th, and 11th houses, then come back over NJUp and N moon - at same time T Sat will be mutually afflicting N sat Lots of challenges here! In addition: In looking ahead at the Grimes USA chart I notice that natal 8th lord saturn will be afflicted by T rahu from 21 Jan, 2005 to 19 July, 2005, stationary exact March through May. This will be followed by T rahu afflicting T Sat and T Sat afflicting T ketu starting Sep 28 2005, both afflictions becoming direct Dec 7, 2005 then direct or within 2 degrees until April 8, 2006 and finally out of range May 30. 2006. > This is a very long period of affliction for Saturn and it would seem that oil > prices for whatever reason could fluctuate wildly. Oil is deeply rooted in the Bush history and in the bush administration war policy. Perhaps the event indicated in Pres. Bush chart will have something to do with loss of oil supply and hence affect him and the country severly. It may be just the reality becoming visible that world oil supply is as some predict on the verge of a long but steady decline. Do we have any kind of "world chart"? John Could be quite a challanging time for him. John > Sally Spencer <sally234 > SAMVA > Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:16:10 -1000 > SAMVA > Re: Transit Influences > > > Thank you Professor. It's so simple when you explain it. Aloha, Sally > > Best Wishes, Sally > > SIHA wrote: > >> >> Hello Ms Sally, >> >> Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The >> involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist >> activity, injuries, etc. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> "Sally Spencer" <sally234 >> "SAMVA" <SAMVA > >> Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM >> Transit Influences >> >> >> >>> Dear Professor, >>> >>> Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on >> >> that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that >> homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter >> and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu >> in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market? >> Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country.. >> >>> Thanks. Sally >>> >>> >>> >>>> I saw the transit influences in the chart >>>> of GWB and made predictions. >>>> >>>> The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to >>>> May, 2005. >>>> >>>> The country (part of the world) is specified as US. >>>> >>>> The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity >> >> and >> >>>> it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural >>>> calamity. >>>> >>>> During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively >> >> affected. >> >>>> The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit >>>> conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes >>>> conjunct. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sally Spencer >>> Enlightened Living Services >>> http://www.Devi3.byregion.net >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Hello Mr. Maguire, Yes, lot of challenges and fluctuations in oil prices are seen. There is no world chart. Only the transit conjunctions/aspects and weakness give some insight. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 how did you come to the conclusion that oil is going down..... surely, it there are supply problems, the price will go up...note russia has in 2004 effectively driven the price of oil up.....this can easily be repeatedJOHN MAGUIRE <jam939 wrote: Sally/Professor and allA few more thoughts:- the rahu affliction to N VEN will fire the natal trigger of Ketu to Ven.- while Ra/ke are stationary TJUP and T jup will be afflicting N Moon- and T JUp will then retrograde to within one degree of the 3rd MEPinfluencing the 7th, 9th, and 11th houses, then come back over NJUp and Nmoon- at same time T Sat will be mutually afflicting N satLots of challenges here!In addition:In looking ahead at the Grimes USA chart I notice that natal 8th lordsaturn will be afflicted by T rahu from 21 Jan, 2005 to 19 July, 2005,stationary exact March through May.This will be followed by T rahu afflicting T Sat and T Sat afflicting Tketu starting Sep 28 2005, both afflictions becoming direct Dec 7, 2005then direct or within 2 degrees until April 8, 2006 andfinally out of range May 30. 2006.> This is a very long period of affliction for Saturn and it would seem that oil> prices for whatever reason could fluctuate wildly. Oil is deeply rooted in theBush history and in the bush administration war policy. Perhaps the eventindicated in Pres. Bush chart will have something to do with loss of oilsupply and hence affect him and the country severly. It may be just thereality becoming visible that world oil supply is as some predict on theverge of a long but steady decline. Do we have any kind of "world chart"?JohnCould be quite a challanging time for him.John> Sally Spencer <sally234> SAMVA > Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:16:10 -1000> SAMVA > Re: Transit Influences> > > Thank you Professor. It's so simple when you explain it. Aloha, Sally> > Best Wishes, Sally> > SIHA wrote:> >> >> Hello Ms Sally,>> >> Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The>> involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist>> activity, injuries, etc.>> >> Best wishes,>> >> >> >> ->> "Sally Spencer" <sally234>> "SAMVA" <SAMVA >>> Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM>> Transit Influences>> >> >> >>> Dear Professor,>>> >>> Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on>> >> that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that>> homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter>> and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu>> in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market?>> Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country..>> >>> Thanks. Sally>>> >>> >>> >>>> I saw the transit influences in the chart>>>> of GWB and made predictions.>>>> >>>> The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to>>>> May, 2005.>>>> >>>> The country (part of the world) is specified as US.>>>> >>>> The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity>> >> and>> >>>> it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural>>>> calamity.>>>> >>>> During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively>> >> affected.>> >>>> The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit>>>> conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes>>>> conjunct.>>> >>> >>> -->>> Sally Spencer>>> Enlightened Living Services>>> http://www.Devi3.byregion.net>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 I notice that oil prices (see http://www.oilnergy.com/1opost.htm) have averaged over $43/barrel since the first of Jan and over $45/barrel for the last 2 weeks (vs $41/barrel in Dec.) This would add support for the Grimes USA chart - nat Sat now under affliction from T rahu. Also weak/afflicted sat could be interpreted as reduced supply instead of weak (lower) prices as has sometimes been mentioned in this group. Prices will always rise as supply declines. John > JOHN MAGUIRE <jam939 > SAMVA > Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:06:06 -0600 > <SAMVA > > Re: Transit Influences > > > Sally/Professor and all > > A few more thoughts: > - the rahu affliction to N VEN will fire the natal trigger of Ketu to Ven. > - while Ra/ke are stationary TJUP and T jup will be afflicting N Moon > - and T JUp will then retrograde to within one degree of the 3rd MEP > influencing the 7th, 9th, and 11th houses, then come back over NJUp and N > moon > - at same time T Sat will be mutually afflicting N sat > Lots of challenges here! > > In addition: > In looking ahead at the Grimes USA chart I notice that natal 8th lord > saturn will be afflicted by T rahu from 21 Jan, 2005 to 19 July, 2005, > stationary exact March through May. > This will be followed by T rahu afflicting T Sat and T Sat afflicting T > ketu starting Sep 28 2005, both afflictions becoming direct Dec 7, 2005 > then direct or within 2 degrees until April 8, 2006 and > finally out of range May 30. 2006. > >> This is a very long period of affliction for Saturn and it would seem that >> oil >> prices for whatever reason could fluctuate wildly. Oil is deeply rooted in >> the > Bush history and in the bush administration war policy. Perhaps the event > indicated in Pres. Bush chart will have something to do with loss of oil > supply and hence affect him and the country severly. It may be just the > reality becoming visible that world oil supply is as some predict on the > verge of a long but steady decline. Do we have any kind of " world chart " ? > > John > > > > Could be quite a challanging time for him. > > John > >> Sally Spencer <sally234 >> SAMVA >> Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:16:10 -1000 >> SAMVA >> Re: Transit Influences >> >> >> Thank you Professor. It's so simple when you explain it. Aloha, Sally >> >> Best Wishes, Sally >> >> SIHA wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello Ms Sally, >>> >>> Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The >>> involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist >>> activity, injuries, etc. >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> >>> >>> - >>> " Sally Spencer " <sally234 >>> " SAMVA " <SAMVA > >>> Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM >>> Transit Influences >>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear Professor, >>>> >>>> Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on >>> >>> that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that >>> homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter >>> and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu >>> in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market? >>> Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country.. >>> >>>> Thanks. Sally >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I saw the transit influences in the chart >>>>> of GWB and made predictions. >>>>> >>>>> The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to >>>>> May, 2005. >>>>> >>>>> The country (part of the world) is specified as US. >>>>> >>>>> The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity >>> >>> and >>> >>>>> it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural >>>>> calamity. >>>>> >>>>> During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively >>> >>> affected. >>> >>>>> The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit >>>>> conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes >>>>> conjunct. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sally Spencer >>>> Enlightened Living Services >>>> http://www.Devi3.byregion.net >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hi John Maguire, Please refer to my previous message to the Group earlier today, wherein I discuss the Grimes Chart. As you obviously recognize, the date of March 1, 1781 is an important historic one for the American nation, as it is the birthday of the U.S. Government, by my reckoning (explained in that message). For the purpose of your analysis I concur with your choice of birthdate but I must re-iterate that the Grimes Chart is approximately 3 hours and 19 minutes off the time moment of official record. Meaning, bluntly: It's dead wrong and cannot possibly represent the time moment of birth of the U.S. Government under the then ratified Articles of Confederation of that day. What makes this such an interesting case (for me) in mundane astrology is that the historical record is indisputable because the record tells us exactly at which time that day the signing was scheduled. For your ready reference: Go to THE PAPERS OF THE CONTINENTAL CONGRESS, Folio No. 9, document dated February 22, 1781. The signing ceremony on March 1, 1781 was stipulated therein for 12:00 noon. Of course, this time moment needs to be rectified within a reasonably narrow range of time variance, (may I unscientifically propose plus or minus 15 minutes???). I personally like 12:07 pm but I am not sufficiently competently prepared to defend it astrologically. Perhaps you ought to take a crack at its rectification, because your analysis of the oil markets ideally suits the birthchart for the U.S. Government. Regards, John T W BJOHN MAGUIRE <jam939 wrote: I notice that oil prices (see http://www.oilnergy.com/1opost.htm) haveaveraged over $43/barrel since the first of Jan and over $45/barrel for thelast 2 weeks (vs $41/barrel in Dec.) This would add support for the GrimesUSA chart - nat Sat now under affliction from T rahu.Also weak/afflicted sat could be interpreted as reduced supply instead ofweak (lower) prices as has sometimes been mentioned in this group. Priceswill always rise as supply declines.John> JOHN MAGUIRE <jam939> SAMVA > Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:06:06 -0600> <SAMVA >> Re: Transit Influences> > > Sally/Professor and all> > A few more thoughts:> - the rahu affliction to N VEN will fire the natal trigger of Ketu to Ven.> - while Ra/ke are stationary TJUP and T jup will be afflicting N Moon> - and T JUp will then retrograde to within one degree of the 3rd MEP> influencing the 7th, 9th, and 11th houses, then come back over NJUp and N> moon> - at same time T Sat will be mutually afflicting N sat> Lots of challenges here!> > In addition:> In looking ahead at the Grimes USA chart I notice that natal 8th lord> saturn will be afflicted by T rahu from 21 Jan, 2005 to 19 July, 2005,> stationary exact March through May.> This will be followed by T rahu afflicting T Sat and T Sat afflicting T> ketu starting Sep 28 2005, both afflictions becoming direct Dec 7, 2005> then direct or within 2 degrees until April 8, 2006 and> finally out of range May 30. 2006.> >> This is a very long period of affliction for Saturn and it would seem that>> oil>> prices for whatever reason could fluctuate wildly. Oil is deeply rooted in>> the> Bush history and in the bush administration war policy. Perhaps the event> indicated in Pres. Bush chart will have something to do with loss of oil> supply and hence affect him and the country severly. It may be just the> reality becoming visible that world oil supply is as some predict on the> verge of a long but steady decline. Do we have any kind of "world chart"?> > John> > > > Could be quite a challanging time for him.> > John> >> Sally Spencer <sally234>> SAMVA >> Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:16:10 -1000>> SAMVA >> Re: Transit Influences>> >> >> Thank you Professor. It's so simple when you explain it. Aloha, Sally>> >> Best Wishes, Sally>> >> SIHA wrote:>> >>> >>> Hello Ms Sally,>>> >>> Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The>>> involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist>>> activity, injuries, etc.>>> >>> Best wishes,>>> >>> >>> >>> ->>> "Sally Spencer" <sally234>>> "SAMVA" <SAMVA >>>> Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM>>> Transit Influences>>> >>> >>> >>>> Dear Professor,>>>> >>>> Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on>>> >>> that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that>>> homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter>>> and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu>>> in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market?>>> Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country..>>> >>>> Thanks. Sally>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> I saw the transit influences in the chart>>>>> of GWB and made predictions.>>>>> >>>>> The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to>>>>> May, 2005.>>>>> >>>>> The country (part of the world) is specified as US.>>>>> >>>>> The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity>>> >>> and>>> >>>>> it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural>>>>> calamity.>>>>> >>>>> During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively>>> >>> affected.>>> >>>>> The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit>>>>> conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes>>>>> conjunct.>>>> >>>> >>>> -->>>> Sally Spencer>>>> Enlightened Living Services>>>> http://www.Devi3.byregion.net>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hello Mr. Maguire, The influences mentioned in your earlier message dated 2nd January, 05, are just setting in. To see the long term application we will have to wait. The weakness of Saturn in general means weak situation of the items ruled by Saturn. As oil is one of the significations/products ruled by Saturn, during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and or supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply. Speculation angle would only be relevant if there is close transit influence of Rahu. For worldwide study of oil prices, we have to see the influences on Saturn in general without referring it to the chart of a particular country. Currently, Saturn is not only weak in zodiac but in the last few days it was/and is also closely under the transit influence of Mars and Venus. Best wishes, - " JOHN MAGUIRE " <jam939 <SAMVA > Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:55 AM Re: Transit Influences > I notice that oil prices (see http://www.oilnergy.com/1opost.htm) have > averaged over $43/barrel since the first of Jan and over $45/barrel for the > last 2 weeks (vs $41/barrel in Dec.) This would add support for the Grimes > USA chart - nat Sat now under affliction from T rahu. > > Also weak/afflicted sat could be interpreted as reduced supply instead of > weak (lower) prices as has sometimes been mentioned in this group. Prices > will always rise as supply declines. > > John > > > JOHN MAGUIRE <jam939 > > SAMVA > > Sun, 02 Jan 2005 15:06:06 -0600 > > <SAMVA > > > Re: Transit Influences > > > > > > Sally/Professor and all > > > > A few more thoughts: > > - the rahu affliction to N VEN will fire the natal trigger of Ketu to Ven. > > - while Ra/ke are stationary TJUP and T jup will be afflicting N Moon > > - and T JUp will then retrograde to within one degree of the 3rd MEP > > influencing the 7th, 9th, and 11th houses, then come back over NJUp and N > > moon > > - at same time T Sat will be mutually afflicting N sat > > Lots of challenges here! > > > > In addition: > > In looking ahead at the Grimes USA chart I notice that natal 8th lord > > saturn will be afflicted by T rahu from 21 Jan, 2005 to 19 July, 2005, > > stationary exact March through May. > > This will be followed by T rahu afflicting T Sat and T Sat afflicting T > > ketu starting Sep 28 2005, both afflictions becoming direct Dec 7, 2005 > > then direct or within 2 degrees until April 8, 2006 and > > finally out of range May 30. 2006. > > > >> This is a very long period of affliction for Saturn and it would seem that > >> oil > >> prices for whatever reason could fluctuate wildly. Oil is deeply rooted in > >> the > > Bush history and in the bush administration war policy. Perhaps the event > > indicated in Pres. Bush chart will have something to do with loss of oil > > supply and hence affect him and the country severly. It may be just the > > reality becoming visible that world oil supply is as some predict on the > > verge of a long but steady decline. Do we have any kind of " world chart " ? > > > > John > > > > > > > > Could be quite a challanging time for him. > > > > John > > > >> Sally Spencer <sally234 > >> SAMVA > >> Sat, 01 Jan 2005 20:16:10 -1000 > >> SAMVA > >> Re: Transit Influences > >> > >> > >> Thank you Professor. It's so simple when you explain it. Aloha, Sally > >> > >> Best Wishes, Sally > >> > >> SIHA wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Hello Ms Sally, > >>> > >>> Venus rules both homeland and mental peace of the President. The > >>> involvement of Rahu/Ketu and Jupiter indicates accidents, terrorist > >>> activity, injuries, etc. > >>> > >>> Best wishes, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> " Sally Spencer " <sally234 > >>> " SAMVA " <SAMVA > > >>> Sunday, January 02, 2005 6:24 AM > >>> Transit Influences > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Dear Professor, > >>>> > >>>> Interesting how you spoke on the US from GWB's chart. Care to comment on > >>> > >>> that. I see the nodes will be afflicting Venus in his chart, is that > >>> homeland or just his mental peace, therefore an issue with the US? Jupiter > >>> and the nodes will be afflicting Jupiter too. Ketu will be afflicting NRahu > >>> in house of friends as well as Ketu in the fifth, thereby the stock market? > >>> Obviously you view his chart as indicative as to the state of the country.. > >>> > >>>> Thanks. Sally > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> I saw the transit influences in the chart > >>>>> of GWB and made predictions. > >>>>> > >>>>> The time frame is of the transit conjunction which runs between March to > >>>>> May, 2005. > >>>>> > >>>>> The country (part of the world) is specified as US. > >>>>> > >>>>> The prediction clearly says that it is likely to be a terrorist activity > >>> > >>> and > >>> > >>>>> it also (in addition to terrorist activity) is likely to be a natural > >>>>> calamity. > >>>>> > >>>>> During this period the stock markets are likely to be negatively > >>> > >>> affected. > >>> > >>>>> The first half of year is predicted to be challenging as the transit > >>>>> conjunction will start influencing even before the conjunction becomes > >>>>> conjunct. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Sally Spencer > >>>> Enlightened Living Services > >>>> http://www.Devi3.byregion.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 >"during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and or supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply." this is = to saying nothing ! so i take it Jyotish can't provide the answer ! From what i gather from Prof Krihnamurti (KP Astro), this sort of "readings" is what prompted him into a more "scientific" and more accurate prognotication..... my 2cents (been studying SA and now am very disappointed !)ciao diasppointingly and TOTALLY lost Iver SIHA <siha wrote: Hello Mr. Maguire,The influences mentioned in your earlier message dated 2nd January, 05, arejust setting in. To see the long term application we will have to wait.The weakness of Saturn in general means weak situation of the items ruled bySaturn. As oil is one of the significations/products ruled by Saturn,during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and orsupplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply.Speculation angle would only be relevant if there is close transit influenceof Rahu.For worldwide study of oil prices, we have to see the influences on Saturnin general without referring it to the chart of a particular country.Currently, Saturn is not only weak in zodiac but in the last few days itwas/and is also closely under the transit influence of Mars and Venus.Best wishes, The all-new My – Get yours free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Hello Iver, You are welcome to comment the way you feel. I do not know what your expectations are but I am sure when you study other systems then you will be better able to form your opinion more constructively. Best wishes, - " del iver " <deliver1900 <SAMVA > Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:24 AM Re: Transit Influences > > " during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and or supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply. " > > this is = to saying nothing ! so i take it Jyotish can't provide the answer ! From what i gather from Prof Krihnamurti (KP Astro), this sort of " readings " is what prompted him into a more " scientific " and more accurate prognotication..... > > my 2cents (been studying SA and now am very disappointed !) > ciao > > diasppointingly and TOTALLY lost > > Iver > > > SIHA <siha wrote: > Hello Mr. Maguire, > > The influences mentioned in your earlier message dated 2nd January, 05, are > just setting in. To see the long term application we will have to wait. > > The weakness of Saturn in general means weak situation of the items ruled by > Saturn. As oil is one of the significations/products ruled by Saturn, > during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and or > supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply. > Speculation angle would only be relevant if there is close transit influence > of Rahu. > > For worldwide study of oil prices, we have to see the influences on Saturn > in general without referring it to the chart of a particular country. > > Currently, Saturn is not only weak in zodiac but in the last few days it > was/and is also closely under the transit influence of Mars and Venus. > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > The all-new My - Get yours free! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Thankyou Professor. I was concerned with your answer. Its a common answer in the Economics disciple and belongs there. That answer doesn't belong to Jyotish. That shouldn't be the answer from Jyotish ! BUT it's not true because SUPPLY has alwayus been manipulated. You control supply and you control the price. (Don't even bother about demand). If you can't control supply then take it by force have a war ! Like the Americano does. Finally your answer may in fact belong in the domain of talking noise. You said nothing. When in fact I have been studying your system (SA) of Jyotish to overcome such inunendo's. disappointingly Iver. SIHA <siha wrote: Hello Iver,You are welcome to comment the way you feel.I do not know what your expectations are but I am sure when you study othersystems then you will be better able to form your opinion moreconstructively.Best wishes,-"del iver" <deliver1900<SAMVA >Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:24 AMRe: Transit Influences> >"during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices andor supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply.">> this is = to saying nothing ! so i take it Jyotish can't provide theanswer ! From what i gather from Prof Krihnamurti (KP Astro), this sort of"readings" is what prompted him into a more "scientific" and more accurateprognotication.....>> my 2cents (been studying SA and now am very disappointed !)> ciao>> diasppointingly and TOTALLY lost>> Iver>>> SIHA <siha wrote:> Hello Mr. Maguire,>> The influences mentioned in your earlier message dated 2nd January, 05,are> just setting in. To see the long term application we will have to wait.>> The weakness of Saturn in general means weak situation of the items ruledby> Saturn. As oil is one of the significations/products ruled by Saturn,> during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and or> supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply.> Speculation angle would only be relevant if there is close transitinfluence> of Rahu.>> For worldwide study of oil prices, we have to see the influences on Saturn> in general without referring it to the chart of a particular country.>> Currently, Saturn is not only weak in zodiac but in the last few days it> was/and is also closely under the transit influence of Mars and Venus.>> Best wishes,>> >>>> > > The all-new My - Get yours free!> Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 HelloMr. Iver, When the person has already made up his/her mind, it is of no use for indulging in discussions - that is how I feel. Manipulations are governed by Rahu's affliction and not because of the weakness of the planet. I know KP system and I interacted with the person nominated by Mr. Krishnamurthy to explain his system after him in 1995 in Hyderabad. He was unable to find out the reasons about the delays in the case of the marriage of his daughter. A person who has studied SA for three months would tell the reasons in 2/3 minutes. I do not criticise others and do not aggressively promote or try to impose my system of analysis. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105 South City-II Gurgaon-122101, INDIA. Ph: 91-124-2219240 91-9811016333 - " del iver " <deliver1900 <SAMVA > Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:43 AM Re: Transit Influences > Thankyou Professor. > I was concerned with your answer. Its a common answer in the Economics disciple and belongs there. That answer doesn't belong to Jyotish. > That shouldn't be the answer from Jyotish ! > BUT it's not true because SUPPLY has alwayus been manipulated. > You control supply and you control the price. (Don't even bother about demand). > If you can't control supply then take it by force have a war ! Like the Americano does. > > Finally your answer may in fact belong in the domain of talking noise. You said nothing. > When in fact I have been studying your system (SA) of Jyotish to overcome such inunendo's. > disappointingly > Iver. > > > SIHA <siha wrote: > > Hello Iver, > > You are welcome to comment the way you feel. > I do not know what your expectations are but I am sure when you study other > systems then you will be better able to form your opinion more > constructively. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " del iver " <deliver1900 > <SAMVA > > Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:24 AM > Re: Transit Influences > > > > > " during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and > or supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply. " > > > > this is = to saying nothing ! so i take it Jyotish can't provide the > answer ! From what i gather from Prof Krihnamurti (KP Astro), this sort of > " readings " is what prompted him into a more " scientific " and more accurate > prognotication..... > > > > my 2cents (been studying SA and now am very disappointed !) > > ciao > > > > diasppointingly and TOTALLY lost > > > > Iver > > > > > > SIHA <siha wrote: > > Hello Mr. Maguire, > > > > The influences mentioned in your earlier message dated 2nd January, 05, > are > > just setting in. To see the long term application we will have to wait. > > > > The weakness of Saturn in general means weak situation of the items ruled > by > > Saturn. As oil is one of the significations/products ruled by Saturn, > > during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and or > > supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply. > > Speculation angle would only be relevant if there is close transit > influence > > of Rahu. > > > > For worldwide study of oil prices, we have to see the influences on Saturn > > in general without referring it to the chart of a particular country. > > > > Currently, Saturn is not only weak in zodiac but in the last few days it > > was/and is also closely under the transit influence of Mars and Venus. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The all-new My - Get yours free! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 Thankyou Professor. I am still a student and must ask questions. I don't believe in blindfaith. And I haven't made up my mind that's why I'm still asking questions. When the master doesn't answer or doesn't provide logical explanations then I must indulge the master into meaningful discussion. It was my motive to draw you into "Reasoning " of your answer. If you are still agree-able then we can proceed you analyse your answer. Please guide oh ye master ! ciao humbly at your feet IverSIHA <siha wrote: HelloMr. Iver,When the person has already made up his/her mind, it is of no use forindulging in discussions - that is how I feel.Manipulations are governed by Rahu's affliction and not because of theweakness of the planet.I know KP system and I interacted with the person nominated by Mr.Krishnamurthy to explain his system after him in 1995 in Hyderabad. He wasunable to find out the reasons about the delays in the case of the marriageof his daughter. A person who has studied SA for three months would tell thereasons in 2/3 minutes.I do not criticise others and do not aggressively promote or try to imposemy system of analysis.Best wishes,www.YourNetAstrologer.comA-105 South City-IIGurgaon-122101,INDIA.Ph: 91-124-2219240 91-9811016333-"del iver" <deliver1900<SAMVA >Saturday, January 29, 2005 10:43 AMRe: Transit Influences> Thankyou Professor.> I was concerned with your answer. Its a common answer in the Economicsdisciple and belongs there. That answer doesn't belong to Jyotish.> That shouldn't be the answer from Jyotish !> BUT it's not true because SUPPLY has alwayus been manipulated.> You control supply and you control the price. (Don't even bother aboutdemand).> If you can't control supply then take it by force have a war ! Like theAmericano does.>> Finally your answer may in fact belong in the domain of talking noise. Yousaid nothing.> When in fact I have been studying your system (SA) of Jyotish to overcomesuch inunendo's.> disappointingly> Iver.>>> SIHA <siha wrote:>> Hello Iver,>> You are welcome to comment the way you feel.> I do not know what your expectations are but I am sure when you studyother> systems then you will be better able to form your opinion more> constructively.>> Best wishes,>> >> -> "del iver" <deliver1900> <SAMVA >> Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:24 AM> Re: Transit Influences>>> > >"during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices and> or supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than thesupply."> >> > this is = to saying nothing ! so i take it Jyotish can't provide the> answer ! From what i gather from Prof Krihnamurti (KP Astro), this sort of> "readings" is what prompted him into a more "scientific" and more accurate> prognotication.....> >> > my 2cents (been studying SA and now am very disappointed !)> > ciao> >> > diasppointingly and TOTALLY lost> >> > Iver> >> >> > SIHA <siha wrote:> > Hello Mr. Maguire,> >> > The influences mentioned in your earlier message dated 2nd January, 05,> are> > just setting in. To see the long term application we will have to wait.> >> > The weakness of Saturn in general means weak situation of the itemsruled> by> > Saturn. As oil is one of the significations/products ruled by Saturn,> > during the weak Saturn period the weakness brings down the prices andor> > supplies. The price will rise only if demand is greater than the supply.> > Speculation angle would only be relevant if there is close transit> influence> > of Rahu.> >> > For worldwide study of oil prices, we have to see the influences onSaturn> > in general without referring it to the chart of a particular country.> >> > Currently, Saturn is not only weak in zodiac but in the last few days it> > was/and is also closely under the transit influence of Mars and Venus.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > > >> >> >> > > > > > The all-new My - Get yours free!> >>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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