Guest guest Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hi Janna, Mark and all, As Mark has written, Saturn is not considered well placed in Leo. Leo is called the place of Saturn's detriment in Western astrology because Leo is opposite Saturn's sign of Aquarius. However, in Vedic astrology, Saturn in Leo is said to gain some strength because it aspects its own sign of Aquarius. Nonetheless, in Vedic astrology, Saturn shares great enmity with the Sun, the lord of Leo, so Leo is not Saturn's best constellation to transit, generally speaking. One of the potential collective or individual problems of this transit could be widespread malaise and depression. The heart (SUN-LEO) can feel constricted (SATURN) physically and spiritually, indicating a great opportunity to develop the heart chakra in this period. This transit can reflect the pitfalls of egoic drive and power, so the lessons it may bring revolve around the need for real humility and loving kindness. Saturn transiting in Leo if strong and unafflicted can give easy gains because it is aspecting its own sign of Aquarius. Whether it will bring more loss or more gain depends in large part on what houses it is transiting and where the other planets are transiting at the same time Generally, malefics like Saturn give their best results in the Upachaya houses from the Lagna or the Moon, houses 3, 6, 10 and 11. Malefics can cause the most problems, if strong and afflicted, in the angles of the chart. A very important point that we should always consider is that the natal predisposition of a planet must be throroughly analyzed before trying to understand its transits. If you have a good natal Saturn, meaning that it is a benefic for the chart and is unafflicted, then all of its transits will be easier to take than if it is an afflicted malefic for the chart. The other thing to understand about Saturn transits relates to Dasas. If one is running a Dasa of Saturn, then its transits will be more significant and intense. Best, Juliana , " Janna Lynn " <jnanalynn wrote: > > 2-Janna re. upcoming shift of Saturn into Leo 10/6 MK > > > Mark, > > What do you mean by saying that Saturn in Cancer and Saturn in Leo are > the most difficult transits? Since I have Saturn in Cancer natally and > Saturn is currently on my asc (through May 2007), I am concerned about > what to expect with Saturn in Leo (my second house) since Saturn in > Cancer has been difficult and has seemed to be a " karmic completion " > of the past thirty years, but what is the karmic payback? Your > statement from the newsletter: " Already we can feel the headache > and karmic pay back that's going to be the malefic side of Saturn in > Leo, coming up. " What will be the malefic effects of Saturn in Leo? > What do you mean by " karmic payback? " How will this impact specific > signs and ascendants? I will look forward to your showing what the > effects of Saturn in Leo will be according to Asc, Moon, and Sun signs > if you're planning an article. > > I'm reposting the question here but am confused since there are 2 > Nature's astrology groups. Hope this is the right one > > Janna > > > Dear Janna: > > Greetings! I have had plans to create an article about the possible > affects > of Sani's shift into Leo, soon. > > Sorry if I scared you, it's just that Saturn's movements every 30 > years, through > Cancer and Leo are two of Sani's worse transits, for many people. > > Mark > > > > PS... are you on my nature's astrology group too? > That's my main group for the transits. > > I don't generally send out transits to this the Stars Within unless > people send > me questions. > > That other one's at: > > > > > , markkincaid@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Astrology > > Newsletter & ndash; Report For Transits, Charts & Dasas: Moon & rsquo;s > in Pisces, now. Full Moon > > Tomorrow.. 8:14pm PST > > > > > > > > Thursday > > & Friday, October 5th & 6th > > & hellip;. & hellip;. > > > > (October 6th & 7th & hellip;. > > & ndash; in the East) > > > > Moon Moves > > into Pisces, now, as we speak Today! > > As of 5:18pm PST, Moon & rsquo;s at the lst degree > > of Pisces. > > > > Click on For Daily Up-to-date Picture of THE > > Moon! > > > > Moon Reaches it fullness > > Now! > > > > The Transits are Nature > > living Astrology! > > Moon moves into Pisces, today, collides with Rahu > > and becomes Full, tomorrow! > > Seemed like the Moon zoomed into Fullness this > > last week. > > Just seemed like it was in Capricorn and then, > > boom & hellip;.now Pisces > > > > > > 1) > > Moon in > > Pisces! Moon > > thoroughly enjoys being in Pisces. Good days > > to explore Piscian & ldquo;Freedom & rdquo;. > > > > 2) > > Moon Collided w/Rahu > > today. Rahu & rsquo;s still > > sitting at the door of Pisces, (1 degree) so Moon sliding right past > Rahu > > now. You could feel that rahu turbulence if you knew when to look. > I often find that the Weather even, gets intense > > during these times. Now, the Moon will be > > moving away from Rahu so even tomorrow should feel > > better. > > 3) > > Moon is Full > > Tomorrow. Moon reaches > > it & rsquo;s Heighth of Fullness tomorrow. > > Technically 20:14pm here in Phoenix which is in the Pacific Time > Zone. (#8). > > So, adjusting the exact time for the one you & rsquo;re in, > > tomorrow & hellip; > > Celebrate the Moon & rsquo;s fullness > > now & hellip;... > > 4) > > Full Moon & ndash; > > Celebration. My Guru used to > > take us out on bodies of water during the Full Moons. > > Great time, then, to celebrate. What > > we & rsquo;re celebrating now is the Sun & rsquo;s movement into Perfection > > oriented Virgo. > > What we & rsquo;re also celebrating is the practical > > success of all & lsquo;our & rsquo; efforts of these last 2 weeks of > > Moon & rsquo;s Waxiness! > > Now, (tomorrow, late) the Moon will begin to > > Wane. > > Then, on let & rsquo;s say Saturday, (West), the > > Moon & rsquo;s Waning cycle will begin, and over the next 7 days of the > > 3rd Quarter Moon, will have the unique characteristic of being > > the time, to re-organize the intensity and activities of these last 2 > > weeks. > > See if you don & rsquo;t feel that slight > > inwardness. > > I often feel, the upward, outward, expansive pulse of > > the last 2 weeks, starts to wane, and I find myself thinking about the > > things I & rsquo;ve been doing. > > The Moon represents the flowing, ebbing and expanding > > of life, so our activities should be in-tune > > too. > > For those who are focusing on > > Strengthening their Moon & rsquo;s whether in terms of my research project > > or for their own personal reasons, this will be an important time to see > > what & rsquo;s going on within your nervous systems or > > self! > > Wax with the > > Waxing.. > > And Wane with the > > Wanings.. > > Makes the Moon in you, natural > > and strong! > > Another cycle concluded, another one > > beginning. > > Such is the nature of life, with the Moon and with the > > Stars! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots of Virgo stuff still > > goings on. Now > > 10/4 > > See exact degrees > > below & hellip;. > > > > > > > > Today, see a rs experience with her Virgo challenges > > and how she learned to turn it around! See > > below. > > 5) > > Sun in Virgo. > > Sun is in many ways the most > > difficult part to notice. Because the Sun represents the deepest, > > ego, I part of us, you may have some difficulties noticing this. > > However, the general tones are Being Judgmental and feeling others > should > > NOT be doing what I believe is right! > > 6) > > Mars in > > Virgo. > > Mars in Virgo is the same kind of Virgo trait only assumes a more > > aggressive stance. Recently I talked with a lady who had Mars in > > Virgo and she told me how her friends are always telling her to > > & ldquo;stop being so Virgoish & rdquo;. She told me she gets real > > picky and criticizing even their art on their walls. The whole time > > feeling one is superior and right! > > 7) > > Ketu in > > Virgo. > > Ketu has been in Virgo for over a year now so it may be very > > difficult to feel too. Ketu in Virgo represents an abstract quality > > of & lsquo;desire & rsquo; for Virgo ness. Rahu and Ketu representing > > the desire mechanism. When Rahu or Ketu are in a malefic fashion, > > we & rsquo;ll have bad habits, compulsion, obsessions and even > > addictions. > > So, Ketu in Virgo may have represented the Transit of some Virgoish > > frustrating bad habits or compulsions that we & rsquo;ve been trying > to get > > over. > > 8) > > Venus in > > Virgo. > > Venus is the latest Planet to move into Virgo. In many ways Venus > > is the most difficult to suffer under. This is because Venus > > represents the heart and the heart knowing no reason means this karmic > > period is about NOT being so Virgoish with all our affairs of the > > heart. > > During this time we may get criticized by our spouses or girl > > friends. > > We may also, feel Virgoish towards them. > > This represents the time where we see the sad results of being this > > anal Virgo quality in any heart relations. > > If you & rsquo;re going through any of this at home or at work, > > remind yourself this is why! > > And, DON & rsquo;T BUY INTO THE VIRGO TUSSLE! > > Don & rsquo;t return criticism for > > more criticism. This will only serve to further the > > problem. > > THE > > SOLUTION: > > BE APPRECIATIVE!!! > > Find the real appreciation, the real worth and don & rsquo;t pick on > > the problems. > > Exact Degrees of All Planets & Especially the > > One & rsquo;s in Virgo: > > as of 9/24/06/now 9/29, now 10/2 & hellip;.10/4 & hellip; > > Mercury: at the 11th degree of > > Libra, now > > Mercury sometimes in Libra gets stuck, & ldquo;SITTING ON THE > > FENCE.. & rdquo; Of > > Libra. > > Libra sees both sides. So, it & rsquo;s a > > very good Sign or Energy for being objective, being a negotiator, > being a > > diplomat & hellip;. > > But, when Mercury & rsquo;s there it, the Intellect gets suspended > > sometimes and can & rsquo;t make up it & rsquo;s mind. > > If you & rsquo;re feeling any of that frustration, then don & rsquo;t > > sit, > > Decide and Choose! This is the formula > > for Libra ambivalence! > > Mars > > 17th 20th, 22nd, 24th & hellip;...degree. Mars & rsquo;s particular > scenario > > often times, is it & rsquo;s the planet that gives us the karmas of > > & ldquo;BLAME & rdquo;. So, Mars being in Virgo has been representing > > the intense, aggressive Marsish blame for fault. As a result much > > & ldquo;criticism & rdquo; has been flying around lately. Mars has > > awhile left to go, so be a little patient as people get a little > snippy or > > a lot! During these times. > > Mars may begin Waning in it & rsquo;s intense Virgo ness > > finally! The degrees between 24 & > > 30 & hellip; are > > slightly less powerful, so the malefic ness of it may > > begin settling down! > > WE CAN ONLY HOPE! > > Mars > > Stays in Virgo until Oct 15th & hellip;when it moves into > > Libra. So, expect more of the same negativity for > > awhile. > > Best Solution:! & hellip; ? To get enough > > rest that the criticism barbs can fall off your back! > > Sun > > 18th degree of Virgo: On Oct > > 5h,.. So Sun has 12 > > more days of this! > > Ugh! You say & hellip;Well contemplate then the true meaning of Virgo > > ness, and when you seek TRUE PERFECTION, INSIDE & hellip; then the > > distressing side of Virgo DISAPPEARS! > > Ketu > > 1st degree/Now 1 deg 20 mins. Virgo > > until Nov. 9th & hellip;! Ketu has been in Virgo for awhile, so > probably > > most of the Virgo ness people are going through is not due so much > to Ketu > > there, now. Though you could feel that particularly weird Ketu > > flavor as the Sun moved across Ketu on Sept. 16th & > > 17th !!! > > Venus > > 13th degree in > > Virgo now. Virgo, not happy in Virgo, 'Fallen' > > Debiliated! Venus, not happy in Virgo analytic Intellectual > > reasoning. Venus wants to be in the heart, in love, in Libra, Taurus > > or Exalted Pisces. So, be patient with the dry, analytic critical > > heart karma now. It won't last too much longer. > > Venus goes into Happy Libra energy on October 19th!!!! > > > > Moon & rsquo;s > > At the 1st > > degree Pisces NOW. > > So, Pisces (12th sign) is > > completely opposite to Virgo, (#6) hence Full Moon & rsquo;s a > > happening! > > 2 Great days for celebrating > > fullness > > > > > > Rahu At the > > 1st degree of Pisces too, now, > > Hence a bit of > > momentary Planetary War with the Moon. Moon is > > not liked by Rahu & Ketu, hence the Eclipses are the reality when Moon > > is either Full or New while close to Rahu & ketu! > > Good days to be inside, reflecting on the Transcendental > > Reality. > > > > Saturn At the > > 27th degree & 54 minutes in Cancer. > > Saturn too is beginning the end of > > it & rsquo;s long 2 ½ years of Cancer. > > Already we can feel the headache and karmic pay back that & rsquo;s > > going to be the malefic side of Saturn in Leo, coming > > up. > > Saturn moves into Leo on: > > November 1st > > 2006! > > Jupiter At the 25th > > degree & 31 minutes in Libra. Jupiter too is entering the last > throes of > > & ldquo;LIBRA NESS & rdquo;. This has been a > > great last year for diplomacy, for seeking Libra harmony and gaining > > knowledge. > > Jupiter moves into Scorpoio on: October 28th 2006! > > THIS MONTH! > > See if you can FEEL that amazing > > shift. > > This year you may feel slightly more reflective as Jupiter goes > > through Scorpio. > > Jupiter/Scorpio is a great time to study > > Jyotish! > > Scorpio is more research oriented and will represent a great year > > to reflect on what & rsquo;s important for you. > > Soon, we & rsquo;ll reflect on these 2 biggest Planetary shifts for > > every one depending upon your different Rising Sign & rsquo;s Aries to > > Pisces! > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > Subscribers Section: > > > > From Alice in > > New > > Jersey, > > US > > > > & ldquo;Dear Mark: I wanted to share with you how I & rsquo;ve > > been experiencing all > > > > these planets going through > > Virgo & hellip;.. > > > > From Mark > > > > This was the first thing > > she said to me, and a good sign of her proper attitude about how > > > > to really & ldquo;do & rdquo; Astrology. > > > > Alice: Things have > > settleed down in a way for me, but only because I have wanted them > > to! > > > > This is the key to > > life. Deciding I want to! This is where that expression comes > > from. > > > > & ldquo;Where there & rsquo;s a will, there & rsquo;s a > > way. & rdquo; > > > > > > > > > > She > > said: > > > > Alice: This is true! > > Some of the insanity around me is still there....the virgoish stuff > > especially.... > > Alice: but it's my > > choice as to how I respond to the actions of others that has > > changed! > > Alice: and that made a > > HUGE difference! > > Mark Kincaid: > > EXACTLY! > > > > > > This is > > the key to resisting any Astrological problem, whether on the inside or > > the outside. > > > > We first need to identify the > > problem. And, then the > > solution! > > > > The problem right now, is a lot of Virgo stuff goings on. > > She identified it, and then > > > > realized it was still in her will > > to decide how she responded to it! > > > > The particular flavor or negativity of Virgo is being > > criticized or feeling critical. > > > > Alice reacted to > > it this way. > > > > Alice: but when I > > changed from being defensive to " thanks for the information, I'll > > take it under advisement " > > Alice: I've been able > > to settle down within. > > > > Here & rsquo;s the formula for all self-transformation. Being > > able to settle down within. If you can & rsquo;t do that then life > > continues to be ruled by circumstance. Any negative situation, > > transit or dasa can be handled, or transcended, by calming oneself > > within! > > > > This is how she experienced > > and dealt with that unique Virgo stuff that everyone is facing right > > now. > > > > Alice: Changing from > > defending my self has helped calm me down and just letting others be in > > their own space > > Alice: I did pop off a > > few days ago when a 'friend' said I was crazy, > > > > And this is the key to dealing with Virgo criticism. > > Inside we say yes, thank you God thank you Universe for bringing me some > > Virgo karma. If however, you return Virgo slander for Virgo > > criticisms back then you will continue perpetuating the > > negativi > > > > Here & rsquo;s how > > Alice dealt with it. > > > > > > Alice: most of the > > time, I don't react at all, just say thanks. > > Alice: I like this calm > > feeling....it's just keeping the mindset and being aware of what's going > > on > > The KEY to life & hellip;is maintaing calm. > > > > > > When people heap Virgo negativity on us, we remain > > calm. > > If we have an argument with someone at work or home, > > we remain calm. > > We even get into some Saturn malefic situation; and > > we re-establish our calm! > > Calm is the way! > > And by putting more attention on Calmness each day, > > we find the solution to all problems! > > All problems in life are due to a lack of inner calm, centeredness > > and inner creativity! > > Well done Alice! > > > > > > > > If you & rsquo;re new to our > > AstrologyGroups: > > Check out our New 3rd Generation > > Website at: > > www..com > > > > For Special New Sections click on the > > below: > > > > Subscriber's Comments & > > Questions > > Philosophy of the Transits: > > > > New Section: Transits, Dasas & our > > Charts: > > If you & rsquo;re new to our Astrology newsletter: > > Check this one out too. > > Philosophy of > > Astrology > > > > ALL SUBSCRIBERS: > > > > Anyone who has questions > > about life experiences or Astrological one & rsquo;s feel free to let me > > know at: markkincaid@ > > > > Also, & hellip;.. if you > > have any suggestions or topics that you & rsquo;d like to see > > explored? > > > > Enjoy! > > Sincerely, > > Mark > > Kincaid > > Founder > > Nature's Astrology > > http://.com/index.shtml > > > > > > Jai > > Guru! > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Hi Saturn is in its exile sign. Should that be bad for the world and anything related to Saturn in our charts? Thank you Rashid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Hello Rashid, Saturn is currently in Leo. In Leo the planets give comparatively good results. Best wishes. - vv962 Tuesday, March 04, 2008 7:43 PM Saturn in Leo Hi Saturn is in its exile sign. Should that be bad for the world and anything related to Saturn in our charts? Thank you Rashid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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