Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva Yogas

[Guest guest]

Dear learned members,

 

// Is this so rare a combination??//

 

Yes, quite possible. This Yoga is possible only for Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra,

Scorpio, Aquarius and Pisces born natives. That too where Moon is involved in

forming the Yoga, for Libra, Scorpio and Pisces Lagnas....the time is more

restricted.

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

 

 

 

, " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan wrote:

>

> Dear Bhagavathi-ji, Neelam-ji, members,

>

> The obsession of finding a chart with Shiva Yoga is on me.

> I looked up around 30-40 charts but not even in a single one did I find Shiva

Yoga.

> Is this so rare a combination??

>

> Dear members of AIA,

> I understand that many members don't want to share birth details with

strangers or on public forums. Trust me when I say that's ok with me - just let

me know if you have it in your chart - that's all I want to know

>

> Thanks

>

> Souvik

>

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

kindly have a look to the following case:

virgo asc, jupiter in sagi & venus in pisces; both r in kendras from 9L t ofcourse both donot satisfy the same condition from 11L... mercury in capricorn.but here, being the LL, it automatically considered to be in kendra.

 

Does the above qualify the BRAHMA YOGA to some extent?

 

Regards,

sujata

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re:Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva Yogas Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 8:40 AM

 

 

Dear Shankar ji,Thank you for your interest in the thread. This is precisely what I was discussing.In this case, Jupiter from 9L is the only condition that needs to be satisfied. Is venus here considered in kendra to 11L? Mercury is in kendra to LL, but if it is placed elsewhere, can it give a yoga by virtue of its kendra placement from mercury?See this case:mer, venus, sun in lagna and jup in 10H. I know some people with this combination, and it is quite common, does it make them 'BRAHMA YOGIS'? If not, why not?Hope I am clear in what I want to say.RegardsNeelam

2009/3/3 ShankaraBharadwaj Khandavalli <shankarabharadwaj@ >

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam ji,Consider this combination: Sagi lagna Ju in Karkataka (8th house, exalted) Su, Me and Ve in 11th house. All the four are in kendras.

 

 

 

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, March 3, 2009 8:31:48 PMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva Yogas

 

 

 

 

Dear Souvik ji and All,These three yogas (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are culled out from the ‘300 Important Combinations’ by BV Raman.Brahma Yoga says if Jupiter and Venus are in Kendras respectively from the lords of the 9th and 11th, and Mercury is in a similar position from the lord of either Lagna or the 10th, Brahma Yoga is caused. The results given are that the person will enjoy luxurious foods, will be respected by Brahmins and learned men, will be highly learned, long-lived, charitable and always bent on doing good deeds.Let us take sagitarius lagna. Here Venus is 11L and Mercury is 10L. How do we see this Yoga. 2/3 of it will always be in operation. When Jupiter comes in Kendra with sun, this will be complete. What is your opinion on this? Does this yoga hold good for sagis? Similarly for cancer ascendants, where Jupiter himself is 9L and venus is 11L, how do we read this yoga? Should these ascendants, by

virtue of their 9/10/11 lordships already owned by these benefics be banned from participating in the yoga? Or are they inherently having part of this yoga under operation?BV Raman himself has said, //if, say, three factors are necessary to make up a certain yoga, the presence of even one or two cannot but suggest that the yoga does operate, may be feeble.//Would like to have opinions/experience s on that.RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Shankar ji,//

I think that should still be okay. Venus being 11L, he is in kendra -

by definition we say 1/4/7/11 for kendra and we do not exclude 1. //I

agree with you here. Even for yogas like GKY, where moon is supposed to

be in Kendra to Jupiter, we do consider their conjunction as GKY. (but

there are divided opinions on this and some do not consider it so)

//Since the requirement is

that the four planets in question should be in kendras to each other

and not necessarily in kendra from Lagna, this should also be okay. //I think the yoga does not specify that all should be in Kendra to each other. It lays down three conditions.

Venus in Kendra to 11LJupiter in Kendra to 9LMer in Kendra to either ascendant/10LAll three may or may not be Kendra to each other, as the yoga specifies no such condition. If I am wrong or have incomplete information, I stand corrected.

I think the basic premise of this yoga is

to have the karak/benefic in Kendra to the concerned house lord to strengthen

the lord. Venus in Kendra to 11L will promote luxuries, riches etc, jup in Kendra

to 9L will make one learned and respected by Brahmins, similarly mercury in Kendra

from ascendant/10L can make one perform good deeds and be long lived. Whatever placements

we see from house, should be seen from the lord also.

 

By this logic, for cancer lagna, where Jupiter

is 9L and venus is 11L, 2/3 of the yoga is always in operation, wherever they may

be in a chart. That leaves only mercury which has again good chances of being

in Kendra to either the lagna lord or the 10L. Does it mean that cancerians are

more likely to have the good effects of this yoga?RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Neelam ji,Thank you for the replies. "All three may or may not be Kendra to each other, as the yoga specifies no such condition. "Yes, I was talking of the example alone. In general all of them do not have to be in kendras to each other. "By this logic, for cancer lagna, where Jupiter

is 9L and venus is 11L, 2/3 of the yoga is always in operation, wherever they may

be in a chart. That leaves only mercury which has again good chances of being

in Kendra to either the lagna lord or the 10L. Does it mean that cancerians are

more likely to have the good effects of this yoga?"I think it has to do with the strength of yoga givers too - how good Ju, Ve and Me are doing. The advantage in case of cancer is that Ju/Ve are the lordsof 9/11 themselves, but they should be in own/exalted, and Me also should not be suffering for the yoga to be really effective. neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Friday, March 6, 2009 9:18:48 PMSubject:

Re: Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva Yogas

 

Dear Shankar ji,//

I think that should still be okay. Venus being 11L, he is in kendra -

by definition we say 1/4/7/11 for kendra and we do not exclude 1. //I

agree with you here. Even for yogas like GKY, where moon is supposed to

be in Kendra to Jupiter, we do consider their conjunction as GKY. (but

there are divided opinions on this and some do not consider it so)

//Since the requirement is

that the four planets in question should be in kendras to each other

and not necessarily in kendra from Lagna, this should also be okay. //I think the yoga does not specify that all should be in Kendra to each other. It lays down three conditions.

Venus in Kendra to 11LJupiter in Kendra to 9LMer in Kendra to either ascendant/10LAll three may or may not be Kendra to each other, as the yoga specifies no such condition. If I am wrong or have incomplete information, I stand corrected.

I think the basic premise of this yoga is

to have the karak/benefic in Kendra to the concerned house lord to strengthen

the lord. Venus in Kendra to 11L will promote luxuries, riches etc, jup in Kendra

to 9L will make one learned and respected by Brahmins, similarly mercury in Kendra

from ascendant/10L can make one perform good deeds and be long lived. Whatever placements

we see from house, should be seen from the lord also.

 

By this logic, for cancer lagna, where Jupiter

is 9L and venus is 11L, 2/3 of the yoga is always in operation, wherever they may

be in a chart. That leaves only mercury which has again good chances of being

in Kendra to either the lagna lord or the 10L. Does it mean that cancerians are

more likely to have the good effects of this yoga?RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Dear Shankar ji,//I think it has to do with the strength of yoga givers too - how good

Ju, Ve and Me are doing. The advantage in case of cancer is that Ju/Ve

are the lordsof 9/11 themselves, but they should be in own/exalted, and Me also should not be suffering for the yoga to be really effective.//

Absolutely, goes for all yogas. The only point was that in cancer lagna this yoga will be formed more easily, but how strong it is, one needs to judge. Also, to think about it, the results of Brahma Yoga are not very exclusive and can be found in many persons. e.g it says the person will enjoy luxurious foods, will

be respected by Brahmins and learned men, will be highly learned,

long-lived, charitable and always bent on doing good deeds, which is quite common place. RegardsNeelam

[Guest guest]

Here is an example of a true Vishnu Yoga.

Oprah Winfrey

Jan. 29, 1954

4:30 a.m.

Kosciusko, Mississippi

 

She is certainly " wealthy and well-versed in discussions...witty in

conversations and praised by the rulers. " There is also an exchange of the

lords of 2 and 11 as well as a Dharma Karma yoga. The shadbala strength is also

impressive.

 

--Radha S.

[Guest guest]

Plus there are at three very powerful little known yogas that make her the

celebrity that she is.

 

--Radha

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton47

wrote:

>

> Here is an example of a true Vishnu Yoga.

> Oprah Winfrey

> Jan. 29, 1954

> 4:30 a.m.

> Kosciusko, Mississippi

>

> She is certainly " wealthy and well-versed in discussions...witty in

conversations and praised by the rulers. " There is also an exchange of the

lords of 2 and 11 as well as a Dharma Karma yoga. The shadbala strength is also

impressive.

>

> --Radha S.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Radha-ji,

 

Dharmakarmadhipati - yes but I don't think so Vishnu Yoga is formed.

 

By definition:

Vishnu Yoga

Source:

http://www.aryabhatt.com/astrology%20book/astrologyV.htm

A combination formed by the lords of the 9th and 10th houses as well

as the lord of the Navamsa (q.v.) sign lord of the 9th (all three)

posited in the 2nd house. It makes the individual favored in an

important way by the state. By nature, he is patient, is erudite,

skilled in debating and is an engaging conversationalist. He becomes

rich and lives for long.

 

With the chart I got from the information you provided, 9L is Sun, 10L is Mer

placed in 2H of Capricorn. However, the 3rd. criteria is the the D-9 9H Lord

also has to be associated which in this case is Saturn (D-9 9H is Capri).

However, Saturn is not present in 2H in D-1 but in the 11H in Libra.

 

Thanks

 

Souvik

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton47

wrote:

>

> Here is an example of a true Vishnu Yoga.

> Oprah Winfrey

> Jan. 29, 1954

> 4:30 a.m.

> Kosciusko, Mississippi

>

> She is certainly " wealthy and well-versed in discussions...witty in

conversations and praised by the rulers. " There is also an exchange of the

lords of 2 and 11 as well as a Dharma Karma yoga. The shadbala strength is also

impressive.

>

> --Radha S.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

May be this chart qualifies for a vishnu yoga?

Lagna is makara, kuja in vrishabha in 5th house, guru/chandra/budha/shukra/ravi

in 7th in karkataka, shani in 8th in leo.

Regs,

Anita

 

 

 

 

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton47

wrote:

>

> Here is an example of a true Vishnu Yoga.

> Oprah Winfrey

> Jan. 29, 1954

> 4:30 a.m.

> Kosciusko, Mississippi

>

> She is certainly " wealthy and well-versed in discussions...witty in

conversations and praised by the rulers. " There is also an exchange of the

lords of 2 and 11 as well as a Dharma Karma yoga. The shadbala strength is also

impressive.

>

> --Radha S.

>

[Guest guest]

Souvik-ji,

 

Thank you for your response. Are you reading this as the lord of the ninth in

navamsa? Do you have the Sanskrit shloka for this yoga?

 

--Radha

 

, " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan wrote:

>

> Dear Radha-ji,

>

> Dharmakarmadhipati - yes but I don't think so Vishnu Yoga is formed.

>

> By definition:

> Vishnu Yoga

> Source:

> http://www.aryabhatt.com/astrology%20book/astrologyV.htm

> A combination formed by the lords of the 9th and 10th houses as well

> as the lord of the Navamsa (q.v.) sign lord of the 9th (all three)

> posited in the 2nd house. It makes the individual favored in an

> important way by the state. By nature, he is patient, is erudite,

> skilled in debating and is an engaging conversationalist. He becomes

> rich and lives for long.

>

> With the chart I got from the information you provided, 9L is Sun, 10L is Mer

placed in 2H of Capricorn. However, the 3rd. criteria is the the D-9 9H Lord

also has to be associated which in this case is Saturn (D-9 9H is Capri).

However, Saturn is not present in 2H in D-1 but in the 11H in Libra.

>

> Thanks

>

> Souvik

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton47@>

wrote:

> >

> > Here is an example of a true Vishnu Yoga.

> > Oprah Winfrey

> > Jan. 29, 1954

> > 4:30 a.m.

> > Kosciusko, Mississippi

> >

> > She is certainly " wealthy and well-versed in discussions...witty in

conversations and praised by the rulers. " There is also an exchange of the

lords of 2 and 11 as well as a Dharma Karma yoga. The shadbala strength is also

impressive.

> >

> > --Radha S.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Radha-ji,

 

I re-verified it from the Raman's 300 combinations and yes it does qualify for

Vishnu Yoga. The earlier website reference was confusing.

 

Here is the clear reference from BV Raman's 300 important Yoga.

http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Yogas/b_yoga_61_90.htm

 

Definition.—If the lord of Navamsa in which the 9th lord is placed, and the

10th lord joins the 2nd house in conjunction with the 9th lord, Vishnu Yoga is

caused.

 

If we read this as the lord of the Navamsa in which the 9th. lord from the Rasi

is placed-yes Oprah's chart qualifies for Vishnu Yoga.

 

9th. Lord from Rasi is Sun and is placed in Taurus Navamsa, the lord of which

Venus is the 2H with Sun and the 10th. lord Mercury.

 

Thanks for pointing this out.

 

Regards,

 

Souvik

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton47

wrote:

>

> Souvik-ji,

>

> Thank you for your response. Are you reading this as the lord of the ninth in

navamsa? Do you have the Sanskrit shloka for this yoga?

>

> --Radha

>

> , " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Radha-ji,

> >

> > Dharmakarmadhipati - yes but I don't think so Vishnu Yoga is formed.

> >

> > By definition:

> > Vishnu Yoga

> > Source:

> > http://www.aryabhatt.com/astrology%20book/astrologyV.htm

> > A combination formed by the lords of the 9th and 10th houses as well

> > as the lord of the Navamsa (q.v.) sign lord of the 9th (all three)

> > posited in the 2nd house. It makes the individual favored in an

> > important way by the state. By nature, he is patient, is erudite,

> > skilled in debating and is an engaging conversationalist. He becomes

> > rich and lives for long.

> >

> > With the chart I got from the information you provided, 9L is Sun, 10L is

Mer placed in 2H of Capricorn. However, the 3rd. criteria is the the D-9 9H Lord

also has to be associated which in this case is Saturn (D-9 9H is Capri).

However, Saturn is not present in 2H in D-1 but in the 11H in Libra.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Souvik

> > , " aphoton47 " <aphoton47@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Here is an example of a true Vishnu Yoga.

> > > Oprah Winfrey

> > > Jan. 29, 1954

> > > 4:30 a.m.

> > > Kosciusko, Mississippi

> > >

> > > She is certainly " wealthy and well-versed in discussions...witty in

conversations and praised by the rulers. " There is also an exchange of the

lords of 2 and 11 as well as a Dharma Karma yoga. The shadbala strength is also

impressive.

> > >

> > > --Radha S.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you seen this yoga mentioned in any Sanskrit text? I have not found in

Uttara Kalamrita, Jataka Parijatha, Phaladeepika or BPHS? I have not checked

Saravali.

 

--Radha

[Guest guest]

Nope have not seen this in any classic till now. Other learned members can throw

some light where in the classics we can find this.

 

Souvik

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton47

wrote:

>

>

> Have you seen this yoga mentioned in any Sanskrit text? I have not found in

Uttara Kalamrita, Jataka Parijatha, Phaladeepika or BPHS? I have not checked

Saravali.

>

> --Radha

>

[Guest guest]

Dear All

 

I have seen these yogas (Hari,Hara & Brahma Yogas) mentioned in BrihadJataka

Padhathi etc and the definitions are different from what that is mentioned in

the internet.

 

They are basically about presence of shubha grahas in various houses from

certain houselords. 2nd 7th and 4th.

 

Regards

Pradeep

 

, " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan wrote:

>

> Nope have not seen this in any classic till now. Other learned members can

throw some light where in the classics we can find this.

>

> Souvik

>

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton47@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Have you seen this yoga mentioned in any Sanskrit text? I have not found in

Uttara Kalamrita, Jataka Parijatha, Phaladeepika or BPHS? I have not checked

Saravali.

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I remember having seen in Jataka Parijata - the Hari hara brahma yoga. aphoton47 <aphoton47 Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:48:20 PM Re: Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva Yogas

 

 

Have you seen this yoga mentioned in any Sanskrit text? I have not found in Uttara Kalamrita, Jataka Parijatha, Phaladeepika or BPHS? I have not checked Saravali.

 

--Radha

[Guest guest]

Yes, thank you! I have seen Hari Hara Brahma Yoga mentioned in the classics, I

was referring to Vishnu Yoga and Shiva Yoga.

 

--Radha

[Guest guest]

Dear Souvikji and Radhaji,

 

I came across these yogas, while translating BPHS today. Santhanam has referred

to these as Trimurti yogas. Looks like there may be many versions of these

yogas:

 

35 swa antya ashta sthaihi dwitiyeshat hari yogah shubhagrahaihi

Kaameshad bandhu dharma ashta sthitaihi saumyaihi hara abhidhah

 

If benefics occupy the 2nd, 12th and the 8th, counted from the lord of the 2nd

house, Hari yoga arises. If benefics occupy the 4th, 9th and the 8th houses,

counted from the lord of the 7th, Hara yoga arises

 

36 lagneshad bandhu karma aya sthitaihi brahma avhayah smritah

Eshu jatah sukhi vidwan dhana putra adi sanyutah

 

If benefics occupy the 4th, 10th and the 11th houses from the lagna lord, Brahma

yoga arises. One born in anyone of these (Trimurti yogas) will be happy, a

scholar, will be endowed with wealth, sons etc

 

-Bhagavathi-

 

 

, " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan wrote:

>

> Nope have not seen this in any classic till now. Other learned members can

throw some light where in the classics we can find this.

>

> Souvik

>

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton47@>

wrote:

> >

> >

> > Have you seen this yoga mentioned in any Sanskrit text? I have not found in

Uttara Kalamrita, Jataka Parijatha, Phaladeepika or BPHS? I have not checked

Saravali.

> >

> > --Radha

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bhagwatiji,

 

Thank you, but does he mention Vishnu yoga and Shiva yoga? So far I have only

come across this in B.V.Raman's book.

 

--Radha

 

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Dear Souvikji and Radhaji,

>

> I came across these yogas, while translating BPHS today. Santhanam has

referred to these as Trimurti yogas. Looks like there may be many versions of

these yogas:

>

> 35 swa antya ashta sthaihi dwitiyeshat hari yogah shubhagrahaihi

> Kaameshad bandhu dharma ashta sthitaihi saumyaihi hara abhidhah

>

> If benefics occupy the 2nd, 12th and the 8th, counted from the lord of the 2nd

house, Hari yoga arises. If benefics occupy the 4th, 9th and the 8th houses,

counted from the lord of the 7th, Hara yoga arises

>

> 36 lagneshad bandhu karma aya sthitaihi brahma avhayah smritah

> Eshu jatah sukhi vidwan dhana putra adi sanyutah

>

> If benefics occupy the 4th, 10th and the 11th houses from the lagna lord,

Brahma yoga arises. One born in anyone of these (Trimurti yogas) will be happy,

a scholar, will be endowed with wealth, sons etc

>

> -Bhagavathi-

>

>

> , " Souvik Dutta "

<explore_vulcan@> wrote:

> >

> > Nope have not seen this in any classic till now. Other learned members can

throw some light where in the classics we can find this.

> >

> > Souvik

> >

> > , " aphoton47 " <aphoton47@>

wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Have you seen this yoga mentioned in any Sanskrit text? I have not found

in Uttara Kalamrita, Jataka Parijatha, Phaladeepika or BPHS? I have not checked

Saravali.

> > >

> > > --Radha

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Radhaji,

 

Hari and Hara are synonyms for Vishnu and Shiva. Hence the yoga goes by

hariharabrahma or brahmavishnushiva yoga.

 

Regards,

bhagavathi

 

 

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton47

wrote:

>

> Bhagwatiji,

>

> Thank you, but does he mention Vishnu yoga and Shiva yoga? So far I have only

come across this in B.V.Raman's book.

>

> --Radha

[Guest guest]

Bhagavathiji,

I know that Hari and Hara are synonyms of Vishnu and Shiva, however in 300

Important Combinations by B.V. Raman, yoga #51 is Harihara Brahma yoga, Siva

yoga is yoga #61, and Vishnu Yoga is Yoga #62. While there are ample references

to Harihara Brahama yoga in the classics, I have not come across any mention of

either Siva yoga or Vishnu yoga. Hence the question.

Best regards,

 

--Radha Shenoy

 

 

, " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:

>

> Radhaji,

>

> Hari and Hara are synonyms for Vishnu and Shiva. Hence the yoga goes by

hariharabrahma or brahmavishnushiva yoga.

>

> Regards,

> bhagavathi

>

>

>

> , " aphoton47 " <aphoton47@>

wrote:

> >

> > Bhagwatiji,

> >

> > Thank you, but does he mention Vishnu yoga and Shiva yoga? So far I have

only come across this in B.V.Raman's book.

> >

> > --Radha

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Radhaji,

 

Thanks for the clarification. I think the yogas 61, 62 and 63 (Shiva, vishnu and

Brahma) must be from one of the works of Prof. Suryanarayan Rao.

 

Regards,

bhagavathi

 

 

 

 

, " aphoton47 " <aphoton47

wrote:

>

>

> Bhagavathiji,

> I know that Hari and Hara are synonyms of Vishnu and Shiva, however in 300

Important Combinations by B.V. Raman, yoga #51 is Harihara Brahma yoga, Siva

yoga is yoga #61, and Vishnu Yoga is Yoga #62. While there are ample references

to Harihara Brahama yoga in the classics, I have not come across any mention of

either Siva yoga or Vishnu yoga. Hence the question.

> Best regards,

>

> --Radha Shenoy

>

>

> , " bhagavathi_hariharan "

<bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote:

> >

> > Radhaji,

> >

> > Hari and Hara are synonyms for Vishnu and Shiva. Hence the yoga goes by

hariharabrahma or brahmavishnushiva yoga.

> >

> > Regards,

> > bhagavathi

> >

> >

> >

> > , " aphoton47 " <aphoton47@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhagwatiji,

> > >

> > > Thank you, but does he mention Vishnu yoga and Shiva yoga? So far I have

only come across this in B.V.Raman's book.

> > >

> > > --Radha

> >

>