Difference between Vedic/Puranic/Siddhantic Cosmplogical Concepts

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

Is it possible for you to direct me to some links

other than the one listed below which will be the

english translation of the original Rig Veda / Vishnu

Purana ?

 

Would be grateful for that.

 

Regards

 

Bejoy C.S.

www.keraladarsan

 

 

 

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Bejoy ji,

> Yes, this is why I was telling you that, it is

> Puranic description

> and not the vedic one. To quote my words again -

> ==>

> > Describing the total zodiac as orbiting Pole star

> > is a Puranicdescription and not a vedic one.

> <==

> There is document available in the file section

> which may provide

> some clarity about the difference between Vedic,

> Puranic & Siddhantic

> cosmology. The URL to the said document by

> Prof.Subhash Kak is:

>

Subhash%

> 20Kak/YajnavalkyaandtheOriginsofPuranicCosmology.pdf

>

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> ,

> Bejoy <bejoy_cs

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shreenadh and all,

> >

> > My source of info is as below ... dialogue between

> > Parasara and Maithreya in the Vishnu Purana

> > ..translated by Ralph Griffith.

> >

> >

> > PARÁŒARA. The sphere of the earth (or Bhúr-loka),

> > comprehending its oceans, mountains, and rivers,

> > extends as far as it is illuminated by the rays of

> the

> > sun and moon; and to the same extent, both in

> diameter

> > and circumference, the sphere of the sky

> (Bhuvar-loka)

> > spreads above it (as far upwards as to the

> planetary

> > sphere, or Swar-loka) 1. The solar orb is situated

> a

> > hundred thousand leagues from the earth; and that

> of

> > the moon an equal distance from the sun. At the

> same

> > interval above the moon occurs the orbit of all

> the

> > lunar constellations. The planet Budha (Mercury)

> is

> > two hundred thousand leagues above the lunar

> mansions.

> > Œukra (Venus) is at the same distance from

> Mercury.

> > Angáraka (Mars) is as far above Venus; and the

> priest

> > of the gods (Vrihaspati, or Jupiter) as far from

> Mars:

> > whilst Saturn (Sani) is two hundred and fifty

> thousand

> > leagues beyond Jupiter. The sphere of the seven

> Rishis

> > (Ursa Major) is a hundred thousand leagues above

> > Saturn; and at a similar height above the seven

> Rishis

> > is Dhruva (the pole-star), the pivot or axis of

> the

> > whole planetary circle. Such, Maitreya, is the

> > elevation of the three spheres (Bhúr, Bhuvar,

> Swar)

> > which form the region of the consequences of

> works.

> > The region of works is here (or in the land of

> > Bhárata) 2.

> >

> >

> >

> > p. 213

> >

> > Above Dhruva, at the distance of ton million

> leagues,

> > lies the sphere of saints, or Mahar-loka, the

> > inhabitants of which dwell in it throughout a

> Kalpa,

> > or day of Brahmá. At twice that distance is

> situated

> > Janaloka, where Sanandana and other pure-minded

> sons

> > of Brahmá, reside. At four times the distance,

> between

> > the two last, lies the Tapo-loka (the sphere of

> > penance), inhabited by the deities called

> Vaibhrájas,

> > who are unconsumable by fire. At six times the

> > distance (or twelve Crores, a hundred and twenty

> > millions of leagues) is situated Satya-loka, the

> > sphere of truth, the inhabitants of which never

> again

> > know death 3.

> >

> >

> > p. 214

> >

> > Wherever earthy substance exists, which may be

> > traversed by the feet, that constitutes the sphere

> of

> > the earth, the dimensions of which I have already

> > recounted to you. The region that extends from the

> > earth to the sun, in which the Siddhas and other

> > celestial beings move, is the atmospheric sphere,

> > which also I have described. The interval between

> the

> > sun and Dhruva, extending fourteen hundred

> thousand

> > leagues, is called by those who are acquainted

> with

> > the system of the universe the heavenly sphere.

> These

> > three spheres are termed transitory: the three

> > highest, Jana, Tapa, and Satya, are styled durable

> 4:

> > Maharloka, as situated between the two, has also a

> > mixed character; for although it is deserted at

> the

> > end of the Kalpa, it is not destroyed. These seven

> > spheres, together with the Pátálas, forming the

> extent

> > of the whole world, I have thus, Maitreya,

> explained

> > to you.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Bejoy C.S.

> > www.keraladarsan.com

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Bijoy ji,

> > > ==>

> > > But as per RV - Saptarishis are also a good

> > > candidate

> > > for this job and Dhruva is described as the

> centre

> > > of

> > > the zodiacal wheel. Dhruva being the pole star

> is

> > > almost at 90 degrees from the orbital plane of

> the

> > > solar system, so my above case is also ambigous.

> > > <==

> > > Describing the total zodiac as orbiting Pole

> star

> > > is a Puranic

> > > description and not a vedic one. The description

> is

> > > true in the

> > > sense - we can clearly see it from earth. Since

> > > earth revolves around

> > > its axis, we feel that the the total sky around

> us

> > > (the zodiac)

> > > revolves around the axis fixed across Celestrial

> > > North pole (and thus

> > > Saptarshis) and Celestial South pole. Thus it is

> a

> > > natural

> > > description from a common mans stnd point.

> > > But I don't agree with ascribing the same

> Puranic

> > > decription on

> > > Vedas and then trying to interpret that the Sun

> (and

> > > not the sky)

> > > moves around Saptarshis (celestial pole), giving

> it

> > > an infallible

> > > scientific color but which is truly

> non-scientific

> > > (because it

> > > ascribes the ignorance on Vedic sages and

> assumes

> > > that they

> > > considered earth as the center around which sun

> > > revolves - which

> > > erroneous and not supported by vedic rishis). As

> we

> > > know, the Vedic

> > > sages had the clear understanding that earth

> > > revolves around Sun and

> > > also that earth is a planet like Venus, Jupiter

> etc.

> > > It is wrong to

> > > ascribe the ignorance of Puranic dark ages on

> Vedic

> > > era of knowledge

> > > and understanding. The vedas represent clear and

> > > better understanding

>

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

A beginner myself, I didnt know that Vedic and Puranic

knowledge are different. For me, everything was

looking the same.

 

Is Vedic and Puranic texts always at odds with each

other or is there something that they agree with each

other ? If they dont agree with each other even on the

basics then we too are headed in the wrong direction

by consulting those texts.

..

 

Regards

 

Bejoy C.S

www.keraladarsan.com

 

 

 

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Bejoy ji,

> Yes, this is why I was telling you that, it is

> Puranic description

> and not the vedic one. To quote my words again -

> ==>

> > Describing the total zodiac as orbiting Pole star

> > is a Puranicdescription and not a vedic one.

> <==

> There is document available in the file section

> which may provide

> some clarity about the difference between Vedic,

> Puranic & Siddhantic

> cosmology. The URL to the said document by

> Prof.Subhash Kak is:

>

Subhash%

> 20Kak/YajnavalkyaandtheOriginsofPuranicCosmology.pdf

>

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> ,

> Bejoy <bejoy_cs

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Shreenadh and all,

> >

> > My source of info is as below ... dialogue between

> > Parasara and Maithreya in the Vishnu Purana

> > ..translated by Ralph Griffith.

> >

> >

> > PARÁŒARA. The sphere of the earth (or Bhúr-loka),

> > comprehending its oceans, mountains, and rivers,

> > extends as far as it is illuminated by the rays of

> the

> > sun and moon; and to the same extent, both in

> diameter

> > and circumference, the sphere of the sky

> (Bhuvar-loka)

> > spreads above it (as far upwards as to the

> planetary

> > sphere, or Swar-loka) 1. The solar orb is situated

> a

> > hundred thousand leagues from the earth; and that

> of

> > the moon an equal distance from the sun. At the

> same

> > interval above the moon occurs the orbit of all

> the

> > lunar constellations. The planet Budha (Mercury)

> is

> > two hundred thousand leagues above the lunar

> mansions.

> > Œukra (Venus) is at the same distance from

> Mercury.

> > Angáraka (Mars) is as far above Venus; and the

> priest

> > of the gods (Vrihaspati, or Jupiter) as far from

> Mars:

> > whilst Saturn (Sani) is two hundred and fifty

> thousand

> > leagues beyond Jupiter. The sphere of the seven

> Rishis

> > (Ursa Major) is a hundred thousand leagues above

> > Saturn; and at a similar height above the seven

> Rishis

> > is Dhruva (the pole-star), the pivot or axis of

> the

> > whole planetary circle. Such, Maitreya, is the

> > elevation of the three spheres (Bhúr, Bhuvar,

> Swar)

> > which form the region of the consequences of

> works.

> > The region of works is here (or in the land of

> > Bhárata) 2.

> >

> >

> >

> > p. 213

> >

> > Above Dhruva, at the distance of ton million

> leagues,

> > lies the sphere of saints, or Mahar-loka, the

> > inhabitants of which dwell in it throughout a

> Kalpa,

> > or day of Brahmá. At twice that distance is

> situated

> > Janaloka, where Sanandana and other pure-minded

> sons

> > of Brahmá, reside. At four times the distance,

> between

> > the two last, lies the Tapo-loka (the sphere of

> > penance), inhabited by the deities called

> Vaibhrájas,

> > who are unconsumable by fire. At six times the

> > distance (or twelve Crores, a hundred and twenty

> > millions of leagues) is situated Satya-loka, the

> > sphere of truth, the inhabitants of which never

> again

> > know death 3.

> >

> >

> > p. 214

> >

> > Wherever earthy substance exists, which may be

> > traversed by the feet, that constitutes the sphere

> of

> > the earth, the dimensions of which I have already

> > recounted to you. The region that extends from the

> > earth to the sun, in which the Siddhas and other

> > celestial beings move, is the atmospheric sphere,

> > which also I have described. The interval between

> the

> > sun and Dhruva, extending fourteen hundred

> thousand

> > leagues, is called by those who are acquainted

> with

> > the system of the universe the heavenly sphere.

> These

> > three spheres are termed transitory: the three

> > highest, Jana, Tapa, and Satya, are styled durable

> 4:

> > Maharloka, as situated between the two, has also a

> > mixed character; for although it is deserted at

> the

> > end of the Kalpa, it is not destroyed. These seven

> > spheres, together with the Pátálas, forming the

> extent

> > of the whole world, I have thus, Maitreya,

> explained

> > to you.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Bejoy C.S.

> > www.keraladarsan.com

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Bijoy ji,

> > > ==>

> > > But as per RV - Saptarishis are also a good

> > > candidate

> > > for this job and Dhruva is described as the

> centre

> > > of

> > > the zodiacal wheel. Dhruva being the pole star

> is

> > > almost at 90 degrees from the orbital plane of

> the

> > > solar system, so my above case is also ambigous.

> > > <==

> > > Describing the total zodiac as orbiting Pole

> star

> > > is a Puranic

> > > description and not a vedic one. The description

> is

> > > true in the

> > > sense - we can clearly see it from earth. Since

> > > earth revolves around

> > > its axis, we feel that the the total sky around

> us

> > > (the zodiac)

> > > revolves around the axis fixed across Celestrial

> > > North pole (and thus

> > > Saptarshis) and Celestial South pole. Thus it is

> a

> > > natural

> > > description from a common mans stnd point.

> > > But I don't agree with ascribing the same

> Puranic

> > > decription on

> > > Vedas and then trying to interpret that the Sun

> (and

> > > not the sky)

> > > moves around Saptarshis (celestial pole), giving

> it

> > > an infallible

> > > scientific color but which is truly

> non-scientific

> > > (because it

> > > ascribes the ignorance on Vedic sages and

> assumes

> > > that they

> > > considered earth as the center around which sun

> > > revolves - which

> > > erroneous and not supported by vedic rishis). As

> we

> > > know, the Vedic

> > > sages had the clear understanding that earth

> > > revolves around Sun and

> > > also that earth is a planet like Venus, Jupiter

> etc.

> > > It is wrong to

> > > ascribe the ignorance of Puranic dark ages on

> Vedic

> > > era of knowledge

> > > and understanding. The vedas represent clear and

> > > better understanding

>

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Dear Sreenadh,

 

Many thanks for your efforts. Please spare time when

you are free to do so.

 

Regards

 

Bejoy C.S.

www.keraladarsan.com

 

 

 

--- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Bejoy ji,

> ==>

> Is Vedic and Puranic texts always at odds with each

> other or is there something that they agree with

> each

> other ? If they dont agree with each other even on

> the

> basics then we too are headed in the wrong direction

> by consulting those texts.

> <==

> In many instances there are much difference between

> Vedic, Epic &

> Puranic knowledge. There was a long dark age, and

> lack of continuity

> between the knowledge of Vedic period and the

> knowledge and stories

> of puranic period. The puranic knowledge does not

> reflect the height

> of understanding and scientific and systematic

> understanding as

> reflected in the Vedic literature (Vedas, Upanishads

> etc). There are

> hundreds of examples that can be used to clarify the

> same. If you

> really need I can provide one as well - but don't

> make me do hard

> work, because it is very difficult to find free time

> for me.

> Your last statement in the above extract - makes me

> advice - Don't

> just into such hasty conclusions such as 'we too are

> headed in the

> wrong direction by consulting those texts', instead

> dive into them,

> study them, and try to understand them in a better

> way - and don't

> ever lose the grip from your life belt which is your

> own intelligence

> and continuity.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> ,

> Bejoy <bejoy_cs

> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Sreenadh,

> >

> > A beginner myself, I didnt know that Vedic and

> Puranic

> > knowledge are different. For me, everything was

> > looking the same.

> >

> > Is Vedic and Puranic texts always at odds with

> each

> > other or is there something that they agree with

> each

> > other ? If they dont agree with each other even on

> the

> > basics then we too are headed in the wrong

> direction

> > by consulting those texts.

> > .

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Bejoy C.S

> > www.keraladarsan.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Bejoy ji,

> > > Yes, this is why I was telling you that, it is

> > > Puranic description

> > > and not the vedic one. To quote my words again -

> > > ==>

> > > > Describing the total zodiac as orbiting Pole

> star

> > > > is a Puranicdescription and not a vedic one.

> > > <==

> > > There is document available in the file section

> > > which may provide

> > > some clarity about the difference between Vedic,

> > > Puranic & Siddhantic

> > > cosmology. The URL to the said document by

> > > Prof.Subhash Kak is:

> > >

> >

>

Subhash%

> > >

> 20Kak/YajnavalkyaandtheOriginsofPuranicCosmology.pdf

> > >

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > > ,

> > > Bejoy <bejoy_cs@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Shreenadh and all,

> > > >

> > > > My source of info is as below ... dialogue

> between

> > > > Parasara and Maithreya in the Vishnu Purana

> > > > ..translated by Ralph Griffith.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > PARÁŒARA. The sphere of the earth (or

> Bhúr-loka),

> > > > comprehending its oceans, mountains, and

> rivers,

> > > > extends as far as it is illuminated by the

> rays of

> > > the

> > > > sun and moon; and to the same extent, both in

> > > diameter

> > > > and circumference, the sphere of the sky

> > > (Bhuvar-loka)

> > > > spreads above it (as far upwards as to the

> > > planetary

> > > > sphere, or Swar-loka) 1. The solar orb is

> situated

> > > a

> > > > hundred thousand leagues from the earth; and

> that

> > > of

> > > > the moon an equal distance from the sun. At

> the

> > > same

> > > > interval above the moon occurs the orbit of

> all

> > > the

> > > > lunar constellations. The planet Budha

> (Mercury)

> > > is

> > > > two hundred thousand leagues above the lunar

> > > mansions.

> > > > Œukra (Venus) is at the same distance from

> > > Mercury.

> > > > Angáraka (Mars) is as far above Venus; and the

> > > priest

> > > > of the gods (Vrihaspati, or Jupiter) as far

> from

> > > Mars:

> > > > whilst Saturn (Sani) is two hundred and fifty

> > > thousand

> > > > leagues beyond Jupiter. The sphere of the

> seven

> > > Rishis

> > > > (Ursa Major) is a hundred thousand leagues

> above

> > > > Saturn; and at a similar height above the

> seven

> > > Rishis

> > > > is Dhruva (the pole-star), the pivot or axis

> of

> > > the

> > > > whole planetary circle. Such, Maitreya, is the

> > > > elevation of the three spheres (Bhúr, Bhuvar,

> > > Swar)

> > > > which form the region of the consequences of

> > > works.

> > > > The region of works is here (or in the land of

> > > > Bhárata) 2.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > p. 213

> > > >

> > > > Above Dhruva, at the distance of ton million

> > > leagues,

> > > > lies the sphere of saints, or Mahar-loka, the

> > > > inhabitants of which dwell in it throughout a

> > > Kalpa,

> > > > or day of Brahmá. At twice that distance is

> > > situated

> > > > Janaloka, where Sanandana and other

> pure-minded

> > > sons

> > > > of Brahmá, reside. At four times the distance,

> > > between

> > > > the two last, lies the Tapo-loka (the sphere

> of

> > > > penance), inhabited by the deities called

> > > Vaibhrájas,

> > > > who are unconsumable by fire. At six times the

> > > > distance (or twelve Crores, a hundred and

> twenty

> > > > millions of leagues) is situated Satya-loka,

> the

> > > > sphere of truth, the inhabitants of which

> never

> > > again

> > > > know death 3.

> > > >

> > > >

>

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Dear Mr. Bejoy,

I agree with you , Veda and Puran give the same massage ; there is no basic different.

The different lies in once thinking and vision. There are many Gods and deities , and all f them are different.

Lord Krishna says:

At the end of many births the wise man comes to Me, realising that all this is Vaasudeva;such a great sou is very hard to find.

Those whose wisdom has been rent away by this or that desire , go to many gods, following this or that rite, led by their own nature.

Whatever form any devotee desires to worship with faith--that faith of his I make firm and UNFLINCHING.

Endowed with that faith , he engages in the worship of that and from it he obtains his desire, these verily ordained by me alone.

Verily the reward that accrues to those men of small intelligence is finite. The worshippers of the various gods go to them . but My devotees come to Me.

The foolish think of Me , the Unmanifest , as having manifestation , knowing not My higher , Immutable and most excellent nature.

GITA CH-7 Sl19 to 24

Veda and Puran give only above massage and nothing else.

Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

Bejoy <bejoy_cs Sent: Tuesday, 11 December, 2007 6:09:45 PMRe: Re: Difference between Vedic/Puranic/Siddhantic Cosmplogical Concepts

 

Dear Sreenadh,A beginner myself, I didnt know that Vedic and Puranicknowledge are different. For me, everything waslooking the same.Is Vedic and Puranic texts always at odds with eachother or is there something that they agree with eachother ? If they dont agree with each other even on thebasics then we too are headed in the wrong directionby consulting those texts..RegardsBejoy C.Swww.keraladarsan. com--- Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote:> Dear Bejoy ji,> Yes, this is why I was telling you that, it is> Puranic description > and not the vedic one. To quote my words again -> ==>> > Describing the total zodiac as orbiting Pole star> > is a Puranicdescription and not a vedic one. > <==>

There is document available in the file section> which may provide > some clarity about the difference between Vedic,> Puranic & Siddhantic > cosmology. The URL to the said document by> Prof.Subhash Kak is: >http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology Subhash%> 20Kak/Yajnavalkyaan dtheOriginsofPur anicCosmology. pdf> > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology,> Bejoy <bejoy_cs@.. .> > wrote:> >> > Dear Shreenadh and all,> > > > My source of info is as below ... dialogue between>

> Parasara and Maithreya in the Vishnu Purana> > ..translated by Ralph Griffith.> > > > > > PARÃÅ’ARA. The sphere of the earth (or Bhúr-loka),> > comprehending its oceans, mountains, and rivers,> > extends as far as it is illuminated by the rays of> the> > sun and moon; and to the same extent, both in> diameter> > and circumference, the sphere of the sky> (Bhuvar-loka)> > spreads above it (as far upwards as to the> planetary> > sphere, or Swar-loka) 1. The solar orb is situated> a> > hundred thousand leagues from the earth; and that> of> > the moon an equal distance from the sun. At the> same> > interval above the moon occurs the orbit of all> the> > lunar constellations. The planet Budha (Mercury)> is> > two hundred thousand leagues above

the lunar> mansions.> > Œukra (Venus) is at the same distance from> Mercury.> > Angáraka (Mars) is as far above Venus; and the> priest> > of the gods (Vrihaspati, or Jupiter) as far from> Mars:> > whilst Saturn (Sani) is two hundred and fifty> thousand> > leagues beyond Jupiter. The sphere of the seven> Rishis> > (Ursa Major) is a hundred thousand leagues above> > Saturn; and at a similar height above the seven> Rishis> > is Dhruva (the pole-star), the pivot or axis of> the> > whole planetary circle. Such, Maitreya, is the> > elevation of the three spheres (Bhúr, Bhuvar,> Swar)> > which form the region of the consequences of> works.> > The region of works is here (or in the land of> > Bhárata) 2.> > > > > > > > p.

213> > > > Above Dhruva, at the distance of ton million> leagues,> > lies the sphere of saints, or Mahar-loka, the> > inhabitants of which dwell in it throughout a> Kalpa,> > or day of Brahmá. At twice that distance is> situated> > Janaloka, where Sanandana and other pure-minded> sons> > of Brahmá, reside. At four times the distance,> between> > the two last, lies the Tapo-loka (the sphere of> > penance), inhabited by the deities called> Vaibhrájas,> > who are unconsumable by fire. At six times the> > distance (or twelve Crores, a hundred and twenty> > millions of leagues) is situated Satya-loka, the> > sphere of truth, the inhabitants of which never> again> > know death 3.> > > > > > p. 214> > > > Wherever earthy

substance exists, which may be> > traversed by the feet, that constitutes the sphere> of> > the earth, the dimensions of which I have already> > recounted to you. The region that extends from the> > earth to the sun, in which the Siddhas and other> > celestial beings move, is the atmospheric sphere,> > which also I have described. The interval between> the> > sun and Dhruva, extending fourteen hundred> thousand> > leagues, is called by those who are acquainted> with> > the system of the universe the heavenly sphere.> These> > three spheres are termed transitory: the three> > highest, Jana, Tapa, and Satya, are styled durable> 4:> > Maharloka, as situated between the two, has also a> > mixed character; for although it is deserted at> the> > end of the Kalpa, it is not

destroyed. These seven> > spheres, together with the Pátálas, forming the> extent> > of the whole world, I have thus, Maitreya,> explained> > to you.> > > > Regards> > > > Bejoy C.S.> > www.keraladarsan. com> > > > > > > > --- Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote:> > > > > Dear Bijoy ji,> > > ==>> > > But as per RV - Saptarishis are also a good> > > candidate> > > for this job and Dhruva is described as the> centre> > > of> > > the zodiacal wheel. Dhruva being the pole star> is> > > almost at 90 degrees from the orbital plane of> the> > > solar system, so my above case is also ambigous.> > > <==> > > Describing the total zodiac as orbiting

Pole> star> > > is a Puranic > > > description and not a vedic one. The description> is> > > true in the > > > sense - we can clearly see it from earth. Since> > > earth revolves around > > > its axis, we feel that the the total sky around> us> > > (the zodiac) > > > revolves around the axis fixed across Celestrial> > > North pole (and thus > > > Saptarshis) and Celestial South pole. Thus it is> a> > > natural > > > description from a common mans stnd point. > > > But I don't agree with ascribing the same> Puranic> > > decription on > > > Vedas and then trying to interpret that the Sun> (and> > > not the sky) > > > moves around Saptarshis (celestial pole), giving> it> > > an

infallible > > > scientific color but which is truly> non-scientific> > > (because it > > > ascribes the ignorance on Vedic sages and> assumes> > > that they > > > considered earth as the center around which sun> > > revolves - which > > > erroneous and not supported by vedic rishis). As> we> > > know, the Vedic > > > sages had the clear understanding that earth> > > revolves around Sun and > > > also that earth is a planet like Venus, Jupiter> etc.> > > It is wrong to > > > ascribe the ignorance of Puranic dark ages on> Vedic> > > era of knowledge > > > and understanding. The vedas represent clear and> > > better understanding > === message truncated ===____________ _________ _________ _________

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