Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Shree Sreenadhji, Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As they can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... I hope that this doesn't hurt u, Thanq, Wish u all success, With Humbleness, , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > Kuja Dosha > ----------- > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > ==> > The classic says, > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, 12th > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has this > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the reason > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it with > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > <== > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? Because > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear in > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka (horoscope > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka chandrika > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known as > Jataka chandrika). > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja Dosha > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If we > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have Kuja > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, 7th > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let us > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given in > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a clear > picture :- > Ma in Lagna - > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or benefics > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one malefic > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > Ma in 2nd – > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to fructify. > Ma in 4th – > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on Ma is > necessary. > Ma in 7th – > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for many > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for sure. > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual activities > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is present > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the permission > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th then > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give much > importance to married life. > Ma in 8th - > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma for > these predictions to fructify. > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name for the > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th lord > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or some > children may die at birth. > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so it > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > Ma in 12th – > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th or > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they can > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the wrong > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2-4-7- 8 ? > I will clarify – > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > marriage. > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th house. > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. But > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the predictions > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > though all these have some special relation to marriage and married > life. > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost non- > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. If we > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using the > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in Cp in > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause death of > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid of > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or otherwise > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only help > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It is > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is not a > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the native. > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe guard his > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is Kuja > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may be… > there could be many other reasons as well. > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given for > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names life > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life miserable > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the word, > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th from > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > ======================== > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th house, and > their influence on married life- > Love, > Sreenadh > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Gaurav, Why did u delete those files? I think those were really interesting posts. I had just started reading the article on Indus Valley.... When doubts n queries are raised on my > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them... So what if doubts and queries are raised? This is the true test of the " goodness " of any article, i.e., how many thoughts it generates in others. Doubts and queries are a very essential part of learning, aren't they? I do wish u good luck in your research into these subjects. ITs a great beginning!!! Keep it up! And do post back the articles, if u can. Love, Vinita , " " <gg_0202 wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Shree Sreenadhji, > Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As they > can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... > So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... > I hope that this doesn't hurt u, > Thanq, > Wish u all success, > With Humbleness, > > > > , " Sreenadh " > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > > > Kuja Dosha > > ----------- > > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > > ==> > > The classic says, > > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, > 12th > > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has > this > > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the > reason > > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it > with > > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > > <== > > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? > Because > > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear in > > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka > (horoscope > > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka chandrika > > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known as > > Jataka chandrika). > > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja Dosha > > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If we > > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have Kuja > > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, > 7th > > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let us > > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given > in > > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a > clear > > picture :- > > Ma in Lagna - > > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or > benefics > > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one malefic > > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > > Ma in 2nd – > > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to fructify. > > Ma in 4th – > > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on Ma > is > > necessary. > > Ma in 7th – > > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for > many > > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for > sure. > > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual activities > > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is > present > > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the > permission > > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th then > > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give much > > importance to married life. > > Ma in 8th - > > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma for > > these predictions to fructify. > > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name for > the > > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th > lord > > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or > some > > children may die at birth. > > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so it > > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > > Ma in 12th – > > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th > or > > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they can > > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the > wrong > > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2-4- 7- > 8 ? > > I will clarify – > > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > > marriage. > > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th > house. > > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. > But > > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the > predictions > > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > > though all these have some special relation to marriage and > married > > life. > > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost > non- > > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. If > we > > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using the > > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in Cp > in > > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause death > of > > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid of > > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or > otherwise > > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only > help > > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It is > > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is not > a > > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the > native. > > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe guard > his > > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is Kuja > > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may be… > > there could be many other reasons as well. > > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given > for > > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names > life > > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life > miserable > > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the word, > > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th > from > > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > > ======================== > > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th house, > and > > their influence on married life- > > Love, > > Sreenadh > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 And Gaurav, also look at the brilliance of reducing all those " unhappy " placements of Mars to just 2, i.e., in the 7th and 8th Houses. Don't u think this is a good learning experience for us too? And it happened just because of your article!!! , " vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > Why did u delete those files? I think those were really interesting > posts. I had just started reading the article on Indus Valley.... > > When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them... > > So what if doubts and queries are raised? This is the true test of > the " goodness " of any article, i.e., how many thoughts it generates > in others. Doubts and queries are a very essential part of learning, > aren't they? > > I do wish u good luck in your research into these subjects. ITs a > great beginning!!! Keep it up! And do post back the articles, if u > can. > > Love, > Vinita > > , " " > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Shree Sreenadhji, > > Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As > they > > can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... > > So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... > > I hope that this doesn't hurt u, > > Thanq, > > Wish u all success, > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > > > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > > > > > Kuja Dosha > > > ----------- > > > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > > > ==> > > > The classic says, > > > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > > > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > > > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, > > 12th > > > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has > > this > > > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the > > reason > > > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > > > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > > > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it > > with > > > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > > > <== > > > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? > > Because > > > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear > in > > > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka > > (horoscope > > > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka > chandrika > > > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known > as > > > Jataka chandrika). > > > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja > Dosha > > > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If > we > > > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have > Kuja > > > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > > > > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, > > 7th > > > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let > us > > > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given > > in > > > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a > > clear > > > picture :- > > > Ma in Lagna - > > > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > > > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or > > benefics > > > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one > malefic > > > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > > > Ma in 2nd – > > > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > > > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to > fructify. > > > Ma in 4th – > > > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > > > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on > Ma > > is > > > necessary. > > > Ma in 7th – > > > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > > > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > > > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for > > many > > > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for > > sure. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > > > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual > activities > > > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is > > present > > > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the > > permission > > > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th > then > > > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give > much > > > importance to married life. > > > Ma in 8th - > > > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > > > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma > for > > > these predictions to fructify. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name > for > > the > > > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th > > lord > > > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > > > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or > > some > > > children may die at birth. > > > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so > it > > > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > > > Ma in 12th – > > > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > > > > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th > > or > > > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they > can > > > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > > > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the > > wrong > > > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2- 4- > 7- > > 8 ? > > > I will clarify – > > > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > > > marriage. > > > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th > > house. > > > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > > > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > > > > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. > > But > > > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the > > predictions > > > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > > > though all these have some special relation to marriage and > > married > > > life. > > > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > > > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost > > non- > > > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. > If > > we > > > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using > the > > > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in > Cp > > in > > > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > > > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause > death > > of > > > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid > of > > > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > > > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or > > otherwise > > > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only > > help > > > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It > is > > > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is > not > > a > > > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the > > native. > > > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > > > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe > guard > > his > > > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is > Kuja > > > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may > be… > > > there could be many other reasons as well. > > > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given > > for > > > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names > > life > > > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life > > miserable > > > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the > word, > > > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th > > from > > > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > > > ======================== > > > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > > > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th > house, > > and > > > their influence on married life- > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Posted June 8, 2006 Dear Vinita ji, I had a chat with Gourav ji. Yes, I too requested him to upload it again. But he feels that such a file will cause the learners to think in wrong direction, and so is not willing to upload it agian! But yes, I hop, we can see many more contributions from him in the coming days. I am looking forward to that. Our chat branched to the total system of horoscope matching and I think that would be a good disscussion, were Gaurav ji will provide good contributions. My Regards to him. Love, Sreenadh , " vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > Dear Gaurav, > > Why did u delete those files? I think those were really interesting > posts. I had just started reading the article on Indus Valley.... > > When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them... > > So what if doubts and queries are raised? This is the true test of > the " goodness " of any article, i.e., how many thoughts it generates > in others. Doubts and queries are a very essential part of learning, > aren't they? > > I do wish u good luck in your research into these subjects. ITs a > great beginning!!! Keep it up! And do post back the articles, if u > can. > > Love, > Vinita > > , " " > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Shree Sreenadhji, > > Thanq for your feedback...When doubts n queries are raised on my > > articles...so its better if i refrain from uploading them...As > they > > can create a false meaning...who r new to this science... > > So i consider it to be better if i delete all files posted by me... > > I hope that this doesn't hurt u, > > Thanq, > > Wish u all success, > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > > > , " Sreenadh " > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > The following is some thoughts on Kuja Dosha when I read the > > > article by Gourav Ghosh on the same. > > > > > > Kuja Dosha > > > ----------- > > > Gourav Ghosh quotes the following sloka for Kuja Dosha- > > > ==> > > > The classic says, > > > lagne byaye ca pätäle yämitre cäñöame kuje| > > > kanyä harati bhartäram bhartä bhäryäm haniñyati|| > > > It means that presence of Mars in Lagna, 4th house, 7th house, > > 12th > > > house or in 8th house results into Kuja Dosha. If the bride has > > this > > > kind of placement of Mars in her chart, then she becomes the > > reason > > > for her husband's death, while if the groom has this kind of > > > placement, then he becomes the reason for his wife's death. > > > Some often includes 2nd house for no reason, others consider it > > with > > > respect to other planets, which should not be done & reasonless. > > > <== > > > He does not say in which classic, this sloka is present. Why? > > Because > > > this is a sloka with no father! This is a sloka that appear > in > > > the Prarisishta (extra slokas included) in the stri Jataka > > (horoscope > > > of women) portion of a non-authentic book called Jataka > chandrika > > > (This book is different from Laghu parasari which is also known > as > > > Jataka chandrika). > > > If Ma placed in 1, 2,4,7,12 (total 5 signs) can produce Kuja > Dosha > > > then 5/12 = 41.66..% of the horoscope will have Kuja Dosah! If > we > > > consider Mo as well, then 83.33... % of horoscopes will have > Kuja > > > Dosha!!! It is absurd! > > > > > > What is the real predictions that are given for Ma in 2nd, 4th, > > 7th > > > and 12th from Lagna? How it differs from this absurd sloka? Let > us > > > have a look at the married life related actual predictions given > > in > > > texts like Brigu sutra, Varaha hora, Jataka Tatwa etc to have a > > clear > > > picture :- > > > Ma in Lagna - > > > May have wounds/diseases, will not have long life, less > > > children, too much interest in ladies. If Ma is strong, or > > benefics > > > aspects Ma all these wouldn't happen, but if at least one > malefic > > > aspects Ma such effects can be predicted. > > > Ma in 2nd – > > > Too much interest in worldly pleasures, 2 wives etc. Here > > > also a malefic should aspect Ma for these predictions to > fructify. > > > Ma in 4th – > > > Quarrels in home, living in rented house, forsaken by > > > relatives and quarrels with them. Here too a malefic aspect on > Ma > > is > > > necessary. > > > Ma in 7th – > > > Diseases to wife, Loss (death?) of Wife, late marriage, life > > > abroad away from wife, interest in prostitution, interest in > > > perverted sex etc. Here the aspect of malefic is not a must for > > many > > > of these results to fructify. Therefore this is Kuja dosha for > > sure. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma-Ve combination is present in 7th > > > she will be too much interested in indulging in sexual > activities > > > with persons other than husband. If Ma-Ve-Mo combination is > > present > > > in 7th she will indulge in sex with other persons with the > > permission > > > of her husband! If Ma is in 7th and a benefic is there in 9th > then > > > she would be much interested in spirituality, and won't give > much > > > importance to married life. > > > Ma in 8th - > > > Diseases related to penis or sexual organs, Loss (death) of > > > wife, less children, etc. Here also a malefic should aspect Ma > for > > > these predictions to fructify. > > > In women's horoscope if Ma is in 8th, she will cause bad name > for > > the > > > family in which she is born. If the Dasa of Navamsa lord of 8th > > lord > > > occurs then at that period her husband will die. If Ma-Ve-Ju > > > combination is present in 8th she will have many abortions, or > > some > > > children may die at birth. > > > Therefore Ma in 8th can cause very bad results at times and so > it > > > could be considered as Kuja dosha. > > > Ma in 12th – > > > Life away from home and wife (i.e. going abroad). > > > > > > All these indicates that except the placement of Ma in 7th > > or > > > 8th the other combinations are not that dreaded. Normally they > can > > > not cause death of Husband/Wife. > > > Then what was the logic behind frightening all with the > > wrong > > > prediction of Death (!) related to the placement of Ma in 1-2-4- > 7- > > 8 ? > > > I will clarify – > > > Ma in Lagna – Aspects 7th house which is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 2nd - Aspects 8th house which is related to life after > > > marriage. > > > Ma in 4th – Aspects 7th house which its special Drishti in 4th > > house. > > > Ma in 7th –7th house is related to marriage. > > > Ma in 8th - 8th house is related to life after marriage. > > > Ma in 12th – Aspects 7th with its special Drishti in 8th house. > > > > > > So essentially the concept is related to 7th and 8th house only. > > But > > > the fool who created this sloka never considered that the > > predictions > > > given for Ma in 1-2-4-12 house are not as strong as Death, even > > > though all these have some special relation to marriage and > > married > > > life. > > > Even for the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th house, there are > > > many rules of exceptions, which makes this dreaded dosha almost > > non- > > > existent! The ancient classics never uses the term Kuja Dosha. > If > > we > > > start using the word Kuja dosha, then why can't we start using > the > > > words Sani Dosha, Surya Dosha, Rahu Dosha, Ju Dosha (yap, Ju in > Cp > > in > > > 7th can cause death of wife), Me dosha (Yap, Me in Ta in 7th can > > > cuase loss of first wife), Ve Dosha (yap, Ve in Sc can cause > death > > of > > > wife), etc as well?! We are not using it, and so let us get rid > of > > > the word Kuja Dosha as well. > > > If you go for remedies, go for all these and many more or > > otherwise > > > reject the costly remedies suggested for this dosha (which only > > help > > > to strengthen the pocket of the astrologers or his helpers). It > is > > > better to reject that astrologer as well, since probably he is > not > > a > > > true astrologer, who follows the classics and thinks for the > > native. > > > He is probably just using a frightening technique he got from a > > > fatherless sloka for some purpose! It could be just to safe > guard > > his > > > respect as an astrologer (when all other will say that it is > Kuja > > > Dosha, how can be stay back!), or may be to reap money, or may > be… > > > there could be many other reasons as well. > > > Ma is just like any other planet, the special predictions given > > for > > > its particular placement is important and not the dreaded names > > life > > > Kuja Dosha, which makes people fearful and makes their life > > miserable > > > for no reason! But still if you are reluctant to reject the > word, > > > then use it only related to the placement of Ma in 7th and 8th > > from > > > Lagna or Moon (which ever is strong). > > > ======================== > > > Expecting more inputs on the same, and looking forward to an > > > elaborate discussion of placement of grahas in 7th and 8th > house, > > and > > > their influence on married life- > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 Dear All, An edited version of a Jun 2006 conversation on Kuja Dosha is posted in AIA website at: Kuja Dosha Check it out! :)Love and regards,Sreenadh Quote
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