Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Ash, Thanks for your reply. I have one more query. It is dealing with quality of events. Now the lessons state that the quality of the event and timing of the event are two different things and should not be mixed together. We also find that when the event takes place in the significator having lowest points the results are bad. So, can we apply this rule that when the karaka is spoilt and their are other indications too the the results will be spoilt then we can use the lowest significator to time events. In this case, we shall be using the quality of the event to time the event but that may be the correct thing to do. Will this be the appropriate thing to do? Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and also > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain status. > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing status > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I agree > with your findings. > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status of > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again loosing > status. > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So overall I > feel that it does might not give results. > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if Moon > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm the > sector. > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be second > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen in > 1st sector itself ? > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Hi Ash, > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let me > know > > if there are mistakes. > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is good. > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be head > > strong). > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > placed > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > been > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall start. > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that the > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > with > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I am > not > > sure here! > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence it is > > eager to give results. > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Manu, > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > causing > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last sector. > At > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET IS > > LOD > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw with > > Shani > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will be > > more > > > confident with more practice. > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of the > > chart > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try to > > give > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the same > time > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it means > > there > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > happen > > in > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in mind. > > Thats > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is used > > only > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha the > > event > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is not > > the > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see if > I > > > can > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Ash and Manu, Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of you for analyzing my chart. I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how can we calculate points. Thanks Hemaashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Krushnaji and Manu,Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and also its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain status. Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing status for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I agree with your findings.Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results.Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status of Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again loosing status.Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So overall I feel that it does might not give results.Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if Moon can give results for timing of events for marriage.I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm the sector.Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be second sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen in 1st sector itself ?If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ?Thanking you,Cheers !!!Ash , "Manu Batura" <manubatura> wrote:> Hi Ash,> > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let me know > if there are mistakes.> > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc.> > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9.> lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9.> Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9!> > So, marriage points are 90. That is good.> > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is good.> SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be head > strong).> > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also placed > with LoC (ve) in navamsa.> > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi.> > So, I am assuming full delay.> > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has been > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall start.> > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that the > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su with > low points (10) may not be able to give results either.> > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I am not > sure here!> > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence it is > eager to give results.> > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007.> > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa.> > Regards,> Manu> > > > > , "ashsam73" > <ashsam73> wrote:> > Dear Manu,> > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it.> > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > causing > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last sector. At > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET IS > LOD > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV.> > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw with > Shani > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will be > more > > confident with more practice.> > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of the > chart > > and then you can narrow to proper sector.> > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try to > give > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the same time > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it means > there > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY happen > in > > the first sector only.> > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in mind. > Thats > > been my experience this far.> > > > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > > > , "Manu Batura" > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > Thanks Ash,> > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is used > only > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator.> > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha the > event > > > happens by the rules.> > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is not > the > > > significator?> > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see if I > > can > > > figure out the period.> > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear.> > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then> > > > that can also cause further delay.> > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more> > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse.> > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in> > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay.> > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many> > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that> > > > can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study> > > > each status carefully.> > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will> > > > come with experience and you will start to get a> > > > feeler on such things.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay.> > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing> > > > > planets.> > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can> > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to> > > > > Saturn?> > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay?> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash> > > > > Sam > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0> > > > > > deg.> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > How 2 times.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it> > > > > will> > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo> > > > > ...............> > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > ,> > > > > > > "Manu Batura" > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut> > > > > 0> > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > ,> > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in> > > > > rush I> > > > > > > made mistake.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for> > > > > full> > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the> > > > > chart> > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "Manu> > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts> > > > > cleared> > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when> > > > > Sa> > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay,> > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be> > > > > from> > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees)> > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from> > > > > the> > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about> > > > > delay.> > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > later.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > ,> > > > > "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some> > > > > > > observations> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and> > > > > it> > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in> > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay> > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in> > > > > Lesson> > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house> > > > > malefically> > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't> > > > > find> > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what Ash suggested. I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 relation. The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only. According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken as 0. I am not very sure though. Regards, Manu , mba queen <mba_queen> wrote: > > Dear Ash and Manu, > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of you for analyzing my chart. > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how can we calculate points. > > Thanks > Hema > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and also > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain status. > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing status > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I agree > with your findings. > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status of > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again loosing > status. > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So overall I > feel that it does might not give results. > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if Moon > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm the > sector. > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be second > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen in > 1st sector itself ? > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Hi Ash, > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let me > know > > if there are mistakes. > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is good. > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be head > > strong). > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > placed > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > been > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall start. > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that the > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > with > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I am > not > > sure here! > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence it is > > eager to give results. > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Manu, > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > causing > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last sector. > At > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET IS > > LOD > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw with > > Shani > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will be > > more > > > confident with more practice. > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of the > > chart > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try to > > give > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the same > time > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it means > > there > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > happen > > in > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in mind. > > Thats > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is used > > only > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha the > > event > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is not > > the > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see if > I > > > can > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Krushnaji, Manu and Hema, Manu and Hema, your previous mail I shall answer in the morning when I feel more fresh. Here is my understanding. 1) 5:9 is nav pancham. Nakshatras in 5:9 houses are same. If you see from House ABCDE then if you observe keenly House B and C are always in nav pancham. 2) 3:11 are in upchaya which is good. 3) 2:12 means disharmony. 4) 6:8 means disputes 5) 1:7 means 1 and 7th houses are always enemies. So in this case its more a fight for domination. Natural samdharmi's when in 1:7 position cease to become Samdharmis. So for example Venus and Saturn are in opposite houses then they will not be natural samdhamris as they become like functional enemies. Similarly for Moon and Mars and Moon and Sun. 6) Same house : Here they becomes Samdharmis. if the distance between the 2 planets is less than 15 degrees then consider them as 4:10 and if greater than 15 degrees then consider it as 2:12 7) 4:10 is boss / subordinate relation or opposition but with respect. About allocating points I shall leave that to Krushnaji. Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what > Ash suggested. > > I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 relation. > The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only. > > According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken as > 0. I am not very sure though. > > Regards, > Manu > > , mba queen > <mba_queen> wrote: > > > > Dear Ash and Manu, > > > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of > you for analyzing my chart. > > > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's > house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how can > we calculate points. > > > > Thanks > > Hema > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and also > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > status. > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing status > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I agree > > with your findings. > > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > of > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > loosing > > status. > > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So overall > I > > feel that it does might not give results. > > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if Moon > > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > the > > sector. > > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be second > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen in > > 1st sector itself ? > > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let me > > know > > > if there are mistakes. > > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > good. > > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be head > > > strong). > > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > placed > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > been > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall start. > > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that the > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > with > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I am > > not > > > sure here! > > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence it > is > > > eager to give results. > > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > causing > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last sector. > > At > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > IS > > > LOD > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw with > > > Shani > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > be > > > more > > > > confident with more practice. > > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of the > > > chart > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > to > > > give > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the same > > time > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it means > > > there > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > happen > > > in > > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in mind. > > > Thats > > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is used > > > only > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha the > > > event > > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > not > > > the > > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > if > > I > > > > can > > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Manu, Its the other way. First you see the chart and see happiness is it promised in the chart. If there are indications of say multiple marriages or a seperation then in such cases either marriage will be in lowest significator and will break in highest significator or LoD or LoE. Worksheet give u strength of planet for all houses. When the event will happen in lowest points from WS or LoD or LoE from WS or highest points from WS is our choice based on what we first judge from a chart. So use the worksheet to see overall results and to time but that is the last step. First u have to study the chart and then use Worksheet to time. Now quality of event is different from timing. You can time a marriage i.e. from worksheet. Say you see that a chart has problems but still there are no laws fitting for a No Marriage scenario. Then in that case marriage will take place. So that is timing of event. So if someone asks u. .when will I get married you can use the worksheet to time it maybe in the weakest significator. Now quality of marriage is differnt issue. Problems may start to creep in when planets with more points come up and about and when LoD or LoE or planets in House D or E come then such things will get enhanced and it MAY break if such things are seen. That is also timing of an event. Similarly for Job, see the nature of person, his intellegence, capability first, see his lagna points, and also see where lagna lord is, 6th lord is.. if say lagna lord is in 12th then status of Karak of A for job is weakened. Such things show us something. At the same time see if Moon is with Rahu then it can show something about natore of the person .. see lagna lord in relation to say 9th lord or 11th lord for boss or friends if they are in 5:9 then its nice person is friendly can get along if in 6:8 then it can show some issues... now at the same time say lagna points are over 40 then person can be very adamenet or sensitive and may break or leave job etc etc.... So we need to see all things together. Think over this. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your reply. > > I have one more query. It is dealing with quality of events. > > Now the lessons state that the quality of the event and timing of the > event are two different things and should not be mixed together. > > We also find that when the event takes place in the significator > having lowest points the results are bad. > > So, can we apply this rule that when the karaka is spoilt and their > are other indications too the the results will be spoilt then we can > use the lowest significator to time events. > > In this case, we shall be using the quality of the event to time the > event but that may be the correct thing to do. > > Will this be the appropriate thing to do? > > Regards, > Manu > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and also > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > status. > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing status > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I agree > > with your findings. > > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > of > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > loosing > > status. > > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So overall > I > > feel that it does might not give results. > > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if Moon > > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > the > > sector. > > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be second > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen in > > 1st sector itself ? > > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let me > > know > > > if there are mistakes. > > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > good. > > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be head > > > strong). > > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > placed > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > been > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall start. > > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that the > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > with > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I am > > not > > > sure here! > > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence it > is > > > eager to give results. > > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > causing > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last sector. > > At > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > IS > > > LOD > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw with > > > Shani > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > be > > > more > > > > confident with more practice. > > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of the > > > chart > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > to > > > give > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the same > > time > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it means > > > there > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > happen > > > in > > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in mind. > > > Thats > > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is used > > > only > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha the > > > event > > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > not > > > the > > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > if > > I > > > > can > > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Thanks Ash, Ash, I was also thinking about the Mo and Sa in 7th together scenario. Why does this combination delay marriage? Is there an explanation wrt points? One thing is sure the combination gives less AV points to 7th house, only 6 if we do not consider the other planets. However, this cannot be the only reason, since there are many more combinations of mo and sa too that give low points to hs7. For example, mo in asc and sa in 6th give only 5 points. It seems like an 8 dimensional clock (disregarding ra and ke)! with 12^8 combinations (actually not quite since me and ve can't go away from su that much). But then we have divisionals too. Great! Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manu, > Its the other way. First you see the chart and see happiness is it > promised in the chart. If there are indications of say multiple > marriages or a seperation then in such cases either marriage will be > in lowest significator and will break in highest significator or LoD > or LoE. > > Worksheet give u strength of planet for all houses. When the event > will happen in lowest points from WS or LoD or LoE from WS or highest > points from WS is our choice based on what we first judge from a > chart. > > So use the worksheet to see overall results and to time but that is > the last step. First u have to study the chart and then use > Worksheet to time. > > Now quality of event is different from timing. > > You can time a marriage i.e. from worksheet. Say you see that a > chart has problems but still there are no laws fitting for a No > Marriage scenario. Then in that case marriage will take place. So > that is timing of event. So if someone asks u. .when will I get > married you can use the worksheet to time it maybe in the weakest > significator. > > Now quality of marriage is differnt issue. Problems may start to > creep in when planets with more points come up and about and when LoD > or LoE or planets in House D or E come then such things will get > enhanced and it MAY break if such things are seen. That is also > timing of an event. > > Similarly for Job, see the nature of person, his intellegence, > capability first, see his lagna points, and also see where lagna lord > is, 6th lord is.. if say lagna lord is in 12th then status of Karak > of A for job is weakened. Such things show us something. At the > same time see if Moon is with Rahu then it can show something about > natore of the person .. see lagna lord in relation to say 9th lord or > 11th lord for boss or friends if they are in 5:9 then its nice person > is friendly can get along if in 6:8 then it can show some issues... > now at the same time say lagna points are over 40 then person can be > very adamenet or sensitive and may break or leave job etc etc.... > > So we need to see all things together. Think over this. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks for your reply. > > > > I have one more query. It is dealing with quality of events. > > > > Now the lessons state that the quality of the event and timing of > the > > event are two different things and should not be mixed together. > > > > We also find that when the event takes place in the significator > > having lowest points the results are bad. > > > > So, can we apply this rule that when the karaka is spoilt and their > > are other indications too the the results will be spoilt then we > can > > use the lowest significator to time events. > > > > In this case, we shall be using the quality of the event to time > the > > event but that may be the correct thing to do. > > > > Will this be the appropriate thing to do? > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > > > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and > also > > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > > status. > > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing > status > > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I > agree > > > with your findings. > > > > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > > > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > > of > > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > > loosing > > > status. > > > > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So > overall > > I > > > feel that it does might not give results. > > > > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if > Moon > > > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > > > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > > the > > > sector. > > > > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be > second > > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen > in > > > 1st sector itself ? > > > > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let > me > > > know > > > > if there are mistakes. > > > > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > > good. > > > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be > head > > > > strong). > > > > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > > placed > > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > > been > > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall > start. > > > > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that > the > > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > > with > > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I > am > > > not > > > > sure here! > > > > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence > it > > is > > > > eager to give results. > > > > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > > causing > > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last > sector. > > > At > > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > > IS > > > > LOD > > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw > with > > > > Shani > > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > > be > > > > more > > > > > confident with more practice. > > > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of > the > > > > chart > > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > > to > > > > give > > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the > same > > > time > > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it > means > > > > there > > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > > happen > > > > in > > > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in > mind. > > > > Thats > > > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > Batura " > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is > used > > > > only > > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha > the > > > > event > > > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > > not > > > > the > > > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > > if > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Dear Ash and Manu, Can you have a look at my career also in my chart.I worked for few years in my recent past like oct'1997 to Sept'2002.Now,Iam doing MBA and am expecting to finish it by either April'2006 or December'2005.Could you have a look at it as after my graduation,it's not only job but also my H1 needs to be processed. I really appreciate you for my chart analysis regarding marriage. Thanks Hemaashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Krushnaji, Manu and Hema,Manu and Hema, your previous mail I shall answer in the morning when I feel more fresh.Here is my understanding.1) 5:9 is nav pancham. Nakshatras in 5:9 houses are same. If you see from House ABCDE then if you observe keenly House B and C are always in nav pancham.2) 3:11 are in upchaya which is good.3) 2:12 means disharmony. 4) 6:8 means disputes5) 1:7 means 1 and 7th houses are always enemies. So in this case its more a fight for domination. Natural samdharmi's when in 1:7 position cease to become Samdharmis. So for example Venus and Saturn are in opposite houses then they will not be natural samdhamris as they become like functional enemies. Similarly for Moon and Mars and Moon and Sun.6) Same house : Here they becomes Samdharmis. if the distance between the 2 planets is less than 15 degrees then consider them as 4:10 and if greater than 15 degrees then consider it as 2:127) 4:10 is boss / subordinate relation or opposition but with respect.About allocating points I shall leave that to Krushnaji. Cheers !!!Ash , "Manu Batura" <manubatura> wrote:> Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what > Ash suggested.> > I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 relation. > The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only.> > According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken as > 0. I am not very sure though.> > Regards,> Manu> > , mba queen > <mba_queen> wrote:> > > > Dear Ash and Manu,> > > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of > you for analyzing my chart.> > > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's > house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how can > we calculate points.> > > > Thanks> > Hema> > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > Dear Krushnaji and Manu,> > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and also > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > status. > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing status > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I agree > > with your findings.> > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results.> > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > of > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > loosing > > status.> > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So overall > I > > feel that it does might not give results.> > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if Moon > > can give results for timing of events for marriage.> > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > the > > sector.> > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be second > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen in > > 1st sector itself ?> > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ?> > > > Thanking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > > > > > , "Manu Batura" > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > Hi Ash,> > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let me > > know > > > if there are mistakes.> > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc.> > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9.> > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9.> > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9!> > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good.> > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > good.> > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be head > > > strong).> > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > placed > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa.> > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi.> > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay.> > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > been > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall start.> > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that the > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > with > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either.> > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I am > > not > > > sure here!> > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence it > is > > > eager to give results.> > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007.> > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "ashsam73" > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it.> > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > causing > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last sector. > > At > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > IS > > > LOD > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV.> > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw with > > > Shani > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > be > > > more > > > > confident with more practice.> > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of the > > > chart > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector.> > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > to > > > give > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the same > > time > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it means > > > there > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > happen > > > in > > > > the first sector only.> > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in mind. > > > Thats > > > > been my experience this far.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manu Batura" > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > Thanks Ash,> > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is used > > > only > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator.> > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha the > > > event > > > > > happens by the rules.> > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > not > > > the > > > > > significator?> > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > if > > I > > > > can > > > > > figure out the period.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear.> > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then> > > > > > that can also cause further delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more> > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse.> > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in> > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many> > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that> > > > > > can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study> > > > > > each status carefully.> > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will> > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a> > > > > > feeler on such things.> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing> > > > > > > planets.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can> > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to> > > > > > > Saturn?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash> > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0> > > > > > > > deg.> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > How 2 times.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo> > > > > > > ...............> > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > "Manu Batura" > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut> > > > > > > 0> > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in> > > > > > > rush I> > > > > > > > > made mistake.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for> > > > > > > full> > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the> > > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > , "Manu> > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts> > > > > > > cleared> > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when> > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be> > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about> > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > later.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some> > > > > > > > > observations> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in> > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay> > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in> > > > > > > Lesson> > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house> > > > > > > malefically> > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't> > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Dear Ash and Manu, Also,I have one more doubt on marriage.Most of the guru's who has seen my horoscope,they told that I may go for inter-caste.Could you pls look into that part of my marriage also. Thanks Hema mba queen <mba_queen wrote: Dear Ash and Manu, Can you have a look at my career also in my chart.I worked for few years in my recent past like oct'1997 to Sept'2002.Now,Iam doing MBA and am expecting to finish it by either April'2006 or December'2005.Could you have a look at it as after my graduation,it's not only job but also my H1 needs to be processed. I really appreciate you for my chart analysis regarding marriage. Thanks Hemaashsam73 <ashsam73 wrote: Dear Krushnaji, Manu and Hema,Manu and Hema, your previous mail I shall answer in the morning when I feel more fresh.Here is my understanding.1) 5:9 is nav pancham. Nakshatras in 5:9 houses are same. If you see from House ABCDE then if you observe keenly House B and C are always in nav pancham.2) 3:11 are in upchaya which is good.3) 2:12 means disharmony. 4) 6:8 means disputes5) 1:7 means 1 and 7th houses are always enemies. So in this case its more a fight for domination. Natural samdharmi's when in 1:7 position cease to become Samdharmis. So for example Venus and Saturn are in opposite houses then they will not be natural samdhamris as they become like functional enemies. Similarly for Moon and Mars and Moon and Sun.6) Same house : Here they becomes Samdharmis. if the distance between the 2 planets is less than 15 degrees then consider them as 4:10 and if greater than 15 degrees then consider it as 2:127) 4:10 is boss / subordinate relation or opposition but with respect.About allocating points I shall leave that to Krushnaji. Cheers !!!Ash , "Manu Batura" <manubatura> wrote:> Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what > Ash suggested.> > I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 relation. > The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only.> > According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken as > 0. I am not very sure though.> > Regards,> Manu> > , mba queen > <mba_queen> wrote:> > > > Dear Ash and Manu,> > > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of > you for analyzing my chart.> > > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's > house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how can > we calculate points.> > > > Thanks> > Hema> > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > Dear Krushnaji and Manu,> > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and also > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > status. > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing status > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I agree > > with your findings.> > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results.> > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > of > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > loosing > > status.> > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So overall > I > > feel that it does might not give results.> > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if Moon > > can give results for timing of events for marriage.> > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > the > > sector.> > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be second > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen in > > 1st sector itself ?> > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ?> > > > Thanking you,> > Cheers !!!> > Ash> > > > > > > > , "Manu Batura" > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > Hi Ash,> > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let me > > know > > > if there are mistakes.> > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc.> > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9.> > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9.> > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9!> > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good.> > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > good.> > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be head > > > strong).> > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > placed > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa.> > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi.> > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay.> > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > been > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall start.> > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that the > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > with > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either.> > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I am > > not > > > sure here!> > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence it > is > > > eager to give results.> > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007.> > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "ashsam73" > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > Dear Manu,> > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it.> > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > causing > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last sector. > > At > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > IS > > > LOD > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV.> > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw with > > > Shani > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > be > > > more > > > > confident with more practice.> > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of the > > > chart > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector.> > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > to > > > give > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the same > > time > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it means > > > there > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > happen > > > in > > > > the first sector only.> > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in mind. > > > Thats > > > > been my experience this far.> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manu Batura" > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > Thanks Ash,> > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is used > > > only > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator.> > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha the > > > event > > > > > happens by the rules.> > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > not > > > the > > > > > significator?> > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > if > > I > > > > can > > > > > figure out the period.> > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear.> > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then> > > > > > that can also cause further delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more> > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse.> > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in> > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many> > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that> > > > > > can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study> > > > > > each status carefully.> > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will> > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a> > > > > > feeler on such things.> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing> > > > > > > planets.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can> > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to> > > > > > > Saturn?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash> > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0> > > > > > > > deg.> > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > How 2 times.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo> > > > > > > ...............> > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > "Manu Batura" > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut> > > > > > > 0> > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in> > > > > > > rush I> > > > > > > > > made mistake.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for> > > > > > > full> > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the> > > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > , "Manu> > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts> > > > > > > cleared> > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when> > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be> > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about> > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > later.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some> > > > > > > > > observations> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in> > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay> > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in> > > > > > > Lesson> > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house> > > > > > > malefically> > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't> > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Hello Hema, I wish I could tell you more. My current knowledge is very limited. I have been learning this system, but with many breaks due to work. I would encourage you to read the lessons in detail and understand them 1 by 1. Don't try to jump ahead. Everything will get mixed up. If you have any doubts, you can always ask on the list. Ash has always responded to my queries. Others are also very helpful. Some important things that you really need to understand and practice are Worksheet calculation and Samdharmi concept. Start from there and slowly move forward. All the Best. Regards, Manu , mba queen <mba_queen> wrote: > > Dear Ash and Manu, > > Also,I have one more doubt on marriage.Most of the guru's who has seen my horoscope,they told that I may go for inter-caste.Could you pls look into that part of my marriage also. > > Thanks > Hema > > > mba queen <mba_queen> wrote: > Dear Ash and Manu, > > Can you have a look at my career also in my chart.I worked for few years in my recent past like oct'1997 to Sept'2002.Now,Iam doing MBA and am expecting to finish it by either April'2006 or December'2005.Could you have a look at it as after my graduation,it's not only job but also my H1 needs to be processed. > > I really appreciate you for my chart analysis regarding marriage. > Thanks > Hema > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, Manu and Hema, > > Manu and Hema, your previous mail I shall answer in the morning when > I feel more fresh. > > Here is my understanding. > > 1) 5:9 is nav pancham. Nakshatras in 5:9 houses are same. If you > see from House ABCDE then if you observe keenly House B and C are > always in nav pancham. > > 2) 3:11 are in upchaya which is good. > > 3) 2:12 means disharmony. > > 4) 6:8 means disputes > > 5) 1:7 means 1 and 7th houses are always enemies. So in this case > its more a fight for domination. Natural samdharmi's when in 1:7 > position cease to become Samdharmis. So for example Venus and Saturn > are in opposite houses then they will not be natural samdhamris as > they become like functional enemies. Similarly for Moon and Mars and > Moon and Sun. > > 6) Same house : Here they becomes Samdharmis. if the distance > between the 2 planets is less than 15 degrees then consider them as > 4:10 and if greater than 15 degrees then consider it as 2:12 > > 7) 4:10 is boss / subordinate relation or opposition but with respect. > > About allocating points I shall leave that to Krushnaji. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what > > Ash suggested. > > > > I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 > relation. > > The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only. > > > > According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken > as > > 0. I am not very sure though. > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > , mba queen > > <mba_queen> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Manu, > > > > > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of > > you for analyzing my chart. > > > > > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's > > house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how > can > > we calculate points. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hema > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > > > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and > also > > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > > status. > > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing > status > > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I > agree > > > with your findings. > > > > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > > > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > > of > > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > > loosing > > > status. > > > > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So > overall > > I > > > feel that it does might not give results. > > > > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if > Moon > > > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > > > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > > the > > > sector. > > > > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be > second > > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen > in > > > 1st sector itself ? > > > > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let > me > > > know > > > > if there are mistakes. > > > > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > > good. > > > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be > head > > > > strong). > > > > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > > placed > > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > > been > > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall > start. > > > > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that > the > > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > > with > > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I > am > > > not > > > > sure here! > > > > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence > it > > is > > > > eager to give results. > > > > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > > causing > > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last > sector. > > > At > > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > > IS > > > > LOD > > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw > with > > > > Shani > > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > > be > > > > more > > > > > confident with more practice. > > > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of > the > > > > chart > > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > > to > > > > give > > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the > same > > > time > > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it > means > > > > there > > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > > happen > > > > in > > > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in > mind. > > > > Thats > > > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > Batura " > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is > used > > > > only > > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha > the > > > > event > > > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > > not > > > > the > > > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > > if > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 I think it is true Hema. Ve is in association of Ma and also have Sa in the 10th house from it. The marriage may be intercast, but it shall not be a love-marriage. Regards, Manu , mba queen <mba_queen> wrote: > > Dear Ash and Manu, > > Also,I have one more doubt on marriage.Most of the guru's who has seen my horoscope,they told that I may go for inter-caste.Could you pls look into that part of my marriage also. > > Thanks > Hema > > > mba queen <mba_queen> wrote: > Dear Ash and Manu, > > Can you have a look at my career also in my chart.I worked for few years in my recent past like oct'1997 to Sept'2002.Now,Iam doing MBA and am expecting to finish it by either April'2006 or December'2005.Could you have a look at it as after my graduation,it's not only job but also my H1 needs to be processed. > > I really appreciate you for my chart analysis regarding marriage. > Thanks > Hema > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, Manu and Hema, > > Manu and Hema, your previous mail I shall answer in the morning when > I feel more fresh. > > Here is my understanding. > > 1) 5:9 is nav pancham. Nakshatras in 5:9 houses are same. If you > see from House ABCDE then if you observe keenly House B and C are > always in nav pancham. > > 2) 3:11 are in upchaya which is good. > > 3) 2:12 means disharmony. > > 4) 6:8 means disputes > > 5) 1:7 means 1 and 7th houses are always enemies. So in this case > its more a fight for domination. Natural samdharmi's when in 1:7 > position cease to become Samdharmis. So for example Venus and Saturn > are in opposite houses then they will not be natural samdhamris as > they become like functional enemies. Similarly for Moon and Mars and > Moon and Sun. > > 6) Same house : Here they becomes Samdharmis. if the distance > between the 2 planets is less than 15 degrees then consider them as > 4:10 and if greater than 15 degrees then consider it as 2:12 > > 7) 4:10 is boss / subordinate relation or opposition but with respect. > > About allocating points I shall leave that to Krushnaji. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what > > Ash suggested. > > > > I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 > relation. > > The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only. > > > > According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken > as > > 0. I am not very sure though. > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > , mba queen > > <mba_queen> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Manu, > > > > > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of > > you for analyzing my chart. > > > > > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's > > house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how > can > > we calculate points. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hema > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > > > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and > also > > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > > status. > > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing > status > > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I > agree > > > with your findings. > > > > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > > > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > > of > > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > > loosing > > > status. > > > > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So > overall > > I > > > feel that it does might not give results. > > > > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if > Moon > > > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > > > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > > the > > > sector. > > > > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be > second > > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen > in > > > 1st sector itself ? > > > > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let > me > > > know > > > > if there are mistakes. > > > > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > > good. > > > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be > head > > > > strong). > > > > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > > placed > > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > > been > > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall > start. > > > > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that > the > > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > > with > > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I > am > > > not > > > > sure here! > > > > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence > it > > is > > > > eager to give results. > > > > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > > causing > > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last > sector. > > > At > > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > > IS > > > > LOD > > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw > with > > > > Shani > > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > > be > > > > more > > > > > confident with more practice. > > > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of > the > > > > chart > > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > > to > > > > give > > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the > same > > > time > > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it > means > > > > there > > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > > happen > > > > in > > > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in > mind. > > > > Thats > > > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > Batura " > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is > used > > > > only > > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha > the > > > > event > > > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > > not > > > > the > > > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > > if > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Hello Hema, Ash, I shall try to answer Hema's queries. The house of travel is hs12. Its karaktwa Me is has 4 points and is placed in 11 house. It has neutral sight of Jupiter. Your current antra is going to switch to Su now. Followed by mo and then ma. Su and Ma have maximum strength points for hs12. (19). Mo (13) is samdharmi to Ma and hence it can also give results of the event. For onsite assignment, hs10, hs11 should also trigger since it represents a change of occupation in a sense and it also may mean more income. For hs10, su is Lord of 12th from B, while mo is placed in D and hence eager to give results. Ma aspects house A and hence cannot provide results. For hs11, Mo is LoD here and haveing 19 strength points, ma gets 8 points and hence may not provide results. Hence, the H1 processing and foreign travel should happen in Mo antra between 6/2005 - 11/2005 (sector 1) after your MBA. I chose sector 1 since there is no delay due to saturn and mo is in sign of mercury. There is one more point, since 12th lord from 10th (su) and 12th lord from 11th (me) are placed in 10th and 11th respectively, you may not be very satisfied from onsite income and job position however. Thanks & Regards, Manu , mba queen <mba_queen> wrote: > Dear Ash and Manu, > > Can you have a look at my career also in my chart.I worked for few years in my recent past like oct'1997 to Sept'2002.Now,Iam doing MBA and am expecting to finish it by either April'2006 or December'2005.Could you have a look at it as after my graduation,it's not only job but also my H1 needs to be processed. > > I really appreciate you for my chart analysis regarding marriage. > Thanks > Hema > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Krushnaji, Manu and Hema, > > Manu and Hema, your previous mail I shall answer in the morning when > I feel more fresh. > > Here is my understanding. > > 1) 5:9 is nav pancham. Nakshatras in 5:9 houses are same. If you > see from House ABCDE then if you observe keenly House B and C are > always in nav pancham. > > 2) 3:11 are in upchaya which is good. > > 3) 2:12 means disharmony. > > 4) 6:8 means disputes > > 5) 1:7 means 1 and 7th houses are always enemies. So in this case > its more a fight for domination. Natural samdharmi's when in 1:7 > position cease to become Samdharmis. So for example Venus and Saturn > are in opposite houses then they will not be natural samdhamris as > they become like functional enemies. Similarly for Moon and Mars and > Moon and Sun. > > 6) Same house : Here they becomes Samdharmis. if the distance > between the 2 planets is less than 15 degrees then consider them as > 4:10 and if greater than 15 degrees then consider it as 2:12 > > 7) 4:10 is boss / subordinate relation or opposition but with respect. > > About allocating points I shall leave that to Krushnaji. > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what > > Ash suggested. > > > > I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 > relation. > > The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only. > > > > According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken > as > > 0. I am not very sure though. > > > > Regards, > > Manu > > > > , mba queen > > <mba_queen> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ash and Manu, > > > > > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of > > you for analyzing my chart. > > > > > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's > > house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how > can > > we calculate points. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hema > > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote: > > > Dear Krushnaji and Manu, > > > > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and > also > > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > > status. > > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing > status > > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I > agree > > > with your findings. > > > > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results. > > > > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > > of > > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > > loosing > > > status. > > > > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So > overall > > I > > > feel that it does might not give results. > > > > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if > Moon > > > can give results for timing of events for marriage. > > > > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > > the > > > sector. > > > > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be > second > > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen > in > > > 1st sector itself ? > > > > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ? > > > > > > Thanking you, > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > Hi Ash, > > > > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let > me > > > know > > > > if there are mistakes. > > > > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc. > > > > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9. > > > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9. > > > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9! > > > > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good. > > > > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > > good. > > > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be > head > > > > strong). > > > > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > > placed > > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa. > > > > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi. > > > > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay. > > > > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > > been > > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall > start. > > > > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that > the > > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > > with > > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either. > > > > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I > am > > > not > > > > sure here! > > > > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence > it > > is > > > > eager to give results. > > > > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007. > > > > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " ashsam73 " > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it. > > > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > > causing > > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last > sector. > > > At > > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > > IS > > > > LOD > > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV. > > > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw > with > > > > Shani > > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > > be > > > > more > > > > > confident with more practice. > > > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of > the > > > > chart > > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector. > > > > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > > to > > > > give > > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the > same > > > time > > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it > means > > > > there > > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > > happen > > > > in > > > > > the first sector only. > > > > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in > mind. > > > > Thats > > > > > been my experience this far. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > Batura " > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is > used > > > > only > > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator. > > > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha > the > > > > event > > > > > > happens by the rules. > > > > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > > not > > > > the > > > > > > significator? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > > if > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > figure out the period. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear. > > > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then > > > > > > > that can also cause further delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more > > > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in > > > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many > > > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that > > > > > > > can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study > > > > > > > each status carefully. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will > > > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a > > > > > > > feeler on such things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing > > > > > > > > planets. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can > > > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to > > > > > > > > Saturn? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash > > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0 > > > > > > > > > deg. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > How 2 times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo > > > > > > > > ............... > > > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " Manu Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut > > > > > > > > 0 > > > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in > > > > > > > > rush I > > > > > > > > > > made mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the > > > > > > > > chart > > > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts > > > > > > > > cleared > > > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when > > > > > > > > Sa > > > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > > later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > " ashsam73 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some > > > > > > > > > > observations > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in > > > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay > > > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in > > > > > > > > Lesson > > > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house > > > > > > > > malefically > > > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > > > > > , " Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > Batura " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Dear Manu, Thanks for taking time in analysing my chart regarding my career and marriage. You mentioned about visa processing between 6/2005 - 11/2005,but I can complete my MBA by December'05,not before that that.Also,one more I want to add is I am doing MBA here in US on F1 visa.So,I really not sure whether this belongs to house of travel or not.After MBA,I need to get job and within 1yr of OPT,I need to get my H1 done. Thanks for analysing regarding my marriage also. RegardsManu Batura <manubatura wrote: Hello Hema, Ash,I shall try to answer Hema's queries. The house of travel is hs12. Its karaktwa Me is has 4 points and is placed in 11 house. It has neutral sight of Jupiter.Your current antra is going to switch to Su now. Followed by mo and then ma.Su and Ma have maximum strength points for hs12. (19).Mo (13) is samdharmi to Ma and hence it can also give results of the event.For onsite assignment, hs10, hs11 should also trigger since it represents a change of occupation in a sense and it also may mean more income.For hs10, su is Lord of 12th from B, while mo is placed in D and hence eager to give results. Ma aspects house A and hence cannot provide results.For hs11, Mo is LoD here and haveing 19 strength points, ma gets 8 points and hence may not provide results.Hence, the H1 processing and foreign travel should happen in Mo antra between 6/2005 - 11/2005 (sector 1) after your MBA.I chose sector 1 since there is no delay due to saturn and mo is in sign of mercury.There is one more point, since 12th lord from 10th (su) and 12th lord from 11th (me) are placed in 10th and 11th respectively, you may not be very satisfied from onsite income and job position however.Thanks & Regards,Manu , mba queen <mba_queen> wrote:> Dear Ash and Manu,> > Can you have a look at my career also in my chart.I worked for few years in my recent past like oct'1997 to Sept'2002.Now,Iam doing MBA and am expecting to finish it by either April'2006 or December'2005.Could you have a look at it as after my graduation,it's not only job but also my H1 needs to be processed.> > I really appreciate you for my chart analysis regarding marriage.> Thanks> Hema> > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> Dear Krushnaji, Manu and Hema,> > Manu and Hema, your previous mail I shall answer in the morning when > I feel more fresh.> > Here is my understanding.> > 1) 5:9 is nav pancham. Nakshatras in 5:9 houses are same. If you > see from House ABCDE then if you observe keenly House B and C are > always in nav pancham.> > 2) 3:11 are in upchaya which is good.> > 3) 2:12 means disharmony. > > 4) 6:8 means disputes> > 5) 1:7 means 1 and 7th houses are always enemies. So in this case > its more a fight for domination. Natural samdharmi's when in 1:7 > position cease to become Samdharmis. So for example Venus and Saturn > are in opposite houses then they will not be natural samdhamris as > they become like functional enemies. Similarly for Moon and Mars and > Moon and Sun.> > 6) Same house : Here they becomes Samdharmis. if the distance > between the 2 planets is less than 15 degrees then consider them as > 4:10 and if greater than 15 degrees then consider it as 2:12> > 7) 4:10 is boss / subordinate relation or opposition but with respect.> > About allocating points I shall leave that to Krushnaji. > > Cheers !!!> Ash> > , "Manu Batura" > <manubatura> wrote:> > Good question Hema. I also had this doubt and I don't remember what > > Ash suggested.> > > > I think a similar question applies if they are in 1:7, 2:12 > relation. > > The lessons state the points for 5:9, 3:11, 4:10 and 6:8 only.> > > > According to me, 2:12 can be taken as 5, 1:1 and 1:7 can be taken > as > > 0. I am not very sure though.> > > > Regards,> > Manu> > > > , mba queen > > <mba_queen> wrote:> > > > > > Dear Ash and Manu,> > > > > > Before asking you something,I would like to say thanks to both of > > you for analyzing my chart.> > > > > > I got one question(not related to my chart).If the Lord of sun's > > house and the lord of 7th from sun's house are in same house,how > can > > we calculate points.> > > > > > Thanks> > > Hema> > > > > > ashsam73 <ashsam73> wrote:> > > Dear Krushnaji and Manu,> > > > > > Yes, I also feel the same and agree with all your findings. > > > > > > Mars is LoE and its in 11th from 12th house so in upchaya and > also > > > its in 6th from 5th house. So again 5th and 12th house gain > > status. > > > Yes its with Venus who is 6th lord and 11th lord and loosing > status > > > for 11th house. About 2nd sector is also what I think. So I > agree > > > with your findings.> > > > > > Now I would like to confirm IF Moon will not give results.> > > > > > Moon its with 12 points so it can go either way. Studying Status > > of > > > Moon, Moon is in Krishna Pax and in 12th from 8th. So again > > loosing > > > status.> > > > > > Now Moon is SD to Karak Shani at the same time its also SD to > > > Mercury. Moon is natural samdharmi to Mars who is LoE. So > overall > > I > > > feel that it does might not give results.> > > > > > Krushnaji when you get a chance can you guide us regarding if > Moon > > > can give results for timing of events for marriage.> > > > > > I hope Krushnaji can confirm our findings. Also can you confirm > > the > > > sector.> > > > > > Here Mars is LoE and there is full delay. So delay will be > second > > > sector. Here lagna and 3rd are in 5:9 so will the event happen > in > > > 1st sector itself ?> > > > > > If in Moon the event will be in last sector. Is that proper ?> > > > > > Thanking you,> > > Cheers !!!> > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manu Batura" > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > Hi Ash,> > > > > > > > I tried to see Hema's chart again wrt to marriage. Please let > me > > > know > > > > if there are mistakes.> > > > > > > > I rectified by -5 mins to get sag asc.> > > > > > > > First of all, lord of asc (ju) and lord of 7th (me) are in 5:9.> > > > lord of mo (me) and lord of 7th from mo (ju) are again in 5:9.> > > > Lord of su (me) and lord of 7th from su (ju) are again in 5:9!> > > > > > > > So, marriage points are 90. That is good.> > > > > > > > Ve is in nakst of Hasta. Diff from sun is 7.2 degrees. That is > > good.> > > > SAV of hs1 is 32. (So, as Ash analysed, the native might be > head > > > > strong).> > > > > > > > For B as hs7, Sa is LoA in rasi as well as navamsa. It is also > > > placed > > > > with LoC (ve) in navamsa.> > > > > > > > And as Ash pointed out, Mo is placed with Sa in hs7 in rasi.> > > > > > > > So, I am assuming full delay.> > > > > > > > Full delay ended on 7/14/2002 when native was 27.8 yrs. She has > > > been > > > > in me/ve since then which ends on 8/2/2004 when me/su shall > start.> > > > > > > > Looking at the strength sheet, it seems that it was good that > the > > > > native was not marriage in ve antra since it is lord of 6th. su > > > with > > > > low points (10) may not be able to give results either.> > > > > > > > The next antra is mo. Mo has only 12 points and is afflicted by > > > > saturn in 7th. Hence that too may not give results. Actually I > am > > > not > > > > sure here!> > > > > > > > Anyways, next antra is ma. Ma has 13 points and is LoE. Hence > it > > is > > > > eager to give results.> > > > > > > > So, marriage may happen is Ma antra from 11/8/2006 to 11/5/2007.> > > > > > > > It may happen in second sector since Ju has 5th sight on Sa.> > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , "ashsam73" > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > For finding proper sector I am still practicing it.> > > > > I will share with you what I have found. If there is a delay > > > > causing > > > > > planet say it can be Venus or Guru or Sa then its last > sector. > > > At > > > > > the same time there is a law that IF THE DELAY CAUSING PLANET > > IS > > > > LOD > > > > > OR LOE then it will give it in first sector. Now this can be > > > > > modified buy Zeroes in SAV.> > > > > We also need to see if say the strong significator is saw > with > > > > Shani > > > > > etc. So I am still practicing such things and hopefully will > > be > > > > more > > > > > confident with more practice.> > > > > I think here again u need to get an understanding first of > the > > > > chart > > > > > and then you can narrow to proper sector.> > > > > > > > > > Say delay causing planets antra is running and so it will try > > to > > > > give > > > > > in 1st sector at the same time there is 1 zero and at the > same > > > time > > > > > say for marriage there lagna and 9th lords are in 5:9 it > means > > > > there > > > > > is blessing of father or guru so in that case the event MAY > > > happen > > > > in > > > > > the first sector only.> > > > > > > > > > So such things and again overall chart should be kept in > mind. > > > > Thats > > > > > been my experience this far.> > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Manu > Batura" > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > Thanks Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > Also, will it be correct to say that sector selection is > used > > > > only > > > > > > when Sa itself becomes the significator.> > > > > > Then, we can determine in which sector of its antar-dasha > the > > > > event > > > > > > happens by the rules.> > > > > > > > > > > > However, what should we do when sa causes full delay but is > > not > > > > the > > > > > > significator?> > > > > > > > > > > > Ash, I will try to analyse Hema's chart this evening to see > > if > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > figure out the period.> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Ash Sam > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > Sa is delay causing planet and that is clear.> > > > > > > When Ju malefically aspects 7th house or its lord then> > > > > > > that can also cause further delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is also a law when Guru is in lagna with more> > > > > > > points it can cause seperation or divorse.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In such a case it can cause further delay also in> > > > > > > selecting the proper sector. It will cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zeores in SAV also cause delay and so does so many> > > > > > > other things for example if venus is spoilt then that> > > > > > > can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So we should keep all these things in mind. Study> > > > > > > each status carefully.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru in libra can also cause delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need to study whole chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For that we need to solve so many charts and it will> > > > > > > come with experience and you will start to get a> > > > > > > feeler on such things.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few more doubts about delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lessons say that Ju and Sa are delay causing> > > > > > > > planets.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it that Sa causes delay and Ju checks it or can> > > > > > > > Jupiter can also > > > > > > > > cause full delay when there is no delay due to> > > > > > > > Saturn?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this case how do we measure the delay?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In , Ash> > > > > > > > Sam > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > In that case I would think when it first reaches 0> > > > > > > > > deg.> > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Manu Batura <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I was refering to the retrogression of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > How 2 times.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is at 16 deg into Cancer so in 2.5 year it> > > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > > hit 16 deg in > > > > > > > > > > Leo > > > > > > > > > > > and 2.5 year after that into Virgo> > > > > > > > ...............> > > > > > > > > > to 0 deg Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So the cycle starts from 16 deg Cancer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So only once. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it will be clear now.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > > "Manu Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot. However, sometimes Sa will cut> > > > > > > > 0> > > > > > > > > > degrees twice. > > > > > > > > > > > Should > > > > > > > > > > > > we take the first cut or the second?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > > "ashsam73" > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry ignore my previous email too.. in> > > > > > > > rush I> > > > > > > > > > made mistake.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Say Sa is 16 degrees in Cancer. So for> > > > > > > > full> > > > > > > > > > delay caused by > > > > > > > > > > > Shani > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be till Shani transits around the> > > > > > > > chart> > > > > > > > > > and comes to 0 deg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > > , "Manu> > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read CAN as LIB in previous mail.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ash,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really need to get my concepts> > > > > > > > cleared> > > > > > > > > > about delay before > > > > > > > > > > > sa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > more delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a few doubts:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us say that a native was born when> > > > > > > > Sa> > > > > > > > > > was in LIB. Now > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > full delay,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should we consider then delay to be> > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > the case when Sa > > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CAN -> PIS (0 degrees)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or should we consider it to be from> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > case when LIB -> > > > > > > > > > > LIB > > > > > > > > > > > > > (full > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cycle) -> PIS (0 degrees).> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have many many more doubts about> > > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > I will ask them > > > > > > > > > > > later.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks & Regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manu> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > "ashsam73"> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <ashsam73> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manu,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome back to the list.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Sagittarius lagna here are some> > > > > > > > > > observations> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sa is in 7th, House B, It is LoA and> > > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > conjoins Venus > > > > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > navamsa so full delay. Guru is in> > > > > > > > > > Aquarius sign of delay > > > > > > > > > > > > > casuing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planet Shani so he cant check delay> > > > > > > > > > caused by Sa. So > > > > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please read point 5 in lesson in> > > > > > > > Lesson> > > > > > > > > > 24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guru also aspects 7th house> > > > > > > > malefically> > > > > > > > > > and this also > > > > > > > > > > > causes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > further > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > delay. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers !!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ash> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > > > > > > > > , "Manu > > > > > > > > > > > > Batura" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <manubatura> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, with asc in Sag too I can't> > > > > > > > find> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Dear Guruji, I am having problems in personal family life and since I am having 7 years shani, every saturday I am going to temple and doing pradikshna 21 times. Nothing is supportive or helping me out. Can you please analyse my chart and let me know when will I be out of the mental stress. My details Name : Sekhar G. Date of Birth : 22/Feb/1978 Birth Time : 9:30PM Birth Place : Bangalore Thanks & Regards, Sekhar G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2009 Report Share Posted September 2, 2009 Shekhar ji, your birth chart shows the 6th cusp sub is ketu and ketu is posited in the Nakshatra lord ,of which is Saturn and it signifies the 6th and 11th cusp only.It means your tour to abroad is certain and you are sure to have promotion there after 30.05.2012.with good wishes, Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Sekhar <sekhar531173 wrote: Sekhar <sekhar531173 please analyse my chart Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 12:28 PM Dear Guruji, I am having problems in personal family life and since I am having 7 years shani, every saturday I am going to temple and doing pradikshna 21 times. Nothing is supportive or helping me out. Can you please analyse my chart and let me know when will I be out of the mental stress. My details Name : Sekhar G. Date of Birth : 22/Feb/1978 Birth Time : 9:30PM Birth Place : Bangalore Thanks & Regards, Sekhar G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Dear Guruji, My wife's is having ardhastam sani and both of our life is going in a tight rope. Please analyse chart let me know how the family life will be and when she will get a job? Name : Neelima G Date of Birth : 13/Sep/1987 Birth Time : 3:30PM Birth Place : Kakinada Thanks & Regards, Sekhar G ________________________________ Dhirendra Nath Misra <dhirendranathmisra Wednesday, September 2, 2009 7:56:38 PM Re: please analyse my chart Shekhar ji, your birth chart shows the 6th cusp sub is ketu and ketu is posited in the Nakshatra lord ,of which is Saturn and it signifies the 6th and 11th cusp only.It means your tour to abroad is certain and you are sure to have promotion there after 30.05.2012.with good wishes, Dhirendra Nath Misra --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Sekhar <sekhar531173@ > wrote: Sekhar <sekhar531173@ > please analyse my chart Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 12:28 PM Dear Guruji, I am having problems in personal family life and since I am having 7 years shani, every saturday I am going to temple and doing pradikshna 21 times. Nothing is supportive or helping me out. Can you please analyse my chart and let me know when will I be out of the mental stress. My details Name : Sekhar G. Date of Birth : 22/Feb/1978 Birth Time : 9:30PM Birth Place : Bangalore Thanks & Regards, Sekhar G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2009 Report Share Posted September 5, 2009 Shekar, u were in peak sade-saat till 29/8/09 and will be easing now in simha ur sani had 1 bindhu and total 19 too low to help, now in Kanya has 25 and 4 for sani mother and her circles wud have suffered in health, finances, u in focus, energy levels, and friends, relationships would have been tested badly with misunderstandings continue to light the till oil lamp on saturdays till 1/11/11. prayers to hanuman can help u too 16/5/10 to 15/9/11 can see a lot of relief, progress in many ways, and will be in beter shape, professionally, finincially as well, mother and her circles health will also improve I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non Raman's. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS. /database?method=reportRows & tbl=6 ________________________________ Sekhar <sekhar531173 Wednesday, September 2, 2009 5:58:25 PM please analyse my chart Dear Guruji, I am having problems in personal family life and since I am having 7 years shani, every saturday I am going to temple and doing pradikshna 21 times. Nothing is supportive or helping me out. Can you please analyse my chart and let me know when will I be out of the mental stress. My details Name : Sekhar G. Date of Birth : 22/Feb/1978 Birth Time : 9:30PM Birth Place : Bangalore Thanks & Regards, Sekhar G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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