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Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava. 

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not  venture into advicing some thing of

which you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this  personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Barkot tan <tan_barkot

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

Re: Job

 

 

Chitra ji,

 

without  perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji.  Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "  

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra.  Keep with u.   Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give

to ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

Job

" " <>

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

 

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

as u have pointed out the

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

 

Prashant

 

 

________________________________

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of

which you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Barkot tan <tan_barkot >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

Re: Job

 

 

Chitra ji,

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give

to ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

Job

" " <>

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

 

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Dear Friends,

 

 

 

 

 

It is not an issue, I have written

 

Om Nameh Narayan or Om Nameh Narayana or Om Namoh Narayan or Om Namoh Narayana.

 

 

Friends,  All  are same.  weather one call  Shiri Ram or Shiri Rama.

Nothing happened.

 

Panachalshar Mantra : Nameh Shivay

Ashtakshar Mantra    :  Shiri Krishnam Sharnam Mam .

 

 

Some time, one can  write or mis spell some time. But this is the most common

mantras

One can benefit, if he chant mantra from heart only. No other alternative.

 

 

 

 

 

Barkot, Tan.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:13 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

 

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

 

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

 

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

 

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

 

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

 

 

as u have pointed out the

 

 

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

 

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

 

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

 

 

Prashant

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

 

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

 

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

 

 

its correct rendering is

 

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

 

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

 

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

 

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

 

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

 

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

 

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of

which you do not know.

 

 

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

 

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

 

Re: Job

 

 

 

Chitra ji,

 

 

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

 

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

 

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

 

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

 

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

 

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

 

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

 

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

 

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give

to ur husband.

 

 

 

Barkot, Tan

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

 

Job

 

" " <>

 

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

 

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

 

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

 

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

 

 

Chitra

 

 

 

 

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Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night institutes

are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge. whatever books

that are available cheap in the market also do give full & version of these

traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look at the sales

figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We also see new

breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have cure for

" Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some of

them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done every

one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for such

dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for restricting

knowledge and riches from others.

 

It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures, ancients

advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti " pure

reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in scripters

that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not mean, tantra

is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how it is misused.

 

Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Nama shivaya is panchakshari

Na -ma - shi -va - ya

1    - 2  -  3  - 4  - 5

 

Garuda Panchakshari

kshipa aum swaha

kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

1-     2-    3-     4-     5

 

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

1 -       2   - 3    - 4    - 5 - 6  -  7   - 8

 

shivaashtaakshari

 

Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1     - 2           - 3          -  4    - 5    - 6    - 7   - 8   -

 

Another version

 

hreem Aum  hreem namH shivaaya

hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1     - 2           - 3          -  4    - 5    - 6    - 7   - 8   -

 

Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

Gam Ganapathaye namaH

Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

1     - 2- 3- 4- 5-  6- 7   - 8

 

 

Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

Aum namo vaasudevaaya

Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa-ya

1 -      2 -3 -   4   - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

 

Dwaakshari -

Aum -Na- mo-  Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

1      - 2   - 3  -  4   -  5    6  -  7  -  8  - 9  - 10- 11 - 12

 

when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

hreem  gam   hreem  vashamaanaya swaaha

hreem - gam -  hreem - va-sha-maa-na-ya -swaa-ha

1-          2-        3-         4-  5-   6-    7-   8-   9- 10

 

Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should recite,

do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

1) nakshtra anukoolam

2) rashi anukoolam

3) yoni maitri

4) gana maitri

5) RhriNa anukoolam

6) Kula anukoolam

7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

The subject is very vast.

 

so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.  

 

Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

as u have pointed out the

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of which

you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

Re: Job

 

Chitra ji,

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give to

ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

Job

" " <>

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Barkot,

 

well I just saw Suresh ji's header and replied later I read his post also now in

ur DIFFIDENT REPLY

 

both of us have said a Mantra has a sacred sanctity to it and must be pronounced

by the meter given in the Moola mantra

 

one can't take short cuts or own style, sounds here won't work worse can harm u

and the person using it

 

if u have any doubts on this u get E-PROM's of mantra repeating this sold in all

electrnoic bazars that is heard in most temples

apart from the 3 Mantra I have already given, Siva panchakshari, ashtakshari of

narayana and dwadasakshari of Vasudeva

 

u will also hear Aum sai ram namaha

 

or just Aum itself in cycles

 

Aum Namo Venketwswaraya namaha

 

Aum Raghavandra namaha

 

even the full praye r of raghavendra

 

Ayappa u can get many of them but none will sell ur sound unless u do it urself

which we clearly said is a wrong sound, word

 

pl accept the same and help ppl it is not childs play or to take a position just

for the heck of it

 

I will ask Pt Arjun, Krishna ji also to have a few lines on this

 

 

and Rafel G a foreigner who has also mastered our subject is way ahead on this

 

Prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Barkot tan <tan_barkot

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:43:22 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

 

It is not an issue, I have written

 

Om Nameh Narayan or Om Nameh Narayana or Om Namoh Narayan or Om Namoh Narayana.

 

Friends, All are same. weather one call Shiri Ram or Shiri Rama.

Nothing happened.

 

Panachalshar Mantra : Nameh Shivay

Ashtakshar Mantra : Shiri Krishnam Sharnam Mam .

 

Some time, one can write or mis spell some time. But this is the most common

mantras

One can benefit, if he chant mantra from heart only. No other alternative.

 

Barkot, Tan.

 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:13 AM

 

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

as u have pointed out the

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

 

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

 

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of

which you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

 

Re: Job

 

Chitra ji,

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

 

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

 

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give

to ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

 

Job

 

" " <>

 

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Dear Suresh ji

 

a good content based post, Well being a brahmin too but less on the religious

side we r used to the admin side in our ancesstors though there were some vedic

cholars and yet in admin.

 

but last 3 generations like most of India we have drifted and what little i know

i post as i did now and without hesitation have asked u, arjun ji, Krishna ji,

rafel g also to post their views from what i see of their posts also none of us

r experts esp one on the net but whatever we all know our limitations and come

out openly and share, ask what we can do, but fortunately never tried to do what

is happening like saying it is ok, just the same , chaltha hai kind when we tell

them Mantras are sacrascant and needs a Guru to initate it as well

 

either parents or a family priest

books or hear say will never take u forward a mantra is a vehicle u need a

training time under a qualified person and get ur licence

 

prashant

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:21:47 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night institutes

are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge. whatever books

that are available cheap in the market also do give full & version of these

traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look at the sales

figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We also see new

breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have cure for

" Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some of

them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done every

one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for such

dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for restricting

knowledge and riches from others.

 

It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures, ancients

advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti " pure

reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in scripters

that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not mean, tantra

is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how it is misused.

 

Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Nama shivaya is panchakshari

Na -ma - shi -va - ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

 

Garuda Panchakshari

kshipa aum swaha

kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

1- 2- 3- 4- 5

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

shivaashtaakshari

 

Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

Another version

 

hreem Aum hreem namH shivaaya

hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

Gam Ganapathaye namaH

Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

1 - 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7 - 8

 

Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

Aum namo vaasudevaaya

Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

1 - 2 -3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

Dwaakshari -

Aum -Na- mo- Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10- 11 - 12

 

when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

hreem gam hreem vashamaanaya swaaha

hreem - gam - hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10

 

Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should recite,

do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

1) nakshtra anukoolam

2) rashi anukoolam

3) yoni maitri

4) gana maitri

5) RhriNa anukoolam

6) Kula anukoolam

7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

The subject is very vast.

 

so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.

 

Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

as u have pointed out the

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of which

you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

Re: Job

 

Chitra ji,

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give to

ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

Job

" " <>

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Dear Prashant ji,

 

well said. In todays scenario, one cannot expect  everyone  to study these

scriptures and totaly live according to traditions. It simply is impossible.

 

ANY ONE CAN DO MISTAKES, BUT ONLY A LEARNED ONE ADMITS IT.

 

" TO ERR IS HUMAN " ,   don't remember who said it.

 

However, those who aspire to guide others always keeps an open mind and learn as

much as they can as time, situations permit. No one can learn every thing fully

in this life time.

 

One of my friend who also runs a veda pattasala, claims that it takes 12 years

of study to master one veda and rituals and yet true knowledge depends on the

aspirations of the person. So imagine, what one can learn from a few

books overnight. Today, I saw an advertisement in the local daily offering

postal cource for 3months in all the four vedas and rituals for rs500/- and a

certificate of " Veda Praveshika " . It is good to speard the knowledge and it

would be better if those who learn likewise also remembers their limitations.

Unfortunately, they wont. They would use this limited knowledge brandishing

their certificates and exploit others.

 

Geographicaly speaking, The strength of North India is their Bhakti Marga and

that of South India is Tantra with a few exceptions. Each has its own & merrits

& de-merrits depending on situations and persons.

 

Today every thing has become commercial - astrology, gemology, Vedic Astrology,

Rituals.

 

There is saying -

 

" If the person who is offering food does not care, those who eat it should "

 

As I said, why should I or Prahsant ji or krishana ji or any other Pundit on

this forum bother about what happen to others, or whether, what they are doing

is right or wrong. - sincerely - not bothered at all. But I consider it my

dharma to atleast warn once about what they are doing and what might

happen, having some knowledge in these matters and to show correct way.

 

Some members might get hurt but it is  totaly upto them & others whether they

should accept this and learn much more or not.

 

If there is no difference in pronouncing between " namhe " & " namo " , I think we

have a new rishi to pay our respects.

 

" asya shree namhe narayana mantrasya barkot tom rishiH ----- chandaH, narayano

devatha.... "

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:48:57 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

Dear Suresh ji

 

a good content based post, Well being a brahmin too but less on the religious

side we r used to the admin side in our ancesstors though there were some vedic

cholars and yet in admin.

 

but last 3 generations like most of India we have drifted and what little i know

i post as i did now and without hesitation have asked u, arjun ji, Krishna ji,

rafel g also to post their views from what i see of their posts also none of us

r experts esp one on the net but whatever we all know our limitations and come

out openly and share, ask what we can do, but fortunately never tried to do what

is happening like saying it is ok, just the same , chaltha hai kind when we tell

them Mantras are sacrascant and needs a Guru to initate it as well

 

either parents or a family priest

books or hear say will never take u forward a mantra is a vehicle u need a

training time under a qualified person and get ur licence

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:21:47 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night institutes

are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge. whatever books

that are available cheap in the market also do give full & version of these

traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look at the sales

figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We also see new

breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have cure for

" Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some of

them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done every

one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for such

dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for restricting

knowledge and riches from others.

 

It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures, ancients

advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti " pure

reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in scripters

that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not mean, tantra

is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how it is misused.

 

Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Nama shivaya is panchakshari

Na -ma - shi -va - ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

 

Garuda Panchakshari

kshipa aum swaha

kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

1- 2- 3- 4- 5

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

shivaashtaakshari

 

Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

Another version

 

hreem Aum hreem namH shivaaya

hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

Gam Ganapathaye namaH

Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

1 - 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7 - 8

 

Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

Aum namo vaasudevaaya

Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

1 - 2 -3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

Dwaakshari -

Aum -Na- mo- Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10- 11 - 12

 

when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

hreem gam hreem vashamaanaya swaaha

hreem - gam - hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10

 

Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should recite,

do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

1) nakshtra anukoolam

2) rashi anukoolam

3) yoni maitri

4) gana maitri

5) RhriNa anukoolam

6) Kula anukoolam

7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

The subject is very vast.

 

so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.

 

Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

as u have pointed out the

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of which

you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

Re: Job

 

Chitra ji,

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give to

ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

Job

" " <>

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Suresh Ji.

 

 

Yes Like others, I have not an much knowledge of  all religion or worship

methods.

 

But I have to do this daily. Hindu Dharma or dharam is very wide.

 

To day is Radha Astimi - It comes always 20 days after Janam Astimi.  For Me -

This is the maha mantra

 

" Radhay Radahy  "     Now what u will  say this is panchakshar or ashtakshar.

 

Shiri Brahma ji,  requested to Shiri Vishnu ji, Hay ! Prabhu I want to see ur

LEELA ,  Vishnu ji, told him, go and convert into a mountain there in BARSANA

DHAM, which called BRHAMESHWAR PARVART.

 

 

God Shiv Ji, came there in MAHARAS, on Sharat Poornima.  To participate a dance

function performed by God Krishana Ji,  Got a name  YOGESHVAR.

 

 

After, getting a victory on  Kansa, All were doing enjoy, Shiri Krishna ji, was

crying and loked to GOKUL, UDHAV Ji came, and asked Krishana Ji, why are u

crying?

 

Krishna ji said, MISSING GOKUL.  UDHAV JI Said, UR BRAHM, and ur crying. Gave me

order to go to Gokul, I will tell them some BRAHM Gyanam to all  Gopikas.

 

Krishan ji gave him his, Ratha, his Pitambar, and UDHAV JI reach there, telling

his Brahm Gyanam to all Gopikas.

 

Gopikas gave him a gyanam of  PREMA BHAKTI.  THe song called as BHARAMAR GEET,

 

Udhav  Ji,  learnt a lesson of PREMA BHAKTI. And he left his all proud.

 

Another example of Sudama ji.  Shiri Krishna ji, put his hand on Sudama ji,

Remove all his bad tings from his destiny.

 

I give this pooja to that person for not making a money, but he/she has some

problem. May hope, the person will get some or more relief after praying.

 

I got strange, People Literally asking me,  Maharaj ji, guru ji or pandit ji,

DEEPAK KAISAY JALAY, in pooja. I said, Na bhi jalao to chalega. but sit and do

pooja what ever u do, do ur heart.

 

 

 

We give brain to God, give heart to world, this is the main reason, we get

result very less.

 

Jaat ,  Paat Poochay Na koi, Hari ko bhajay so hari koi hoay.

Ja ki bhavana rahi jasi, tay murat dekhi waisi.   

 

 

The one word  Ram is enough,  Krishana is enough.  On chanting this mantra,one

give u shanti and moksha. One give u a full enjoyment. 

 

 

Some time in writing, one can may be wrong mantra, may be miss spell. but these

are the common mantra. Mostly we know this.

 

Suresh ji,  In english, we write a name  Mohan or Mohana all are same.

 

 

I will be more happy, if one can write,  friend or brother or sister, do this

with ur heart or loyality. Surely u get a relief, so one  get encourage  and may

hope do some worshipor pooja.

 

Or u can write, Barkot, i think u write a miss spell, or please rectify it.  Now

people get confuse, which mantra they can do.

 

 

 

Some times I say a patha of Gopla Sahstrnama or Vishnu Kavach or The Gita Patha

or Hanuman Kavach or Sankat Mochan.

 

 

In fact all mantras are same. Chant any of one. There is a concept of chanting

one mantra.

 

EK SAADHAY SAB SADAHY SAB SAADHAY SAB JAYE.

 

 

 

Barkot, Tan

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009, 4:51 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

 

 

The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night institutes

are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge. whatever books

that are available cheap in the market also do give full & version of these

traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look at the sales

figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We also see new

breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have cure for

" Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

 

 

It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some of

them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

 

 

it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done every

one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for such

dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for restricting

knowledge and riches from others.

 

 

 

It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

 

 

The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

 

 

India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

 

 

It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures, ancients

advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti " pure

reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in scripters

that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not mean, tantra

is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how it is misused.

 

 

 

Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

 

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

 

 

Nama shivaya is panchakshari

 

Na -ma - shi -va - ya

 

1    - 2  -  3  - 4  - 5

 

 

 

Garuda Panchakshari

 

kshipa aum swaha

 

kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

 

1-     2-    3-     4-     5

 

 

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

 

1 -       2   - 3    - 4    - 5 - 6  -  7   - 8

 

 

 

shivaashtaakshari

 

 

 

Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

 

Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

1     - 2           - 3          -  4    - 5    - 6    - 7   - 8   -

 

 

 

Another version

 

 

 

hreem Aum  hreem namH shivaaya

 

hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

1     - 2           - 3          -  4    - 5    - 6    - 7   - 8   -

 

 

 

Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

 

Gam Ganapathaye namaH

 

Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

 

1     - 2- 3- 4- 5-  6- 7   - 8

 

 

 

Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

 

Aum namo vaasudevaaya

 

Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

 

1 -      2 -3 -   4   - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

 

 

Dwaakshari -

 

Aum -Na- mo-  Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

 

1      - 2   - 3  -  4   -  5    6  -  7  -  8  - 9  - 10- 11 - 12

 

 

 

when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

 

hreem  gam   hreem  vashamaanaya swaaha

 

hreem - gam -  hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

 

1-          2-        3-         4-  5-   6-    7-   8-   9- 10

 

 

 

Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should recite,

do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

 

 

1) nakshtra anukoolam

 

2) rashi anukoolam

 

3) yoni maitri

 

4) gana maitri

 

5) RhriNa anukoolam

 

6) Kula anukoolam

 

7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

 

 

These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

 

 

The subject is very vast.

 

 

 

so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

 

 

However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

 

 

Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.  

 

 

 

Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

 

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

 

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

 

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

 

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

 

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

 

 

as u have pointed out the

 

 

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

 

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

 

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

 

 

Prashant

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

 

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

 

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

 

 

its correct rendering is

 

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

 

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

 

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

 

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

 

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

 

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

 

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of which

you do not know.

 

 

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

 

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

 

Re: Job

 

 

 

Chitra ji,

 

 

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

 

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

 

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

 

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

 

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

 

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

 

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

 

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

 

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give to

ur husband.

 

 

 

Barkot, Tan

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

 

Job

 

" " <>

 

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

 

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

 

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

 

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

 

 

Chitra

 

 

 

 

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Yes Suresh ji,

 

This is human Error,  This is right.  

 

I wrote in previous email -

 

"    Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

 

 OM NAMEH NARYANA  "

 

 

 

The above mistake I did, because my Lab top has some problem during typing.  So 

'A' is missing in above mantra.  I typed,but not checked it, will give

consideration, If I post further.

 

 

It is a case of by chance. I have not any attention to write wrong mantra here.

Sorry for this.

 

 

 

Barkot, Tan

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009, 6:16 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Prashant ji,

 

 

 

well said. In todays scenario, one cannot expect  everyone  to study these

scriptures and totaly live according to traditions. It simply is impossible.

 

 

 

ANY ONE CAN DO MISTAKES, BUT ONLY A LEARNED ONE ADMITS IT.

 

 

 

" TO ERR IS HUMAN " ,   don't remember who said it.

 

 

 

However, those who aspire to guide others always keeps an open mind and learn as

much as they can as time, situations permit. No one can learn every thing fully

in this life time.

 

 

 

One of my friend who also runs a veda pattasala, claims that it takes 12 years

of study to master one veda and rituals and yet true knowledge depends on the

aspirations of the person. So imagine, what one can learn from a few

books overnight. Today, I saw an advertisement in the local daily offering

postal cource for 3months in all the four vedas and rituals for rs500/- and a

certificate of " Veda Praveshika " . It is good to speard the knowledge and it

would be better if those who learn likewise also remembers their limitations.

Unfortunately, they wont. They would use this limited knowledge brandishing

their certificates and exploit others.

 

 

 

Geographicaly speaking, The strength of North India is their Bhakti Marga and

that of South India is Tantra with a few exceptions. Each has its own & merrits

& de-merrits depending on situations and persons.

 

 

 

Today every thing has become commercial - astrology, gemology, Vedic Astrology,

Rituals.

 

 

 

There is saying -

 

 

 

" If the person who is offering food does not care, those who eat it should "

 

 

 

As I said, why should I or Prahsant ji or krishana ji or any other Pundit on

this forum bother about what happen to others, or whether, what they are doing

is right or wrong. - sincerely - not bothered at all. But I consider it my

dharma to atleast warn once about what they are doing and what might

happen, having some knowledge in these matters and to show correct way.

 

 

 

Some members might get hurt but it is  totaly upto them & others whether they

should accept this and learn much more or not.

 

 

 

If there is no difference in pronouncing between " namhe " & " namo " , I think we

have a new rishi to pay our respects.

 

 

 

" asya shree namhe narayana mantrasya barkot tom rishiH ----- chandaH, narayano

devatha.... "

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy. 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:48:57 PM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Suresh ji

 

 

 

a good content based post, Well being a brahmin too but less on the religious

side we r used to the admin side in our ancesstors though there were some vedic

cholars and yet in admin.

 

 

 

but last 3 generations like most of India we have drifted and what little i know

i post as i did now and without hesitation have asked u, arjun ji, Krishna ji,

rafel g also to post their views from what i see of their posts also none of us

r experts esp one on the net but whatever we all know our limitations and come

out openly and share, ask what we can do, but fortunately never tried to do what

is happening like saying it is ok, just the same , chaltha hai kind when we tell

them Mantras are sacrascant and needs a Guru to initate it as well

 

 

 

either parents or a family priest

 

books or hear say will never take u forward a mantra is a vehicle u need a

training time under a qualified person and get ur licence

 

 

 

prashant

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:21:47 PM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

 

 

The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night institutes

are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge. whatever books

that are available cheap in the market also do give full & version of these

traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look at the sales

figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We also see new

breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have cure for

" Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

 

 

It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some of

them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

 

 

it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done every

one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for such

dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for restricting

knowledge and riches from others.

 

 

 

It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

 

 

The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

 

 

India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

 

 

It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures, ancients

advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti " pure

reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in scripters

that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not mean, tantra

is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how it is misused.

 

 

 

Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

 

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

 

 

Nama shivaya is panchakshari

 

Na -ma - shi -va - ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

 

 

 

Garuda Panchakshari

 

kshipa aum swaha

 

kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

 

1- 2- 3- 4- 5

 

 

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

 

 

shivaashtaakshari

 

 

 

Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

 

Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

 

 

Another version

 

 

 

hreem Aum hreem namH shivaaya

 

hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

 

 

Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

 

Gam Ganapathaye namaH

 

Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

 

1 - 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7 - 8

 

 

 

Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

 

Aum namo vaasudevaaya

 

Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 -3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

 

 

Dwaakshari -

 

Aum -Na- mo- Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10- 11 - 12

 

 

 

when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

 

hreem gam hreem vashamaanaya swaaha

 

hreem - gam - hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

 

1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10

 

 

 

Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should recite,

do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

 

 

1) nakshtra anukoolam

 

2) rashi anukoolam

 

3) yoni maitri

 

4) gana maitri

 

5) RhriNa anukoolam

 

6) Kula anukoolam

 

7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

 

 

These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

 

 

The subject is very vast.

 

 

 

so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

 

 

However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

 

 

Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.

 

 

 

Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

 

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

 

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

 

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

 

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

 

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

 

 

as u have pointed out the

 

 

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

 

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

 

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

 

 

Prashant

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

 

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

 

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

 

 

its correct rendering is

 

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

 

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

 

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

 

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

 

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

 

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

 

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of which

you do not know.

 

 

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

 

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

 

Re: Job

 

 

 

Chitra ji,

 

 

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

 

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

 

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

 

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

 

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

 

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

 

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

 

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

 

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give to

ur husband.

 

 

 

Barkot, Tan

 

 

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

 

Job

 

" " <>

 

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

 

 

Hi,

 

 

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

 

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

 

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

 

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

 

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

 

 

Chitra

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sirs,

In all these internet based queries,first v tend to analyse and bring out the

issue and then uggest ways for remedies whether the querrant is interested or

not.In this instant the querrant shared the problem and needed to know the

problem and also further expectations and chances.for the issues to get

resolved.

In my personal analysis I have seen many members are not inclined to follow

suggestions or would like to perform remedies as suggested.They have also other

issues in connection with performing remedies as the places where they stay too

might not be conveneint for them to contemplate to do the remedies suggested by

us in the group.

The habbit of the members posing the (same) issue in different groups and also

their own consultation privately with some Astrologers and discuss in the goup

are very familiar ways.We as JR members professing Astrology with service in

mind extend all kinds of suggestions/advices.

Shri Suresh Ji is right that any pooja ritual or for that manta has to be done

with some sincerity and verbatim to be pronounced.Any deviation or coining the

new phases.or coming out with mantras not as per classicals is to be avoided

keeping in view the sanctity involved in all such mantras.To the extent possible

remedies have to be advised based on certain parameters mentioned in a very

detailed way by Shri Suresh Ji.

 

 

 

Vattem Krishnan

Cyber Jyotish Services

(For all counseling services)

 

 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009, 4:51 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night institutes

are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge. whatever books

that are available cheap in the market also do give full & version of these

traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look at the sales

figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We also see new

breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have cure for

" Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some of

them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done every

one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for such

dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for restricting

knowledge and riches from others.

 

It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures, ancients

advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti " pure

reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in scripters

that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not mean, tantra

is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how it is misused.

 

Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Nama shivaya is panchakshari

Na -ma - shi -va - ya

1    - 2  -  3  - 4  - 5

 

Garuda Panchakshari

kshipa aum swaha

kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

1-     2-    3-     4-     5

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

1 -       2   - 3    - 4    - 5 - 6  -  7   - 8

 

shivaashtaakshari

 

Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1     - 2           - 3          -  4    - 5    - 6    - 7   - 8   -

 

Another version

 

hreem Aum  hreem namH shivaaya

hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

1     - 2           - 3          -  4    - 5    - 6    - 7   - 8   -

 

Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

Gam Ganapathaye namaH

Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

1     - 2- 3- 4- 5-  6- 7   - 8

 

Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

Aum namo vaasudevaaya

Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

1 -      2 -3 -   4   - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

Dwaakshari -

Aum -Na- mo-  Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

1      - 2   - 3  -  4   -  5    6  -  7  -  8  - 9  - 10- 11 - 12

 

when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

hreem  gam   hreem  vashamaanaya swaaha

hreem - gam -  hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

1-          2-        3-         4-  5-   6-    7-   8-   9- 10

 

Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should recite,

do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

1) nakshtra anukoolam

2) rashi anukoolam

3) yoni maitri

4) gana maitri

5) RhriNa anukoolam

6) Kula anukoolam

7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

The subject is very vast.

 

so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.  

 

Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

  

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

as u have pointed out the

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of which

you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

Re: Job

 

Chitra ji,

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give to

ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

Job

" " <>

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Dear Barkot

 

even in this reply there r 10 instances of " A " Key sttoke compared to one

MISPLACED " " E " so does this carry itself here, u r the best judge

 

also u have not completed it either this time atleast u can take some EXTRA

EFFORT TO GET JUST one or two extra " A " 's in the Mantra i guess

 

a mantra has its full potential when the uccharana is perfect just like a bullet

for each gun the catridge its calibre r defined isnt it? can u use one for

another anywhere and hit the target no way so too i smantry

 

yes one can use AK47'S SERIES WILDY WITH ITS OWN BULLETS STILL

 

THIS IS ONLY A COMPARISON NOTHING INCITING

 

Prashant

 

 

 

 

________________________________

Barkot tan <tan_barkot

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:02:09 PM

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

Yes Suresh ji,

 

This is human Error, This is right.

 

I wrote in previous email -

 

" Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

The above mistake I did, because my Lab top has some problem during typing. So

'A' is missing in above mantra. I typed,but not checked it, will give

consideration, If I post further.

 

It is a case of by chance. I have not any attention to write wrong mantra here.

Sorry for this.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009, 6:16 AM

 

 

 

Dear Prashant ji,

 

well said. In todays scenario, one cannot expect everyone to study these

scriptures and totaly live according to traditions. It simply is impossible.

 

ANY ONE CAN DO MISTAKES, BUT ONLY A LEARNED ONE ADMITS IT.

 

" TO ERR IS HUMAN " , don't remember who said it.

 

However, those who aspire to guide others always keeps an open mind and learn as

much as they can as time, situations permit. No one can learn every thing fully

in this life time.

 

One of my friend who also runs a veda pattasala, claims that it takes 12 years

of study to master one veda and rituals and yet true knowledge depends on the

aspirations of the person. So imagine, what one can learn from a few books

overnight. Today, I saw an advertisement in the local daily offering postal

cource for 3months in all the four vedas and rituals for rs500/- and a

certificate of " Veda Praveshika " . It is good to speard the knowledge and it

would be better if those who learn likewise also remembers their limitations.

Unfortunately, they wont. They would use this limited knowledge brandishing

their certificates and exploit others.

 

Geographicaly speaking, The strength of North India is their Bhakti Marga and

that of South India is Tantra with a few exceptions. Each has its own & merrits

& de-merrits depending on situations and persons.

 

Today every thing has become commercial - astrology, gemology, Vedic Astrology,

Rituals.

 

There is saying -

 

" If the person who is offering food does not care, those who eat it should "

 

As I said, why should I or Prahsant ji or krishana ji or any other Pundit on

this forum bother about what happen to others, or whether, what they are doing

is right or wrong. - sincerely - not bothered at all. But I consider it my

dharma to atleast warn once about what they are doing and what might happen,

having some knowledge in these matters and to show correct way.

 

Some members might get hurt but it is totaly upto them & others whether they

should accept this and learn much more or not.

 

If there is no difference in pronouncing between " namhe " & " namo " , I think we

have a new rishi to pay our respects.

 

" asya shree namhe narayana mantrasya barkot tom rishiH ----- chandaH, narayano

devatha.... "

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

 

 

 

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:48:57 PM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

 

 

Dear Suresh ji

 

a good content based post, Well being a brahmin too but less on the religious

side we r used to the admin side in our ancesstors though there were some vedic

cholars and yet in admin.

 

but last 3 generations like most of India we have drifted and what little i know

i post as i did now and without hesitation have asked u, arjun ji, Krishna ji,

rafel g also to post their views from what i see of their posts also none of us

r experts esp one on the net but whatever we all know our limitations and come

out openly and share, ask what we can do, but fortunately never tried to do what

is happening like saying it is ok, just the same , chaltha hai kind when we tell

them Mantras are sacrascant and needs a Guru to initate it as well

 

either parents or a family priest

 

books or hear say will never take u forward a mantra is a vehicle u need a

training time under a qualified person and get ur licence

 

prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:21:47 PM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night institutes

are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge. whatever books

that are available cheap in the market also do give full & version of these

traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look at the sales

figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We also see new

breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have cure for

" Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some of

them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done every

one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for such

dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for restricting

knowledge and riches from others.

 

It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures, ancients

advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti " pure

reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in scripters

that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not mean, tantra

is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how it is misused.

 

Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Nama shivaya is panchakshari

 

Na -ma - shi -va - ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

 

Garuda Panchakshari

 

kshipa aum swaha

 

kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

 

1- 2- 3- 4- 5

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

shivaashtaakshari

 

Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

 

Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

Another version

 

hreem Aum hreem namH shivaaya

 

hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

 

Gam Ganapathaye namaH

 

Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

 

1 - 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7 - 8

 

Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

 

Aum namo vaasudevaaya

 

Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 -3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

Dwaakshari -

 

Aum -Na- mo- Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

 

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10- 11 - 12

 

when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

 

hreem gam hreem vashamaanaya swaaha

 

hreem - gam - hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

 

1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10

 

Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should recite,

do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

1) nakshtra anukoolam

 

2) rashi anukoolam

 

3) yoni maitri

 

4) gana maitri

 

5) RhriNa anukoolam

 

6) Kula anukoolam

 

7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

The subject is very vast.

 

so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.

 

Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting corrupted

and getting circulated also like this

 

apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

as u have pointed out the

 

Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

Prashant

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

 

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

what kind of mantra is this?

 

its correct rendering is

 

" OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

OHM is the pranava.

 

NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

 

NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of which

you do not know.

 

Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

____________ _________ _________ __

 

Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

 

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

 

Re: Job

 

Chitra ji,

 

without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

 

Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

 

On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

" OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give to

ur husband.

 

Barkot, Tan

 

--- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

 

Job

 

" " <>

 

Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

Hi,

 

This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

Time of birth - not sure

 

Star - Ashlesha

 

Thanks in advance for the responses

 

Chitra

 

 

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Dear Barkot Tan,

 

Though very busy with other matters, I must really thank you for turning this

discussion towards this direction.

 

The words you wrote just triggered something

 

Radhey Radhey Radhey Radhey Raadhey Govinda

Vrindavana chandra

Anaatha natha deena dayaala

raadhe govinda

 

Bhaksta valsala deenadayala

raadhe govinda

vrindaavana chandra

anaatha naatha dina bandho

raadhe govinda

 

nanda kumaara navanitachora

raadhe govinda

vrindaavana chandra

anaatha naathaa dina bandho

raadhe govinda

 

A song I cherish a lot.

 

There is another

 

krisha krishna mukunda janardhana

krishna govinda narayana hare

achutaananda govinda madhava

satchithananda narayana hare

 

My son used to become calm and and go to sleep with a smiling face when I sung

this song. He sometimes asks me to sing it even now at the age of sixteen.

 

In essence what you are saying is right within certain parameters.

 

As pointed out by me in earlier message, there are basically two type of deva

pooja - Tantra/Mantra and bhakti marga.

 

In the kind of bhakti marga it doesn't matter whether it is panchaksharri or

ashtakshari or whatever. It is bhakti in its purest form. In fact Shree krishna

has specifically stated that he love those who hold that kind of devotion to

him.

 

Now think carefully. if people have that kind of devotion (Prema Bhakti) towards

the lord, does it matter whether the Saturn is in their seventh or eight,

whether they get or loose jobs. will they ever ask questions here?. Even if

they do you would advice you to sing in praise of the lord with devotion.

 

Common man do not understand nor he is expected to understand the complexities

of bhakti and tantra / mantra. That is why ancient sages had also provided the

bhakti marga so that they too would get relief from the woes of material

existence. It is the simplest but very powerful form of worship. However, there

is a lot of difference in both the systems.

 

A mother out of love shall scold or sometimes punish her child. She may even

call him with different names other than his actual one. Yet the child

understands her. This is because of her love. No knowledge in this world can

measure that love. The pains she felt when the child had even a slight scratch,

when that child cries, when it is ill, it is all because of love. It is this

love that makes us look after them in their old age also. This is kind of Bhakti

/ love you are talking about.

 

At the same time, take a carnatic music or a Hindustani music. It has got a

particular underlying raga. The lyrics could be different, but each raga should

be sung in its own meter & pitch. It cannot be deviated. This is the essence of

mantra / tantra. One cannot change the meter or pitch etc and say it is the same

raga. There is science behind those ragas. Similarly there is science behind

mantras as well.

 

Shree Krishna has shown us both forms – Krishna with his sweet and enchanting

smile, powerful to pull and absorb any thing and every thing – which he

displayed in front of everyone and which all could see. But he also showed his

mighty form – Virata roopa, wielding the mighty Sudarshana Chakra , which only

Arjuna could see. Why couldn't others see it or why did he not show it to all?

 

Mantra are born out of Swaras – sounds – nada bindu. I am not going into the

subject as it is very vast. But hope this is enough to understand the complexity

related with the correct pronunciation and words in a mantra.

 

Stotras, Ashtothara, Sahasranama etc were provided for those who cannot

understand and follow these complexities. They also include Mantras related to

that deity but provided in a way that ordinary people also could recite them and

get the same effect as doing mantra sadhana.

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar

wrote:

>

> Dear Barkot

>

> even in this reply there r 10 instances of " A " Key sttoke compared to one

MISPLACED " " E " so does this carry itself here, u r the best judge

>

> also u have not completed it either this time atleast u can take some EXTRA

EFFORT TO GET JUST one or two extra " A " 's in the Mantra i guess

>

> a mantra has its full potential when the uccharana is perfect just like a

bullet for each gun the catridge its calibre r defined isnt it? can u use one

for another anywhere and hit the target no way so too i smantry

>

> yes one can use AK47'S SERIES WILDY WITH ITS OWN BULLETS STILL

>

> THIS IS ONLY A COMPARISON NOTHING INCITING

>

> Prashant

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> Barkot tan <tan_barkot

>

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:02:09 PM

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

>

>

> Yes Suresh ji,

>

> This is human Error, This is right.

>

> I wrote in previous email -

>

> " Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

>

> OM NAMEH NARYANA "

>

> The above mistake I did, because my Lab top has some problem during typing.

So 'A' is missing in above mantra. I typed,but not checked it, will give

consideration, If I post further.

>

> It is a case of by chance. I have not any attention to write wrong mantra

here. Sorry for this.

>

> Barkot, Tan

>

> --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

>

> Thursday, August 27, 2009, 6:16 AM

>

>

>

> Dear Prashant ji,

>

> well said. In todays scenario, one cannot expect everyone to study these

scriptures and totaly live according to traditions. It simply is impossible.

>

> ANY ONE CAN DO MISTAKES, BUT ONLY A LEARNED ONE ADMITS IT.

>

> " TO ERR IS HUMAN " , don't remember who said it.

>

> However, those who aspire to guide others always keeps an open mind and learn

as much as they can as time, situations permit. No one can learn every thing

fully in this life time.

>

> One of my friend who also runs a veda pattasala, claims that it takes 12 years

of study to master one veda and rituals and yet true knowledge depends on the

aspirations of the person. So imagine, what one can learn from a few books

overnight. Today, I saw an advertisement in the local daily offering postal

cource for 3months in all the four vedas and rituals for rs500/- and a

certificate of " Veda Praveshika " . It is good to speard the knowledge and it

would be better if those who learn likewise also remembers their limitations.

Unfortunately, they wont. They would use this limited knowledge brandishing

their certificates and exploit others.

>

> Geographicaly speaking, The strength of North India is their Bhakti Marga and

that of South India is Tantra with a few exceptions. Each has its own & merrits

& de-merrits depending on situations and persons.

>

> Today every thing has become commercial - astrology, gemology, Vedic

Astrology, Rituals.

>

> There is saying -

>

> " If the person who is offering food does not care, those who eat it should "

>

> As I said, why should I or Prahsant ji or krishana ji or any other Pundit on

this forum bother about what happen to others, or whether, what they are doing

is right or wrong. - sincerely - not bothered at all. But I consider it my

dharma to atleast warn once about what they are doing and what might happen,

having some knowledge in these matters and to show correct way.

>

> Some members might get hurt but it is totaly upto them & others whether they

should accept this and learn much more or not.

>

> If there is no difference in pronouncing between " namhe " & " namo " , I think we

have a new rishi to pay our respects.

>

> " asya shree namhe narayana mantrasya barkot tom rishiH ----- chandaH, narayano

devatha.... "

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

>

>

>

>

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

>

>

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:48:57 PM

>

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

>

>

>

> Dear Suresh ji

>

> a good content based post, Well being a brahmin too but less on the religious

side we r used to the admin side in our ancesstors though there were some vedic

cholars and yet in admin.

>

> but last 3 generations like most of India we have drifted and what little i

know i post as i did now and without hesitation have asked u, arjun ji, Krishna

ji, rafel g also to post their views from what i see of their posts also none of

us r experts esp one on the net but whatever we all know our limitations and

come out openly and share, ask what we can do, but fortunately never tried to do

what is happening like saying it is ok, just the same , chaltha hai kind when we

tell them Mantras are sacrascant and needs a Guru to initate it as well

>

> either parents or a family priest

>

> books or hear say will never take u forward a mantra is a vehicle u need a

training time under a qualified person and get ur licence

>

> prashant

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

>

>

>

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:21:47 PM

>

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

>

> Dear Prashant ji & others,

>

> The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night

institutes are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge.

whatever books that are available cheap in the market also do give full &

version of these traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look

at the sales figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We

also see new breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have

cure for " Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

>

> It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some

of them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

>

> it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done

every one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for

such dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for

restricting knowledge and riches from others.

>

> It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

>

> The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

>

> India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

>

> It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures,

ancients advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti "

pure reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in

scripters that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not

mean, tantra is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how

it is misused.

>

> Now about the Mantra as pointed out

>

> Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

>

> Nama shivaya is panchakshari

>

> Na -ma - shi -va - ya

>

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

>

> Garuda Panchakshari

>

> kshipa aum swaha

>

> kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

>

> 1- 2- 3- 4- 5

>

> Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

>

> Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

>

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

>

> shivaashtaakshari

>

> Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

>

> Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

>

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

>

> Another version

>

> hreem Aum hreem namH shivaaya

>

> hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

>

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

>

> Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

>

> Gam Ganapathaye namaH

>

> Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

>

> 1 - 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7 - 8

>

> Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

>

> Aum namo vaasudevaaya

>

> Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

>

> 1 - 2 -3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

>

> Dwaakshari -

>

> Aum -Na- mo- Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

>

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10- 11 - 12

>

> when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

>

> hreem gam hreem vashamaanaya swaaha

>

> hreem - gam - hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

>

> 1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10

>

> Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should

recite, do japa, do sadhana etc.

>

> 1) nakshtra anukoolam

>

> 2) rashi anukoolam

>

> 3) yoni maitri

>

> 4) gana maitri

>

> 5) RhriNa anukoolam

>

> 6) Kula anukoolam

>

> 7) sidhaadi shodhanam

>

> These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

>

> The subject is very vast.

>

> so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

>

> However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

>

> Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.

>

> Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

>

>

>

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

>

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

>

> Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

>

> well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting

corrupted and getting circulated also like this

>

> apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

>

> like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

>

> similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

>

> but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

>

> as u have pointed out the

>

> Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

>

> Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

>

> Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

>

> Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

>

> they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

>

> Prashant

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

>

>

>

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

>

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

>

> Dear Barkot Tan & Others

>

> " OM NAMEH NARYANA "

>

> what kind of mantra is this?

>

> its correct rendering is

>

> " OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

>

> OHM is the pranava.

>

> NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

>

> NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

>

> NARAYANA is chaturakshari

>

> NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

>

> Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of

which you do not know.

>

> Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

>

> frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

>

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

>

> Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

>

>

>

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

>

> Re: Job

>

> Chitra ji,

>

> without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

>

> Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

>

> In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

>

> Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

>

> On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

>

> Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

>

> Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

>

> " OM NAMEH NARYANA "

>

> Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give

to ur husband.

>

> Barkot, Tan

>

> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

>

> Job

>

> " " <>

>

> Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

>

> Hi,

>

> This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

>

> Date of birth - 1st May 1963

>

> Time of birth - not sure

>

> Star - Ashlesha

>

> Thanks in advance for the responses

>

> Chitra

>

>

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Dear Suresh ji,

 

Thanks.   

 

I like this time :

 

banke bihari, kajraray tere motay motay nain.

 

 

The word Krishna  and Rama is same.  One can check the difference with in a

week time.  It is easy to chant Ram ram ram ram...... for 24 hours. Soft word.

Give u peace and moksha.

 

The word Krishna   is strong or hard than Rama. It is typical to chant few

hours continuously.  

 

The Sankadi Rishi Muni Jan said to Vishnu ji, What is the benefit of this this

Bhagwad Katha. What is the main motive of giving these to all -

 

He said, This is Prema Bhakti, The things you can't get from many lifes and

after doing yoga, dhayana and smadhi. You get in this Prema Bhakti.

 

 

The word Upay and Remedy is very ancient. Even Shri Rama said to Jamvant ji - 

   KOI TO    - -   UPAY   --  HOGA.  Than one suggested, to called a

Biadh Ji from Lanka.

 

 

He told some upay, and Lakhsman Ji started again for fight. So UPAY OR REMEDIES

play a special part of life. 

 

 

I believe in such remedies, not belong to a particular greha. Which will be 

Sarvay Sarva.

 

 

 

 

 

Barkot, Tan

 

 

 

 

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag wrote:

 

sureshbabuag <sureshbabuag

Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

Thursday, August 27, 2009, 1:39 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Barkot Tan,

 

 

 

Though very busy with other matters, I must really thank you for turning this

discussion towards this direction.

 

 

 

The words you wrote just triggered something

 

 

 

Radhey Radhey Radhey Radhey Raadhey Govinda

 

Vrindavana chandra

 

Anaatha natha deena dayaala

 

raadhe govinda

 

 

 

Bhaksta valsala deenadayala

 

raadhe govinda

 

vrindaavana chandra

 

anaatha naatha dina bandho

 

raadhe govinda

 

 

 

nanda kumaara navanitachora

 

raadhe govinda

 

vrindaavana chandra

 

anaatha naathaa dina bandho

 

raadhe govinda

 

 

 

A song I cherish a lot.

 

 

 

There is another

 

 

 

krisha krishna mukunda janardhana

 

krishna govinda narayana hare

 

achutaananda govinda madhava

 

satchithananda narayana hare

 

 

 

My son used to become calm and and go to sleep with a smiling face when I sung

this song. He sometimes asks me to sing it even now at the age of sixteen.

 

 

 

In essence what you are saying is right within certain parameters.

 

 

 

As pointed out by me in earlier message, there are basically two type of deva

pooja - Tantra/Mantra and bhakti marga.

 

 

 

In the kind of bhakti marga it doesn't matter whether it is panchaksharri or

ashtakshari or whatever. It is bhakti in its purest form. In fact Shree krishna

has specifically stated that he love those who hold that kind of devotion to

him.

 

 

 

Now think carefully. if people have that kind of devotion (Prema Bhakti) towards

the lord, does it matter whether the Saturn is in their seventh or eight,

whether they get or loose jobs. will they ever ask questions here?. Even if

they do you would advice you to sing in praise of the lord with devotion.

 

 

 

Common man do not understand nor he is expected to understand the complexities

of bhakti and tantra / mantra. That is why ancient sages had also provided the

bhakti marga so that they too would get relief from the woes of material

existence. It is the simplest but very powerful form of worship. However, there

is a lot of difference in both the systems.

 

 

 

A mother out of love shall scold or sometimes punish her child. She may even

call him with different names other than his actual one. Yet the child

understands her. This is because of her love. No knowledge in this world can

measure that love. The pains she felt when the child had even a slight scratch,

when that child cries, when it is ill, it is all because of love. It is this

love that makes us look after them in their old age also. This is kind of Bhakti

/ love you are talking about.

 

 

 

At the same time, take a carnatic music or a Hindustani music. It has got a

particular underlying raga. The lyrics could be different, but each raga should

be sung in its own meter & pitch. It cannot be deviated. This is the essence of

mantra / tantra. One cannot change the meter or pitch etc and say it is the same

raga. There is science behind those ragas. Similarly there is science behind

mantras as well.

 

 

 

Shree Krishna has shown us both forms – Krishna with his sweet and enchanting

smile, powerful to pull and absorb any thing and every thing – which he

displayed in front of everyone and which all could see. But he also showed his

mighty form – Virata roopa, wielding the mighty Sudarshana Chakra , which only

Arjuna could see. Why couldn't others see it or why did he not show it to all?

 

 

 

Mantra are born out of Swaras – sounds – nada bindu. I am not going into the

subject as it is very vast. But hope this is enough to understand the complexity

related with the correct pronunciation and words in a mantra.

 

 

 

Stotras, Ashtothara, Sahasranama etc were provided for those who cannot

understand and follow these complexities. They also include Mantras related to

that deity but provided in a way that ordinary people also could recite them and

get the same effect as doing mantra sadhana.

 

 

 

A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@. ..>

wrote:

 

>

 

> Dear Barkot

 

>

 

> even in this reply there r 10 instances of " A " Key sttoke compared to one

MISPLACED " " E " so does this carry itself here, u r the best judge

 

>

 

> also u have not completed it either this time atleast u can take some EXTRA

EFFORT TO GET JUST one or two extra " A " 's in the Mantra i guess

 

>

 

> a mantra has its full potential when the uccharana is perfect just like a

bullet for each gun the catridge its calibre r defined isnt it? can u use one

for another anywhere and hit the target no way so too i smantry

 

>

 

> yes one can use AK47'S SERIES WILDY WITH ITS OWN BULLETS STILL

 

>

 

> THIS IS ONLY A COMPARISON NOTHING INCITING

 

>

 

> Prashant

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

> Barkot tan <tan_barkot@ ...>

 

>

 

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 4:02:09 PM

 

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

>

 

>

 

> Yes Suresh ji,

 

>

 

> This is human Error, This is right.

 

>

 

> I wrote in previous email -

 

>

 

> " Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

>

 

> OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

>

 

> The above mistake I did, because my Lab top has some problem during typing.

So 'A' is missing in above mantra. I typed,but not checked it, will give

consideration, If I post further.

 

>

 

> It is a case of by chance. I have not any attention to write wrong mantra

here. Sorry for this.

 

>

 

> Barkot, Tan

 

>

 

> --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ > wrote:

 

>

 

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

>

 

> Thursday, August 27, 2009, 6:16 AM

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Prashant ji,

 

>

 

> well said. In todays scenario, one cannot expect everyone to study these

scriptures and totaly live according to traditions. It simply is impossible.

 

>

 

> ANY ONE CAN DO MISTAKES, BUT ONLY A LEARNED ONE ADMITS IT.

 

>

 

> " TO ERR IS HUMAN " , don't remember who said it.

 

>

 

> However, those who aspire to guide others always keeps an open mind and learn

as much as they can as time, situations permit. No one can learn every thing

fully in this life time.

 

>

 

> One of my friend who also runs a veda pattasala, claims that it takes 12 years

of study to master one veda and rituals and yet true knowledge depends on the

aspirations of the person. So imagine, what one can learn from a few books

overnight. Today, I saw an advertisement in the local daily offering postal

cource for 3months in all the four vedas and rituals for rs500/- and a

certificate of " Veda Praveshika " . It is good to speard the knowledge and it

would be better if those who learn likewise also remembers their limitations.

Unfortunately, they wont. They would use this limited knowledge brandishing

their certificates and exploit others.

 

>

 

> Geographicaly speaking, The strength of North India is their Bhakti Marga and

that of South India is Tantra with a few exceptions. Each has its own & merrits

& de-merrits depending on situations and persons.

 

>

 

> Today every thing has become commercial - astrology, gemology, Vedic

Astrology, Rituals.

 

>

 

> There is saying -

 

>

 

> " If the person who is offering food does not care, those who eat it should "

 

>

 

> As I said, why should I or Prahsant ji or krishana ji or any other Pundit on

this forum bother about what happen to others, or whether, what they are doing

is right or wrong. - sincerely - not bothered at all. But I consider it my

dharma to atleast warn once about what they are doing and what might happen,

having some knowledge in these matters and to show correct way.

 

>

 

> Some members might get hurt but it is totaly upto them & others whether they

should accept this and learn much more or not.

 

>

 

> If there is no difference in pronouncing between " namhe " & " namo " , I think we

have a new rishi to pay our respects.

 

>

 

> " asya shree namhe narayana mantrasya barkot tom rishiH ----- chandaH, narayano

devatha.... "

 

>

 

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy.

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

>

 

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:48:57 PM

 

>

 

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Dear Suresh ji

 

>

 

> a good content based post, Well being a brahmin too but less on the religious

side we r used to the admin side in our ancesstors though there were some vedic

cholars and yet in admin.

 

>

 

> but last 3 generations like most of India we have drifted and what little i

know i post as i did now and without hesitation have asked u, arjun ji, Krishna

ji, rafel g also to post their views from what i see of their posts also none of

us r experts esp one on the net but whatever we all know our limitations and

come out openly and share, ask what we can do, but fortunately never tried to do

what is happening like saying it is ok, just the same , chaltha hai kind when we

tell them Mantras are sacrascant and needs a Guru to initate it as well

 

>

 

> either parents or a family priest

 

>

 

> books or hear say will never take u forward a mantra is a vehicle u need a

training time under a qualified person and get ur licence

 

>

 

> prashant

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

>

 

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:21:47 PM

 

>

 

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

>

 

> Dear Prashant ji & others,

 

>

 

> The knowledge explotion created by media & internet and fly by night

institutes are mostly responcible for the kind of plight of real knowledge.

whatever books that are available cheap in the market also do give full &

version of these traditional knowledge. The publishers of such books only look

at the sales figures and their profit. They provide what the majority wants. We

also see new breed of swamijis who advertise & become famous by claiming to have

cure for " Satru badha " - a common fear in every one. Every becomes an enemy.

 

>

 

> It is unfortunate that the general public are lead by these pide-pipers some

of them due to their greed. People look for quick results / miracles to change

their lives over night to become mukesh ambani or asim premji and it is this

trend that leads to disaster.

 

>

 

> it is a pity that when some one say that japa & sadhana should not be done

every one, they are misunderstood and get wild not knowing the real reasons for

such dictomes. Easy falls the prey the poor brahmin who is accused for

restricting knowledge and riches from others.

 

>

 

> It is funny that these propagators of brahmin hate do not realise that if all

these mantras shall provide riches to all & sundry the brahmins in this country

should have been the richest lot in the world, whereas statistic shows they are

the poorest. recently we saw a post from a learned member that brahmins are

taking to cooly work. doesn't this proves the point. Once can argue that this is

because they deviated from the traditional paths & it is beacuse of the sins

they commited as brahmins etc.

 

>

 

> The message is simple. IF ANY ONE WANTS TO DO JAPA, SADHANA ETC, DO IT IN THE

PROPER WAY AND ACCORDING TO SASTRA, CUSTOMES AND TANTRA ORDAINED FOR THEM.

 

>

 

> India & hinduism has different tantra followed in various part of the country

for reasons of their own. One should not endeaver to enforce their tantra or

customes on other without proper and valid knowldege or reasons. It is when

these tantras or customes (Acharas) that are not according to shastras become

useless and become what can be termed " superstitions " .

 

>

 

> It is for this reason, difficult to follow & understand the scriptures,

ancients advocated pure bakthi marga as a way to redemption - " Nishkama Bhakti "

pure reverence without wishing for any thing in return. It is written in

scripters that " Bhakti " is far better than tantra in kali yuga. This does not

mean, tantra is useless, but only emphises on what we see of tantra today, how

it is misused.

 

>

 

> Now about the Mantra as pointed out

 

>

 

> Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

>

 

> Nama shivaya is panchakshari

 

>

 

> Na -ma - shi -va - ya

 

>

 

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5

 

>

 

> Garuda Panchakshari

 

>

 

> kshipa aum swaha

 

>

 

> kshi- pa- aum -swa- ha

 

>

 

> 1- 2- 3- 4- 5

 

>

 

> Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

>

 

> Aum - Na - mo - Na - ra - ya - na - ya

 

>

 

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

>

 

> shivaashtaakshari

 

>

 

> Aum hreem hroum namH shivaaya

 

>

 

> Aum - hreem - hrouaum - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

>

 

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

>

 

> Another version

 

>

 

> hreem Aum hreem namH shivaaya

 

>

 

> hreem - Aum - hreem - na - maH - shi - vaa- ya

 

>

 

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 -

 

>

 

> Ganapathy - Ashtakshara

 

>

 

> Gam Ganapathaye namaH

 

>

 

> Gam Ga na pa tha ye na maH

 

>

 

> 1 - 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7 - 8

 

>

 

> Vishnu-krishna - ashtakshari

 

>

 

> Aum namo vaasudevaaya

 

>

 

> Aum- na-mo -vaa-su-de-vaa- ya

 

>

 

> 1 - 2 -3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8

 

>

 

> Dwaakshari -

 

>

 

> Aum -Na- mo- Bha- ga- va- the- Va- su- de- vaa- ya

 

>

 

> 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10- 11 - 12

 

>

 

> when parameshwari is combines with ganapathy becoming dasaakshari-

 

>

 

> hreem gam hreem vashamaanaya swaaha

 

>

 

> hreem - gam - hreem - va-sha-maa-na- ya -swaa-ha

 

>

 

> 1- 2- 3- 4- 5- 6- 7- 8- 9- 10

 

>

 

> Tantra sashtra provides a NOT so easy way to find the mantra one should

recite, do japa, do sadhana etc.

 

>

 

> 1) nakshtra anukoolam

 

>

 

> 2) rashi anukoolam

 

>

 

> 3) yoni maitri

 

>

 

> 4) gana maitri

 

>

 

> 5) RhriNa anukoolam

 

>

 

> 6) Kula anukoolam

 

>

 

> 7) sidhaadi shodhanam

 

>

 

> These are the seven methods given in tantra sastras. A proficient guru checks

all these before initiating one to a particular Mantra sadhana.

 

>

 

> The subject is very vast.

 

>

 

> so any one can understand why every should not recite mantras at their whims &

fancies.

 

>

 

> However, Mantra sadhana done as family tradition are exceptions.

 

>

 

> Hope this helps every one particularly who seek to do mantra sadhana.

 

>

 

> Being a orthodox Brahmin and knowing some of these tantras (not an expert or

Purohit) , I can assure you pure Bakthi and heart felt prayers is 100% powerfull

than mantras recited without knowing proper meaning, application or " Ucharana "

pronounciation.

 

>

 

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

>

 

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:43:06 PM

 

>

 

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

>

 

> Dear Suresh ji, Barkot

 

>

 

> well suresh ji It is surprising how the Maha Moolantras r also getting

corrupted and getting circulated also like this

 

>

 

> apart from the N Indian inflexion more due to the Invaders lack of inflexion

usage did not know how to speak, pronounce such sweet languages and have used

the same sharp endings as their languages

 

>

 

> like ram for rama, Krishn for krishna or Dharm for Dharma

 

>

 

> similarly Shiv or Siva Narayan for Narayana

 

>

 

> but this was a cross breed I guess Najash narayan not the real one though

 

>

 

> as u have pointed out the

 

>

 

> Panchaakshar i-Aum Namashivayaa

 

>

 

> Ashtaakshari - Aum Namo Narayanaaya

 

>

 

> Dwaakshari -Aum Namo Bhagavatha Vasudevaaya.

 

>

 

> Mantras if not delivered in the given metere, tone, tonation can misfire leave

alone give one any results.

 

>

 

> they r sacred and need to be uttered under a careful guience of a guru -either

of the parents or a family priest

 

>

 

> Prashant

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

>

 

> Suresh Babu.A.G <sureshbabuag@ >

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:39:41 AM

 

>

 

> Re: Job - wrong mantra

 

>

 

> Dear Barkot Tan & Others

 

>

 

> " OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

>

 

> what kind of mantra is this?

 

>

 

> its correct rendering is

 

>

 

> " OHM NAMO NARAYANAYA "

 

>

 

> OHM is the pranava.

 

>

 

> NAMO NARAYANAYA is the mantra which is sapathakshari

 

>

 

> NARAYANAYA is panchakshari

 

>

 

> NARAYANA is chaturakshari

 

>

 

> NAMEH ? what is it Pullinga, streelinga, or napumsaka?

 

>

 

> Mantras are serious matters and do not venture into advicing some thing of

which you do not know.

 

>

 

> Not only you will be doing injustice to others but also yourself for giving

wrong advice.

 

>

 

> frankly, it doesn't matter to me if you take this personaly, but hope you will

take to serious studies in the subject.

 

>

 

> A.G.Suresh Babu Shenoy

 

>

 

> ____________ _________ _________ __

 

>

 

> Barkot tan <tan_barkot>

 

>

 

>

 

>

 

> Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:55:27 AM

 

>

 

> Re: Job

 

>

 

> Chitra ji,

 

>

 

> without perfect timing, it is typical to find out. It can be, but a leanghty

process.

 

>

 

> Next there is a prashan kundli or question analysis report.

 

>

 

> In my practice, I have seen, native take a wrong decision in his life, when

malefic planets give more effect,and almost stop their life.

 

>

 

> Do the worship of Shiri Hari Vishnu ji. Read the 10th chapter of Shiri Bhagwad

Gita Daily.

 

>

 

> On any ekadishi o the pooja or katha of Vishnu ji.

 

>

 

> Give a set of cloth to pandit, some food to poor.

 

>

 

> Chant this mantra for couple of month daily 9000 times

 

>

 

> " OM NAMEH NARYANA "

 

>

 

> Arrange a Lakshmi Ganesh Yantra. Keep with u. Get a ek mukhi rudraksha, give

to ur husband.

 

>

 

> Barkot, Tan

 

>

 

> --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com> wrote:

 

>

 

> Chitra Mandyam <chitram (AT) microsoft (DOT) com>

 

>

 

> Job

 

>

 

> " " <>

 

>

 

> Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 6:25 PM

 

>

 

> Hi,

 

>

 

> This is for my husband Ramesh. About 4 yrs back, he decided to quit his job to

start something on his own. Nothing really worked out for him and he still seems

to be persisting on those lines. Eventually when he was ready to quit that

effort and look for a job, nothing is clicking for him. He is basically a very

brilliant person having masters in Engg, etc but right now jobless and staying

home. When will this period end for him so he is actively into a job?

Financially there is a lot of pressure for me to support and also I had to see

so much of talent in him being wasted. He keeps all his emotions confidential

but I know he is going through a lot of pain.

 

>

 

> Date of birth - 1st May 1963

 

>

 

> Time of birth - not sure

 

>

 

> Star - Ashlesha

 

>

 

> Thanks in advance for the responses

 

>

 

> Chitra

 

>

 

>

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