An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

January 18, 2009

Ananda,

well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u ignore KSY?

personally I feel his

Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on so no

possibility of benefiting from it

Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on other

rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

none of this can give him good mental health, development

sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9 AND RAVI DASA

TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with nodes is a

mental health challangfed case his works gives many more examples

rest is up to other members to add

PRASHANT

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

________________________________

pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

India.

EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

the

many great yogas in the horoscope.

The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

Regards,

Ananda

http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

January 18, 2009

Well Kumarji, I could not even access the message since I am not a

member of this new forum and did not want to become one just to get

access to this one and only KSY chart that will provide definitive

conclusion!

When I was a child, I used to pine for cotton-candy (budhiya ka baal

as it was called in Madhya Pradesh where I grew up) but after

learning about what it really is and how harmful, I have stopped

consuming it on impulse!

Perhaps you or the original poster/promoter can give the full data

and we all can put our noses to the grind/wheel, as the saying goes!

RR

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Ananda,

>

> well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if

u ignore KSY?

>

> personally I feel his

>

> Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

>

> the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on

so no possibility of benefiting from it

> Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on

other

>

> rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

>

> none of this can give him good mental health, development

>

> sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9

AND RAVI DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

>

> followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

>

> B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra

with nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many

more examples

>

> rest is up to other members to add

>

> PRASHANT

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification

provide a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the

Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or

to my personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group

for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

> /database?

method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

> ________________________________

> pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999

>

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

> India.

>

> EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

> world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

> single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

> birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

>

> The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

> AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

> the

> many great yogas in the horoscope.

>

> The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only

2

> years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ananda

>

> http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

January 18, 2009

Dear Prashant,

Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in lagna)

& hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would function. One

should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to start

functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

following problems,

1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

extremely harmfull

5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to go. Also

note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is terrible.

That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of punishment, as

it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and vimsottory

dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal cord in

childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we may break

our head more on this.

Regards

Jk

On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Ananda,

well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

ignore KSY?

personally I feel his

Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on so no

possibility of benefiting from it

Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on other

rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

none of this can give him good mental health, development

sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9 AND RAVI

DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more examples

rest is up to other members to add

PRASHANT

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows &

tbl=6

________________________________

pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

India.

EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

the

many great yogas in the horoscope.

The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

Regards,

Ananda

http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

January 18, 2009

Dear JK,

When Lagna lord goes to the 12th

apart from Neecha and later NBRY

do other things count as much?

Lagna is like the soil strength, depending on it we can raise a multi-story

building height, if it happens to be clay soil with some expensive engineering

design we may build something tall unlike a good soil where the sky and

resources r the limit.

but for a horoscope the curses too add its weight there isnt it to drag it down

prashant

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

________________________________

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta

Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:06:59 PM

RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear Prashant,

Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in lagna)

& hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would function. One

should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to start

functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

following problems,

1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

extremely harmfull

5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to go. Also

note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is terrible.

That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of punishment, as

it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and vimsottory

dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal cord in

childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we may break

our head more on this.

Regards

Jk

[]On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Ananda,

well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

ignore KSY?

personally I feel his

Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on so no

possibility of benefiting from it

Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on other

rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

none of this can give him good mental health, development

sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9 AND RAVI

DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more examples

rest is up to other members to add

PRASHANT

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s &

tbl=6

____________ _________ _________ __

pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ >

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

India.

EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

the

many great yogas in the horoscope.

The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

Regards,

Ananda

http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

January 18, 2009

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Prashantji & learned Members,

Few things that i noted in the chart.

1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is gandanta.

2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house from Lagna.

3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is combusted/eclipsed.

4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana.

5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon.

All these above condition doesn't result in anything good.

Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence was Ketu,

Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position in D-6

chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house.

Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why couldn't

be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone through the MD

to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not able to see

Saturn MD in his life.

Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually in the

Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive planet, being

placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered auspicious.If

we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall in 12th

house & 8th house respectively.

However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika Yoga). There

is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven planets

have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to play(reference

:-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late V.S.Sastri,

Ranjan publication).

I dont know whether I am right with my analysis.

Thank you,

.

, " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

lagna)

> & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would

function. One

> should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

> childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to

start

> functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

> following problems,

>

> 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

> 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

> person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

> 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

> 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

> extremely harmfull

> 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

> dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to

go. Also

> note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

> 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

> Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

terrible.

> That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of

punishment, as

> it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

>

> But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and

vimsottory

> dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal

cord in

> childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we

may break

> our head more on this.

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

> On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

>

> Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

>

> Ananda,

>

> well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

> ignore KSY?

>

> personally I feel his

>

> Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

>

> the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not

on so no

> possibility of benefiting from it

> Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on

other

>

> rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

>

> none of this can give him good mental health, development

>

> sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9

AND RAVI

> DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

>

> followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

>

> B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

> nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

examples

>

> rest is up to other members to add

>

> PRASHANT

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from

> non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to

> verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows &

> tbl=6

>

> ________________________________

> pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999

>

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

> India.

>

> EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

> world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

> single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

> birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

>

> The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

> AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

> the

> many great yogas in the horoscope.

>

> The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

> years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ananda

>

> http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

>

January 18, 2009

Dear Prasant,

Lagna lord in 12th or connection of AK with badhakesh/badhakasthan also may

show foreign residency.

Regards

Jk

On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:29 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear JK,

When Lagna lord goes to the 12th

apart from Neecha and later NBRY

do other things count as much?

Lagna is like the soil strength, depending on it we can raise a

multi-story building height, if it happens to be clay soil with some

expensive engineering design we may build something tall unlike a good soil

where the sky and resources r the limit.

but for a horoscope the curses too add its weight there isnt it to drag it

down

prashant

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows &

tbl=6

________________________________

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta

Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:06:59 PM

RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear Prashant,

Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

lagna)

& hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would function.

One

should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to start

functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

following problems,

1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

extremely harmfull

5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to go.

Also

note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

terrible.

That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of punishment,

as

it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and vimsottory

dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal cord in

childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we may

break

our head more on this.

Regards

Jk

[]On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Ananda,

well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

ignore KSY?

personally I feel his

Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on so no

possibility of benefiting from it

Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on other

rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

none of this can give him good mental health, development

sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9 AND RAVI

DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

examples

rest is up to other members to add

PRASHANT

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s &

tbl=6

____________ _________ _________ __

pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ >

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

India.

EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

the

many great yogas in the horoscope.

The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

Regards,

Ananda

http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

January 18, 2009

Dear Gaurav,

For GMY it is not necessary that 7 planets will be in 7 houses. When there

are planets in 5 houses in line is a full GMY.

Regards

Jk

On Behalf Of

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:50 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Prashantji & learned Members,

Few things that i noted in the chart.

1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is gandanta.

2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house from Lagna.

3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is combusted/eclipsed.

4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana.

5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon.

All these above condition doesn't result in anything good.

Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence was Ketu,

Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position in D-6

chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house.

Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why couldn't

be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone through the MD

to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not able to see

Saturn MD in his life.

Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually in the

Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive planet, being

placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered auspicious.If

we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall in 12th

house & 8th house respectively.

However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika Yoga). There

is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven planets

have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to play(reference

:-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late V.S.Sastri,

Ranjan publication).

I dont know whether I am right with my analysis.

Thank you,

.

, " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta wrote:

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

lagna)

> & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would

function. One

> should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

> childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to

start

> functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

> following problems,

>

> 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

> 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

> person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

> 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

> 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

> extremely harmfull

> 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

> dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to

go. Also

> note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

> 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

> Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

terrible.

> That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of

punishment, as

> it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

>

> But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and

vimsottory

> dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal

cord in

> childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we

may break

> our head more on this.

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

> On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

>

> Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

>

> Ananda,

>

> well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

> ignore KSY?

>

> personally I feel his

>

> Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

>

> the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not

on so no

> possibility of benefiting from it

> Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on

other

>

> rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

>

> none of this can give him good mental health, development

>

> sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9

AND RAVI

> DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

>

> followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

>

> B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

> nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

examples

>

> rest is up to other members to add

>

> PRASHANT

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from

> non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to

> verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows &

> tbl=6

>

> ________________________________

> pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999

>

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

> India.

>

> EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

> world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

> single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

> birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

>

> The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

> AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

> the

> many great yogas in the horoscope.

>

> The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

> years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ananda

>

> http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

>

January 18, 2009

Dear JK,

for this many have already replied the DASA must be supportive, it has passed in

early age, at least parents must have been aroad with the child for some sort of

2nd hand YOGA, i doubt it has been the case either due to the said inherent

weakness.

no other dada supports his asumed status u haveyet to give like the original

poster what he cud be by yr scale

if KSY did not come in pouur punching bag for many- who dont count several other

factors]

Prashant

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

________________________________

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta

Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:41:04 PM

RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear Prasant,

Lagna lord in 12th or connection of AK with badhakesh/badhakast han also may

show foreign residency.

Regards

Jk

[]On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:29 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear JK,

When Lagna lord goes to the 12th

apart from Neecha and later NBRY

do other things count as much?

Lagna is like the soil strength, depending on it we can raise a

multi-story building height, if it happens to be clay soil with some

expensive engineering design we may build something tall unlike a good soil

where the sky and resources r the limit.

but for a horoscope the curses too add its weight there isnt it to drag it

down

prashant

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database? method=reportRow s &

tbl=6

____________ _________ _________ __

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta@ gmail.com>

Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:06:59 PM

RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear Prashant,

Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

lagna)

& hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would function.

One

should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to start

functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

following problems,

1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

extremely harmfull

5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to go.

Also

note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

terrible.

That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of punishment,

as

it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and vimsottory

dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal cord in

childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we may

break

our head more on this.

Regards

Jk

[Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Ananda,

well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

ignore KSY?

personally I feel his

Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on so no

possibility of benefiting from it

Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on other

rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

none of this can give him good mental health, development

sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9 AND RAVI

DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

examples

rest is up to other members to add

PRASHANT

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s &

tbl=6

____________ _________ _________ __

pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ >

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

India.

EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

the

many great yogas in the horoscope.

The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

Regards,

Ananda

http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

January 18, 2009

Prashant Jee,

Why a thread gets split into two?? A discussion should have single thread.

-VJ

======================================= ===========

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear JK,

>

> for this many have already replied the DASA must be supportive, it

has passed in early age, at least parents must have been aroad with

the child for some sort of 2nd hand YOGA, i doubt it has been the case

either due to the said inherent weakness.

>

> no other dada supports his asumed status u haveyet to give like the

original poster what he cud be by yr scale

> if KSY did not come in pouur punching bag for many- who dont count

several other factors]

>

> Prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

from non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide

a picture in the Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi

one or unknown folder. Consultations outside the group or to my

personal ID are chargeable. see Database section in the group for

more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

>

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

>

> ________________________________

> jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta

>

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:41:04 PM

> RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

>

> Dear Prasant,

>

> Lagna lord in 12th or connection of AK with badhakesh/badhakast han

also may

> show foreign residency.

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

> []On Behalf Of Prashant

Kumar G B

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:29 PM

>

> Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

>

> Dear JK,

>

> When Lagna lord goes to the 12th

>

> apart from Neecha and later NBRY

>

> do other things count as much?

>

> Lagna is like the soil strength, depending on it we can raise a

> multi-story building height, if it happens to be clay soil with some

> expensive engineering design we may build something tall unlike a

good soil

> where the sky and resources r the limit.

>

> but for a horoscope the curses too add its weight there isnt it to

drag it

> down

>

> prashant

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

> non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to

> verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

picture in the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s &

> tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta@ gmail.com>

>

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:06:59 PM

> RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

>

> Dear Prashant,

>

> Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

> lagna)

> & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would function.

> One

> should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

> childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to

start

> functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

> following problems,

>

> 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

> 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

> person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

> 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

> 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

> extremely harmfull

> 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

> dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to go.

> Also

> note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

> 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

> Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

> terrible.

> That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of

punishment,

> as

> it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

>

> But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and

vimsottory

> dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal

cord in

> childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we may

> break

> our head more on this.

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

> [Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of Prashant

Kumar G B

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

>

> Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

>

> Ananda,

>

> well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

> ignore KSY?

>

> personally I feel his

>

> Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

>

> the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on

so no

> possibility of benefiting from it

> Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on other

>

> rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

>

> none of this can give him good mental health, development

>

> sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9 AND

RAVI

> DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

>

> followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

>

> B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

> nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

> examples

>

> rest is up to other members to add

>

> PRASHANT

>

> I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

> non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

posting to

> verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

> the

> Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

> Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

> ICAS.

> http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

> method=reportRow s &

> tbl=6

>

> ____________ _________ _________ __

> pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ >

>

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

>

> See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

> India.

>

> EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

> world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

> single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

> birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

>

> The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

> AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

> the

> many great yogas in the horoscope.

>

> The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

> years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ananda

>

> http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

>

January 18, 2009

No no, I am not telling he will be in foreign land. I only opined that lagna

lord in 12th is not bad always. But here there are many problems in this

chart. Even if undeveloped brain problem was not there - I do not think the

chart is condusive of producing great yogas.

However, what we are discussing here is why undeveloped brain. I think his

real problem lies somewhere in lower spinal cord, as ketu in 8th and he

passed Ketu MD in childhood.

An interesting case. If Anand can give further details on this person - that

will be great.

Jk

On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:52 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear JK,

for this many have already replied the DASA must be supportive, it has

passed in early age, at least parents must have been aroad with the child

for some sort of 2nd hand YOGA, i doubt it has been the case either due to

the said inherent weakness.

no other dada supports his asumed status u haveyet to give like the

original poster what he cud be by yr scale

if KSY did not come in pouur punching bag for many- who dont count several

other factors]

Prashant

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows &

tbl=6

________________________________

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta

Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:41:04 PM

RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear Prasant,

Lagna lord in 12th or connection of AK with badhakesh/badhakast han also

may

show foreign residency.

Regards

Jk

[]On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:29 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear JK,

When Lagna lord goes to the 12th

apart from Neecha and later NBRY

do other things count as much?

Lagna is like the soil strength, depending on it we can raise a

multi-story building height, if it happens to be clay soil with some

expensive engineering design we may build something tall unlike a good

soil

where the sky and resources r the limit.

but for a horoscope the curses too add its weight there isnt it to drag it

down

prashant

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s &

tbl=6

____________ _________ _________ __

jk.dasgupta <jk.dasgupta@ gmail.com>

Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:06:59 PM

RE: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear Prashant,

Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

lagna)

& hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would function.

One

should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to start

functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The chart has

following problems,

1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu matures.

2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will bind a

person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

extremely harmfull

5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to go.

Also

note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK) Sun and

Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

terrible.

That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of punishment,

as

it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and vimsottory

dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal cord in

childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we may

break

our head more on this.

Regards

Jk

[Jyotish_ Remedies]On Behalf Of Prashant Kumar G

B

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Ananda,

well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

ignore KSY?

personally I feel his

Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not on so no

possibility of benefiting from it

Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on other

rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

none of this can give him good mental health, development

sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9 AND RAVI

DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra with

nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

examples

rest is up to other members to add

PRASHANT

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from

non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to

verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in

the

Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member

ICAS.

http://groups. / group/Jyotish_ Remedies/ database?

method=reportRow s &

tbl=6

____________ _________ _________ __

pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@ >

Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

India.

EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

the

many great yogas in the horoscope.

The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is only 2

years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

Regards,

Ananda

http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

January 18, 2009

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Mr.Dasgupta,

Can you please quote any classic which is supportive of your view???It

would be really pleasure & if I am convinced, I can certainly throw

Jatak parijata to the trash can or since it is valuable, may donate it

to the needy, who doesn't have it.

Thank you,

.

http://gauravastro.150m.com

, " jk.dasgupta "

<jk.dasgupta wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>

> For GMY it is not necessary that 7 planets will be in 7 houses. When

there

> are planets in 5 houses in line is a full GMY.

>

> Regards

>

> Jk

>

> On Behalf Of

> Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:50 PM

>

> Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Prashantji & learned Members,

> Few things that i noted in the chart.

> 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is gandanta.

> 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house from Lagna.

> 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is combusted/eclipsed.

> 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana.

> 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon.

> All these above condition doesn't result in anything good.

> Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence was Ketu,

> Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position in D-6

> chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house.

> Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why couldn't

> be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone through the MD

> to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not able to see

> Saturn MD in his life.

> Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually in the

> Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive planet, being

> placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered auspicious.If

> we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall in 12th

> house & 8th house respectively.

> However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika Yoga). There

> is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven planets

> have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to play(reference

> :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late V.S.Sastri,

> Ranjan publication).

> I dont know whether I am right with my analysis.

> Thank you,

> .

>

> , " jk.dasgupta "

> <jk.dasgupta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> >

> > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

> lagna)

> > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would

> function. One

> > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right

from the

> > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to

> start

> > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The

chart has

> > following problems,

> >

> > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu

matures.

> > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will

bind a

> > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

> > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

> > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi).

This is

> > extremely harmfull

> > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by

graha

> > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to

> go. Also

> > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

> > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK)

Sun and

> > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

> terrible.

> > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of

> punishment, as

> > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this

chart.

> >

> > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and

> vimsottory

> > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal

> cord in

> > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we

> may break

> > our head more on this.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Jk

> >

> > On Behalf Of Prashant

Kumar G B

> > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

> >

> > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

> >

> > Ananda,

> >

> > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

> > ignore KSY?

> >

> > personally I feel his

> >

> > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

> >

> > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not

> on so no

> > possibility of benefiting from it

> > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on

> other

> >

> > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

> >

> > none of this can give him good mental health, development

> >

> > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9

> AND RAVI

> > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

> >

> > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

> >

> > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra

with

> > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

> examples

> >

> > rest is up to other members to add

> >

> > PRASHANT

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from

> > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

> posting to

> > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

> picture in the

> > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are

chargeable. see

> > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life

Member

> > ICAS.

> >

>

/database?method=reportRows &

> > tbl=6

> >

> > ________________________________

> > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@>

> >

> > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

> > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

> > India.

> >

> > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

> > world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

> > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

> > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

> >

> > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

> > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

> > the

> > many great yogas in the horoscope.

> >

> > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is

only 2

> > years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ananda

> >

> > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

> >

January 18, 2009

Dear members,

The most famous fear generating as well as money generating Yogas of

today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki sadesathi " .Natives

are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and they are

only responsible for bad result which they are getting.

People have different views on these two,they have their own reasons

and interpretations.I would like to share my view.

These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology and there

is no any references about it.

As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of Saturn,from 12th

house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which comes in

every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not find any

one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil

Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect.Reason of bad

period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn only,but fear

have been created because of some thing else by name of Sadesati.

Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in between the

Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our great

founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as " Kal Sarp

Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this Rahu and

Keatu are not involved at all.

Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and

Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3-4) and benefice

occupies except Kenra Sthana,it will create " Sarp Yoga " .

The Yoga KSY have created by some years back only, by some money

sucker Astrologer and Karamkandi.They have describe its 12 form

related to each house as like Rahu in 1st House,Rahu in 2nd house as

like this.The planetary position have described as all planets comes

in between Rahu and Ketu and if one planet beyond this they said it

" Aanshik KSY " .Than I would like to say there are 3456 types of KSY.

How?If Rahu in Ascendant in Aries sign it will create one type of yoga

and if Ascendant sign is Taurus than it will give other result than

first one. As like we will get, 12 multiply 12 = 144 yoga and each

Yoga also form by two way R to K and K to R. than it will become 288

types and one planet is beyond than again multiply by 12 it will

become 3456 types of Yogas.How will we describe these all Yogas?

We are in the field of auspicious knowledge and people comes to us

with faith.It is our responsibilities to give them right

interpretation of Astrology and advise them accordingly.

It is my vies about these Yoga,if I am wrong any where than our

learned senior member will correct me.No one take it as any

offence,every one have their own views,personal experiences and

assumptions.

Thanks,

M.S.Bohra

, " "

<gaurav.ghosh wrote:

>

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> Dear Prashantji & learned Members,

> Few things that i noted in the chart.

> 1)Birth was in Magha Nakshatra, 1st quarter, which is gandanta.

> 2)Birth was in Ketu Dasa, this ketu falls in 8th house from Lagna.

> 3)Note,Ketu was in Mars's Nakshatra, who is combusted/eclipsed.

> 4)Ketu falls in 22nd Drekkana.

> 5)Only 2 malefics in Kendra from Moon.

> All these above condition doesn't result in anything good.

> Next comes the condition of D-charts. The dasa sequence was Ketu,

> Venus, Sun,Moon, Mars & presently Rahu. See their position in D-6

> chart.Mostly are either in 3rd house from D-6 or in 8th house.

> Now comes the question of being world famous. Certainly, why couldn't

> be world famous?? The answer is simple, he has not gone through the MD

> to make him world-famous. I am quite sure that he will not able to see

> Saturn MD in his life.

> Now condition of Saturn. Saturn being exalted is actually in the

> Nakshtra of 3rd & 6th house. Saturn being a positive planet, being

> placed in a negative planets nakshatra is not considered auspicious.If

> we again see Rasi-tulya Navamsha,ketu & saturn, both fall in 12th

> house & 8th house respectively.

> However, as a member said that there is GMY(Graha Malika Yoga). There

> is actually none. For a Graha Malika Yoga to fulfil, all seven planets

> have to be in 7 consecutive houses, nodes dont come to play(reference

> :-Jatak Parijata,Chpter7, Sloka132-135, translated by Late V.S.Sastri,

> Ranjan publication).

> I dont know whether I am right with my analysis.

> Thank you,

> .

>

, " jk.dasgupta "

> <jk.dasgupta@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prashant,

> >

> > Though this chart has strong sasa mahapurosh yoga (Saturn exalted in

> lagna)

> > & hamsa mahapurush yoga (Jup exaulted in 10H), only one would

> function. One

> > should keep in mind that any mahapurush yoga will start right from the

> > childhood, irrespective of dasa. But in this case any of the yoga to

> start

> > functioning is a problem, as both are involved in curses. The

chart has

> > following problems,

> >

> > 1. KSY, power of which should reduce after 43rd year, when Rahu

matures.

> > 2. Grahamalika starting from Jup and ending with Rahu. This will

bind a

> > person through out life. This yoga is no way less malefic than KSY

> > 3. Saturn in maranakaraka sthana.

> > 4. Moon in Gandanta (at the junction of a jala & agni rashi). This is

> > extremely harmfull

> > 5. Brahmin curse from past life, Jup aspected by Sat and Rahu by graha

> > dristi. This Jup is in fixed house in navamsa. The curse is hard to

> go. Also

> > note that Jup is in Asresa nakshatra - whose diety is Sarpa

> > 6. Mother's curse from past life, Moon conjoins atmakaraka (AK)

Sun and

> > Mars. When AK or lagna lord gets involved in a curse, suffering is

> terrible.

> > That too it happens in 11H. Jaimini says- 11H is the house of

> punishment, as

> > it is 6th from 6th. Moreover Leo is the badhaka sthana for this chart.

> >

> > But I am not clear why brain damage! Because Ketu is in 8H and

> vimsottory

> > dasa starts from Ketu, it may give problem in lower part of spinal

> cord in

> > childhood. If Anand can give more specific dates of incidents, we

> may break

> > our head more on this.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Jk

> >

> > On Behalf Of Prashant

Kumar G B

> > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:23 PM

> >

> > Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

> >

> > Ananda,

> >

> > well why don't u say what he cud have bececome by ur experience if u

> > ignore KSY?

> >

> > personally I feel his

> >

> > Lagna occupied by sani though a Yogakaraka is not a good thing

> >

> > the owner of it is neecha though NBRY with Budha its dasa is not

> on so no

> > possibility of benefiting from it

> > Lagna lord in 12th with malefics ravi+kuja on one side and sani on

> other

> >

> > rah+chandra in D9 in 12th and in 11th in D6

> >

> > none of this can give him good mental health, development

> >

> > sUKRA DASA THAT RAN WHEN YOUNG ITS LORD RAVI IS IN THE 8TH IN d9

> AND RAVI

> > DASA TO FOLLOW ALSO SAME STORY

> >

> > followed by chandra in 12th with rahu in d9

> >

> > B V RAMAN ju has said any association of Kuja+chandra or chandra

with

> > nodes is a mental health challangfed case his works gives many more

> examples

> >

> > rest is up to other members to add

> >

> > PRASHANT

> >

> > I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ

> from

> > non Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while

> posting to

> > verify ur birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a

> picture in the

> > Pictures folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown

> folder.

> > Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are

chargeable. see

> > Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life

Member

> > ICAS.

> >

>

/database?method=reportRows &

> > tbl=6

> >

> > ________________________________

> > pillooo_1999 <pillooo_1999@>

> >

> > Sunday, January 18, 2009 1:04:15 PM

> > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga

> >

> > See this horoscope, native born Sept 14th 1955 at 10 am Bangalore,

> > India.

> >

> > EXCEPT for Kalasarpa Yoga, I am sure the native would have been a

> > world renowned personality, so strong is the horoscope. But KSY has

> > single handedly made the person a mentally handicapped person from

> > birth due to permanent brain damage at birth itself.

> >

> > The above example clearly demonstrates how KSY alone (all 9 planets

> > AND Ascendant are between Rahu & Ketu) has completely crippled all

> > the

> > many great yogas in the horoscope.

> >

> > The person is almost completely dependent as his mental age is

only 2

> > years due to permanent brain damage at birth.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ananda

> >

> > http://groups. / group/Chart_ Analysis_ Vedic_Astrology/

> >

January 18, 2009

Dear Bhora,

It is unfair to say that the 2 much bashed points in astrology KSY, SADE SAAT

[and 3rdly Mangalik] have NO RELEVANCE

B V RAMANji has used this references in many situations esp his WW1 AND WW2

FORECASTS Indian Independence, UNO founding charts etc

so they exist the point is the exploitation of it by less qualified astrologers

or purohits who use it cleverly to make money from fear [this is sad and BAD]

they do exist and in some way or other affect ppl again depending on other

applicable factors

dasa, strength of grahas, ashtakavarga, Yogas etc

Abt 7.5 Sani

u can see it tests a person by fire and the strong survive weak fall down by

their own short comings sani is a hard task master, teacher, guide for life

look at DEVE GOWDA WHO BECAME CM, PM in its time

and PV Narshima rao ji who became PM in a strange situation with economy at its

worst [like Obama is facing in US now with his Ardha ashtama sani]

Narshima rao had many challenges he did so well in the end as he was a great

scholar, visionary, statesman, but for him the ecconomoci might of India would

have never be seen he brought Manmohan singh in and gave him a free had

IT, BIOTECH , communications, came to good progress in time to lifft India into

world stage

he was tested by Ayodhya, Mumbai riots, defections, sri lanka, china, pak,

bangladesh problems etc but stood tall worked his challenges like a ant not

visible but has his imprint in history, but Gowda remains a sleeping leader by

accident

don't discard what we don't lnow as elders have used it in the right way, crooks

have used them in their crooked ways

BTW MAN MOHAN SINGH IS ALSO IN MIDST OF SADE SAAT has faced enough challenges

well so far.

prashant

I use B V Raman's Ayanamsa only so Dasa, Vargas, Dates will differ from non

Raman's OTHER. Pl provide important dates in ur life while posting to verify ur

birth data and to help Lagna verification provide a picture in the Pictures

folder in the group either in the Lagna/rasi one or unknown folder.

Consultations outside the group or to my personal ID are chargeable. see

Database section in the group for more.- G B Prashant Kumar Life Member ICAS.

/database?method=reportRows & tbl=6

________________________________

msbohra62 <msbohra62

Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52:18 PM

Re: An example of Kala Sarpa Yoga 18/1

Dear members,

The most famous fear generating as well as money generating Yogas of

today ,in Astrological field are KSY and " Sani ki sadesathi " .Natives

are in fear because they said that they have these yoga and they are

only responsible for bad result which they are getting.

People have different views on these two,they have their own reasons

and interpretations. I would like to share my view.

These two Yogas not given in any ancient text of Astrology and there

is no any references about it.

As like " Sadesati " ,for 7 and 1/2 year of transit of Saturn,from 12th

house to 1st by Moon Sign.It called 'Sani ki Sadesati' which comes in

every human life in every interval of 30 years.You will not find any

one to suffer for this period.See the all Mukesh Ambani,Anil

Ambani,Sunil Mittal,Ratan Tata,Laxmi Mittal....ect. Reason of bad

period is some thing else not this Transit of Saturn only,but fear

have been created because of some thing else by name of Sadesati.

Now see KSY,this Yoga describe as all planets comes in between the

Nods,Rahu and Ketu.It is very interesting to know that our great

founder of Astrology and developer never given any Yoga as " Kal Sarp

Yoga " ,they have give one Yoga as " Sarp-Yoga " and in this Rahu and

Keatu are not involved at all.

Maharishi Parashar have stated Sarp Yoga as " If Sun,Saturn and

Mars,these malefic occupies Three Kendra Sthana(1-2-3- 4) and benefice