Guest guest Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Respected gurujis, Pranam. I am trying to learn vedic astrology and there comes a basic doubt in my mind - Whats the difference between naisargic nature and the functional nature of the planet.Let's say Jupiter is natual benefic planet , but in Makar lagna chart it acts as functional malefic --- Does it imply in general it's dasa will be bad ? What about it's drishti (aspect) will it also be bad (5th and 9th) ? Or, while aspecting/conjunction, it will remain benefic only ? If the same case holds good for natual malefic planet like Saturn also ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dear Abhishek Ji, while studying the role of planets and strength of planets sevaral considerations come up with reference to sign,houses and their nature too along with placement of plantes in them. Though the basic understanding as benific and malefic planets no planet except in naisargic bala tend to refelct the beahviour.The results that arise out of planets get influenced by their placements and status of palnets.Liek a palnet in the alst quarter of the progression vriddhapaya stage results are not considered even if the planet happens to be benific. Also the sign of makara,happen to be the sign owned in kalapurusha is considered to be not good for it's palcements but gives good results by way of aspects.to some extent jupiter palcement was considered as not very auspicious by virtue of placements. Naisargic bala of the palnets is due to directiona strengths and core nature and strength of the palnets comes up from the bhavas and lords of these bahavas. vrkrishan --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai Basic question Monday, August 11, 2008, 12:22 PM Respected gurujis, Pranam. I am trying to learn vedic astrology and there comes a basic doubt in my mind - Whats the difference between naisargic nature and the functional nature of the planet.Let's say Jupiter is natual benefic planet , but in Makar lagna chart it acts as functional malefic --- Does it imply in general it's dasa will be bad ? What about it's drishti (aspect) will it also be bad (5th and 9th) ? Or, while aspecting/conjuncti on, it will remain benefic only ? If the same case holds good for natual malefic planet like Saturn also ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs. com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for the reply. There are few points still unclear to me. you did not mention about the aspect of Jupiter even if it is placed badly in one house. Like, if placement of Jup is not good then it may not do good for his houses (lordship) , but if placement is good lets say in Kendra but being functional malefic planet for Makar Lagna chart ,will it's aspects will be malefic in nauture or benefic ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ________________________________ On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:21 AM Re: Basic question Dear Abhishek Ji, while studying the role of planets and strength of planets sevaral considerations come up with reference to sign,houses and their nature too along with placement of plantes in them. Though the basic understanding as benific and malefic planets no planet except in naisargic bala tend to refelct the beahviour.The results that arise out of planets get influenced by their placements and status of palnets.Liek a palnet in the alst quarter of the progression vriddhapaya stage results are not considered even if the planet happens to be benific. Also the sign of makara,happen to be the sign owned in kalapurusha is considered to be not good for it's palcements but gives good results by way of aspects.to some extent jupiter palcement was considered as not very auspicious by virtue of placements. Naisargic bala of the palnets is due to directiona strengths and core nature and strength of the palnets comes up from the bhavas and lords of these bahavas. vrkrishan --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > Basic question <%40> Monday, August 11, 2008, 12:22 PM Respected gurujis, Pranam. I am trying to learn vedic astrology and there comes a basic doubt in my mind - Whats the difference between naisargic nature and the functional nature of the planet.Let's say Jupiter is natual benefic planet , but in Makar lagna chart it acts as functional malefic --- Does it imply in general it's dasa will be bad ? What about it's drishti (aspect) will it also be bad (5th and 9th) ? Or, while aspecting/conjuncti on, it will remain benefic only ? If the same case holds good for natual malefic planet like Saturn also ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs. com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Dear Sir, Even though placement in a house is bad aspect of jupiter will always promote the house being aspected. The basic tenet for functionally benifics is that if placed in malefic house,to some extent malefic results get moderated.some times jupiter in kendra too suufers from dosha.better we take into account the stellar positions guiding the planets and house lords vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai RE: Basic question Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:48 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for the reply. There are few points still unclear to me. you did not mention about the aspect of Jupiter even if it is placed badly in one house. Like, if placement of Jup is not good then it may not do good for his houses (lordship) , but if placement is good lets say in Kendra but being functional malefic planet for Makar Lagna chart ,will it's aspects will be malefic in nauture or benefic ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:21 AM Re: Basic question Dear Abhishek Ji, while studying the role of planets and strength of planets sevaral considerations come up with reference to sign,houses and their nature too along with placement of plantes in them. Though the basic understanding as benific and malefic planets no planet except in naisargic bala tend to refelct the beahviour.The results that arise out of planets get influenced by their placements and status of palnets.Liek a palnet in the alst quarter of the progression vriddhapaya stage results are not considered even if the planet happens to be benific. Also the sign of makara,happen to be the sign owned in kalapurusha is considered to be not good for it's palcements but gives good results by way of aspects.to some extent jupiter palcement was considered as not very auspicious by virtue of placements. Naisargic bala of the palnets is due to directiona strengths and core nature and strength of the palnets comes up from the bhavas and lords of these bahavas. vrkrishan --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > Basic question <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> Monday, August 11, 2008, 12:22 PM Respected gurujis, Pranam. I am trying to learn vedic astrology and there comes a basic doubt in my mind - Whats the difference between naisargic nature and the functional nature of the planet.Let's say Jupiter is natual benefic planet , but in Makar lagna chart it acts as functional malefic --- Does it imply in general it's dasa will be bad ? What about it's drishti (aspect) will it also be bad (5th and 9th) ? Or, while aspecting/conjuncti on, it will remain benefic only ? If the same case holds good for natual malefic planet like Saturn also ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs. com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for your reply. May be I am not looking at the problem correctly.This is my learning phase please bear with my understanding at the moment. Is there any guideline to state the result of the planet or house lord in particular stellar ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ________________________________ On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:56 PM RE: Basic question Dear Sir, Even though placement in a house is bad aspect of jupiter will always promote the house being aspected. The basic tenet for functionally benifics is that if placed in malefic house,to some extent malefic results get moderated.some times jupiter in kendra too suufers from dosha.better we take into account the stellar positions guiding the planets and house lords vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <%40> Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:48 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for the reply. There are few points still unclear to me. you did not mention about the aspect of Jupiter even if it is placed badly in one house. Like, if placement of Jup is not good then it may not do good for his houses (lordship) , but if placement is good lets say in Kendra but being functional malefic planet for Makar Lagna chart ,will it's aspects will be malefic in nauture or benefic ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:21 AM Re: Basic question Dear Abhishek Ji, while studying the role of planets and strength of planets sevaral considerations come up with reference to sign,houses and their nature too along with placement of plantes in them. Though the basic understanding as benific and malefic planets no planet except in naisargic bala tend to refelct the beahviour.The results that arise out of planets get influenced by their placements and status of palnets.Liek a palnet in the alst quarter of the progression vriddhapaya stage results are not considered even if the planet happens to be benific. Also the sign of makara,happen to be the sign owned in kalapurusha is considered to be not good for it's palcements but gives good results by way of aspects.to some extent jupiter palcement was considered as not very auspicious by virtue of placements. Naisargic bala of the palnets is due to directiona strengths and core nature and strength of the palnets comes up from the bhavas and lords of these bahavas. vrkrishan --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > Basic question <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> Monday, August 11, 2008, 12:22 PM Respected gurujis, Pranam. I am trying to learn vedic astrology and there comes a basic doubt in my mind - Whats the difference between naisargic nature and the functional nature of the planet.Let's say Jupiter is natual benefic planet , but in Makar lagna chart it acts as functional malefic --- Does it imply in general it's dasa will be bad ? What about it's drishti (aspect) will it also be bad (5th and 9th) ? Or, while aspecting/conjuncti on, it will remain benefic only ? If the same case holds good for natual malefic planet like Saturn also ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs. com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2008 Report Share Posted August 13, 2008 Dera Mr Abhishek ji, May b general reading of Pahladeepika of Shri Mantreshswar and Astrology for beginners by late B.V.Raman are very useful for understanding the subject. Planets have have six types of bala or strength Known as shadbala.where as houses as responsible for giving results relatin to that house with respective lords as karaks .if we take 3rd house mars as mangal as karak for sibblings and also for your communications. Astrology need to be understood from various perspective as we are tring to look all aspects from only 12 signs and same as 12 houses classified in 4 basin tenets and covering from birth to death. we always find 7th house for marriage and find venus position status venus or jupiter for men and women respectively and infer about an important issue of marraige vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai RE: Basic question Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:15 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for your reply. May be I am not looking at the problem correctly.This is my learning phase please bear with my understanding at the moment. Is there any guideline to state the result of the planet or house lord in particular stellar ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:56 PM RE: Basic question Dear Sir, Even though placement in a house is bad aspect of jupiter will always promote the house being aspected. The basic tenet for functionally benifics is that if placed in malefic house,to some extent malefic results get moderated.some times jupiter in kendra too suufers from dosha.better we take into account the stellar positions guiding the planets and house lords vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:48 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for the reply. There are few points still unclear to me. you did not mention about the aspect of Jupiter even if it is placed badly in one house. Like, if placement of Jup is not good then it may not do good for his houses (lordship) , but if placement is good lets say in Kendra but being functional malefic planet for Makar Lagna chart ,will it's aspects will be malefic in nauture or benefic ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:21 AM Re: Basic question Dear Abhishek Ji, while studying the role of planets and strength of planets sevaral considerations come up with reference to sign,houses and their nature too along with placement of plantes in them. Though the basic understanding as benific and malefic planets no planet except in naisargic bala tend to refelct the beahviour.The results that arise out of planets get influenced by their placements and status of palnets.Liek a palnet in the alst quarter of the progression vriddhapaya stage results are not considered even if the planet happens to be benific. Also the sign of makara,happen to be the sign owned in kalapurusha is considered to be not good for it's palcements but gives good results by way of aspects.to some extent jupiter palcement was considered as not very auspicious by virtue of placements. Naisargic bala of the palnets is due to directiona strengths and core nature and strength of the palnets comes up from the bhavas and lords of these bahavas. vrkrishan --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A. Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A. Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > Basic question <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> Monday, August 11, 2008, 12:22 PM Respected gurujis, Pranam. I am trying to learn vedic astrology and there comes a basic doubt in my mind - Whats the difference between naisargic nature and the functional nature of the planet.Let's say Jupiter is natual benefic planet , but in Makar lagna chart it acts as functional malefic --- Does it imply in general it's dasa will be bad ? What about it's drishti (aspect) will it also be bad (5th and 9th) ? Or, while aspecting/conjuncti on, it will remain benefic only ? If the same case holds good for natual malefic planet like Saturn also ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs. com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 ok sir, I will first read these books and then come back if any doubt arises. Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ________________________________ On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:00 AM RE: Basic question Dera Mr Abhishek ji, May b general reading of Pahladeepika of Shri Mantreshswar and Astrology for beginners by late B.V.Raman are very useful for understanding the subject. Planets have have six types of bala or strength Known as shadbala.where as houses as responsible for giving results relatin to that house with respective lords as karaks .if we take 3rd house mars as mangal as karak for sibblings and also for your communications. Astrology need to be understood from various perspective as we are tring to look all aspects from only 12 signs and same as 12 houses classified in 4 basin tenets and covering from birth to death. we always find 7th house for marriage and find venus position status venus or jupiter for men and women respectively and infer about an important issue of marraige vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <%40> Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:15 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for your reply. May be I am not looking at the problem correctly.This is my learning phase please bear with my understanding at the moment. Is there any guideline to state the result of the planet or house lord in particular stellar ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:56 PM RE: Basic question Dear Sir, Even though placement in a house is bad aspect of jupiter will always promote the house being aspected. The basic tenet for functionally benifics is that if placed in malefic house,to some extent malefic results get moderated.some times jupiter in kendra too suufers from dosha.better we take into account the stellar positions guiding the planets and house lords vrkrishnan --- On Tue, 8/12/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 5:48 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for the reply. There are few points still unclear to me. you did not mention about the aspect of Jupiter even if it is placed badly in one house. Like, if placement of Jup is not good then it may not do good for his houses (lordship) , but if placement is good lets say in Kendra but being functional malefic planet for Makar Lagna chart ,will it's aspects will be malefic in nauture or benefic ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [Jyotish_ Remedies] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:21 AM Re: Basic question Dear Abhishek Ji, while studying the role of planets and strength of planets sevaral considerations come up with reference to sign,houses and their nature too along with placement of plantes in them. Though the basic understanding as benific and malefic planets no planet except in naisargic bala tend to refelct the beahviour.The results that arise out of planets get influenced by their placements and status of palnets.Liek a palnet in the alst quarter of the progression vriddhapaya stage results are not considered even if the planet happens to be benific. Also the sign of makara,happen to be the sign owned in kalapurusha is considered to be not good for it's palcements but gives good results by way of aspects.to some extent jupiter palcement was considered as not very auspicious by virtue of placements. Naisargic bala of the palnets is due to directiona strengths and core nature and strength of the palnets comes up from the bhavas and lords of these bahavas. vrkrishan --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A. 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Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Sri vrkrishnanji, I have started reading Phaldeepika. It is proving to be very helping understand the subject. Thanks a lot for guiding me. I have two requests : 1) Do you have electronic version of books by sri B V Raman , by any chance ? 2) How to read effects of planet in particular nakshatra ? any guidelines for that ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ________________________________ On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:00 AM RE: Basic question Dera Mr Abhishek ji, May b general reading of Pahladeepika of Shri Mantreshswar and Astrology for beginners by late B.V.Raman are very useful for understanding the subject. Planets have have six types of bala or strength Known as shadbala.where as houses as responsible for giving results relatin to that house with respective lords as karaks .if we take 3rd house mars as mangal as karak for sibblings and also for your communications. Astrology need to be understood from various perspective as we are tring to look all aspects from only 12 signs and same as 12 houses classified in 4 basin tenets and covering from birth to death. we always find 7th house for marriage and find venus position status venus or jupiter for men and women respectively and infer about an important issue of marraige vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <%40> Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:15 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for your reply. May be I am not looking at the problem correctly.This is my learning phase please bear with my understanding at the moment. Is there any guideline to state the result of the planet or house lord in particular stellar ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714/grpId=9699862/grpspId=1705082690/m sgId=51466/stime=1218618023/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848641/nc3=5202317> ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs.com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2008 Report Share Posted August 22, 2008 Dear Mr Abhshek, Just check www.astrological magazine.com of BV Ramans and also of shri KN Rao's Vedic Astrology.Here soft copies are available as down loads and some for sale in eform 2.About Nakshatras check nakshtramala in google and you get details or else David frawleys Book is very good vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai RE: Basic question Friday, August 22, 2008, 9:17 AM Sri vrkrishnanji, I have started reading Phaldeepika. It is proving to be very helping understand the subject. Thanks a lot for guiding me. I have two requests : 1) Do you have electronic version of books by sri B V Raman , by any chance ? 2) How to read effects of planet in particular nakshatra ? any guidelines for that ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:00 AM RE: Basic question Dera Mr Abhishek ji, May b general reading of Pahladeepika of Shri Mantreshswar and Astrology for beginners by late B.V.Raman are very useful for understanding the subject. Planets have have six types of bala or strength Known as shadbala.where as houses as responsible for giving results relatin to that house with respective lords as karaks .if we take 3rd house mars as mangal as karak for sibblings and also for your communications. Astrology need to be understood from various perspective as we are tring to look all aspects from only 12 signs and same as 12 houses classified in 4 basin tenets and covering from birth to death. we always find 7th house for marriage and find venus position status venus or jupiter for men and women respectively and infer about an important issue of marraige vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:15 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for your reply. May be I am not looking at the problem correctly.This is my learning phase please bear with my understanding at the moment. Is there any guideline to state the result of the planet or house lord in particular stellar ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek .. <http://geo.. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=9699862/ grpspId=17050826 90/m sgId=51466/stime= 1218618023/ nc1=4507179/ nc2=3848641/ nc3=5202317> ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs. com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2008 Report Share Posted August 27, 2008 thanks a lot sri vrkrishnanji. ________________________________ On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Friday, August 22, 2008 3:36 PM RE: Basic question Dear Mr Abhshek, Just check www.astrological magazine.com of BV Ramans and also of shri KN Rao's Vedic Astrology.Here soft copies are available as down loads and some for sale in eform 2.About Nakshatras check nakshtramala in google and you get details or else David frawleys Book is very good vrkrishnan --- On Fri, 8/22/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai <Abhishek-A.Bajpai%40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <%40> Friday, August 22, 2008, 9:17 AM Sri vrkrishnanji, I have started reading Phaldeepika. It is proving to be very helping understand the subject. Thanks a lot for guiding me. I have two requests : 1) Do you have electronic version of books by sri B V Raman , by any chance ? 2) How to read effects of planet in particular nakshatra ? any guidelines for that ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek ____________ _________ _________ __ [] On Behalf Of vattem krishnan Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:00 AM RE: Basic question Dera Mr Abhishek ji, May b general reading of Pahladeepika of Shri Mantreshswar and Astrology for beginners by late B.V.Raman are very useful for understanding the subject. Planets have have six types of bala or strength Known as shadbala.where as houses as responsible for giving results relatin to that house with respective lords as karaks .if we take 3rd house mars as mangal as karak for sibblings and also for your communications. Astrology need to be understood from various perspective as we are tring to look all aspects from only 12 signs and same as 12 houses classified in 4 basin tenets and covering from birth to death. we always find 7th house for marriage and find venus position status venus or jupiter for men and women respectively and infer about an important issue of marraige vrkrishnan --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > wrote: Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> <Abhishek-A.Bajpai@ ubs.com <Abhishek- A.Bajpai% 40ubs.com> > RE: Basic question <Jyotish_ Remedies% 40. com> Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 4:15 AM Sri vrkrishanji, Thank you very much for your reply. May be I am not looking at the problem correctly.This is my learning phase please bear with my understanding at the moment. Is there any guideline to state the result of the planet or house lord in particular stellar ? Thanks and Regards, Abhishek .. <http://geo.. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=9699862/ grpspId=17050826 90/m sgId=51466/stime= 1218618023/ nc1=4507179/ nc2=3848641/ nc3=5202317> ---------- Visit our website at http://www.ubs. com This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mails are not encrypted and cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message is provided for informational purposes and should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments. UBS Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 2035362, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS AG (London Branch) is registered as a branch of a foreign company under number BR004507, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. UBS Clearing and Execution Services Limited is a company registered in England & Wales under company number 03123037, whose registered office is at 1 Finsbury Avenue, London, EC2M 2PP, United Kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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