Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Hi, I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / understand jyotish. I often come across a situation where different software show planet placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we confirm the right position? I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but due to unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to calculate on my own and confirm the correctness. For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with one & 1st house with another software.. Name: Kinnari DOB: 22 Nov 1964 TOB: 20 : 20 POB: Vadodara, India Any guide line / comments ? warm regards Chetan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Hi, Solutions are many - a) Since you have used different softwares which show diffeent results, then treat the results which majority of the softwares show, as right. b)Since You know How to calculate, then You can get the Ephemeris for the year You mentioned at many Shops selling astrology Books or on Websites (Do Not ask me for Book shops or Sites, I do not like to give spoon feeding )and calculate yourself. c) You have to accept what the elders say as right and believe them. d) In this Forum if You have visited the Astrology Course Files, then you would have noticed I have given two websites in the Getting started or prelimnaries Files. have you checked those ? If after doing all above if You still do not receive proper understanding of which house Rahu should be, then please submit me full report of what You have done uptil now with regards to above, and your efforts in Form of degrees arrived in different softwares. It will just take 30 seconds for me to arrive at the correct position, but then I would like to help one who can at least try to help himself. Please put the list of Softwares You have used and what are the degrees of Rahu in each case, amd what sign and House Rahu is placed in each softwares chart. I want all the members of My Forum to do some homework and show that homework on the board, before putting up any enquiry about their personal charts. Best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Chetan " <cvpoo wrote: > > Hi, > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > understand jyotish. > > I often come across a situation where different software show planet > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > confirm the right position? > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but due to > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to calculate > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with one & > 1st house with another software.. > > Name: Kinnari > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > TOB: 20 : 20 > POB: Vadodara, India > > Any guide line / comments ? > > warm regards > Chetan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Chetan Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I emailed the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of Jagannatha Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a good explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. True Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes calculation always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. True Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it by going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation menu. I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the two methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on this group can give their opinons that would be great. -Srini , " Chetan " <cvpoo wrote: > > Hi, > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > understand jyotish. > > I often come across a situation where different software show planet > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > confirm the right position? > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but due to > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to calculate > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with one & > 1st house with another software.. > > Name: Kinnari > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > TOB: 20 : 20 > POB: Vadodara, India > > Any guide line / comments ? > > warm regards > Chetan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Om shivaya namah Dear srini, Upto my knowledge rahu, ketu, sun and moon don't have retro motion. Rgds Anand " skarri " <skarri 23 Mar 2007 08:06:21 Re: Correct position Chetan Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I emailed the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of Jagannatha Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a good explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. True Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes calculation always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. True Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it by going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation menu. I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the two methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on this group can give their opinons that would be great. -Srini @: <%40> , " Chetan " <cvpoo wrote: > > Hi, > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > understand jyotish. > > I often come across a situation where different software show planet > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > confirm the right position? > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but due to > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to calculate > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with one & > 1st house with another software.. > > Name: Kinnari > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > TOB: 20 : 20 > POB: Vadodara, India > > Any guide line / comments ? > > warm regards > Chetan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true Rahu. True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I shall not go into now, for its too technical. We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and it would suffice to give us the desired pointers. Bhaskar. , " skarri " <skarri wrote: > > Chetan > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I emailed > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of Jagannatha > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a good > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. True > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes calculation > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. True > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it by > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation menu. > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the two > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on this > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > -Srini > > , " Chetan " <cvpoo@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > > understand jyotish. > > > > I often come across a situation where different software show > planet > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > > confirm the right position? > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but due to > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to calculate > > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with one > & > > 1st house with another software.. > > > > Name: Kinnari > > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > > TOB: 20 : 20 > > POB: Vadodara, India > > > > Any guide line / comments ? > > > > warm regards > > Chetan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Really and in fact, none of the planets are Retrograde. Retrograde is just the illusion which is witnessed from our position on Earth. An illusion that th Sun rises and sets ,where in fact,the Sun is always there, but just the Earth is moving. All this is Maya. Another point rahu and Ketu may be considered as direct in astrological parlance between astrologers, as Rahu does not change its motion, its always Retograde, so it may be called as direct by few. But for us students and not going into unnecessary creation of confusions, The Sun and Moon are never retrograde. mars,mercury,saturn,venus and jupiter may retrograde sometimes and sometimes be in Direct motion, ie,both ways. Rahu and ketu are always in retrograde motion. Bhaskar. , " Anand Ravi " <anandravi2004 wrote: > > Om shivaya namah > > Dear srini, > > Upto my knowledge rahu, ketu, sun and moon don't have retro motion. > > Rgds > Anand > > > > " skarri " <skarri > 23 Mar 2007 08:06:21 > > Re: Correct position > > Chetan > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I emailed > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of Jagannatha > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a good > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. True > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes calculation > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. True > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it by > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation menu. > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the two > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on this > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > -Srini > > @: <%40> , " Chetan " <cvpoo@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > > understand jyotish. > > > > I often come across a situation where different software show > planet > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > > confirm the right position? > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but due to > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to calculate > > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with one > & > > 1st house with another software.. > > > > Name: Kinnari > > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > > TOB: 20 : 20 > > POB: Vadodara, India > > > > Any guide line / comments ? > > > > warm regards > > Chetan > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Dear Chetan, I will save You all the trouble. I need to becompassionate at times.(But not possible all thetimes, as I have atleast 40-60 mails daily asking for readings and some are so heart renderingthat one just cant help but reply). Your Rahu is in Gemini in the Ascendant.And Rahu is in Degrees 00.48.13.(I have used KP Ayanasmha) Please let me know if I am mistaken. How to calculate ? By the way I am giving below details fromRapheals Ephemeris for year 1964 Position of Rahu as On- 21-11-1964 is Gemini 24 degrees 07 minutes23-11-1964 is Gemini 24 degrees 01 minutes. Calculate the daily motion from abovefor required date which is in between.(You dont need Calculator for above) Convert Your IST Birth time to GMT time.What is the difference between GMT Noon(details in Rapheals are always for Noon)and your birth time ? Calculate the constant and multiplyto required time difference. From the answer you get - deduct theAyanamsha (Whatever You prefer)and the results would be theposition of Rahu at your birth. regards,Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> Hi,> > Solutions are many -> > a) Since you have used different softwares which show diffeent > results, then treat the results which majority of the softwares > show, as right.> b)Since You know How to calculate, then You can get the Ephemeris> for the year You mentioned at many Shops selling astrology Books> or on Websites (Do Not ask me for Book shops or Sites, I do not like > to give spoon feeding )and calculate yourself.> c) You have to accept what the elders say as right and believe them.> d) In this Forum if You have visited the Astrology Course Files, then > you would have noticed I have given two websites in the Getting > started or prelimnaries Files.> have you checked those ?> > If after doing all above if You still do not> receive proper understanding of which house Rahu should be,> then please submit me full report of what You have done uptil now > with regards to above, and your efforts in Form of degrees arrived in > different softwares.> > It will just take 30 seconds for me to arrive at the correct > position, but then I would like to help one who can at least> try to help himself.> > Please put the list of Softwares You have used and what are> the degrees of Rahu in each case, amd what sign and House > Rahu is placed in each softwares chart. > > I want all the members of My Forum to do some homework> and show that homework on the board, before putting up any> enquiry about their personal charts.> > Best wishes,> Bhaskar. > > > , "Chetan" <cvpoo@> wrote:> >> > Hi, > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > > understand jyotish. > > > > I often come across a situation where different software show > planet > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > > confirm the right position?> > > > I have been taught to calculate "spashta lagna & so on" but due to > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to calculate > > on my own and confirm the correctness.> > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with one > & > > 1st house with another software..> > > > Name: Kinnari> > DOB: 22 Nov 1964> > TOB: 20 : 20> > POB: Vadodara, India> > > > Any guide line / comments ?> > > > warm regards> > Chetan> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2007 Report Share Posted March 23, 2007 Thank you for explaination.. Here is the list of results I've used following software or websites and the results are as follows Jyotish Tools - Rahu – Taurus - 29° - 43' J Hora - Rahu – Gemini – 0° - 47' (using mean node) & Rahu – Taurus – 29° - 50' (using true node) Futurepointindia.com - Rahu – Taurus - 29° - 42' Plenatorypositions.com - Rahu – Taurus - 59° - 42' Astro2000- Rahu - Gemini - 0° - 41' So the meaning is that some are using mean node and others true node.. At this stage its too early for me to get in to the details. Still I'm curious.. I'll learn some day.. Also, as suggested by Bhaskarji I've downloaded the education material which I'll use for self education.. Much appreciated.. Kind Regards Chetan , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true Rahu.> True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I shall> not go into now, for its too technical.> We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and it would > suffice to give us the desired pointers.> > Bhaskar.> > > > , "skarri" skarri@ wrote:> >> > Chetan> > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I > emailed > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of Jagannatha > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a good > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. True > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes > calculation > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. True > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it by > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation > menu. > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the two > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on > this > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > -Srini> > > > , "Chetan" <cvpoo@> wrote:> > >> > > Hi, > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different software show > > planet > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > > > confirm the right position?> > > > > > I have been taught to calculate "spashta lagna & so on" but due > to > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to > calculate > > > on my own and confirm the correctness.> > > > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with > one > > & > > > 1st house with another software..> > > > > > Name: Kinnari> > > DOB: 22 Nov 1964> > > TOB: 20 : 20> > > POB: Vadodara, India> > > > > > Any guide line / comments ?> > > > > > warm regards> > > Chetan> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhaskarji & other members, I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True nodes shld be taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & its an itermediate step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao advises using true nodes. Thanq, , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true Rahu. > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I shall > not go into now, for its too technical. > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and it would > suffice to give us the desired pointers. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , " skarri " <skarri@> wrote: > > > > Chetan > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I > emailed > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of Jagannatha > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a good > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. True > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes > calculation > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. True > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it by > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation > menu. > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the two > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on > this > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > -Srini > > > > , " Chetan " <cvpoo@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different software show > > planet > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can we > > > confirm the right position? > > > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but due > to > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to > calculate > > > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > > > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with > one > > & > > > 1st house with another software.. > > > > > > Name: Kinnari > > > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > > > TOB: 20 : 20 > > > POB: Vadodara, India > > > > > > Any guide line / comments ? > > > > > > warm regards > > > Chetan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Dear Gauravji, Do we not take our information too from the Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. (For what reasons I shall let you know in future mails),but as per your knowledge by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's books, what have we got, what is the line of reasoning given by both of them, about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, where to be used which one and why ? regards, Bhaskar. , " Gaurav " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True nodes shld be > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & its an itermediate > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao advises using true > nodes. > Thanq, > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true Rahu. > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I shall > > not go into now, for its too technical. > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and it would > > suffice to give us the desired pointers. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , " skarri " <skarri@> wrote: > > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I > > emailed > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of > Jagannatha > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a good > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. > True > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes > > calculation > > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. > True > > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In > > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it > by > > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation > > menu. > > > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the > two > > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on > > this > > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > > > -Srini > > > > > > , " Chetan " <cvpoo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different software show > > > planet > > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can > we > > > > confirm the right position? > > > > > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but > due > > to > > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to > > calculate > > > > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > > > > > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house with > > one > > > & > > > > 1st house with another software.. > > > > > > > > Name: Kinnari > > > > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > > > > TOB: 20 : 20 > > > > POB: Vadodara, India > > > > > > > > Any guide line / comments ? > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Bhaskarji, Mr.Z.Ansari in his " Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery " says for Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they behave like direct planets also... He has mentioned some interesting inferences:- 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, these planets become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days. 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these become slower in motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not considered auspicious. 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, they move faster 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either side, the nodes become normal in motion..All these observations are made for True nodes... Thanq, , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Gauravji, > > Do we not take our information too from the > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. > (For what reasons I shall let you know > in future mails),but as per your knowledge > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > books, what have we got, what is the line > of reasoning given by both of them, > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, > where to be used which one and why ? > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " Gaurav " <gaurav.ghosh@> > wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True nodes shld be > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & its an > itermediate > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao advises using true > > nodes. > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true Rahu. > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I shall > > > not go into now, for its too technical. > > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and it would > > > suffice to give us the desired pointers. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " skarri " <skarri@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you have > > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I > > > emailed > > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of > > Jagannatha > > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a > good > > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: 1. > > True > > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes > > > calculation > > > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' say. > > True > > > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. In > > > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change it > > by > > > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet Calculation > > > menu. > > > > > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on the > > two > > > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts on > > > this > > > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > > > > > -Srini > > > > > > > > , " Chetan " <cvpoo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to learn / > > > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different software show > > > > planet > > > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How can > > we > > > > > confirm the right position? > > > > > > > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " but > > due > > > to > > > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to > > > calculate > > > > > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > > > > > > > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house > with > > > one > > > > & > > > > > 1st house with another software.. > > > > > > > > > > Name: Kinnari > > > > > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > > > > > TOB: 20 : 20 > > > > > POB: Vadodara, India > > > > > > > > > > Any guide line / comments ? > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Dear Gauravji, Okay good. But how do we connect these points in choosing Mean or True rahu for calculating position of the Nodes, what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, and what is the criteria of choosing the true Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ? What about the predictive part. How is this going to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the particular Rahu which he has left. Which departments of predictive astrology would be effected. You may take time to answer these queries. When you find some convincing and understandable answers, then please write back about this, so that it would give us all an oppurtunity to learn. But whatever inputs you keep coming in with, would be helpful somewhere or the other, so please put the posts whenever you feel its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. best regards, Bhaskar. , " Gaurav " <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Bhaskarji, > Mr.Z.Ansari in his " Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery " says for > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they behave like > direct planets also... > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:- > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, these planets > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days. > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these become slower in > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not considered > auspicious. > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, they move faster > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either side, the > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations are made for > True nodes... > Thanq, > > > , " Bhaskar " > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > Do we not take our information too from the > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. > > (For what reasons I shall let you know > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > books, what have we got, what is the line > > of reasoning given by both of them, > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, > > where to be used which one and why ? > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Gaurav " <gaurav.ghosh@> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True nodes shld > be > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & its an > > itermediate > > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao advises using > true > > > nodes. > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true Rahu. > > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I shall > > > > not go into now, for its too technical. > > > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and it > would > > > > suffice to give us the desired pointers. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " skarri " <skarri@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to what you > have > > > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha Dasa :-). I > > > > emailed > > > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author of > > > Jagannatha > > > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply with a > > good > > > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu position: > 1. > > > True > > > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean Nodes > > > > calculation > > > > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what 'shastras' > say. > > > True > > > > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward moving Rahu. > In > > > > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You can change > it > > > by > > > > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet > Calculation > > > > menu. > > > > > > > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of discussion on > the > > > two > > > > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the experts > on > > > > this > > > > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > > > > > > > -Srini > > > > > > > > > > , " Chetan " <cvpoo@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software to > learn / > > > > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different software > show > > > > > planet > > > > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same person). How > can > > > we > > > > > > confirm the right position? > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & so on " > but > > > due > > > > to > > > > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm unable to > > > > calculate > > > > > > on my own and confirm the correctness. > > > > > > > > > > > > For a example for following data Rahu falls in 12th house > > with > > > > one > > > > > & > > > > > > 1st house with another software.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Name: Kinnari > > > > > > DOB: 22 Nov 1964 > > > > > > TOB: 20 : 20 > > > > > > POB: Vadodara, India > > > > > > > > > > > > Any guide line / comments ? > > > > > > > > > > > > warm regards > > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji and Gaurav ji, In fact I am entangled with the same question since quite some time as the Rasi of Rahu and Ketu change in my horoscope depending up on whether I take mean nodes of true nodes. This could be an interesting test case. If I use mean nodes, my Rahu is in Libra, the third house. If I use ture nodes, Rahu moves into Virgo, the second house. I am not able to make up my mind as what should I really use. My birth data: DOB: 7-Sep-1958 TOB: 6:15 am POB: Bangalore Regards, Krishna --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Gauravji, > > Okay good. But how do we connect > these points in choosing Mean or True rahu > for calculating position of the Nodes, > what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, > and what is the criteria of choosing the true > Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen > and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ? > > What about the predictive part. How is this going > to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and > what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the > particular Rahu which he has left. > Which departments of predictive astrology would be > effected. > > You may take time to answer these queries. > When you find some convincing and understandable answers, > then please write back about this, so that it > would give us all an oppurtunity to learn. > > But whatever inputs you keep coming in with, > would be helpful somewhere or the other, > so please put the posts whenever you feel > its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. > > best regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , " Gaurav " > <gaurav.ghosh > wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > Mr.Z.Ansari in his " Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery " says for > > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they behave > like > > direct planets also... > > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:- > > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, these > planets > > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days. > > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these become > slower in > > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not considered > > auspicious. > > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, they > move > faster > > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either side, > the > > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations are > made for > > True nodes... > > Thanq, > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > > > Do we not take our information too from the > > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. > > > (For what reasons I shall let you know > > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge > > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > > books, what have we got, what is the line > > > of reasoning given by both of them, > > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, > > > where to be used which one and why ? > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True > nodes shld > > be > > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & its an > > > > itermediate > > > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao advises > using > > true > > > > nodes. > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true > Rahu. > > > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I > shall > > > > > not go into now, for its too technical. > > > > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and > it > > would > > > > > suffice to give us the desired pointers. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " skarri " > <skarri@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to > what you > > have > > > > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha > Dasa :-). > I > > > > > emailed > > > > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author > of > > > > Jagannatha > > > > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply > with a > > > good > > > > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu > position: > > 1. > > > > True > > > > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean > Nodes > > > > > calculation > > > > > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what > 'shastras' > > say. > > > > True > > > > > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward > moving Rahu. > > In > > > > > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You > can > change > > it > > > > by > > > > > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet > > Calculation > > > > > menu. > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of > discussion on > > the > > > > two > > > > > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the > > experts > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Srini > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Chetan " > <cvpoo@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software > to > > learn / > > > > > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different > software > > show > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same > person). How > > can > > > > we > > > > > > > confirm the right position? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & > so on " > > but > > > > due > > > > > to > > > > > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm > unable to > > > > > calculate > === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Don't get soaked. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 Dear Krishna ji, Nameste How is your relationship with Children,Elder brother and younger co -borns? If you are unhappy for somthing or other and You are higly couragious, these could be results of Rahu in III house. In this case Mean rahu is fine.In fact in olden days almost all horoscope I saw between 1970 to 1980 used only mean rahu. Please support or contradict the first hand assesment. This is not a analysis of your chart just a birds eye view on placement of Rahu with Jup in Libra with arudh of XI house. - Krishnamurthy Seetharama Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:57 PM Re: Re: Correct position Dear Bhaskar ji and Gaurav ji,In fact I am entangled with the same question since quite sometime as the Rasi of Rahu and Ketu change in my horoscopedepending up on whether I take mean nodes of true nodes. Thiscould be an interesting test case. If I use mean nodes, my Rahuis in Libra, the third house. If I use ture nodes, Rahu movesinto Virgo, the second house. I am not able to make up my mindas what should I really use.My birth data:DOB: 7-Sep-1958TOB: 6:15 amPOB: BangaloreRegards,Krishna--- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> Dear Gauravji,> > Okay good. But how do we connect> these points in choosing Mean or True rahu> for calculating position of the Nodes,> what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, > and what is the criteria of choosing the true > Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen> and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ?> > What about the predictive part. How is this going> to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and> what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the> particular Rahu which he has left.> Which departments of predictive astrology would be> effected.> > You may take time to answer these queries. > When you find some convincing and understandable answers,> then please write back about this, so that it> would give us all an oppurtunity to learn.> > But whatever inputs you keep coming in with,> would be helpful somewhere or the other,> so please put the posts whenever you feel> its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. > > best regards,> Bhaskar.> > > , "Gaurav"> <gaurav.ghosh > wrote:> >> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > Dear Bhaskarji,> > Mr.Z.Ansari in his "Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery" says for > > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they behave> like > > direct planets also...> > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:-> > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, these> planets > > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days.> > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these become> slower in > > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not considered > > auspicious.> > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, they> move > faster> > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either side,> the > > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations are> made for > > True nodes...> > Thanq,> > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Gauravji,> > > > > > Do we not take our information too from the> > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only.> > > (For what reasons I shall let you know> > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge> > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > > books, what have we got, what is the line> > > of reasoning given by both of them,> > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu,> > > where to be used which one and why ?> > > > > > regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav"> <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members,> > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True> nodes shld > > be > > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & its an> > > > itermediate > > > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao advises> using > > true > > > > nodes.> > > > Thanq,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true> Rahu.> > > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I> shall> > > > > not go into now, for its too technical.> > > > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and> it > > would > > > > > suffice to give us the desired pointers.> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "skarri"> <skarri@> > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Chetan> > > > > > > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to> what you > > have > > > > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha> Dasa :-). > I > > > > > emailed > > > > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author> of > > > > Jagannatha > > > > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply> with a > > > good > > > > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu> position: > > 1. > > > > True > > > > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean> Nodes > > > > > calculation > > > > > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what> 'shastras' > > say. > > > > True > > > > > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward> moving Rahu. > > In > > > > > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You> can > change > > it > > > > by > > > > > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet > > Calculation > > > > > menu. > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of> discussion on > > the > > > > two > > > > > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the> > experts > > on > > > > > this > > > > > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Srini> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Chetan"> <cvpoo@> > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software> to > > learn / > > > > > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different> software > > show > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same> person). How > > can > > > > we > > > > > > > confirm the right position?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been taught to calculate "spashta lagna & > so on" > > but > > > > due > > > > > to > > > > > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm> unable to > > > > > calculate > === message truncated ===Regards,Krishnahttp://astrokrishna.blogspot.com________Don't get soaked. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2007 Report Share Posted March 25, 2007 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Krishnaji, Sooner, after your birth, you got the Mahadasa of Rahu. Taking True Nodes---> Rahu is in 2nd from Lagna , Virgo Rashi, in 2nd Bhava.Rahu aspects, 6th bhava(some opposition)8th house(ill-health), 10th house(where the yogakark is posted,but instead Rahu's aspect are closer to Moon, the 12th lord, than Mars. this can either mean, you appeared for some interview during this period,specially for govt jobs, & failed...else dint join the work due to bad salary). It also had some bad impact on both of your eyes, as its aspects are closer to 12th lord than to Yogakarak.Also in Navamsha rahu is in 12th house frm Navamsha Lagna.This Rahu threw u into some competitions in terms of education & u cud have done some research during this period.Initially, studies were good, but in between, u got distracted!! Kindly confirm these. Thanq, , " swamircs " <swami_rcs wrote: > > Dear Krishna ji, > Nameste How is your relationship with Children,Elder brother and younger co -borns? > If you are unhappy for somthing or other and You are higly couragious, these could be results of Rahu in III house. > In this case Mean rahu is fine.In fact in olden days almost all horoscope I saw between 1970 to 1980 used only mean rahu. > Please support or contradict the first hand assesment. > This is not a analysis of your chart just a birds eye view on placement of Rahu with Jup in Libra with arudh of XI house. > - > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:57 PM > Re: Re: Correct position > > > Dear Bhaskar ji and Gaurav ji, > > In fact I am entangled with the same question since quite some > time as the Rasi of Rahu and Ketu change in my horoscope > depending up on whether I take mean nodes of true nodes. This > could be an interesting test case. If I use mean nodes, my Rahu > is in Libra, the third house. If I use ture nodes, Rahu moves > into Virgo, the second house. I am not able to make up my mind > as what should I really use. > > My birth data: > > DOB: 7-Sep-1958 > TOB: 6:15 am > POB: Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > Okay good. But how do we connect > > these points in choosing Mean or True rahu > > for calculating position of the Nodes, > > what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, > > and what is the criteria of choosing the true > > Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen > > and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ? > > > > What about the predictive part. How is this going > > to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and > > what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the > > particular Rahu which he has left. > > Which departments of predictive astrology would be > > effected. > > > > You may take time to answer these queries. > > When you find some convincing and understandable answers, > > then please write back about this, so that it > > would give us all an oppurtunity to learn. > > > > But whatever inputs you keep coming in with, > > would be helpful somewhere or the other, > > so please put the posts whenever you feel > > its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. > > > > best regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > Mr.Z.Ansari in his " Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery " says for > > > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they behave > > like > > > direct planets also... > > > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:- > > > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, these > > planets > > > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days. > > > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these become > > slower in > > > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not considered > > > auspicious. > > > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, they > > move > > faster > > > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either side, > > the > > > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations are > > made for > > > True nodes... > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > > > > > Do we not take our information too from the > > > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. > > > > (For what reasons I shall let you know > > > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge > > > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > > > books, what have we got, what is the line > > > > of reasoning given by both of them, > > > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, > > > > where to be used which one and why ? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > > > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True > > nodes shld > > > be > > > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & its an > > > > > > itermediate > > > > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao advises > > using > > > true > > > > > nodes. > > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not true > > Rahu. > > > > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which I > > shall > > > > > > not go into now, for its too technical. > > > > > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations and > > it > > > would > > > > > > suffice to give us the desired pointers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " skarri " > > <skarri@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close to > > what you > > > have > > > > > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha > > Dasa :-). > > I > > > > > > emailed > > > > > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the author > > of > > > > > Jagannatha > > > > > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a reply > > with a > > > > good > > > > > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate Rahu > > position: > > > 1. > > > > > True > > > > > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, Mean > > Nodes > > > > > > calculation > > > > > > > always gives a retrograde Rahu, which is what > > 'shastras' > > > say. > > > > > True > > > > > > > Nodes calculation can give sometimes a forward > > moving Rahu. > > > In > > > > > > > Jagannatha Hora, the default is 'Mean Nodes'. You > > can > > change > > > it > > > > > by > > > > > > > going to Preferences/Related to Calculation/ Planet > > > Calculation > > > > > > menu. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried searching the web and found a lot of > > discussion on > > > the > > > > > two > > > > > > > methods of calculation and no single opinion. If the > > > > experts > > > on > > > > > > this > > > > > > > group can give their opinons that would be great. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Srini > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Chetan " > > <cvpoo@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm a fresher in jyotish and use various software > > to > > > learn / > > > > > > > > understand jyotish. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I often come across a situation where different > > software > > > show > > > > > > > planet > > > > > > > > placed in different house (ofcourse for same > > person). How > > > can > > > > > we > > > > > > > > confirm the right position? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been taught to calculate " spashta lagna & > > so on " > > > but > > > > > due > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > unavailibility of previous years ephemeris I'm > > unable to > > > > > > calculate > > > === message truncated === > > Regards, > Krishna > http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com > > ________ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Dear Gaurav ji, Thanks for looking into my chart. Let me answer your questions: - I did not appear for any interview for Govt. job ever - I decided not to join a Govt. job not because of bad salary, but because of corruption and lack of creative opportunity. - My first job interview was in 1982, in Guru MD - My education went exceedingly well during Rahu MD. I passed out as University topper and Gold Medalist in Engineering (Is this because Rahu is a Vargottama?). There was definitly tough competition. For awarding the Gold Medal, they take the total marks of all subjects from all 10 semesters. I could beat my nearest competetor only in the final semester. Until then, I was lagging behind. I secured first Rank in both 9th and 10th semesters and that gave me the final push. - Only one bad event I remeber, which almost made me fail in my Chemistry Practicals. It was a titration experiment. Before starting the titration, we were suppose to shake the chemical in the bottle very well. I felt something was blocking my mind on that day. I was not very alert as well. I forgot to shake the bottle and got all wrong readings. After the first set of results, the invigilater looked at my sheet and said I could be doing something wrong. Even then, I did not realize that I was using the diluted liquid at the top portion of the bottle, I promptly recorded my readings and came out. I realised my mistake when came out and compared my results with that of my classmates. I was afraid that I will fail (for the first time ever in my life!). I can't explanin the anxiety and agony I went through till I got the results. I felt like kicking myself. Fortunately, I got just pass marks in that subject. This was sometime during 1976. - I completed B.E. in 1980 (Rahu MD), joined M.E. at Indian Institute of Science and finished it in 1982 (Guru MD). I did well there as well and was second in our batch. - Please note that Rahu and Guru are pretty close to each other. I would consider them conjunct even if they fall in different Rasis using true nodes. Regards, Krishna --- Gaurav <gaurav.ghosh wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Krishnaji, > Sooner, after your birth, you got the Mahadasa of Rahu. > Taking True Nodes---> > Rahu is in 2nd from Lagna , Virgo Rashi, in 2nd Bhava.Rahu > aspects, > 6th bhava(some opposition)8th house(ill-health), 10th > house(where > the yogakark is posted,but instead Rahu's aspect are closer to > Moon, > the 12th lord, than Mars. this can either mean, you appeared > for > some interview during this period,specially for govt jobs, & > failed...else dint join the work due to bad salary). It also > had > some bad impact on both of your eyes, as its aspects are > closer to > 12th lord than to Yogakarak.Also in Navamsha rahu is in 12th > house > frm Navamsha Lagna.This Rahu threw u into some competitions in > terms > of education & u cud have done some research during this > period.Initially, studies were good, but in between, u got > distracted!! > Kindly confirm these. > Thanq, > > > > > > , " swamircs " > <swami_rcs > wrote: > > > > Dear Krishna ji, > > Nameste How is your relationship with Children,Elder > brother and > younger co -borns? > > If you are unhappy for somthing or other and You are higly > couragious, these could be results of Rahu in III house. > > In this case Mean rahu is fine.In fact in olden days almost > all > horoscope I saw between 1970 to 1980 used only mean rahu. > > Please support or contradict the first hand assesment. > > This is not a analysis of your chart just a birds eye view > on > placement of Rahu with Jup in Libra with arudh of XI house. > > - > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:57 PM > > Re: Re: Correct position > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji and Gaurav ji, > > > > In fact I am entangled with the same question since quite > some > > time as the Rasi of Rahu and Ketu change in my horoscope > > depending up on whether I take mean nodes of true nodes. > This > > could be an interesting test case. If I use mean nodes, my > Rahu > > is in Libra, the third house. If I use ture nodes, Rahu > moves > > into Virgo, the second house. I am not able to make up my > mind > > as what should I really use. > > > > My birth data: > > > > DOB: 7-Sep-1958 > > TOB: 6:15 am > > POB: Bangalore > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > > > Okay good. But how do we connect > > > these points in choosing Mean or True rahu > > > for calculating position of the Nodes, > > > what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, > > > and what is the criteria of choosing the true > > > Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen > > > and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ? > > > > > > What about the predictive part. How is this going > > > to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and > > > what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the > > > particular Rahu which he has left. > > > Which departments of predictive astrology would be > > > effected. > > > > > > You may take time to answer these queries. > > > When you find some convincing and understandable > answers, > > > then please write back about this, so that it > > > would give us all an oppurtunity to learn. > > > > > > But whatever inputs you keep coming in with, > > > would be helpful somewhere or the other, > > > so please put the posts whenever you feel > > > its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. > > > > > > best regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Mr.Z.Ansari in his " Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery " says > for > > > > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they > behave > > > like > > > > direct planets also... > > > > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:- > > > > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, > these > > > planets > > > > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days. > > > > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these > become > > > slower in > > > > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not > considered > > > > auspicious. > > > > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, > they > > > move > > > faster > > > > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either > side, > > > the > > > > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations > are > > > made for > > > > True nodes... > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > > > > > > > Do we not take our information too from the > > > > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > > > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. > > > > > (For what reasons I shall let you know > > > > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge > > > > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > > > > books, what have we got, what is the line > > > > > of reasoning given by both of them, > > > > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, > > > > > where to be used which one and why ? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > > > > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says > True > > > nodes shld > > > > be > > > > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & > its an > > > > > > > > itermediate > > > > > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao > advises > > > using > > > > true > > > > > > nodes. > > > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not > true > > > Rahu. > > > > > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , > which === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Dear Swami ji, Thanks for looking at my chart. Let me answer your queries: - My relationship with children - good. I have no elder brother, relationship good with elder sister and younger sister is good. Not so good with my younger brother. It is not that I have fought with my younger brother. Somehow, we don't see eye to eye and don't interact much with each other. Just say " hello how are you " when we meet occassionally. - I am neither unhappy about something or the other nor very courageous. I always try to play it safe and not take too much of risk. - I get AL in the 10th, please check. Regards, Krishna --- swamircs <swami_rcs wrote: > Dear Krishna ji, > Nameste How is your relationship with Children,Elder brother > and younger co -borns? > If you are unhappy for somthing or other and You are higly > couragious, these could be results of Rahu in III house. > In this case Mean rahu is fine.In fact in olden days almost > all horoscope I saw between 1970 to 1980 used only mean rahu. > Please support or contradict the first hand assesment. > This is not a analysis of your chart just a birds eye view on > placement of Rahu with Jup in Libra with arudh of XI house. > - > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:57 PM > Re: Re: Correct position > > > Dear Bhaskar ji and Gaurav ji, > > In fact I am entangled with the same question since quite > some > time as the Rasi of Rahu and Ketu change in my horoscope > depending up on whether I take mean nodes of true nodes. > This > could be an interesting test case. If I use mean nodes, my > Rahu > is in Libra, the third house. If I use ture nodes, Rahu > moves > into Virgo, the second house. I am not able to make up my > mind > as what should I really use. > > My birth data: > > DOB: 7-Sep-1958 > TOB: 6:15 am > POB: Bangalore > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > Okay good. But how do we connect > > these points in choosing Mean or True rahu > > for calculating position of the Nodes, > > what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, > > and what is the criteria of choosing the true > > Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen > > and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ? > > > > What about the predictive part. How is this going > > to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and > > what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the > > particular Rahu which he has left. > > Which departments of predictive astrology would be > > effected. > > > > You may take time to answer these queries. > > When you find some convincing and understandable answers, > > then please write back about this, so that it > > would give us all an oppurtunity to learn. > > > > But whatever inputs you keep coming in with, > > would be helpful somewhere or the other, > > so please put the posts whenever you feel > > its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. > > > > best regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > <gaurav.ghosh > > wrote: > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > Mr.Z.Ansari in his " Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery " says for > > > > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they > behave > > like > > > direct planets also... > > > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:- > > > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, these > > planets > > > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days. > > > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these become > > slower in > > > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not > considered > > > auspicious. > > > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, > they > > move > > faster > > > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either > side, > > the > > > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations > are > > made for > > > True nodes... > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > > > > > Do we not take our information too from the > > > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. > > > > (For what reasons I shall let you know > > > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge > > > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > > > books, what have we got, what is the line > > > > of reasoning given by both of them, > > > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, > > > > where to be used which one and why ? > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > > > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True > > nodes shld > > > be > > > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & > its an > > > > > > itermediate > > > > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao > advises > > using > > > true > > > > > nodes. > > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not > true > > Rahu. > > > > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which > I > > shall > > > > > > not go into now, for its too technical. > > > > > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations > and > > it > > > would > > > > > > suffice to give us the desired pointers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " skarri " > > <skarri@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chetan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close > to > > what you > > > have > > > > > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha > > Dasa :-). > > I > > > > > > emailed > > > > > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the > author > > of > > > > > Jagannatha > > > > > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a > reply > > with a > > > > good > > > > > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate > Rahu > > position: > > > 1. > > > > > True > > > > > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao, > Mean > === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2007 Report Share Posted March 26, 2007 Dear Krishna Ji Nameste, Absence of Elder Brother and neutrality toward one younger co born is likly the influence of Rahu placement in III.Since I did not analyse your chart some trends mentioned support Mean rahu position to be taken seriously Most of the modification are apparantly for Jup being in Maran Karka sthana.But Jupiter gives nector wherever he sits and aspects, So what variations You have mentionedare possible. To keep things simple on my part , I wrote arudh of XI house usually denoted by A11 , I did not mean Arudh Lagna. As you already know Arudh of a house indicates natives perception ( how he looks at ) toward matters related to that house. I am grateful for your response.It is educative to make one aware how general resultscanstand modified by yuti and aspectsby other planets.Thank you. - Krishnamurthy Seetharama Monday, March 26, 2007 3:16 PM Re: Re: Correct position Dear Swami ji,Thanks for looking at my chart. Let me answer your queries:- My relationship with children - good. I have no elder brother,relationship good with elder sister and younger sister is good.Not so good with my younger brother. It is not that I havefought with my younger brother. Somehow, we don't see eye to eyeand don't interact much with each other. Just say "hello how areyou" when we meet occassionally.- I am neither unhappy about something or the other nor verycourageous. I always try to play it safe and not take too muchof risk.- I get AL in the 10th, please check.Regards,Krishna--- swamircs <swami_rcs > wrote:> Dear Krishna ji,> Nameste How is your relationship with Children,Elder brother> and younger co -borns?> If you are unhappy for somthing or other and You are higly> couragious, these could be results of Rahu in III house.> In this case Mean rahu is fine.In fact in olden days almost> all horoscope I saw between 1970 to 1980 used only mean rahu.> Please support or contradict the first hand assesment.> This is not a analysis of your chart just a birds eye view on> placement of Rahu with Jup in Libra with arudh of XI house.> - > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:57 PM> Re: Re: Correct position> > > Dear Bhaskar ji and Gaurav ji,> > In fact I am entangled with the same question since quite> some> time as the Rasi of Rahu and Ketu change in my horoscope> depending up on whether I take mean nodes of true nodes.> This> could be an interesting test case. If I use mean nodes, my> Rahu> is in Libra, the third house. If I use ture nodes, Rahu> moves> into Virgo, the second house. I am not able to make up my> mind> as what should I really use.> > My birth data:> > DOB: 7-Sep-1958> TOB: 6:15 am> POB: Bangalore> > Regards,> Krishna> > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > Dear Gauravji,> > > > Okay good. But how do we connect> > these points in choosing Mean or True rahu> > for calculating position of the Nodes,> > what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, > > and what is the criteria of choosing the true > > Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen> > and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ?> > > > What about the predictive part. How is this going> > to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and> > what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the> > particular Rahu which he has left.> > Which departments of predictive astrology would be> > effected.> > > > You may take time to answer these queries. > > When you find some convincing and understandable answers,> > then please write back about this, so that it> > would give us all an oppurtunity to learn.> > > > But whatever inputs you keep coming in with,> > would be helpful somewhere or the other,> > so please put the posts whenever you feel> > its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. > > > > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > , "Gaurav"> > <gaurav.ghosh > > wrote:> > >> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > Mr.Z.Ansari in his "Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery" says for> > > > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they> behave> > like > > > direct planets also...> > > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:-> > > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, these> > planets > > > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days.> > > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these become> > slower in > > > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not> considered > > > auspicious.> > > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun,> they> > move > > faster> > > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either> side,> > the > > > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations> are> > made for > > > True nodes...> > > Thanq,> > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Gauravji,> > > > > > > > Do we not take our information too from the> > > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only.> > > > (For what reasons I shall let you know> > > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge> > > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > > > books, what have we got, what is the line> > > > of reasoning given by both of them,> > > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu,> > > > where to be used which one and why ?> > > > > > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > , "Gaurav"> > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members,> > > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says True> > nodes shld > > > be > > > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & > its an> > > > > > itermediate > > > > > step for finding true nodes. Also Shree K.N.Rao> advises> > using > > > true > > > > > nodes.> > > > > Thanq,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > The normal practise is to use Mean rahu and not> true> > Rahu.> > > > > > True rahu is used for certain calculations , which> I> > shall> > > > > > not go into now, for its too technical.> > > > > > We should use Mean Rahu in our normal calculations> and> > it > > > would > > > > > > suffice to give us the desired pointers.> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "skarri"> > <skarri@> > > wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Chetan> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recently I had the same issue (My DOB is close> to> > what you > > > have > > > > > > > posted). On top of that I am running a Rahu Maha> > Dasa :-). > > I > > > > > > emailed > > > > > > > the question to Mr. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao, the> author> > of > > > > > Jagannatha > > > > > > > Hora software. He was kind enough to give me a> reply> > with a > > > > good > > > > > > > explanation. There are two ways to calculate> Rahu> > position: > > > 1. > > > > > True > > > > > > > Nodes and 2. Mean Nodes. According to Mr. Rao,> Mean> === message truncated ===Regards,Krishnahttp://astrokrishna.blogspot.com________8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut.http://tools.search./shortcuts/#news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2007 Report Share Posted March 27, 2007 Dear Swami ji, You said - " Absence of Elder Brother and neutrality toward one younger co-born is likly the influence of Rahu placement in III " Is it not due to Guru in the MKS? If Rahu is also placed in the third, the result would have been even worse, is it not? Is there a way to decide this using Ketu's position either in the 8th or in the 9th? Regards, Krishna --- swamircs <swami_rcs wrote: > > Dear Krishna Ji Nameste, > > Absence of Elder Brother and neutrality toward one younger co > born is likly the influence of Rahu placement in III.Since I > did not analyse your chart some trends mentioned support Mean > rahu position to be taken seriously Most of the modification > are apparantly for Jup being in Maran Karka sthana.But Jupiter > gives nector wherever he sits and aspects, So what variations > You have mentionedare possible. > To keep things simple on my part , I wrote arudh of XI house > usually denoted by A11 , I did not mean Arudh Lagna. As you > already know Arudh of a house indicates natives perception ( > how he looks at ) toward matters related to that house. > I am grateful for your response.It is educative to make one > aware how general resultscanstand modified by yuti and > aspectsby other planets.Thank you. > - > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > Monday, March 26, 2007 3:16 PM > Re: Re: Correct position > > > Dear Swami ji, > > Thanks for looking at my chart. Let me answer your queries: > > - My relationship with children - good. I have no elder > brother, > relationship good with elder sister and younger sister is > good. > Not so good with my younger brother. It is not that I have > fought with my younger brother. Somehow, we don't see eye to > eye > and don't interact much with each other. Just say " hello how > are > you " when we meet occassionally. > > - I am neither unhappy about something or the other nor very > courageous. I always try to play it safe and not take too > much > of risk. > > - I get AL in the 10th, please check. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- swamircs <swami_rcs wrote: > > > Dear Krishna ji, > > Nameste How is your relationship with Children,Elder > brother > > and younger co -borns? > > If you are unhappy for somthing or other and You are higly > > couragious, these could be results of Rahu in III house. > > In this case Mean rahu is fine.In fact in olden days > almost > > all horoscope I saw between 1970 to 1980 used only mean > rahu. > > Please support or contradict the first hand assesment. > > This is not a analysis of your chart just a birds eye view > on > > placement of Rahu with Jup in Libra with arudh of XI > house. > > - > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama > > > > Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:57 PM > > Re: Re: Correct position > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji and Gaurav ji, > > > > In fact I am entangled with the same question since quite > > some > > time as the Rasi of Rahu and Ketu change in my horoscope > > depending up on whether I take mean nodes of true nodes. > > This > > could be an interesting test case. If I use mean nodes, my > > Rahu > > is in Libra, the third house. If I use ture nodes, Rahu > > moves > > into Virgo, the second house. I am not able to make up my > > mind > > as what should I really use. > > > > My birth data: > > > > DOB: 7-Sep-1958 > > TOB: 6:15 am > > POB: Bangalore > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > --- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > > > Okay good. But how do we connect > > > these points in choosing Mean or True rahu > > > for calculating position of the Nodes, > > > what is the criteria in choosing Mean Node, > > > and what is the criteria of choosing the true > > > Node, and why should one choose what he has chosen > > > and why should one not choose what he has not chosen ? > > > > > > What about the predictive part. How is this going > > > to help when one chooses a particular Rahu, and > > > what is going to be the loss, when one leaves the > > > particular Rahu which he has left. > > > Which departments of predictive astrology would be > > > effected. > > > > > > You may take time to answer these queries. > > > When you find some convincing and understandable > answers, > > > then please write back about this, so that it > > > would give us all an oppurtunity to learn. > > > > > > But whatever inputs you keep coming in with, > > > would be helpful somewhere or the other, > > > so please put the posts whenever you feel > > > its worthwhile for knowledge, on application side. > > > > > > best regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > > <gaurav.ghosh > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Mr.Z.Ansari in his " Vimshottari Dasa-A mystery " says > for > > > > > > Astrological purposes true nodes to be used as they > > behave > > > like > > > > direct planets also... > > > > He has mentioned some interesting inferences:- > > > > 1)Whenever Moon is in conjunction with rahu /ketu, > these > > > planets > > > > become direct & remain so on for 4/5 days. > > > > 2)When Sun is in conjunction with Rahu/Ketu these > become > > > slower in > > > > motion. The conjunction of Sun with nodes is not > > considered > > > > auspicious. > > > > 3)When Rahu & ketu are in square in aspect with Sun, > > they > > > move > > > faster > > > > 4)When Sun is abt 45 degree away frm nodes on either > > side, > > > the > > > > nodes become normal in motion..All these observations > > are > > > made for > > > > True nodes... > > > > Thanq, > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gauravji, > > > > > > > > > > Do we not take our information too from the > > > > > Panchang (Ephemeris) too ? > > > > > The true Nodes are used by the Experts only. > > > > > (For what reasons I shall let you know > > > > > in future mails),but as per your knowledge > > > > > by reading Mr.Ansaris and Mr.KN Rao's > > > > > books, what have we got, what is the line > > > > > of reasoning given by both of them, > > > > > about the application of both Mean and True Rahu, > > > > > where to be used which one and why ? > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Gaurav " > > > <gaurav.ghosh@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji & other members, > > > > > > I was reading a book by Z.Ansari, where he says > True > > > nodes shld > > > > be > > > > > > taken. Mean nodes are used for Panchanga makers & > > its an > === message truncated === Regards, Krishna http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com ______________________________\ ____ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search./shortcuts/#loc_weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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