Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dear All,Namastewould someone of you be so kind to explain the grammatical difference between shama and shanti? Thank youOm ShantiSitara Sie sind Spam leid? Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 advaitin , Sitara Mitali <smitali17 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Namaste > > would someone of you be so kind to explain the grammatical difference between shama and shanti? > > Thank you > > Om Shanti > Sitara > Namaste, Please see Message #28339. The answer to your question as well as much more is there. PraNAms to all advaitins. profvk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Dear Sitara-ji, Both the words are derived from the same verbal root sham which means 'to be or become calm'. A person who has attained shama is referred to in one of the upaniShads as shAnta. So both the words mean the same. Regards, S.N.Sastri advaitin , Sitara Mitali <smitali17 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Namaste > > would someone of you be so kind to explain the grammatical difference between shama and shanti? > > Thank you > > Om Shanti > Sitara > > > > Sie sind Spam leid? Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Namaste Sitaraji: Sometimes we enjoy creating questions for which nobody will be able to provide a satisfactory answer. The question that you have raised fall into this category. In the Vedantic literature, both Shama (Sama) buddhi and Om Shanti are often used. I have not read any reference to " Om Shama " or " Shanti buddhi. " The question why it is so may not be answerable. Swami Sivanandaji's article on " Prerequisites for Liberation " discusses the role of Shama in mind preparation. (http://www.sivanandaonline.org/graphics/information/magazine/html/oct_2003.htm)\ .. Shama is a part of Shat-Sampat or six-fold virtues consist of Shama, Dama, Uparati, Titiksha, Shraddha and Samadhana. These equipments are necessary to calm and discipline the mind. Shama is serenity or tranquility of the mind. I believe that " Om Shanti " is often used as an invocation and as a conclusion of prayer or a meditation session. I don't believe that I have provided a satisfactory answer to your question and hopefully others may be able provide more insights. Warm regards, Ram Chandran advaitin , Sitara Mitali <smitali17 wrote: > > So does shama also mean peace as shanti does? Why we say Om Shanti and not Om Shama? > > Om Shanti > Sitara > > > > > > ________________________________ > Von: snsastri <sn.sastri > An: advaitin > Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 1. April 2010, 15:42:18 Uhr > Betreff: Re: sanskrit: shama/shanti > > > Dear Sitara-ji, > Both the words are derived from the same verbal root sham which means 'to be or become calm'. A person who has attained shama is referred to in one of the upaniShads as shAnta. So both the words mean the same. > Regards, > S.N.Sastri > > advaitin@ s.com, Sitara Mitali <smitali17@ ..> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Namaste > > > > would someone of you be so kind to explain the grammatical difference between shama and shanti? > > > > Thank you > > > > Om Shanti > > Sitara > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Sie sind Spam leid? Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > > http://mail. > > > > > > > > > Sie sind Spam leid? Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz gegen Massenmails. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Namaste, The contextual meaning here may have some significance. 'shama' refers almost exclusively to the state of the 'mind under control.' 'shAnti' can refer not just to the mind, but to the peace/tranquillity all around. One of the dictionary definitions for the repetition (thrice) of the word is to be free from the three-fold perturbations of the body/mind - 'tApa-traya' - Adhi-bhautika, Adhi-daivika, and AdhyAtmika. Regards, Sunder advaitin , " Ram " <ramvchandran wrote: > > Sometimes we enjoy creating questions for which nobody will be able to provide a satisfactory answer. > > ________________________________ > > Von: snsastri <sn.sastri@> > > An: advaitin > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, den 1. April 2010, 15:42:18 Uhr > > Betreff: Re: sanskrit: shama/shanti > > > > Both the words are derived from the same verbal root sham which means 'to be or become calm'. A person who has attained shama is referred to in one of the upaniShads as shAnta. So both the words mean the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Hari Om Sitara ji, Pranaams! The tranquillity of mind achieved thro withdrawal from actions is shama. Amidst actions if you enjoy the same peace of mind it is shanti. One pray/invoke shanti while taking up an endeavour but one has to put effort to control, withdraw from actions for shama. It can not be prayed for. The one for whom shama become natural without effort is said to have achieved yoga. - yogArUDhasya .. BG 6.3. shanti is said to be achieved by keeping the mind on Atma/Lord and renouncing karmaphalas while working. BG 12.12. In Shri Guru Smriti, Br. Pranipata Chaitanya advaitin , " sunderh " <sunderh wrote: > > > > advaitin , " Ram " <ramvchandran@> wrote: > > > ________________________________ > > > Von: snsastri <sn.sastri@> > > > Both the words are derived from the same verbal root sham which means 'to be or become calm'. A person who has attained shama is referred to in one of the upaniShads as shAnta. So both the words mean the same. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 advaitin , Sitara Mitali <smitali17 wrote: > > Dear Sastriji, dear Professor-ji > > Pranams > > thank you for both your replies which helped my understanding. > > So does shama also mean peace as shanti does? Why we say Om Shanti and not Om Shama? > > Om Shanti > Sitara Dear Sitara-ji, Om shAntiH shAntiH shAntih is a mantra appearing in the vedas themselves. This has to be chanted with the prescribed svara. Veda mantras have some sanctity attached to them and should not be substituted by any other sentence even with the same import. Such sentences will not have the same sanctity. Regards, S.N.Sastri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 ----- Forwarded Message ----"Sundaresan, Vidyasankar (GE Infra, Water)" <vidyasankar.sundaresanRam Chandran <ramvchandranFri, April 2, 2010 11:04:23 AMRe: sanskrit: shama/shanti Dear Sri Ram Chandran, Please feel free to forward the following to the advaitin list. The explanation for shama/shAnti is simple from the perspective of Sanskrit grammar. They are related nouns, but their referents are different - shAnti refers to the state of peace, while shama refers to the personal quality of remaining calm and peaceful. The person who exhibits this quality is referred to by the participle/gerund form, shAnta. Similarly, we have dama (personal quality of self-control), dAnta (gerund) and dAnti (state of self-control). Best regards, Vidyasankar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Namaste, The word 'shAnti' is of such profound significance in that it conveys almost the very culmination of spiritual practice, I could not resist quoting one of the best-known mantra-s - Shanti Mantra from Upanishads (Pravargya Mantras) [Taittiriya Aranyaka 4:42:5, of Yajurveda] http://sanskritweb.net/yajurveda/ta-04.pdf 4:42:5 (in devanagari script only, with 'svara'-s) http://www.eaglespace.com/spirit/shanti_mantra.php [this has a link to the audio also] Shanti Mantra - Translation Peace on Earth. Peace in Space. Peace in the Heavens. Peace in all Horizons and Directions. Peace in Fire. Peace in the Air. Peace in the Sun. Peace in the Moon. Peace in the Constellations. Peace in the Waters. Peace in the Plants and Herbs. Peace in the Trees. Peace towards Cattle. Peace towards Goats. Peace towards Horses. Peace towards Mankind. Peace in the Absolute (Brahman). May there be Peace. Only Peace. May that Peace be in Me, Peace Alone. Through that Peace may I confirm Peace in myself, And Peace in all bi-peds and quadru-peds. May there be Peace in me, Peace alone! 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Guest guest Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Sorry for the 'garbled' message! When I tested the message in the box for posting, all the characters showed properly. I guess it was a false notice! Sunder advaitin , " sunderh " <sunderh wrote: >> mahya & #7747; dvipade catu & #7779;pade ca úânti & #7747; karomi > úântirme astu úânti & #7717; || > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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