where the i thought rises -- hur

March 24, 2010

-

Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > believe.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they

> > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > -d-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > >

> > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > >

> > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > >

> > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness

> > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > -d-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar to

> > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the brain.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > >

> > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used.

> > > > >

> > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > >

> > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > > >

> > > > > (nnb)

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > >

> > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if

> > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > >

> > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about

> > > > how this could change.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Nonsense,

> > >

> > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > here on this list.

> > >

> >

> > I'm not a social being.

> >

> > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > until realizing this.

> >

>

> Ok ok, Tim,

>

> you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> professional hands.

>

> Werner

Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

That doesn't make me a " social being " .

One is always alone.

Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

==

I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us

feel

like a separate being.

-geo-

March 24, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they

> > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness

> > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar to

> > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the brain.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - D -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > >

> > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if

> > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > >

> > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about

> > > > > how this could change.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nonsense,

> > > >

> > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > > here on this list.

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'm not a social being.

> > >

> > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > > until realizing this.

> > >

> >

> > Ok ok, Tim,

> >

> > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > professional hands.

> >

> > Werner

>

> Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

>

> That doesn't make me a " social being " .

>

> One is always alone.

>

> Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> ==

> I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us

> feel

> like a separate being.

> -geo-

so not being a social being makes you special?

you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

oh this is rich!

what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

i mean the " us " that you are better than.

love..

..b b.b.

March 24, 2010

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life

> > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness

> > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar

> > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - D -

> > > > > >

> > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > >

> > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if

> > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > >

> > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about

> > > > > how this could change.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nonsense,

> > > >

> > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > > here on this list.

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'm not a social being.

> > >

> > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > > until realizing this.

> > >

> >

> > Ok ok, Tim,

> >

> > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > professional hands.

> >

> > Werner

>

> Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

>

> That doesn't make me a " social being " .

>

> One is always alone.

>

> Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> ==

> I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us

> feel

> like a separate being.

> -geo-

so not being a social being makes you special?

you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

oh this is rich!

what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

i mean the " us " that you are better than.

love..

..b b.b.

Hi barbie!

Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

You with your earings and all....

-geo-

March 24, 2010

-

dan330033

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

>

> these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

>

> it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> have.

> -d-

>

> Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> -geo-

It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

-d-

Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

-geo-

March 24, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

> >

> > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> >

> > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> > have.

> > -d-

> >

> > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > -geo-

>

> It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> -d-

>

> Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> -geo-

>

Nothing of what Dan says, or what Tim says, or what Geo says, is going to change

the actual " location " (or lack thereof) of " the absolute " .

And so, is one going to say to one's mother, " stop calling me 'you', we're not

separate from one another! "

Who cares about the talk?

Or... is there very much a caring about the talk?

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life

> > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness

> > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if

> > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about

> > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > >

> > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > > > here on this list.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > >

> > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > > > until realizing this.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > >

> > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > professional hands.

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

> > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> >

> > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> >

> > One is always alone.

> >

> > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > ==

> > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us

> > feel

> > like a separate being.

> > -geo-

>

> so not being a social being makes you special?

>

> you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

>

> oh this is rich!

>

> what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

>

> i mean the " us " that you are better than.

>

> love..

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Hi barbie!

> Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> You with your earings and all....

> -geo-

so you don't have an answer.

figures.

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

> >

> > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> >

> > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> > have.

> > -d-

> >

> > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > -geo-

>

> It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> -d-

>

> Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> -geo-

especially when they talk about other people talking about God.

:-)

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > Tim G.

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life

> > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate awareness

> > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes similar

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are used.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not), if

> > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible about

> > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > >

> > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > >

> > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > professional hands.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > >

> > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > >

> > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > >

> > > One is always alone.

> > >

> > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > ==

> > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes us

> > > feel

> > > like a separate being.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so not being a social being makes you special?

> >

> > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> >

> > oh this is rich!

> >

> > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> >

> > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> >

> > love..

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Hi barbie!

> > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > You with your earings and all....

> > -geo-

>

> so you don't have an answer.

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

>

What-- is he supposed to know something?

LOL!

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Tim G.

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life

> > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

awareness

> > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

similar

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are

used.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not),

if

> > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible

about

> > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > >

> > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > > professional hands.

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > >

> > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > >

> > > > One is always alone.

> > > >

> > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > ==

> > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes

us

> > > > feel

> > > > like a separate being.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > >

> > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > >

> > > oh this is rich!

> > >

> > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > >

> > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > >

> > > love..

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Hi barbie!

> > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > You with your earings and all....

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so you don't have an answer.

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> What-- is he supposed to know something?

>

> LOL!

did you figure that out all by yourself timmy?

LOL!

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life

> > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are

> > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not),

> > > > > > if

> > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > >

> > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > > > here on this list.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > >

> > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > > > until realizing this.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > >

> > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > professional hands.

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

> > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> >

> > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> >

> > One is always alone.

> >

> > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > ==

> > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes

> > us

> > feel

> > like a separate being.

> > -geo-

>

> so not being a social being makes you special?

>

> you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

>

> oh this is rich!

>

> what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

>

> i mean the " us " that you are better than.

>

> love..

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Hi barbie!

> Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> You with your earings and all....

> -geo-

so you don't have an answer.

figures.

..b b.b.

Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

-geo-

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > Tim G.

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life

> > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you are

> > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is a

> > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are

> > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not),

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for example

> > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > >

> > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and freely

> > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > >

> > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > professional hands.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > >

> > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > >

> > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > >

> > > One is always alone.

> > >

> > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > ==

> > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what makes

> > > us

> > > feel

> > > like a separate being.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so not being a social being makes you special?

> >

> > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> >

> > oh this is rich!

> >

> > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> >

> > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> >

> > love..

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Hi barbie!

> > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > You with your earings and all....

> > -geo-

>

> so you don't have an answer.

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> -geo-

you have a problem staying on point don't you?

figures.

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > -geo-

>

> you have a problem staying on point don't you?

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

>

It does indeed, given the pointlessness of the discussion ;-).

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > -geo-

> >

> > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

>

> It does indeed, given the pointlessness of the discussion ;-).

oh i see..

you the believe then that here's been a point..

with what you've been saying?

something perhaps deep...mystical..transcendent..

sure thing dude.

Gnarly!

LOL!

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > Tim G.

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever

> > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you

> > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is

> > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are

> > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not),

> > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible

> > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > example

> > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > >

> > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and

> > > > > freely

> > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > >

> > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > professional hands.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > >

> > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > >

> > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > >

> > > One is always alone.

> > >

> > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > ==

> > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what

> > > makes

> > > us

> > > feel

> > > like a separate being.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so not being a social being makes you special?

> >

> > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> >

> > oh this is rich!

> >

> > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> >

> > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> >

> > love..

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Hi barbie!

> > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > You with your earings and all....

> > -geo-

>

> so you don't have an answer.

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> -geo-

you have a problem staying on point don't you?

figures.

..b b.b.

I think so, yes.

Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

-geo-

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Tim G.

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you

> > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever

> > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons, that

> > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice these

> > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there is

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of the

> > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are

> > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or not),

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible

> > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and

> > > > > > freely

> > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > >

> > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > > professional hands.

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > >

> > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > >

> > > > One is always alone.

> > > >

> > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > ==

> > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what

> > > > makes

> > > > us

> > > > feel

> > > > like a separate being.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > >

> > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > >

> > > oh this is rich!

> > >

> > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > >

> > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > >

> > > love..

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Hi barbie!

> > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > You with your earings and all....

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so you don't have an answer.

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > -geo-

>

> you have a problem staying on point don't you?

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> I think so, yes.

> Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> -geo-

you have trouble making sense don't you?

figures.

you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

typical of losers worldwide.

what a hero!

hahahaha.

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > Tim G.

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that

> > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever

> > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice

> > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there

> > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are

> > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or

> > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible

> > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and

> > > > > > freely

> > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > >

> > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > > professional hands.

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > >

> > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > >

> > > > One is always alone.

> > > >

> > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > ==

> > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what

> > > > makes

> > > > us

> > > > feel

> > > > like a separate being.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > >

> > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > >

> > > oh this is rich!

> > >

> > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > >

> > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > >

> > > love..

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Hi barbie!

> > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > You with your earings and all....

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so you don't have an answer.

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > -geo-

>

> you have a problem staying on point don't you?

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> I think so, yes.

> Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> -geo-

you have trouble making sense don't you?

figures.

you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

typical of losers worldwide.

what a hero!

hahahaha.

..b b.b.

You mean your social stuff up there?

Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

-geo-

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that

> > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice

> > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as you

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then there

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I " are

> > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or

> > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion possible

> > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and

> > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > >

> > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > >

> > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > >

> > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > ==

> > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what

> > > > > makes

> > > > > us

> > > > > feel

> > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > >

> > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > > >

> > > > oh this is rich!

> > > >

> > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > >

> > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > >

> > > > love..

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > so you don't have an answer.

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > -geo-

> >

> > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > I think so, yes.

> > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > -geo-

>

> you have trouble making sense don't you?

>

> figures.

>

> you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

>

> typical of losers worldwide.

>

> what a hero!

>

> hahahaha.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> You mean your social stuff up there?

> Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> -geo-

nothing philosophical about it.

you're just a loser.

simple.

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that

> > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice

> > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as

> > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of

> > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I "

> > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or

> > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and

> > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > >

> > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > >

> > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > >

> > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > ==

> > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what

> > > > > makes

> > > > > us

> > > > > feel

> > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > >

> > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > > >

> > > > oh this is rich!

> > > >

> > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > >

> > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > >

> > > > love..

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > so you don't have an answer.

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > -geo-

> >

> > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > I think so, yes.

> > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > -geo-

>

> you have trouble making sense don't you?

>

> figures.

>

> you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

>

> typical of losers worldwide.

>

> what a hero!

>

> hahahaha.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> You mean your social stuff up there?

> Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> -geo-

nothing philosophical about it.

you're just a loser.

simple.

..b b.b.

Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

-geo-

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that

> > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice

> > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as

> > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product of

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I "

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or

> > > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely and

> > > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself into

> > > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > > ==

> > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is what

> > > > > > makes

> > > > > > us

> > > > > > feel

> > > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > > >

> > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > > > >

> > > > > oh this is rich!

> > > > >

> > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > > >

> > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > > >

> > > > > love..

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > so you don't have an answer.

> > > >

> > > > figures.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > I think so, yes.

> > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > > -geo-

> >

> > you have trouble making sense don't you?

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

> >

> > typical of losers worldwide.

> >

> > what a hero!

> >

> > hahahaha.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You mean your social stuff up there?

> > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> > -geo-

>

> nothing philosophical about it.

>

> you're just a loser.

>

> simple.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

> -geo-

feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado.

i mean you are what you are and that's ok.

:-)

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

> >

> > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> >

> > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> > have.

> > -d-

> >

> > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > -geo-

>

> It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> -d-

>

> Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> -geo-

the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

what can't be talked about is silence.

undisturbed.

- d -

March 25, 2010

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas

> > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs

> > > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice

> > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as

> > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it

> > > > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product

> > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I "

> > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or

> > > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself

> > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > > ==

> > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is

> > > > > > what

> > > > > > makes

> > > > > > us

> > > > > > feel

> > > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > > >

> > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > > > >

> > > > > oh this is rich!

> > > > >

> > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > > >

> > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > > >

> > > > > love..

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > so you don't have an answer.

> > > >

> > > > figures.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > I think so, yes.

> > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > > -geo-

> >

> > you have trouble making sense don't you?

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

> >

> > typical of losers worldwide.

> >

> > what a hero!

> >

> > hahahaha.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > You mean your social stuff up there?

> > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> > -geo-

>

> nothing philosophical about it.

>

> you're just a loser.

>

> simple.

>

> .b b.b.

>

> Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

> -geo-

feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado.

i mean you are what you are and that's ok.

:-)

..b b.b.

:>))

UUffffaaa.....It was really hot in there...

-geo-

March 25, 2010

> > >

> > > Hi barbie!

> > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > You with your earings and all....

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so you don't have an answer.

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > -geo-

>

> you have a problem staying on point don't you?

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

P: Geo, you're such a wonderful guy! A little

gullible, though! But since you liked the

story of my meeting Bob in California, let me

tell you about when I met God in Chicago. Well,

you know, when you meet God, you never meet him

completely, or in a particular place. Let's

faced it, the guy is " not all there " as in " not

playing with a full deck of cards. " Let me tell

you buddy, it's quite shocking, mind rocking indeed

to meet the guy " in charge, " and find out his mind has

gone quantum theory.

I was lucky that it wasn't me who met him, but a

guy who loves to impersonate me. Well, is a long

story, so if you have the time, and like scary

" tails, " please don't think of a plate of " rat

tales " in spaghetti sauce, here is a link to my

meeting with God:

enlightenedfiction/message/92

>

March 25, 2010

-

dan330033

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:39 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

> >

> > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> >

> > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> > have.

> > -d-

> >

> > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > -geo-

>

> It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> -d-

>

> Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> -geo-

the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

what can't be talked about is silence.

undisturbed.

- d -

But you are talking about! See how it works?

-geo-

March 25, 2010

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:04 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Hi barbie!

> > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > You with your earings and all....

> > > -geo-

> >

> > so you don't have an answer.

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > -geo-

>

> you have a problem staying on point don't you?

>

> figures.

>

> .b b.b.

P: Geo, you're such a wonderful guy! A little

gullible, though! But since you liked the

story of my meeting Bob in California...

geo: I thought it was true. Who am I to guess when you are lying?

No wonder bbb thought I was off subject.

-geo-

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> dan330033

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:39 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > dan330033

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

> > >

> > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > >

> > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> > > have.

> > > -d-

> > >

> > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > -d-

> >

> > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> > -geo-

>

> the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

>

> what can't be talked about is silence.

>

> undisturbed.

>

> - d -

>

> But you are talking about! See how it works?

> -geo-

No, I'm not.

That's where you miss.

- D -

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