where the i thought rises -- hur

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > dan330033

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

> > >

> > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > >

> > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> > > have.

> > > -d-

> > >

> > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > -geo-

> >

> > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > -d-

> >

> > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> > -geo-

>

> the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

>

> what can't be talked about is silence.

>

> undisturbed.

>

> - d -

it seems to disturb you though.

you can't shut up about it.

LOL!

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:04 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > so you don't have an answer.

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > -geo-

> >

> > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: Geo, you're such a wonderful guy! A little

> gullible, though! But since you liked the

> story of my meeting Bob in California...

>

> geo: I thought it was true. Who am I to guess when you are lying?

> No wonder bbb thought I was off subject.

> -geo-

P: Haha! That's why I called you gullible,

you think there is something called truth.

Everything is fantasy, Geo. What we call

truth are lies that don't seem to change

too fast. )

>

..

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that negate

> > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you notice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and " I "

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must go "

> > > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others " (or

> > > > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like for

> > > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself

> > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > > > ==

> > > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > us

> > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social beings?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > oh this is rich!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > love..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > so you don't have an answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > figures.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> > > >

> > > > figures.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > I think so, yes.

> > > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > you have trouble making sense don't you?

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

> > >

> > > typical of losers worldwide.

> > >

> > > what a hero!

> > >

> > > hahahaha.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > You mean your social stuff up there?

> > > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> > > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> > > -geo-

> >

> > nothing philosophical about it.

> >

> > you're just a loser.

> >

> > simple.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

> > -geo-

>

> feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado.

>

> i mean you are what you are and that's ok.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

> :>))

> UUffffaaa.....It was really hot in there...

> -geo-

>

good deal.

isn't that better?

thousands of thousands have come out of the closet similarly.

in California and gay old New York in particular.

so express your new " out of the closet " self now geoparado..

wear some flowers in your hair.

no one will laugh.

please stay in Brazil though.

we have quite enough of you " boys " already.

:-)

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

> > >

> > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> > > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> > > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> > > -geo-

> >

> > the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

> >

> > what can't be talked about is silence.

> >

> > undisturbed.

> >

> > - d -

>

> it seems to disturb you though.

>

> you can't shut up about it.

>

> LOL!

>

> .b b.b.

P: Ain't that something! He

heard silence once, and prefers to

talk about it than to hear it again.

What is going on? Is thinking about

absence, absence of thought? Bwahaha!

>

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > dan330033

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:39 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > dan330033

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas that you believe.

> > > >

> > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the believer.

> > > >

> > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs whatever life they seem to

> > > > have.

> > > > -d-

> > > >

> > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your " in there.

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > -d-

> > >

> > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> > > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> > > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> > > -geo-

> >

> > the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

> >

> > what can't be talked about is silence.

> >

> > undisturbed.

> >

> > - d -

> >

> > But you are talking about! See how it works?

> > -geo-

>

> No, I'm not.

>

> That's where you miss.

>

> - D -

no dabbo.

geo is right on the money there.

that's what you miss.

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> > > >

> > > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> > > > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> > > > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

> > >

> > > what can't be talked about is silence.

> > >

> > > undisturbed.

> > >

> > > - d -

> >

> > it seems to disturb you though.

> >

> > you can't shut up about it.

> >

> > LOL!

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: Ain't that something! He

> heard silence once, and prefers to

> talk about it than to hear it again.

>

> What is going on? Is thinking about

> absence, absence of thought? Bwahaha!

:-)

true absence is where we are..

at that cosmic coffee shop.

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> > > >

> > > > the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

> > > >

> > > > what can't be talked about is silence.

> > > >

> > > > undisturbed.

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > > But you are talking about! See how it works?

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > No, I'm not.

> > >

> > > That's where you miss.

> > >

> > > - D -

>

> >

> > no dabbo.

> >

> > geo is right on the money there.

> >

> > that's what you miss.

> >

> > .b b.b.

P: Nah, he ain't missing it. He just

> want you to think that his comepullanemulsion

> is not happening.

> >

>

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote:

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Here you seem to be talking about the absolute, the ultimate.

> > > > > So how does it sound to say " your absolute " and " my absolute " ?

> > > > > Well... some people talk about my god...dont they?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > the absolute you can talk about, is yours.

> > > >

> > > > what can't be talked about is silence.

> > > >

> > > > undisturbed.

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > > it seems to disturb you though.

> > >

> > > you can't shut up about it.

> > >

> > > LOL!

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > P: Ain't that something! He

> > heard silence once, and prefers to

> > talk about it than to hear it again.

> >

> > What is going on? Is thinking about

> > absence, absence of thought? Bwahaha!

>

> :-)

>

> true absence is where we are..

>

> at that cosmic coffee shop.

>

> .b b.b.

Hehe! I feel so close to you now

that we didn't meet! It's true,

absence makes the heart feel fonder! )

>

March 25, 2010

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:59 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> cerosoul

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:04 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > so you don't have an answer.

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > -geo-

> >

> > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> >

> > figures.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> P: Geo, you're such a wonderful guy! A little

> gullible, though! But since you liked the

> story of my meeting Bob in California...

>

> geo: I thought it was true. Who am I to guess when you are lying?

> No wonder bbb thought I was off subject.

> -geo-

P: Haha! That's why I called you gullible,

you think there is something called truth.

Everything is fantasy, Geo. What we call

truth are lies that don't seem to change

too fast. )

geo: Ohhh...I see! Now I see it, yes!!!

March 25, 2010

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:03 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > negate

> > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like

> > > > > > > > > > > > > neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > notice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and

> > > > > > > > > > > > " I "

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must

> > > > > > > > > > > go "

> > > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others "

> > > > > > > > > > > (or

> > > > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself

> > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > > > ==

> > > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > us

> > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social

> > > > > > beings?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > oh this is rich!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > love..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > so you don't have an answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > figures.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> > > >

> > > > figures.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > I think so, yes.

> > > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > you have trouble making sense don't you?

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

> > >

> > > typical of losers worldwide.

> > >

> > > what a hero!

> > >

> > > hahahaha.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > You mean your social stuff up there?

> > > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> > > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> > > -geo-

> >

> > nothing philosophical about it.

> >

> > you're just a loser.

> >

> > simple.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

> > -geo-

>

> feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado.

>

> i mean you are what you are and that's ok.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

> :>))

> UUffffaaa.....It was really hot in there...

> -geo-

>

good deal.

isn't that better?

thousands of thousands have come out of the closet similarly.

in California and gay old New York in particular.

so express your new " out of the closet " self now geoparado..

wear some flowers in your hair.

no one will laugh.

please stay in Brazil though.

we have quite enough of you " boys " already.

:-)

..b b.b.

OK...I'll try to put it in words...

" There is no other " !!!

Ahh..I feel much better now.

-geo-

March 25, 2010

-

geo

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:20 PM

Re: Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

-

BobN

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:03 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > negate

> > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like

> > > > > > > > > > > > > neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > notice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and

> > > > > > > > > > > > " I "

> > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must

> > > > > > > > > > > go "

> > > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others "

> > > > > > > > > > > (or

> > > > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself

> > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > > > ==

> > > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is

> > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > us

> > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social

> > > > > > beings?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > oh this is rich!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > love..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > so you don't have an answer.

> > > > >

> > > > > figures.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> > > >

> > > > figures.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > I think so, yes.

> > > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > you have trouble making sense don't you?

> > >

> > > figures.

> > >

> > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

> > >

> > > typical of losers worldwide.

> > >

> > > what a hero!

> > >

> > > hahahaha.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > You mean your social stuff up there?

> > > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> > > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> > > -geo-

> >

> > nothing philosophical about it.

> >

> > you're just a loser.

> >

> > simple.

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

> > -geo-

>

> feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado.

>

> i mean you are what you are and that's ok.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

> :>))

> UUffffaaa.....It was really hot in there...

> -geo-

>

good deal.

isn't that better?

thousands of thousands have come out of the closet similarly.

in California and gay old New York in particular.

so express your new " out of the closet " self now geoparado..

wear some flowers in your hair.

no one will laugh.

please stay in Brazil though.

we have quite enough of you " boys " already.

:-)

..b b.b.

OK...I'll try to put it in words...

" There is no other " !!!

Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

heard me!!

-geo-

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> " There is no other " !!!

> Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> heard me!!

> -geo-

>

LOL...

" There is no other! "

Does anybody out there hear me?

Hellooooo...

Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

;-D.

March 25, 2010

-

Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:52 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> " There is no other " !!!

> Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> heard me!!

> -geo-

>

LOL...

" There is no other! "

Does anybody out there hear me?

Hellooooo...

Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

;-D.

Because the other is bbb... and he is dead!

LOL LOL

-gewo-

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:03 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > negate

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > " I "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must

> > > > > > > > > > > > go "

> > > > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others "

> > > > > > > > > > > > (or

> > > > > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself

> > > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > > > > ==

> > > > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > > us

> > > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social

> > > > > > > beings?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > oh this is rich!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > love..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so you don't have an answer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > figures.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> > > > >

> > > > > figures.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think so, yes.

> > > > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > you have trouble making sense don't you?

> > > >

> > > > figures.

> > > >

> > > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

> > > >

> > > > typical of losers worldwide.

> > > >

> > > > what a hero!

> > > >

> > > > hahahaha.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > You mean your social stuff up there?

> > > > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> > > > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > nothing philosophical about it.

> > >

> > > you're just a loser.

> > >

> > > simple.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

> > > -geo-

> >

> > feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado.

> >

> > i mean you are what you are and that's ok.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > :>))

> > UUffffaaa.....It was really hot in there...

> > -geo-

> >

>

> good deal.

>

> isn't that better?

>

> thousands of thousands have come out of the closet similarly.

>

> in California and gay old New York in particular.

>

> so express your new " out of the closet " self now geoparado..

>

> wear some flowers in your hair.

>

> no one will laugh.

>

> please stay in Brazil though.

>

> we have quite enough of you " boys " already.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

> OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> " There is no other " !!!

> Ahh..I feel much better now.

> -geo-

so you feel better now than at " other " times huh?

and better than others who are not others too huh?

yep you make sense like dabbo do.

you boys sound like an out of tune didgeridoo.

blow hard now!

LOL!

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> geo

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:20 PM

> Re: Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> -

> BobN

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 2:03 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > BobN

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:48 AM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > BobN

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 11:03 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > BobN

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:38 PM

> > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > BobN

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:59 PM

> > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:24 PM

> > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > BobN

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:09 PM

> > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > -

> > > > > > > > Tim G.

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:23 PM

> > > > > > > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 "

> > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > <inandor@>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are just giving me words that represent ideas

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > these beliefs don't exist separate from you, the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > believer.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is your awareness that gives these beliefs

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > life

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > they

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seem to have.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your? Your awareness? I would not add that " your "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > It's just colloquial speech, Geo.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > What are you, the advaita word police?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (I would not sign " geo " to my post ...)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > it doesn't matter that they are beliefs that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > negate

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and assume separately existing things, like

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > neurons,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > supposedly produce awareness.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because awareness is right there, now, as you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > notice

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs, which are thoughts, which are only there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > as

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aware of them.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -d-

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The same. If you say " you are aware of them " then

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > there

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > split as some you and some awareness. Then it

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > becomes

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the popular way awareness is used: some by-product

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > brain.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense. Are you so taken in by words?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Constantly in these messages words like " you " and

> > > > > > > > > > > > > " I "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > > > > used.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you scared of them?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Do they disturb your reality?

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > (nnb)

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > He said something like " the addiction to words must

> > > > > > > > > > > > go "

> > > > > > > > > > > > (paraphrased) on the Nondualfuel list.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Words can make one feel as though there are " others "

> > > > > > > > > > > > (or

> > > > > > > > > > > > not),

> > > > > > > > > > > > if

> > > > > > > > > > > > one's reality is being defined by words.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously, there's no verbal formula or suggestion

> > > > > > > > > > > > possible

> > > > > > > > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > > > > > how this could change.

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Nonsense,

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > we are social beings and we communicate via words like

> > > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > example

> > > > > > > > > > > here on this list.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I'm not a social being.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > What's funny is that I was never able to socialize sanely

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > freely

> > > > > > > > > > until realizing this.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Ok ok, Tim,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > you are a sociopath and so you better should pass youreself

> > > > > > > > > into

> > > > > > > > > professional hands.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Werner

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Clearly, I'm here socializing on this list.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > That doesn't make me a " social being " .

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > One is always alone.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Aloneness is the Fact of existence.

> > > > > > > > ==

> > > > > > > > I am not a social being either. That aspect - the social- is

> > > > > > > > what

> > > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > > us

> > > > > > > > feel

> > > > > > > > like a separate being.

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > so not being a social being makes you special?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > you fell that you are separate from others who are social

> > > > > > > beings?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > oh this is rich!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > what " us " is not a group of separate beings?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > i mean the " us " that you are better than.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > love..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi barbie!

> > > > > > > Pete told us all about your meeting in CA.

> > > > > > > You with your earings and all....

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so you don't have an answer.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > figures.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Pete said you almost smacked the waiter for his insolence..

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > you have a problem staying on point don't you?

> > > > >

> > > > > figures.

> > > > >

> > > > > .b b.b.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think so, yes.

> > > > > Singing the Canadian (hino?) with Beatles tunes...eh?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > you have trouble making sense don't you?

> > > >

> > > > figures.

> > > >

> > > > you need to distract with personal off point nonsense?

> > > >

> > > > typical of losers worldwide.

> > > >

> > > > what a hero!

> > > >

> > > > hahahaha.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > You mean your social stuff up there?

> > > > Too philosophical to decipher this time of the night...

> > > > Maybe some other time....sorry...dont be too sad...

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > nothing philosophical about it.

> > >

> > > you're just a loser.

> > >

> > > simple.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Buuuaaahhhh...- geo on his way to the closet....

> > > -geo-

> >

> > feel free to come out of the closet anytime geoparado.

> >

> > i mean you are what you are and that's ok.

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

> >

> > :>))

> > UUffffaaa.....It was really hot in there...

> > -geo-

> >

>

> good deal.

>

> isn't that better?

>

> thousands of thousands have come out of the closet similarly.

>

> in California and gay old New York in particular.

>

> so express your new " out of the closet " self now geoparado..

>

> wear some flowers in your hair.

>

> no one will laugh.

>

> please stay in Brazil though.

>

> we have quite enough of you " boys " already.

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

>

> OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> " There is no other " !!!

> Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> heard me!!

> -geo-

gee geoparado..

i heard you the first time.

well that's what makes this ol' world go 'round.

different strokes for different folks.

aren't you glad we aren't all one?

:-)

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:52 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> > " There is no other " !!!

> > Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> > heard me!!

> > -geo-

> >

>

> LOL...

>

> " There is no other! "

>

> Does anybody out there hear me?

>

> Hellooooo...

>

> Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

>

> ;-D.

>

> Because the other is bbb... and he is dead!

> LOL LOL

> -gewo-

so they sell big Budweisers down there too!

LOL!

..b b.b.

March 25, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:52 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> > " There is no other " !!!

> > Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> > heard me!!

> > -geo-

> >

>

> LOL...

>

> " There is no other! "

>

> Does anybody out there hear me?

>

> Hellooooo...

>

> Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

>

> ;-D.

>

> Because the other is bbb... and he is dead!

> LOL LOL

> -gewo-

>

He's a strange aspect of my being.

Like all other words, however, " he " comes and goes.

March 26, 2010

-

Tim G.

Nisargadatta

Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:39 PM

Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:52 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> > " There is no other " !!!

> > Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> > heard me!!

> > -geo-

> >

>

> LOL...

>

> " There is no other! "

>

> Does anybody out there hear me?

>

> Hellooooo...

>

> Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

>

> ;-D.

>

> Because the other is bbb... and he is dead!

> LOL LOL

> -gewo-

>

He's a strange aspect of my being.

Like all other words, however, " he " comes and goes.

-tim-

He comes and goes in realation to what?

-geo-

March 26, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> Tim G.

> Nisargadatta

> Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:39 PM

> Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:52 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> > > " There is no other " !!!

> > > Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> > > heard me!!

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > LOL...

> >

> > " There is no other! "

> >

> > Does anybody out there hear me?

> >

> > Hellooooo...

> >

> > Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

> >

> > ;-D.

> >

> > Because the other is bbb... and he is dead!

> > LOL LOL

> > -gewo-

> >

>

> He's a strange aspect of my being.

>

> Like all other words, however, " he " comes and goes.

> -tim-

>

> He comes and goes in realation to what?

> -geo-

>

His words are being read, or his words aren't being read.

No relation is suggested.

March 26, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:52 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> > > " There is no other " !!!

> > > Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> > > heard me!!

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > LOL...

> >

> > " There is no other! "

> >

> > Does anybody out there hear me?

> >

> > Hellooooo...

> >

> > Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

> >

> > ;-D.

> >

> > Because the other is bbb... and he is dead!

> > LOL LOL

> > -gewo-

> >

>

> He's a strange aspect of my being.

>

> Like all other words, however, " he " comes and goes.

he's strange?

and for you the dead " come and go " ?

my oh my.

that's not strange for you?

that's some aspect.

" your " being?

Goddamn you're a self centered creature.

LOL!

..b b.b.

March 26, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > Tim G.

> > Nisargadatta

> > Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:39 PM

> > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > Tim G.

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:52 PM

> > > Re: where the " i thought " rises -- hur

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > OK...I'll try to put it in words...

> > > > " There is no other " !!!

> > > > Ahh..I feel much better now....now that you

> > > > heard me!!

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > LOL...

> > >

> > > " There is no other! "

> > >

> > > Does anybody out there hear me?

> > >

> > > Hellooooo...

> > >

> > > Dammit, why don't I get a feeling as if I'm being heard by an other?!?

> > >

> > > ;-D.

> > >

> > > Because the other is bbb... and he is dead!

> > > LOL LOL

> > > -gewo-

> > >

> >

> > He's a strange aspect of my being.

> >

> > Like all other words, however, " he " comes and goes.

> > -tim-

> >

> > He comes and goes in realation to what?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> His words are being read, or his words aren't being read.

>

> No relation is suggested.

maybe not but what about his realation?

isn't he real for enough for you to realte to?

:-)

..b b.b.

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