Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Aggressive speech reflects unhappiness of spirit. There is no " correcting " an investment in dukkha. One observes it, and moves on. - Dan - superficial love and related attachments to an imaginary world...means, ego....is also of aggressivity.....envelopped only in some meaningless love bubbles.... Marc Ps: moving on?.... where?... is there a place to move on for " non-aggressive " people?... this your new site/group?... for all pseudo advaitins?... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > I would love to be on a *spiritual* site where the members leave their dirty boots outside and don't trample in and on beautiful minds. > > > > > > It's heartbreaking. > > > > > > ~A > > > > P: Wake up! Neither you, nor Dan have a beautiful > > mind. If you can be offended, you have a plain, > > ordinary mind. > > > > I know this is bridget's under the water already -- still: > > If we did what Anna suggests - leave our dirty boots outside > the forum - there would of course just be beautiful minds in > side - although it would only be half minds - half wits :-)) > > -Lene > Imagine walking into an ashram, a church, a temple, a synagogue, or even your own home. You expect peace and a moment to be able to get away from the *real world* (do I need to get into a litany of what a real world is?). You take off your coat and sit down, someone comes barging in with a gun, and threatens you because you managed to be *there*? Quick, how are you going to react? I'm just good and tired of folks throwing up the nondual card as if that were everything. It isn't. Life is and creating a peaceful coexistence is. Ahh, but just so you know, I know, nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition. It just shouldn't come from *spiritual* finders. ~A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > and have no compulsion, right? > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > That's good enough for me. > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > If that's the case with you, too... great :-). If you don't have a compulsion, have no problems... fantastic. Just say so. P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most of the time. But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > If that's the case with you, too... great :-). If you don't have a compulsion, have no problems... fantastic. Just say so. > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > of the time. But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. Yes indeed, and I am one of those bitchers. Werner > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > If that's the case with you, too... great :-). If you don't have a compulsion, have no problems... fantastic. Just say so. > > > > > Compulsion? You feel you don't have? Get real Tim. > > Seriously. > > ~A > I don't exist in time, Anna. There's no compulsion here, now. Seriously. I'm real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > of the time. A good thing :-). > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. I do what I please. It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > of the time. > > A good thing :-). > > > > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? > > That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. > > I do what I please. > > It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. > tim may be right. i considered becoming a guru once but when i realized how much love i'd have to give, i realized i don't really like random people that much anyway. so i'd rather bs about nonduality than hug miserable seekers who want their shakti released from the pain of existence. take two aspirins please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > and have no compulsion, right? > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > That's good enough for me. > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > ..... > oh wow...tim you're da man...but please stop speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " since there are plenty others who are doing so already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > of the time. > > A good thing :-). > > > > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? > > That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. > > I do what I please. > > It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. P: Get real, since you said you're real. If no one had gotten on your case, you still would be posting like a maniac. Don't worry, we ain't sending you a bill. And you don't do as you please, you do as you're allowed by circumstances. There is no free will. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > > of the time. > > > > A good thing :-). > > > > > > > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > > > What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? > > > > That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. > > > > I do what I please. > > > > It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. > > P: Get real, since you said you're real. If no one had gotten > on your case, you still would be posting like a maniac. Mmkay, Pete. Enjoy your beliefs, whatever they are, stranger. Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > .... > > > oh wow...tim you're da man...but please stop speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " since there are plenty others who are doing so already. > I wasn't aware I was speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " , whatever that is. I apologize to " Consciousness " for speaking on its behalf, and hope it forgives me. If not, I challenge it to a sword-fight at dawn tomorrow. Be there, " Consciousness " , or be " Unconscious " . Cheers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2010 Report Share Posted March 3, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > > .... > > > > > oh wow...tim you're da man...but please stop speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " since there are plenty others who are doing so already. > > > > I wasn't aware I was speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " , whatever that is. > > I apologize to " Consciousness " for speaking on its behalf, and hope it forgives me. > > If not, I challenge it to a sword-fight at dawn tomorrow. Be there, " Consciousness " , or be " Unconscious " . > > Cheers... > Mr Big C said it's ok...its lawyers are advising about the brand name protection and all that legal stuff...then Mr C mumbled something like, " thus the subconscious mind reveals itself to the other consciouss minds. unfolding of not-so-apparent mystery though this little spot on the vast net wilderness. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Aggressive speech reflects unhappiness of spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no " correcting " an investment in dukkha. > > > > > > > > > > > > One observes it, and moves on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > P: Don't be a pussy, Dan. We're giving you > > > > > tough love, not soft hate. > > > > > > > > D: You know what you're doing. It's not loving. > > > > > > > > And it's not wise. > > > > > > > > I won't pretend, and get with your program. > > > > > > > > The only " we " I see using negative, disrespectful name > > > > calling is you and Werner. Additionally, " pussy " used > > > > as a pejorative disrespects women, just as " retard " disrespects > > > > people dealing with mental retardation. > > > > > > > > I'm happy to set up an alternative site that won't > > > > have aggressive, disrespectful speech masquerading > > > > as some kind of pretend wisdom. Pretending not to care > > > > isn't love, and it isn't wisdom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would love to be on a *spiritual* site where the members leave their dirty boots outside and don't trample in and on beautiful minds. > > > > > > It's heartbreaking. > > > > > > ~A > > > > P: Wake up! Neither you, nor Dan have a beautiful > > mind. If you can be offended, you have a plain, > > ordinary mind. > > > > > > is it bad to enjoy the guilty pleasure of nondual banter...it reminds me of watching don rickles in johhny carson show. Not quite Don Rickles. Don Rickles is funny. And he puts himself down, too - so there is an equality to his humor and point of view. He gives respect to the people he roasts. Maybe you could invite him to this list. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , Marc <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Aggressive speech reflects unhappiness of spirit. > > There is no " correcting " an investment in dukkha. > > One observes it, and moves on. > > - Dan - > > > > superficial love and related attachments to an imaginary world...means, ego....is also of aggressivity.....envelopped only in some meaningless love bubbles.... > > > > > Marc > > > Ps: moving on?.... > > where?... > > is there a place to move on for " non-aggressive " people?... > > this your new site/group?... > > for all pseudo advaitins?... > > lol I move on without going anywhere. Don't see anything to be aggressive toward. Do you? - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > If that's the case with you, too... great :-). If you don't have a compulsion, have no problems... fantastic. Just say so. > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > of the time. But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. D: You are pathologizing. Tim communicates. That's all. You count the number of posts. Posts are just word communication, and that's all that's happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > of the time. > > A good thing :-). > > > > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? > > That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. > > I do what I please. > > It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. That's clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > > of the time. > > > > A good thing :-). > > > > > > > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > > > What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? > > > > That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. > > > > I do what I please. > > > > It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. > > That's clear. > Well, " I do what I please " might more accurately read, " I do what I do " . Whatever that is, it's " done and gone " before anyone can talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > > > If that's the case with you, too... great :-). If you don't have a compulsion, have no problems... fantastic. Just say so. > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > of the time. But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > D: You are pathologizing. > > Tim communicates. > > That's all. > > You count the number of posts. > > Posts are just word communication, and that's all that's > happening. > Pete says above that he's contented and serene most of the time, then he says that he " helped me get rid of my problem " with his bitching. Apparently, something about my posts (at whatever time he's referring to) made him feel inadequate, or otherwise disturbed the contentment and serenity he says he " feels most of the time " . As far as I'm concerned, it's all past, and all irrelevant. People get very worked up about the past, about what isn't here. Makes you wonder if they pay any attention at all to what *is* here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > > .... > > > > > oh wow...tim you're da man...but please stop speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " since there are plenty others who are doing so already. > > > > I wasn't aware I was speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " , whatever that is. > > I apologize to " Consciousness " for speaking on its behalf, and hope it forgives me. > > If not, I challenge it to a sword-fight at dawn tomorrow. Be there, " Consciousness " , or be " Unconscious " . > > Cheers... P: Big Smile! Now that's a good one. Could you utube that? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > > of the time. > > > > A good thing :-). > > > > > > > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > > > What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? > > > > That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. > > > > I do what I please. > > > > It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. > > > > tim may be right. i considered becoming a guru once but when i realized how much love i'd have to give, i realized i don't really like random people that much anyway. so i'd rather bs about nonduality than hug miserable seekers who want their shakti released from the pain of existence. take two aspirins please. Instead of being a loving guru, you can always " help " people by bitching at them. You've got some great models on this list. Then you don't have to worry about yucky stuff like caring. - D - P.S. The best way to prove you're not a guru is to start using capital letters. And don't forget that you can use your list to create a psychic link and beam your love to your students instead of having to meet in person. You know the ones I'm talking about. They are asking for your love, they just don't like to come right out and say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > > of the time. > > > > A good thing :-). > > > > > > > > But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > > > What makes you so sure it had to do with bitching? > > > > That's a groundless assumption, and quite honestly a ridiculous one. > > > > I do what I please. > > > > It has nothing to do with " others " who " helped me " somehow. > > P: Get real, since you said you're real. If no one had gotten > on your case, you still would be posting like a maniac. > Don't worry, we ain't sending you a bill. And you don't > do as you please, you do as you're allowed by circumstances. > There is no free will. Posts are just words typed on a computer. Pete. Stop counting the number of posts. It gets compulsive. And then, you know what happens. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " Hur Guler " <hurg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > > .... > > > > > oh wow...tim you're da man...but please stop speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " since there are plenty others who are doing so already. > > > > I wasn't aware I was speaking on behalf of " Consciousness " , whatever that is. > > I apologize to " Consciousness " for speaking on its behalf, and hope it forgives me. > > If not, I challenge it to a sword-fight at dawn tomorrow. Be there, " Consciousness " , or be " Unconscious " . > > Cheers... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: So let me understand, if I talk about someone's > > > > > compulsion, I'm being aggressive, must have angry > > > > > feelings, and must have a compulsion myself? > > > > > > > > Do you have a compulsion, Pete? > > > > > > > > > But when you accuse me of having a non-specify > > > > > compulsion, you are being nice, feeling cool > > > > > and have no compulsion, right? > > > > > > > > I don't feel as though I have any compulsion. > > > > > > > > That's good enough for me. > > > > > > > > If someone else claims to see a compulsion that I don't feel I have, all I can do is assume they're projecting something of their own onto me. > > > > > > > > If I'm happy, well-adjusted and content, and someone tells me " man, you're just miserable, dude... here, try this " -- am I supposed to buy what they say, and try it? > > > > > > > > As far as I know, I'm here, now, 24/7, " with myself " , and know what's going on here all the time. > > > > > > > > And so, nobody has anything to say about me that I don't already know. > > > > > > > > If that's the case with you, too... great :-). If you don't have a compulsion, have no problems... fantastic. Just say so. > > > > > > P: I don't have a compulsion, Tim. I'm contented and serene most > > > of the time. But you used to have a preaching posting compulsion > > > until, we, the posters, helped you get rid of it with our bitching. > > > > D: You are pathologizing. > > > > Tim communicates. > > > > That's all. > > > > You count the number of posts. > > > > Posts are just word communication, and that's all that's > > happening. > > > > Pete says above that he's contented and serene most of the time, then he says that he " helped me get rid of my problem " with his bitching. > > Apparently, something about my posts (at whatever time he's referring to) made him feel inadequate, or otherwise disturbed the contentment and serenity he says he " feels most of the time " . > > As far as I'm concerned, it's all past, and all irrelevant. > > People get very worked up about the past, about what isn't here. > > Makes you wonder if they pay any attention at all to what *is* here. Good point. One of the excellent possibilities of this list. To notice what is past, and understand that what is past, isn't. - D - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " anna " <kailashana wrote: > > I'm just good and tired of folks throwing up the nondual card as if > that were everything. It isn't. Life is and creating a peaceful > coexistence is. Well, Anna, you're going to get " nondual talk " on " nondual lists " . Complaining about it is as silly as complaining about stamp-collecting talk on a stamp-collecting forum. The Internet is a big place. Go where you're interested. Stop complaining. I'm good and tired of complaints about nondual talk on nondual lists. Quite frankly, it's stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > .............. And don't forget that you can use your list to create a psychic link and beam your love to your students instead of having to meet in person. You know the ones I'm talking about. They are asking for your love, they just don't like to come right out and say it... > I know that posters usually go easy on the moderator since no one wants to risk it but asking for my love???? I don't have the time for giving love since i'm so occupied begging for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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