Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

February 28, 2010

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julesmiel

Nisargadatta

Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:06 AM

Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

> The feeling of 'being in charge', or 'not being in charge' -- are you > in

> charge of that, of which one is there (or not there)?

Nope. Funny stuff! Not in charge. Glad I noticed.

And when I notice that, a new fear steps up to replace the old one. Next up:

Julie is afraid of blowing out of her body. This is why people spend years

in therapy. The fear is endless! But it must not be.

Julie

The next fear is exhausting all doubts and not having anything to talk

about.

-geo-

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February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

> Must you send three times each post?

> -geo-

Geo, when I'm worried about your being mean to anyone, that's a habituated

mechanism of the organism? And if so, I was already told that by no one, and I

didn't need you to tell me. Identity-boggling as I sit here nursing a baby, for

chrissake.

All emotion sensors are switched to on in the mother, but maybe it's just a

sensor. Still in the mud.

Julie

February 28, 2010

Organism = organized

It is not organized. The source is not organized. Form appears as

organization.

Julie?, filed under J

Nisargadatta , " julesmiel " <julesmiel wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > Must you send three times each post?

> > -geo-

>

> Geo, when I'm worried about your being mean to anyone, that's a habituated

mechanism of the organism? And if so, I was already told that by no one, and I

didn't need you to tell me. Identity-boggling as I sit here nursing a baby, for

chrissake.

>

> All emotion sensors are switched to on in the mother, but maybe it's just a

sensor. Still in the mud.

>

> Julie

>

February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> wwoehr

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what is

> > > > that? Who

> > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > To remember is to dismember.

> > >

> > > - D -

> > >

> >

> > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> >

> > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> >

> > No remembering, no dismembering.

> >

>

> Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

>

> But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in tongues and

> who sound like retards living on an island far away from living human beings

> of flesh and blood.

>

> Werner

>

> Must you send three times each post?

> -geo-

>

Geo,

One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

Click it !

On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest happenings.

Read messages only on the web'.

Return to Nisargadatta messages.

From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was editing

or deleting.

Werner

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February 28, 2010

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julesmiel

Nisargadatta

Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:11 AM

Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

> Must you send three times each post?

> -geo-

Geo, when I'm worried about your being mean to anyone, that's a habituated

mechanism of the organism? And if so, I was already told that by no one, and

I didn't need you to tell me. Identity-boggling as I sit here nursing a

baby, for chrissake.

All emotion sensors are switched to on in the mother, but maybe it's just a

sensor. Still in the mud.

Julie

To Werner?....me and Werner are old friends. Both have the liberty to say

whatever we like to each other. don't worry...

-geo-

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February 28, 2010

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wwoehr

Nisargadatta

Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:31 AM

Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> wwoehr

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what is

> > > > that? Who

> > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > -geo-

> > >

> > > To remember is to dismember.

> > >

> > > - D -

> > >

> >

> > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> >

> > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> >

> > No remembering, no dismembering.

> >

>

> Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

>

> But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in tongues

> and

> who sound like retards living on an island far away from living human

> beings

> of flesh and blood.

>

> Werner

>

> Must you send three times each post?

> -geo-

>

Geo,

One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

Click it !

On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest

happenings. Read messages only on the web'.

Return to Nisargadatta messages.

From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was

editing or deleting.

Werner

That if I want only web reading.

But why would edited messages be sent? If I correct an email that I have not

yet sent why would it go to the list?

-geo-

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February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> wwoehr

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:31 AM

> Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > wwoehr

> > Nisargadatta

> > Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what is

> > > > > that? Who

> > > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > > > To remember is to dismember.

> > > >

> > > > - D -

> > > >

> > >

> > > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> > >

> > > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> > >

> > > No remembering, no dismembering.

> > >

> >

> > Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

> >

> > But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> > (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in tongues

> > and

> > who sound like retards living on an island far away from living human

> > beings

> > of flesh and blood.

> >

> > Werner

> >

> > Must you send three times each post?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> Geo,

>

> One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

>

> Click it !

>

> On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

>

> Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest

> happenings. Read messages only on the web'.

>

> Return to Nisargadatta messages.

>

> From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was

> editing or deleting.

>

> Werner

>

> That if I want only web reading.

> But why would edited messages be sent? If I correct an email that I have not

> yet sent why would it go to the list?

> -geo-

>

Because your post was sent sent by as personal mail as soon as you hit

return.

The reason why I myself so often have to edit my posts is my bad eysight. I had

several eye operations on both eyes which no longer allow me to read and type

correctly.

Each of my posts therefore contain mistypings which I can only detect some time

later when it already was sent and I am rereading it.

I have to live with that and if you can forgive me and are patient enough you

eventually can also live with it.

Thank you.

Werner

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February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > no.

> >

> > yes.

> >

> > no, really.

> >

> > yes, not really.

> >

> > no, imaginarily real.

> >

> > yes, really imaginary.

>

> Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, daaaad.

Talk, talk, talk.

No " to whom to speak " and yet, whoopee, talk.

No other moment to discuss, and yet, discussion.

Talk and discussion.

Whoopppee!

February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > no.

> > >

> > > yes.

> > >

> > > no, really.

> > >

> > > yes, not really.

> > >

> > > no, imaginarily real.

> > >

> > > yes, really imaginary.

> >

> > Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, daaaad.

> >

>

> P.S...

>

> What is the purpose of life?

>

> Who is the disciple,

> And who is the master?

>

> For I have no bounds.

> I am Shiva.

>

> Nothing arises in me,

> In whom nothing is single,

> Nothing is double.

>

> Nothing is,

> Nothing is not.

>

> In the end,

> The love you take

> Is equal to

> The love you make.

>

> What more is there to say?

>

> -- The Ashtavakra Gita, et al. ;-).

I have no grounds.

I am Coffee.

A rising doesn't happen.

My dough is yeastless.

I am double trouble.

I bubble.

Nothing is what I got on my last paycheck.

In the beginning,

the love you shake,

is equal to the love you bake.

How much more can be said?

Ashtonkutcher Demigita

February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " julesmiel " <julesmiel wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > The feeling of 'being in charge', or 'not being in charge' -- are you > in

charge of that, of which one is there (or not there)?

>

> Nope. Funny stuff! Not in charge. Glad I noticed.

>

> And when I notice that, a new fear steps up to replace the old one. Next up:

Julie is afraid of blowing out of her body. This is why people spend years in

therapy. The fear is endless! But it must not be.

>

> Julie

It ends here. Now.

Where there never was any time for it to begin.

The fear is time.

And it is not released because " everyone wants to have more time ... "

- Dan -

February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote:

>

> -

> julesmiel

> Nisargadatta

> Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:06 AM

> Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > The feeling of 'being in charge', or 'not being in charge' -- are you > in

> > charge of that, of which one is there (or not there)?

>

> Nope. Funny stuff! Not in charge. Glad I noticed.

>

> And when I notice that, a new fear steps up to replace the old one. Next up:

> Julie is afraid of blowing out of her body. This is why people spend years

> in therapy. The fear is endless! But it must not be.

>

> Julie

>

> The next fear is exhausting all doubts and not having anything to talk

> about.

> -geo-

Funny!

Smiles -

- Dan -

February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " julesmiel " <julesmiel wrote:

>

> Organism = organized

>

> It is not organized. The source is not organized. Form appears as

organization.

>

> Julie?, filed under J

The organized only appears to the organizer, because they are the same.

If you are not organized, nothing appears.

" One of these days I gotta get myself organizized. "

Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver

- D -

February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> >

> > -

> > wwoehr

> > Nisargadatta

> > Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:31 AM

> > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > wwoehr

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what is

> > > > > > that? Who

> > > > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > > > To remember is to dismember.

> > > > >

> > > > > - D -

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> > > >

> > > > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> > > >

> > > > No remembering, no dismembering.

> > > >

> > >

> > > Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

> > >

> > > But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> > > (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in tongues

> > > and

> > > who sound like retards living on an island far away from living human

> > > beings

> > > of flesh and blood.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> > > Must you send three times each post?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > Geo,

> >

> > One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

> >

> > Click it !

> >

> > On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

> >

> > Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest

> > happenings. Read messages only on the web'.

> >

> > Return to Nisargadatta messages.

> >

> > From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was

> > editing or deleting.

> >

> > Werner

> >

> > That if I want only web reading.

> > But why would edited messages be sent? If I correct an email that I have not

> > yet sent why would it go to the list?

> > -geo-

> >

>

> Because your post was sent sent by as personal mail as soon as you hit

return.

>

> The reason why I myself so often have to edit my posts is my bad eysight. I

had several eye operations on both eyes which no longer allow me to read and

type correctly.

>

> Each of my posts therefore contain mistypings which I can only detect some

time later when it already was sent and I am rereading it.

>

> I have to live with that and if you can forgive me and are patient enough you

eventually can also live with it.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Werner

I struggle with poor eyesight and have to re-edit my complaints several times to

get them right.

Please bear with me.

My complaints are important and worth reading.

You will be glad you took the time to read them with care, as I did in typing

them.

It's not easy for me to read this list and find things worth complaining about,

but I'm glad I did, and you will be too.

- D -

February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > wwoehr

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:31 AM

> > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > wwoehr

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> > > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what is

> > > > > > > that? Who

> > > > > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To remember is to dismember.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - D -

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> > > > >

> > > > > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> > > > >

> > > > > No remembering, no dismembering.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

> > > >

> > > > But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> > > > (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in tongues

> > > > and

> > > > who sound like retards living on an island far away from living human

> > > > beings

> > > > of flesh and blood.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > Must you send three times each post?

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > Geo,

> > >

> > > One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

> > >

> > > Click it !

> > >

> > > On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

> > >

> > > Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest

> > > happenings. Read messages only on the web'.

> > >

> > > Return to Nisargadatta messages.

> > >

> > > From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was

> > > editing or deleting.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> > > That if I want only web reading.

> > > But why would edited messages be sent? If I correct an email that I have

not

> > > yet sent why would it go to the list?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > Because your post was sent sent by as personal mail as soon as you hit

return.

> >

> > The reason why I myself so often have to edit my posts is my bad eysight. I

had several eye operations on both eyes which no longer allow me to read and

type correctly.

> >

> > Each of my posts therefore contain mistypings which I can only detect some

time later when it already was sent and I am rereading it.

> >

> > I have to live with that and if you can forgive me and are patient enough

you eventually can also live with it.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Werner

>

> I struggle with poor eyesight and have to re-edit my complaints several times

to get them right.

>

> Please bear with me.

>

> My complaints are important and worth reading.

>

> You will be glad you took the time to read them with care, as I did in typing

them.

>

> It's not easy for me to read this list and find things worth complaining

about, but I'm glad I did, and you will be too.

>

> - D -

P: Not good Dan. Werner has a disability. Not nice to

make fun. Give good advice, like good Bootysatva you are.

So, why don't recommend Werner gets a voice typing and

reading software for visually impaired people?

>

February 28, 2010

Okay, boys, so here's a delusion of grandeur. Please stick a pin in it. I

believe I caused the earthquake in Chili. I feel so sorry about it. I'm afraid

I'll be punished for it.

Nothing to do, right? Where's my protection? Do I need armies? Please shrink

me back down to size.

Julie

February 28, 2010

-

cerosoul

Nisargadatta

Sunday, February 28, 2010 4:43 PM

Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > >

> > > -

> > > wwoehr

> > > Nisargadatta

> > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:31 AM

> > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and

> > > Rebirth

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > wwoehr

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> > > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and

> > > > Rebirth

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what

> > > > > > > is

> > > > > > > that? Who

> > > > > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > >

> > > > > > To remember is to dismember.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - D -

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> > > > >

> > > > > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> > > > >

> > > > > No remembering, no dismembering.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

> > > >

> > > > But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> > > > (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in

> > > > tongues

> > > > and

> > > > who sound like retards living on an island far away from living

> > > > human

> > > > beings

> > > > of flesh and blood.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > Must you send three times each post?

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > Geo,

> > >

> > > One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

> > >

> > > Click it !

> > >

> > > On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

> > >

> > > Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest

> > > happenings. Read messages only on the web'.

> > >

> > > Return to Nisargadatta messages.

> > >

> > > From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was

> > > editing or deleting.

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> > > That if I want only web reading.

> > > But why would edited messages be sent? If I correct an email that I

> > > have not

> > > yet sent why would it go to the list?

> > > -geo-

> > >

> >

> > Because your post was sent sent by as personal mail as soon as you

> > hit return.

> >

> > The reason why I myself so often have to edit my posts is my bad

> > eysight. I had several eye operations on both eyes which no longer allow

> > me to read and type correctly.

> >

> > Each of my posts therefore contain mistypings which I can only detect

> > some time later when it already was sent and I am rereading it.

> >

> > I have to live with that and if you can forgive me and are patient

> > enough you eventually can also live with it.

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Werner

>

> I struggle with poor eyesight and have to re-edit my complaints several

> times to get them right.

>

> Please bear with me.

>

> My complaints are important and worth reading.

>

> You will be glad you took the time to read them with care, as I did in

> typing them.

>

> It's not easy for me to read this list and find things worth complaining

> about, but I'm glad I did, and you will be too.

>

> - D -

P: Not good Dan. Werner has a disability. Not nice to

make fun. Give good advice, like good Bootysatva you are.

So, why don't recommend Werner gets a voice typing and

reading software for visually impaired people?

geo>Hmmm...I think I had an idea. Its a bit complicated but it might work.

Instead of sending the post and waiting for it to come back from

reading it

again and editing and sending it again and repeating the procedure one or

two times...

how about reading the post BEFORE hitting the send button and editing it

BEFORE sending it to . It is not simple, I know, but may be worth

trying.

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Chili - I think - is a mexican food (??)

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Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

Okay, boys, so here's a delusion of grandeur. Please stick a pin in it. I believe I caused the earthquake in Chili. I feel so sorry about it. I'm afraid I'll be punished for it.Nothing to do, right? Where's my protection? Do I need armies? Please shrink me back down to size.Julie

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February 28, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " julesmiel " <julesmiel@> wrote:

> >

> > Okay, boys, so here's a delusion of grandeur. Please stick a pin

> > in it. I believe I caused the earthquake in Chili. I feel so

> > sorry about it. I'm afraid I'll be punished for it.

P.S. this 'advaita stuff' may be making you a little nutty.

Take a break from it.

What else could someone else recommend?

March 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " julesmiel " <julesmiel@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Okay, boys, so here's a delusion of grandeur. Please stick a pin

> > > in it. I believe I caused the earthquake in Chili. I feel so

> > > sorry about it. I'm afraid I'll be punished for it.

>

> P.S. this 'advaita stuff' may be making you a little nutty.

>

> Take a break from it.

>

> What else could someone else recommend?

>

BTW, my impression is that you're confusing " time, thought and belief " with the

timeless, the Silent.

It isn't about making " Advaita " into a belief system.

Not about believing that 'everything is me'.

It's about seeing directly that 'everything is me' -- now, this moment,

perceptually, in terms of sensing and being.

If that doesn't happen, then the words " everything is me " are false -- not to be

taken as something to be believed in.

You're not making anything happen, as a person, such as earthquakes in Chile.

March 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > wwoehr

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:31 AM

> > > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > wwoehr

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> > > > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and

Rebirth

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what

is

> > > > > > > > that? Who

> > > > > > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > > > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To remember is to dismember.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No remembering, no dismembering.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> > > > > (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in

tongues

> > > > > and

> > > > > who sound like retards living on an island far away from living human

> > > > > beings

> > > > > of flesh and blood.

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > > > Must you send three times each post?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Geo,

> > > >

> > > > One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

> > > >

> > > > Click it !

> > > >

> > > > On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

> > > >

> > > > Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest

> > > > happenings. Read messages only on the web'.

> > > >

> > > > Return to Nisargadatta messages.

> > > >

> > > > From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was

> > > > editing or deleting.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > That if I want only web reading.

> > > > But why would edited messages be sent? If I correct an email that I have

not

> > > > yet sent why would it go to the list?

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > Because your post was sent sent by as personal mail as soon as you

hit return.

> > >

> > > The reason why I myself so often have to edit my posts is my bad eysight.

I had several eye operations on both eyes which no longer allow me to read and

type correctly.

> > >

> > > Each of my posts therefore contain mistypings which I can only detect some

time later when it already was sent and I am rereading it.

> > >

> > > I have to live with that and if you can forgive me and are patient enough

you eventually can also live with it.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

> > I struggle with poor eyesight and have to re-edit my complaints several

times to get them right.

> >

> > Please bear with me.

> >

> > My complaints are important and worth reading.

> >

> > You will be glad you took the time to read them with care, as I did in

typing them.

> >

> > It's not easy for me to read this list and find things worth complaining

about, but I'm glad I did, and you will be too.

> >

> > - D -

>

> P: Not good Dan. Werner has a disability. Not nice to

> make fun. Give good advice, like good Bootysatva you are.

He's just throwing out a " look at me, I'm different than you " , in hopes of

getting some sympathy.

Above, you throw out a " look at me, I'm sympathetic and you're not, Dan -- I'm

different than you " , in hopes of getting some sympathy.

Dan just tells it like it is.

He won't get any sympathy, and I don't believe he wants any.

March 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > wwoehr

> > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:31 AM

> > > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and Rebirth

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > wwoehr

> > > > > Nisargadatta

> > > > > Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:54 AM

> > > > > Re:Nisargadatta on Death, Suffering and

Rebirth

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If you come to think about it....remebering...forgeting...what

is

> > > > > > > > that? Who

> > > > > > > > forgets/remembers? what?

> > > > > > > > Ai....ai....so many questions....

> > > > > > > > -geo-

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > To remember is to dismember.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - D -

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Well, it's a good thing there's no one who " remembers " , then ;-).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > For memory to arise, is for memory to arise.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No remembering, no dismembering.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh, I forgot your name. It was Tom, Tob or the like.

> > > > >

> > > > > But I still remember you are one of those Neo-Advaita intellectuals

> > > > > (especially like Dan who seems to be your god) and who speak in

tongues

> > > > > and

> > > > > who sound like retards living on an island far away from living human

> > > > > beings

> > > > > of flesh and blood.

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > > > Must you send three times each post?

> > > > > -geo-

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > Geo,

> > > >

> > > > One line below the big logo you will find 'Edit Membership.

> > > >

> > > > Click it !

> > > >

> > > > On the appearing page you will find 'Step 2. Message Delivery'

> > > >

> > > > Just check and click: 'Web Only - Don't get notified of the latest

> > > > happenings. Read messages only on the web'.

> > > >

> > > > Return to Nisargadatta messages.

> > > >

> > > > From now on you will only get the final post and no longer those I was

> > > > editing or deleting.

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > > > That if I want only web reading.

> > > > But why would edited messages be sent? If I correct an email that I have

not

> > > > yet sent why would it go to the list?

> > > > -geo-

> > > >

> > >

> > > Because your post was sent sent by as personal mail as soon as you

hit return.

> > >

> > > The reason why I myself so often have to edit my posts is my bad eysight.

I had several eye operations on both eyes which no longer allow me to read and

type correctly.

> > >

> > > Each of my posts therefore contain mistypings which I can only detect some

time later when it already was sent and I am rereading it.

> > >

> > > I have to live with that and if you can forgive me and are patient enough

you eventually can also live with it.

> > >

> > > Thank you.

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

> > I struggle with poor eyesight and have to re-edit my complaints several

times to get them right.

> >

> > Please bear with me.

> >

> > My complaints are important and worth reading.

> >

> > You will be glad you took the time to read them with care, as I did in

typing them.

> >

> > It's not easy for me to read this list and find things worth complaining

about, but I'm glad I did, and you will be too.

> >

> > - D -

>

> P: Not good Dan. Werner has a disability.

> Not nice to

> make fun.

D: Not nice to make fun of people? Not what I was doing. Not that I don't

have a dark side - but that isn't what I was doing. I was pointing to Werner's

noticeable tendency to gripe about people who discuss nonduality on a list

devoted to nonduality. What I was making fun of was the time and effort he goes

to, to voice these gripes. This is not making fun of his disability. Indeed -

I understand that having poor eyesight makes reading these posts more difficult,

and I'm sorry Werner has to go through that difficulty. It would be nice to

hear something constructive from Werner once in a while.

But Pete, your consideration for the disabled is duly noted.

Perhaps you can apply your advice to yourself. A few posts back you were

laughing at me for treating people with compulsive behaviors because you were

telling me that I am compulsive myself and should seek treatment. Perhaps it's

not nice for you to make fun of people with that particular disability ... in

fact, I have compulsive behaviors, you were not being nice to me, and perhaps

you could just help my self-esteem by telling me about some of my good

qualities.

I'm all ears, Peter. Waiting ...

Hey - I wonder if your kindness and compassion also extends to letting Werner

know that it's not nice to make fun of people who deal with mental retardation.

P: Give good advice, like good Bootysatva you are.

> So, why don't recommend Werner gets a voice typing and

> reading software for visually impaired people?

D: Okay. Valid point.

Werner: Consider getting voice typing, reading software for visually impaired

people, and while you're at it: STOP MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE DEALING WITH MENTAL

RETARDATION. They and their parents will thank you if you do.

And Pete, consider realizing that making fun of people isn't nice, regardless of

whether or not they have a disability.

So Pete: STOP MAKING FUN OF PEOPLE.

Love to you Pete, tp Werner and his indomitable presence on this list, and to

all sentient beings,

- Dan -

March 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> D: Not nice to make fun of people? Not what I was doing. Not

> that I don't have a dark side -

Which side is that -- the past side, or the future side? :-p.

>

> Perhaps you can apply your advice to yourself. A few posts back you were

laughing at me for treating people with compulsive behaviors because you were

telling me that I am compulsive myself and should seek treatment. Perhaps it's

not nice for you to make fun of people with that particular disability ... in

fact, I have compulsive

> behaviors,

What are your compulsive behaviors?

March 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > D: Not nice to make fun of people? Not what I was doing. Not

> > that I don't have a dark side -

>

> Which side is that -- the past side, or the future side? :-p.

D: Well, turn me over. I'm done on this side. And now, you can see for

yourself ...

> > Perhaps you can apply your advice to yourself. A few posts back you were

laughing at me for treating people with compulsive behaviors because you were

telling me that I am compulsive myself and should seek treatment. Perhaps it's

not nice for you to make fun of people with that particular disability ... in

fact, I have compulsive

> > behaviors,

>

> What are your compulsive behaviors?

D: Well, sometimes I can overpost. Pete has pointed this out - and tried to

cure me of this. It almost worked. Nice try, Pete. Maybe if I send him a

check, he will try even harder ... Nah, never mind.

March 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > > D: Not nice to make fun of people? Not what I was doing. Not

> > > that I don't have a dark side -

> >

> > Which side is that -- the past side, or the future side? :-p.

>

> D: Well, turn me over. I'm done on this side. And now, you can

> see for yourself ...

Are you a pork chop?

What do you recommend -- salt, pepper, or should I go all the way and bread you

up?

> > > Perhaps you can apply your advice to yourself. A few posts back you were

laughing at me for treating people with compulsive behaviors because you were

telling me that I am compulsive myself and should seek treatment. Perhaps it's

not nice for you to make fun of people with that particular disability ... in

fact, I have compulsive

> > > behaviors,

> >

> > What are your compulsive behaviors?

>

> D: Well, sometimes I can overpost. Pete has pointed this out -

> and tried to cure me of this. It almost worked. Nice try, Pete.

> Maybe if I send him a check, he will try even harder ... Nah, never > mind.

He won't. He'd just cash the check and talk about how funny Dan's brain is :-p.

March 1, 2010

Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote:

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > D: Not nice to make fun of people? Not what I was doing. Not

> > > > that I don't have a dark side -

> > >

> > > Which side is that -- the past side, or the future side? :-p.

> >

> > D: Well, turn me over. I'm done on this side. And now, you can

> > see for yourself ...

>

> Are you a pork chop?

>

> What do you recommend -- salt, pepper, or should I go all the way and bread

you up?

D: Well, this was a reference to St. Lawrence. The Romans decided to roast him

over a fire on a spit, like a pig. Reportedly, St. Lawrence said, " turn me

over, I'm done on this side. "

Not that I would be as brave. I'm sure I'd be making noises like that guy in

Deliverance.

> > > > Perhaps you can apply your advice to yourself. A few posts back you

were laughing at me for treating people with compulsive behaviors because you

were telling me that I am compulsive myself and should seek treatment. Perhaps

it's not nice for you to make fun of people with that particular disability ...

in fact, I have compulsive

> > > > behaviors,

> > >

> > > What are your compulsive behaviors?

> >

> > D: Well, sometimes I can overpost. Pete has pointed this out -

> > and tried to cure me of this. It almost worked. Nice try, Pete.

> > Maybe if I send him a check, he will try even harder ... Nah, never > mind.

>

> He won't. He'd just cash the check and talk about how funny Dan's brain is

:-p.

Laughing out loud,

- D -

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