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Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

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> > > [...]

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> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > >

> > > Sorry, Bob is all we have on this forum for now. You might need to do the

extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own. i.e.

if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to keep

that in check. Else, there is no need.

> >

> > I was kidding.

> >

> > To me, what people refer to as " ego inflation " is a type of behavior they

don't like, or a thought process that concerns them.

>

>

> Sure. I think most people don't like being looked down upon.

>

>

> >

> > There isn't an actual ego that gets inflated.

> >

> > Just judgments made about behavior, words, or thoughts.

>

> Yes, I think they suspect that certain kind of behavior is because a person

thinks very highly of himself and does only those things that will support such

image. They suspect that they are not meeting the real person, but, only a

persona.

>

>

> >

> > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply noting

that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and will

become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my taste.

> >

> > I'm glad you spoke up.

> >

> > Good to hear from you.

> >

> > It's been a while - you used to post more often.

> >

> >

> > - Dan -

>

>

> Yes, I have been posting less than before.

>

> regards,

> ac

 

 

would it be more interesting to post more than after?

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

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> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

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> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

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> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > >

> > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes, indeed,

> > >

> > > The entertainment factor of a list like this should be as high as

possible. People get bored so easily and soon will leave to look for another

list offering more fun.

> > >

> > > Maybe it would be wise if Hur could install a larger foto section with

sexy girls and handsome men. Also some links to soft- and hardcore porn and to

free mp3 are adviced. On the web there also exist a large amount of cartoon

sites Hur could link to.

> > >

> > > Then together with Bob, our resident spiritual clown, this list will offer

lots of fun and entertainment that even could attract more visitors to sign in.

> > >

> > > Huzzah huzzah hurray !

> > >

> > > Life can be so exciting !

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it all

about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

> >

> > I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting challenge to

the " teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls of the

teaching and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and revealing

than it would be without any witty challenge.

> >

> > I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you or few

other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > ac

> >

>

>

> Thanks, Ac,

>

> Intersting point.

>

> Question: Why is one longing for and needing any challenge at all ?

>

> Is it because our minds are that sluggish and/or depending on outside stimuli

? Does one constantly need some kick or stimulus to feel alive ?

>

> Do you personally need challenges, AC ?

>

> Because you already mentioned Krishnamurti here is what he said about boredom:

>

> " Boredom is the threatening dawning realization of what one really is: Nothing

!

>

> That's why one constantly is craving for entertainment and for challenges as

an escape not having to face one's shallowness and nothingness " .

>

> Look at the pulk of people who have chosen Bob to ramble on. There lies the

answer what this list is about: Entertaiment.

>

> Ok then, let's have fun and let's choose Bob as our king !

>

> Werner

 

 

 

wernie..

 

what the hell is the " pulk " of people?

 

and don't give me that bad eyesight bullshit.

 

the " p " on the keyboard is nowhere near ANY letter..

 

that would make sense as a word in front of " ulk " .

 

you crave to be a member of the group you can't stand.

 

you're sick or a weird kind of masochist...

 

without ANY sense of fun or humor..

 

who likes to lurk around people he can't stand..

 

and get all steamed up about not being allowed to participate.

 

and you have dirty girly long hair old boy.

 

why don't you do what dabbo suggested for geo to do?

 

go look at gruesome picture of the Haitian disaster.

 

that wouldn't be so entertaining wenie poo..

 

so it would be right up your ying-yang yoni you you-hoo yippy yo-yo.

 

face your own negative nothingness you little creepoid.

 

no one here is the least bit interested in your bullshit.

 

i mean God Almighty even a dumbo like you can figure that out.

 

LOL!

 

..b b.b.

 

DON'T READ THIS POST!

 

THAT'S AN ORDER!

 

:-)

 

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> >

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> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > [...]

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > >

> > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do the

extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own. i.e.

if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to keep

that in check. Else, there is no need.

> >

> > I was kidding.

> >

> > To me, what people refer to as " ego inflation " is a type of behavior they

don't like, or a thought process that concerns them.

> >

> > There isn't an actual ego that gets inflated.

> >

> > Just judgments made about behavior, words, or thoughts.

> >

> > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply noting

that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and will

become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my taste.

>

>

> Great !

>

> We also should install a ranking poll on this list showing the entetaimnet

value of each member.

>

> As suggested by Dan we will start with Bob, Lene and Geo.

>

> I can imagine that this list more and more will get the shooting star of all

lists.

>

> Werner

 

LOL.

 

Now, you're talking!

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

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>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > [...]

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > >

> > > Sorry, Bob is all we have on this forum for now. You might need to do the

extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own. i.e.

if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to keep

that in check. Else, there is no need.

> >

> > I was kidding.

> >

> > To me, what people refer to as " ego inflation " is a type of behavior they

don't like, or a thought process that concerns them.

>

>

> Sure. I think most people don't like being looked down upon.

>

>

> >

> > There isn't an actual ego that gets inflated.

> >

> > Just judgments made about behavior, words, or thoughts.

>

> Yes, I think they suspect that certain kind of behavior is because a person

thinks very highly of himself and does only those things that will support such

image. They suspect that they are not meeting the real person, but, only a

persona.

 

Yup.

 

It is an assessment about an imagined (imaged) other.

 

Along with assumptions about what that image will " do, " how it will behave, and

what its motives are.

 

All such assumptions and views are based on experience in the past, drawn from

the " viewer " of the other.

 

It takes a separate self to view an other and make assessments about this

other's views of itself, its phoniness or realness, does it not?

 

 

> > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply noting

that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and will

become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my taste.

> >

> > I'm glad you spoke up.

> >

> > Good to hear from you.

> >

> > It's been a while - you used to post more often.

> >

> >

> > - Dan -

>

>

> Yes, I have been posting less than before.

>

> regards,

> ac

 

Great hearing from you.

 

Appreciate your feedback --

 

 

- d -

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Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming wrote:

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>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > > [...]

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > >

> > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do the

extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own. i.e.

if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to keep

that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > >

> > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply noting

that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and will

become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my taste.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [...]

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, indeed,

> >

> > The entertainment factor of a list like this should be as high as possible.

People get bored so easily and soon will leave to look for another list offering

more fun.

> >

> > Maybe it would be wise if Hur could install a larger foto section with sexy

girls and handsome men. Also some links to soft- and hardcore porn and to free

mp3 are adviced. On the web there also exist a large amount of cartoon sites Hur

could link to.

> >

> > Then together with Bob, our resident spiritual clown, this list will offer

lots of fun and entertainment that even could attract more visitors to sign in.

> >

> > Huzzah huzzah hurray !

> >

> > Life can be so exciting !

> >

> > Werner

> >

>

>

>

> Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it all

about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

>

> I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting challenge to the

" teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls of the teaching

and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and revealing than it

would be without any witty challenge.

>

> I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you or few

other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

>

>

>

> regards,

> ac

 

 

Makes sense.

 

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Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > >

> > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes, indeed,

> > >

> > > The entertainment factor of a list like this should be as high as

possible. People get bored so easily and soon will leave to look for another

list offering more fun.

> > >

> > > Maybe it would be wise if Hur could install a larger foto section with

sexy girls and handsome men. Also some links to soft- and hardcore porn and to

free mp3 are adviced. On the web there also exist a large amount of cartoon

sites Hur could link to.

> > >

> > > Then together with Bob, our resident spiritual clown, this list will offer

lots of fun and entertainment that even could attract more visitors to sign in.

> > >

> > > Huzzah huzzah hurray !

> > >

> > > Life can be so exciting !

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it all

about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

> >

> > I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting challenge to

the " teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls of the

teaching and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and revealing

than it would be without any witty challenge.

> >

> > I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you or few

other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > ac

> >

>

>

> Thanks, Ac,

>

> Intersting point.

>

> Question: Why is one longing for and needing any challenge at all ?

>

> Is it because our minds are that sluggish and/or depending on outside stimuli

? Does one constantly need some kick or stimulus to feel alive ?

>

> Do you personally need challenges, AC ?

>

> Because you already mentioned Krishnamurti here is what he said about boredom:

>

> " Boredom is the threatening dawning realization of what one really is: Nothing

!

>

> That's why one constantly is craving for entertainment and for challenges as

an escape not having to face one's shallowness and nothingness " .

>

> Look at the pulk of people who have chosen Bob to ramble on. There lies the

answer what this list is about: Entertaiment.

>

> Ok then, let's have fun and let's choose Bob as our king !

>

> Werner

 

Or, let's be nothing!

 

Yay for nothing!!

 

What is it like for nothing to read a list?

 

What does it get from it?

 

What does it have to impart?

 

How can it react?

 

What is a word read to " nothing " ?

 

What is a series of words read to " nothing " ?

 

You cannot and will not become nothing.

 

Never.

 

It doesn't matter how much you read or think or don't think or know or don't

know.

 

Nothing is.

 

And entertainment doesn't add or detract one iota from this " nothing one is. "

 

Being bored is just another emotional state.

 

Emotional states come and go.

 

" Nothing " is not in any emotional state.

 

" Nothing " is not having emotions to deal with.

 

" Nothing " is not going to " get " what it is to be nothing, because " nothing "

decided to deal with its boredom and no longer fight it through finding

entertainment.

 

" Nothing " is not doing anything, engaging in any emotional states as they come

and go, is not using thought to get somewhere, nor is it gaining more of what it

is when there are no thoughts.

 

Thoughts don't touch other thoughts.

 

Images don't touch other images.

 

Nothing alone is.

 

 

Peace out,

 

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > >

> > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > >

> > >

> > > dabbo's sensitive.

> > >

> > > :-)

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> > Yes.

> >

> > This *is* the sensitivity training class, isn't it?

> >

> > Or did I take a wrong turn?

> >

> > - D -

>

>

> a very long time ago.

>

> but you really are obsessed..

>

> about this right and wrong thing aren't you?

>

> well it's right for you to be wrong somehow.

>

> .b b.b.

 

you're wrong to say that wrong and right are wrong.

 

or maybe you're right to say that right and wrong are right.

 

are right and wrong wrong, or right?

 

say the final word!

 

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Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote:

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

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> >

> > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > But I do not understand, what is there to decide? Werner posts

> > > > > > complaints and so what? I concur with the person who said that

> > > > > > there will always be something to complain about -- next thing

> > > > > > will perhaps be complaints about members, addressing the wrong

> > > > > > subjects in the wrong way. I have - believe it or not - heard

> > > > > > that on another list, where everybody spoke to the point which

> > > > > > is what is life and death and the rest of it -- but some would

> > > > > > have that we talked about it in a certain spirit and a certain

> > > > > > way and told a certain form of a certain truth and what else -

> > > > > > and these people kept complaining for it was never good enough

> > > > > > for them what was going on and they stuffed the air with words

> > > > > > more filthy than anyone Bob has posted on this list as long as

> > > > > > I have been participating. The moderator of that list finally

> > > > > > gave up and left the forum to its nutty members - and that was

> > > > > > the best thing he could have done. He still owns the list btw.

> > > > > > If Bob leaves this list - of his own free will (excuse me? ;-)

> > > > > > or because you throw him out of it humour will leave with him.

> > > > > > He seems to be the only guy here with a sense of humour. Lene

> > > > > > has spoken :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -Lene

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I agree with you Lene!

> > > > >

> > > > > Bob is fun. He adds spice and flavor to this forum and he keeps the

" knowledge " , " realization " , " teaching and preaching " as well as associated big

'ego' (which according to its holders, doesn't exist) in check.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think without Bob, this forum will become like dry, boring church.

It will have lot of " teachings " which might appeal as 'nonduality 101' some very

newcomer to nonduality who has never heard of Niz or Ramana. It might also

interest a sadist interested in dry philosophy or in passing a class on 'nondual

philosophy'. However, it will lose its attraction, fun and challenge for those

with existing knowledge and experience of " nonduality " , " realization " .

> > > > >

> > > > > I think it is OK to " teach " - and, many people on this and other

forums do in fact, " teach " without calling it such. I think Bob adds an

interesting challenge to such teachers and might also help by keeping their ever

inflating egos in check.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > With warm regards,

> > > > > ac

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > >

> > > > maybe i'll try not capitalizing my i's for a while.

> > > >

> > > > or, i could move to haiti.

> > > >

> > > > nah, too drastic.

> > > >

> > > > i'm sure that given a few more months, haiti will move to me.

> > > >

> > > > so, in the meantime, i'll just stay here and keep having fun with bob.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > - d -

> > >

> > >

> > > you always think it's always all about you don't you dabbo?

> > >

> > > you're too small minded to have a big ego.

> > >

> > > don't give credit where none is due or when none is owing.

> > >

> > > take it from the Master Card...you owe me.

> > >

> > > i own you dabbo..

> > >

> > > i know Bob..Bob's a friend of mine..you ain't no fun like .b b.b.

> > >

> > > no matter that he toys with you.

> > >

> > > it's serious stuff..

> > >

> > > holy and deep and straight from the empty pulpit.

> > >

> > > check his sepulcher...He is Gone!

> > >

> > > up..up in the air..

> > >

> > > He leaves no hair.

> > >

> > > it is his desire no relics be left for idle Idol worship.

> > >

> > > and oh Blessings and Blessednessness..

> > >

> > > he Still and Always Abides among you..

> > >

> > > as your Light and bullshit stopper.

> > >

> > > Praise and Glory be unto Him!

> > >

> > > he gets a kick out of kicking ass.

> > >

> > > .b b.b.

> >

> >

> >

> > To be played with by the mighty player is ...

> >

> >

> > mighty playful.

> >

> >

> > Well-played,

> >

> > Danielito

>

>

> one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

>

> :-)

>

> .b b.b.

 

 

Could be.

 

- Yertle -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > >

> > > I was kidding.

> > >

> > > To me, what people refer to as " ego inflation " is a type of behavior they

don't like, or a thought process that concerns them.

> > >

> > > There isn't an actual ego that gets inflated.

> > >

> > > Just judgments made about behavior, words, or thoughts.

> > >

> > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> >

> >

> > Great !

> >

> > We also should install a ranking poll on this list showing the entetaimnet

value of each member.

> >

> > As suggested by Dan we will start with Bob, Lene and Geo.

> >

> > I can imagine that this list more and more will get the shooting star of all

lists.

> >

> > Werner

>

> LOL.

>

> Now, you're talking!

>

> - D -

 

 

no dabb..

 

you are.

 

and as usual it's not funny..not smart..not needed.

 

it is in fact not anything..

 

but your stunned and overpowering need to say ANYTHING.

 

do you have to do this?

 

....make a fool of yourself like this?

 

well ok then.

 

i thought so.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > >

> > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes, indeed,

> > >

> > > The entertainment factor of a list like this should be as high as

possible. People get bored so easily and soon will leave to look for another

list offering more fun.

> > >

> > > Maybe it would be wise if Hur could install a larger foto section with

sexy girls and handsome men. Also some links to soft- and hardcore porn and to

free mp3 are adviced. On the web there also exist a large amount of cartoon

sites Hur could link to.

> > >

> > > Then together with Bob, our resident spiritual clown, this list will offer

lots of fun and entertainment that even could attract more visitors to sign in.

> > >

> > > Huzzah huzzah hurray !

> > >

> > > Life can be so exciting !

> > >

> > > Werner

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it all

about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

> >

> > I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting challenge to

the " teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls of the

teaching and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and revealing

than it would be without any witty challenge.

> >

> > I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you or few

other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards,

> > ac

>

>

> Makes sense.

>

> - d -

 

 

ac..

 

now don't you feel better?

 

now that dabbo has given his " makes sense " seal of approval?

 

can you believe that he feels that you should feel honored by that?

 

can you believe he feels it's IMPORTANT to tell you that?

 

can you believe he believes he is THAT significant..

 

in your life or the life of anyone else?

 

believe it!

 

dabbo is the most self centered blind kid you'll ever meet.

 

he REALLY doesn't see how repulsive his attitude is.

 

he thinks his self-righteous thought and judgmental opinion..

 

is somehow God's gift to the world.

 

and he Heralds this crap constantly.

 

treat him gently.

 

kids like dabbo may seem to be just ignorant of how they come off..

 

but sometimes these little lunatics..

 

can actually start to act out their fantasies..

 

and not just try to talk like a Divine..

 

but start to do things they feel they are naturally empowered to do..

 

by some Supreme Authority derived from their own inflated ego.

 

that's just plain scary.

 

just a small heads up.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

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>

>

> Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > [...]

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have on this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > >

> > > I was kidding.

> > >

> > > To me, what people refer to as " ego inflation " is a type of behavior they

don't like, or a thought process that concerns them.

> >

> >

> > Sure. I think most people don't like being looked down upon.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > There isn't an actual ego that gets inflated.

> > >

> > > Just judgments made about behavior, words, or thoughts.

> >

> > Yes, I think they suspect that certain kind of behavior is because a person

thinks very highly of himself and does only those things that will support such

image. They suspect that they are not meeting the real person, but, only a

persona.

>

> Yup.

>

> It is an assessment about an imagined (imaged) other.

>

> Along with assumptions about what that image will " do, " how it will behave,

and what its motives are.

>

> All such assumptions and views are based on experience in the past, drawn from

the " viewer " of the other.

>

> It takes a separate self to view an other and make assessments about this

other's views of itself, its phoniness or realness, does it not?

>

>

> > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > >

> > > I'm glad you spoke up.

> > >

> > > Good to hear from you.

> > >

> > > It's been a while - you used to post more often.

> > >

> > >

> > > - Dan -

> >

> >

> > Yes, I have been posting less than before.

> >

> > regards,

> > ac

>

> Great hearing from you.

>

> Appreciate your feedback --

>

>

> - d -

 

 

that's NOT important dabbo.

 

do you sincerely feel that that knowledge should " move " ac?

 

you are being condescending and typically phony.

 

but you will never admit it.

 

..b b.b.

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > [...]

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [...]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes, indeed,

> > > >

> > > > The entertainment factor of a list like this should be as high as

possible. People get bored so easily and soon will leave to look for another

list offering more fun.

> > > >

> > > > Maybe it would be wise if Hur could install a larger foto section with

sexy girls and handsome men. Also some links to soft- and hardcore porn and to

free mp3 are adviced. On the web there also exist a large amount of cartoon

sites Hur could link to.

> > > >

> > > > Then together with Bob, our resident spiritual clown, this list will

offer lots of fun and entertainment that even could attract more visitors to

sign in.

> > > >

> > > > Huzzah huzzah hurray !

> > > >

> > > > Life can be so exciting !

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it all

about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

> > >

> > > I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting challenge to

the " teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls of the

teaching and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and revealing

than it would be without any witty challenge.

> > >

> > > I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you or

few other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards,

> > > ac

> > >

> >

> >

> > Thanks, Ac,

> >

> > Intersting point.

> >

> > Question: Why is one longing for and needing any challenge at all ?

> >

> > Is it because our minds are that sluggish and/or depending on outside

stimuli ? Does one constantly need some kick or stimulus to feel alive ?

> >

> > Do you personally need challenges, AC ?

> >

> > Because you already mentioned Krishnamurti here is what he said about

boredom:

> >

> > " Boredom is the threatening dawning realization of what one really is:

Nothing !

> >

> > That's why one constantly is craving for entertainment and for challenges as

an escape not having to face one's shallowness and nothingness " .

> >

> > Look at the pulk of people who have chosen Bob to ramble on. There lies the

answer what this list is about: Entertaiment.

> >

> > Ok then, let's have fun and let's choose Bob as our king !

> >

> > Werner

>

> Or, let's be nothing!

>

> Yay for nothing!!

>

> What is it like for nothing to read a list?

>

> What does it get from it?

>

> What does it have to impart?

>

> How can it react?

>

> What is a word read to " nothing " ?

>

> What is a series of words read to " nothing " ?

>

> You cannot and will not become nothing.

>

> Never.

>

> It doesn't matter how much you read or think or don't think or know or don't

know.

>

> Nothing is.

>

> And entertainment doesn't add or detract one iota from this " nothing one is. "

>

> Being bored is just another emotional state.

>

> Emotional states come and go.

>

> " Nothing " is not in any emotional state.

>

> " Nothing " is not having emotions to deal with.

>

> " Nothing " is not going to " get " what it is to be nothing, because " nothing "

decided to deal with its boredom and no longer fight it through finding

entertainment.

>

> " Nothing " is not doing anything, engaging in any emotional states as they come

and go, is not using thought to get somewhere, nor is it gaining more of what it

is when there are no thoughts.

>

> Thoughts don't touch other thoughts.

>

> Images don't touch other images.

>

> Nothing alone is.

>

>

> Peace out,

>

> - Dan -

 

 

IF:

 

" Nothing alone is " ...

 

why the hell did you write all that?

 

get real dabbo.

 

..b b.b.

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > [...]

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to do

the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its own.

i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want to

keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > [...]

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > dabbo's sensitive.

> > > >

> > > > :-)

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > > Yes.

> > >

> > > This *is* the sensitivity training class, isn't it?

> > >

> > > Or did I take a wrong turn?

> > >

> > > - D -

> >

> >

> > a very long time ago.

> >

> > but you really are obsessed..

> >

> > about this right and wrong thing aren't you?

> >

> > well it's right for you to be wrong somehow.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> you're wrong to say that wrong and right are wrong.

>

> or maybe you're right to say that right and wrong are right.

>

> are right and wrong wrong, or right?

>

> say the final word!

>

> - d -

 

 

ha....haha...ha..ah..ahem..

 

ok dabbo..

 

feel better now?

 

ok put a cork in it.

 

even though it's flat already.

 

it doesn't have any fizz..but it stinks so bad!

 

..b b.b.

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> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But I do not understand, what is there to decide? Werner posts

> > > > > > > complaints and so what? I concur with the person who said that

> > > > > > > there will always be something to complain about -- next thing

> > > > > > > will perhaps be complaints about members, addressing the wrong

> > > > > > > subjects in the wrong way. I have - believe it or not - heard

> > > > > > > that on another list, where everybody spoke to the point which

> > > > > > > is what is life and death and the rest of it -- but some would

> > > > > > > have that we talked about it in a certain spirit and a certain

> > > > > > > way and told a certain form of a certain truth and what else -

> > > > > > > and these people kept complaining for it was never good enough

> > > > > > > for them what was going on and they stuffed the air with words

> > > > > > > more filthy than anyone Bob has posted on this list as long as

> > > > > > > I have been participating. The moderator of that list finally

> > > > > > > gave up and left the forum to its nutty members - and that was

> > > > > > > the best thing he could have done. He still owns the list btw.

> > > > > > > If Bob leaves this list - of his own free will (excuse me? ;-)

> > > > > > > or because you throw him out of it humour will leave with him.

> > > > > > > He seems to be the only guy here with a sense of humour. Lene

> > > > > > > has spoken :)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > -Lene

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I agree with you Lene!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Bob is fun. He adds spice and flavor to this forum and he keeps the

" knowledge " , " realization " , " teaching and preaching " as well as associated big

'ego' (which according to its holders, doesn't exist) in check.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think without Bob, this forum will become like dry, boring

church. It will have lot of " teachings " which might appeal as 'nonduality 101'

some very newcomer to nonduality who has never heard of Niz or Ramana. It might

also interest a sadist interested in dry philosophy or in passing a class on

'nondual philosophy'. However, it will lose its attraction, fun and challenge

for those with existing knowledge and experience of " nonduality " , " realization " .

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think it is OK to " teach " - and, many people on this and other

forums do in fact, " teach " without calling it such. I think Bob adds an

interesting challenge to such teachers and might also help by keeping their ever

inflating egos in check.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > With warm regards,

> > > > > > ac

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > > >

> > > > > maybe i'll try not capitalizing my i's for a while.

> > > > >

> > > > > or, i could move to haiti.

> > > > >

> > > > > nah, too drastic.

> > > > >

> > > > > i'm sure that given a few more months, haiti will move to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > so, in the meantime, i'll just stay here and keep having fun with bob.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > - d -

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > you always think it's always all about you don't you dabbo?

> > > >

> > > > you're too small minded to have a big ego.

> > > >

> > > > don't give credit where none is due or when none is owing.

> > > >

> > > > take it from the Master Card...you owe me.

> > > >

> > > > i own you dabbo..

> > > >

> > > > i know Bob..Bob's a friend of mine..you ain't no fun like .b b.b.

> > > >

> > > > no matter that he toys with you.

> > > >

> > > > it's serious stuff..

> > > >

> > > > holy and deep and straight from the empty pulpit.

> > > >

> > > > check his sepulcher...He is Gone!

> > > >

> > > > up..up in the air..

> > > >

> > > > He leaves no hair.

> > > >

> > > > it is his desire no relics be left for idle Idol worship.

> > > >

> > > > and oh Blessings and Blessednessness..

> > > >

> > > > he Still and Always Abides among you..

> > > >

> > > > as your Light and bullshit stopper.

> > > >

> > > > Praise and Glory be unto Him!

> > > >

> > > > he gets a kick out of kicking ass.

> > > >

> > > > .b b.b.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > To be played with by the mighty player is ...

> > >

> > >

> > > mighty playful.

> > >

> > >

> > > Well-played,

> > >

> > > Danielito

> >

> >

> > one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

> >

> > :-)

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

>

> Could be.

>

> - Yertle -

 

 

oh Gawd!

 

..b b.b.

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> Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [...]

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need to

do the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its

own. i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want

to keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am simply

noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous and

will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and my

taste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [...]

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, indeed,

> > > > >

> > > > > The entertainment factor of a list like this should be as high as

possible. People get bored so easily and soon will leave to look for another

list offering more fun.

> > > > >

> > > > > Maybe it would be wise if Hur could install a larger foto section with

sexy girls and handsome men. Also some links to soft- and hardcore porn and to

free mp3 are adviced. On the web there also exist a large amount of cartoon

sites Hur could link to.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then together with Bob, our resident spiritual clown, this list will

offer lots of fun and entertainment that even could attract more visitors to

sign in.

> > > > >

> > > > > Huzzah huzzah hurray !

> > > > >

> > > > > Life can be so exciting !

> > > > >

> > > > > Werner

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it

all about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

> > > >

> > > > I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting challenge

to the " teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls of the

teaching and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and revealing

than it would be without any witty challenge.

> > > >

> > > > I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you or

few other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regards,

> > > > ac

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanks, Ac,

> > >

> > > Intersting point.

> > >

> > > Question: Why is one longing for and needing any challenge at all ?

> > >

> > > Is it because our minds are that sluggish and/or depending on outside

stimuli ? Does one constantly need some kick or stimulus to feel alive ?

> > >

> > > Do you personally need challenges, AC ?

> > >

> > > Because you already mentioned Krishnamurti here is what he said about

boredom:

> > >

> > > " Boredom is the threatening dawning realization of what one really is:

Nothing !

> > >

> > > That's why one constantly is craving for entertainment and for challenges

as an escape not having to face one's shallowness and nothingness " .

> > >

> > > Look at the pulk of people who have chosen Bob to ramble on. There lies

the answer what this list is about: Entertaiment.

> > >

> > > Ok then, let's have fun and let's choose Bob as our king !

> > >

> > > Werner

> >

> > Or, let's be nothing!

> >

> > Yay for nothing!!

> >

> > What is it like for nothing to read a list?

> >

> > What does it get from it?

> >

> > What does it have to impart?

> >

> > How can it react?

> >

> > What is a word read to " nothing " ?

> >

> > What is a series of words read to " nothing " ?

> >

> > You cannot and will not become nothing.

> >

> > Never.

> >

> > It doesn't matter how much you read or think or don't think or know or don't

know.

> >

> > Nothing is.

> >

> > And entertainment doesn't add or detract one iota from this " nothing one

is. "

> >

> > Being bored is just another emotional state.

> >

> > Emotional states come and go.

> >

> > " Nothing " is not in any emotional state.

> >

> > " Nothing " is not having emotions to deal with.

> >

> > " Nothing " is not going to " get " what it is to be nothing, because " nothing "

decided to deal with its boredom and no longer fight it through finding

entertainment.

> >

> > " Nothing " is not doing anything, engaging in any emotional states as they

come and go, is not using thought to get somewhere, nor is it gaining more of

what it is when there are no thoughts.

> >

> > Thoughts don't touch other thoughts.

> >

> > Images don't touch other images.

> >

> > Nothing alone is.

> >

> >

> > Peace out,

> >

> > - Dan -

>

>

> IF:

>

> " Nothing alone is " ...

>

> why the hell did you write all that?

>

> get real dabbo.

>

> .b b.b.

 

get real?

 

for real?

 

LOL ...

 

- D -

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Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote:

>

>

>

> Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nisargadatta , " ac " <adithya_comming@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [...]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > it will take more than that to keep my ego in check, buddy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sorry, Bob is all we have one this forum for now. You might need

to do the extra work by yourself or, just let it inflate until it bursts on its

own. i.e. if you really think you have an inflating ego and you really do want

to keep that in check. Else, there is no need.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have no personal problem with your ego or lack of it, I am

simply noting that without Bob, Lene, Geo this forum will become too monotonous

and will become painful for me to read. Of course, that is just my opinion and

my taste.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > [...]

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Yes, indeed,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The entertainment factor of a list like this should be as high as

possible. People get bored so easily and soon will leave to look for another

list offering more fun.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Maybe it would be wise if Hur could install a larger foto section

with sexy girls and handsome men. Also some links to soft- and hardcore porn and

to free mp3 are adviced. On the web there also exist a large amount of cartoon

sites Hur could link to.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Then together with Bob, our resident spiritual clown, this list will

offer lots of fun and entertainment that even could attract more visitors to

sign in.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Huzzah huzzah hurray !

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Life can be so exciting !

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Werner

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Yes, Werner. It is possible to err on the either side. You can make it

all about entertainment and start pornography and such. Or, you can make it all

about monotonous preaching and make it very dull, dry, boring and humorless. In

either case, I think the list will lose its charm and value.

> > > > >

> > > > > I think Bob offers a very valuable, important and interesting

challenge to the " teachings " and by doing so, he sometimes exposes the pitfalls

of the teaching and he also makes the whole experience far more engaging and

revealing than it would be without any witty challenge.

> > > > >

> > > > > I, personally, would have great difficulty in understanding what you

or few other members write here. J. Krishnamurthy was known to be a complex and

" difficult to understand " teacher. You guys sometimes talk in way which is even

more difficult to understand. Understanding it feels like " torture " -

especially, when it becomes too monotonous. It appears to me that you guys might

be too much in love with certain concepts and can't help but jest keep repeating

it in the same monotonous, dry way over and over. Bob sometimes cancels that

through his wit, humor and challenge and sometimes, he breaks it into smaller

pieces that can be easily digested.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > regards,

> > > > > ac

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Thanks, Ac,

> > > >

> > > > Intersting point.

> > > >

> > > > Question: Why is one longing for and needing any challenge at all ?

> > > >

> > > > Is it because our minds are that sluggish and/or depending on outside

stimuli ? Does one constantly need some kick or stimulus to feel alive ?

> > > >

> > > > Do you personally need challenges, AC ?

> > > >

> > > > Because you already mentioned Krishnamurti here is what he said about

boredom:

> > > >

> > > > " Boredom is the threatening dawning realization of what one really is:

Nothing !

> > > >

> > > > That's why one constantly is craving for entertainment and for

challenges as an escape not having to face one's shallowness and nothingness " .

> > > >

> > > > Look at the pulk of people who have chosen Bob to ramble on. There lies

the answer what this list is about: Entertaiment.

> > > >

> > > > Ok then, let's have fun and let's choose Bob as our king !

> > > >

> > > > Werner

> > >

> > > Or, let's be nothing!

> > >

> > > Yay for nothing!!

> > >

> > > What is it like for nothing to read a list?

> > >

> > > What does it get from it?

> > >

> > > What does it have to impart?

> > >

> > > How can it react?

> > >

> > > What is a word read to " nothing " ?

> > >

> > > What is a series of words read to " nothing " ?

> > >

> > > You cannot and will not become nothing.

> > >

> > > Never.

> > >

> > > It doesn't matter how much you read or think or don't think or know or

don't know.

> > >

> > > Nothing is.

> > >

> > > And entertainment doesn't add or detract one iota from this " nothing one

is. "

> > >

> > > Being bored is just another emotional state.

> > >

> > > Emotional states come and go.

> > >

> > > " Nothing " is not in any emotional state.

> > >

> > > " Nothing " is not having emotions to deal with.

> > >

> > > " Nothing " is not going to " get " what it is to be nothing, because

" nothing " decided to deal with its boredom and no longer fight it through

finding entertainment.

> > >

> > > " Nothing " is not doing anything, engaging in any emotional states as they

come and go, is not using thought to get somewhere, nor is it gaining more of

what it is when there are no thoughts.

> > >

> > > Thoughts don't touch other thoughts.

> > >

> > > Images don't touch other images.

> > >

> > > Nothing alone is.

> > >

> > >

> > > Peace out,

> > >

> > > - Dan -

> >

> >

> > IF:

> >

> > " Nothing alone is " ...

> >

> > why the hell did you write all that?

> >

> > get real dabbo.

> >

> > .b b.b.

>

> get real?

>

> for real?

>

> LOL ...

>

> - D -

 

 

that's it dabbo.

 

in more realistic terms..

 

cut the bullshit.

 

and give some thought to trying not to try so hard to be funny.

 

you don't have the stuff for either..

 

the wisdom fluff nor the " gee i'm funny " endeavor.

 

just be the nice kid that you really are..

 

beneath all that vain effort.

 

you'll blow your brains out with the backfires kiddo.

 

:-)

 

..b b.b.

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