Guest guest Report post Posted December 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > There > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > to all " others " . > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > [.bx3] > > you sure do pontificate. > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > but, whatever stance suits you Is it worth pointing out that seeing someone doing something 'over and over' (in time) is also a stance? It's taking a stance that there's time to do something over and over again. Maybe not worth pointing out, but I did it anyway (stance come and gone ;-)). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > Is it worth pointing out that seeing someone doing something 'over and over' (in time) is also a stance? > > It's taking a stance that there's time to do something over and over again. > > Maybe not worth pointing out, but I did it anyway (stance come and gone ;-)). of course " worth " is a judgment. lest it be forgotten.. over and over.. judge not lest ye be so judged. then again (over like rover)... it's best not to pontificate.. but then.. " best " too is but a judgment. nothing there is (good..better...best). it is that baba doesn't know. baba doesn't know anything. yet.. baba knows Nothing. and.. Nothing knows baba. not over and over.. all at Once and of a piece and in Peace. of the above let it be said: this being THAT.. is not a stance.. ...there being Nothing to stand upon..or under...or by. this is the " why " of: " those " who Understand not.. even though " they " themselves are not.. can't help but want to point things out.. even though there are no things. are you listening dabbo? have ye the ears to hear? not likely. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > Is it worth pointing out that seeing someone doing something 'over and over' (in time) is also a stance? > > > > It's taking a stance that there's time to do something over and over again. > > > > Maybe not worth pointing out, but I did it anyway (stance come and gone ;-)). > > > > > of course " worth " is a judgment. > > lest it be forgotten.. > > over and over.. > > judge not lest ye be so judged. Like I said, " stance come and gone " . What isn't a stance, isn't in these words. Even the word " hi " is a stance, the assumption of an existing being to say hello to another, separate existing being. Stances are fine; it's unawareness of what isn't a stance that makes them not-so-fine. One actually believes to be a stance called 'me', a verbal-conceptual entity. There's nothing so pleasant about that, eh? Being in time is an unnecessary burden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 27, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > Is it worth pointing out that seeing someone doing something 'over and over' (in time) is also a stance? > > > > > > It's taking a stance that there's time to do something over and over again. > > > > > > Maybe not worth pointing out, but I did it anyway (stance come and gone ;-)). > > > > > > > > > > of course " worth " is a judgment. > > > > lest it be forgotten.. > > > > over and over.. > > > > judge not lest ye be so judged. (timmytot) : > Like I said, " stance come and gone " . > > What isn't a stance, isn't in these words. (.b b.b.) : i didn't say anything otherwise. i wasn't accusing you of anything. i was merely restating words of the Nazarene. don't be so quick to judge my words.. nor to put false motivation behind them. (shame shame!) why so touchy? do you feel guilty of something [hidden].. or are you feeling sinful? i forgive you. Jesus forgives you. God forgives you. " THAT " forgives you. actually none of the above.. even care about you nor care to forgive or not to forgive you. there's nothing to forgive so.. forgive yourself if you must. (you seem to protest so much) go now and do not sin some more anymore. (timmytot) : > Even the word " hi " is a stance, the assumption of an existing being to say hello to another, separate existing being. (.b b.b.) no need to get long winded in explanation timmy. there's nothing you need defend. not yourself and not your words. neither of those have a leg to stand on.. nor a stand to to put a leg upon. you seem to require a separation of some sort where none exists. actually you need not say hello nor goodbye. neither are requirements.. certainly such pathetic excuses as proffered above are not. nonesuch are needed..called for..commanded or demanded.. well doggone it all..they just aren't necessitated whatsoever. don't involve yourself in this sort of self flagellation. just keep smilin' son. (timmytot) : > Stances are fine; it's unawareness of what isn't a stance that makes them not-so-fine. One actually believes to be a stance called 'me', a verbal-conceptual entity. (.b b.b.) you seem to hold strange beliefs yourself timmytot. like maybe you think the above makes sense. very strange! well probably you just are unaware of this... as you are regarding just about anything which is nothing. neither fine nor not-so-fine. well my goodness that would be judging it. and you know where we stand on that: nowhere. (timmytot) : > There's nothing so pleasant about that, eh? Being in time is an unnecessary burden. (.b b.b.) : believing that there is anything pleasant or unpleasant is a burden. both notions are judgmental folly... caused by the illusion of time.. and the bigger illusion that one is outside of time. there is no burden nor anyone to be burdened. there is no time for time. there is neither pleasant nor unpleasant. but as long as " you " are in bondage to these illusions.. and the need to talk about how " you " aren't.. well we'll just have to put up with this kind of bullshit then. so feel free to spread it all you want. i'm really not there but i'll be there for you.. anyway..anytime..anyhow. such is the Unbelievable Grace..Omniscience..Munificence of baba. no thanks needed nor accepted. ..b b.b. p.s. you may feel free to offer these condolences and Tidings of Joy.. to your palsy dabbo as well. i feel charitabletowards.. and take Boundless pity on to both of your Endless Needs. [.bx3] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > There > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > to all " others " . > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > [.bx3] > > you sure do pontificate. > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > but, whatever stance suits you > > is the one you have taken. > > although, there is no stance to have > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > - D - Heya I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh well I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I know What you are talking about is absolutely nothing " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not even space, let alone " empty space " into which something can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be filled up with something - or IN which something happens or which itself IS something happening Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it does not exist THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy - the illusion has many names and forms and colours We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not ? IT is NOT We are IT - and IT is NOT There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh Happy New Year, dear -Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > - D - > > > > Heya > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > well > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > know > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > or which itself IS something happening > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > does not exist > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > ? > > IT is NOT > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > Happy New Year, dear > > -Lene you're absolutely correct Lene. dabbo can be as wrong as he wants to be. and he can and does freely display that all the time. personally i like the kid. i love to chuckle. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > well > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > know > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > does not exist > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > ? > > > > IT is NOT > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > -Lene > > > you're absolutely correct Lene. > > dabbo can be as wrong as he wants to be. > > and he can and does freely display that all the time. > > personally i like the kid. > > i love to chuckle. Me too - but find it sad when those at whose I am chuckling are unable to get why I am chuckling, you know the guys and dolls and their " this is deadserious bisonness and there is nothing to laugh at!! " and when I go " congrats, you got it! they look like I have stabbed them. Time to get a move on before I start crying -Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > well > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > know > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > does not exist > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > ? > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > you're absolutely correct Lene. > > > > dabbo can be as wrong as he wants to be. > > > > and he can and does freely display that all the time. > > > > personally i like the kid. > > > > i love to chuckle. > > > > Me too - but find it sad when those at whose I am chuckling > are unable to get why I am chuckling, you know the guys and > dolls and their " this is deadserious bisonness and there is > nothing to laugh at!! " and when I go " congrats, you got it! > they look like I have stabbed them. > > Time to get a move on before I start crying > > -Lene it's seen what you mean. but the way it's looked at here is: it's laughing " with " " them " not " at " " them " . " they " just don't know that. " they " think that that the 'Joker' is " other " than " themselves " . it's even funnier seeing " myself " get so upset as " themselves " . then the laughs really start rolling! :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Lene > Nisargadatta > Monday, December 28, 2009 9:04 AM > Re: Relationship > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from > > > > > > > > > > > > this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally > > > > > > > > > > > flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, > > > > > > > > > > > > experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores > > > > > > > > > of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And > > > > > > > > > afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness > > > > > > > > > he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and > > > > > > > > > the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which > > > > > > > > > he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something > > > > > > > > " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept > > > > > > " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there > > > > > > needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never > > > > > > occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and > > > > > > those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > - D - > > Heya > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > well > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > know > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > or which itself IS something happening > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > does not exist > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > ? > > IT is NOT > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > Happy New Year, dear > > -Lene > > But is it present? > -geo- where could it be present for Christ sakes? did you miss what was said entirely or are you being funny? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Monday, December 28, 2009 10:16 AM > Re: Relationship > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape > > > > > > > > > > > > > > literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the > > > > > > > > > > > > > town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the > > > > > > > > > > > > whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. > > > > > > > > > > > > And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for > > > > > > > > > > > > forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend > > > > > > > > > > > > and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, > > > > > > > > > > > > which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking > > > > > > > > > > > goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't > > > > > > > > > > > something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the > > > > > > > > > concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if > > > > > > > > > there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that > > > > > > > > > never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " > > > > > > > > > and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain > > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it > > > > > > > > straight on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell > > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > > well > > > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > > know > > > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > > does not exist > > > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > > ? > > > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > > you're absolutely correct Lene. > > > > > > dabbo can be as wrong as he wants to be. > > > > > > and he can and does freely display that all the time. > > > > > > personally i like the kid. > > > > > > i love to chuckle. > > > > > > > > Me too - but find it sad when those at whose I am chuckling > > are unable to get why I am chuckling, you know the guys and > > dolls and their " this is deadserious bisonness and there is > > nothing to laugh at!! " and when I go " congrats, you got it! > > they look like I have stabbed them. > > > > Time to get a move on before I start crying > > > > -Lene > > it's seen what you mean. > > but the way it's looked at here is: > > it's laughing " with " " them " not " at " " them " . > > " they " just don't know that. > > " they " think that that the 'Joker' is " other " than " themselves " . > > it's even funnier seeing " myself " get so upset as " themselves " . > > then the laughs really start rolling! > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > Yes....you just woke up. Soon you´ll be upset again as before... > -geo- LOL! where do you see baba upset? that's your bag geo. baba laughs. or is this another deep mystery for you? and uhm..geoparado son.. there's no need of waking for the never asleep. but you can't handle that. it's too disturbing for your everlasting nappy poo. rock-a-bye now don't you cry. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 - Lene Nisargadatta Monday, December 28, 2009 9:04 AM Re: Relationship Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > There > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from > > > > > > > > > > > this Being > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally > > > > > > > > > > flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, > > > > > > > > > > > experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores > > > > > > > > of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And > > > > > > > > afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness > > > > > > > > he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and > > > > > > > > the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which > > > > > > > > he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something > > > > > > > " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept > > > > > " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there > > > > > needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never > > > > > occurred. > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and > > > > > those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight > > > > on. > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > to all " others " . > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > p.s. > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > [.bx3] > > you sure do pontificate. > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > but, whatever stance suits you > > is the one you have taken. > > although, there is no stance to have > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > - D - Heya I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh well I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I know What you are talking about is absolutely nothing " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not even space, let alone " empty space " into which something can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be filled up with something - or IN which something happens or which itself IS something happening Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it does not exist THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy - the illusion has many names and forms and colours We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not ? IT is NOT We are IT - and IT is NOT There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh Happy New Year, dear -Lene But is it present? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Monday, December 28, 2009 1:49 PM > Re: Relationship > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Lene > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, December 28, 2009 9:04 AM > > Re: Relationship > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape > > > > > > > > > > > > literally > > > > > > > > > > > > flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the > > > > > > > > > > whores > > > > > > > > > > of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And > > > > > > > > > > afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness > > > > > > > > > > he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and > > > > > > > > > > the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept > > > > > > > " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there > > > > > > > needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never > > > > > > > occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and > > > > > > > those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > - D - > > > > Heya > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > well > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > know > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > does not exist > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > ? > > > > IT is NOT > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > -Lene > > > > But is it present? > > -geo- > > where could it be present for Christ sakes? > > did you miss what was said entirely or are you being funny? > > .b b.b. > > No I did not miss it. There is no expression that can point, define, > describe this. And I dont think you are doing a much better job trying > either. > -geo- baba is not " trying " to do anything Son of Brazil. that's your sad estate. try try try. i said explicitly that there is no trying or description possible. that was in: " where could it be present for Christ sakes? " what's your problem? you certainly don't catch on and you sure as hell don't make sense. it's not baba's job.. to do anything for you or anybody including himself. there is NOTHING that can be done dummy! you still believe you have choices and mysteries to solve. what a revolting place to live. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 - BobN Nisargadatta Monday, December 28, 2009 10:16 AM Re: Relationship Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " > > > > > > > > > > > > <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flows from this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape > > > > > > > > > > > > > literally flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eternity, experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the > > > > > > > > > > > > town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the > > > > > > > > > > > whores of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. > > > > > > > > > > > And afterwards when visiting the church to ask for > > > > > > > > > > > forgiveness he is the church and he is the reverend > > > > > > > > > > > and the bible and the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, > > > > > > > > > > > which he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking > > > > > > > > > > goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't > > > > > > > > > > something " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the > > > > > > > > concept " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if > > > > > > > > there needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that > > > > > > > > never occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " > > > > > > > > and those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain > > > > > > > > point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it > > > > > > > straight on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell > > > > > you. > > > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > well > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > know > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > does not exist > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > ? > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > you're absolutely correct Lene. > > > > dabbo can be as wrong as he wants to be. > > > > and he can and does freely display that all the time. > > > > personally i like the kid. > > > > i love to chuckle. > > > > Me too - but find it sad when those at whose I am chuckling > are unable to get why I am chuckling, you know the guys and > dolls and their " this is deadserious bisonness and there is > nothing to laugh at!! " and when I go " congrats, you got it! > they look like I have stabbed them. > > Time to get a move on before I start crying > > -Lene it's seen what you mean. but the way it's looked at here is: it's laughing " with " " them " not " at " " them " . " they " just don't know that. " they " think that that the 'Joker' is " other " than " themselves " . it's even funnier seeing " myself " get so upset as " themselves " . then the laughs really start rolling! :-) ..b b.b. Yes....you just woke up. Soon you´ll be upset again as before... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 - BobN Nisargadatta Monday, December 28, 2009 1:49 PM Re: Relationship Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Lene > Nisargadatta > Monday, December 28, 2009 9:04 AM > Re: Relationship > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape > > > > > > > > > > > literally > > > > > > > > > > > flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, > > > > > > > > > > > > experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the > > > > > > > > > whores > > > > > > > > > of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And > > > > > > > > > afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness > > > > > > > > > he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and > > > > > > > > > the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept > > > > > > " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there > > > > > > needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never > > > > > > occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and > > > > > > those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > - D - > > Heya > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > well > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > know > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > or which itself IS something happening > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > does not exist > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > ? > > IT is NOT > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > Happy New Year, dear > > -Lene > > But is it present? > -geo- where could it be present for Christ sakes? did you miss what was said entirely or are you being funny? ..b b.b. No I did not miss it. There is no expression that can point, define, describe this. And I dont think you are doing a much better job trying either. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 - BobN Nisargadatta Monday, December 28, 2009 2:24 PM Re: Relationship Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Monday, December 28, 2009 1:49 PM > Re: Relationship > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Lene > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, December 28, 2009 9:04 AM > > Re: Relationship > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " > > > > > > > > > > > <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape > > > > > > > > > > > > literally > > > > > > > > > > > > flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy > > > > > > > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the > > > > > > > > > > whores > > > > > > > > > > of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And > > > > > > > > > > afterwards when visiting the church to ask for > > > > > > > > > > forgiveness > > > > > > > > > > he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept > > > > > > > " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never > > > > > > > occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it > > > > > > straight > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > - D - > > > > Heya > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > well > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > know > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > does not exist > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > ? > > > > IT is NOT > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > -Lene > > > > But is it present? > > -geo- > > where could it be present for Christ sakes? > > did you miss what was said entirely or are you being funny? > > .b b.b. > > No I did not miss it. There is no expression that can point, define, > describe this. And I dont think you are doing a much better job trying > either. > -geo- baba is not " trying " to do anything Son of Brazil. that's your sad estate. try try try. i said explicitly that there is no trying or description possible. that was in: " where could it be present for Christ sakes? " geo> There is no need for a place for IT to be present. what's your problem? geo> I dont know. you certainly don't catch on and you sure as hell don't make sense. geo> to you...honey... it's not baba's job.. to do anything for you or anybody including himself. there is NOTHING that can be done dummy! geo> That is just your theory. Now and then you tell people that you are helping them...awwwwghh... you still believe you have choices and mysteries to solve. what a revolting place to live. :-) ..b b.b. geo> To solve?? No. Contemplate. As a human being there is contemplation as opposed to concentration...or analysis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > Heya > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > well > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > know > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > or which itself IS something happening > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > does not exist > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > ? > > IT is NOT > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > Happy New Year, dear > > -Lene Yes, Lene, we speak. And our speaking arises if/as/from/by this. Which is absolutely nothing. And relatively everything. So, " is " and " is not, " " exists " and " does not exist, " don't pertain as categories in the sense of any dividing lines. Yes, you are free to be. One is freedom. Nothing has ever been said about this. And everything can be said, however it is said. One is this. No division of this and one. No choice involved. Choices are just ways of speaking about things that happen. Do things really happen? Yes, no. What are yes and no but categories of affirmation or negation? Does it matter if you hurt someone? Is it important to care? Is there something to care about? Just who one is. One's being. The caring isn't toward something. What matters isn't a thing. So, love is the automatic recognition of being as being without any distance. Just awareness. Open, undivided, indivisible. Do words cheapen this? Does painting a sunset cheapen it? - Dan - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > BobN > Nisargadatta > Monday, December 28, 2009 2:24 PM > Re: Relationship > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > BobN > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, December 28, 2009 1:49 PM > > Re: Relationship > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > Lene > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, December 28, 2009 9:04 AM > > > Re: Relationship > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " > > > > > > > > > > > > <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape > > > > > > > > > > > > > literally > > > > > > > > > > > > > flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the > > > > > > > > > > > whores > > > > > > > > > > > of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And > > > > > > > > > > > afterwards when visiting the church to ask for > > > > > > > > > > > forgiveness > > > > > > > > > > > he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, > > > > > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't > > > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > > " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept > > > > > > > > " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never > > > > > > > > occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it > > > > > > > straight > > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > well > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > know > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > does not exist > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > ? > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > But is it present? > > > -geo- > > > > where could it be present for Christ sakes? > > > > did you miss what was said entirely or are you being funny? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > No I did not miss it. There is no expression that can point, define, > > describe this. And I dont think you are doing a much better job trying > > either. > > -geo- > > baba is not " trying " to do anything Son of Brazil. > > that's your sad estate. > > try try try. > > i said explicitly that there is no trying or description possible. > > that was in: > > " where could it be present for Christ sakes? " > > geo> There is no need for a place for IT to be present. > > what's your problem? > > geo> I dont know. > > you certainly don't catch on and you sure as hell don't make sense. > > geo> to you...honey... > > it's not baba's job.. > > to do anything for you or anybody including himself. > > there is NOTHING that can be done dummy! > > geo> That is just your theory. Now and then you tell people that you are > helping them...awwwwghh... > > you still believe you have choices and mysteries to solve. > > what a revolting place to live. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > > geo> To solve?? No. Contemplate. As a human being there is contemplation as > opposed to concentration...or analysis. contemplate???...YOU???? hahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! good one geopardo! and you say you can contemplate(heehee)..without concentrating too! LOL! i tell ya kiddo.. you're the best comic relief there is. you may very well need a little of that analysis you're afraid of too. look under psychoanalysts in the phone book. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > Heya > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > well > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > know > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > does not exist > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > ? > > > > IT is NOT > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > -Lene > > Yes, Lene, we speak. > > And our speaking arises if/as/from/by this. > > Which is absolutely nothing. > > And relatively everything. > > So, " is " and " is not, " " exists " and " does not exist, " don't pertain as categories in the sense of any dividing lines. > > Yes, you are free to be. > > One is freedom. > > Nothing has ever been said about this. > > And everything can be said, however it is said. > > One is this. > > No division of this and one. > > No choice involved. > > Choices are just ways of speaking about things that happen. > > Do things really happen? > > Yes, no. > > What are yes and no but categories of affirmation or negation? > > Does it matter if you hurt someone? > > Is it important to care? > > Is there something to care about? > > Just who one is. > > One's being. > > The caring isn't toward something. > > What matters isn't a thing. > > So, love is the automatic recognition of being as being without any distance. Just awareness. Open, undivided, indivisible. > > Do words cheapen this? > > Does painting a sunset cheapen it? > > - Dan - still concentrating on judging stuff huh dabbo. like what's cheap or not..holy or not...wise or not? still thinking some " things " " matter " and some do not? still bit of a snob are we bucko? still trying to preach to the choir huh? still feeling such great need to appear wholesome and aware eh? still making a little fool of yourself hey dabbo? figures. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > well > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > know > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > does not exist > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > ? > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > -Lene > > > > Yes, Lene, we speak. > > > > And our speaking arises if/as/from/by this. > > > > Which is absolutely nothing. > > > > And relatively everything. > > > > So, " is " and " is not, " " exists " and " does not exist, " don't pertain as categories in the sense of any dividing lines. > > > > Yes, you are free to be. > > > > One is freedom. > > > > Nothing has ever been said about this. > > > > And everything can be said, however it is said. > > > > One is this. > > > > No division of this and one. > > > > No choice involved. > > > > Choices are just ways of speaking about things that happen. > > > > Do things really happen? > > > > Yes, no. > > > > What are yes and no but categories of affirmation or negation? > > > > Does it matter if you hurt someone? > > > > Is it important to care? > > > > Is there something to care about? > > > > Just who one is. > > > > One's being. > > > > The caring isn't toward something. > > > > What matters isn't a thing. > > > > So, love is the automatic recognition of being as being without any distance. Just awareness. Open, undivided, indivisible. > > > > Do words cheapen this? > > > > Does painting a sunset cheapen it? > > > > - Dan - > > > still concentrating on judging stuff huh dabbo. > > like what's cheap or not..holy or not...wise or not? > > still thinking some " things " " matter " and some do not? > > still bit of a snob are we bucko? > > still trying to preach to the choir huh? > > still feeling such great need to appear wholesome and aware eh? > > still making a little fool of yourself hey dabbo? > > figures. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. No, not at all. - Dan - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > > well > > > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > > know > > > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > > does not exist > > > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > > ? > > > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > Yes, Lene, we speak. > > > > > > And our speaking arises if/as/from/by this. > > > > > > Which is absolutely nothing. > > > > > > And relatively everything. > > > > > > So, " is " and " is not, " " exists " and " does not exist, " don't pertain as categories in the sense of any dividing lines. > > > > > > Yes, you are free to be. > > > > > > One is freedom. > > > > > > Nothing has ever been said about this. > > > > > > And everything can be said, however it is said. > > > > > > One is this. > > > > > > No division of this and one. > > > > > > No choice involved. > > > > > > Choices are just ways of speaking about things that happen. > > > > > > Do things really happen? > > > > > > Yes, no. > > > > > > What are yes and no but categories of affirmation or negation? > > > > > > Does it matter if you hurt someone? > > > > > > Is it important to care? > > > > > > Is there something to care about? > > > > > > Just who one is. > > > > > > One's being. > > > > > > The caring isn't toward something. > > > > > > What matters isn't a thing. > > > > > > So, love is the automatic recognition of being as being without any distance. Just awareness. Open, undivided, indivisible. > > > > > > Do words cheapen this? > > > > > > Does painting a sunset cheapen it? > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > still concentrating on judging stuff huh dabbo. > > > > like what's cheap or not..holy or not...wise or not? > > > > still thinking some " things " " matter " and some do not? > > > > still bit of a snob are we bucko? > > > > still trying to preach to the choir huh? > > > > still feeling such great need to appear wholesome and aware eh? > > > > still making a little fool of yourself hey dabbo? > > > > figures. > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > No, not at all. > > - Dan - bullshit. i told you before.. you can't handle the truth. proof positive! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 28, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > > > does not exist > > > > > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > Yes, Lene, we speak. > > > > > > > > And our speaking arises if/as/from/by this. > > > > > > > > Which is absolutely nothing. > > > > > > > > And relatively everything. > > > > > > > > So, " is " and " is not, " " exists " and " does not exist, " don't pertain as categories in the sense of any dividing lines. > > > > > > > > Yes, you are free to be. > > > > > > > > One is freedom. > > > > > > > > Nothing has ever been said about this. > > > > > > > > And everything can be said, however it is said. > > > > > > > > One is this. > > > > > > > > No division of this and one. > > > > > > > > No choice involved. > > > > > > > > Choices are just ways of speaking about things that happen. > > > > > > > > Do things really happen? > > > > > > > > Yes, no. > > > > > > > > What are yes and no but categories of affirmation or negation? > > > > > > > > Does it matter if you hurt someone? > > > > > > > > Is it important to care? > > > > > > > > Is there something to care about? > > > > > > > > Just who one is. > > > > > > > > One's being. > > > > > > > > The caring isn't toward something. > > > > > > > > What matters isn't a thing. > > > > > > > > So, love is the automatic recognition of being as being without any distance. Just awareness. Open, undivided, indivisible. > > > > > > > > Do words cheapen this? > > > > > > > > Does painting a sunset cheapen it? > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > still concentrating on judging stuff huh dabbo. > > > > > > like what's cheap or not..holy or not...wise or not? > > > > > > still thinking some " things " " matter " and some do not? > > > > > > still bit of a snob are we bucko? > > > > > > still trying to preach to the choir huh? > > > > > > still feeling such great need to appear wholesome and aware eh? > > > > > > still making a little fool of yourself hey dabbo? > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > No, not at all. > > > > - Dan - > > > bullshit. > > i told you before.. > > you can't handle the truth. > > proof positive! > > .b b.b. you told somebody. it wasn't me, though. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Heya > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > > > > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > > > > > well > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > > > > > know > > > > > > > > > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > > > > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > > > > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > > > > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > > > > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > > > > > does not exist > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > > > > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > > > > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > > > > > > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > > > > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > > > > > > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > > > > > > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > > > > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > > > > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > > > > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > IT is NOT > > > > > > > > > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > > > > > > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > > > > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > > > > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > > > > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > > > > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Lene, we speak. > > > > > > > > > > And our speaking arises if/as/from/by this. > > > > > > > > > > Which is absolutely nothing. > > > > > > > > > > And relatively everything. > > > > > > > > > > So, " is " and " is not, " " exists " and " does not exist, " don't pertain as categories in the sense of any dividing lines. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, you are free to be. > > > > > > > > > > One is freedom. > > > > > > > > > > Nothing has ever been said about this. > > > > > > > > > > And everything can be said, however it is said. > > > > > > > > > > One is this. > > > > > > > > > > No division of this and one. > > > > > > > > > > No choice involved. > > > > > > > > > > Choices are just ways of speaking about things that happen. > > > > > > > > > > Do things really happen? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, no. > > > > > > > > > > What are yes and no but categories of affirmation or negation? > > > > > > > > > > Does it matter if you hurt someone? > > > > > > > > > > Is it important to care? > > > > > > > > > > Is there something to care about? > > > > > > > > > > Just who one is. > > > > > > > > > > One's being. > > > > > > > > > > The caring isn't toward something. > > > > > > > > > > What matters isn't a thing. > > > > > > > > > > So, love is the automatic recognition of being as being without any distance. Just awareness. Open, undivided, indivisible. > > > > > > > > > > Do words cheapen this? > > > > > > > > > > Does painting a sunset cheapen it? > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > still concentrating on judging stuff huh dabbo. > > > > > > > > like what's cheap or not..holy or not...wise or not? > > > > > > > > still thinking some " things " " matter " and some do not? > > > > > > > > still bit of a snob are we bucko? > > > > > > > > still trying to preach to the choir huh? > > > > > > > > still feeling such great need to appear wholesome and aware eh? > > > > > > > > still making a little fool of yourself hey dabbo? > > > > > > > > figures. > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > No, not at all. > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > bullshit. > > > > i told you before.. > > > > you can't handle the truth. > > > > proof positive! > > > > .b b.b. > > you told somebody. > > it wasn't me, though. > > - D - no..i told you. and not so long ago. do you need the post #? i'll go back and check if you wish. i'll be glad to help you out. you need all the help you can get. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > you're absolutely correct Lene. > > > > > > dabbo can be as wrong as he wants to be. > > > > > > and he can and does freely display that all the time. > > > > > > personally i like the kid. > > > > > > i love to chuckle. > > > > > > > > Me too - but find it sad when those at whose I am chuckling > > are unable to get why I am chuckling, you know the guys and > > dolls and their " this is deadserious bisonness and there is > > nothing to laugh at!! " and when I go " congrats, you got it! > > they look like I have stabbed them. > > > > Time to get a move on before I start crying > > > > -Lene > > > it's seen what you mean. > > but the way it's looked at here is: > > it's laughing " with " " them " not " at " " them " . > > " they " just don't know that. > > " they " think that that the 'Joker' is " other " than " themselves " . > > it's even funnier seeing " myself " get so upset as " themselves " . > > then the laughs really start rolling! Agreed What was meant by " at whose " - I never said whose what? - was the what that is the way they take themselves seriously which prevents them from laughing at themselves - because - but you said it already. Obviously no need to explain anything to you, baba - you know it all. Cheers mama Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Lene > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, December 28, 2009 9:04 AM > > Re: Relationship > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " wwoehr " <wwoehr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The love and joy of relationship is that it flows from > > > > > > > > > > > > > this Being > > > > > > > > > > > > > and is this Being in its entirety - all along - > > > > > > > > > > > > > undivided. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just riding in a car and feeling the landscape literally > > > > > > > > > > > > flow through one is a joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, nothingness, allness, relatedness, eternity, > > > > > > > > > > > > > experiencing in > > > > > > > > > > > > > time - perfect equality and nondivision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The eternity that is present is palpable in every > > > > > > > > > > > > > aspect of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whatever appearance appears. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love to All -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love back at ya, Dan... happy holidays, and happy Now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Happy Now to you, Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attitudes of the past have no entry here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fragmentation never happened, regardless of the > > > > > > > > > > > attempts of ghosts to hold onto it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is this shining one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quinn the Eskimo didn't get to town - he is the town. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and he is the brothel of the town and he is the whores > > > > > > > > > > of brothel and hes is the preservatvie he uses. And > > > > > > > > > > afterwards when visiting the church to ask for forgiveness > > > > > > > > > > he is the church and he is the reverend and the bible and > > > > > > > > > > the ringing bells. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But what is Dan ? He is all that non-dual bs he wrote, which > > > > > > > > > > he does write and will go on writing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not really. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe in the mind of Werner, that's how the thinking goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that's all that's shared here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Words that show the thinking in a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, is not produced by any mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nor does it have a mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what is so, won't be derived from any words here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether the word be " dual " or " nondual. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is, neither " is " nor " is not " - certainly isn't something > > > > > > > > > " nondual " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " is a negation, meaning " not two " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If 'what is' isn't non-dual, it's dual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that calling it 'dual' isn't right. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " does the trick OK, in my book. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What trick is that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If what is simply is, and isn't contained by even the concept > > > > > > > " is " - then " nondual " really overcomplicates it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Nondual " negates something that never was the case, as if there > > > > > > > needs to be some kind of negation of a duality that never > > > > > > > occurred. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It just adds in another duality, those who get " nonduality " and > > > > > > > those who don't. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, well, you just gotta have a big laugh at a certain point. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What a circus! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Dan - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YOU over-complicate it dabbo. > > > > > > > > > > > > and you never tire of trying to be ever so full.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of your bullshit pathetic poignancy which you think is > > > > > > Understanding. > > > > > > > > > > > > you create your own silly circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're not of the magi class kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > i'd say you belong to the clown arena though. > > > > > > > > > > > > isness is isness with and without dualityness LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > you must crap your pants sometimes thinking you've hit it straight > > > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > > OMG! > > > > > > > > > > > > it's a sorry but laughable sight. > > > > > > > > > > > > well dabbo..we all enjoy your clown act at the circus. > > > > > > > > > > > > hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > > > > > > > what a treat of a Christmas gift: > > > > > > > > > > > > another stab at the un-stabable by dabby himself! > > > > > > > > > > > > Beautiness! > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the beauty. > > > > > > > > > > It's magnificent, isn't it? > > > > > > > > > > No complications anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > except when you try to identify with it... > > > > > > > > then go on and try and explain it.. > > > > > > > > to all " others " . > > > > > > > > " you " separate from " It " at that very moment. > > > > > > > > and dabbo.. > > > > > > > > that's what " you " are forever " doing " . > > > > > > > > that's why it's made complicated. > > > > > > > > just be the normal filthy animal that is. > > > > > > > > quit trying to be holy and profound. > > > > > > > > you really f*ck " " It " up with that silly shit of " yours " . > > > > > > > > when things are left to be as they are.. > > > > > > > > then and ONLY then.. > > > > > > > > is the " Tao " ..or " Beauty " ..or " THAT " ..or " (Anything-ness) " > > > > > > > > or whatever silly " name " is put to " It " .. > > > > > > > > actually Manifest. > > > > > > > > It's the Way..it's supposed to be because.. > > > > > > > > it's the way...it is. > > > > > > > > dumb-asses that try to be Voices in the Desert.. > > > > > > > > are merely clowns in the circus. > > > > > > > > dab..you can't see the forest for the trees of your bullshit. > > > > > > > > and THAT dabbo..is all baba is or has been EVER trying to tell you. > > > > > > > > and it's for your own sake kiddo. > > > > > > > > no matter how hard nose or rank you think it seems. > > > > > > > > the slaps i give you.. > > > > > > > > are the most kind and grandfatherly caresses possible. > > > > > > > > that you don't understand this.. > > > > > > > > is the Purest evidence of your derangement. > > > > > > > > get with " IT " by getting away from it son. > > > > > > > > ultimately you'll have no choice. > > > > > > > > and all that swell and holy bullshit talk will be dropped. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > p.s. > > > > > > > > there is nothing magnificent.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing beautiful.. > > > > > > > > there is nothing complicated nor simple.. > > > > > > > > WHERE there is no judgment. > > > > > > > > you are not THERE dabbo. > > > > > > > > [.bx3] > > > > > > you sure do pontificate. > > > > > > negating things and beings that aren't there, over and over. > > > > > > but, whatever stance suits you > > > > > > is the one you have taken. > > > > > > although, there is no stance to have > > > > > > and therefore nothing to negate. > > > > > > - D - > > > > Heya > > > > I do not quite know where to throw my twopenny - so why > > not into this well can be as good as any other well, oh > > well > > > > I think I know what you're talking about Dan, I think I > > know > > > > What you are talking about is absolutely nothing > > > > " Absolutely nothing " is absolutely nothing - meaning not > > even space, let alone " empty space " into which something > > can be stuffed, a " ready-for-whatever " space that can be > > filled up with something - or IN which something happens > > or which itself IS something happening > > > > Absolutely nothing is absolutely nothing! It IS not - it > > does not exist > > > > THAT - translate: nothing - is we, you, me, space, world, > > consciousness existance, being, dream, illusion, fantasy > > - the illusion has many names and forms and colours > > > > We do - iow - not exist. The cup does not exist, this pc > > does not exist; there is NO being, there is NO existance > > > > And there is NO explanation, there is NOTHING to explain > > > > It is NOT that NOTHING is aware or conscious as how could > > NOTHING be SOMETHING like consciousness or awareness - or > > relative (relation) or absolute (immovable)? How could it > > BE, letalone be SOMEthing when the fact is that it is not > > ? > > > > IT is NOT > > > > We are IT - and IT is NOT > > > > There is NOTHING to talk about - and since we are aware of > > this - since we know we do not exist - we can talk exactly > > as we wish - and say what we want, and do what we like and > > that is absolute-ly nostra-terra-fic; halleluja, heh heh > > > > Happy New Year, dear > > > > -Lene > > > > But is it present? > > -geo- > > > > > where could it be present for Christ sakes? > > did you miss what was said entirely or are you being funny? > > .b b.b. Check -Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 29, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > you're absolutely correct Lene. > > > > > > > > dabbo can be as wrong as he wants to be. > > > > > > > > and he can and does freely display that all the time. > > > > > > > > personally i like the kid. > > > > > > > > i love to chuckle. > > > > > > > > > > > > Me too - but find it sad when those at whose I am chuckling > > > are unable to get why I am chuckling, you know the guys and > > > dolls and their " this is deadserious bisonness and there is > > > nothing to laugh at!! " and when I go " congrats, you got it! > > > they look like I have stabbed them. > > > > > > Time to get a move on before I start crying > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > it's seen what you mean. > > > > but the way it's looked at here is: > > > > it's laughing " with " " them " not " at " " them " . > > > > " they " just don't know that. > > > > " they " think that that the 'Joker' is " other " than " themselves " . > > > > it's even funnier seeing " myself " get so upset as " themselves " . > > > > then the laughs really start rolling! > > > > Agreed > > What was meant by " at whose " - I never said whose what? - was > the what that is the way they take themselves seriously which > prevents them from laughing at themselves - because - but you > said it already. Obviously no need to explain anything to you, > baba - you know it all. > > Cheers > mama no no mama mia.. baba doesn't know anything (as mentioned before). baba knows Nothing.. Nothing knows baba. thus Arises: baba: the non-dual blabber...laughing all the Way! LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
