Guest guest Report post Posted December 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: If you want a good laugh, watch this. That > > > > > > > > > > > > > is so you! I didn't you were on youtube. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCU5uplB4A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How the hell did you dig this up? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hilarious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm so Zen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I make the power of now look like the power of then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This guy is my new master. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that guy isn't your master danny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he IS you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not that cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh that's right.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you need heroes don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and being cool is really important for you too huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now you even grade levels of cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wow! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are stuck then aren't you kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, it's a tough place to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and all these damn heroes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what to do, what to do ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's nothing " you " can " do " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " can " do " nothing " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (a danny kind of repetition there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but even with that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > danny just can't seem to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's almost like wasting piano lessons on him! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plunk..plunk..plunk.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's because there isn't a danny to get to learn anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > sheesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > but keep trying if it's fun for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > plunk yer magic twanger, froggy. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > " Some day I'll find it... the rainbow connection... > > > > > > > > > > The lovers, the dreamers, and ..... > > > > > > > > > > me? " > > > > > > > > > > > > " Some day I'll be it > > > > > > > > The rainbow connection > > > > > > > > The love, The dream > > > > > > > > Without the me " > > > > > > There's never a real me, because a real me would involve an actual division in what is so. > > > > > > So, all the me's going me's going " look at me " in many various ways, are just movements along with all the moving. > > > > > > There's only is. > > > > > > - D > > > > > > > > not even that. > > > > " is " isn't. > > > > .b b.b. > > so how could you add a n't to it, then? > > - D - well dabby.. i didn't. i can do nothing. it is done...or it isn't. yet there's no it to add n't to. just so..... ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > And there only seems to be identification with the body. > > > > > > There can't be true identification, because nothing is separate from it, to identify with it. > > > > > > There is just a survival tendency to the body, and this tendency gets interpreted as identification. > > > > > > The forms are in constant flux. > > > > > > That which isn't in flux, isn't saying anything about itself. > > > > > > Anything talking about itself is a form. > > > > > > And the form is in flux, so what it's saying doesn't hold any water. > > > > > > - Dab - > > > > > > well dab.. > > > > do you think saying that helps " you " survive? > > > > doesn't. > > > > .b b.b. > > a little dab'll do ya. > > > no, there is nothing that helps the " me " survive. > > having never been able to even be conceived. > > the only thing it has is its grasping, and grasping is all it is. > > the reality it held, wasn't. > > - D - if that's so.. why do you yap on and on and on? you do it to survive. don't kid yourself. you don't kid anyone else. LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: If you want a good laugh, watch this. That > > > > > > > > > > > > > is so you! I didn't you were on youtube. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCU5uplB4A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How the hell did you dig this up? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hilarious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm so Zen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I make the power of now look like the power of then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This guy is my new master. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that guy isn't your master danny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he IS you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not that cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh that's right.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you need heroes don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and being cool is really important for you too huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now you even grade levels of cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wow! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are stuck then aren't you kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, it's a tough place to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and all these damn heroes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what to do, what to do ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's nothing " you " can " do " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " can " do " nothing " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (a danny kind of repetition there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but even with that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > danny just can't seem to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's almost like wasting piano lessons on him! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plunk..plunk..plunk.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's because there isn't a danny to get to learn anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > sheesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > but keep trying if it's fun for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > plunk yer magic twanger, froggy. > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > " Some day I'll find it... the rainbow connection... > > > > > > > > > > The lovers, the dreamers, and ..... > > > > > > > > > > me? " > > > > > > > > > > > > " Some day I'll be it > > > > > > > > The rainbow connection > > > > > > > > The love, The dream > > > > > > > > Without the me " > > > > > > Not someday... it's already the case, and either being resisted or not ;-). > > > > > > Everyone says they want to be without the 'me', but it's rarely so. > > > > > > > > I do not know about everyone. > > > > I barely know about me. > > > > There are so many different ways, in which to say what I am and > > I do not know which one is THE right one, and so I just deliver > > as many as possible, one at a time. > > > > Here is one of them: > > > > There is one (not many) consciousness - one (not many) being. > > > > One being appears as multiple different forms, shapes, colours > > and every single form is one (unique; unique does not mean the > > various forms can stand alone, be without the others; it means > > they are one and the same, appearing as fragments). > > > > Without the form, no being, no consciousness. So being as such > > is nothing without the form - and if you ask like I did myself > > last night: why? Why consciousness? Why being? Why is it? Just > > go and watch something beautiful and you will know why you are > > - the question answers itself when there's overwhelming beauty. > > Take walks in nature away from other people. > > > > This body is such a form. The way one communicates with one is > > via language. There're just as many forms of language as there > > are forms of being. > > > > That's it and that's that. > > > > I can not explain the reason why there is identification with > > the form. > > > > But I know that it's due to the pain and the misery that comes > > with the identification with the form which makes for division > > that there's an occasional wish to stop existing, cease to be, > > or at least be without the 'me' which is the ID. > > > > Then imagine what happens when I find out that I do not exist! > > There is no me! There is no you! There are no we! There is but > > ONE - one as in: being/consciousness. > > > > Another reason for misery is the constant thinking/speculating > > and reflection on being. The number of reflections do decrease > > however, when there is realising that there is no me behind be > > ing. There's no creator, no self, no soul, no ego, there is no > > maker of being/consciousness. > > > > There is but being/consciousness appearing in/as various forms > > /shapes and colours. One appearing as many. > > > > The single form is NOT a single (outstanding) form -- it would > > not exist and be, were it not for the other forms. To be is to > > relate - various forms of one in a relationship - is being, is > > consciousness. > > > > Identification with the body in order for it to survive for as > > long as possible in order to be able to enjoy life before it's > > all over, you say? > > > > Ha. Say I. Guess why. Your turn. Over ... > > > > -Lene > > > don't be anyone. > > be happy. > > don't worry. > > So Be It. > > :-) > > .b b.b. Alrighty Bobji I wish you a merry christmas I wish you a merry christmas I wish you a merry christmas phew - where am i now - ayes And a happy new year Counts for all the folks here Love Lene Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Lene " <lschwabe@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P: If you want a good laugh, watch this. That > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is so you! I didn't you were on youtube. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gCU5uplB4A > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I love it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How the hell did you dig this up? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hilarious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm so Zen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I make the power of now look like the power of then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This guy is my new master. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that guy isn't your master danny. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he IS you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not that cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > oh that's right.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you need heroes don't you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and being cool is really important for you too huh? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now you even grade levels of cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wow! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are stuck then aren't you kid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, it's a tough place to be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > me and all these damn heroes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what to do, what to do ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there's nothing " you " can " do " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " can " do " nothing " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (a danny kind of repetition there) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but even with that.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > danny just can't seem to learn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's almost like wasting piano lessons on him! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plunk..plunk..plunk.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's because there isn't a danny to get to learn anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sheesh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but keep trying if it's fun for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whoever you are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > plunk yer magic twanger, froggy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - D - > > > > > > > > > > > > " Some day I'll find it... the rainbow connection... > > > > > > > > > > > > The lovers, the dreamers, and ..... > > > > > > > > > > > > me? " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Some day I'll be it > > > > > > > > > > The rainbow connection > > > > > > > > > > The love, The dream > > > > > > > > > > Without the me " > > > > > > > > Not someday... it's already the case, and either being resisted or not ;-). > > > > > > > > Everyone says they want to be without the 'me', but it's rarely so. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know about everyone. > > > > > > I barely know about me. > > > > > > There are so many different ways, in which to say what I am and > > > I do not know which one is THE right one, and so I just deliver > > > as many as possible, one at a time. > > > > > > Here is one of them: > > > > > > There is one (not many) consciousness - one (not many) being. > > > > > > One being appears as multiple different forms, shapes, colours > > > and every single form is one (unique; unique does not mean the > > > various forms can stand alone, be without the others; it means > > > they are one and the same, appearing as fragments). > > > > > > Without the form, no being, no consciousness. So being as such > > > is nothing without the form - and if you ask like I did myself > > > last night: why? Why consciousness? Why being? Why is it? Just > > > go and watch something beautiful and you will know why you are > > > - the question answers itself when there's overwhelming beauty. > > > Take walks in nature away from other people. > > > > > > This body is such a form. The way one communicates with one is > > > via language. There're just as many forms of language as there > > > are forms of being. > > > > > > That's it and that's that. > > > > > > I can not explain the reason why there is identification with > > > the form. > > > > > > But I know that it's due to the pain and the misery that comes > > > with the identification with the form which makes for division > > > that there's an occasional wish to stop existing, cease to be, > > > or at least be without the 'me' which is the ID. > > > > > > Then imagine what happens when I find out that I do not exist! > > > There is no me! There is no you! There are no we! There is but > > > ONE - one as in: being/consciousness. > > > > > > Another reason for misery is the constant thinking/speculating > > > and reflection on being. The number of reflections do decrease > > > however, when there is realising that there is no me behind be > > > ing. There's no creator, no self, no soul, no ego, there is no > > > maker of being/consciousness. > > > > > > There is but being/consciousness appearing in/as various forms > > > /shapes and colours. One appearing as many. > > > > > > The single form is NOT a single (outstanding) form -- it would > > > not exist and be, were it not for the other forms. To be is to > > > relate - various forms of one in a relationship - is being, is > > > consciousness. > > > > > > Identification with the body in order for it to survive for as > > > long as possible in order to be able to enjoy life before it's > > > all over, you say? > > > > > > Ha. Say I. Guess why. Your turn. Over ... > > > > > > -Lene > > > > > > don't be anyone. > > > > be happy. > > > > don't worry. > > > > So Be It. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Alrighty Bobji > > I wish you a merry christmas > I wish you a merry christmas > I wish you a merry christmas > > phew - where am i now - ayes > > And a happy new year > > Counts for all the folks here > > Love > Lene :-) MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.. and TO TO THAT GOOD NIGHT ALL. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > :-) > > MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.. > > and > > TO TO THAT GOOD NIGHT ALL. > > .b b.b. Happy Kwanza. Goodnight b. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 21, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " BobN " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > :-) > > > > MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL.. > > > > and > > > > TO TO THAT GOOD NIGHT ALL. > > > > .b b.b. > > Happy Kwanza. > > Goodnight b. > > - D - you didn't understand...AGAIN! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
