Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2009 >A: Thank you for your offerings Pete... as usual, they're a little bit... > off... ;-) p; Off is my favorite color, on is too harsh. Did you know Sept. And Oct. are the hottest months here? I'm a Virgo too, and when I lived in Chicago, Sept was the best month of the year. Here, today, the sunlight feels like a million tiny flames liking my skin. The desert wind is like dragon breath, and to step outdoors feels like being baked like a loaf of bread. > > >A: *WHAT IS OF NOTE IS THIS: 140 MILLION PEOPLE OF BANGLADESH MADE PLEDGES. CAN WE DO LESS THAN FOLKS WHO HAVE MUCH LESS?????????? P: It's easy to be frugal earning two dollars a month. To be wealthy and frugal is damn hard. Pity the rich because they will never pass trough a camel's ass. I think I got that parable wrong. ) > > > Love you, Pete, nonduality's bad boy. lol. > > WHERE'S THE OTHER BAD BOY: TOOMBARU????????????? P: Jerry kicked his ass out of here. His last message sounded a bit arrogant due to typos. He's aromatic, but never arrogant. Aromas can be harsh, many people choke on the smoke of a cigar. I invited Toomb to join us at A2Z, but he chokes on the aroma of my feet. > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 23, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > >A: Thank you for your offerings Pete... as usual, they're a little bit... > > off... ;-) > > p; Off is my favorite color, on is too harsh. > Did you know Sept. And Oct. are the hottest > months here? I'm a Virgo too, and when I lived > in Chicago, Sept was the best month of the year. > Here, today, the sunlight feels like a million > tiny flames liking my skin. The desert wind is like > dragon breath, and to step outdoors feels like being > baked like a loaf of bread. So happy belated birth day, what day was it if you'd be so kind to share? Should have guessed something in Virgo with your natural affinity to poetry/nature. Ahh. Not, to worry, you'll always be half-baked, or was that half-assed? > > > > > >A: *WHAT IS OF NOTE IS THIS: 140 MILLION PEOPLE OF BANGLADESH MADE PLEDGES. CAN WE DO LESS THAN FOLKS WHO HAVE MUCH LESS?????????? > > P: It's easy to be frugal earning two dollars a month. > To be wealthy and frugal is damn hard. Pity the rich > because they will never pass trough a camel's ass. I > think I got that parable wrong. ) I was going to address that in the post...then decided not to. It's easier to share your last piece of bread than to walk down the street and share the money jiggling in pockets/purses when most folks come upon a beggar. Too much righteousness comes into play. Well I wouldn't mind being rich, the rich ARE philanthropists, it's those middle-class folks who are stuck in the status quo, more often than not. > > > > > > Love you, Pete, nonduality's bad boy. lol. > > > > WHERE'S THE OTHER BAD BOY: TOOMBARU????????????? > > P: Jerry kicked his ass out of here. His last message > sounded a bit arrogant due to typos. He's aromatic, > but never arrogant. Aromas can be harsh, many people > choke on the smoke of a cigar. I invited Toomb to > join us at A2Z, but he chokes on the aroma of my feet. Is this true Jerry, I know that you know Toomie is anything but arrogant. There are those (yeah...that the gods hear us, and they shall be known by the righteous & unmistakable stink they leave), Jerry, I can not believe, you as a the author of ONE, should not know the difference? Say it isn't so! Let my people go!* Wait...I'm heading to the River Jordan.... I digress. Love makes the world go round, you're square if you don't get on the peace train. ~A *I heard " Let my people go! " and " Get out of your own way " many years back. Like me, eventually everyone finds out what THAT means for him/herself. > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 > > > > > > Love you, Pete, nonduality's bad boy. lol. > > > > WHERE'S THE OTHER BAD BOY: TOOMBARU????????????? > > P: Jerry kicked his ass out of here. His last message > sounded a bit arrogant due to typos. He's aromatic, > but never arrogant. Aromas can be harsh, many people > choke on the smoke of a cigar. I invited Toomb to > join us at A2Z, but he chokes on the aroma of my feet. > > > > > > > > > I can only take a few of your stories at a time. It's always been that way. When someone speaks from the center their words can create a dissonance for others that have apprehended the essential emptiness of self. In these matters.......words will always fall short of the goal. In spiritual speculations .....as they approach the edge.......they jar the senses of those peeking over. There is a reason that those who understand don't hang out together. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Love you, Pete, nonduality's bad boy. lol. > > > > > > WHERE'S THE OTHER BAD BOY: TOOMBARU????????????? > > > > P: Jerry kicked his ass out of here. His last message > > sounded a bit arrogant due to typos. He's aromatic, > > but never arrogant. Aromas can be harsh, many people > > choke on the smoke of a cigar. I invited Toomb to > > join us at A2Z, but he chokes on the aroma of my feet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can only take a few of your stories at a time. > > It's always been that way. > > When someone speaks from the center their words can create a dissonance for others that have apprehended the essential emptiness of self. > > In these matters.......words will always fall short of the goal. > > In spiritual speculations .....as they approach the edge.......they jar the senses of those peeking over. > > There is a reason that those who understand don't hang out together. > > > > > > toombaru > ....and then coming here.....to hang out together with this half baked people called.... " non-dualists " ?.....or even " enlightened non-dualists " ?...... Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 There is a reason that those who understand don't hang out together. toombaru ____________ Nisargadatta, Ranjit, Kasidheshwar, Bainath and other codisciples of Siddharameshwar and also Gurus (Guru-bhandus) meet together during some celebration in Bombay, Bhagevadi, Patrhi, Inchigiri - just to celebrate Guru purnima, Jayanthi or Punyathithi of thei Master of Master of ther Master. In India it has tradition and nothing unnatural in it. So Stefan Wollinsky invited others to celebrate Maharaj and his unique teaching. Stefan is my co-disciple, if this occassion in California would be focused on singing bhajans, listening teaching of my Guru, prostration, puja, aratis, I would also come Jai Guru Ales Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Love you, Pete, nonduality's bad boy. lol. > > > > > > WHERE'S THE OTHER BAD BOY: TOOMBARU????????????? > > > > P: Jerry kicked his ass out of here. His last message > > sounded a bit arrogant due to typos. He's aromatic, > > but never arrogant. Aromas can be harsh, many people > > choke on the smoke of a cigar. I invited Toomb to > > join us at A2Z, but he chokes on the aroma of my feet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can only take a few of your stories at a time. > > It's always been that way. > > When someone speaks from the center their words can create a dissonance for others that have apprehended the essential emptiness of self. > > In these matters.......words will always fall short of the goal. > > In spiritual speculations .....as they approach the edge.......they jar the senses of those peeking over. > > There is a reason that those who understand don't hang out together. > > > > > > toombaru >A: SAY IT ISN'T SO JERRY!!!!! There's hardly anything left of Toomie > > to be arrogant, whilst others who claim humility etc. etc. just > > throw their own special brand of arrogance all over the net, like some > > cheap perfume. Few recognize how it stinks, really. > > > > Must be immunity. Or is that impunity? > > > > > > ~A > > I made a point of making room for new voices and he said he didn't care > about doing that, so I let him go. > > Jerry P: Those who don't hang out together, will be hung separate. ) > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " cerosoul " <pedsie6 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love you, Pete, nonduality's bad boy. lol. > > > > > > > > WHERE'S THE OTHER BAD BOY: TOOMBARU????????????? > > > > > > P: Jerry kicked his ass out of here. His last message > > > sounded a bit arrogant due to typos. He's aromatic, > > > but never arrogant. Aromas can be harsh, many people > > > choke on the smoke of a cigar. I invited Toomb to > > > join us at A2Z, but he chokes on the aroma of my feet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can only take a few of your stories at a time. > > > > It's always been that way. > > > > When someone speaks from the center their words can create a dissonance for others that have apprehended the essential emptiness of self. > > > > In these matters.......words will always fall short of the goal. > > > > In spiritual speculations .....as they approach the edge.......they jar the senses of those peeking over. > > > > There is a reason that those who understand don't hang out together. > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > >A: SAY IT ISN'T SO JERRY!!!!! There's hardly anything left of Toomie > > > to be arrogant, whilst others who claim humility etc. etc. just > > > throw their own special brand of arrogance all over the net, like some > > > cheap perfume. Few recognize how it stinks, really. > > > > > > Must be immunity. Or is that impunity? > > > > > > > > > ~A > > > > I made a point of making room for new voices and he said he didn't care > > about doing that, so I let him go. > > > > Jerry > Yes. What we need is new voices. What we need is more opinions. Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their personal shadowland. They tremble at the edge of the dream. They will most likely die in their own vomit. Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest exposed. Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Yes.What we need is new voices.What we need is more opinions.Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their personal shadowland.They tremble at the edge of the dream.They will most likely die in their own vomit.Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest exposed.Let the quiet be quiet in their misery.And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm.toombaruSo now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Yes. > > What we need is new voices. > > What we need is more opinions. > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their personal shadowland. > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest exposed. > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > toombaru > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > -geo- > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. :-) But I am serious about the brave part. This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. And no longer do I find timidity attractive. I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 - toombaru Nisargadatta Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Yes. > > What we need is new voices. > > What we need is more opinions. > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > personal shadowland. > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > exposed. > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > toombaru > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > -geo- > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. :-) But I am serious about the brave part. This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. And no longer do I find timidity attractive. I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. toombaru The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From one side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave fearless helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La Mancha!!! -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090923-0, 23/09/2009 Tested on: 24/9/2009 17:40:24 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Yes. > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > > personal shadowland. > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > > exposed. > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > toombaru > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > -geo- > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > :-) > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. > > toombaru > > The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From one > side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave fearless > helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La > Mancha!!! > -geo- > > Indeed. One can be very brave in a lucid dream......knowing all the time that it is a dream. toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM > > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > > > personal shadowland. > > > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > > > exposed. > > > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > > > :-) > > > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. > > > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. > > > > toombaru > > > > The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From one > > side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave fearless > > helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La > > Mancha!!! > > -geo- > > > > > > > Indeed. > > One can be very brave in a lucid dream......knowing all the time that it is a dream. > > > > > > toombaru > Yes. Don't forget to brush your teeth, comb your hair, and hold hands while crossing the impossible dream. ;-) ~A p.s. much enjoyed the comaraderie U2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Yes. > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > > personal shadowland. > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > > exposed. > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > toombaru > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > -geo- > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > :-) > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. > > toombaru > > The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From one > side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave fearless > helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La > Mancha!!! > -geo- Aware is a great, brave personal adventure and achievement- not. It is the end of adventure, and has no holding to any story or drama. It has no " personal " component at all, although it illuminates everything that humans consider to be personal. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Aware is a great, brave personal adventure and achievement- not. Indeed. In what context does a 'great, brave personal adventure' exist in, but: " Look at me! " Even if it's imagined to be " me looking at me " . > It is the end of adventure, and has no holding to any story or > drama. It has no " personal " component at all, although it > illuminates everything that humans consider to be personal. Yip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:46 PM Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > toombaru > Nisargadatta > Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Yes. > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > > personal shadowland. > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > > exposed. > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > toombaru > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > -geo- > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > :-) > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. > > toombaru > > The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From > one > side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave > fearless > helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La > Mancha!!! > -geo- Aware is a great, brave personal adventure and achievement- not. It is the end of adventure, and has no holding to any story or drama. It has no " personal " component at all, although it illuminates everything that humans consider to be personal. - D - It is astonishingly simple. Perhaps too simple to be easily apprehended... Plain and simple is-ness. What more can one want? -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090923-0, 23/09/2009 Tested on: 24/9/2009 21:51:10 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:54 PM Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Aware is a great, brave personal adventure and achievement- not. > > It is the end of adventure, and has no holding to any story or > drama. It has no " personal " component at all, although it > illuminates everything that humans consider to be personal. > > > > - D - Indeed... it is the end of aloneness and togetherness, both. Both of which involve self, and other. One sees that self is other, and that other is self. Where are self and other? -t- Do you see the simplicity of the impossible being possible?....or something like that? Who cares about selfs and others? -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090923-0, 23/09/2009 Tested on: 24/9/2009 21:51:10 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > Do you see the simplicity of the impossible being possible?....or > something > like that? No... I see the simplicity of 'what is'. > Who cares about selfs and others? > -geo- Isn't that the basic subject matter under discussion? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 It is really so simple. The astonishing fact of existence!!! What else do we want? Any simple person, sitting in a veranda...with some tranquility can came upon this - really! Just a kind of a mind game to point to this simple but amazing fact: existence/being - contrasting with the impossible non-existence/non-being. A physical analogy (just an analogy) would be a bubble of existence in the vastness of non-existence (again, just a visual impossible analogy). Introjecting this analogy, plus a quite mind.....is it not simple and amazing? Should we call it absolute-amazement? LOL LOL -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:46 PM > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM > > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > > > personal shadowland. > > > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > > > exposed. > > > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > > > :-) > > > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. > > > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. > > > > toombaru > > > > The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From > > one > > side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave > > fearless > > helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La > > Mancha!!! > > -geo- > > Aware is a great, brave personal adventure and achievement- not. > > It is the end of adventure, and has no holding to any story or drama. It has > no " personal " component at all, although it illuminates everything that > humans consider to be personal. > > - D - > > It is astonishingly simple. Perhaps too simple to be easily apprehended... > Plain and simple is-ness. What more can one want? > -geo- > > > > > > One want? toombaru Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 - toombaru Nisargadatta Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:35 PM Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:46 PM > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM > > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > > > personal shadowland. > > > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > > > exposed. > > > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > > > :-) > > > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. > > > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. > > > > toombaru > > > > The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From > > one > > side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave > > fearless > > helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La > > Mancha!!! > > -geo- > > Aware is a great, brave personal adventure and achievement- not. > > It is the end of adventure, and has no holding to any story or drama. It > has > no " personal " component at all, although it illuminates everything that > humans consider to be personal. > > - D - > > It is astonishingly simple. Perhaps too simple to be easily apprehended... > Plain and simple is-ness. What more can one want? > -geo- > > > > > > One want? toombaru Is that not the whole problem? (if any). Yes self, no self, more not-knowing, more selflessness, more emptiness...etc... -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090923-0, 23/09/2009 Tested on: 24/9/2009 22:46:00 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:46 PM > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > toombaru > > Nisargadatta > > Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:21 PM > > Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their > > > personal shadowland. > > > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest > > > exposed. > > > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > > -geo- > > > > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > > > :-) > > > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. > > > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. > > > > toombaru > > > > The conceptual mind is programed to not see its own contradicitons. From > > one > > side it believes there is no self, and from the other he is a brave > > fearless > > helmsmen entering the emptiness...... Heeeyyyaaaaa....!!!! Toom de La > > Mancha!!! > > -geo- > > Aware is a great, brave personal adventure and achievement- not. > > It is the end of adventure, and has no holding to any story or drama. It has > no " personal " component at all, although it illuminates everything that > humans consider to be personal. > > - D - > > It is astonishingly simple. Perhaps too simple to be easily apprehended... > Plain and simple is-ness. What more can one want? > -geo- > > yes....it's simple.... even more simple than " Dan " .... Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " toombaru " <lastrain wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Yes. > > > > What we need is new voices. > > > > What we need is more opinions. > > > > Lurkers have nothing of value if they have to be coaxed out of their personal shadowland. > > > > They tremble at the edge of the dream. > > > > They will most likely die in their own vomit. > > > > Only the bravest enter this arena......and they do it with their chest exposed. > > > > Let the quiet be quiet in their misery. > > > > And let those who are fearless gravitate to the helm. > > > > toombaru > > > > So now there are fearless brave helmsmen entering the arena... > > Don't forget to brush your teeth...honey. > > -geo- > > > > > > > Well.....there really is no helm on an imaginary ship. > > :-) > > But I am serious about the brave part. > > This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid. Toomb, The self in no way is empty. Just the contrary, it it is full to the brim with itself. And therefore there is no need to be timid. And, who is looking into that 'essential emptiness of self' ? Is there a looker ? No, there is no looker. Therefore that statement 'This looking into the essential emptiness of self is not for the timid' is just total intellectual nonsense. Werner > > And no longer do I find timidity attractive. > > I don't really think that there are any lurkers " out there " anyway. toombaru > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:58 PM Re: NDS, Toomb, Anna & Pete Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > Plain and simple is-ness. What more can one want? > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One want? > > toombaru > > Is that not the whole problem? (if any). Yes self, no self, more > not-knowing, more selflessness, more emptiness...etc... > -geo- Well, 'is-ness' can't exactly be wanted, but can be pushed away... And 'not-is-ness' (e.g. something in the future) can't be pushed away, but can be wanted... -t- Not-is-ness? Wha tis that? -geo- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090923-0, 23/09/2009 Tested on: 25/9/2009 06:51:09 avast! - copyright © 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > It is astonishingly simple. Perhaps too simple to be easily apprehended... > Plain and simple is-ness. What more can one want? > -geo- Yes. It's too simple. So, one wants more, particularly one wants the feeling of being and knowing. Thus, one wants something special, that has value. Not something always already so, and never not. One wants something that can be had, that can confer status. One wants something that can be used to make others feel they lack, or to make others want what you have. One is this wanting, this attempt. Until the attempt is seen for what it is. A contradictory movement that can never be at peace, that must continually separate itself in the process of unifying itself. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > It is really so simple. The astonishing fact of existence!!! What else do we want? Any simple person, sitting in a veranda...with some tranquility can came upon this - really! Just a kind of a mind game to point to this simple but amazing fact: existence/being - contrasting with the impossible non-existence/non-being. A physical analogy (just an analogy) would be a bubble of existence in the vastness of non-existence (again, just a visual impossible analogy). Introjecting this analogy, plus a quite mind.....is it not simple and amazing? Should we call it absolute-amazement? LOL LOL > > -geo- With no reference to thought or memory, where is any mind? Prior to your conception by your mother and father, what astonishment did you feel? What sense of existence did you have? And yet: this is. - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
