Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 12:09 PM Re: Re: More on concepts - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > geo > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > the > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > entire > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > totaly > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > -geo- > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > it > > are the same. > > -geo- > > all talk is cheap. > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > lie's can only lie. > > .b b.b. > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > can wake you up - or not. > -geo- of course i sleep like any you. in dreams of and by yous and mes. there are no such things as yous nor mes. nor dreams thereof. this too is a lie. both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... don't be fooled. " you " are believing in bullshit... maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. no one knows or can ever know. that's for certain. ..b b.b. You wrote: " don't enjoy ANY freedom. when however i have been gotten out of the way.. as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. and " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. of this 'persona " .. has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- geo> some moments...moments.. == What happens is that we fall asleep. Then some shock wakes us up. The érception that i was asleep is too painfull to be acceptet as fact and we immediatly find an escuse through " I could not have been sleeping becaus...etc " .....the because is the falling asleep again. We knock ourselfs out in order not to feel the pain of having to admit I was sleeping - we knock ourselves out back to sleep. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 - roberibus111 Nisargadatta Monday, July 20, 2009 12:19 PM Re: More on concepts Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > geo > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > the > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you > > > > > > have > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > totaly > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > -geo- > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind > > > as > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being > > > of > > > it > > > are the same. > > > -geo- > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. > > Words > > can wake you up - or not. > > -geo- > > of course i sleep like any you. > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > nor dreams thereof. > > this too is a lie. > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > don't be fooled. > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > no one knows or can ever know. > > that's for certain. > > .b b.b. > > > > You wrote: > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > and > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > of this 'persona " .. > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > geo> some moments...moments.. nah.. bullshit like everything else said or done. don't be fooled. ..b b.b. You call everything said and done BS....I call it empty patterns of the absolute....so what? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > geo > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > totaly > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > it > > > > are the same. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > -geo- > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > that's for certain. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > and > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > > nah.. > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > don't be fooled. > > .b b.b. > Nah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 12:09 PM > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > Re: More on concepts > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > geo > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > the > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > entire > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > totaly > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > -geo- > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > it > > > are the same. > > > -geo- > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > can wake you up - or not. > > -geo- > > of course i sleep like any you. > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > nor dreams thereof. > > this too is a lie. > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > don't be fooled. > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > no one knows or can ever know. > > that's for certain. > > .b b.b. > > You wrote: > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > and > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > of this 'persona " .. > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > geo> some moments...moments.. > == > What happens is that we fall asleep. Then some shock wakes us up. The > érception that i was asleep is too painfull to be acceptet as fact and we > immediatly find an escuse through " I could not have been sleeping > becaus...etc " .....the because is the falling asleep again. We knock ourselfs > out in order not to feel the pain of having to admit I was sleeping - we > knock ourselves out back to sleep. > -geo- there is no " us " . both waking and sleeping are fallacies. we want to believe there is something else..something beyond.. something or anything with " meaning " . it's all to scare away the boogeyman. the ultimate and absolute bugaboo of nothingness. i prefer to just boogey woogey. fuck the nothingness just like everything else. eat..drink..be merry... even if there's nothing going on anyway. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > duveyoung > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > geo > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > it > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > > > > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > > > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > > > > > > > > maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. > > > > > > when the Bear sits on the throne. > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > That's fine Lttl Mn, I know you're trying hard. > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > well of course you can't even understand a joke. > > it's apparent you can't understand anything except begging. > > you are so fucking obsessed with me shithead it's unbelievable. > > you're in love with me. > > you read everything i post.. > > including little dots. > > what the fuck do you want me to send you for free this time? > > robert amory (assumed name) is a little wetback penis breath wannabe. > > and what you wannabe.... you'll never attain. > > you want to belong. > > never is that gonna happen asshole. > > not with me..not with charlie.. > > not with anybody living above ground. > > go back into your lonely hole asshole. > > you smell...like yourself. > > ain't nothin' worse than that. > > ROFLMAO! > Polishing your favorite mirror today? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > geo > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > totaly > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > it > > > > are the same. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > -geo- > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > that's for certain. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > and > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > > nah.. > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > don't be fooled. > > .b b.b. > Nah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > geo > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > it > > > > > are the same. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > > > that's for certain. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > > > and > > > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > > > > > nah.. > > > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nah.. you're not fooled. you be just an asshole fool. well..you're also a moocher..and an idiot..and.. well fuck there's no end to your loser positions and conditions.. ROFLMAO! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > roberibus111 > Nisargadatta > Monday, July 20, 2009 12:19 PM > Re: More on concepts > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > roberibus111 > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > geo > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > totaly > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind > > > > as > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being > > > > of > > > > it > > > > are the same. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. > > > Words > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > -geo- > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > that's for certain. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > and > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > nah.. > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > don't be fooled. > > .b b.b. > > You call everything said and done BS....I call it empty patterns of the > absolute....so what? > -geo- so be wrong i don't care. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > duveyoung > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > > > > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. > > > > > > > > when the Bear sits on the throne. > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine Lttl Mn, I know you're trying hard. > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > well of course you can't even understand a joke. > > > > it's apparent you can't understand anything except begging. > > > > you are so fucking obsessed with me shithead it's unbelievable. > > > > you're in love with me. > > > > you read everything i post.. > > > > including little dots. > > > > what the fuck do you want me to send you for free this time? > > > > robert amory (assumed name) is a little wetback penis breath wannabe. > > > > and what you wannabe.... you'll never attain. > > > > you want to belong. > > > > never is that gonna happen asshole. > > > > not with me..not with charlie.. > > > > not with anybody living above ground. > > > > go back into your lonely hole asshole. > > > > you smell...like yourself. > > > > ain't nothin' worse than that. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > Polishing your favorite mirror today? why.. are you begging for a mirror to be sent to your hovel? you wouldn't be able to afford the polish. or does welfare pay for that too? 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Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > - > > > roberibus111 > > > Nisargadatta > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > geo > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > it > > > > > are the same. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > > > that's for certain. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > > > and > > > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > > > > > nah.. > > > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nah.. hahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! that's 2 times today loser. you've learned a new word pancho. goody goody huh? LOL! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > roberibus111 > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > geo > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > it > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > > > > > that's for certain. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > > > > > > > > nah.. > > > > > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > Nah.. > > > hahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > that's 2 times today loser. > > you've learned a new word pancho. > > goody goody huh? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > Nah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > duveyoung > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > > > > > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. > > > > > > > > > > when the Bear sits on the throne. > > > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine Lttl Mn, I know you're trying hard. > > > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > well of course you can't even understand a joke. > > > > > > it's apparent you can't understand anything except begging. > > > > > > you are so fucking obsessed with me shithead it's unbelievable. > > > > > > you're in love with me. > > > > > > you read everything i post.. > > > > > > including little dots. > > > > > > what the fuck do you want me to send you for free this time? > > > > > > robert amory (assumed name) is a little wetback penis breath wannabe. > > > > > > and what you wannabe.... you'll never attain. > > > > > > you want to belong. > > > > > > never is that gonna happen asshole. > > > > > > not with me..not with charlie.. > > > > > > not with anybody living above ground. > > > > > > go back into your lonely hole asshole. > > > > > > you smell...like yourself. > > > > > > ain't nothin' worse than that. > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > Polishing your favorite mirror today? > > > why.. > > are you begging for a mirror to be sent to your hovel? > > you wouldn't be able to afford the polish. > > or does welfare pay for that too? > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > Gave up polishing years ago, now I dedicated myself with annoying the biggest b.b.b.onkey in cyberspace...Lttl Mn. 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Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > > > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > > > > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > > > > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > > > > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > > > > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > > > > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > > > > > > > that's for certain. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > > > > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > > > > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > > > > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > > > > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > > > > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > > > > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > > > > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > > > > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > > > > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > > > > > > > > > > > nah.. > > > > > > > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Nah.. > > > > > > hahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > that's 2 times today loser. > > > > you've learned a new word pancho. > > > > goody goody huh? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Nah.. say it ten times and it will be yours little pancho. LOL! ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > duveyoung > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > > > > > > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. > > > > > > > > > > > > when the Bear sits on the throne. > > > > > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine Lttl Mn, I know you're trying hard. > > > > > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well of course you can't even understand a joke. > > > > > > > > it's apparent you can't understand anything except begging. > > > > > > > > you are so fucking obsessed with me shithead it's unbelievable. > > > > > > > > you're in love with me. > > > > > > > > you read everything i post.. > > > > > > > > including little dots. > > > > > > > > what the fuck do you want me to send you for free this time? > > > > > > > > robert amory (assumed name) is a little wetback penis breath wannabe. > > > > > > > > and what you wannabe.... you'll never attain. > > > > > > > > you want to belong. > > > > > > > > never is that gonna happen asshole. > > > > > > > > not with me..not with charlie.. > > > > > > > > not with anybody living above ground. > > > > > > > > go back into your lonely hole asshole. > > > > > > > > you smell...like yourself. > > > > > > > > ain't nothin' worse than that. > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > Polishing your favorite mirror today? > > > > > > why.. > > > > are you begging for a mirror to be sent to your hovel? > > > > you wouldn't be able to afford the polish. > > > > or does welfare pay for that too? > > > > LOL! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > Gave up polishing years ago, now I dedicated myself with annoying the > > biggest b.b.b.onkey in cyberspace...Lttl Mn. > > LOL!! > > )) are you talking about your theft of CDs as a polishing? no..that was just a gracious gift for your begging. and still you always beg for more free stuff. that's the only fucking thing you're dedicated to amory. no more gifts for the needy pancho. 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Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:50 AM > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:25 AM > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all talk is cheap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it may not be ill-conceived but it all amounts to nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no way can the " No Way " be known or talked about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Being " ... as understood... is a lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lie's can only lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah....you sleep like any other. Sometimes you wake up - sometimes. Words > > > > > > > can wake you up - or not. > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > of course i sleep like any you. > > > > > > > > > > > > in dreams of and by yous and mes. > > > > > > > > > > > > there are no such things as yous nor mes. > > > > > > > > > > > > nor dreams thereof. > > > > > > > > > > > > this too is a lie. > > > > > > > > > > > > both sleeping and waking " by " lies " are " lies... > > > > > > > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > > > > > > > " you " are believing in bullshit... > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe you and me and them and those ARE the bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > no one knows or can ever know. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's for certain. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " don't enjoy ANY freedom. > > > > > > > > > > > > when however i have been gotten out of the way.. > > > > > > > > > > > > as the " subjective moment " that ever resists.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Freedom Flows without question or wonderment or presence. " -bbb- > > > > > > > > > > > > geo>.... " when however i have been gotten out of the way " - or sometimes. > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > " for some unknown reason and by some strange chemistry.. > > > > > > > > > > > > this intrinsic behavior and attitude.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of this 'persona " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > has at " moments " opened floodgates of an Awareness.. > > > > > > > > > > > > for which terms like " doubt " or " uncertainty " no longer apply. " -bbb- > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> some moments...moments.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nah.. > > > > > > > > > > bullshit like everything else said or done. > > > > > > > > > > don't be fooled. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nah.. > > > > > > > > > hahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! > > > > > > that's 2 times today loser. > > > > > > you've learned a new word pancho. > > > > > > goody goody huh? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > Nah.. > > > say it ten times and it will be yours little pancho. > > LOL! > > .b b.b. > Wah.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > duveyoung > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > > > > > > > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when the Bear sits on the throne. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine Lttl Mn, I know you're trying hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well of course you can't even understand a joke. > > > > > > > > > > it's apparent you can't understand anything except begging. > > > > > > > > > > you are so fucking obsessed with me shithead it's unbelievable. > > > > > > > > > > you're in love with me. > > > > > > > > > > you read everything i post.. > > > > > > > > > > including little dots. > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck do you want me to send you for free this time? > > > > > > > > > > robert amory (assumed name) is a little wetback penis breath wannabe. > > > > > > > > > > and what you wannabe.... you'll never attain. > > > > > > > > > > you want to belong. > > > > > > > > > > never is that gonna happen asshole. > > > > > > > > > > not with me..not with charlie.. > > > > > > > > > > not with anybody living above ground. > > > > > > > > > > go back into your lonely hole asshole. > > > > > > > > > > you smell...like yourself. > > > > > > > > > > ain't nothin' worse than that. > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Polishing your favorite mirror today? > > > > > > > > > why.. > > > > > > are you begging for a mirror to be sent to your hovel? > > > > > > you wouldn't be able to afford the polish. > > > > > > or does welfare pay for that too? > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > Gave up polishing years ago, now I dedicated myself with annoying the > > > > biggest b.b.b.onkey in cyberspace...Lttl Mn. > > > > LOL!! > > > > )) > > > are you talking about your theft of CDs as a polishing? > > no..that was just a gracious gift for your begging. > > and still you always beg for more free stuff. > > that's the only fucking thing you're dedicated to amory. > > no more gifts for the needy pancho. > > ROFLMAO! > > .b b.b. > Tell me Lttl Mn, what is that thing you always have with 'begging'? Did your mother push you little sucker away from her when you were hungry or something? Just as with that 'free stuff', you must be a regular at the Salvo's...Lttl Mn? Say, have you found your peace under the bridge yet? Be Happy Bbbrt, Be Happy... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 20, 2009 Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " mstrdmmlbrn " <mstrdmmlbrn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " duveyoung " <edg@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > duveyoung > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > geo > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:55 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:49 AM > > > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > > > > > roberibus111 > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 10:21 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: More on concepts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " douglasmitch1963 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <douglasmitch1963@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta said, " You must become concept free. Put the ax to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concepts, including the concept 'I Am'. Whatever concepts you have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > collected in this world are totally useless. Understand that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manifestation is the child of a barren woman. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so are the notions of " big egos " ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't " you " think? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who's the " you " that: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.... " collects " the concepts.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2..... " puts " the ax to " anything " .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.....believes this bullshit? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If there is complete freedom from concepts there is the seeing of a > > > > > > > > > > > > totaly > > > > > > > > > > > > " new " world - without the observer > > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's as good a speculation as any surmisal can be. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why do you question seeing w/o observer? > > > > > > > > > > > If consciousness is absolutely still, no concepts running in the mind as > > > > > > > > > > > noise, this luminous apearance IS by itself. The seeing and the being of > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > are the same. > > > > > > > > > > > -geo- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: Geo, are you saying that the Absolute isn't a witness? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geo> The world, consciousness, is not " other " to the absolute. How could > > > > > > > > > > anything be other to it? It is being it. The seeing is the being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edg: I'm not getting ya. Is there a ghost in the machine? Is there an image in a mirror? Does the Pope shit in the woods? Do we all agree that awareness is a seer-seeing-seen processing? Is awareness the " seer " or is awareness " the Absolute? " Or whaaaa? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maybe the Pope shits in the woods.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when the Bear sits on the throne. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's fine Lttl Mn, I know you're trying hard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well of course you can't even understand a joke. > > > > > > > > > > > > it's apparent you can't understand anything except begging. > > > > > > > > > > > > you are so fucking obsessed with me shithead it's unbelievable. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're in love with me. > > > > > > > > > > > > you read everything i post.. > > > > > > > > > > > > including little dots. > > > > > > > > > > > > what the fuck do you want me to send you for free this time? > > > > > > > > > > > > robert amory (assumed name) is a little wetback penis breath wannabe. > > > > > > > > > > > > and what you wannabe.... you'll never attain. > > > > > > > > > > > > you want to belong. > > > > > > > > > > > > never is that gonna happen asshole. > > > > > > > > > > > > not with me..not with charlie.. > > > > > > > > > > > > not with anybody living above ground. > > > > > > > > > > > > go back into your lonely hole asshole. > > > > > > > > > > > > you smell...like yourself. > > > > > > > > > > > > ain't nothin' worse than that. > > > > > > > > > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Polishing your favorite mirror today? > > > > > > > > > > > > why.. > > > > > > > > are you begging for a mirror to be sent to your hovel? > > > > > > > > you wouldn't be able to afford the polish. > > > > > > > > or does welfare pay for that too? > > > > > > > > LOL! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > Gave up polishing years ago, now I dedicated myself with annoying the > > > > > > biggest b.b.b.onkey in cyberspace...Lttl Mn. > > > > > > LOL!! > > > > > > )) > > > > > > are you talking about your theft of CDs as a polishing? > > > > no..that was just a gracious gift for your begging. > > > > and still you always beg for more free stuff. > > > > that's the only fucking thing you're dedicated to amory. > > > > no more gifts for the needy pancho. > > > > ROFLMAO! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > Tell me Lttl Mn, what is that thing you always have with 'begging'? > > Did your mother push you little sucker away from her when you were > > hungry or something? > > Just as with that 'free stuff', you must be a regular at the > > Salvo's...Lttl Mn? > > Say, have you found your peace under the bridge yet? > > Be Happy Bbbrt, Be Happy... ROFLMAO! the thing i have with begging is watching you. what's " salvo's " ? your mission eatery? i knew it! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
