Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 - toombaru2006 Nisargadatta Monday, June 08, 2009 8:57 PM Re: Where is the world? Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > - > > Tim G. > > Nisargadatta > > Monday, June 08, 2009 7:19 PM > > Re: Where is the world? > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your > > > memory, > > > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > > > > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the > > > human > > > world is not. > > > > There's only one death, and it isn't death of the body. Physical death > > only > > symbolizes the loss of identification. Death is death of the 'me', > > whether > > it's identified with one's own body, or somebody else's (or anything > > else, > > for that matter). > > -tim- > > > > I see it different. The ending of the ME is the ending of identification > > with this body. Ending of the body is the ending of the human world. > > How can ME by identified with another body? > You otta see my neighbor's wife. :-0 toombafru OK I am the first one...dont tell anybody elese... -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > -geo- You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH? Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Monday, June 08, 2009 8:17 PM Re: Where is the world? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 08, 2009 7:19 PM > Re: Where is the world? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your > > memory, > > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the > > human > > world is not. > > There's only one death, and it isn't death of the body. Physical death > only > symbolizes the loss of identification. Death is death of the 'me', whether > it's identified with one's own body, or somebody else's (or anything else, > for that matter). > -tim- > > I see it different. The ending of the ME is the ending of identification > with this body. Ending of the body is the ending of the human world. > How can ME by identified with another body? " I love you " . geo> I see what you mean. I would call that the " periphery " of the me-nome game. Not only I love you but I need a new car, more respect from others...etc... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 09, 2009 5:47 AM Re: Where is the world? Nisargadatta , " Werner Woehr " <wwoehr wrote: > > And we are trained to use the body as the reference to the noun 'I'. What's interesting (from here) is that when talking on the computer, the body is (rarely or never) used as a reference -- as we don't see the body of the 'other', nor our own body when chatting on list. So, these words really don't relate to anything, and we see examples of 'projection' happening all the time. The " I " and the " you " get reversed and obfuscated in the attempt to figure out which of us is " I " and which is " you " . -tim- People doesnt know that the reference is the body!! One believes that there is an inner entity - independent of the body. Only we, clever smartasses, know about that one. If you ask any person if he is an entity...guess what will he answer. So he will defend it, fight for it, even die for the sake of the honor of that entity. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:08 AM Re: Where is the world? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > -geo- You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH? Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. -tim- Yes...when my mind stops I feel a dizzy...as if lost...so I just must go on with it...So I am thanking werner for the oportunity. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:08 AM > Re: Where is the world? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > > -geo- > > You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH? > Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. > -tim- > > Yes...when my mind stops I feel a dizzy...as if lost...so I just must go on > with it...So I am thanking werner for the oportunity. > -geo- Honesty is awesome :-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 - Tim G. Nisargadatta Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:31 AM Re: Where is the world? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:08 AM > Re: Where is the world? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > > -geo- > > You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH? > Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. > -tim- > > Yes...when my mind stops I feel a dizzy...as if lost...so I just must go > on > with it...So I am thanking werner for the oportunity. > -geo- Honesty is awesome :-). -tim- Honesty towards whom? How could I ever lie? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 > >> > Lots of material to think about....thanks.> > -geo->> You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH?> Keeps the illusion of the thinker around.> -tim->> Yes...when my mind stops I feel a dizzy...as if lost...so I just must go > on> with it...So I am thanking werner for the oportunity.> -geo-Honesty is awesome :-).-tim-Honesty towards whom? How could I ever lie? Xept pretend that I am liying...but a lie being a lie is truth.-geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > > > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > > > -geo- > > > > You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH? > > Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. > > -tim- > > > > Yes...when my mind stops I feel a dizzy...as if lost...so I just must go > > on > > with it...So I am thanking werner for the oportunity. > > -geo- > > Honesty is awesome :-). > -tim- > > Honesty towards whom? How could I ever lie? > Xept pretend that I am liying...but a lie being a lie is truth. > -geo- I just said " honesty is awesome " ... not that anyone is being honest. But the truth is often hidden by deception. When honest looking is happening, nothing stops the truth from rushing in ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 > > > > > > > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > > > -geo- > > > > You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, > > eH? > > Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. > > -tim- > > > > Yes...when my mind stops I feel a dizzy...as if lost...so I just must go > > on > > with it...So I am thanking werner for the oportunity. > > -geo- > > Honesty is awesome :-). > -tim- > > Honesty towards whom? How could I ever lie? > Xept pretend that I am liying...but a lie being a lie is truth. > -geo- I just said " honesty is awesome " ... not that anyone is being honest. But the truth is often hidden by deception. When honest looking is happening, nothing stops the truth from rushing in ;-). -tim- When the movement of consciusness is seen in its clear limited field, as deception, and pride, and fear.... truth is. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > geo > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 08, 2009 5:47 PM > Re: Re: Where is the world? > > > > The world is not. > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this insistence. > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > world - > > or is it a rats world? > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your world? > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. Loosing memory and > becoming cooco, is a paterning in the human cooco's world. Now... if a > martian lost his memory then it is a patterning in a martian cooco's world. > You dont have to add concepts of what is or what is not a world to a world. > The world is this as it is. > > This human world may pattern into a centered-mode or a centerless-mode. But both way are patterns of the human world. keep pouring coffee (thought) into a full cup, and coffee spills out everywhere the cup is useless if the cup is empty, it can be used Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > Tim G. > Nisargadatta > Monday, June 08, 2009 6:17 PM > Re: Where is the world? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > The world is not. > > > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this > > > insistence. > > > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > > world - > > > or is it a rats world? > > > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your world? > > > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your memory, > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the human > world is not. you are guessing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > > -geo- > > You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH? Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. just like this list keeps the illusion around of entities talking to each other gaining something from " someone else " ... or " someone else " doesn't get what I'm telling them or " someone gets what I'm saying " or " here's my response to what you just said " .. .. .. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Lots of material to think about....thanks. > > > > -geo- > > > > > > You lookin' for material to think about? ;-). Thinking about is great, eH? > > > Keeps the illusion of the thinker around. > > > -tim- > > > > > > Yes...when my mind stops I feel a dizzy...as if lost...so I just must go > > > on > > > with it...So I am thanking werner for the oportunity. > > > -geo- > > > > Honesty is awesome :-). > > -tim- > > > > Honesty towards whom? How could I ever lie? > > Xept pretend that I am liying...but a lie being a lie is truth. > > -geo- > > I just said " honesty is awesome " ... not that anyone is being honest. But the truth is often hidden by deception. When honest looking is happening, nothing stops the truth from rushing in ;-). when dishonesty isn't happening truth is and no need to give it a label Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > > just like this list keeps the illusion around of entities talking to > each other Strictly speaking, the list isn't doing anything ;-). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > when dishonesty isn't happening > > truth is > > and no need to give it a label Including " it " . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 9, 2009 > > > The world is not. > > > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this > > > insistence. > > > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > > world - > > > or is it a rats world? > > > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your > > world? > > > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your memory, > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the human > world is not. you are guessing -d- OK, dan...now you can go back and be a bit more elaborative in your answers. These zen messages are too vague. Guessing what? That there is no humna world for the dead? OK...make it the " dead human world " then. Is that better? -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > > > just like this list keeps the illusion around of entities talking to > each other > > Strictly speaking, the list isn't doing anything ;-). Not really. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " Tim G. " <fewtch wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033@> wrote: > > > > when dishonesty isn't happening > > > > truth is > > > > and no need to give it a label > > Including " it " . And if a label appears, there is nothing preventing the appearance. - d - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > The world is not. > > > > > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this > > > > insistence. > > > > > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > > > world - > > > > or is it a rats world? > > > > > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > > > > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your > > > world? > > > > > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. > > > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your memory, > > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the human > > world is not. > > you are guessing > -d- > > OK, dan...now you can go back and be a bit more elaborative in your answers. > These zen messages are too vague. > Guessing what? That there is no humna world for the dead? OK...make it the > " dead human world " then. Is that better? > -geo- how can you get ahead of this moment to another moment when there is supposedly going to be no body? that is thought speculating, extrapolating, projecting time - guessing. what is, involves no guesswork or projection of thought there is no " other " involved there is no " other moment " involved there is no future to project, involved except " in " thought's imagined reality and one can't be " in " thought's reality that is why it's imaginary, imaged no one lives " in " it - or outside it, either having no inside or outside, there is no next moment for who you are having a body or not having a body isn't an issue (except for thought's imaginary ownership of embodiment) the experiential sensing of bodily feelings isn't an issue it isn't denied or accepted, affirmed or rejected sensing doesn't create a reality nor deny reality there is no issue of being the body or being something else - D - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dan330033 " <dan330033 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > The world is not. > > > > > > > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > > > > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this > > > > > insistence. > > > > > > > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > > > > world - > > > > > or is it a rats world? > > > > > > > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > > > > > > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your > > > > world? > > > > > > > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. > > > > > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your memory, > > > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > > > > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the human > > > world is not. > > > > you are guessing > > -d- > > > > OK, dan...now you can go back and be a bit more elaborative in your answers. > > These zen messages are too vague. > > Guessing what? That there is no humna world for the dead? OK...make it the > > " dead human world " then. Is that better? > > -geo- > > how can you get ahead of this moment to another moment when there is supposedly going to be no body? this information is given on a need to know basis. it's given as it happens. it hasn't even begun to happen for you. have patience. > that is thought speculating, extrapolating, projecting time - guessing. it is merely your thought that that is what's what. it is a projection. seek from where such faulty projections come from. you are just speculating and extrapolatingfrom that speculation.. that what you say is so. you are of course simply guessing. > what is, involves no guesswork or projection of thought stop guessing then. > > there is no " other " involved then why are you responding to a perceived other? > > there is no " other moment " involved there is no " this moment " involved. there is no involvement whatsoever.. if it is truly not two. One does not " become involved " with anything... not even a relative " involvement " with " time " . what a stupid notion. > > there is no future to project, involved > > except " in " thought's imagined reality > > and one can't be " in " thought's reality this is not you " in " imagination. you are imagination. your notion of " one " in the above.. cannot " be " ... not in thought nor imagination nor in holy bullshit sanctity. > > that is why it's imaginary, imaged that doesn't say a goddamn thing. you love to trying to bullshit. > > no one lives " in " it - or outside it, either where do you live? > > having no inside or outside, there is no next moment for who you are > > having a body or not having a body isn't an issue (except for thought's imaginary ownership of embodiment) > > the experiential sensing of bodily feelings isn't an issue > > it isn't denied or accepted, affirmed or rejected > > sensing doesn't create a reality nor deny reality > > there is no issue of being the body or being something else > > - D - and the rest of the above crapola is totally spun. crackheads spin out like that all the time. not that i'm suggesting or guessing anything. besides.. i'm not here and you're not there.. i am not he and you are not he and we are not he and he's not he. and we are not all together. and what is altogether all together.. doesn't give a shit. so it doesn't matter. so therefore and henceforth and so on: proceed with your bullshit. it's permissible no matter how inaccurate. it's actually amusing and enjoyable that way. smiles and understanding.. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 - dan330033 Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:00 AM Re: Where is the world? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > The world is not. > > > > > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this > > > > insistence. > > > > > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > > > world - > > > > or is it a rats world? > > > > > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > > > > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your > > > world? > > > > > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. > > > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your > > memory, > > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the > > human > > world is not. > > you are guessing > -d- > > OK, dan...now you can go back and be a bit more elaborative in your > answers. > These zen messages are too vague. > Guessing what? That there is no humna world for the dead? OK...make it the > " dead human world " then. Is that better? > -geo- how can you get ahead of this moment to another moment when there is supposedly going to be no body? that is thought speculating, extrapolating, projecting time - guessing. geo> I said nothing about the possible nature of some " dead human world " . Could be f..g anything. What guessing? what is, involves no guesswork or projection of thought geo> How will you respond to tims question about loosing all memory forever?? there is no " other " involved there is no " other moment " involved there is no future to project, involved except " in " thought's imagined reality and one can't be " in " thought's reality that is why it's imaginary, imaged no one lives " in " it - or outside it, either having no inside or outside, there is no next moment for who you are having a body or not having a body isn't an issue (except for thought's imaginary ownership of embodiment) the experiential sensing of bodily feelings isn't an issue it isn't denied or accepted, affirmed or rejected sensing doesn't create a reality nor deny reality there is no issue of being the body or being something else - D - Sure..death is nothing at all. Go have some sleep.. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 .....having a body or not having a body isn't an issue (except for thought's imaginary ownership of embodiment) the experiential sensing of bodily feelings isn't an issue it isn't denied or accepted, affirmed or rejected sensing doesn't create a reality nor deny reality there is no issue of being the body or being something else - D - Body/mind/consciousness is what is being lived. Without that there is no....(name it if you want). Sensing is part of what makes the world/consciousness. To you it is not an issue. I dont know what an issue might mean in your mind. If the world consciousness is not an issue...nothing is issue...what is an issue? Consciousness is what allows qualities, pluralities, (and lists)...I have no idea about the nature of other worlds - but there are, and its not a matter of faith or belief. The one plays patternings. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 - geo Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:25 AM Re: Re: Where is the world? - dan330033 Nisargadatta Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:00 AM Re: Where is the world? Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > > > The world is not. > > > > > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this > > > > insistence. > > > > > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > > > world - > > > > or is it a rats world? > > > > > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > > > > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your > > > world? > > > > > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. > > > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your > > memory, > > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the > > human > > world is not. > > you are guessing > -d- > > OK, dan...now you can go back and be a bit more elaborative in your > answers. > These zen messages are too vague. > Guessing what? That there is no humna world for the dead? OK...make it the > " dead human world " then. Is that better? > -geo- how can you get ahead of this moment to another moment when there is supposedly going to be no body? that is thought speculating, extrapolating, projecting time - guessing. geo> I said nothing about the possible nature of some " dead human world " . Could be f..g anything. What guessing? what is, involves no guesswork or projection of thought geo> How will you respond to tims question about loosing all memory forever?? there is no " other " involved there is no " other moment " involved there is no future to project, involved except " in " thought's imagined reality and one can't be " in " thought's reality that is why it's imaginary, imaged no one lives " in " it - or outside it, either having no inside or outside, there is no next moment for who you are having a body or not having a body isn't an issue (except for thought's imaginary ownership of embodiment) the experiential sensing of bodily feelings isn't an issue it isn't denied or accepted, affirmed or rejected sensing doesn't create a reality nor deny reality there is no issue of being the body or being something else - D - Sure..death is nothing at all. Go have some sleep..then wake up.. ....and death may be nothing at all. -geo- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 10, 2009 Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor wrote: > > > - > dan330033 > Nisargadatta > Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:00 AM > Re: Where is the world? > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " geo " <inandor@> wrote: > > > > > > > The world is not. > > > > > > > > > > " is " implies continuity, existence, which is an illusion of memory. > > > > > > > > > > The world does not exist. It insists ;-). Have a look at this > > > > > insistence. > > > > > > > > > > geo> The insistence, memory, illusions are all patterns in the human > > > > > world - > > > > > or is it a rats world? > > > > > > > > It's an imaginary world, based on memory. > > > > > > > > Suppose you lost all your memory, right now, forever. Where is your > > > > world? > > > > > > > > geo> Imagination is a patterning in the human world. > > > > > > " The " human world is part of your world. Suppose you lost all your > > > memory, > > > right now, forever. Where is " the " human world? What does " the " mean? > > > > > > geo> It is the same as asking what death is. When the body dies the > > > human > > > world is not. > > > > you are guessing > > -d- > > > > OK, dan...now you can go back and be a bit more elaborative in your > > answers. > > These zen messages are too vague. > > Guessing what? That there is no humna world for the dead? OK...make it the > > " dead human world " then. Is that better? > > -geo- > > how can you get ahead of this moment to another moment when there is > supposedly going to be no body? > > that is thought speculating, extrapolating, projecting time - guessing. > > geo> I said nothing about the possible nature of some " dead human world " . > Could be f..g anything. What guessing? > > what is, involves no guesswork or projection of thought > > geo> How will you respond to tims question about loosing all memory > forever?? > > there is no " other " involved > > there is no " other moment " involved > > there is no future to project, involved > > except " in " thought's imagined reality > > and one can't be " in " thought's reality > > that is why it's imaginary, imaged > > no one lives " in " it - or outside it, either > > having no inside or outside, there is no next moment for who you are > > having a body or not having a body isn't an issue (except for thought's > imaginary ownership of embodiment) > > the experiential sensing of bodily feelings isn't an issue > > it isn't denied or accepted, affirmed or rejected > > sensing doesn't create a reality nor deny reality > > there is no issue of being the body or being something else > > - D - > > Sure..death is nothing at all. > Go have some sleep.. > -geo- death is now Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
