Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + 1 > = > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > formula " God's > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and the > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > inquire > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > scientists, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the > math > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be > the > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > other > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / leaving > all > > > up to > > > > > an > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then imaginary > God > > > also > > > > > must > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " trap.... > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of anybody > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > as i told you.... > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > Marc you're telling me! i'm the one and only. and i ain't no trip. that's a trap. ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + 1 = > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this formula " God's > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and the > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > inquire > > > > into > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > scientists, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the math > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be > > the > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > > other > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To infer the existence of a higher or mystical intelligence > > > > extant > > > > > > in > > > > > > > the universe merely because something does not lend itself > > to > > > > human > > > > > > > mentation only refers to the limitation of human thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attempt to attribute that which it is incapable of > > > > understanding > > > > > > > to the 'God dun it " kind of thinking says more about human > > > > thought > > > > > > > than is does about the existence of a big guy in the sky. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after many centuries of religious wars......still in 21th > > > > > > century.....this your mentionned " human " meet in > > > > > > churches/temples....in order to loose their mind......get > > nicely > > > > > > brainwashed....and feeling happy for some little durations of > > > > time.... > > > > > > getting some tears here & there....and exchange/share the great > > > > > > attitude.....to have No idea about who & what they are..... > > > > > > > > > > > > and ever have been > > > > > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you guys are both too religious. > > > > > > > > > > your religion is called " me " , " my shadow " , " my beliefs " . > > > > > > > > > > drop all that. > > > > > > > > > > become the equation. > > > > > > > > > > there is no choice in any event. > > > > > > > > > > it should be clear as day.. > > > > > > > > > > if you understand the mathematical statement. > > > > > > > > > > you both have gone off on some far out tangent.. > > > > > > > > > > dealing with childish notions and attempts to make concrete.. > > > > > > > > > > that which the sides of the equation.. in an harmonic > > resonance.. > > > > > > > > > > CANNOT be made objective, concrete or be denied. > > > > > > > > > > only fools fall in where even angels fear to tread. > > > > > > > > > > the best minds of the planet past and present have studied this > > > > math. > > > > > > > > > > and have done so with the greatest of awe and respect. > > > > > > > > > > not one of them have claimed to " understand " that formula in > > toto. > > > > > > > > > > yet here you two scientifically illeterati have decided.. > > > > > > > > > > that you somehow DO get it. > > > > > > > > > > ridiculous. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then now....life is of a " mathematical statement " ....?... > > > > > > > > are you serious?.... > > > > > > > > i mean, seriously joking?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > i dunno. > > > > > > do the math and see. > > > > > > what is life? > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > life is a joke > > > > some give a meaning to the joke > > > > some don't > > > > lol > > > > Marc > > > that figures. > > now let's see.. > > if we assume a = life..and b = joke: > > therefore.. > > a = b. > > hey! > > that's a cancellation process too. > > wherby.. > > a = b = 0 (meaning). > > not hard at all. > > but i don't see the point. > > of course.. > > .b b.b. is an invariant that is not part of the equation. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > bbb = life = 0 (meaning) = joke =* marc = life = 0 (meaning) = joke * two different jokes.....but with same meaning lol Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + 1 = 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this formula " God's > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and the > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to inquire > > into > > > > its > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > scientists, > > > > the > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the math tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be the > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than other > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / leaving all up > > to > > > > an > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then imaginary God > > also > > > > must > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: the love of this your imaginary " God " is the love of All.... > > > > > > > > the love of All is this your imaginary " God " > > > > > > > > wake up bbb > > > > > > > > Here we Are... > > > > > > > > " bbb " , " Marc " , " toombaru " ....and even " Werner " .... (lol)....are of > > One > > > > being......One heart.....One Self....One Soul > > > > > > > > enjoy It... > > > > > > > > or don't...enjoy It > > > > > > > > up to imaginary " bbb " > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. isn't up to anything. > > > > > > .b b.b. IS up..and down..and over..and around. > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > no need to imagine... > > > > i see this " bbb " moving around in his imaginary box.... > > > > sometimes up, then down, then around... > > > > ....etc > > > > give up " bbb " > > > > you aren't! > > > > and never have been! > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > > who just said that? > > i'm not here to be spoken to. > > .b b.b. > good....me neither Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + 1 > > = > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > formula " God's > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and the > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > inquire > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > scientists, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the > > math > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be > > the > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > > other > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / leaving > > all > > > > up to > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then imaginary > > God > > > > also > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of anybody > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > Marc > > > you're telling me! > > i'm the one and only. > > and i ain't no trip. > > that's a trap. > > .b b.b. > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + > 1 = > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > formula " God's > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and > the > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > > inquire > > > > > into > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the > math > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must > be > > > the > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > > > other > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To infer the existence of a higher or mystical > intelligence > > > > > extant > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the universe merely because something does not lend > itself > > > to > > > > > human > > > > > > > > mentation only refers to the limitation of human > thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attempt to attribute that which it is incapable of > > > > > understanding > > > > > > > > to the 'God dun it " kind of thinking says more about > human > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > than is does about the existence of a big guy in the > sky. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after many centuries of religious wars......still in 21th > > > > > > > century.....this your mentionned " human " meet in > > > > > > > churches/temples....in order to loose their mind......get > > > nicely > > > > > > > brainwashed....and feeling happy for some little > durations of > > > > > time.... > > > > > > > getting some tears here & there....and exchange/share the > great > > > > > > > attitude.....to have No idea about who & what they are..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and ever have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you guys are both too religious. > > > > > > > > > > > > your religion is called " me " , " my shadow " , " my beliefs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > drop all that. > > > > > > > > > > > > become the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no choice in any event. > > > > > > > > > > > > it should be clear as day.. > > > > > > > > > > > > if you understand the mathematical statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > you both have gone off on some far out tangent.. > > > > > > > > > > > > dealing with childish notions and attempts to make > concrete.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that which the sides of the equation.. in an harmonic > > > resonance.. > > > > > > > > > > > > CANNOT be made objective, concrete or be denied. > > > > > > > > > > > > only fools fall in where even angels fear to tread. > > > > > > > > > > > > the best minds of the planet past and present have studied > this > > > > > math. > > > > > > > > > > > > and have done so with the greatest of awe and respect. > > > > > > > > > > > > not one of them have claimed to " understand " that formula > in > > > toto. > > > > > > > > > > > > yet here you two scientifically illeterati have decided.. > > > > > > > > > > > > that you somehow DO get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > ridiculous. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then now....life is of a " mathematical statement " ....?... > > > > > > > > > > are you serious?.... > > > > > > > > > > i mean, seriously joking?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno. > > > > > > > > do the math and see. > > > > > > > > what is life? > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > life is a joke > > > > > > some give a meaning to the joke > > > > > > some don't > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > that figures. > > > > now let's see.. > > > > if we assume a = life..and b = joke: > > > > therefore.. > > > > a = b. > > > > hey! > > > > that's a cancellation process too. > > > > wherby.. > > > > a = b = 0 (meaning). > > > > not hard at all. > > > > but i don't see the point. > > > > of course.. > > > > .b b.b. is an invariant that is not part of the equation. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > bbb = life = 0 (meaning) = joke > > =* > > marc = life = 0 (meaning) = joke > > > > * two different jokes.....but with same meaning > > > lol > > > Marc what does it mean though? :-) ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + 1 = > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this formula " God's > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and the > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > inquire > > > into > > > > > its > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > scientists, > > > > > the > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the math > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be > the > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > other > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / leaving all > up > > > to > > > > > an > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then imaginary God > > > also > > > > > must > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: the love of this your imaginary " God " is the love of > All.... > > > > > > > > > > the love of All is this your imaginary " God " > > > > > > > > > > wake up bbb > > > > > > > > > > Here we Are... > > > > > > > > > > " bbb " , " Marc " , " toombaru " ....and even " Werner " .... > (lol)....are of > > > One > > > > > being......One heart.....One Self....One Soul > > > > > > > > > > enjoy It... > > > > > > > > > > or don't...enjoy It > > > > > > > > > > up to imaginary " bbb " > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. isn't up to anything. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. IS up..and down..and over..and around. > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to imagine... > > > > > > i see this " bbb " moving around in his imaginary box.... > > > > > > sometimes up, then down, then around... > > > > > > ....etc > > > > > > give up " bbb " > > > > > > you aren't! > > > > > > and never have been! > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > who just said that? > > > > i'm not here to be spoken to. > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > good....me neither > > > > Marc i wasn't speaking to you. :-) ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " toombaru2006 " > > > > <lastrain@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + > > 1 = > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > formula " God's > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and > > the > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > > > inquire > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the > > math > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must > > be > > > > the > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > > > > other > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To infer the existence of a higher or mystical > > intelligence > > > > > > extant > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the universe merely because something does not lend > > itself > > > > to > > > > > > human > > > > > > > > > mentation only refers to the limitation of human > > thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The attempt to attribute that which it is incapable of > > > > > > understanding > > > > > > > > > to the 'God dun it " kind of thinking says more about > > human > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > > > than is does about the existence of a big guy in the > > sky. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > toombaru > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > after many centuries of religious wars......still in 21th > > > > > > > > century.....this your mentionned " human " meet in > > > > > > > > churches/temples....in order to loose their mind......get > > > > nicely > > > > > > > > brainwashed....and feeling happy for some little > > durations of > > > > > > time.... > > > > > > > > getting some tears here & there....and exchange/share the > > great > > > > > > > > attitude.....to have No idea about who & what they are..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and ever have been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you guys are both too religious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > your religion is called " me " , " my shadow " , " my beliefs " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > drop all that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > become the equation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is no choice in any event. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it should be clear as day.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you understand the mathematical statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you both have gone off on some far out tangent.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dealing with childish notions and attempts to make > > concrete.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that which the sides of the equation.. in an harmonic > > > > resonance.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CANNOT be made objective, concrete or be denied. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > only fools fall in where even angels fear to tread. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best minds of the planet past and present have studied > > this > > > > > > math. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and have done so with the greatest of awe and respect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not one of them have claimed to " understand " that formula > > in > > > > toto. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yet here you two scientifically illeterati have decided.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that you somehow DO get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ridiculous. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and then now....life is of a " mathematical statement " ....?... > > > > > > > > > > > > are you serious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > i mean, seriously joking?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i dunno. > > > > > > > > > > do the math and see. > > > > > > > > > > what is life? > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > life is a joke > > > > > > > > some give a meaning to the joke > > > > > > > > some don't > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > that figures. > > > > > > now let's see.. > > > > > > if we assume a = life..and b = joke: > > > > > > therefore.. > > > > > > a = b. > > > > > > hey! > > > > > > that's a cancellation process too. > > > > > > wherby.. > > > > > > a = b = 0 (meaning). > > > > > > not hard at all. > > > > > > but i don't see the point. > > > > > > of course.. > > > > > > .b b.b. is an invariant that is not part of the equation. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > bbb = life = 0 (meaning) = joke > > > > =* > > > > marc = life = 0 (meaning) = joke > > > > > > > > * two different jokes.....but with same meaning > > > > > > lol > > > > > > Marc > > > what does it mean though? > > :-) > > .b b.b. > bbb has now the very rare opportunity to have a free choice (like always before) about the meaning he will give to It.....isn't it sooo fabulous spiritual, enlightened and Loving?? lol Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + 1 = > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this formula " God's > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and the > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > inquire > > > > into > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > scientists, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the math > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must be > > the > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > > other > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / leaving all > > up > > > > to > > > > > > an > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then imaginary God > > > > also > > > > > > must > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: the love of this your imaginary " God " is the love of > > All.... > > > > > > > > > > > > the love of All is this your imaginary " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we Are... > > > > > > > > > > > > " bbb " , " Marc " , " toombaru " ....and even " Werner " .... > > (lol)....are of > > > > One > > > > > > being......One heart.....One Self....One Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > enjoy It... > > > > > > > > > > > > or don't...enjoy It > > > > > > > > > > > > up to imaginary " bbb " > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. isn't up to anything. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. IS up..and down..and over..and around. > > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to imagine... > > > > > > > > i see this " bbb " moving around in his imaginary box.... > > > > > > > > sometimes up, then down, then around... > > > > > > > > ....etc > > > > > > > > give up " bbb " > > > > > > > > you aren't! > > > > > > > > and never have been! > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > who just said that? > > > > > > i'm not here to be spoken to. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > good....me neither > > > > > > > > Marc > > > i wasn't speaking to you. > > :-) > > .b b.b. > i knew Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + > 1 = > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > formula " God's > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and > the > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > > inquire > > > > > into > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the > math > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must > be > > > the > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > > > other > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / leaving > all > > > up > > > > > to > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then imaginary > God > > > > > also > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: the love of this your imaginary " God " is the love of > > > All.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the love of All is this your imaginary " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we Are... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " bbb " , " Marc " , " toombaru " ....and even " Werner " .... > > > (lol)....are of > > > > > One > > > > > > > being......One heart.....One Self....One Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enjoy It... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or don't...enjoy It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up to imaginary " bbb " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. isn't up to anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. IS up..and down..and over..and around. > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to imagine... > > > > > > > > > > i see this " bbb " moving around in his imaginary box.... > > > > > > > > > > sometimes up, then down, then around... > > > > > > > > > > ....etc > > > > > > > > > > give up " bbb " > > > > > > > > > > you aren't! > > > > > > > > > > and never have been! > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > who just said that? > > > > > > > > i'm not here to be spoken to. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > good....me neither > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > i wasn't speaking to you. > > > > :-) > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > i knew > > Marc what's to know? ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi > > + 1 > > > > = > > > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > > > formula " God's > > > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and > > the > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > > > inquire > > > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the > > > > math > > > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about > > the > > > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it > > > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it > > must be > > > > the > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " > > than > > > > other > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of > > > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / > > leaving > > > > all > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then > > imaginary > > > > God > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of anybody > > > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > you're telling me! > > > > > > i'm the one and only. > > > > > > and i ain't no trip. > > > > > > that's a trap. > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb > > > > > > Marc > > > imagine that! > > .b b.b. > yes, do it! no choice about that! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence of > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: ei*pi + > > 1 = > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > formula " God's > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics and > > the > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not stop to > > > > inquire > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, the > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of the > > math > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said about the > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what it > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it must > > be > > > > the > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in fewer " words " than > > > > other > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world of > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / leaving > > all > > > > up > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then imaginary > > God > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ps: the love of this your imaginary " God " is the love of > > > > All.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the love of All is this your imaginary " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wake up bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here we Are... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " bbb " , " Marc " , " toombaru " ....and even " Werner " .... > > > > (lol)....are of > > > > > > One > > > > > > > > being......One heart.....One Self....One Soul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enjoy It... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or don't...enjoy It > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > up to imaginary " bbb " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. isn't up to anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. IS up..and down..and over..and around. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no need to imagine... > > > > > > > > > > > > i see this " bbb " moving around in his imaginary box.... > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes up, then down, then around... > > > > > > > > > > > > ....etc > > > > > > > > > > > > give up " bbb " > > > > > > > > > > > > you aren't! > > > > > > > > > > > > and never have been! > > > > > > > > > > > > lol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > who just said that? > > > > > > > > > > i'm not here to be spoken to. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good....me neither > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > i wasn't speaking to you. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > i knew > > > > Marc > > > what's to know? > > .b b.b. > just like bbb is knowing how to prepare breakfast... bbb also know that he isn't speaking to anybody same for marc Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence > of > > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: > ei*pi > > > + 1 > > > > > = > > > > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > > > > formula " God's > > > > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics > and > > > the > > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not > stop to > > > > > inquire > > > > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, > the > > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) > unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus > one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of > the > > > > > math > > > > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said > about > > > the > > > > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely > paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what > it > > > > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it > > > must be > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in > fewer " words " > > > than > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world > of > > > > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious > spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / > > > leaving > > > > > all > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then > > > imaginary > > > > > God > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of anybody > > > > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > > > > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > you're telling me! > > > > > > > > i'm the one and only. > > > > > > > > and i ain't no trip. > > > > > > > > that's a trap. > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > yes, do it! > > no choice about that! > > > Marc " i " can " do " nothing. nothing " does " " me " . or " something " or " other " like 'THAT'. of course nothing is " like " 'THAT'. 'THAT' IS nothing. Naturally! ..b b.b. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for evidence > > of > > > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact formula: > > ei*pi > > > > + 1 > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > > > > > formula " God's > > > > > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman in " Mathematics > > and > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not > > stop to > > > > > > inquire > > > > > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the mystic, > > the > > > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) > > unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus > > one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each branch of > > the > > > > > > math > > > > > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said > > about > > > > the > > > > > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely > > paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know what > > it > > > > > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we know it > > > > must be > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in > > fewer " words " > > > > than > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a world > > of > > > > > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious > > spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all up / > > > > leaving > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then > > > > imaginary > > > > > > God > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of anybody > > > > > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're telling me! > > > > > > > > > > i'm the one and only. > > > > > > > > > > and i ain't no trip. > > > > > > > > > > that's a trap. > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > yes, do it! > > > > no choice about that! > > > > > > Marc > > > " i " can " do " nothing. > > nothing " does " " me " . > > or " something " or " other " like 'THAT'. > > of course nothing is " like " 'THAT'. > > 'THAT' IS nothing. > > Naturally! > > .b b.b. > THAT dosn't do " bbb " " bbb " is a self made invention THAT has Nothing to do with such invention " bbb " THAT is Real " bbb " isn't real Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for > evidence > > > of > > > > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact > formula: > > > ei*pi > > > > > + 1 > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > > > > > > formula " God's > > > > > > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman > in " Mathematics > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not > > > stop to > > > > > > > inquire > > > > > > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the > mystic, > > > the > > > > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707-1783) > > > unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of > mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus > > > one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each > branch of > > > the > > > > > > > math > > > > > > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said > > > about > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely > > > paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know > what > > > it > > > > > > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we > know it > > > > > must be > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in > > > fewer " words " > > > > > than > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a > world > > > of > > > > > > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious > > > spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all > up / > > > > > leaving > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then > > > > > imaginary > > > > > > > God > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is > proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > > > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of > anybody > > > > > > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're telling me! > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm the one and only. > > > > > > > > > > > > and i ain't no trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > that's a trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, do it! > > > > > > no choice about that! > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > " i " can " do " nothing. > > > > nothing " does " " me " . > > > > or " something " or " other " like 'THAT'. > > > > of course nothing is " like " 'THAT'. > > > > 'THAT' IS nothing. > > > > Naturally! > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > THAT dosn't do " bbb " > > " bbb " is a self made invention > > THAT has Nothing to do with such invention " bbb " > > THAT is Real > > " bbb " isn't real > > > Marc which is the " self " that " self-made " .b b.b.? ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for > > evidence > > > > of > > > > > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact > > formula: > > > > ei*pi > > > > > > + 1 > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling this > > > > > > > > formula " God's > > > > > > > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman > > in " Mathematics > > > > and > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and not > > > > stop to > > > > > > > > inquire > > > > > > > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the > > mystic, > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707- 1783) > > > > unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of > > mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of minus > > > > one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each > > branch of > > > > the > > > > > > > > math > > > > > > > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce said > > > > about > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely > > > > paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't know > > what > > > > it > > > > > > > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we > > know it > > > > > > must be > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in > > > > fewer " words " > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a > > world > > > > of > > > > > > > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the religious > > > > spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving all > > up / > > > > > > leaving > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and nothing....then > > > > > > imaginary > > > > > > > > God > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is > > proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > > > > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of > > anybody > > > > > > > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're telling me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm the one and only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and i ain't no trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's a trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, do it! > > > > > > > > no choice about that! > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > " i " can " do " nothing. > > > > > > nothing " does " " me " . > > > > > > or " something " or " other " like 'THAT'. > > > > > > of course nothing is " like " 'THAT'. > > > > > > 'THAT' IS nothing. > > > > > > Naturally! > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > THAT dosn't do " bbb " > > > > " bbb " is a self made invention > > > > THAT has Nothing to do with such invention " bbb " > > > > THAT is Real > > > > " bbb " isn't real > > > > > > Marc > > > which is the " self " that " self-made " .b b.b.? > > .b b.b. > this self of body, mind and intellect....called " bbb " Marc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " <dennis_travis33 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for > > > evidence > > > > > of > > > > > > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact > > > formula: > > > > > ei*pi > > > > > > > + 1 > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling > this > > > > > > > > > formula " God's > > > > > > > > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman > > > in " Mathematics > > > > > and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and > not > > > > > stop to > > > > > > > > > inquire > > > > > > > > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the > > > mystic, > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707- > 1783) > > > > > unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of > > > mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of > minus > > > > > one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each > > > branch of > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > math > > > > > > > > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce > said > > > > > about > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely > > > > > paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't > know > > > what > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we > > > know it > > > > > > > must be > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in > > > > > fewer " words " > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a > > > world > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the > religious > > > > > spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving > all > > > up / > > > > > > > leaving > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and > nothing....then > > > > > > > imaginary > > > > > > > > > God > > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is > > > proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " > trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > > > > > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of > > > anybody > > > > > > > > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're telling me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm the one and only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and i ain't no trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's a trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, do it! > > > > > > > > > > no choice about that! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > " i " can " do " nothing. > > > > > > > > nothing " does " " me " . > > > > > > > > or " something " or " other " like 'THAT'. > > > > > > > > of course nothing is " like " 'THAT'. > > > > > > > > 'THAT' IS nothing. > > > > > > > > Naturally! > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT dosn't do " bbb " > > > > > > " bbb " is a self made invention > > > > > > THAT has Nothing to do with such invention " bbb " > > > > > > THAT is Real > > > > > > " bbb " isn't real > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > which is the " self " that " self-made " .b b.b.? > > > > .b b.b. > > > > this self of body, mind and intellect....called " bbb " > > > Marc that's nothing. that's no-self. that's THAT. ..b b.b. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 18, 2009 Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " <Roberibus111 wrote: > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " dennis_travis33 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <dennis_travis33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > > > > Nisargadatta , " roberibus111 " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <Roberibus111@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps the most unusual argument for > > > > evidence > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > God.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has come from mathematics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some have suggested that the compact > > > > formula: > > > > > > ei*pi > > > > > > > > + 1 > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > > > > > > > > 0.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is surely proof of a Creator calling > > this > > > > > > > > > > formula " God's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > formula. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Edward Kasner and James Newman > > > > in " Mathematics > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Imagination " : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " We can only reproduce the equation and > > not > > > > > > stop to > > > > > > > > > > inquire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > into its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implications. It appeals equally to the > > > > mystic, > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > scientists, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematician. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hmm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this formula of Leonhard Euler (1707- > > 1783) > > > > > > unites.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the five most important symbols of > > > > mathematics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1, 0, pi, e and i (the square root of > > minus > > > > > > one). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this union was regarded as mystic union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it contains representatives from each > > > > branch of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > math > > > > > > > > > > > > tree: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > arithmetic is represented by 0 and 1.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > algebra by the symbol i.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > geometry by pi.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and analysis by the transcendental e. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harvard mathematician Benjamin Pierce > > said > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > formula: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " That is surely true, it is absolutely > > > > > > paradoxical.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we cannot understand it, and we don't > > know > > > > what > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > means.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but we have proved it, and therefore we > > > > know it > > > > > > > > must be > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > truth. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mathematics certainly says more in > > > > > > fewer " words " > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Eugene Smith wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " The formula, ei*pi + 1 = 0 expressed a > > > > world > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > thought.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of truth, of poetry, and of the > > religious > > > > > > spirit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `God eternally geometrizes.' " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb became religious?.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one of this dual freaks who are giving > > all > > > > up / > > > > > > > > leaving > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > up to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imaginary God....out there?..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you claim to be nobody and > > nothing....then > > > > > > > > imaginary > > > > > > > > > > God > > > > > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > must > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be nobody and nothing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > uh marc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's exactly and only what the formula is > > > > proving. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't fall into the toombaru trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb, don't fall already into the " bbb " > > trap.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that statement is falling into the mark " trip " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for you, " bbb " ....there is only the " bbb " trip.... > > > > > > > > > > > > " bbb " can never have any ideas about the trip of > > > > anybody > > > > > > > > > > > > else........* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *even not about his beloved " God " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is that a trap trip? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as i told you.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there is only the one and only bbb trip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you're telling me! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i'm the one and only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and i ain't no trip. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's a trap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bbb is the only trip and trap of the imaginary life of bbb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > imagine that! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes, do it! > > > > > > > > > > > > no choice about that! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " i " can " do " nothing. > > > > > > > > > > nothing " does " " me " . > > > > > > > > > > or " something " or " other " like 'THAT'. > > > > > > > > > > of course nothing is " like " 'THAT'. > > > > > > > > > > 'THAT' IS nothing. > > > > > > > > > > Naturally! > > > > > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THAT dosn't do " bbb " > > > > > > > > " bbb " is a self made invention > > > > > > > > THAT has Nothing to do with such invention " bbb " > > > > > > > > THAT is Real > > > > > > > > " bbb " isn't real > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > > > > which is the " self " that " self-made " .b b.b.? > > > > > > .b b.b. > > > > > > > this self of body, mind and intellect....called " bbb " > > > > > > Marc > > > that's nothing. > > that's no-self. > > that's THAT. > > .b b.b. > but then why is this (your) " THAT " traped by a marc, a tree, a breakfast, a bird, a cloud, a mathematical formula, a God, etc....etc....? 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